The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 610: MeatEater Radio Live! Chester the Non-Digester, Catching Crabs, and a Tar-penis Tattoo

Episode Date: October 11, 2024

Welcome to our brand new MeatEater Radio Live! podcast. Today, we're coming to you from Cypress Cove Marina in Venice, Louisiana. You can watch the stream on the MeatEater Podcast Network YouTube channel or catch the audio version of the show right here. Today's episode is hosted by Steven Rinella, Janis Putelis, Mark Kenyon, and Tony Peterson, and Phil Taylor, with guest Chester Floyd.   Connect with The MeatEater Podcast Network MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YoutubeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Meat Eater Podcast. Welcome to Meat Eater Radio, not live. For you all, it's 11 a.m. Mountain Time october 10th brush jokers it's the day before and we're at cypress cove marina in venice louisiana now i just took the hosting spot from steve because he's claiming he's too tired to do two podcasts in one day no it's because i had oh man you beat me to it because i was going to say we're going to see how long it's going to take till i get interrupted as I'm trying to host. By saying the wrong thing is a sure way it's going to happen.

Okay. I ate a giant blackened shrimp po' boy, and it's kind of knocked me out. Did I not just say that? No. Did he get tired from his lunch? Today, I'm joined by Steve Arino, Antonio, Marco, and Chesterino. On today's show, we've got live Chetiket with Chester, the non-digester. We'll get to that.

That's his new nickname because he almost died choking last night when we got to it. We'll hit our top three fish meals, or maybe just one that we had this week. Hot tips. One minute fishing, which turns out to be like 10 or 15 minutes of fishing. Bad fishing tattoos. A rut report from Mark

Kenyon coming to you in early October. Everybody can kind of guess how that's going to go. And indefensible laws. And all three of these guys have an indefensible law they're going to pitch to us today. So let's start right off the top with Chetaket. Are you also going to come on in, but are you going to tell us also how you got the new nickname before we go to Chetaket? Okay. While you put that headset on Chester, I'm going to go to Chetaket? Okay.

While you put that headset on Chester, I'm going to play the Chetaket theme song. Here we go. That's a good one, Phil. Thank you. All right. Yeah. That's a good one, Phil. Thank you. All right. Yeah, I'm down here in Louisiana going to give you a chetakit that I always do. I'm not sitting at my campfire in Wisconsin, but I'll talk about choking a little bit.

We had some prime rib. You guys were there, as you know. And I got asked a question, and was like i don't know just trying to answer the question so i took about two quick chews of that prime rib swallowed it and i sat there and i kind of knew it was in my throat but i've never choked before so i started going just swallowing these big, deep swallows. And it was still there. And then I went, uh-oh.

And then all of a sudden, I'm sitting at the table with all these wonderful guests that we have down here for this experiences trip. And a bunch of shit comes up my nose. Why do you think that was flu like fluid because i was i think i had some like you know just like i don't know it was like snot basically not like a1 no that would have not that horseradish that would have hurt uh anyways so basically I was like, my body was like, get that thing out. So it was doing its best. And when I kind of went to take a breath, it was like, you know, like, then it was like, felt like it was locked in.

So I was embarrassed. Like, you know, everyone's like looking kind of like doing one of these almost they were because they didn't really know me and i'm i wouldn't if i was there i would not have done and i well they i think they were just trying to be polite they didn't know what was happening they thought it was maybe coughing or do you know and i like you know probably sprayed them a little bit with the snot snot and so i get up and I walk outside in the dark. And all this time you're still choking. Mm-hmm.

So I go out there. What's the time span we're talking here? 10 seconds of choking? 5 seconds of choking? It's like 15 seconds maybe. Something like that. Quick. So it all happened real quick then i head out there and

i'm sitting by the garbage i'm like i just like tried to give it everything i had like you know to get it up like trying to go up or down up hawk the biggest thing and my body kind of just naturally when i did that you know kicked it kicked it out, kicked it out with, uh, some, some vomit. Yikes. Yeah. That's kind of scary. And then, uh, a couple of people saw me and came out there and Steve made a comment.

That's like one of the ways people, people go when they're joking. I'll share my own testimonial. I was, uh, standing outside a restaurant one night talking to my friend who smoked cigarettes so we had to stand outside and door bus open and out spills a man and he makes the universal choking gesture to us and he had and so i later in telling the story, was told by people that it's common for choking people to do counterintuitive moves like that. So he bursts outside, and I Heimlicht him out in the parking lot. And I hit him good, and we looked for that chunk of steak, couldn't find it. Now, prior to that experience.

I know it sounds weird. Prior to that experience. You probably would be interested to see what size of steak it would cause someone. I was just curious to see it. Yeah, to choke. Prior to that experience, I had occasion a number of times to hang out with Dr. Heimlich's granddaughter. What I didn't bring up with her is that

Heimlich got a little off the deep end and started to think that the Heimlich maneuver fixed all kinds of things. He started to think it was like a panacea. Interesting. Fun fact. So, hot tip. If you're choking, don't run outside.

