The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 668: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CXLXIII

Episode Date: February 26, 2025

Spencer Neuharth hosts MeatEater Trivia with Steven Rinella, Janis Putelis, Ryan Callaghan, Brody Henderson, Randall Williams, and Seth Morris. Connect with MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, ...Youtube, and Youtube Clips Subscribe to our new MeatEater Podcast Network on YouTube Shop Trivia MerchSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey American history buffs, hunting history buffs, listen up, we're back at it with another volume of our Meat Eaters American History series. In this edition titled The Mountain Men, 1806-1840, we tackle the Rocky Mountain beaver trade and dive into the lives and legends of fellows like Jim Bridger, Jed Smith, and John Coulter. This small but legendary fraternity of backwoodsmen helped define an era when the West represented not just unmapped territory, but untapped opportunity for those willing to endure some heinous and at times violent conditions. We explain what started the Mountain Man era and what ended it.
Starting point is 00:00:42 We tell you everything you'd ever want to know about what the mountain men ate, how they hunted and trapped, what gear they carried, what clothes they wore, how they interacted with Native Americans, how 10% of them died violent deaths, and even detailed descriptions of how they performed amputations on the fly. It's as dark and bloody and good as our previous volume about the white-tailed deer skin trade, which is titled The Long Hunters, 1761-1775. So again, you can buy this wherever audiobooks are sold. Meat Eaters American History, The Mountain Men, 1806-1840 by Steven Rinella. Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, this is the only game show where conservation always wins.
Starting point is 00:01:39 I'm your host Spencer Newarth and today we're joined by Steve, Yanis, Cal, Randall, Brody and Seth. This is episode one of the 2024 MeatEater Trivia Championship. This year's championship is unlike any we've done before, there are no playing games. Instead, we have the six players here who average the most points per game in 2024. This championship will span three episodes. Whoever has the most points after 30 questions will be declared the 2024 MeatEater Trivia Champion. So it's not clear. How close was number seven? Number seven. Beaten out. Oh, so Seth made the cut. He was the sixth person in the room. And then we had Nate, Corey and Hansi. So Seth's not just down here hanging out. No he's in the top six. I've earned it. Yeah congratulations Seth.
Starting point is 00:02:29 We talked about it before the mic, Seth could either be the small fish in the big pond which is this or he could be the big fish in the small pond which is the jabronis pool. So he said he likes this, why is that Seth? Why do you like being the small fish in the big pond? Because I have room to grow. That's right He's got room. Well picture. How old you? 33 picture when he's my age he'll be he'll he'll like be a trivia dominator cuz he's got all right He's absorbed more shit. Uh-huh. He does. I don't know if we have 20 years of this show to go but Like theoretically sure who did Seth beat out he beat out Nate who was seventh Cory who was eighth and Hansi who was ninth So Seth just made the cut the episodes matter then for the rest of the year
Starting point is 00:03:12 So keep that in mind when we're playing trivia and you want to make the cut for the championship I've got a little problem Nate. Oh, he's written his name boldly That's what Spencer likes. Uh-huh. What's your problem with Nate? So You know how he like cracked me about that. You can't say over I don't know if you're like you can't say over and out. Are you aware of this? Okay Yeah, everybody says over now some people have emailed me about this to the trivia inbox as well You can't say over now. Okay. He told me about that. Uh-huh. Are you gonna explain? Well, I don't know Yeah, if you're like, I think you need to define though, too.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Like there's a gajillion little kids run around with walkie talkies being like, Oh, it's people that it's people that watched all those seventies movies about truckers that say over and out. So on radio etiquette, when I say over, I'm saying I'm done talking. Go ahead. Right. Out is I'm gone. Leaving the conversation. So over and out, as you're saying, I'm done talking. Go ahead. I'm gone, leaving the conversation. So over and out is you're saying, I'm done talking, go ahead, I'm gone.
Starting point is 00:04:09 It's not a thing. You can't say over and out. Oh. As in if they were to say something. Yeah. So how would you communicate that I am done talking and I am leaving the conversation? Out is not over to you.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Or like, if let's say you're a weather guy and on news we're a news show and you're the weather guy and I go over to you Yanni. I wouldn't then cut your camera off. All right now throw it back to me Steve. What do you mean? Say you do the thing be like. Oh what our problem is? No just be like over well you can tell the problem yeah go ahead. We still have a problem. Well, then he also pointed out that a compliment sandwich is not named properly because the compliment is sitting between insults and a ham sandwich.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Where does the ham sit? Between the bread. Between the bread? Yeah, it's an insult sandwich. Oh, okay. And he was texting me the other day and he was saying third correction well no just like a
Starting point is 00:05:07 little problem I have one he was texting me there day and he said something like Roger he said like Roger comma we'll see you then okay he did that two weeks ago and I made a joke don't call me Roger to which he didn't reply it's really funny never seen an airplane so he did it again going, I made a joke, don't call me Roger. To which he didn't reply. It's really funny. He's never seen an airplane.
Starting point is 00:05:26 So he did it again. He says, he said something like Rog sounds good. I texted him again thinking he missed my joke the first time. And I said, don't call me Rog. Then in person, he comes up to me and says, I see that you're doing a thing about this Roger thing. I'm not replying to it. I just don't think it's funny. That's why Nate's not here today. I wish he was here. I would beat him. I like Nate. Nate really knows the way to Steve's heart.
