The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 595: MeatEater Radio Live! The Record Chinook, Micro Chubbies, and Hooking Your Own Dog (09/05/24)

Episode Date: September 6, 2024

Welcome to our brand new MeatEater Radio Live! podcast. Join Steve Rinella and the rest of the crew as they go LIVE from MeatEater HQ every Thursday at 11am MT! They’ll have segments, call-in guests, and real-time interaction with the audience. You can watch the stream on the MeatEater Podcast Network YouTube channel, or catch the audio version of the show on Fridays. Today's episode is hosted by Brent Reaves, Brody Henderson, and Seth Morris. Guests: The New Montana state record holder for Chinook, Jim Fauth, and retired game warden Chris Powell.  Connect with The MeatEater Podcast Network MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YoutubeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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without cell phone service as a special offer. You can get a free three months to try out OnX if you visit onxmaps.com slash meat. Smell us now, lady. Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia. Meat Eater Podcast. Welcome to Meat Eater Radio Live. It's 11 a.m. Mountain Time on September the 5th, and we're live from Meat Eater HQ in Bozeman, Montana.

I'm your host, Brent Reeves, and joined today by Brody Henderson and Seth Morris. On today's show, we'll talk to Jim Fouth about the state record salmon he caught from a pontoon. Now, what that fish was doing on a pontoon, I don't know. But then we're going to do a Meat Eater menu where we fish was doing on a pontoon, I don't know. But then we're going to do a meat eater menu where we discuss

what we've been cooking lately, followed by one minute of fishing at the meat eater pond with Tressa. And then we'll have a cheticate about hunting a spot that a guide showed you, following by an interview

from hound hunting for bears and retired game warden, Chris, excuse meen Chris Powell. And finally, we'll discuss our top three worst days of fishing all time. No such thing as a bad day of fishing. If there is such a thing. We'll have to dig for that one. All right.

Seth. Yes, sir. There's purportedly been an intruder in your office. Yes, there was. Tell us about the mouse. So last week I got into my office in the morning and I'm turning my computer on and whatnot. And I just happened to start looking around on my desk and notice a couple little mouse turds on my desk. You know what they say about rat pills, don't you?

No. They're sharp on both ends. These were sharp on both ends. So, yeah. don't you no what's that they're sharp on both ends these were sharp on both ends um so yeah um i don't know how he got in my office i don't know how he got in the office building period but um i recently set a trap line of a few of these in my office and uh i haven't caught him yet but we'll we'll see no no other sightings or reports of his whereabouts? I sent out a Slack message to everyone in the office saying keep an eye out for little mouse turds. But it only seems like I was the only one that had an issue in my office.

I'm not a fan of mice, rodents. The only kind of rodent I like is a beaver and a squirrel. What about rabbit? Are they rodents? I don't know if they're rodents. I don't know. I like is a beaver and a squirrel what about rabbit aren't they are they rodents i don't know if they're rodents i don't know i don't know but i like rabbits too yeah but we have a long history of i grew up on a chicken farm oh yeah you know and they're mice they're all they're all rats to me they're just big and little that's that's the way i look at them so i hate them all so i wish you luck on your journey on your trap thanks yeah hopefully we'll get them i don't know we'll see i have abated with some uh

crunchy peanut butter so i think that'll do the trick i'm glad you told me about it because you could you could catch me with crunchy peanut butter you got any any issues or any history brody nothing out of the ordinary, man. One time I had a pack rat in my shed. Have you ever seen, you know what those are? Yeah, yeah. And they got those kind of big, cute eyes. It's a little harder to kill those, but I did.

You suffered through it? Yeah, I suffered through it. Well, rats, I mean, they've got a place and somewhere else is where I need them to be. Yeah. Well, we should just point out, Brent, thank you so much for being here. Yeah. Really grateful to have you.

Oh, yeah. One of the reasons we called you in as an all-star pinch hitter was because we've got two of our usual correspondents, Dr. Randall and Spencer Newhart, are actually in the air right now flying to Ann Arbor, Michigan for the tailgate tour. Uh, but here's the thing. Here's how dedicated they are and how much they are so bummed to be here. Uh, we've got Dr.

Randall himself on the line from 34,000 feet. Let's see if we can bring him in here and see. Did he take his plane off the airplane mode? I don't know. Oh, there he is. Oh, we got a thumbs up from Randall. That's great.

Give us a thumbs up or a thumbs down if you like water and Biscoff cookies. I got a little delay. Thumbs up. Nice. Thanks for the update. You guys have a good time on the tailgate party.

Safe flight, doctor. Later, Randall. Nice. Thanks, Randall. See if they'll let you drive. Brent, you've also got a fan in the chat here. Let's see who it is. Oh, who's that guy?

Oh, it's Mr. Newcomb. Clay Newcomb. This guy right here is my brother. He goes by his middle name, which few people know is I cheat at turkey calling contest, Newcomb. Oh, wow. Those are strong words.

No, it's not fighting words. Those are fact words. Oh, okay. He's a good turkey caller, but it's not that I'm bitter or anything or that I still remember. It doesn't sound like it at all. No, not at all. Brody.

So, yeah, yeah. We're about to chat with the new Montana state record holder for Chinook salmon. Chinook are king salmon. They're the largest of the five species of pacific salmon salt water um but in some states they're also stocked in big bodies of fresh water and including fort peck reservoir here in montana and they get pretty big eating a bait fish that's uh cisco big bait fish so we're gonna get it get in touch with uh the new record holder. All right. Joan joining us on the line is Mr.

Jim Fouth, the man who caught the new Montana state record Chinook salmon from a pontoon boat, Mr. Jim, welcome to the show. Thank you. Good to be here. Tell us about, tell us about that day. You know, we just planned on going out and have a little fun with a couple friends of ours maybe catch a few salmon for the freezer and i've got a pontoon i

like it a lot of room to move around i guess now it's really not the ideal boat for salmon but you know it worked yes i guess so yeah i mean it seems pretty ideal to me you're out there you're comfortable you're catching great big fish. Absolutely. It was kind of a slow day because it was the only one we caught. I still have to go fill my freezer with other things, but, you know, it was a lot of fun. Tell us about that rod and reel setup you were using. Oh, yeah.

You know, actually, I dug that out. It's a genuine, if I don't get tangled up in the rafters here, it's a competition combo. My uncle Vern gave me that nearest I can figure about 15 years ago. I remember him showing up here. He was an avid fisherman and he showed up with two of them. He says they were on sale at Walmart. $29.95, I believe he said he said perfect so he bought me one you know that was the way he operated he was generous and loved fishing and he wanted to go fishing well we didn't get to do it that day because it was raining cats and dogs but i've used it a couple times on the pontoon just for salmon um i believe this august was the fourth time I'd ever been out on Fort Peck for salmon.

And by golly, it worked. Apparently so. Did you guys know that it was a record class fish when it came in the boat? You know, once we got it in the boat, I did have a digital scale with me and you know, they may or may not not be close and it said 33.9 which you know sounded pretty good but i was out there with my wife and these is that a couple and on the far side of the lake and we thought well let's just fish a little longer and see what we got you know how long had you been fishing when you caught that one you know uh about 12 30 i think we got on the water about nine so we've been out there maybe three hours is all maybe 9 30 we got on hadn't got a bite i'd seen a few go through and we were in about 150 160 feet of water and i had my downrigger set at 80.

and apparently that's where we stumbled upon this fish fish you know well that kind of fishing is foreign to me seth you do that uh i don't i don't do much trolling for for salmon on four pack i'd fish it for walleye and pike and smallmouth but um yeah i i've never actually done salmon fishing on four pack now we do it in al Alaska up at our cabins and stuff, fish for Kings and whatnot. But, um, yeah. What, how are you, so you were trolling for that fish? I was trolling. Yeah.

Um, and like I say, I've not done much down rigging at all. Uh, just kind of mimicked what other people showed me or told me. And I was just using my big motor, idled down as much as I could. So we were running about two and a half miles an hour. Okay. Were you running a spoon or a fly or what were you running? Actually, I guess the flasher is called a Scotty Dog maybe. Yeah.

I picked it up that morning. Good gosh. And pulling like a green and white squid behind it yep nice and you know i fished with a buddy out there a few years ago and we caught a few you know 10 to 15 pound and that's what we used then and so not knowing any better i just used the same thing so did you you had to get that thing weighed officially did you have to take it to a marina or So did you, you had to get that thing weighed officially. Did you have to take it to a marina or how'd you handle that part of it? Well, yeah, you know, we, we kept fishing for a while and I, what they told me later, I should have gone right in, but we went to the Portback Marina

and it weighed 32.8 there, but their scale was not certified for this year so we went over to Lake Ridge and it weighed 32.8 there but it wasn't certified for either but fellow there man he loaded my cooler up with ice and so then the concern is is the longer it goes it's losing weight right like why we're is evaporating out of it yep and that's what i was told i probably lost one or two pounds oh really huh i i don't know i i i love fishing but i'm not an expert right so uh i think it was rob at lake bridge he got a hold of steve dalby out of glasgow who could officially weigh it and measure it and And he said, well, I'll meet you at Reynolds Market there in Glasgow. So we went in there and put it on

their meat market scale, but it unfortunately maxed out at 30 pounds. So that wasn't going to work. And he says, well, let's try the deli, which is on the other end of the store. So we packed the cooler down to the other end and no, maxed out at 30. So we took it out to my pickup, and I'm making a few phone calls trying to find a scale. And I thought, man, I might have to take this back to Malta. And then Steve come out. He says, we got that other scale working, and it was good for 60 pounds. And it was certified. So that's when he weighed it out at 32.62 and 38 inches long,

and the girth was 28, which is kind of a fat fish. Yeah. Did you, well, I guess, what did you end up doing? Because I wanted to cut that thing's stomach open to see what was inside of it, but you're probably getting it mounted or something, huh? I am. I actually, I called a local taxidermist he says i don't do fish the guy you want is rich white out of billings uh with northern anglers yeah and you look at

his website and he's got an award there says he's the 2024 world champion which was very fortunate and i got a hold of him and we caught it on friday and tuesday he had the fish nice so he's got it and now i have to wait so he's doing is he's doing a skin mount not like one of those those replica mounts yeah he says there's only six or seven replica mounts that we can use he says and there isn't any that quite match this fish yeah so he says i'm gonna have to skin it and build his own mount i guess uh q2 news down there they called me on it and then they interviewed him too and so i saw it there in his shop you know he hadn't unwrapped it but that's what he was talking about was skin and mountain it. What was the weight of the previous record?

Do you know? 3205. And what was yours again? 3262. Huh. Half a pound. Yeah, half a pound bigger. Yeah.

What was your biggest fish before this one, Mr. Jim? Oh, probably a northern. That was about 22 pounds. Did you know when you hooked it you you had something pretty special the way just from feeling it? You know, I knew that I had not ever hooked onto anything quite that heavy. I had no idea it was going to be a record. Not at all. I figured in the twenties someplace.

When you're fishing for those things, Jim, are you ever catching anything other than salmon? I think a few years ago I hooked a lake trout, but mostly just salmon. Cool. Well, congratulations. That's quite a fish. Got your name in the record book now. I guess so.

Somebody the other day said, well, i think everybody gets 15 minutes of fame and i think i'm down to the last few seconds you're gonna enjoy it you got 30 plus pounds of it thank you so much you betcha congratulations congrats jim thank you sir yeah thanks jim man looking at that fish that i get hungry i love love fish. We eat it a lot. I want to spend in this next segment, we're going to do the meat eater menu. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Give me a sec, Brent.

I was trying to get to the end of that video so we could see the fish. But it's time for the meat eater menu, you say, Brent? I'd say it is time. Oh, my goodness. For the meat eater menu. Meat tastes good. Pork chops taste good. Hey, sewer rat meat tastes like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know because I wouldn't eat the filthy motherf***er.

Mamma mia. I like pumpkin pie. Brody. Yeah. I see a lot of stuff on your Instagram, and we talk a lot. I hear you talking about the stuff that you cook. Yeah. What you've been whooping on.

You know, this time of year, every year, I make a big batch of smoked fish. a lot i hear you talking about the stuff that you cook yeah what you've been whooping on um you know this time of year every year i make a big batch of uh smoked fish and we were just at the fish shack recently and uh seth and i generally don't keep too many of them but my boys wouldn't stop keep uh keeping these pink salmon which are uh they're like lower on the quality scale of, of salmon. Like generally it goes like, if you're an eat salmon, it's like salt, you know, salt water caught out of the salt. Um, it goes King, sockeye, silver, pink, and chum. Um, it's not that they're bad. They're just not as good as the really good ones. Um, and my boys kept a lot of them. So I Smoked a bunch of them, you know do that every year

To use for hunting snacks like it's kind of like a nice jerky be kind of like a fish version of jerky. Yeah I Do it so it smoked out pretty dry so you can carry it in your backpack and it doesn't get all mushed up into nothing. Um, I go a little lighter on the salt than some people might go. Cause too much of that salt, I just start to get sick of it. But the recipe is actually in the meat eater outdoor cookbook for, for this type of smoked fish. Um, and me and Steve are going to be eating a bunch of this stuff next week on a loose

hunt in Alaska, just to break it up from the freeze dry. You know, something, something other than freeze dry. Vacuum, vacuum seal it, I guess. Yep. It's key to break up the freeze dry. Oh man. Yeah. That'll mess up your guts.

10 days of eating that stuff. Yeah. Oh, I bet. Um, so yeah, got a bunch of it. I was going to bring some in today, had it thawed out in the freezer and forgot it. Well, you can, what's your method of doing that? I dry brine it in a mixture of brown sugar and salt is the two main. You can put other spices in there if you want, but it's really like the sugar and the salt.

So you just pack those fillets in a mixture of brown sugar and salt let it sit for i like to overdo it because it'll get too salty but 10 12 hours so overnight out i mean in open air or you vacuum are you sealing that no no you just like i have a big tub that i lay i'll lay a layer of fillets, pack it with salt and sugar, lay another layer of fillets, pack it and just stack that up. Okay. And, uh, throw it in the fridge overnight. And when you, when you check that stuff in the morning, it's just liquid in there.

Like it's. Oh, it's sucking all the liquid. Yeah. It sucks all the swimming in that brine. Yeah. And that's when you know you're good to go. Cause you pick up those fillets and they're real firm and they're not quite as, as, uh. Can you taste the fish or is, are you mostly tasting what you dried?

Oh, you can taste it. If you go way too heavy on the salt, it's just going to taste like salt. So that's why I go a little lighter. And, uh, then I, you gotta, after that stuff sits in the brine, you gotta dry it off and then you gotta let it sit for a while. Usually I'll put a fan on it because you gotta develop what's called a pellicle, which is like kind of a sticky dry layer. Okay. And that's what grabs onto that smoke when you put it in the smoker.

Oh, I got you. So then you throw it in the smoker. I try not to do it very hot at all, like 150, 160. It's okay if it gets up to 180, 200, and you're going to start cooking it instead of smoking it, which is not what you want to do if you can avoid it. And to get it to where I like it pretty dry, like you saw in the picture, it's three or four hours usually. Okay. Some people like it a lot moister and two hours is plenty for that, but I, but I'm doing it for a specific purpose and I want it dry. So I go longer. If you take, well, I mean, what do you take just an arbitrary number of them? Or you could like try to do it by weight? Yeah, man. Um, yeah, I, I think I did probably, I don't know. I'm talking about when y'all take off, when you load your pack,

you trying to put three pounds in there? No, no. Like one or two fillets is plenty because, you know, you're just snacking on it. We'll be hunting for nine or ten days up in Alaska, so I'll probably take, I don't know, six or eight fillets up there. Okay. Yeah. Hey folks, exciting news for those who live or hunt in Canada.

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Seth, what you been working on? Anything? Oh, man. The one thing I struggle with because I always have a lot of fish in my freezer from Alaska is like trying to figure out and come up with new things to do with it um I've currently have a bunch of halibut in the freezer I'm always like trying to figure out what to do with other than frying it or whatnot so um the other day I took some fresh Parmesan and grated it real fine and just packed it on the top

of a filet, seasoned it up and stuff, put some garlic on there, salt, pepper, and then bake that in the oven. Not very long. It was a fairly small filet, but those smaller halibut filets are just so good. Oh yeah, they're soft and they're nice. And then to finish it off, I turned a broiler on and kind of crisped up that Parmesan on the top.

It was like a crusted Parmesan halibut fillet. You know, Clay brought some of that home from his. Oh, yeah. From that spring trip. Yeah, I tried it up there at his house, and it was really good. They don't got those things in Arkansas. No, not many. If they were, somebody got them all.

But yeah, man, that was really good. It was nothing like what I thought it would taste like. It's a fairly mild fish. You can kind of make it taste like anything. But yeah, just I have some, like I said, i have so much in the freezer and you just i just got to get creative every once in a while to yeah i can get up well yeah i'm happy to share it with folks so um but yeah made that and then some garden vegetables on the side lots of butter yeah it's nice that it's garden season man i love it. Which my garden didn't do great this year, which I don't know what happened.

I'm doing okay. I got to figure that out. But it's like, it's kind of a bummer. Like it's great to be this time of year where you have the garden stuff coming in, but you know that first frost is like. Oh, it's soon. It's going to crush your garden. Yeah. We've been cooking a lot of fish too.

I don't know. I sent Phil some pictures. Oh, yeah. I'm going to get those up there. And we'll get, see which one he's, I like to cook a lot of stuff. Oh, this right here. This right here is my daughter's favorite. That is flat belly catfish and grits.

That looks great. And some fried catfish that went in there with it. But that. Now, wait a minute. You said flat belly. I'm assuming you meant flathead belly. Yeah, belly meat off a flathead is what I meant to say. And we'll take that. And I got this recipe from a buddy of mine,

or this technique from a buddy of mine, Keith Brandon, and he and I went and his wife, we went and caught a bunch of fish down on the river, Sleen River. And we cut them things up like cubes and just put butter on a blackstone on a grill and just saute them on there with bacon and butter and then make grits. I mean, it's a pretty simple recipe, but it is so good. And we fried the bacon that we put on there. Now, this photograph right here is some flathead fillet and some bear steak,

tenderloin right there. A little serpent turf. Yeah, man. Exactly. A little Arkansas serpent turf. But now the slaw there, I've got to give credit where that is due. And that is Clay's secret recipe that's not a secret slaw, but it is absolutely fantastic. There's nothing like a good coleslaw, man.

Man, that stuff right there. I can eat buckets of that stuff. Especially with fish. I'm telling you, he killed it. It is very simple. It's coleslaw, coleslaw mix. I use the Duke's stuff from the salad dressing mix. And salt, pepper, some cut-up jalapenos, as much cilantro as you can gather to put in there, chopped up,

and some Tony Sasseri's Cajun Season over the top of it. And the first day you make it, it's good. And I asked Clay when I ate this at his house, I said, man, tell me what the recipe is. He said, man, you just got to let Jesus decide. You just throw stuff in there. He's just got a souped-up version and a normal coleslaw. It is absolutely good.

I got a question for you going back to the fried fish. What's your preferred coating? Cornmeal. Do you season the fish and then cornmeal in the fryer or is the seasoning with the cornmeal? I season the meal. Salt and pepper and cornmeal

is fine, but we have a little recipe that we use cornmeal, lemon pepper, and some different, like some Cajun seasoning here and there. Depending on if you want to have a little bite to it, if it wants to be spicy, how you gauge how much Cajun you put in there. So that flathead, that's like your go-to fish. That's what you're eating the most down there? That's number one on the catfish is the flathead. Now, my favorite is like bluegill brim.

Oh, really? Yeah. Brent, we've got a question from a Max. He's asking, what is your go-to squirrel recipe? He says he's got a few more weeks until New Jersey squirrel season, and he wants to be prepared with a good one. Oh, man, I'm going to tell you. The best way to do that, or the quickest way and the easiest

way is something that i grew up eating is we would skin the squirrels and ball them for 30 minutes or so and they're just on a slow rolling bowl and they're done once you do that then take them out cut them up quarter them up and then flour and then fry them in a skillet, in a cast iron skillet. And cooking them slow is key. And if you're, you know, gray squirrels are always what we're going to, you know, fry. And just about the fox squirrels, they're just about going to always go into some kind of dumplings or stew or something. You feel like there's that much difference in, like, how tender they are? Yeah, exactly. Really?

Oh, yeah. And especially a young gray squirrel, there is a much difference in like how tender they are yeah exactly really oh yeah and especially a young gray squirrel it's uh there is a way difference and we call them cat squirrels and i was talking to a fellow one day and he's like i i we've got gray squirrels i've never seen a cat squirrel and i had to remind that we have a different dictionary where i live yeah but there is an absolute tender uh tenderness difference between a fox squirrel and a gray squirrel. Especially them old fox squirrels, the big ones, you know. Yeah, they're pretty tough.

They're just tougher. Yeah, they're pretty tough. So when you're saying cooking them slow, do you mean like frying them on a lower temperature? Yeah, lower temperature. Because they're already done. They're done when you boil them. And what you're trying to do is just get the flour coating on the outside and whatever seasoning you put on there and just slowly let that get on there. Once that's done, they're pretty well done.

But you're boiling them ahead of time to get rid of some of that chew, right? Yeah. Just getting a little softer. Yeah. And then you put some sauce on them? Yep. Well, just straight up. Just straight up.

They're fried just like chicken. Nice. Just like a flour and whatever salt and pepper, anything that you want to put in there. They're fried just like chicken. Just like, you know, a flour and whatever, salt and pepper, anything that you want to put in there. Sounds good. It's good. Are you like Clay, you like to ruin all that meat with a shotgun when you shoot them or you head shoot them with a.22?

Well, I'm trying to shoot them with a, we usually had a sniper and a follow-up man. So we got somebody with a.22 and somebody with a shotgun. But hopefully, hopefully you just get a head shot. Yeah. Now you know, my family didn't eat them, but you know,

a lot of folks like squirrel brains, which you're not supposed to eat. Right. Never tried them. Yeah, me either. I'm not in any hurry either. No, me either. It's just something about that.

I don't have any more room for the brains in my head, so I'm not going to put a squirrel in there. I'm going to do a quick call to action here because I think it might be fun. Go ahead and send us pictures of your wild game meals that you made over the weekend. And maybe we'll feature them on the show. Corinne, what's the email address for the show again? I still don't know.

It's just radio at themeateater.com. Oh, that's easy to remember. Radio at themeateater.com. Take a picture, something you made. You don't have to give us the recipe, but maybe throw us just like a twist you put on it or something like that. I think we'll show it off on the show with your message.

Phil. Yes. Got any feedback going up there that we can talk about? We do. We've got one more question, then we've got to check in with some people outside. But Jacob is asking if you have any tips for processing big game when you live in a small apartment have a friend with a big house been there done that yeah bathtub bathtubs yeah just tarps on your living room floor i uh Or just get that thing like quartered out in the field.

And then, you know, you can do it on the kitchen table and have a cooler there. Yeah. Just working with smaller pieces and a smaller, you know, smaller living space. I lived in a spot up in Helena when I first moved to Montana where the only spot for one of our freezers was in our bathroom. And to sit on the toilet, you had to sit side-saddle

because your knees would hit the freezer. So I kind of learned how to... Sounds like a bathtub gin operation. Kind of learned how to cut stuff up in a small spot. Cool. Well, we've got one more question that is a good segue. Not really a question, it's a comment, but it'd be a good segue into our next segment.

Ryan's got a tip. This is probably a Spencer tip. Spencer might still be watching. He's got a tip for one-minute fishing. He'd love to see a running leaderboard of how long it takes someone to eventually catch the fish, even if they go over the one minute. That's a good idea. What was yours the other time?

I don't remember the exact time. It wasn't long because you had to come back and you caught the fish and didn't come in. So it was within a minute or so. We can probably time that out. Cool. Well, on that note. Here we go. We are going to

check in with Tressa who is going to do our one minute fishing episode. Tressa, who is going to do our one-minute fishing episode. Tressa, hook us up, girl. Oh, just sitting out here trying to shoo away the ducks. We had a ducks generator helicopter in the landscapers out here. That's okay. It's some kind of sketchy video quality.

We must be in some sort of cell phone black hole behind our office, but we are looking to improve. We're getting a new camera set up in the next few weeks. So one minute fishing will be crystal clear soon. But for now, we got to put up with this. So Tressa, you're a very experienced fly angler. What fly do you got on there? I do fly fish a lot. So I have two five weights right now.

Oh, you got two different rigs set up. That's smart. That is smart. I'm on the mountain cycling through the sea, so one of them, if there was risers, I had a purple haze size 16. I don't see any risers yet today. We just saw one. So now I'm going to try and use this little leech pattern, maybe size 10.

I'm not quite sure. So I might start with that since there's no risers. Tressa, can I just ask you to introduce yourself to our audience for a moment? She is a colleague of ours. What do you do here at MeatEater, Tressa? I'm the digital product developer. So I write code and design some pages, forms, and just kind of help out across the websites

with anything code-related, website design. And you also join us on trivia from time to time, yeah? Yes, definitely the worst. She's on speed dial for me anytime I have... No, no, you beat me, honey. Anytime I have technical questions, I call Tressa and she fixes it up. Tressa, did you do any sort of pre-fish before this,

or are you just doing what I did and going for it? Well, I came out on Monday for about an hour, but it was the hottest part of the day. It was close to 90, so it was a terrible time. But they were popping like crazy, like popcorn, and they were eating micro chubbies, the purple haze. You ever hear of a micro chubby there, Brent? No. You don't fish those in chubby there, Brent? No.

You don't fish those in Arkansas? No, no, I hadn't. I want to leave that whole conversation alone. But here's what's cool about it. If she catches a fish within the one-minute time limit, we'll make a $500 donation to a conservation group. And this week, Tressa says that Captains for Clean Water

is who she wants to donate it to. So, Tressa, get to fishing. Perfect. Good luck. Here we go. I'll hit a timer. I had some music prepared, but the file was too long, and I didn't have enough time to fix it before we went live today.

So, this will be a much more exciting segment in the weeks to come. But for now, I'm just going to hit start on a stopwatch. All right, Tressa, you ready? Here she goes. All right. As soon as I see you cast, I'm going to hit that button. Okay. Yeah, there we go.

Come on, Tressa no pressure looks like she's on that left end of the of the pond where the inflow comes in yeah we were out there yesterday and Corey caught a fish right over there yeah these fish are going to get harder and harder to

catch man because there's not like an unlimited number of them in there. They're getting worked over. So I feel like this is going to get more difficult as time goes on. She's at 30 seconds. Uh-oh. People should know that Tressa is a sure enough fly fisherman. Oh, yeah.

Tressa's out on the water more than anybody in this office, I would say. Her Instagram, she is a killer. Come on, Tressa. One minute is tall. Ten seconds, Tressa. Come on. Come on, Tressa. Seven, six, five, four, three, two, one.

Oh, time's up. Time is up. Time is up. Time is up. We're still drawing interest on that $500. Man, in the interest of donating some more money to conservation groups, I think we ought to lobby Spencer to get this changed to two minutes. Yeah, two minutes. Two-minute fishing.

Yeah. Let us know when you catch one. Cool. Thanks, Tressa. You can keep fishing just like Seth did last week. Hopefully we see you catch one. Cool. Thanks, Tressa. You can keep fishing just like Seth did last week. Hopefully we see you coming into the studio. Yeah, and if you get one, run on in here. Yeah, bring it in.

Thank you. Oh, man. I wouldn't stand a chance if I was a fish out there and she was fishing. We've got... What's happening here, fellas? Listener feedback. We already covered some listener feedback, but if you guys have any questions that you want to hit at the end of the show, please keep sending them in into the live chat there,

questions or comments, and we'll hit them up at the end. But for now, Brent, I think you have a guest who is not on the line yet, so we got to get him in here. Okay. We're rolling into Chattaket. Oh, it's Chattaket time. We're going to hit Chetiket. Yeah, I skipped a category.

I'm so sorry. It's almost like this is my third show. All right. Brent, you want to cue up Chetiket? Yeah, Chetiket. C-H-E-T-I-Q-U-E-T-T-E. That's what it means to me. C-H-E-T-I-Q-U-E-T-T-E.

Take care of C-H-E-T. Saka-tooey, saka-tooey, saka-tooey, saka-tooey, saka-tooey, sakachooey, sock-a-chooey, sock-a-chooey, sock-a-chooey, sock-a-chooey, sock-a-chooey, sock-a-chooey. Phil, is that you singing? Who's to say? That is excellent, Phil. That was phenomenal. Oh, absolutely. All right.

Chetiket is going to talk about hunting a spot shown to you by a guide. Is that correct? Hello, everybody. shown to you by a guide. Is that correct? Hello everybody, I'm Chester Floyd and I'm coming at you from a beautiful campfire in Wisconsin this evening. This week's Chetakit question comes to us from Blake. Blake writes, if I can see it on this piece of paper here, here's a personal dilemma I'm having. I went on a guided hunt some years back. The guide guided me on some public land, BLM and state in New Mexico. I had a really good hunt and I killed a smoker buck. Since then, the guide has raised his prices and I've been applying on my own for the tag here in New Mexico.

I've drawn this tag and I'm wondering if I go back to the area I killed the buck in. Is that screwed up, or should I feel guilty if I run into the guy? Oh, you should definitely feel guilty. Buddy, that spot burning. And it's wrong. I think you knew what you were doing All along That spot burning Ain't no other way

Why don't you call up the guide And see what he has to say Whoa, Chester, that's phenomenal. Well done. Call up the guide and see what he has to say. Whoa, Chester, that's phenomenal. Well done. All right, so spot burning is when someone shows you a spot, and then you go and hunt that area, and you do not notify that person that you're going to be in there.

That is a no-no. However, Blake, I don't want you to eat your tag that you put in and spent money on so maybe this unit in new mexico is large and you can go hunt not where you killed the buck last time but maybe on the other side of the unit look for a similar area topography and hopefully you can still get in to a good hunt wise words that was good advice from chester yeah i don't think this one requires a lot of debate no i had some experience with that guiding duck hunters on public land back when it was legal in arkansas and taking folks in there or i mean it's really to me it's really no different than taking your buddies somewhere to a place you found and then you go back and and then they're in there

i mean he could have if he knew at some point in the future he was thinking about hunting that same place again he could have asked the guide then yeah you're probably gonna get an answer like well i make a living here you know um it is public land so it's not like he doesn't have the right to go there. It's just like a courtesy thing. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say like he, if he really wanted to push the issue,

like he could call the guide and be like, Hey man, I just want to run this past you. Are you hunting in there this year? If you're not hunting in there this year, like, is this something you're comfortable with? That kind of thing.

Just, just talk to the guy. Don't be sneaky about it. Yeah. Don't sneak. I had, I have a acquaintance that, um, guide guides down in Florida and he had a client out with him and they're fishing kind of some back country Everglades stuff. Um, and figured out that that guy was like, uh, on the sneak marking spots and got a hold of that phone and threw it in the water.

Like those guys work hard to find their spots, you know. Yeah. And that's, they're making a living out there. So, yeah. And then some folks might say, you know, well, I'm paying him for the opportunity. Well, you're paying him for the opportunity to be there with him. Right. During that time.

Right. Yeah. That's, that's pretty cut and dried. But that's good stuff there from Chester always. All right. The next fellow joining is a friend of mine. His name is Chris Powell, and he's a retired game warden from the state of Indiana. I'm going to cut you off here, Brent.

He's not in the stream yet. So maybe we skip ahead, go ahead and hit our top threes next. I mean, we'll try to come back to Chris. Sounds good. Chris, if you're out there waiting, we'll be coming back for you. All right. The top threes on the last segment, I think what Spencer was talking about, you ranked the top three states that you'd like to own some

hunting property in. Well, this week we're going to do the top three worst days of fishing you ever had. A lot of fishing stuff this week. Yeah. Lots of fishing stuff. Seth, let's start with you. What's you got, give me three worst or whatever you got. Yeah.

So mine aren't exactly days of fishing that were bad i got two incidents while i was fishing that were bad and one trip that was just all around not a great trip um the trip we we one time did for the meat eater television show we went to devil's lake for an ice fishing trip okay and it was a disaster just no fish well there was some fish there wasn't a. And it was a disaster. Just no fish. Well, there was some fish. There wasn't a lot, but it was 50 below zero. I have some notes here of all the stuff that went wrong. It's 50 below zero. We broke an axle on the trailer.

We broke two side-by-sides. Oh! Oh! Oh! We got breaking news! Tressa's in the room! Don't worry. I don't know where to show it. Tressa's got a fish. You can see it.

Little brook trout. Going back. Nice work, Tressa. I told you fish didn't stand a chance. Wait till PETA sees that one. Oh, so we broke two side by sides um we broke a snow bear which is like a a track machine that goes out on the ice you can fish like from inside of it there's like holes in the bottom of the floor it's all foreign um let's see one uh oh our like trucks every day

one start um one of our guests that was on that show got their truck stuck, and this nice random guy just hooked up to her truck to pull her out. And then in the meantime, him doing that, he ended up blowing the turbo out of his truck. Oh. The good Samaritan. The fishing was overall not great, and everyone got COVID. Oh, my gosh. So was like a disaster what was the

uh chester's fault what did we call that yeah chester's folly yeah chet i don't want to throw chet under the bus he's a great fisherman but there's a video but there's a video out there it's on youtube chester's folly but chet had a lot to do with putting that trip together which yeah if we had a little bit better weather, things would have went way better. Nothing, though, the weather wasn't forecasted to be like that, was it? Well, it was, yeah. And we went anyway. Okay.

But we learned a lot. I'm not sure I'm putting all that on Chester. So, yeah, that was a disaster of a fishing trip. Any others that you can bring to mind? I got, so I was fishing with Chester one time and we pushed a approaching thunderstorm a little

too close and we're both fishing and at the same exact time we both got electrocuted through our fishing rods. Oh. Like the. On the lake.

It wasn't like, it wasn't a lightning strike, but just like the electricity in the air. It's a very unnerving feeling. Like one time I had that rod buzz in my hand and just. Yep. It's not a good feeling. No. Yeah. Like literally we were both holding the rod at the same time, both got electrocuted and

it wasn't like just a little shock either. It was like, whoa, like literally we were both holding the rod at the same time, both got electrocuted, and it wasn't like just a little shock either. It was like, whoa, like dropped the rods. Holy cow. Yeah, we tucked tail and got out of there. And then the third incident that was bad while fishing was, I think Phil's got a video of it up here. Oh, yeah, I can bring that in. This summer when I was in Alaska, I was fishing, and I caught a Pacific cod and brought it into the boat and kind of wasn't paying attention. And my dog kind of got after it and dog ended up getting hooked with a halibut jig.

Oh, look at that peacock. Yikes. My buddy Casey here just happened to be filming when it happened. I think his expression pretty well explained it all. Yeah. Little Wiley was not happy. That hook went through the scruff of her neck, went in and came out, and ended up having to bend the barb, and I popped it back out.

I tried cutting the hook, but those halibut hooks are just so big and heavy. But she's all right. She's fine, yep. Yep, she took it like a champ. There you go. Hey, folks, exciting news for those who live or hunt in Canada. And boy, my goodness, do we hear from the Canadians whenever we do a raffle or a sweepstakes.

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Um, a long time ago, back, uh, back in my guiding days, I was, uh, guiding on the Colorado river during salmon fly hatch and floating down through this Canyon and came around a corner and there's an upside down drift boat in the water in front of me. Um, there was a little boy trapped under that boat but if you want to hear the rest of the story you got to listen to mediator campfire stories volume one um

spoiler it has a happy ending good um the second one was my bachelor party uh here we go yeah statute of limitations run out on this shit man Man, it's like, unfortunately, like none of that stuff went on. A big group of my buddies and me, we drove a few hours. I was living in Colorado. We drove a few hours out to the desert for a weekend of camping and fishing for smallmouth bass and pike on the Yampa River. Like very remote stretch of the Yampa river in Northwestern Colorado. Um, it was mid September. So the river is like in prime shape, low, clear water was cooling off.

Fishing was probably going to be very good. We got, we get there, we get camp set up. The forecast was like awesome for the next couple of days. Half hour after we get camp set up, the temperature drops like 20 degrees and it's just starts the heavens cut loops. And like, we watched the river go from like clear to muddy and into flood stage and like, like instantly. And this wasn't forecasted.

Wasn't forecasted at all. And that deluge just like kept up all night long. And I slept in a puddle in a tent. We got up and left in the morning without ever making a cast. Oh my gosh. The awesome bachelor party. I'll never forget it. Did you guys at least drink a beer? We did, but it was just so like.

It was kind of sad. It was, yeah. drink a beer we did but it was just so like you couldn't say it was yeah you're like huddled around this like sputtering campfire which eventually it was horrible yeah sounds we're just like let's get this over with um the uh definitely the worst day i've ever had uh was i that's probably 15 ish years ago uh Uh, a group of friends, some couples, we, we got together and went to La Paz, which is in Baja, Baja Peninsula, just for like a vacation. And we were going to do some fishing there. Um, and a couple nights in, into the trip, we went out to eat like very fancy high-end restaurant and everyone

had oysters at that, like for an appetizer at that dinner. And I was the one who got the bad one. Oh, no. And we had a trips. We had a fish guided fishing trip scheduled for the next morning, picking us up at five in the morning. And like a couple hours after we got home, like I w I was asleep, woke up and instantly like was sicker than I've ever been

in my life. Like, like I, like when you hear people say they felt like they're going to die, like I felt like I was going to die. Um, and that went on all night um but the guides show up at five in the morning i'm like i'm not missing this trip um and it's about it's a little over an hour to get to this place called los muertos which means bay of the dead which is very appropriate were you going to stop yeah like almost crapped my pants in the van on the way there we get in the boat and i got a fever i'm puking i'm like weak i spent most of the trip curled up in the fetal pants in the van on the way there. We get in the boat and I got a fever. I'm puking. I'm like weak.

I spent most of the trip curled up in the fetal position in the bottom of the boat, but like rallied later in the day. And, uh, I caught a big rooster fish on a fly rod, which was kind of the goal, the whole goal for me of the trip. Okay. I didn't even care. Like I just wanted. So what? Yeah. It was just like, I did. It was just like, I was still so sick trip okay i didn't even care like i just saw it yeah it's just like i did

it's just like i was still so sick i just didn't care so that was the worst oh yeah well you know we talked earlier i i said you know it's hard for me to come up with three the worst days of fishing because it's but now that definitely qualifies what you got there, but it wasn't the fishing. It was the oysters that got you. It's just damn Mexican oysters. I've got two. One of them I talked about not too long ago. My brother and I have been doing some netting on the Arkansas River. We both got commercial licenses, and we've been doing some catfish netting out there.

It's too hot to do it right now. We're scared we'll lose fish and um from staying in staying in the net with the water temperature up so high so we're not doing that right now but back right before it got hot we were we had our nets out and we go and check them and every time we were running these nets with the water conditions the way they were that day we were just smashing them and we were catching 100 pounds of fish 150 pounds of fish uh every time we went and then we go out there and we pull up our net the first net it's got fish in it no bait we go to the second net pull it up it's

got fish and no bait we go to the third one we pick it up and there's no fish and no bait in there so we just got to do a little figure in there somebody's helping us somebody's helping us fish so we have uh we've laid a plan to catch them and as soon as the uh the weather gets a little cooled off we're gonna maybe get some video or pictures of these folks running my nets but i mean all you gotta do is just come ask i give them some fish right then you gotta steal them but fortunately they left my net they didn't take it so now as as a man of the law is it what's the penalty for doing you know i i don't know might be a question for your friend we're about to talk to yeah it could be very well could be but uh that was not a that wasn't a good

day of fishing because it's a lot of work man anybody tell you the easiest thing about being a commercial fisherman is telling somebody you are one because everything else is a lot of work but another another time comes to mind there really wasn't a bad day fishing. It was just kind of an unusual set of circumstances. My brother and I were fishing, were trout fishing up on the Little Red River, and we had been camped up there, and we wanted to go to a place that we'd caught fish the day before. When we got there, there was an older man and an older woman, and they were already set up there fishing.

So we were just kind of waiting them out, fishing up the river from them and waiting for them to finally get through. And they're just pulling fish after fish out of this hole into the boat. But they're turning them back out. They've caught way over their limit, but they're releasing them. They're not keeping any of them. And unfortunately, or fortunately, however you want to look at it, I hooked myself, and I put a little treble hook through my thumb. And at this point, we floated down the river,

and we're probably, I don't know, 15 yards from them. And they're looking over their shoulder. They know what we're waiting, what we're waiting on 15 yards from them. And they're looking over their shoulder. They know what we're waiting, what we're waiting on to do and trying to get in that spot. And I told my brother, I said, oh, man, I got a hook in my hand. Well, they turned around and looked and he said, how bad is it? And I said, it's really bad, but it wasn't. It was just under the skin.

So I told him, I said, get your pocket knife and cut it out. And they both put their rods down, and're they're looking back at us watching and he walks up there and he doesn't he knows what i'm doing because he looks at and he looks at me like you idiot you can pull that out but he took his pocket knife out where they could see it and he makes a little cut like they're like ah i said let's fish we go back to fishing and i hear him say bertha let's go they put the rods in the boat and left and we got where they want to get them in there oh yeah we caught yeah yeah we caught some what were you fishing for trout rainbows nice that's for a fly fish i was doing the evil

spin casting back then oh i still do that we're putting them in the boat though that's good but that's that's two that's that that's two that come to mind. It's tough having a bad day on the water fishing. Exactly. We've got Chris on the line, Brent, whenever you want to bring him in. Oh, nice. Retired game warden. Great friend.

He comes from the state of Indiana. His home of Colonel Sanders, Michael Jackson, and Chris Powell. And Chris Powell is joining us now. Chris, are you there? I'm here. What you got there, man? Man, that is a sorry dog right there. I'm telling you. Chris, I want to talk to you. I want to talk to you about, uh, tell us, tell the folks what you retired from and then tell us what the main reason that we're calling it a day. Yeah, I was, I worked 28 years as an Indiana conservation officer and game warden for most of you. Some people out there think I'm still an undercover man.

I got that feeling myself. I wish I was. The only part that I'm not getting is the paycheck. Those guys got a big pay raise here this past year, and, man, I wish that money was still hitting my bank account. Tell me about, Chris, tell me about the National Houndsman Alliance that you're working on. Yeah, you know, it's kind of in the wake of all the attacks that are coming on on the national level, especially in Colorado right now.

Houndsmen always seem like they're about 10. I say this, the hunting community is usually about 10 years behind the curve on current issues and technology and different things. You can add another 10 for the hound hunting community. We needed to get something like this started for a long time. And with everything going down in Colorado right now, there were a group of guys, a group of houndsmen, men and women, that came together and said, man, it's time to pull the trigger on this and get something rolling. And we're trying to put together an organization that's going to be representative from the West Coast all the way up to Maine and all the way down to Florida and all the way to the Southwest

and houndsmen in between. So nothing's off the table. If you like turning a dog loose and chasing it, then there's going to be a spot for you in this organization. Outstanding. And you're doing this with a couple other folks, am I right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, we've got a whole – right now we're in steering committee phase, trying to put together bylaws and make it a legitimate operation. That's one of the biggest issues facing Colorado or was facing Colorado houndsmen is the fact that they needed to retool

their whole houndsman organization to get everything up and running and legal. And we find that all across the country. There's a lot of, there's a lot of clubs and things like that, but having the creds and the documentation, the legal paperwork to actually be able to be effective. There just aren't a lot of them out there. So there's a few, a few good ones and we've got the membership and the leadership from those organizations on board from state levels

that are gonna that are gonna jump in and and give us a hand oh outstanding now how long have you guys been working on this project uh i wrote a proposal up about five years ago and submitted it to another organization that uh didn't pick it up and run with it. But we actually probably kicked off about a month ago to really put some legs on her, put wheels on the bus, so to speak. Do you have any place where people can contact you for more information or how to support it or be a part of this? Yeah, you can find us on Facebook right now and Instagram under the National Houndsman Alliance. And we answer questions there. We're trying to get things

set up right now with, I mean, you got to do stuff legal, Brent, you know this. And so we don't want to take people's money and things like that until we've got everything set up and have the attorneys pay okay so we can follow but we can follow along and then find out when we'll be able to do that you bet okay you bet chris i got a question for you those those dogs behind you there what what are you hunting with those uh that dog behind I, I've got the trashiest dogs east of the Mississippi river. They'll run about anything. The only thing, uh, I don't hunt with them. I don't hunt. I do. Well, let's talk about things I do hunt. I hunt, I hunt coons with, I couldn't hunt with them. Uh, bear hunt, lion hunt, bobcats, things like that. Cool. The dogs that I've got out in New Mexico right now,

I've got a couple of dogs out there that are hog dogs as well. And I'll use them for that, for hog hunting. But it's tough, man. They don't know what they're getting turned loose on whenever I, whenever they take a ride in the truck. That's cool. You got a, you got a hunt coming up pretty soon, don you yeah we'll be headed out to new mexico i've been i've missed the early season in new mexico uh due to some family issues i had to stick stick around here close to the house

and but man i'm telling you september 20th they're gonna have to like take the wheels off the truck to keep me here so i'm headed west to new mexico on september 20th they're gonna have to like take the wheels off the truck to keep me here so i'm headed west to new mexico on september 20th and that opener starts september 25th that's for bears or yeah bear okay who you when are you leaving headed out there i'm gonna i'm gonna head out of here september 20th the 20th I gotta hit northern New Mexico go to the ranch, pick up my dogs shorty Gorm was using my dogs out there

to guide bear hunters in the early season and man they killed some brutes out there we're talking old mature bears the kind of bears that need to be taken off the landscape no teeth they were they were awesome bear quickly give me give me two good reasons why you want to hunt bears with hounds

uh the first reason is is because it's fun i mean it really is fun when you take a hound and you know everybody talks about it being easy even some people in the hunting community thinks it's not fair chase but when you consider the work that goes in to developing a hound and that could start three generations back by you know a breeding that you made and then you raise those pups up generation after generation and see them come about. I mean, that's really rewarding. The other thing is, is it is hunting with hounds is really the original fair chase method for hunting with hunting. When we have a bear tree or a lion tree, uh, and even to some extent, you know, the old bandito, like you like to call them, you can be pretty selective on whether you're taking a boar or a sow, um, sow, a tom lion or a female lion, just

because you've got that opportunity. You're under the tree and you've got that opportunity to really look that animal over and make a really good decision. And I mean, I've glassed bears and lions and stuff across big canyons. It's tough. It's a lot tougher to be able to do that and and when i'm hunting with a hound it really cuts that down a lot yeah it's the it's the original catch and release method for sure you bet chris we're going to be watching for the national houndsman alliance

and any kind of news coming up man keep me up to speed on that and i'll i'll be sure and get it out to everybody it It's important. It's an important cause and you're a good guy. And I know the folks that you're dealing with up there are good folks too. And I want to help you and we do too. Yep. Well, I appreciate it. And you know, the main thing is, is we're just going to need everybody on board. We've got to, we've got to finally realize that the anti-hunting public and the people

that are trying to take our freedoms away are not going to rest until they get it all. And right now, houndsmen are the ones that are under the most attack. So we need all hands on deck. I don't care if you like hanging in a tree saddle, setting a trap, or fly fishing in the back pond on a one-minute fishing show. Exactly. I appreciate it, man. Thank you, Chris, and we'll be talking to show. Exactly. I appreciate it, man. Thank you, Chris.

And we'll be talking to you, buddy. Thanks. Thanks, Chris. Talk to you later. Mr. Phil. Yes, sir. What we got in line? We got a few comments here.

First, we have one from a, uh, from an Alexis Reeves. Hey, from the Arkansas state capital. Love you, Brent Reeves. That's my boss. That is the newly appointed Director of Public Affairs for the Commissioner of

State Lands in the state of Arkansas. Oh, cool. Congrats, Alexis. She does good. That's my gal. Back to the worst days of fishing from Nick. Worst day I've ever seen. Guy fell off the pier fishing for walleye in November, filled his full suit, uh, his suit full, his waders full of water in seconds, came back up half a minute later, uh, in his birthday suit.

At least he came up. Yeah, exactly. That's a rough time to fall in the water in November. Yeah, for real. But you can buy more clothes if you're alive. Yeah, that's right. Uh, there was some, some debate happening in the comments for this one. What's everyone's favorite freshwater fish to eat?

That's from Tyler Ramsey. Oh, Tyler, mine, no doubt, is 100% bluegill brim. Yellow perch. Walleye. Great. Yeah, we had Garrison referring to you, Brent. He seems to recall you saying on This Country Life that it hurt him to use bluegill to catch flatheads, since he likes bluegill better.

I'm telling you, it was a dichotomy of sorts there. I couldn't figure out what I wanted to do, and I told the guys fishing with it, and I said, Keith, this seems to be sacrilegious to bait something that tastes wonderful to catch something that tastes good. So, yeah, I would struggle with that. Carter is asking Brent if you have any tips for fishing invasive black carp on the Mississippi. Oh, man. You know, I haven't fished on the Mississippi River.

That is, it's huge. It's a goal of mine and my brother's. I'm actually getting a boat that's going to be big enough to get out there and do some fishing. But, man, I'm totally ignorant of those carp and how to deal with them. They haven't got a whole lot where we fish at. We see them some, but we haven't been dealing with them very much. And my brother and I have only been fishing on the Arkansas River commercially. We've been on the Arkansas River hunting forever,

but actually commercial fishing we haven't just within the last six months. So, man, I don't know. Contact whoever your Department of Wildlife, because they're going to, I promise you, they've got a plan to try to get rid of those things because they are absolutely ominous. Noah says, my family bought about 25 acres in Indiana There are a few decent prospects He's never hunted anything larger than a rabbit

Would my hand be down Marlin 30-30 be fine Or should I get a new gun 30-30 is to kill more deer than CWD Yeah For deer on 25 acres That's more than enough 30-30 is just fine Sight that sucker in and

Go hunt Go get him So that's more than enough. Yeah. 30, 30 is just fine. Sight that sucker in and go hunt. Go get him. Great. And, uh, let's see, is this more for Brody and Seth and also Spencer and Steve, but Eric's asking if, uh, meat eater radio will be providing or discussing regional rut reports or deer reports in the upcoming months. I don't know if Brody or Seth. I know we're going to have some stories.

I mean, well, yeah, we'll be giving updates as the hunting season goes on. Spencer would be the guy to ask you about like regionally specific rut reports. I'm sure that like the Whitetail guys for sure will be doing something in that arena. Yeah, the Element guys are starting up our seasonal Rup Fresh Radio podcast soon. Actually, I think it might have dropped yesterday. I think the first episode of the season. So if you want to check that out, they do a bunch radio podcast soon. Actually, I think it might have dropped yesterday. I think the first episode of the season. So if you want to check that out, they do a bunch of regional stuff.

And I will say lastly, Tiger's fan 6884 says that he wishes he could make the tailgate in Ann Arbor to check Randall's hubris. Listen, look under Randall's shirt. He might be wearing some kind of Ohio State jersey Uh oh He's fixing to get violent

That's going to cause a fight It was good knowing you Dr. Randall Yeah but if anyone's listening to this Meat Eater will be in Ann Arbor for the game This weekend We're going to have a booth there People, we've got Randall and Spencer there Cook and Chili, come say hi

Corinne and I will also be there. We'll be recording some trivia at the crack of dawn, so if you're an early bird, you can come watch us do that as well. 9 a.m. local time there. 9 a.m. local. That sounds fun. That's good. That's going to be a good time.

Great. Well, Brent, that's the show. Hey, thank everybody. Thank you all for being, Brody, Seth, Corinne, Phil, Tressa, and Corey, the cameraman out there for Tressa. Thank you, everybody. Thank you all for being Brody, Seth, Corrine, Phil, Tressa, and Corey, the cameraman out there for Tressa. Thank you, buddy. Thank you all for watching and listening. Next week, we're going to have a whole lot better looking host. You can look forward to that.

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