There's nobody. Stay inside. Show everybody you're choking. Have someone help you out right inside now on a chetakit chester okay yeah so this week's chetakit comes at us from tyler and tyler writes a week ago my brother a friend and i set out for a week a week long backcountry mule deer hunt in washington we reached the trailhead three nights before the season opener slept on cots and then packed in the next morning we hiked about 10 miles gained several thousand feet of elevation with with eight days of food and gear on our backs and then we set up camp in the same spot that they had

set up last year off of a spur trail pretty detailed i thought i shortened that down a little bit it's really put me in the put me in the mood the day before the season while at camp an outfitter with two guides and four clients arrived on horseback we overheard them cursing at us about being in in quotes their spot i assume they moved on but they lingered for 30 minutes to an hour until two more pack strings arrived, each with a horse leading five mules. They set up a large wall tent just 20 yards from us. This area is dispersed camping and not a designated campground. Not only did the outfitter disrupt our spot, but it also violated the 12 heartbeat wilderness rule, trying to bypass it by splitting up into three groups of 12, six humans and six animals.

Does that make sense? Yep. So this guy's asking, am I wrong for feeling upset and is it poor etiquette by the outfitter or am I overreacting? So I think that he's not wrong for feeling upset. If I were in a camp spot up there and an outfitter rolled in and that'd be a bummer. You know, they were in there the year before, but... I mean, the outfitter obviously is breaking a rule, you know?

Sounds like he's got too many people out there. But he's trying to be cute by acting like they're in multiple groups. Yeah, so I mean, this guy's not wrong for feeling upset. I mean, my question to him would be like, did you talk to the guy guy or did you just end up camping next to each other for a week while and being pissed off um but i think these outfitters you know who knows if they cleared out this spot um a lot of outfitters kind of do that year after year but it sounds like they weren't in there the year before um but yeah i would just go talk to the dude if it were me i wouldn't want to be set up next to that many people so

i would probably relocate a little bit but you're not wrong what would you say when you went to talk to him how would you kicked it off uh i'd be like hell of a nice, I like your belt. I would have talked to them right away before they started setting up. Yeah. And I would have said, you know, we're here. Is there anywhere else you guys can camp? And then go from there. Well, look, when you're eight miles back in the wilderness, there's plenty of room for six people to hunt, you know,

six different directions. So you should try to, if you're stuck in what's kind of a shitty situation, you might as well work with them and try to make the best of it, which would be at least be like, okay, which direction are you guys hunting? What do you guys normally do? And at least try to make a plan on the map where you weren't going to hunt on top of each other. Yeah. So, I don't know.

I think, I think that, you know, in this situation, you're not wrong for feeling upset. Go talk to the fella and make a plan. Thanks Chester. Yeah.

I'm going to head out now and take a nap. Chester also had a big sandwich, but that's not why he needs to take a nap right now. He was entertaining the Experiences clients. Chester's been doing the night shift. That's right. That's right. A little bit of music involved.

All right, we're on to top threes. I don't think it's going to be top threes today. We're going to do top three fish meals, but I think we should just do top fish meal that we've had this week during meat eater experiences. Who wants to go first? I'm voting for last night

because I loved the fried fish. I loved the red fish nuggets as the appetizer. I really liked that lobster, like blackened lobster pasta. And then this isn't the fish part, but the peach cobbler with ice cream was some of the best I've ever had. Great. And you missed the crawfish etouffee that we put on top of the catfish.

Oh. That was last night, wasn't it? I think that was my favorite. I love etouffee. was last night wasn't it i think that was my favorite i love f2f my uh my favorite that we had last night um and if i was a real if i you know i quit drinking if i quit drinking like how a lot of people do which is like a difficult process for them i would have relapsed i would have had a relapse because of the oyster shooters i didn't realize that that oyster was floating in a Bloody Mary. I just thought it was floating in some kind of red sauce. So I drank a couple, and there was like a nice burn to it.

And then I realized that it was a raw oyster floating in a Stiffy. Floating in a little Bloody Mary. That was good. Before you changed it and it was going to be best fish of all time, I was going to say those grilled river fish down in South America when they put them on that rack and smoke them.

What's that seasoning that they like to use down there? Remember that? They all carried around a little vial. Yep. That's right. It was from a pepper they grew in their gardens. That's right. And then, this is just so folks know,

it started out, I was going to be able to pick three fish things. And then I was going to quit at two. And then I got reduced to none. So those were your two?

Were the oyster shooters and that fish? No, the one was, when you changed it, the one was when you changed it. The one was what I was going to use, and I'm not even going to get into the other favorite fish meal of mine. Go on. No, okay.

Tony, favorite fish meal this week? Sure. Yeah, he can't. No, I know, but we've had shrimp 10 different ways. Well, are you – because you just asked me what my favorite fish meal was. Oh, sorry. Tony is allergic to fish, so he doesn't not have a favorite fish meal.

But I think that we could say favorite seafood meal that we've had this week. You know, that lobster pasta we had last night was like, I'm not like a huge pasta guy. I'm not like a huge lobster guy, but I was like, that was really freaking good. So that was kind of out of left field. That wasn't like a typical thing that you would have. You ever hear that saying like, I could hurt myself or I hurt myself like in context of eating too much. Yeah.

We've heard it about 5,000 times this week. Yeah. Down here, it's very common. I feel like that with every meal we've had here, it's like you weren't paying attention especially with like a lobster pasta you could just keep going back for seconds and thirds and the next thing you know you you'd need help getting back to your room can we can we

revisit something that we talked about before the show we sure can dr ranella tony can you say real quick what you think is true? So I don't know if this is true, but I was told this by a travel nurse when I went to Africa. And she asked me, what allergies do you have? And I jokingly said, I'm allergic to fish. She said, I bet you can eat salmon and trout. And I said, why would that be? And she said, because a lot of times it's a heightened sensitivity to mercury buildup in the fat deposits of fish.

And they live in cold, clear water. And so sometimes people who believe they're allergic to all fish can eat those fish. Yeah, she's right, but she's totally wrong about why. It has nothing to do with the clarity. Like mercury has nothing to do with the temperature of the water. It has nothing to do with the temperature of the water, has nothing to do with the clarity of the water. It has to do with the longevity and diet of the fish. What you have is there's certain fish proteins,

and those fish proteins, for whatever reason, you're not allergic to the ones that are in salmonids. Okay. Doctored. I'm not a doctor. I'm not a guy i'm just a guy okay well it's just that when i heard that mercury thing it kind of rattled it kind of shook me up i got a little angry i get it well a medical professional told me that uh also i don't drink anymore but when she told me that i did drink and so i went and caught two trout and then I drank a bunch of whiskey because I didn't have the stones to try it because it's a horrible reaction.

And then I tried a little bit of trout. And I could eat it. And it was like the world opened up for me. And now I take great pleasure in my little girls and I go catch brook trout. And we were meat fishing. We bonk them with a rock right on the stream side like you used to when you were little. Yeah. Yeah.

Love it. And I think about you every time I do it, Mark. I'm okay with that. These beautiful native brookies. There's plenty of them over there. Are they native there? Where we're fishing. Up north in the air?

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Hot Tip-Off time! We've got some hot tips to get to today. And these ones this week are courtesy of Danielle Pruitt and Brody Henderson. They're going head to head. Let's roll the clips. Welcome to another hot tip off. When you're on an extended backcountry hunt and you're facing down seven or ten days of eating nothing but freeze dry, do yourself a favor and bring some salami or you could use summer

sausage too um it keeps forever you don't gotta worry about it going bad and you can mix up that freeze dry by making some fried salami sandwiches which are excellent steve steve may like them more even than his own American buffalo goulash. I like it a lot. It's linger-ficking good. And not only that, the reason they call it summer sausage is it's for the summer. It doesn't go bad. So do yourself a favor.

Bring a little frying pan. Throw some butter in there. Keep the grease that you've been using. Heat that sucker up slice two or three of these get yourself a bagel block of cheese some mustard throw that thing in there perch your ass right back up when you get yeah and we've been eating these things for days we're almost out I brought three of these tubes of salami

and that's all that's left. So we're gonna have a couple more right now. Try it out. I'm Danielle Pruitt and I've got a hot tip for you for working with shanks. So say you wanna make something like also bucco but you don't have a saw to cut through the bone or maybe you're short

on time and you you really need to speed up the cooking process but these shanks take forever to break down what you can do is you can actually just take a knife cut it into cross sections through the muscle but not the bone and keep it attached to the bone and then you'll cook it just as you normally would in a recipe so you'll brown the meat saute some vegetables stock and then throw it all in the pot to slow cook and because it's cut up into these pieces it's going to cook a lot faster as opposed to just one big chunk of meat and you'll know it's ready whenever it falls off the bone okay what do you guys want to rate each one or just go ahead and say who's better?

Danielle's is better, but Brody's is better. I can explain. Please. Hers is better. It's a better tip. I never thought of that. Reach is a wider audience. It's a good tip.

But those fried salami sandwiches are so good in the right circumstance, meaning you've been out hunting for a long time, not eating your normal food, and then you get that, and you're so thankful. So his is better, but it's not like better, better. Danielle's is better. That was going to be my one comment on Brody's. I was going to say, don't try this at home

because that sandwich at home is not going to impress anybody. You know how anything fried and greasy is so good when you're camping after a while? Right. You get four or five days in, and you're like, oh. Yeah, you have to be kind of tired, kind of wet, been sleeping on the ground for three, four days. And then someone's like, hey, let's fry up some summer sausage.

Yeah! In butter! Oh, yeah! And then with the leftover grease, we'll cook something else. Awesome. I'm going to give it to Danielle. You guys? I'm giving it to Danielle, too.

Same here. That's a good tip. Yeah. Because I would normally do what she's talking about. Then I'd have my kid go out and get the hacksaw or the sawzall, and then I would sawzall it in the sink. Yeah, I have some whole shanks right now in my freezer. When I get home, I might do that.

That's a great tip. Because if you don't cut it and you just cook the whole thing, it's a different product. Different product. Oh, yeah. Big time. What do you guys say? Corinne, nothing?

Man, Brody's getting his ass kicked. Speaking of Danielle, she's got a new cookbook out. The Wild and Whole Cookbook, Seasonal Recipes for the Conscious Cook. Have any of you made a recipe out of it yet? I haven't

cooked it, but I've looked through it and noted some. It looks really good. It looks great. Yeah. It is a beautiful book. They did a good job. Yep. Check it out wherever cookbooks are sold.

All right. One Minute Fishing. It says, Yanni, throw to Steve. You must be introing our One Minute Fishing. How do I do that? You have to talk about yourself

in a past tense, I believe. Oh. Where should I look, Phil? Look at that camera right there. Join us for one-minute fishing outside. Over to you, Steve. Hey, what's going on, podcast listeners? This is Phil the Engineer coming to you with a little note from my hotel room here at Cypress Cove in Venice, Louisiana.

This next bit that we filmed in lieu of one minute fishing, this little competition that's coming up, was filmed outside. It was very, very windy. The audio is still there. I cleaned it up the best I could. It's a little rough, though. So you can hop on over to the YouTube version so that way you're actually watching what's happening. The audio is not as distracting. But if you're listening to the audio only version, feel free to sit through it.

You can skip ahead about six minutes if you just want to get to the winner and get on with the rest of the show. Anyway, I just thought I'd let you know. Back to the show. Okay, we're here at Cypress Cove Marina, literally in the marina. And we're going to have our one-minute fish-off. We're doing it a little bit different because we're gonna do it where it's an elimination round I'm gonna fish against Yanni again we're fishing in the

marina there's a mixed bag Tony how many species of fish have you encountered in the marina five last probably five five species of fish first fish goes to the second round mark will be losing that round because he's got his fly pole and and we're in a marina he might tip his fly with a little piece of shrimp we're in a marina and it's not like your coveted game fish here as much as it's just kind of a grab bag how you loading up i'm not showing you my ring it's pretty much the same thing though and my reel is broken i want everyone to know three not ready two one again One, begin. Yanni's going straight down. Steve passed. Steve's gonna bounce along the bottom. Yanni might have had a hit, I don't know. We're at 30 seconds.

Instead of Yanni casting, he's just walking out onto the dock. Adds some movement where Steve is just casting and reeling. Oh, Steve lost his bait. Oh, he's going to keep his hand on the handle. We surpassed a minute. We're going now into two minute fishing. Going into overtime. Steve has another cast out. Johnny's trying to get in the shade. We're at a minute 30. You guys are almost at a two minute fail? We're about to hit three minute fishing.

I think you may need to call it. I don't know, dude. I haven't got the tap as far as I know. I'm asking you. Oh, Steve's on. Steve's on. Steve's on. Oh. In the final seconds, will he land it? Oh!

What do we got? We got a catfish. What kind? Looks like a hardhead. I'm just trying to pull it out for the folks at home. Of course. We all knew it. If it is a hardhead... It's a hardhead. Seth, can you talk about why you might want to avoid that?

So these things have spines on their fins that hurt like hell. And they have a venom in them. I don't think it's fair to call them a venom. Well, it has something to irritate you. Have you had one go into your finger? When I was a little kid, I threw one back on vacation in Florida. I flew through one in, it came up, I stepped on it and it pretty much ruined my little kitty vacation. Alright, Steve's going on to the finals. Going on to the finals. Let me freshen up. Good job, good job. See you in a minute, Tony.

Mark looking very contemporary. Are we ready to go yet? Yeah, we're rolling. Set, three, two, one, fish! Begin! Oh, he bounced, he bangs off the pilot. He bangs off the pilot. Bangs off the pilot. He needs to get it all plowed. You got full ladders that climb hard. Well, you know what? Tony's a little bit. Tony's been here before. Yeah, he's been fish fishing for three days straight.

Tony's not a parapet. He's a free fish. Where are we on in time, Corrette? We're at 40 seconds. Mark just went up. Mark hit the bottom again. The high sun has gotten fished out a little bit. Operating just a few seconds here.

Alright, Tony is casting again. Tony is now flipping docks like you would in Minnesota for the great largemouth bass. Did you buy that juice at a fly shop? I haven't seen that anywhere I've shopped yet. All right, we have surpassed one minute and 11 seconds. Mark has thrown off his game because the water is significantly warmer than what he's used to. Yeah, this is not Idaho trout fishing, is it? We have turned this into two-minute fishing.

He's got to keep going with someone. I'd say we just start. We have to have a final. We just start it. We pretend that after this didn't happen. We just go, okay, I'm excited to cast else's. Yeah. We have to have a final. We just started, we pretended that after this didn't happen. We just go, okay, I'm excited to cast for the first time. You know, Randall, I was thinking about that, but I might just edit it down.

For sure. This is the perks of a prerecord. Well, you're in show business. Fast forward and run the video. Yeah. All right, we're at two and a half minutes, everybody. Would that crab count there? Yes.

Yeah, go for it. I think a crab would count. Oh Yay! That is so good! He does not want to let it go. Excellent! That was sight fishing. That was sight fishing, yeah. Usually the fly guys are into sight fishing. All right, we're moving on to Steve and Tony. All right, we're on. Three, two, one, cast.

All right. Steve's got a very athletic stance. He's leaning in. Oh, Tony's holding up. Tony's holding up. Hey! Oh, wow. We got 15 seconds.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, he's throwing up all sorts of things. That makes Tony Peterson our winner of multi-minute fishing. Way to go, Tony. Was there ever really any serious doubt here? I mean, are you kidding me? um yeah tony sight fished a crab while he was battling mark in the first round and uh that crab i don't want to say it saved your butt it really didn't you had all the time in the world because mark mark was still mark was still false casting trying to decide exactly where to lay down his shrimp,

and you already had that crab on. Right. I like a challenge. Right. I'm not convinced that the crab should count. Still. Yeah, but what were we going to do? Hold on.

Hold on, though. Just watch you cast? And Corinne could vouch for this, too, but that crab was perfect execution on my part. I spotted him. I had to flip right in front of him. I had to keep that shrimp at a perfect level that he could swim over there. He grabbed it, then I slowly reeled him in

and then very gently brought him up. Yeah, but the problem is, I didn't bring this up at the time because I don't want to seem like a sore loser, but it's not fish. That's what I'm getting at. It's not one minute crabbing. It's one minute fishing.

Right. I'm just saying the skill level it took to do that was way beyond any fish you're gonna catch next time i have a fishing contest i'm gonna clarify i'm gonna be like yeah fin fish listen all i know is when that little crab got onto the dock the crowd there went nuts okay and they declared a winner so you can't argue well and what happened in the second round? I believe you and Rinella were fishing. You both had to make a couple casts. No, no, no.

Not on the second one. Oh, no? First cast? Oh, that's right. You were like six seconds in and you had a catfish. You got anything to say to defend yourself? Maybe you were on the wrong side of the dock. No, I think that he got into the finals.

Catching a crab. And I just didn't feel like arguing it out. So it was like I never looked at it like an actual win on his part. You know, that's all. I was just like, whatever. You know, you can't win them all.. That's all. I was just like, whatever. You can't win them all. When you play fair. The only thing I noticed was your very aggressive stance

when you made your cast. You were prepared to do battle with the Leviathan. I was ready for a hook set. Yeah. All right. Now we're on to

Tattoos I Regret. I made a huge mistake. That's it. That's all you got? Well, that was before I started doing the fun parodies that everybody loves and treasures. All right, the first one. Can I tell you?

I ran into a guy at the airport the other day, and after our Puss in the Pot episode, he got the Puss in the Pot on him. The same one that's on the t-shirt? The gaff. Him and his friend, he's a young feller. Him and his friend were running around work so much saying puss in the pot

that their boss told them they were going to get fired if they didn't stop saying that. Now that makes me laugh. That's pretty good. Man, it's always young people. You don't really run into many 50-year-olds where you're like, really? You got that tattooed? It just occurred to me that we're looking at his whole back.

Here's the thing that really bothers me. It runs from his ass neck to his shoulder blade. Yeah, I didn't see that until just now either. That's wild. Here's the big missed opportunity. Hold on, I gotta read the little letter that he sent in along with it.

We also need to describe it for the podcast audience. Okay, Nick Zalewski says, look at this mistake. Had the outline of Michigan done. Was okay with that. Then went back to add

a largemouth bass on a rod and reel. And I get a rainbow colored bass in a puddle on a rod that looks as if a fifth grader drew it. Please help. Man. I don't understand why he didn't have the hand of Michigan holding the rod. That would have brought it all together. Oh, like the mitt was holding it. Yeah, the mitt hand of Michigan holding the rod. That would have brought it all together. Oh, like the mitt was holding it? Yeah, the mitt should have been holding the rod. There's a missed opportunity right there.

That is one of the worst, biggest tattoos I've ever seen. I mean, how long do you think his rod is? Clip it out. Oh, my God. There we go. We're just trying to paint the picture and put it in perspective. Folks need to appreciate. So if you imagine a man's

so here's why he's surprised. One, you go like, well, how are you surprised by your tattoo? But this is one of your parts of your body that you've never seen it's not like yeah you've never seen i the other day stepped out of my tent to take a leak in the middle of night and stepped on a tent stake and cut a part of my heel that i realized is very you think you see your heels a lot but there's a part of your heel you don't see most days

and this is a part of your body that you don't see most days so he probably only later realized how bad it was yeah i mean it goes from underneath his arm like his like lower armpit and wraps all the way around to his spine so i mean this thing's it's got to be 10 12 inches wide and uh at least that tall yeah, it runs from his ass neck to his shoulder blade, and his kidney is sitting kind of in the little, it's like sitting mid-lower peninsula. And it goes, his spine is there, and it wraps around to his,

the western UP has to be over by his nips. Damn close. His nipple. I'm not a Michigan guy. How's the outline? Is it pretty good? I mean, it's okay. It's good.

It's real good. Good enough? Yeah. Really? Even on the east side? It's looking a little rough to me. Come on. That's what I was looking at, like that little puzzle piece part.

Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty pretty. But what really is outstanding, just in its badness is the fish. The coloration. He says rainbow, but I just see like aquamarine color. Green and blue. Yeah.

Yeah. He says, what can he do to help? I'd be thinking a skin graft that he would take skin from his buttocks, have this removed, put on his buttocks, and then have the skin from his buttocks put up on his back. That is a lot. That's a lot to do just to cover a spot of your body you don't see. And then would you have it so that like the bass is sort of jumping out of his crack?

Out of his buttocks. Yeah. Or I would take that back skin and invert it and put it tattoo in, flesh out, and hope that that grew in. Well, they have a process. You know they can tattoo over tattoos, right?

They have a process where you can get these. Instead of a skin reversal? I'd err in that direction. They have a process where you can just these. Instead of a skin reversal? I'd err in that direction. They have a process where you can just get it removed. All right, we're going to vote on, we're going to do two today and then vote on the worst one. Cecil Trimble writes in, back in 2017,

I got a tattoo of a tarpon's head on the top of my arm as part of a Florida-themed fishing tattoo. The idea was to be looking downward at a tarpon. Oh. As though if you're on the bow of the boat, you know, you got a tarpon coming towards you. Dude, that is badass. You need to fly. After about five years, this tarpon began to look more and more

like a huge penis on top of my arm. Oh. I actually never noticed it. I didn't see the penis on top of my arm. I actually never noticed it. I didn't see the penis. One of my buddies did. His exact words were, My God, I thought that was a penis. That's not what he said. Yeah, right.

Oh, gee. Because that's how you talk to your buddy. My God. That's a male genitalia. He didn't say, My God. That's a male genitalia. He didn't say my God. He wrote by God. I thought that was a penis. Ever since then, that is all I can see.

More people started noticing it too. This was part of a complete sleeve that cost me close to two grand. The rest of the tattoo looks great. I've already begun the process of getting it covered with a tattoo of a stone crab. Yes, I have thought of the pun, crabs in my penis. Now, I don't see it as much as he does. I thought it looked more like a snake. I thought it was a snake.

Yeah. Well, I think specifically the nose of the turban looks a little suspect. What's the nose look like? There is a penis-like element to the front end of this tattoo. It definitely looks like the tip of a penis. I don't know what else you want me to say. We're looking for any more details.

But then it flares out pretty far. Yeah, from there it becomes less healthy. That's true. Uncircumcised or circumcised, Phil? It kind of depends what state the penis is in. Conversations like this, I'm really only really familiar with one. And when I hear conversations like this, I'm like, now I'm thinking, that's not what I see.

So I'm like, do I have a problem? Am I the weird one? Yanni, it almost looks like a penis in the process of being circumcised by one of those rubber bands that they put on, like, bowls. It's, you know what? Listen, it's not that bad. Yeah, I think it could still be. I think he could have just worked it a little bit

and just, you know, maybe flared the mouth a little bit more like it was coming up to eat the fly. Dude, he could turn it to a profile of a fish. He could just have a whole nother. He doesn't have that bad of a problem. I mean, it's not going to be cheap. Do you think he's heard about turning his skin inside out? Well, no, because he's not in that situation.

Is he gloving his arm? He's not in a situation like the other gentleman was. I think this is a fixable problem. It's going to cost a couple thousand bucks, but I think he'll be okay. He could turn that into all manner of things. If I were him, I'd leave it. I don't think it's that bad.

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if you visit onxmaps.com slash meet. onxmaps.com slash meet. Welcome to the OnX club, y'all. All right, we're on to the Rutt Report. Mark Canyon is going to bring us a Rutt Report. The date today is, I think, October 10th. How do you get three minutes out of this, Mark? Easy.

Oh, okay. Oh, my God. Have you not heard Mark talk? Yeah, just throwing it on and on. We were joking that he would say that it's not happening yet. Oh, okay. Oh my God. Have you not heard Mark talk? We were joking that he would say that it's not happening yet. Is this going to be more of a rut forecast? Well, well, here's the thing is we do this podcast on Wired to Hunt called Rut Fresh Radio, in which every week we check in with deer hunters all across the country, four or five different people,

different parts of the country, finding out what's happening right now so when the actual rut does arrive there's very peak of the rut related you know updates but the lead up to the rut is just as important as the actual peak of breeding so people want to know about all that kind of stuff so this week's rut report is that across most of the country the upper half if you know if not a little bit more than that we are beginning to build up to the rut so peak of breeding is somewhere like michigan's november 15th typically so right now deer are slowly ramping up testosterone slowly building this deer so one of the most visible things you're seeing is that scraping activity is picking up so in our rut fresh radio episode that comes out the Wednesday of this week, we hear from some people that are all noticing a lot more

scrapes, a lot more, I wouldn't say a lot more, but a lot more scrapes and some more visible daylight activity on those. So I've seen that on my own trail cameras, starting to get daylight bucks showing up, hitting those even in huntable hours hours so that's a key thing to note one other thing for anyone listening you know obviously it's live uh there's a cold front coming through much of the country right now that's hitting somewhere between saturday and monday for various parts of the country temperatures are dropping more than 20 degrees so for example in michigan where i live it's going from 77 down to 51 for the highs. That's going to get a lot of deer moving and there should be some good hunting coming up.

That's titillating. That's what I shoot for with all my rut reports. Titillating. That was a phenomenal rut report. I was speaking just of that temperature drop. That's titillating for me. I thought the whole...

I could listen to that from years ago when it has for me. I thought the whole, it could be, I could listen to that from years ago when it has no relevance and I would still have been interested in it. Oh, listen. I'll be back

every other week. Yeah, you should just make up something and give it to me. Amen. Mark, that was so much better than everybody expected. Thanks for that, Tony.

Good job. Thanks. Thank you, Mark, for the Rutt Report today. You are very welcome. Now we're on to a segment called The Indefensible Law. Steve, do you want

to intro this one? What is this music? I often... Hold on. Nice. I have questions about that one. Phil, his game is really off, man, like the last couple of these.

Yeah, we started with Chattic and everybody's like, yeah. Phil's a genius, all that. It's like, wow. That's okay. You know, Randall called my intros noise last night after a couple of drinks. So we're not speaking today. Right. so we're not speaking today right i i have a thing where i um i have a problem where i run around and i'll something will annoy me and i'll say like i know it would be government overreach but i feel

like it should be against the law to whatever you know and so in doing like an indefensible law thing someone else starts i'm trying i do them so, I have to think of one of my favorites. A thing that I feel should be against the law. Oh, yeah. But you felt like you explained what we're doing here. Yeah. If you could indulge your annoyances, not indulge your annoyances, but if you could take things that just drive you nuts

and pass a law around it and not need to your annoyances, but if you could take things that just drive you nuts and pass a law around it and not need to rationalize it, not need to make it seem like it was doing anybody any good but you, what would you create? For instance, earlier we were talking about, I was saying, this is probably indefensible, it's mean, but I think that if you have a cowboy hat, you should at least be livestock adjacent. you should at least be livestock adjacent.

You should at least be livestock adjacent. I would sign that law. If I was the emperor of the world and they put that law on my desk, I would sign that into law. Do you feel that way around baseball hats? No. Cop uniforms, yes. But, I mean, a baseball hat, way back in the day, only baseball players? No. Cop uniforms? Yes. But I mean, a baseball hat

way back in the day, only baseball players wore them. That's why I call them Bill Caps. You do not call them Bill Caps. Sometimes I call them Bill Caps. When? Why do you call them Bill

Caps? Often. A lot. No one's perfect. Son, go grab your Bill Caps. A lot. No one's perfect. No one's perfect. Son, go grab your Billcat. Yes, often I'll say that. I'm impressed by all of you because when we have to do this segment, I'm like, I don't have any. I get annoyed by laws that are already in,

and I'm like, well, I'll just get rid of that one. Okay, here's one. Let me give you another one. This is my main one. Are you going to do yours now? No, I don't have one. You three have them. I think it should be illegal

to do this. You know, when someone goes on a, let's say it's, let's say it's firearms season or firearms are legal and someone's like,

I'm going to do it with my bow, but then they bring a gun. I don't think you should be allowed to do that. I kind of like that. I think that that should be illegal. do that i kind of like that i think that that should be illegal i think that when you bite when you when you bite that off and you go

into that you're like you're gonna go on a sheep hunt you're like and you know what dude i'm gonna do it with my bow i'm and you could use a gun so here i am as the not as the person not doing that i'm like that is that's like such dedication that you're willing to go and like eat the tag you're willing to do all that work and have sheep or goats or whatever you could have gotten one but you wanted to do it your way you know you wanted to like push the envelope and like push yourself to extremes but then on the last day they grabbed their gun i just feel like they led me on and that they that they weren't really i don't i think that you should get arrested if you do that i think we should interview we have whole media podcast episode where we interview like four or five people that have done this i know some i have

dear friends that pulled it off on the last day. I think you're almost asking for the universe just to be handing you way too much to be like, I'm going to LARP around for eight days. Maybe not the last day. Maybe not the last day. And then on the last day, there's going to be a ram standing there. I have friends that have done it. I have dear friends that have done it. I don't think that they should still be free men.

Right. Or they should have been detained for a while in jail. A lot of it you hear about is grab the guide's gun you know try was gonna make the stock on that goat or whatever and then all of a sudden you're like we can't cross the last 150 yards hand me that 308 buddy set your bow down you know and there's one there's a there's a cousin to this that i'll touch on that i that i don't have an opinion about and I don't want these guys to get boiled into it would be if you do

an archery grizzly or archery brown bear but the guide shoots the minute you let the arrow go did you bow hunt it? I'm not going to weigh in. Maybe on a future episode. Yeah, I think people should write

in a little short essay on did you kill a grizzly bear with a bow and arrow if your guide shoots it within a minute? Because some guides, that's the only way they'll allow it to happen.

Yep. So it's like, did you? I guess you'd have to do a little necropsy to find out if it would have worked or not. I agree with you, but I also feel that those circumstances are so self-regulating.

The person that goes into it with both weapons, they're not committed in the first place, so it doesn't take long to be like the longbows staying at camp. So you don't think that we actually need a law. Tony, what's your indefensible law? The one that I think about, there's something that drives me nuts, and it's when people get a well-bred bird dog, and they have no intention, either, not only just of.