Starting point is 00:06:02 It does? Yeah. feel like yeah you really appreciate people that come at you like Nate does. Yeah he introduced himself by talent correcting me about something. I was at the free table. Were you giving or taking? He just comes by and goes you know no he just told me something that was wrong. Again, it's quite the relationship you two have built and one last quick thing there's a little tension I didn't know this either just like a Marine Corps army thing with him and chili okay what I think Nate's an officer and yeah that's a lot of tension yeah and he's
Starting point is 00:06:42 like clean cut and Chili's kind of got the bad boys that are going right now They're a natural foil. There's a real Dick there's a real swing tension You know come out and I think Steve's made the tension We can make it this is wish I want your balance has gotten involved because he's Marine Corps Hmm, I'll have to ask right now you throw it back to me Steve say Alright the entire championship
Starting point is 00:07:10 sponsored by athletic brewing who met who will be matching meat eaters donation and sponsoring three money ball questions throw to me the Went what do you got okay? I'm gonna throw it to Steve real quick over to Steve Perfect right now you bring it back to me. Well, I gotta say something. I like their Chalada Nada. It's like a meat chalada, chalada, whatever. With no alcohol in it.
Starting point is 00:07:35 That's my drink, dude. Big fan. I don't have one in my hand right now, but that's my drink. Over back to me. The winner will get to choose where the $3,000 donation goes, the biggest in meat eater trivia history. And combined with the money ball questions, this year's championship has a donation potential of $4,500. Give it up for Athletic Brewing for their continued support of meat eater trivia and conservation. Yeah, $3,000 donation with potential for $1,500 more.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Are you gonna give the winner a t-shirt or anything? Well, you get your name on the plaque that we have outside of the studio here in our green room. It's got Brody's name on it, it's got Steve's name on it. No one looks at that plaque. We're gonna add a third name. They really don't. You know what we should do? You know how like in uh memorial gardens and stuff like that around towns, you can like sponsor a bench
Starting point is 00:08:30 and then put names on it? That's what we should do. A billboard maybe. Let's go bigger than that. A whole billboard. Oh, we have that one billboard. We do have a billboard. We can take it over.
Starting point is 00:08:39 That's right. All right, for the stat of the week this week, we're looking at last year's performance in the Meat E trivia tournament Steve one getting 16 of 20 questions Brody finished in second with 15 points Randall and third with 13 points Yannis and fourth with 11 points and Seth and fifth with 10 points That was what we're going off last year Steve got eight correct in each episode
Starting point is 00:09:03 Going with the proper name today. Oh wow. I'm gonna do proper game last year Steve got 8 correct in each episode. For today's IFAQ I want to address a previous IFAQ. Someone asked, what's the weirdest question I've ever gotten, to which I explained how strange it is that about 50 people have sent me faxes. Well a dozen of you wrote in with the same explanation for why that might be. Apparently the Amish and Mennonite communities use a service that converts a fax to an email. This is referred to as IFax and it bridges the gap between those without internet and those with internet. Typically it's used to conduct business or
Starting point is 00:09:40 in this case, send emails to a podcast. And that brings me to my next question, which is how are these folks listening to the podcast without internet? Well, there's a sneaky phone service out of Johnstown, Pennsylvania called the Podcast Reader. Here's what it sounds like when you call that hotline. Play the clip, Phil. Welcome to the Podcast Reader.
Starting point is 00:10:04 ABC News Press One. Play the clip, Phil. world and everything in at 12. Ben Shapiro 13 NBC Nightly 14. Apasa Cafe 15. Chasing Giants 20. Osterholm Report 21. ZDogg MD 22. Trim Healthy Mama 30. John Maxwell 52. Lumber Connection 53. Shed Geek 54. J Scott Outdoors 55. Knock on our tree 56. Meat Eater 57. Bear Grease 58. Welcome to This Country Life. I'm your host, Brent Reaves. That's what it sounds like if you call that hotline. That's great. And then hit 58 to listen to Bear Gryse.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Can I tell you my favorite Clay Newcomb Amish story? Yeah. Clay used to own a magazine, Bear Hunting magazine. Mm-hmm. And the magazine did really well with Amish hunters because it was a print magazine. So he had a Amish dude that did his distribution in his community.
Starting point is 00:11:23 And one day, Clay is trying to meet him to hand him the stack of magazines and they're trying to coordinate a meetup along the highway. So he's meeting this Amish guy and the Amish guy's got a driver that's driving him and the guy's got a cell phone though. And Clay's like, hey, we're going to be that whatever exit. And the guys goes, clay, I'll meet you at the adult superstore. They didn't have that content available. Clay said, let's just meet across from there at the gas station. Spencer, can I tell you my favorite Faxsimile story? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:06 So this is years ago when I'm doing all things first light and we were in heavy and dealer sales. And when you're heavy in dealer sales and you're opening up new dealers, you get calls to establish credit all the time. Okay. You get calls to establish credit all the time. Okay. Well one of our
Starting point is 00:12:32 Retailers had used first light as their credit reference to open up terms with a competing hunting clothing manufacturer a big one, okay, and I'm not totally falling explain this again, so you're a hunting dealer Yeah, like the way a lot of these things work is you don't pay for the clothing as soon as it comes in you get Net terms okay, so you get 30 days upon receipt of the goods to pay and Ideally in the retailers world you've sold enough of those goods
Starting point is 00:13:04 Okay, to pay for that wholesale markup or a good portion of it in that time. Now, the bigger you are, the more terms, the more favorable terms that you can demand, like 90 day, 120 day. But you gotta start somewhere and you do these credit checks, right? So one of our dealers had used first light as their reference.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Oh, so a very large, uh, hunting clothing manufacturer, their credit department or, or, uh, accounting department called me and they, in order to establish who we were, they said, yeah, do you know this dealer? And I'm like, yep, we work with them. Okay. How much are they buying from you? You know, and that's just like something that you don't reveal when you're competing businesses, right? Okay. And I was like, I can't tell you that, but, um, you know, guys, a good guy and they're like, well, that doesn't cut it. And they kept pressing and pressing and pressing. And then she became very demeaning.
Starting point is 00:14:14 It was like, well, you guys must be so small and you don't know how business works. And yeah, and yeah, and yeah, and yeah. And I was laughing to myself, but being polite. And eventually after saying how, we didn't know how things work and we were so small and all the things, she said, now what's your fax number?
Starting point is 00:14:39 And I just thought it was so fricking funny. And I'm like, well, we do a lot through digital these days. This is just something us tiny folks do. Did you have a fax machine on hand then? We had kind of the same deal. Like you had a number that would convert the fax into an email. Yeah. So besides the Ben Shapiro show, the Trim Healthy Mama
Starting point is 00:15:06 podcast, and Lumber Connections, the Amish have access to MeatEater and Bear Grease. Shout out to the folks who are listening to this exact episode via a hotline. I'm glad you're here and keep faxing in those questions. Alright last thing before today, I want to hear some predictions on who is going to be the 2024 champion Brody What do you think? No, I don't make those kind of predictions. That's you know, you got nothing No, I just want to know what Steve's drawing Steve. What are you drawing? And who do you think is gonna win? Well, I made my name and in a fire-breathing dragon. Okay, I ran out of space. So he's kind of puking. Uh-huh I like that a lot
Starting point is 00:15:47 I think that uh The defending champion like I'd like to win but if I had to guess I would guess that Randall Wow Now you didn't play a lot in 2024. You think that's gonna benefit you or hurt you bet? No hurt hurt hurt you just be a little rusty Cal. Who do you think's gonna win this year? I'm gonna go with Brody Wow all right going back to the OG champion Did he play enough though to have have like a minimum amount of games to qualify for this? He's the last year's champion. It gets an oh, that's right. That's how it works at the Masters Yeah, that's all I'm gonna say there's something like that in golf you get an auto bid Returning Randall who's gonna win this year?
Starting point is 00:16:21 I said myself last year, and I didn't so I'm gonna say Steve oh, okay. Yeah, he was gonna win. I'm going Seth What do you got for us? Got three votes for Seth One final note about the tournament. I've had all these questions fact-checked by our very own Dr. Jordan Sillers. So, I'm confident in their accuracy and that Steve won't have any complaints. That's right. He's our second doctor in the office. I don't know if you heard, but it's not quite public yet.
Starting point is 00:17:00 What? You're a doctor? Shhh. Okay. Stomach Valor. Is this an honorary? Shhh. Alright, the Shelby Index for today is a 4. So our winner should get 8 correct answers.
Starting point is 00:17:16 And with that, we're on to round 1 of the championship. Play the drop, Phil. Oh, I need to know why I stand to win. Everything. How's that? Good job Phil. Question 1. The topic is biology. This first great question is via Mitchell Prusa, and this will be multiple choice. What do you got Steve? I always like to be a look up there hmm We should be awkward if I'm staring at you the whole game. We shouldn't have sat you there I guess all right what comes between class and family in
Starting point is 00:18:00 Taxonomic ranking is it order? genus Kingdom or phylum? Topic is biology. What comes between class and family in taxonomic ranking? Is it order, genus, kingdom, or phylum? Alright, everybody ready I Think the batch of questions we have are on the harder side there'll definitely be some hundred percenters there might be some zero percenters Stop the game What's the matter broke okay? We've got a backup marker available for you there. We're not gonna derail the whole thing
Starting point is 00:18:44 We've got a backup marker available for you there. We're not going to derail the whole thing What comes between class and family and taxonomic ranking order genus kingdom or phylum? Long time since high school biology I was gonna say but you know the advantage of high school is you don't think about anything else your brain so much clearer It's like girls and nothing else in taxonomic rankings You know my high schooler one day last like when they says you know I'm gonna start doing good at school and like What was going on? Yeah, like what was going on before he just made that decision? It wasn't like that. It was like instant, all A's and B's.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Just one A's, you know what? He was thinking about other stuff. He just had to decide that he was going to do good. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Seth saying genus. Janus says genus. Randall says order. Cal, order.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Steve, order. Brody, order. The correct answer is order. Four of our six players got that one right. If you look at this the other way it actually looks like a gobbler. So how's it go?
Starting point is 00:20:04 I think it's a dragon with acid reflux. That's just how dragons work. The hierarchy is life, domain, kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, and species. Some examples of order are primates for humans, carnivora for coyotes, and galliformes for pheasants. You know how I knew that? How'd you know that?
Starting point is 00:20:27 They teach you this thing, King Philip, but I can't remember the rest. Kingdom phylum. And then I knew what some of that stuff was. And he got it right. Question two. The topic is cooking. What does MP stand for when listed as the cost of seafood or meat on a menu? What does MP stand for when listed as the cost of seafood or meat on a menu?
Starting point is 00:21:00 Our players all look confident this may be a 100% If you'd like to stick with red I've got another red Making pasta Making pasta? Oh that's what MP stands for exactly That's what Seth Pryor wrote No I put military and police What does MP stand for? Member Parliament?
Starting point is 00:21:22 With listed as the cost of seafood or meat on a menu. Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Seth and Janis and Randall and Cal and Steve and Brody saying market price. They got it. The correct answer is market price. Would you have accepted expensive? No. Market price implies that the listed item is subject to market fluctuations with the cost changing on a daily basis. It's most commonly used with lobster, crab, oyster, salmon, tuna and mushrooms. Besides accounting for price, the MP designation is meant to make it seem like the menu item is exclusive and seasonal.
Starting point is 00:22:03 The other day we ate our last chunk of King salmon and my, my boy looked up the price of a pound of King salmon. He's like, man, we made money on that. It's a good way to get rich. You don't have to take it to do it because you know, like menus are so full of it when it comes to fish descriptions. I just, now I'm like, can you explain that to me? You know, when you say that it's a whatever. Yeah. Servers must love you. Do you get a satisfying answer every time? Never, never. We have a, you know, New Zealand or
Starting point is 00:22:35 like Hawaiian, you know, I'll text friend like, are there blank in Hawaii? No. Are you sure that's what that is? Well, let me, uh, I'm not sure. Let me ask the chef. Question 3, the topic is hunting. These two words that are used to describe moon phases imply that the illuminated part is growing or shrinking. You need both. Both words. These two words that are used to describe moon phases imply that the illuminated part
Starting point is 00:23:05 is growing or shrinking. Some optimistic players again, except for maybe Steve. Well give me a minute. Okay, we're gonna give him a minute. This is question three, the topic is hunting. These two words that are used to describe moon phases imply that the illuminated part is growing or shrinking. Seth, do you have this one right? I think so.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Steve, do you have this one right? Yeah, buddy. Is everybody ready? Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Seth saying waxing and waning, Janice and Randall and Cal and Stephen Brody with the same answer.
Starting point is 00:23:49 The correct answer is waning and waxing. A waning moon is one that is growing while a waxing moon is one that is shrinking. You can tell if a moon is waning or waxing by looking at what side is illuminated. No, no, no, no, no, no. What do you got? Waning? Isn't that shrinking? Yes. No, no, no, no, no. What do you got? Waning.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Isn't that shrinking? Yes. Oh, I'm sorry. I had it backwards. Good catch, Steve. I didn't have Dr. Jordan Siller's fact check. My flavor text. Which one's better for killing a whitetail, Yannis?
Starting point is 00:24:17 I don't know. You can tell if a moon is waning or waxing by looking at what side is illuminated in the northern hemisphere If the right side is illuminated then the moon is waning or growing and if the left side is illuminated stop saying that Yeah, you're right Japanese script you read Japanese script backward. Mm-hmm. That's how the... Unless you're Japanese. If the person teaches school, listen kids, we do it backwards. I don't trust any of my flavor texts for this thing, so I'm just going to tell you to go read the Wired to Hunt article on themedeater.com called New Research Confirms the moon doesn't affect deer movement
Starting point is 00:25:08 Question four the topic is fishing but Mark believes that it does Now I've been in touch with him recently about it because we're getting ready to have Dr. Ross and Strickland on and he described himself as moon curious Future Mediator episode question four the topic is fishing this is our listener question of the week which was won by Charlie Kuber presenting this great question Charlie is going to get a board game signed by the crew if you want a chance to win the listener question of the week then send your question to trivia at the meat eater.com. Merriambster defines this 11 letter word as quote, an expanse of water with many scattered islands. Merriam-Webster defines this 11 letter word
Starting point is 00:25:54 as an expanse of water with many scattered islands. This is question four. Randall, you have this one right? I do. I hope so. Okay. Steve looks confident. I've been reading a lot about the war in the Pacific. Shut up! Islands? That's not a stretch.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Okay. I don't like any kind of that chit chatty clue given. Brody, do you have this one? We've all got a lot more comfortable with that in your absence. Okay, I like any kind of that chit-chatty clue given Brody do you have this wall got a lot more comfortable with that in your absence? I got a tidbit for you when you're ready I'm ready. What do you call them? flavor text yeah Go for me. Well, I'm not gonna give it now. Oh, it's about this question. You're saying okay, Yanni you have this one, right? I Came up with an 11-letter word word but I'm not sure about my spelling. Okay. There ain't too many 11 letter words I bet. 11 letter word is
Starting point is 00:26:51 defined as an expanse of water with many scattered islands. Cal and Seth do not have an answer quite yet. Come on Seth I bet on you. I know as soon as I hear it I'm gonna be pissed but I can't think about it. Keep thinking just keep thinking. You know back to the moon thing and rap bringing it around to Clay. Clay and I had a long conversation their day about scent control. Does he believe in the moon? Nope. Doesn't believe in the moon for deer. But he grew up with an ardent, his father was ardently into scent control. Like to the point where it drove, he thinks it drove his two brothers away from deer hunting.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Like eating apples up in the tree and stuff like that. I don't know about, no, I think more about the clothing and doing all that. But now Clay thinks that it's just like, you just believe it to believe it. Right? Like it's a bunch of hooey. I mean like the wind is scent control and that's it. Yeah. But then I see on Instagram yesterday, that Clay can walk around to two coat hangers and find water
Starting point is 00:28:06 Yeah, but we're like he's real Dude I've spent more time with him on those wires. It's not real It just people are so interesting that you can so clearly say In any kind of like controlled circumstance, They can't do better than random. Yep But I've done it doing it messes with your head We wrote about it in the kids book crayfish. I've gone out with them with the wires It messes with your head. It's supposed to be like a divining rod or He doesn't like to call it a witching rod because it's like makes it seem little Cal. Do you have any?
Starting point is 00:28:53 seem low. Cal, do you have an answer? I can't think. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Seth and Cal without an answer. Then we have Janice, Randall, Steve and Brody saying archipelago. Yeah, I wouldn and the Virgin Islands. Most archipelagos are formed by volcanoes, glaciers, or erosion. These island chains are often rich with life that's unique to what's found on the mainland. And the Aleutians. Yeah, that's what my tip is about. I named all of those. The Ring of Fire.
Starting point is 00:29:24 In John McPhee's Pulitzer Prize winning Annals of the Former World. Mm-hmm. He explains that in 80 million years Japan will have accreted the Aleutian Archipelago and docked it up against Alaska. Hmm. Isn't that wild? It's how time works. Question five! I'm excited to see that.
Starting point is 00:29:50 The topic is conservation. Cat wants to be there when it hits. That's going to be all over Instagram. The Greater Wynwood Exotic Animal Park, which was the focus of the Tiger King documentary, was located in this state. Oh buddy, I don't know. Question 5, the topic is conservation.
Starting point is 00:30:12 The greater Wynwood exotic animal park, which was the focus of the Tiger King documentary, was located in this state. This is one of those questions that really wanders outside the boundaries. I hate this kind of shit. I don't know what the hell I'm watching. I'll tell you in the flavor text why it's so relevant. I don't really care. The Greater Wynwood Exotic Animal Park, which was the focus of the Tiger King documentary, was located in this state. Who hasn't seen Tiger King in here? Steve? Okay, Steve Brody and Cal have not seen Tiger King. I recorded a podcast with Seth about Tiger King.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I know. Remember that? Oh. Be honest, you've seen it? But I still don't remember. You need to tell me what state that greater Wynwood Exotic Animal Park was located in. There's several states that allow for this type of stuff to happen. Okay. You got to narrow down to a few yeah, what's amazing is that that gal?
Starting point is 00:31:10 Carol Baskin yeah, oh Cal knows her, but he hasn't seen the show well. She's real involved. Yeah, yeah Jack ass or anti-hunting Is everybody ready? Cal you ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Seth saying Oklahoma. Yanis says Florida. Randall says Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Cal, Oklahoma. Steve, Texas. Brody, Texas. The correct answer is Oklahoma. Whoa. Cal Randall and Seth got that one right. Who else, who, is anybody here got a perfect? We'll find out here after this.
Starting point is 00:31:52 This is question five. Joe Exotic owned the zoo for 17 years. It was purchased by Jeff Lowe in 2016. Then a court ordered that it be given to Carol Baskin in 2020. She has since sold the property. Joe Exotic is currently serving a 21 year sentence for one count of murder for hire,
Starting point is 00:32:10 eight counts of Lacey Act violations, and nine counts of Endangered Species Act violations. So he didn't get his pardon. He has not gotten his pardon yet, but he sure works on Trump for that. He leans on it pretty hard. He had a pretty- Dude, I think the presidential pardon was such a mistake
Starting point is 00:32:28 and it's a national disgrace. Now I'm talking everyone. Rarely does someone get pardoned. I'm like, oh cool. Joe Exotic fall under that. If they could get a country music star that Reagan- I would love to have the presidential party go away. It is just a national embarrassment Reagan pardoned a country music star like basically based off of fandom and the lyrics But his like the type of person that that was was like a walking serial killer Yeah, and it was like well people seem to love the music So Brody Joe Exotic had 17
Starting point is 00:33:08 Violations I got you. I just didn't like it cuz I don't know it fell. We're halfway through round one. Give us a scoreboard update Here's where it stands gents. We've got Seth and Janice tied up with three points Cal Steve and Brody all have four points apiece and Randall Williams is in first place with a perfect game and five points. This weighs heavily on me. I'd probably be doing better too if I just sat around watching TV all day. It was on the Cocaine and Rhinestones podcast. I'll look it up after the game. Sorry, I'm a little busy. Are you dialing into the podcast hotline Cal? Oh yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:33:47 If you guys haven't listened to cocaine and rhinestones, I mean, it is a fantastic bar. I didn't hear that one on the Amish hotline. Yeah, it's great. It's David Alan Coe's kid. Oh, wow. Hey, American history buffs, hunting history buffs. Listen up.
Starting point is 00:34:02 We're back at it with another volume of our Meat Eaters American History series. In this edition, titled The Mountain Men, 1806-1840, we tackle the Rocky Mountain beaver trade and dive into the lives and legends of fellows like Jim Bridger, Jed Smith, and John Coulter. This small but legendary fraternity of backwoodsmen helped define an era when the West represented not just unmapped territory but untapped opportunity for those willing to endure some heinous and at
Starting point is 00:34:35 times violent conditions. We explain what started the mountain man era and what ended it. We tell you everything you'd ever want to know about what the mountain men ate, how they hunted and trapped, what gear they carried, what clothes they wore, how they interacted with Native Americans, how 10% of them died violent deaths, and even detailed descriptions of how they performed amputations on the fly. It's as dark and bloody and good as our previous volume about the white-tailed deer skin trade which is titled The Long Hunters 1761 to 1775. So again, you can buy this wherever audiobooks are
Starting point is 00:35:15 sold. Meat Eaters American History The Mountain Men 1806 to 1840 by Steven Rinella. 1840 by Stephen Renoir. Question 6. The topic is Natural History. Daniel Freeman was the first to take advantage of this law, which was signed by Abe Lincoln to give public land to private citizens. Brody and Randall already have their answer for question six. Daniel Freeman was the first to take advantage of this law, which was signed by Abe Lincoln to give public land to private citizens.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Steve with a loud answer over there. Now you're giving a hint to your competitors about how much writing you're doing there. It says Reagan pardoned Merle Haggard. There you go. Well, I agree with that. I actually agree with that. It wasn't Merle.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Maybe I had that screwed up with somebody else. That's the only time I've ever been like, oh good. Please don't think that I was talking about Merle Haggard. I want to go on the record that that's the one time I've been like, oh, that's a good idea. I want to go on the record that that's the one time I've been like, Oh, that's a good idea. Daniel Freeman was the first to take advantage of this law, which was signed by Abe Lincoln to give public land to private citizens. I mean, what kind of weird authority? Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Not, not this. If it went to the Supreme court, if each case in the vote and you had to get a majority vote from the Supreme Court After being nominated by the president I could get on board but like just give someone unilateral like on the way out the door Sure Unilateral sure let him go or on the way in the door. Yeah on the way in the door. It's just especially the Part where you're gonna walk. Oh, yeah, and it'd be like, oh, I don't know. Maybe he did something wrong if he did he's pardoned It's kind of like it's kind of like the Super Bowl halftime show of presidential administrations Just like this weird novelty that you know is gonna pop up. I wonder who's gonna get it this year Yeah, everybody ready
Starting point is 00:37:16 Go ahead and reveal your answers We have Seth and Janice and Randall and Cal and Steve and Brody saying the Homestead Act. They got it. The correct answer. But this isn't the Homestead Act that everybody thinks about though. What's your problem, Steve? He wrote Homestead. So did you.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Look at yours. No. No, he didn't write. I was just saving time. He didn't write Act. The Homestead Act was created in 1862. It allowed any citizen who had never taken up arms against the U.S. government to claim 160 acres of public property.
Starting point is 00:37:53 In return, that person had to live on the property, build a home and farm the land for five years. About 270 million acres, where 10% of the United States was claimed under the Homestead Act Was it a per person or per family thing? Most I think you had to be over 21 years old so that probably cut off from you know Everybody had a family at 21. We got a new one. We got a new one just introduced in the Montana legislature Yeah, which is selling off state parcels under 100 acres., only available to folks who've been in the state for ten years. Yep, and the maximum acreage is five.
Starting point is 00:38:32 So kind of a funny one. You cheering for that one? No. Question seven. Sounds like a lot of pheasant hunting spots going on. Yeah, exactly. Question seven. The topic is conservation. This is the athletic brewing moneyball question of the week for every correct answer provided. Athletic Brewing is going to make a $100 donation that's capped at $500. This week, Athletic Brewing is giving to the National Wild Turkey Federation. Here is your moneyball question. What federal agency directly manages national grasslands?
Starting point is 00:39:04 What federal agency directly manages national grasslands? This is question seven. The topic is conservation. What federal agency directly manages national grasslands? This is our moneyball question. So for every correct answer, capped at five correct answers, we're making a $500 donation to athletic brewing. Excuse me, via athletic brewing to NWTF. I wish I had some athletic brewing to celebrate this moneyball question, but it's just so
Starting point is 00:39:42 darn good I drank it already. We can get you another one after this. Perfect. to celebrate this moneyball question, but it's just so darn good. I drank it already. We can get you another one after this. Perfect. Do you have this one right, Randall? I do. With confidence. Yes. I think you look like you're the only one who is very confident about this one.
Starting point is 00:39:59 What federal agency directly manages national grasslands? agency directly manages National Grasslands. Our other five players are leaking confidence. I got two down. Okay. Wow. I need to scratch one off. You boys ready? Sure.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Steve, I think we're waiting on you. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Seth saying the National Park Service. Janice says the National Park Service. Randall says the U.S. Forest Service. Cal says the U.S. Forest Service and the USDA says U.S. Fish and Wildlife. Oh, sorry. And you.
Starting point is 00:41:00 I scratched that. OK, he says the USDA erased the line through it. Well, that wasn't intentional. Sorry, I'm not. Fish and Wildlife Service. Okay, he says the USDA. He erased the line through it. Mm-hmm. Well, that wasn't intentional. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to screw with anybody. I said USDA. We have Steve saying the National Park Service. He crossed out BLM.
Starting point is 00:41:14 We have Brody saying the National Forest Service. He crossed out USDA and Department of the Interior. The correct answer is the U.S. Forest Service. I think we had what? Three of our players? I think only Randall and Brody. Just two of them. So that's a $200 donation from Athletic Brewing going to NWTF. Sorry, Turkey Federation. The Forest Service manages 20 national grasslands, most of which stretch from North Dakota to Texas. These areas make up 4 million acres, which is bigger than Connecticut. National grasslands are managed similar to national forests and are often open to hunting,
Starting point is 00:41:53 fishing, grazing, and mineral extraction. You know what's weird about them though, is you roll through them and you think you can jump out of the car and shoot an antelope and you can't in a lot of places. It's like people are running ranches and farms on the grasslands. A lot of times I get them wrong and I didn't really get them wrong. You just got this one wrong. This one I just got wrong. I feel like National Grasslands on Onyx are purple. I could be wrong. I think you're right. That's what made me do National Park Service. Question eight. the topic is cooking.
Starting point is 00:42:28 This next great question is via Patrick John Reilly. Bon Appetit defines this six letter word as quote, a naturally occurring thickener and stabilizer, helping jams, jellies and fruit preserves set. A confident room on this one they've gotten their swagger back bone appetit six-letter word as a naturally occurring thickener and stabilizer helping jams jellies and fruit preserves set. I can picture the word Randall can't get it. Steve has pointed out Randall has a blank whiteboard. Randall can't get it.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Are you picturing it backwards like the Japanese do? Yes. I'm starting with the jam or jelly and then pulling it apart in my head. This is question eight of round one. Time to play. Cal, do you have this one right? I think so. Six letter word, a naturally occurring thickener and stabilizer.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Let's show him. Jams, jellies and fruit preserves. Randall, how you doing down there? I don't know if I'm going to get it. If this keeps up Okay, keeps up. Let's just wrap our There's gotta be some kind of cutoff He don't have it
Starting point is 00:43:56 No sense of sitting around waiting now. He's writing something. They're getting to him. No Let's hustle. Okay, Randall. Let's give seconds. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. You remember this Randall for the next time you're sitting on an answer and Steve isn't. I thought I was very polite and low key about the last question. Bon appetit. You don't got a six letter word as a naturally. Well, now we're just sitting around the real. Now it's like really dragging. Jams, jellies, and fruit preserves set. I'm gonna flip mine over. Is everybody ready?
Starting point is 00:44:30 Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Seth and Randall without an answer. Yannis, Cal, Steve, and Brody say pectin. They got it. The correct answer is pectin. Why does it make me happier than getting one right? Ain't no archipelago. I'll tell you that. Was that answer there somewhere?
Starting point is 00:44:50 It was. Okay. Not quick enough though. Pectin is found naturally in fruits and vegetables, but there are also commercial options. When heated with sugar and acid, pectin forms a mesh that traps liquid. And as it cools, it sets and suspends pieces of fruit.
Starting point is 00:45:07 To see pectin in action, watch our Wild and Whole video on TheMeatEater.com called How to Make Jelly. However long it took Steve to write that down was as long as I had to think about the question. I understand. Because you started heckling him afterwards. True, he says. I understand. Because you started heckling them afterwards. Oh, that's true. True, he says. Question nine. The topic is fishing.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Located in the Sierra Nevadas, this is North America's largest Alpine Lake. We're going to hold off on a scoreboard update until after question ten in this round. I wonder what the answer is.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Do you know the answer? Yes. The points will roll over into episodes 2 and 3. We're on question 9. Located in the Sierra Nevadas, this is North America's largest alpine lake. Randall is confident our other players are not. Oh, I've got an answer. Okay, but are you confident?
Starting point is 00:46:13 Well, yeah, because it's the only thing that's in my brain right now. This is question nine. I know something that lives in it. Question nine of 30 questions. I was about to write that down before he finished the question. Wow. I thought you know the answer. Yeah, I thought it was a question about animals though. Do you know the answers?
Starting point is 00:46:32 I'm going to write down what's in it. Okay. But as a reminder, we're looking for the name. Water. North America's largest alpine lake. Yanni, how we doing? I have an answer. Randall, would you like to fill this silence with some poking? I mean, I've spent some time in the Sierra Nevada, Spencer.
Starting point is 00:46:56 OK, I had a gold section of the trail through Kings Canyon, said or et cetera. There's a fire. or said or there's a fire ran up there's a fire no there was a fire the man made like yeah how do I do it Phil I just go yeah this is the the
Starting point is 00:47:24 more of a Nyehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe hehehe hehehe hehehe hehehe hehehe hehehe hehehe he he he is everybody ready Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have said, say, Come on, that's it? Crater Lake. Giannis says Whitney. Randall and Cal say Tahoe. Steve says Golden Trout. But that's not even right. Brody says Tahoe.
Starting point is 00:47:56 The correct answer It's double wrong. is Lake Tahoe. You got it. Brody, Cal, Randall. Get that one right. That's what they kill a guy in there and the end of Godfather 3 or 2. Veto.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Sure. Measured by volume, Lake Tahoe is the biggest lake in America that's not a Great Lake. It is 1,645 feet deep, making it second only to Crater Lake as the deepest lake in the country. Lake Tahoe has lake trout brown trout rainbow trout Cutthroat trout kokanee salmon and a variety of warm water species first time I went to Lake Tahoe This is just a story specifically to embarrass my little sister we came in from the south super windy Road real pretty and
Starting point is 00:48:42 The cop puked all over the back seat. Okay. Your sister's the cop. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You got to go. Now here's a correct answer review for our listeners at home.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Shit in the bed over here. One was order two marketplace three waning and waxing for archipelago five Oklahoma six, the homestead act seven U S forest service Service, 8, Pekton, 9, Lake Tahoe. Here's question 10. The topic is hunting. This province calls itself Land of the Living Skies with Ducks Unlimited declaring it, quote, the continent's most important breeding area for dabbling ducks. This province calls itself Land of the Living Skies with Ducks Unlimited, declaring it the continent's most important breeding area for dabbling ducks.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Seth, quick to answer. Seth, do you have a guess or do you know this one? I have a guess. Okay, we're going to get a scoreboard update from Phil after this see how our players are doing after round one of the three round trivia championship. This province calls itself land of the living skies with Ducks Unlimited declaring it the continent's most important breeding area for dabbling ducks. Is everybody ready? No. My wife's taking tennis lessons and she got yelled at for swearing too much. They talked about swearing too much. Okay. What are some examples of the words that she uses?
Starting point is 00:50:17 You're more of a pickleball player. What are the words that she swears with start with? The one that got her was was not a terrible one, okay? Yeah, just like a sh. Mmm real loud Wow, but she said with most swings You know lately when people been dropping the Frig on me if you notice like it's become a thing in our society in our culture you haven't noticed this I mean, it's always been around depends who you're hanging out with what the the real f-bomb no frig frig Look a frigate. I feel like that's been around for yeah, Frick Frigg. We tell our kids you can't do that It's the same as doing it. Okay. Yeah
Starting point is 00:50:59 I feel like it's become more of a thing where like people that I know that don't ever use The real f-bomb sure now walk around very loosely saying frig and then I stopped them in conversation now and go You know what when you say that I think you're saying placeholder and not frig now Please now our kids run around going gaff I Don't gaff Hells end. Oh give a going gaff. I don't gaff. The hell's that mean? Give a... Oh, it's like, come on.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Good for them. You know what? I applaud that. You say the only gaff in this house is something you grab a halibut with. Does everyone have an answer for the province that calls itself land of the living skies, and it's the continent's most important breeding area for dabbling ducks? Go ahead and reveal your answers. I put a little joke into mine. We have Seth. Ooh, Brody. And Janice.
Starting point is 00:51:49 And Randall, saying Saskatchewan. Cal, says Ontario. Steve says Saskatchewan, what's that say? Cat, scratch. Well, I remember Nugget was filming a show there one time. Huggletown, he called it Cat Scratchewan. He said, I was very, I also wrote Saskatchewan. And Brody crossed out Saskatchewan. It was a very blousy road. Saskatchewan. Brody crossed out Saskatchewan and wrote down Manitoba.
Starting point is 00:52:09 The correct answer is Saskatchewan. I think we had four of our players. That pains me so much because Saskatchewan is so badass for Waterfowl. I've just never ever heard anybody say it's the land of the living sky. That's what they call themselves. Tourism Saskatchew. That's what they call themselves tourism Saskatchewan tourism Saskatchewan Farmers in Saskatchewan tourism Saskatchewan says the land of the living skies moniker is because of their northern lights beautiful sunsets and
Starting point is 00:52:40 migrating birds some estimates say half of the continent's waterfowl Migrating birds some estimates say half of the continent's waterfowl migrate to or through the province What makes a Saskatchewan so duck and goose friendly is its shallow water lakes and grain production? Phil we just wrapped up round one give us a scoreboard update Here's where it stands. We have Seth in last place currently with five points Coming up next is Yanis Puchelis with six. Tied up with seven points a piece are Ryan Callahan and Steven Rinella, they have seven. How embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Next up is Brody with eight and in first place, just one point ahead of Brody, Randall Williams has nine points. It goes to 30. Of 30 questions we have, and then we'll do three tiebreakers. No reason to panic yet. If we have a tiebreaker. have a time of a minor panic at the end of those 30 Just this game. No, no, no, this is the end of episode one
Starting point is 00:53:32 Oh, we're gonna take a break and we're gonna come back and record episode two and as a reminder the scores Will carry over to episodes two and three and thanks to athletic. I'm not saying anything the next game. Thanks to Helping make this donation meat-eater trivia history $200 to nwtf for that money ball question. I'm gonna silent Bob at that whole game I'll believe it when I see it this episode went long. I think we burned up all of our banter So I bet next episode will go quicker Join us next week for more meat-e trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. