The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 647: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CXLVI

Episode Date: January 8, 2025

Spencer Neuharth hosts MeatEater Trivia with Steven Rinella, Janis Putelis, Brody Henderson, Randall Williams, Seth Morris, Alyssa Smith, and Nate Mason. Connect with MeatEater on Instagram,... Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, and Youtube Clips Subscribe to our new MeatEater Podcast Network on YouTube Shop Trivia MerchSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your host Spencer Newarth and today we're joined by Steve, Yanni, Brody, Randall, Alyssa, Nate and Seth. This is a 10 round quiz show with questions from Meat Eaters 4 Verticals, which are hunting, fishing, conservation and cooking and there is a prize. Meat Eaters will donate $500 to the conservation organization of the winner's choosing. And before we turn on the mics, Steve said he's created a new jingle for trivia. Oh, well, no, it's not for trivia. Oh, okay. Over Christmas, we played a lot of Uno with my kids. And after a while, we had a,
Starting point is 00:00:51 we brought in the champions to have a championship of champions. Who were the champions? Me and Matty. And so I made up a song that goes, he's the champion of champions. You can't be beat It's a great So when thinking that this we were talking about recording a championship
Starting point is 00:01:13 Mm-hmm, and I was gonna happen I was gonna sing that at the championship a lot. Okay, Philly taking notes. Yeah, I got it He's just gonna isolate that audio and now my daughter changed it it to he's champion of champions. He just got beat So did you lose to her? Did you let her win? No, no, but that was post That was a scrimmage. Okay, but in the champion of champions who won between I've prevailed in the championship Okay, good for you. You shouldn't let your kids win It's bad bad form After a long time my older boy caught on who knows largely a game of luck That make him stop trying as much
Starting point is 00:01:56 He doesn't he didn't like it as much but then two nights ago I introduced my younger boy to never play him like in high school. Did you guys play a lot of in between for money? I've never heard of that. Yes. Oh my God. It's fun, man. That ruins friendships though, dude. So I was teaching him the other night to play in between, which we're hot on right now, but for, for money, you know, we gamble. For the stat of the week this week, we're looking at the number 76. That's how many days it's been since Steve was last on Trivia. Steve, where you been? Man, all summer long and all most fall long, I was recording a new show, filming a new
Starting point is 00:02:37 show for History Channel called Hunting History, which is about, we explore eight outdoor mysteries. Things ranging from what exactly is up with cattle mutilations. Oh, what part of the country were you looking at? In Oregon. Okay. Which is a way richer, I blew it off, I blew it off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:04 It's a way richer field of inquiry than, we visited with ranchers who've had mutilated cattle. We visited with like PhD, animal pathologists, lots of stuff. yeah that that happened around my hometown in like the early 2000s and I feel like the the typical experience was they would find a dead cow that they would say had almost laser like precision of removing organs or removing eyeballs and I think I think
Starting point is 00:03:44 logical people accredited to like scavengers pick out the eyeballs first they go for the organs first and like some cattle will bloat to a point where they just like split down the middle can you tell us what conclusion you came to we got to watch a show you gotta watch the show okay I ain't buying that it's aliens it's not alien we get get into that. Okay. We go hang out with a rancher. I mean, I'm not talking like a, some guy watching Yellowstone TV show. Yeah. A rancher rancher.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Dude, there is no, he's gone through every possible explanation okay and the only thing he can land on is that it was not human what years are we talking about this happen what year did his happen the bones are still laying there oh we went out to red skeleton still laying there okay I've metal detected the whole area mmm I don't think it's aliens. Did he see anything that might have been extraterrestrial? He did. We talk about it. I feel like Eastern South Dakota too, when it was happening in the early 2000s,
Starting point is 00:04:52 that's when it was like ripe to have email chains. Like, stuff was getting, it was prior to social media, stuff would just like get forwarded around a lot. I went to another site with a guy, with a manager, a ranch manager, went to another site where he had five bulls done in one night. Wow. Looked at those. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Lot of pictures. I don't want to get into too much what I think's going on, but we took a cow and laid it out, brand spanking new. Oh. Brand spanking new. And laid it out and watched what happened to spanking new and laid it out and watch
Starting point is 00:05:25 what happened to it and you're you're coming at it from the perspective of an outdoorsman which maybe isn't how other people had exactly yeah I had I had Mercer Lawing with me okay because he does a lot of livestock work we went out with I hung out with a houndsman who works on cattle depredations because all he does is look at dead cows trying to figure out what happened to them. Hung out with him. He's got theories about what does it. Is it aliens?