No, they have the intention. No, no, no, no. They know. you have to know yourself at a certain point not only are you not going to hunt with that dog okay whatever but you're not going to give that dog the training and the life that it needs like you live in an apartment somewhere and you're like i'm gonna get this high drive whatever well bred and then you're in an apartment in chicago and that dog cannot that's a bad matchup that drives me crazy like there's so many dog options for people who don't necessarily want

to participate in the things that that kind of high drive get an old they're called cats yeah like an old crippled up dog there there's plenty of dog breeds that are slow movers that are lap dogs that are whatever but when people get high drive bird dogs and they don't utilize them and give that dog some level of the life that it deserves that drives me freaking crazy i agree that should be against the law i say beyond prison i was just right to the guillotine no i don't well that's fine i like that i'd support that law you know what that surprises me because i thought you would probably not no i support that law when i i make a habit when i'm with my kids and my kids will see like matt's max barda's dog or they'll see cal's dog right they're like i want

to get a dog like that i i will i'll be like you have to understand the thousands of hours setting like i'm like literally setting your alarm two hours earlier than you would otherwise need to in order to get up and train your dog i'll just pound that into it not the dog. It's not the dog you like. It's what the person put in to bring that dog's talents forth. Well, right. But you also can't divorce that result from the fact that that dog has good blood. Yeah, you're right. But what I'm trying to accentuate, what I'm trying to talk to little children to explain to them what they're seeing is performance, and they're mistaking it for the dog.

I'm trying to instruct them on the importance of what, because these are people that get yelled at every day by their mother and father about not taking care of their pets. I'm trying to jam it into them. It's not just that. If you take that puppy, you take Max Barta's puppy, and it doesn't go to him and it goes to a different family, the outcome is vastly different for that dog. And just as little kids, I try to stress that to them

to try to build it like a discipline thing. I want to clarify, too, that I said get an old crippled old dog. My, we have family friends that were friends because my, he's my, my boy's best buddy, Teddy Roosevelt. They go down to the dog pound and they'll get the oldest dog. No one wants. And they'll take that dog home and take super good care of it. And that dog will die.

And then they'll get the, they'll go back down there and get the oldest dog. No one wants and take super good care of it. It'll die. They'll go get the oldest dog. No one wants. And they all, they'll have multiple sometimes of dogs that just like the rejects and they

like, just give them a very comfortable. It's nice. That is nice. Fine humans. Yeah. It's a lot. That's one heartbreak after another.

Yeah. I was going to say that I have 11 and a half year old dog. That's slowing down like big time. So that's like a very admirable thing to do because you know you don't get any of the good parts like you know like you're just like setting yourself up over and over again for just a horrible experience yeah that should be the law should support that, right? Marco? Yeah. I've got one that'll piss some people off,

but if I'm the ruler of the world and I don't need to care about everybody drawing their line in the sand somewhere different, this is my sand, this is my line. It's your world. My world. I would say that there should be a law that says that all cell cameras

should be sold with a 24-hour delay. So you can use a cell camera, but you can get no photos any sooner than 24 hours after they happen. I think that would be... I feel like this is a law that might actually come to be. I think this is the only one that might eventually exist. How are they going to regulate that? I think they're going to have to sell state-compliant cameras at some point.

Well, I've always thought that if a camera company came out with a fair chase camera and they marketed it in this kind of way and said, hey, if you're using our camera, that's like, hey, this is the way I operate. There might be a sub-segment of the market who care about that enough to vote with their dollars. I would vote with my dollars in that kind of way.

And if that came first, then there's not necessarily just going to be a blanket ban in the future because a state could go, well, if there's this kind of more ethical style, then we could write a law this way when people are pissed off about whether they're fair chase or not. And I think it gives you the ability to still use this tool, but it eliminates the most icky possible uses of the tool so it's a moderated kind of

regulation you know you apologized and said it's going to piss people off but you're sitting next to a man over here that is going to execute he's going to execute people who haven't, who made a bad dog, who made a bad dog purchase. Good point. I'm the reasonable one here. You're just going to make it that you can't, I mean, this is going to,

this is going to make the news. How do you work it now when there isn't a state agency telling you how to do it? How do you work your cell cameras now? Well, that's what I do. I have a 24 hour delay on mine. An actual delay, or you just have it set to only send once a day? Once a day. So it sends once every 24

hours, and then you set the time. Right. So most of mine are set at like 7, 8 in the morning, something like that. And then every morning, you get them. Actually, it's in the middle of the night because every morning when I wake up, there's a bunch of them. So, yeah. And the first thing you do when you're in the deer stand in the morning it's still dark you're like well might

as well scroll through see what happened a little bit that's what i do but i have mine set up on the 24 hour too you know but uh yeah it's a thing i do in the deer stand now scroll through some pictures but i just don't want to be tempted i don't want to be tempted to be like walking out to the tree stand or something and then i look at my photos and then I see like, oh, geez, 20 minutes ago, this buck was there or whatever. For me, like I know everyone's different, but that is, that's too much. No, I'm not into it. I'm not going to say who it was, but while I was in Latvia, we were hanging out and someone got a picture, like an automatic ding, you know, and there was a bunch of pigs at a feeder, and they left, and then 30 minutes later

came back with a pig. Ew. Really? Really? Yikes. I mean, you can do it. It's not illegal. Not in my world. Was that fun? I don't know. Thank you guys.

You guys really brought the energy after eating a big old po' boy for lunch. So I appreciate that. I hope you guys do too. Thanks for watching Meat Eater Live. We'll see you next week where it will be live. Hey folks, exciting news for those who live or hunt in Canada. You might not be able to join our raffles and sweepstakes and all that because of raffle and sweepstakes law, but hear this. OnX Hunt is now in Canada.

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