The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 591: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CXXVII

Episode Date: August 28, 2024

Spencer Neuharth hosts MeatEater Trivia with Clay Newcomb, Mark Kenyon, Jordan Budd, Brent Reaves, Maggie Hudlow, KC Smith, Tyler Jones, Tony Peterson, and Jordan Sillars. Connect with MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, and Youtube Clips Subscribe to our new MeatEater Podcast Network on YouTube Shop Trivia MerchSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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without cell phone service as a special offer. You can get a free three months to try out OnX if you visit onxmaps.com slash meat. Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your host, Spencer Newharth, and today we're joined by Clay Newcomb, Mark Kenyon, Tony Peterson, Brent Reeves, Jordan Sillers, Jordan Budd, KC Smith, Maggie Hudlow, and Tyler Jones. This is a 10-round quiz show with questions from Meat Eaters for Verticals, which are hunting fishing conservation and cooking

and there is a prize meat eater will donate 500 to the conservation organization of the winners choosing and for the stat of the week this week we're looking at the head-to-head stance of the bear grease boys clay and brent how do you guys think you do uh individually like who do you think does better at meat-eater trivia? I think Clay's already won one or two. I'd say he does. I've been on more than Brent. Okay.

How about some other areas? Who has better street smarts, you think? Brent. Okay, Brent. Who has better book smarts? Me. Oh, okay. And you have better meat-eater smarts, I guess. Brent, gonna you're gonna protest anything he just said or no i'm not i just want to know if my average from the last game

came into this well that's not factored into my stats here okay dang clay averages 4.25 correct answers per game while brent averages 3.5 correct answers per game. Clay's strongest category is conservation, where he gets 55% of questions correct. And Brent's strongest category is also conservation, where he gets 43% of questions correct. Clay's weakest category is cooking, where he gets 29% of questions correct. While Brent's weakest category is also cooking, where he gets 29% of questions correct, while Brent's weakest category is also cooking, where he gets 29% of questions correct. So just like the Element Boys,

it seems like you two are on the same wavelength. Wouldn't that be a pretty common trend with all of us, though, if we're just being honest? What's that? Strong on conservation, weak on cooking. Yeah. I mean, a lot of us. Not always, but for you two specifically,

you have the same average in the cooking Category which is your your weakest do you what what kind of demographics do you pull off people like us? Sharing the same books Brent finishes a book and then he hands it to clay and clay finishes a book and then he hands it Back to Brent now. They've read the same same book how does that relate back to just the general stats of trivia overall that people usually do better on conservation and worse on cooking uh conservation is our biggest category and i think for a lot of folks that's their first or best category um cooking since it has tends to have more general knowledge if you're're not as strong in the other three categories seems like the people would do better in cooking do you look at that as a host as an opportunity to increase

the difficulty of the conservation questions I think it depends on the rest of the game right that I have created if I feel like that game needs a harder question conservation is an easy one for me to pick up the slack this is me we that I have created if I feel like that game needs a harder question. Conservation is an easy one for me to pick up the slack in. We need more cornbread questions. Yeah, brother. This brings up an important question, though. How often are you self-evaluating as a host and by what criteria? Often.

I'll listen to the episodes. It's like watching game film. I want to know what works, what doesn't. I want to create a good product. So I think I'm doing a lot of self-assessment. My most recent assessment. I said, hey, Phil, we're about to record again. Can you slightly change the wording to this question to hopefully give folks a better chance? Tie it around the neck. Yeah, brother. Now, here's our infrequently asked questions segment. If you have a trivia-related question for our crew, send it to trivia at themedEater.com with the subject line IFAQ. Eric Jennings

says, do you have backup questions ready on the chance that discussion ends up spoiling a question that was planned? I don't really have backup questions ready. I have a document I could go get them from, but I do have backup tiebreaker questions ready. It has still

never happened in 130-something episodes. We've never had a tie in a tiebreaker, so I'm looking forward to the day. So never two tiebreaker questions? We've never done it before. It's gonna happen. Those are always real specific answers with numbers and stuff. They are specific.

We've had folks get them on the nose. We talked about it last time. Tyler has done it. Now, instead of the communism victory, we just add an extra $100 donation at the end of the game. Cool. I like it. Spencer, I want to go on record. You catch so much grief in here every week.

You do a wonderful job on this show. Thank you, Brent. That way, if it comes down to between me and him on a judgment call, I said it first. Yep. You didn't have to include the second half of your statement, but I appreciate it either way. But I do mean that. Okay, thank you. Now we have some housekeeping to get to.

In a recent episode of Trivia, we had a question about the Rainbow Family Gathering that takes place every year on Forest Service land. In the flavor text, I mentioned that despite the event being less than a month away, no location for the 2024 gathering had been selected yet. But I did say that I found on Facebook rumors that it would be in Washington or California, with a dark horse candidate being Oklahoma. Well, the Rainbow Family Gathering met, as they do every July, and settled on doing it in the Plumas National Forest in Northern California. But this year was very different. Rainbow goers had to relocate due to the Forest Service kicking them out of their first spot. The agency closed down a large area where the festival started to form, saying it was protecting livestock, wildlife, and archaeological sites.