Starting point is 00:05:54 He doesn't think that. Okay. So, the pathologists have their own theories about what they think, which I don't think they're looking at it right, okay Did one on the Donner party You went to where it happened everywhere it happened, okay everywhere you eat any folks on that episode did No, but I boiled hide
Starting point is 00:06:22 They'd a lot of boiled hide. When they first got stuck, they skinned out their- Before they started eating each other. They skinned out their horses and oxen and stuff. After a while, ate the meat, dried the meat, ate the meat, used the hides for shelters. Then they wound up needing to eat those hides. So boiled up some hide, see what that's all about. How'd that pass through you?
Starting point is 00:06:41 It's not, it's, you know what, man? It's not, it's flavor, it's weirdly, it's weirdly flavor, flavorless, but it's real sticky and gluey. And then, you know when we just had this dude on the podcast, the guy that found the starved to death guy? Okay. In Alaska.
Starting point is 00:06:59 He gave me a book, which is in the 20s, these guys got, in the 20s, these guys got a, in the 20s these three guys went up into the Canadian Arctic and they were gonna trap all winter and they had a spot where they thought they could live on caribou, but the caribou never came, so they all starved to death. The youngest kid lived a long, long time, like the youngest kid didn't starve to death till end of June, and he kept a meticulous journal up till the end, and then had the wherewithal to put it in the wood stove. They didn't get found for a while later, put it in the wood stove with a sign that says, look in wood stove, and there's
Starting point is 00:07:37 his journal. And they were eating hides, and they were eating crushed bone, just like the Donner Party people. But what he describes is all of the time and effort they spent trying to make enema contraptions. Because when you're boiling that crushed bone and eating that hide, it would obstruct their bowel. And so they're sometimes trying to pick out of each other and out of themselves, these wads of dry bone that would form back up in your gut and that's
Starting point is 00:08:07 kind of what seems like that's what's killing them more than anything is eating hide and bone was it like all the hair follicle was it like anything else you'd eaten no okay no did you the broth reminded me of miso soup so did you pass everything all right? The broth reminded me of miso soup. Sorry. Did you pass everything all right? Well, yeah, I didn't eat many meals of it, but we made a shelter like how they made. We talked to a lot of scientists, archeologists, and it was kind of like looking at what, what did they do that,
Starting point is 00:08:40 what was mistakes they made and what could have gone different? Okay. But the thing that people don't think about with the Donner party is there was 50% children what was mistakes they made and what could have gone different okay but the thing that people don't think about with the Donner party is those 50% children you're right I don't think about that there's a lot of people like I would have walked out of there you know 50% children yeah from infants like from infants up so this new show that you were busy filming. Haunting History, that's kept me away from doing trivia.
Starting point is 00:09:07 The Reason You Couldn't Be On Trivia comes out later this month, that's on the History Channel. All right, now here's our infrequently asked question segment. If you have a trivia related question for our crew, send it to trivia at TheMeatDealer.com with the subject line IFAQ.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Ben Stewart says, on one episode of Trivia, it was casually mentioned that and Chester once wrestled and Chester pinned him. What's the story behind that? Did he I got pictures of it? on the ice in North Dakota 30 to 50 blow zero something like that was it real or were you guys like pretty bogged down with clothes? Probably is a problem not Chester though Did he strip down? Wrestling uniform did one of you have COVID? Oh, that's right. I might have had no I didn't have COVID
Starting point is 00:10:01 And that was how it started Chester and I had just gotten over COVID, so we were in the clear. He might have been like kind of amped up from it. Yeah. Oh. Famously one of the symptoms of COVID. Of COVID. Digger, I know the funniest thing about wrestling, I don't know if I ever told you the story,
Starting point is 00:10:18 but you know when you say like Doug Dern does like talk to text, you know? And one time he was saying, we were arguing about something and he said he was gonna, he meant to say he was gonna arm wrestle me for it, but said he's gonna farm wrestle me for it. Love that. We've laughed about that a million times.
Starting point is 00:10:35 What exactly that entails. Now we have some housekeeping to get to on a previous episode of Trivia. We talked about how Jeopardy may have borrowed a question from media trivia well we now have the New York Times doing the same thing oh they'd steal all our crossword puzzle give me an example just everything we do a podcast on some sucker there writes article about all right well here's what happened they steal our stuff all the time we've got someone in that newsroom is a big fan of the podcast They steal our stuff all the time. We've got more evidence.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Someone in that newsroom is a big fan of the podcast and steals our stuff. On October 9th, during Mini-Crossword week on our website, I had a puzzle that was National Park themed. For five across, the clue was, quote, 1% of Yellowstone is in this state. The answer was Idaho, and you can see this on Phil's screen there. Well, five days later, for the New York Times Monday crossword puzzle, they had an eerily similar clue. Here's what their prompt was for 31 down. Quote, state that contains a sliver of Yellowstone National Park. The answer was, of course, Idaho. Now, that puzzle was created by
Starting point is 00:11:44 Dana Edwards, who was making his New York Times crossword puzzle debut. Dana doesn't work at the Times. He's a journalist and photographer from the Columbia Journalism School and from looking at his Instagram, I doubt he's even ever heard of MeatEater. But he did say something very suspicious in his crossword column that week. Here's the quote, I used chat GPT to write some code to search my word list for phrases that used four sets of double letters. Dana was referring to one of his themes that week, which was words with double letters like Mississippi and Hollywood. Idaho wouldn't be part of the theme he said he
Starting point is 00:12:21 used chat GPT for, but it does show that he leaned on AI to make his puzzle. If that obscure clue was borrowed from MeatEater, then it was likely fed to Dana via chat GPT. However, there's a decent chance that this is just a coincidence. The New York Times lead puzzle editor, Will Shortz, said in a 2009 interview that he receives over a hundred puzzles per week with a 5% acceptance rate and crosswords are backlogged for 2-6 months. This makes it unlikely they used a clue from MeatEater just 5 days after it was published,
Starting point is 00:12:56 but I have reached out to the New York Times crossword team so we can solve this. In the meantime, head over to themeatEater.com slash games to play our crossword puzzles that are so good that the New York Times wants to steal them. So they had almost, almost word for word, the same exact clue. And I'll remind you, the New York Times has the entire dictionary, the entire encyclopedia, everything on earth is at their disposal. I was only doing national parks and they still use the same clue of a very obscure outdoor fact five days after I did. Yep.
Starting point is 00:13:30 We're gonna solve this. I've written there a few times over the years. Maybe you're the, maybe you're the, The leak. The source. Yep, we've got a rat. We've figured it out.
Starting point is 00:13:41 I was wondering what you were, if that was a barbell, or if it was a double-ended hot dog cooker. But now I see it's a skinny man lifting a bunch of weight. Now the Shelby index for today is a four so our winner should get eight correct answers and with that we're on to the game of trivia. Play the drop, Phil. Question one. The topic is haunting and as always this will be multiple choice Which of these states does not have a bighorn sheep season is it South Dakota? Oklahoma Nebraska North Dakota
Starting point is 00:14:39 Hit me with them again, which of these states does not have a bighorn sheep season You can see the question on Phil's TV there. Your four choices, South Dakota, Oklahoma, Nebraska, or North Dakota. Three of those states have a hunting season for big horn sheep. One of them does not. Son of a bitch.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Oh, Steve's out of practice here lack of water about that can you get practice that trivia if we were playing uno though you boys would be cooked Randall can you reach for a new marker for Brody oh I'd be happy to having problems any preferences on color all right I like you know like a natural color like green Which of these states does not have a bighorn sheep? South Dakota Oklahoma, Nebraska North Dakota. I'm hating this question. Is everybody ready? I don't hate this question. Did you style your hair like that? Oh? Yeah, I just got a shower went we should encourage people to watch this episode on YouTube so they can see Yannis's new hairdo
Starting point is 00:15:46 I was like him a lot better. He's got that little buzz cut This is the problem with long hair is that if it just hangs down it gets annoying So you gotta get it off your ears and off your forehead Mm-hmm, it'll be buzz cut soon You think that says more about you Steve or more about Yanni? Me and Yanni? Both of you You think he behaves better when he's got a buzz cut you like him better She's gonna go through life better. He's more focused more disciplined. Yeah, it is warmer I will give the law my boys behave better when they got nice short hair cuts
Starting point is 00:16:15 That's why I keep a little long a little long in the winter because it's warmer South Dakota, Oklahoma, Nebraska, North Dakota is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Seth Oklahoma, Nebraska, North Dakota, is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Seth saying Nebraska, Steve, Oklahoma, Randall, Oklahoma, Alyssa, Nebraska, Nate, Nebraska, Yanis, Oklahoma, Brody, Oklahoma. Nobody picked a Dakota. It is not the Dakotas. The correct answer is Oklahoma. Hell yeah, he's back.