They also cited fire concerns as a reason for shutting it down. The gathering then moved 25 miles away, which was still on Forest Service land. And at the new location, there were 1,000 law enforcement officers patrolling the area. It was held there with only about 1,800 rainbow attendees at its peak. This is less than half of what they get on a normal year. Now, many California groups are celebrating the suppressed numbers, saying the Forest Service finally did something that they should have done a long time ago. A Lassen County supervisor complimented the law enforcement who ushered them off the original site, saying, quote, I believe this is the first rainbow gathering event to be shut down,

and you all had a hand in that. There's also a belief that this response sets a precedent for future gatherings, and that was the first step in taking control of this massive public land event. So 2024 Rainbow Family Gathering might be the one that changed it all. Wow. Brant, we just about had it down in your neck of the woods, though. Some folks thought it was going to be Oklahoma. Man, I ran into, we talked about this on a recent Bear Grease render.

Or a couple of them. Rainbow folks came up on a Bear Grease. Oh. Yep, and we, some friends of mine, or a friend of mine and I ran into a big bunch of them when we were turkey hunting up in the Mark Twain National Forest in Missouri. When was this? This would have been back like 1997. Okay, how'd that encounter go?

It was wild. It was, my buddy killed a turkey the day before. We cleaned it. We thought we had cleaned it and threw it in a dumpster and the next day we were coming throughout through the refuse in the dumpster yeah and we come out the next day and there was a guy that had pulled it out and was cooking it there over a fire on a stick i mean it was bones uh-huh and we stopped and gave him a sandwich oh okay that's the rest of that story and he told you

that he was there for a rainbow gather although he was just part of the rainbow family he was no there was a gathering there they were everywhere turkeys was goblin we was smashing them he probably cooking that snood good stuff man I tell, he wore that bologna sandwich out pretty quick. You should have sent some of your friends. What was he doing to it? He didn't stand a chance. Like that old boy on an airplane. He ate that sandwich bad. Yeah, he did.

Yeah, he did. Now, the Shelby Index for today is a three, so our winner should get six correct answers. And with that, we're on to the game of trivia. Play the drop, Phil. Look, I need to know what i stand to win everything how's that just tend to win everything game on suckers question one the is conservation, and this is multiple choice. A 2014 study declared this large metro area has the worst urban sprawl in America. Is it San Francisco, Atlanta, Chicago, or Miami? A 2014 study declared this large metro area has the worst urban sprawl in America.

Your four choices. San Francisco, Atlanta, Chicago, Miami. Brent, I notice you're wearing what looks like a friendship bracelet. Do you have a Swifty in the family? Nope, but I've got a daughter that dances, and she made me this, and it says daddy on it. I don't ever take it off. Really? How long have you been wearing it for? Oh, let's see. What year is this? About three months.

Yeah. A 2014 study declared this large metro area as the worst urban sprawl in America. San Francisco, Atlanta, Chicago, Miami. Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Maggie saying Chicago. Jordan says Atlanta. Casey says Miami. Tyler says Atlanta. Tony is Atlanta. Think about half of you got that one right. Urban sprawl is defined as the rapid expansion of the footprint of cities that's often characterized by low density housing, Atlanta has the worst urban sprawl for cities over 1 million people, followed by Nashville, Charlotte, Memphis, Birmingham, and Houston.

The cities with the least urban sprawl that are the most densely populated are New York City, Milwaukee, Oakland, San Jose, and your other three choices for that question, which were San Francisco, Chicago, and Miami. Question two. The topic is hunting. Jackie Bushman is the founder of this company, which has a television show, magazine, and whitetail record book. Tony Peterson is confident.

Jackie Bushman is the founder of this company, which has a television show, magazine, and whitetail record book. Old Jackie Bushman, he's still going strong, too. Is he? Yeah, buddy. You consume his content, or do you know him personally? I don't know him. Okay.

Nope. Still going strong, though, according to Clay Newcomb. This is the most confident our players have looked in the last two episodes of trivia. Except for maybe Maggie and Jordan Sillars. Jackie Bushman is the founder of this company,

which has a television show, magazine, and whitetail record book. When I think of Jackie Bushman, I think of Milk River Whitetails Yeah Or the powder Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers

We have Maggie saying Outdoor life Jordan says Boone and Crockett We have Casey and Tyler And Tony And Brent and Clay and Jordan and Mark saying Buckmasters. They got it. The correct answer is Buckmasters.

The Buckmasters Whitetail Trophy records differ from Boone and Crockett or Pope and Young by not using deductions or inside spread. This is known as the Russell Thornberry method, which they claim is the fairest way to score an animal. They say they don't use inside spread when ranking a deer because that's a measurement of air, not antler. What do you think of that, Whitetail Boys? You like losing the inside spread as measuring a deer? I like it i think uh i've always thought water displacement would be probably the most accurate way it would be the most boring

though sure sure because it's just like dunk it right yeah but i think the buck master scoring system is is pretty legit i do think the spread though though, he's right, it's measuring error. The spread does tell you a lot about how big a buck looks. That's right. So I think it's relevant. We now have Giannis Puteus. Giannis. This has never happened before. I'm just going to sit right behind Jordan like this.

Don't be whispering. Now, we're only two questions in, Gianni. I won't say anything to her at all, I promise. Gianni, if you'd like, I could read you the first two questions. You we're only two questions in, Yanni. I won't say anything to her at all, I promise. Yanni, if you'd like, I could read you the first two questions. You could get right in on this game of trivia. No, no, no. Nope, nope. I'm here only to heckle. Okay.

Give that man a mic. Then you best heckle. So Clay, you like not measuring inside spread? No, no, I'm saying I think there's a rational case to be made that it is measuring air, it's not actually measuring antler size, but I think when you're talking about overall aesthetics of an

animal, they should count the spread, so I'm a boon crocket man. You know, it's a valid case, because I very much am not a fan of deductions. So, you know, like, if you're gonna take something away, do take away the spread. You know, I likeuctions. So, you know, like, if you're going to take something away, do take away the spread.

I like that. But then, you know, because you still... It's not like you're adding to the score. The numbers are bigger. So, Boone and Crockett, you take deductions. The trouble with scoring systems is that when you have a historic record that goes back 100 years,

you can't change your system. Can't change stuff, right. I think Boone and Crockett today would change their system if it wouldn't invalidate all their records. What would they do different? I mean, look at the NFL kickoff. I'm not speaking for the club at all.

But what do you think they would do different? I think deductions would be something today that they would look at different. And I think Buckmasters came along and picked up the general vibe and momentum and way of thinking and built a system that was pretty good. Is that system widely used? See, I mean, straight up a confession. I've been a fan of Buckmasters my whole life. I didn't know they had their own scoring system. To be clear, they use the inside spread when getting a score. They call it the composite score. When they rank their whitetails though, they eliminate the inside score as part of that final number. So do people pay a membership

to Buckmasters to have deer on their list? I mean, the Buckmasters scoring system is... I mean, I know guys that score Buckmasters officially in Arkansas. They also recognize high fence deer. They have some stipulations about it, but that's another difference. Do they talk about that personally? Like publicly, I mean?

What's that? Like when somebody's like, oh, but that's another difference. Did they talk about that personally? Like, publicly, I mean? What's that? That they would... Like, when somebody's like, oh, I shot a 154. Buckmasters. Buckmasters. Yeah. Did they say that? And your dad, a Boone and Crockett scorer?

Just pull that out. I am. You are. Clay Newcomb. You are. Okay, okay. So, from a scorer... Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Yeah, unofficially. Hmm, interesting. Yeah. Question three. The from a scorer. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, unofficially. Interesting. Question three. The topic is public lands, and this next great question is via Garth Hoggan. 36 sections of land make up one blank. 36 sections of land make up one blank. Hey, Spencer, sometimes when we get a lag, I could tell you how the rainbow people came up in Bear Grylls.

Please do. I think we're in one right now. Okay, so we did Bear Grylls with a guy named Russ Arthur who was a retired Forest Service special agent. He was one of the first guys that back in the 80s started working undercover for the Forest Service. Okay. And it just came up. It wasn't a major part of the story, but they had the Rainbow people coming to North Carolina, Western North Carolina.

We're going to supposedly have 10 000 people coming russ arthur and his crew set up a roadblock as a dui check from the one road that went and came in and out of there uh-huh that'll deter some rainbow gathering from happening and the the pot the episode is called runt over okay because that's the way Russ said it. Okay. Russ was working the roadblock. This is like in 19, when was it? 1992 or something. 91. 91.

And a car pulls up to the roadblock, and when it gets right up to him, he's out going to check their driver's license and stuff, and the car gasses it and runs him over. Whoa. It leads a huge high-speed chase through the Smoky Mountains, which ends in a three-day manhunt. When they finally catch the guys. This is very against the Rainbow Family Gathering Corps.

They weren't rainbow people. Oh, okay. They were locals that had just gone up to view the rainbow people but the rainbow people were part of the story uh-huh and then and then the guy goes to prison and the reason he went to the reason they tried to kill russ arthur was because russ arthur had written him a squirrel hunting ticket two years before that's a good podcast, Clay. It was a great podcast. It was really good. Again, we're on question three. 36 sections of land make up one blank. Is everybody ready?

Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Maggie saying unit. Jordan says unit. Casey says hectare. Tyler says survey. Casey says Hector. Tyler says survey. Tony, Hectacre. Brent, Hectacre. Clay, township.

Jordan, township. Mark, township. We have a correct answer in the room. It's township with Marcus, Jordan, and Clay. Way to go, guys. A section is a square piece of land that is one square mile or 640

acres. 36 sections together make up one township, which is just over 23,000 acres. Townships have broad powers and enforcement and often help maintain cemeteries, roads, ditches, and bridges. Clay, Jordan, do you guys deal with some local townships every now and then? Are you like part of the township board or anything like that?

No. Okay. So you ever, are you a good egg or a bad egg for the township? Do they, like, yeah, the buds. They're good. Yeah. I feel like positive. They maintain their roads. Yeah. They like, yeah, the buds. They're good. Yeah. I feel like positive. They maintain their roads. Yeah, they don't complain about ditches.

They're not stealing water. Yeah, I don't think we do any of that. Okay. To my knowledge. Clay Newcomb, are you a good member of the township? Nobody in Arkansas would be thinking about townships. I have no idea. The reason I figured Jordan would get it, though,

I feel like in the Great Plains, people think about townships more. Like, yeah, I wouldn't know what township I was in. Is that right? Well, it's like a – I knew it because it's like a measurement thing or like a map. You know what I mean? Like mapping your, like, Section 15 township, whatever, whatever. Clay, you're not even – you have no idea what township you're part of. Never even thought about it.

So are you like a county guy? Like you guys are all about what county you live in? Yeah, county. County. What about you, Marcus? Do you know your township? I do. The only reason why I know it is because I have to say it every time I turn on my recycling.

Oh. Does it have a name or just a number? I just said the name. It's got a name. It's like sweet grass. And then I get a discount on my recycling. Huh. Yeah. So wait, do you not have counties? Wegrass. And then I get a discount on my recycling. Huh. Yeah.

So wait, do you not have counties? We do. If you have townships? You have both. Yeah. Township's like another little form of government inside of all of this. Interesting. Hey folks, exciting news for those who live or hunt in Canada. And boy, my goodness do we hear from the Canadians whenever

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This French female name is defined as, quote, to slice food into thin strips about the size of matchsticks. This French female name is defined as to slice food into thin strips about the size of matchsticks. Yannis, do you know this one? Yes. Did you know the last one, Gianni? Yes. Okay, Gianni's up to two.

How about this side of the table? Tony, do you have this one? That puts him tied for second place. I think so. Okay, Tony might have it. How about Maggie over here? Maggie. I'm trying to spell.

Okay. Me too, girl. This French female is defined as to slice food into thin strips about the size of matchsticks. Is everybody ready? Marcus, are you going to come up with a French name? I'm trying to improve my average on cooking. I'm telling you. Let's go.

Do you guys have it? I think so. Yeah, 95%. Marcus, you ready? Yeah. Go ahead. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay, we're going to let it roll.

Wait, wait, I was thinking about the wrong thing. Okay, go ahead, Maggie. If you can come up with a different answer. If Maggie was beating us all, we'd be like, no. She might be. I haven't gotten one right. I need this one. Maggie, it's so surprising.

Maggie is the smartest person in this room. That is not true, but thank you, Clay. I appreciate it. I'm ready now. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Maggie saying Julian. Jordan says Jaquette, Caleb, and Tyler, and Tony, and Brent, and Clay saying Julian. Jordan without an answer. Mark saying Julian.

They got it. The correct answer is Julian. That's spelled J-U-L-I-E-N-N-E. Close. For some reason, I was thinking of bernois, and that is not, I couldn't spell it, and that's not the right thing. Julianne is often done with vegetables such as carrots, celery, bell peppers, radishes, and potatoes. This technique is commonly used for salads and garnishes for a recipe that calls for julienned vegetables. Check out Wade Trunk's recipe on TheMeatEater.com

called Turkey Bon Meal. Really quick, I lost count at Brent. Brent, did you get that? You got that? Yes. Okay, and then Clay got it. And Mark got it. And Yanni got it.

You know something, Wild? It's kind of crazy how many of my answers I know from watching the tv show friends julian was in the pilot episode monica was uh i do not i would not have taken you for a friend i always surprise you i love you of course you watch his friends what'd you say who's your favorite character oh chandler for sure yeah that's you know hard to argue but i got a soft spot in my heart for r, you know, being a dinosaur guy. I feel like last time you played, we had a question about Unagi.

Can we talk about dinosaurs? That's a French thing, too. That you got right, and you're like, I knew that because I watch Friends. Yeah. Okay, that's how Casey studies. Yeah. He watches Friends. Question five, the topic is woodsmanship.

Johnny Inkslinger was the lesser known companion of this woodsman who supposedly created the Grand Canyon, Puget Sound, and Great Lakes. Created them. Johnny Inkslinger was the lesser known companion of this woodsman who supposedly created the Grand Canyon, Puget Sound, and Great Lakes. Come on, bro. Brent is confident and Jordan Sillers is confident. No, I'm not. Giannis, how you doing? I have a good guess.

Okay, Gianni has a good guess. He says, Johnny Inkslinger was the lesser known companion of this woodsman who supposedly created the Grand Canyon, Puget Sound, and Great Lakes. Who is also apparently lesser known. Clay hasn't picked up his whiteboard yet. I'm just guessing, bro. Clay, how you feeling about this one? Brent is trying to use osmosis and transfer the answer from his brain. I'm trying to figure out if it's a trick question like some of the other ones.

Okay. Like, is the guy just a woodsman or is he also something really important? Johnny Inkson was the lesser known companion of this woodsman who supposedly created the Grand Canyon, Puget Sound, and Great Lakes.

Tony Peterson doing some erasing and rewriting down there. Tony, do you have this one right? I highly doubt it. Okay. Oh, hold on. Give me. Give you what, Clay?

Give me some of that juju, Brent. It's right there. God. Who does like their answer? Anybody? The Element Boys? Okay. They feel okay about what they got going on.

You ready, Clay? I'm ready. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Maggie without an answer. Jordan says Paul Bunyan. Oh, it's a full-court question. Casey says Paul Bunyan. Dadgummit.

Tyler says John Bunyan. Did that say that? Come on. Bunyan, right? Tyler says John Bunion. Tony says Paul Bunion. Brent says Paul Bunion. Clay says Audubon.

Jordan without an answer. Mark says Paul Bunion. They got it. The correct answer is Paul Bunion. Man, all I could think of wasn't his he had a big blue ox and that's all that was going in my brain and i like couldn't get that thought paul bunyan was a folk hero whose tales were traded among lumberjacks across north america in the early 20th century babe the blue ox and johnny inkslinger were his companions who helped him create places such as the Black Hills, Grand Tetons, Mississippi River, and all of Minnesota's 10,000 lakes.

Inkslinger was a brainiac who invented bookkeeping and worked as the camp clerk. According to legend, he was so efficient that he wouldn't cross his T's or dot his I's, which saved him nine barrels of ink. Paul Bunyan. You guys don of ink. Paul Bunyan. You guys don't get much Paul Bunyan lore down in the South, huh? Well, he got it right. We get more John Bunyan lore up here. Johnny.

Phil, we're halfway through the game of trivia. Give us a scoreboard update. Let's see here. Okay. Maggie, you've got one point. I'm sorry. I'm sorry you had to see that. Jordan, both Jordans are tied up with two points. Then we've got KC with three. And wow, Tyler, Mark, Clay, Brent, and Tony are all tied up with four points. This is a better game of trivia than last time. All right. Question six. The topic is fishing.

This is our listener question of the week, which was won by Cody Gratz for sending this great question. Cody is going to get a board game signed by the crew. If you want a chance to win our listener question of the week, then send your question to trivia at themeadeater.com. Energy.gov defines this eight-letter word as, quote, the channel that carries water away from a dam. The topic is fishing. Energy.gov defines this eight-letter word as the channel that carries water away from a dam. I have an eight a letter word.

Six. Giannis was your good guess, Paul Bunyan, last time. Okay. Hey, that's like a Minnesota thing. Right, Tony? Paul Bunyan, Minnesota thing? Well, he created all 10,000 lakes that are there. That's what I thought.

That's big time. Yeah. He's got a whole statue in Minnesota, doesn't he? Yep, up in Brainerd. Gianni, you should have been here last game. The winner had five correct answers. The door was open for someone to swoop in with your trivia skill level and get the victory.

Again, we're on question six. Energy.gov defines this eight-letter word as the channels that carries water away from a dam. The Element boys look confident again. Brenton, you have this one, right? I have an answer. Okay. Does it have eight letters? Let me recount.

Oh, man, there are two. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. Eight-letter word for the channel that carries water away from a dam. Clay, how we doing over there? Not good. I don't know.

I don't think I have it. Marcus? Yeah, I'm blanking right now. How about you, Yanni? You have a guess for this one. I got an eight-letter word in my head. Okay. I had the same nine-letter word in Mark had written down. Yeah.

If that was... That's the one. Is everybody ready? Man. What do you have? Okay, I got the other one. One of us would be right. Go ahead and reveal your answers.

We have Maggie saying waterway jordan without an answer kc says tail race tyler says spillway tony says overflow brent overflow clay let out jordan waterway mark without an Tailwater is an answer, but we have a correct answer. That was my first thought. It's tailrace. KC got that one right. Wow. Tailraces are a hot spot for fish and fishermen.

These waters attract many species since they're typically home to ample food and structure, as well as a barrier that prevents passage upstream. For tips on fishing a tailrace, read our article on TheMeatEater.com called How to Fish a Tailwater. What? See? Thank you. Tailwater is how everyone knows it.

But would a tailwater be an encompassing thing and tailrace be within tailwater? You're going to have to argue with Energy.gov. But no angler would ever be like, oh yeah, I'm going to go fish the South Fork because it's a tail race. I feel like tail water is more like western specific and I feel like tail race is maybe other parts.

Any waterway coming out of a dam, especially cold water coming out of there, it's great for fish. You're going to have to argue with energy.gov. Do we know anyone there that I can send a letter to? You would know them. Question seven.

The topic is woodsmanship. This mountain range is home to Sequoia National Park, Yosemite National Park, and Tahoe National Forest. Oh, no. This mountain range is home to Sequoia National Park, Yosemite National Park, and Tahoe National Forest. Mark is very confident. He's the only one who is confident. I'm surprised.

Okay. Mark thinks... See, it makes me nervous when I think I know something and no one else does. Mark thinks a few of you should know this one. Yeah, I'm surprised. This mountain range is home to Sequoia National Park, Yosemite National Park,

and Tahoe National Forest. Clay Newcomb picking up his whiteboard. Tony is looking at Mark and he says, saying, what is it? What is it? You know that thing we do on the podcast every once in a while?

Do that again. Maggie changing an answer. If they can touch toes, they can communicate. They probably can. We're pretty tall. Probably could. Tony Peterson struggling. I literally only know one mountain range,

and I'm positive it's not right. You only know one mountain range. I don't believe that. I guarantee. Well, I'm not going to. This mountain range is home to Sequoia National Park, Yosemite National Park, and Tahoe National Forest. Is everybody ready? Probably that's wrong.

Yeah. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Maggie saying Sacramento. Jordan says Sierra Nevadas. Caleb says Cascades. Tyler, Sierra Nevadas. Caleb says Cascades. Tyler, Sierra Nevadas. Tony, Rocky Mountains. Brent, Rocky Mountains.

Clay, Sierra Nevada. Jordan, without an answer. Marcus, Sierra Nevada. Sierra Nevada is right. The room did pretty well. The Sierra Nevadas follow much of the California-Nevada border, making it one of the longest mountain ranges in North America. It's home to many threatened species such as the redwood tree, Yosemite toads, wolverines, and California spotted owl.

Question eight. The topic is conservation. This next great question is an audio question. Phil is going to play you one minute of what I've declared to be the greatest conservation song of all time. You need to tell me either the name of the song or the name of the artist.

Take it away, Phil. Please be what I think it is. Either or or both. Either or. Either tell me the name of the song or tell me the name of the artist. Just write down one of them. Tony and Brent. Very confident.

Did you boys go with artist or song? I went with artist. Artist. I'll say it. I'll say it. You don't recognize it. I mean, I know the song. Not your style of music jordan i remember uh the counting crows cover in this song

i'm not gonna give you credit for the cover that the Counting Crows did. Tyler, was it the song that you thought it was going to be? No. Okay. You were hoping for Bird Hunters, weren't you? No. I was thinking Seminole Wind by John Anderson. You did the conservation song?

Yeah, dude. The Everglades, bro. He's worried about the disappearing. I guess that's true. We did that question on the podcast before. It's about draining the Everglades. Yeah, dude. The Everglades, bro. We had that. Yeah, I guess that's true. We did that question on the podcast before. It's about draining the Everglades. Yeah, you're right. Or the Hill Country by Randy Rogers.

Yeah. Again, you need to tell me either the name of the song or the name of the artist. And that is what I have declared to be the greatest conservation song of all time. So on this podcast now, if you're taking notes at home, I've made a declaration of the greatest hunting song of all time. So on this podcast now, if you're taking notes at home, I've made a declaration of the greatest hunting song of all time, the worst hunting song of all time, and the greatest conservation song of all time. Did Hank Jr.'s song about killing the elk with a hand grenade make that list?

No, but we have that question in the board game. We haven't done it on the podcast before, though. Is everybody ready? Brent is now mocking Clay. Is everybody ready? Sure. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Maggie saying Joni Mitchell.

Jordan, without an answer. Casey says, Jewel. Tyler says, Pave Paradise. Tony, Joni Mitchell. Brent, Joni Mitchell. Clay, Carole King. Jordan, without an answer. Mark, Paving Paradise.

The artist is Joni Mitchell and the song is big yellow taxi so i think we had three people get that one right did you know the song yeah joni mitchell released that song on her 1970 platinum album ladies of the canyon she wrote it while in hawaii saying she was witnessing the blight of paradise as parking lots were taking over a beautiful place. A notable lyric you heard is her asking farmers to stop using DDT, a pesticide that was made illegal two years after the song's release. That chemical was famous for causing bald eagles to lay eggs with thin shells, which was a major factor in their population crash. The song has since been covered by the neighborhood,

Amy Grant, and as Clay said, counting crows. I should get something for that. Phil, we have two questions left. Give us a scoreboard update. Ooh, here we go. Golly. All right. I mean, it's tight.

It's tight up in here. Maggie's got two points. Jordan Sillars has three. Casey has... Oh, Jordan Butt also has two. Sorry. Casey has four. And then Tyler, Tony, Brent, Clay, and Mark Kenyon all have five points

and are tied for the lead. All right. Two questions. Same smart. Left. Echo chamber in here. Johnny, would have you gotten that last one right? No, sir.

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Welcome to the OnX club, y'all. Question nine, the topic is gear. What does the U in UTV stand for? What does the U in UTV stand for?

Yanni is giggling. Yanni, would you get this one right? Yes. Okay. But it's a tricky one. Oh, all right. I think it's a tricky one. How about you, Brent?

You got this one right. First one to have an answer down. No. Okay. But he did know Joni Mitchell. I think I got it right, but... Mm-hmm. What does the U in UTV stand for?

Marcus, do you have this one? I don't know. Okay. If it's tricky, then maybe not. I've never really thought about it, but... Uh-uh. I got two. I've only got one.

That I'm wrestling with. I want to ask Yanni a question from last game, which he was not here for. Yanni, we had a cooking question that was, how many gizzards does a male pheasant have? Gizzards? How many gizzards? One. That's right. That's why I'm glad you weren't in here.

We thoroughly stumped the room. Well, that's a trick question if I've ever heard one. Does everybody have an answer for what the U in UTV stands for? Seems like we may have some separation in the pack after this one. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Maggie saying utility. Jordan says ultimate. KC says ultimate.

KC says universal. Tyler, utilitarian. Tony, ultimate. Brent, utility. Clay, utility. Jordan, utility. Mark, utility. The correct answer is utility. room oh very well what do you think about uh tyler having utilitarian i think it's awesome yeah that's the right it's for utilitarian type of

people why was that a trick you said it's tricky you almost threw me off with that Could be ultimate It could be, what do we have over here It could be utilitarian It could be universal Ultra With an ATV Like all terrain vehicle makes a lot of sense Utility terrain vehicle That just

Sounded quite right So I almost like convinced myself not to go that route. So utilitarian's trade vehicle. The trade of utilitarian. UTV can stand for utility vehicle, utility terrain vehicle, or utility task vehicle. This is extra confusing when you consider that there are three main types of UTVs, which are sport UTV, utility UTV, or sport utility UTV.

So you get a lot of redundancies in there. There's a utility UTV? There is a utility UTV. Utility, utility. Mm-hmm. That's right. Terrain vehicle. Phil, we have one question left.

Who's left in the game? Oh. Well, Tyler and Tony are still in the game but Brent clay and mark have pulled ahead and are tied up with six points now here's a correct answer review for our listeners at home so far one was Atlanta two Buckmasters three Town Julian. Five, Paul Bunyan. Six, Tail Race. Seven, Sierra Nevadas. Eight, Joni Mitchell or Big Yellow Taxi.

And nine, Utility. Here's question 10. The topic is hunting. Who invented the 280 AI cartridge? Holy. Who invented the 280 AI cartridge? And I will respect Jeopardy

rules that last name would be good enough. What is the 280? Who invented the 280 AI cartridge? We have Jordan Sillers who looks very confident. Maggie and

Jordan Budd joining him with an answer. Is this a bone for Sillars? It's not a bone. It's a hunting question. Do you have this one right, Yanni? This is a bone for Jordan Sillars. It's an engineering question. You think you'd have this one right, Yanni? Yes. Okay.

Yanni, very confident back there. Who invented the 280 AI cartridge? It's not Carbon Express, is it? That's what I know. Yeah. Oh, boy. Element boys, do you guys have a good answer here, you think? Yeah.

I don't know. Now remind me who's left in the game here, Phil. Who's tied in first? Me, Mark, and Brent. Tyler and Tony have five points and can jump ahead if they get this right, but Brent, Clay, and Mark all have six points. Mark does

not feel good about his answer. Clay, how about you? Do you have this one right? No. I'd say 20% chance. Okay. How about you, Brent Reeves? Do you have this one right? I'm not putting the guy that I'm tracking. I can't think of his name. Okay. I'm thinking the next closest thing that I can get to it.

Is everybody ready? Do you have it, Tony? Okay. I can see a picture of this one. But Jordan's probably got it right. I can see a picture. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Maggie saying Winchester.

Jordan says Pio. Ackley, Casey says Ackley Tyler says Nosler Tony says Ruger Brent says Carmichael Clay Winchester Otto Ackley or P.O. Ackley. P.O. Ackley was a wildcatter who created the.280 Ackley Improved about 75 years ago. He made the cartridge by taking a.280 Remington and giving it a steep shoulder and straight body, the.280 AI has become an increasingly popular choice among Western hunters since the round was standardized by Nosler in 2007. Let's go, D.

We're going to overtime between who, Phil? Brent, Clay, and Mark. Play the drop, Phil. Tiebreaker. If you ain't first, you're last. I think just cut it at, if you ain't first, you're last, and think just cut it at if you ain't first, you're last, and then go into other stuff that's funny. I never liked it.

Hey, Phil, f*** off, man. The tiebreaking topic is hunting, and this will be a numerical question. Whoever is closest between Brent, Clay, and Mark will be declared the winner. How many states have a mule deer entry in the Boone and Crockett record book? The closest to the correct answer will be declared the winner. Everyone in the room should come up with an answer, though, because if somebody gets it right on the nose, we will add an extra $100 donation to the end of the game. How many states have a mule deer entry in the Boone and Crockett record book?

U.S. states. U.S. states. We're not doing Mexican states. Or confusion. I see a lot of counting happening on hands. I'm surprised at the lack of whiteboard use for this question. How many states have a mule deer entry in the Boone and Crockett record book? Tony,

the first one to come up with an answer. How do you feel about your answer? Not great. I thought it was just us three in this. Well, everyone is going to come up with an answer because if somebody who's not left in the game gets it right on the nose, Meat Eater will add an extra $100 donation to the end of the game.

Time to relax, Clay. Again, it's Brent, Clay, and Mark competing for the victory. Maggie, how do you feel about your answer? You were all so quick. It's a lucky number. Okay. Oh, wow. All right.

A lucky number or your lucky number? My lucky number. Okay. We're going. All right. A lucky number or your lucky number? My lucky number. Okay. We're going to learn what Maggie's lucky number is. Brent has put down his whiteboard. Mark. Wait. Put down his whiteboard.

On the dot, we also, we get to contribute or is it once someone wins? If anyone in the room gets it right on the nose, including you, KC, who's one of the three people left in the game, we'll add an extra $100 donation to the end of the game. Oh, Clay is revisiting his whiteboard. After he does this, we're going to turn him over. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Maggie saying 9.

Jordan, 14. Casey, 16. Tyler, 16. Tony, 11. Jordan, 13. And our three players left in the game, we have Brent saying 9. Clay saying 14. Mark saying 14.

The correct answer is 18, meaning we're going to a second. Play the drop again, Phil. Spencer, I didn't have a custom drop for this. Tony, don't answer on this one. If you ain't first, you're last. And then, like, going to other stuff is funny. Is this the first time this has happened? Hey, Phil, fuck off, man.

First time it's ever happened in a 135-episode history of EDR. Can we get the background on the last question, though? Yeah, now, those 18 states are Colorado, Idaho, Utah, Wyoming, New Mexico, Arizona, Oregon, Montana, Nevada, Washington, Kansas, California, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Texas, Oklahoma, and Iowa. Colorado has the most entries at 1,203, and Iowa has the least entries at one. But they've got a Boone and Crockett that came out. They have a Boone and Crockett mule that was killed. Do we know the year on that? I don't know the year. My guess, it would have to be like the extreme northwestern part of the state.

The Missouri River has a few mule deer that I've seen personally. So someone must have killed a big one at some point in Iowa's history. Wild. Double overtime. Wow. First time it's ever happened. It's so funny. You just mentioned this too. We just talked about it. That's history. Wild. Double overtime. Wow. First time it's ever happened. It's so funny. You just mentioned this, too. We just talked about it.

That's right. And this will be the between. I think this is rigged. Clay and Mark. I'm glad we get to share this, Clay. Yeah, yeah. Me too, Mark. It's like a Super Bowl, Clay.

The double overtime topic is fishing. Ooh, Mark and I's strength. Actually, he's a good fly fisherman. Okay. My greatest weakness. How much money did the winner of the 2024 Bassmaster Classic get? Total earnings for that particular person. For getting first place.

That's right. So that's one tournament. One tournament for the 2024 Bassmaster Classic. What did you get for winning that tournament? Again, everyone's going to... Is that a take home? No. It's just like the grand prize.

It's the closest between Mark and I. The closest between you and Mark. That's right. Everyone's going to come up with an answer again, though, because if somebody puts it right on the nose, we're going to add an extra $100 donation to the end of the game. How much money did the winner of the 2024 Bassmaster Classic get? Mark, do you know?

I do not know. It's just guess. Tony? Do you know? I have a guess, but I'm just guess. Tony? Do you know? I have a guess, but I'm not sure. Double overtime. What a thrill. Wow.

Just a couple episodes ago, you were making kind of a joke saying that, like, Phil's going to have the greatest sound drop of all time when this finally happens. And I was like, yeah, yeah, sure, whatever. You can't make me do that. And now I feel guilty. I'm sorry. I wish I had something great to play for you. It's okay.

Is everybody ready? Everyone has an answer for what the winner of the 2024 Bassmaster Classic got for first place. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Maggie saying $1 million. Jordan says $1.2 million. KC, $600,000. Tyler, $250,000. Tony Peterson, half a million dollars.

Brent, $1.5 million. Jordan, $67,000. And our two players left in the game. We have Clay Newcomb saying $250,000 mark Kenyon saying 1 million dollars the correct answer Is Our double overtime Good job, Clay. Let's go, dude. Only $50,000 off. Good job, Clay. That was a strong guess.

The prize money was at its lowest in 1971 when the winner got $10,000. Then it hit its peak in 2006 when it was raised to half a million dollars. Then it was lowered to $300,000 in 2014 where it's remained ever since. Clay, you get to choose where the $500 grand prize from Meat Eater goes. What's it going to be? I know right where it's remained ever since. Clay, you get to choose where the $500 grand prize from Meat Eater goes. What's it going to be? I know right where it's going to go. It's going to go to the Coloradans for Responsible Wildlife Management. Okay.

Dan Gates. So there's a bill right now that's going to go to ballot in November in Colorado to ban mountain lion hunting, bobcat hunting, and lynx hunting, which there's no lynx hunting to begin with. And it's a pretty, it's a very, very serious thing for all of big game hunting in North America. And they're up against some pretty big odds. But yeah, those are good guys. Coloradans for responsible wildlife management.

They're in overtime. They're in double overtime, Clay. That donation is going to hit a little different when it comes through. Yep. Wow. That's a, that's a powerful $500. Yes. They just got.

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