Starting point is 00:16:50 He's the champion of the champions. South Dakota gives out nine tags. North Dakota gives out seven and Nebraska gives out two. Oklahoma had their first documented big horn sheep in 2012 when a carcass was found near Black Mesa in the state's panhandle. More sightings have happened in the last decade with a small herd traveling between Oklahoma, Colorado, and New Mexico.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Question two, the topic is gear. This is our listener question of the week, which was won by Jerry Mitchell. For sending this great question, Jerry is going to get a board game signed by the crew. If you want a chance to win our listener question of the week then send your question to triviaatthemedeater.com. According to the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute, 20 gauge shotgun shells should be this color. He's the champion of the Steve is optimistic as well as Seth Randall and Brody according to Sammy 20 gauge shotgun shells should be this color I think you should have picked a
Starting point is 00:17:56 more obscure game yeah that was stupid he's back oh yeah I got it he's back yeah Oh You notice anything new about Phil let me stand up, let me see huh? Oh you're you're you're low setup Oh, I like the better. He looked like a DJ was giving me serious back problems. Oh, I'm down here now I will tell you this Brody and Steve. I picked this So I'm down here now. I will tell you this Brody and Steve I picked this specific gauge because they are very firm on their language and they are not as firm on their language
Starting point is 00:18:31 Got your other gauges. So I don't think that's giving a hint, but they are adamant about this gauge and this color after this question I'm gonna tell you what my favorite color for the Ages will test you guys on what can't wait. Colors and what do you think it'll be? I'll tell you about a Christmas present I got involving some shotgun shells. You're going to be jealous. Again, according to Sammy, 20 gauge shotgun shells should be this color.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Seth and Steve and Randall saying yellow. Alyssa says green. Nate says yellow. He crossed out blue. More important than that, he was going to say blue. Janice says yellow. Brody says yellow. They got it. The correct answer is yellow. Although it's not a law, Sammy strongly recommends
Starting point is 00:19:27 ammo manufacturers should make their 20 gauge shells yellow. It used to be commonplace for shotgun shells to be color-coded, but ammo companies have taken more liberties in recent years. I'm gonna test you guys. Do you know what 10 gauge is usually? Green. Brown. Brown. Brown.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Do you know what 12 gauge is? Red. Red. Red or black. red or black or black 16 purple purple Gauge don't know what was it 28 gauge Blue green 410s are red though or 10 is red. That's right So I remind you 10 gauge brown 12 gauge red or black 16 gauge purple 28 gauge green 410 red I was duck hunting last weekend and had was shooting a 12 gauge and I had four different colors Oh, I read and this was not from an official source It was more forum chatter that it became less common to color coordinate after they started stamping brass
Starting point is 00:20:24 Which wasn't always the case Makes sense Brody you had a favorite. I already said it 16 gauge. They were all purple 16 my dad He's a suit of 16 and Yanni you're gonna share with us your Christmas gift. I can yeah, I got a reusable meaning artificial wreath that is Adorned with red and yellow shotgun shells over Over a hundred, according to my brother-in-law. Wow. A homemade one? Homemade, yeah, he made it.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Seth, what were those four colors you were grabbing from? Um, there was green, there was, uh, like a tan-ish color. Okay. There was red, there was, actually it was five colors. There was black and there was blue. The other one I'd say about 12 gauge being red, I feel like I have a lot that you'd call maroon instead of red well yeah whatever the whatever the the bismuth the what's the federal bismuth stuff that's like a maroon I guess no question all the
Starting point is 00:21:18 times I would put three different shells in just to see which one hit better Noah defines this as quote a fishing practice that herds and captures the target species By towing a net along the ocean floor Couldn't tell Steve likes his answer whiteboard is already down. This is question three topic is conservation Noah defines this as a fishing practice that herds and captures the target species by towing a net along the ocean floor along the ocean floor Who I got a trivia question for you, okay, I just Fleshed and stretched the river otter. I caught uh-huh remember we had those ladies out and got mauled by the otter your neighbor Mm-hmm people are like I don't think you I would have killed it with my bare hands I just fleshed and stretched a river otter. Okay. Do you take a you? Here's a true
Starting point is 00:22:25 Just flesh and stretched a river otter. Okay. Do you take a you? Here's a true you trivia question It's a it's a tiebreaker How long is that hide? Specifically the one Steve was flashing I was gonna say like 41 inches 511 wow, that's tip and I was to tip a tail Wow. That's tip of nose to tip of tail. Five eleven. Damn. Is that just a normal size otter you think? No, it's a freaking giant dude. I think that otter tells everybody six feet. In shoes. You can get that thing stuffed into a pillow?
Starting point is 00:22:55 No. I can't do it. I haven't decided what I'm going to do with it yet. I might get a hat. I might do it as a hat or I might do it as a wall hanger. I haven't decided. That makes me terrified of a sea otter knowing that thing was 511 No sea otter kill you yeah Again, Noah defines this as a fishing That herds and captures the target species by towing a net along the ocean floor Steve is very Confident I think Brody likes his answer Randall doesn't have an answer. I'm iffy on mine I don't I'm not sure I like mine Okay, Randall probably the only
Starting point is 00:23:38 Should I change mine based on Steve's laughing at Randall could be genuine or don't change it I thought we were all wrong. Did you write yours on the brown side? I got a weird board. It's both sides. Our new boards are double sided. Is everybody ready? Oh no, I'm not. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Seth saying trolling. Steve says trolling. That's trolling. No, he said trolling. says that's trawl that's trawling now he said trolling no the problem I spelled it wrong the problem is that's another fishing activity
Starting point is 00:24:12 yeah this is trawling Seth says trolling Steve says trawling Randall says purse sayning. Mmm Says cast in bait. That's it Nate says drag netting Yanis says trawling Brody says trawling the correct answer is trawling about half of our players got it, right Are you gonna give it to him? I don't think we give it to you doesn't mean trolling. No He he means what are you going? He doesn't mean trolling. No he he means what are you going? Like a trawler, how would you spend howling doesn't matter? I know but if you spell another fishing technique, I know but he doesn't think we're trawling crankbait is what that is We'll give it to you Seth, but how would you spell trolling if you were pulling plugs for walleye?
Starting point is 00:25:00 Dude the same Spelling is not my thing. Okay, we'll give it to Seth. Now if he didn't know, like, there's a certain person that would have it and I would say, don't give it to him. Okay, would you give it to Brody if Brody wrote that? Yes. You would? Yes, because I know that he... I know that he knows what trolling is. Okay, so we will accept trolling or Trolls I can't
Starting point is 00:25:29 You're not accepting trolling you're only accepting a misspelled trawling. Yeah Misspelled trawling rather than him just putting down a fishing term. So at home and in rather than him just putting down a fishing term. So at home. And pray and spray. At home! If you said trawling, you're correct. If your answers are verbal, then you need to say trawling.
Starting point is 00:25:51 But why do you think so? But if you're writing it down. Why do you think that trawling and trawling share a spelling? I didn't think about it. Trawling is used to target a variety of seafood such as cod, halibut, rockfish, squid, shrimp, flounder, and crab. The fishing technique can be too effective, which results in piles of bycatch.
Starting point is 00:26:12 It's estimated that in the last 65 years, trawlers have unintentionally caught 500 million tons of non-target animals. Oh, it's, I don't mean to hack, but yeah, it's a very controversial fishing style. Question four, the topic is fishing, and this next great question is via Jeff Bowles. The Idaho Department of Fish and Game calls this hybrid their, quote, secret weapon for controlling populations of non-native fish. Brody.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Whoo, didn't even wait for the end. Son of a bitch, Brody. Brody. Didn't even wait for the end. Son of a bitch Brody already has his answer. This is question four. The topic is fishing. The Idaho Department of Fish and Game calls this hybrid their secret weapon for controlling populations of non native fish. Brody, the only player with an answer so far. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he's wrong.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Randall Boatcaptain. I never thought one. Is that a clue? Was trawling in your brain. Yes. Okay. Just not on your board. Yeah, I didn't like my answer as I previously suggested, especially after Steve shredded it. I thought he was trying to get you to change your answer. No, no. I could see there's genuine glee in his eyes
Starting point is 00:27:30 Fading fast right now, man The Idaho Department of Fish and Game calls this hybrid their quote secret weapon for controlling populations of non-native fish Brody is optimistic. Well, I'm so optimistic with an answer so far People call themselves anglers in this room. It's kind of a joke Well, it ain't walleye Nope, that's correct and Brody provided a hint saying he's never caught one of these Which I feel like is a pretty genuine hint. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:08 For the folks who know him. Betsy, you know our little deal we do now and then? Sure, yeah. We'll read out your crossed out answer as well as the answer that you're going with. Oh, you know what it could be? Could be that. Oh wow, he might have two crossed out answers. He's gonna write down every hybrid he can think of. Steve are you ready? I think we're waiting on you.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Yeah, go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Seth without an answer. We have Steve. He crossed out Tiger Muskie. He crossed out Cupbow bow and he wrote down like Randall says tiger musky Alyssa without an answer Nate says saw guy Yannis spake Brody tiger musky We have a correct answer It's tiger musky son of a bitch. You see that I had that he did Along with cut Bo and Splake. Tiger Muskie are a cross between Northern Pike and Muskie. They are strategically used across North America as a top-down biological control. The benefit of stocking Tiger Muskies is that they have a huge appetite,
Starting point is 00:29:21 are sterile, and provide more sport fishing opportunities. Question five. Wait are those are you running the perfect game right now? Yeah but we've only done like three questions. We've done four questions we will get a scoreboard update from Phil the engineer after this. Are the Muskies and Pike native to Idaho? No I don't there's no way Muskie are. Neither of mine. Yeah that's it surprised me that they would stalk them well. They're stairs, so you don't have to worry about Control question five and it's not just Idaho, Utah, Colorado. I think a lot of the Rocky Mountain states and elsewhere do it Question five the topic is cooking Taste of home magazine describes this vegetables flavor quote, a little bit sweet like garlic
Starting point is 00:30:06 and a little bit pungent like onions. This is question five, we'll get a scoreboard update for Steve from Phil after this. Taste of Home describes this vegetable's flavor as a little bit sweet like garlic and a little bit pungent like onions Steve you like your answer maybe he's going back to his whiteboard and doing some more writing I wouldn't mind you reading both for me okay is this
Starting point is 00:30:39 vegetable commonly found in the grocery store? Not going to give you any hints. Taste of Home describes its flavor as a little bit sweet like garlic and a little bit pungent like onions. But it means it's not a type of onion. Not giving you any hints. You need to think about what Taste of Home would be describing here. Yeah think about. Yeah, I'm not familiar with that magazine. Me neither. Taste of home magazine? I think you walk into any grocery store, it's gonna be one of the prominent cooking magazines on their shelf.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Why is it being read here at this program? Because I need to figure out a way to get you to give the right answer, and this is how I can assign a definition to somebody. If I were just to tell you, if I were to say this vegetable it's a cooking question and he's covering it by attributing it to another authority that's right where you can't argue with their direct quote the word I was looking for finally came to me I just like can't like I can picture the thing does anybody like their answer. I think I do I like both of mine, okay? Feel okay about what's on their whiteboard Nate Nate is now joining them with an answer
Starting point is 00:32:01 You like that do you two agree? Randall and Steve Yeah, I'm changing it. You like that do you two agree? Are you ready Brody? Yeah, I'm just like not gonna come Steve wrote down ramp cross that out and put shallot. Randall says shallot. It could be scallion too. Alyssa says scallion. Nate crossed out beet and put radish. Yanni says scallion and Brody says purple head onion.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Purple head onion. We have a correct answer. Oh It's shallot Randall and Steve Got that one right, you know what I put down ramp because I was like, you know, this is like an outdoor show But then I'm like sometimes he don't care shallots are in the same family as leeks chives garlic and onion Tastewome says in a pinch you can substitute a sweet onion for a shallot They're commonly used in salad dressings stocks egg dishes and pasta dishes felt
Starting point is 00:33:13 We're halfway through the game. Give us a scoreboard update. Oh Look at that one that come biting. We've got oh, yeah, you've been a while since you've been here I think we've been doing you're gonna love the big twist at the end. We've got Nobody telling the to do that. He did do that. Alyssa has zero points. Nate's coming up next with one. Seth has two.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Yannis has three. And tied up in first place are Steve, Randall, and Brody with four points apiece. We do save that otter question for the actual tiebreaker. We do a charade round for question nine now. Oh, you do? Yeah. Spencer, you act something out and we just have to answer. And then we have a filled up singing question
Starting point is 00:33:53 for question eight. It's true. So if he sang, he's the champion, then he knows me. That's right. You can't pee-pee. Question six, the topic is natural history what president spearheaded the Lewis and Clark expedition Nate Randall Yanni, excuse me Steve Brody all quick to answer what president spearheaded the Lewis and Clark expedition Throwing Randall a bone there, you know, he's a historian.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Hmm. How's, I mean, we should all know this. He says that as Seth and Alyssa have a blank whiteboard. It's part of our shared history. You're right about that. What president spearheaded the Lewis and Clark expedition This is question six the verb choices. Yeah, yeah, you think he was there Okay at the front
Starting point is 00:34:59 Steve's now complained about three of the six questions. Yeah so far I'm just pointing out it's like poor word choice. Alyssa, Seth, are you gonna come up with an answer? I think everyone's ready. Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth and Alyssa do not have an answer and the rest of the room says Thomas Jefferson. They got it. The correct answer is Thomas Jefferson. If he had said who conducted the Louisiana Purchase would you guys have got that? But he didn't conduct it he wasn't even in Europe when it happened. It happened under his administration.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Jefferson asked Congress to fund an expedition to the Pacific Ocean three months before France even offered the territory for sale. Word hadn't even gotten back to Jefferson yet about the Louisiana Purchase when he already had Meriwether Lewis prepping for the journey. So Steve, Jefferson thought they were going to Europe to buy the New Orleans port. He didn't know that they were going to buy the entire territory. I didn't know that. So your phrasing of the question would have been wrong. No. You said who-
Starting point is 00:36:07 I would have said what president was in office at the time- That's not what you just said though. I said spearheaded was a poor word choice. We don't need two of these in the room. Question seven, the topic is fishing. This next great question is via Aaron Welch. The American voter exam defines this seven-letter
Starting point is 00:36:27 word as quote, the cross section of the stern where you attach an outboard motor. He's the champion. But everyone's gonna get this. When we were in Yellowstone, the guy, Snowcoach driver was explaining how the three forks of the Missouri got their names and I forget, you know It's obviously Jefferson Madison and Gallatin and he said he said well, we all know who Madison and Jefferson are but do you know who Gallatin is and And you answered I did I did I said Secretary of the Treasury and he and he goes that's right Steve Gallatin
Starting point is 00:37:09 It's Albert Gallatin Did you correct? Do you know what Jefferson sent those fellas out there looking for? Well, I mean there was a number of things but one of the things I'm guessing you're referring to wooly mammoths. Yeah. Yeah of things but one of the things I'm guessing you're referring to wooly mammoths yeah yeah there's a lot of things to there's certain little tidbits in history that are off that are much trafficked mm-hmm that one being one of them sure I've trafficked that one again question seven the American voter exam defines this seven-letter word as the cross section of the stern where you attach an outboard motor
Starting point is 00:37:48 Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Seth and Steve and Randall saying transom Alyssa without an answer. Yeah, Nate says transom Yanis and Brody. She's got shallots The correct answer is transom. The transom's function is to strengthen the stern, absorb a motor's power, and keep water out of the boat. It's common to have motors, transducers, doors, ladders, and your boat's name placed on the transom. Question eight. The topic is gear. And this next great question is via Jacob Hubbard.
Starting point is 00:38:29 The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives goes by this acronym. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives goes by this acronym. This is what they call themselves. You go to their website. This is how they... I just read an article today that... What's her name? Lauren Barber. She wants to get rid of this. All four. So this is their official acronym. This is what they refer to themselves as. You to their website It says they're not out not this the commonly the history of this Okay, the Bureau of alcohol tobacco firearms and explosives goes by this acronym I was my only oh sorry going I was just on their website
Starting point is 00:39:19 An hour ago. Oh my only interaction with this Bought about suppressors. Yeah. That's my only interaction with them and if I didn't have to do that the world would be a better place we'd all have better hearing. So I'm into this idea of getting rid of them. Yeah. The branch Davidian compound. Lisa? compound Lissa And Go ahead and reveal your answers we have Seth and Steve saying ATF Randall says B ATF
Starting point is 00:39:59 Alyssa without an answer Nate the reason you won't get it right is they don't go Brody saying ATF The correct answer is ATF Randall did not Get I do that every time I just want to be done with it. That's what I do when I spell shit wrong So what you wrote I protest out when I spell shit wrong Randall Saw what you wrote Protest out of you on that one Randall You go to their website you argue with them like I said You know your piss I'm telling our listeners who may be upset
Starting point is 00:40:43 I thought I thought that they officially went by BATF and it was ATF was they officially go by the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Fire but on their website says history of ATF about ATF careers at ATF the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and explosives was originally the alcohol tax unit which was overseen by the IRS in the 1940s they were assigned firearms and in the 1950s they were assigned tobacco. This is when the acronym ATF was born. The agency was reassigned to the Department of Justice after 9-11 which is when they changed their name to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives
Starting point is 00:41:23 but despite their new name, the group still goes by their old acronym. Phil, we have two questions left. Give us a scoreboard update. It's a pretty close game. Unfortunately, Alyssa, Nate, and Seth cannot catch up, but Yannis and Randall are tied up with six, and Steven Brody tied up in first place with seven points. Question nine.
Starting point is 00:41:50 The topic is woodsmanship. Known as quote the morning starstar this is the brightest planet in our solar system room looks stumped Randall how do you feel about your answer I'm indifferent right now are you trying to google to make your last answer
Starting point is 00:42:22 correct I think there's an argument that could be made that we're all wrong for yes ATF. Yes No, you're on that you gave up on that dude care Do you don't mind him just using his phone Well, you watch what he's doing and then then we know that he's not looking up what the morning star is Again, this is question nine. It's woodsmanship known as the morning star. This is the brightest planet brightest by what measure? By every websites measure who says this is the brightest planet in our solar if you were they have a number I think this one's number is like a Minus four point seven or something like that
Starting point is 00:43:05 And then they have a number for the Sun and the moon as well Known as the Morningstar. This is the brightest planet in our solar system How many are there now eight or nine with the whole they ditched Pluto? Yeah, because you have to You didn't have to be that we have like a thousand Yeah, or eight eight, but you can't have nine You know how long that sucker takes to go around the Sun no 240 years Pluto Is everybody ready that's a little hey, no, I'm not ready. I'm thinking about that
Starting point is 00:43:46 Known as the morning star. This is the brightest planet in our solar system Going with my first one As observed from earth not gonna tell I mean what I'm saying I could be So, you know it do you know it Brody no, I mean I have Brody I'm looking about I'm looking at the brightest objects in the night sky and they say the the Sun shines at a magnitude in the night sky and they say the sun shines at a magnitude negative 26.7. The moon is a negative 12.7. So I don't know what that scale is, but it keeps saying magnitude. Hmm. Not going to tell you anymore. Is everybody ready? I don't think I got it right. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Seth saying Mars.
Starting point is 00:44:46 That's what I- Steve says Polaris. Polaris? I got all jacked out. That's what I had is Mars earlier. Randall says Mercury. Alyssa says Jupiter. Nate says Mars. He crossed out Jupiter. Oh my god. Yanni says Venus. Brody says Venus. We have a correct answer. It's Venus. Oh yeah. Brody and Randall got that one. That kind of mental flip up is unusual. I know. Brody and Yanni. I panic, but I never thought of Venus. Venus is one of the most vivid objects in the sky, which is why humans have used it for navigation for thousands of years. It's easiest to find in the morning and evening and can even be spotted at midday.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Venus is so visible because it's the closest planet to Earth and its thick clouds reflect sunlight. Phil give us one last scoreboard update. Sure thing. It's not over yet. It's not over yet But Brody is in first place with eight points Steve and Iannis are right behind him with seven points a piece. I had Venus and I erased it Question ten the topic is conservation Deserve the loss. Name three of the four states with California condors according to the Cornell lab
Starting point is 00:46:10 Name three of the four states with California condors So we have Brody in the lead and it is Randall and no no no in the lead and it is Randall and no no no Randall's out Steve and Janice have seven Janice are one point behind so we need Brody to get this wrong Yanni or and Steve to get this right to go to overtime name three of the four states with California condors yeah let's say Can we call it Chilean? So we have any wd-40? Former trivia question their official name is water displacement. God bro, you just not you should just throw the question So we can go to overtime man Who's going? No, because he's winning right behind no, I know that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:47:03 If you lose then all three of us we go To over that'd be so fun. We've never done an intentional like miss before that I know of yeah But I panicked on that one there and then the goal What was that thing you said about letting not letting your kids win? Character building named three of the four states with California condors, and this is you should do the overtime You know Spencer we weren't Reeves, and I just hosted a meteor experiences in Kansas over the New Year's And we played trivia a couple nights. Hmm. It is not the same game without the flavor text Well the game wouldn't exist if I had to put all that flavor text in there because then it would just be an encyclopedia
Starting point is 00:47:46 You could just make things up sure we treat we did that That's on the host to to provide the flavor tax then just chat GPT it Is everybody ready Brody how do you feel about your answer? Pretty good. Okay, Yanni. how do you feel about your answer? Good. Steve, go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Seth saying California, Nevada, Arizona.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Steve says California, Arizona, Nevada. Randall says California, Nevada, Oregon. Alyssa, California, Washington, Oregon. Alyssa, California, Washington, Nevada. Nate, California, Oregon, Washington. Giannis, California, Arizona, Nevada. Brody, California, Arizona, Utah. He crossed out Nevada. The four states are California, Nevada, Arizona, and Utah. Brody got it right,
Starting point is 00:48:51 making him this week's winner. There's even that cowboy junkie song about watching Venus rising. In the morning. There are about 350 California condors in the wild with more than half of them located in California, but sightings in eastern Utah and northern California have biologists hoping the bird could soon make its way into Oregon and Colorado. Brody, you are the winner. Where is that $500 donation? Barely. Man, I didn't really think about this yeah oh
Starting point is 00:49:29 oh he's never been in this position Steve you haven't been here for a while what should we do Steve is slumped over in his seat with a cracked whiteboard in front I'm just gonna do the mule deer foundation cuz I love mule deer okay he's wearing the mule deer foundation and he's gonna send $500 their way and I'm not clear is that black tail thing separate from mule deer now that new thing it's within yeah all right Brody you are you glad Steve is back you prefer he just say oh, you know we had a game rental It wasn't much of a challenge today, so I tried to thanks Spencer too close to the Sun
Starting point is 00:50:20 Crashing into the sea join us next week forater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. Yeah, Spencer from South Dakota, he's the host. Using those smooth mellow tones, he lays them questions down. And he likes taking those two and three year old bucks. And he likes taking those two and three year old bucks. And he's an avid amateur. Rockhound.

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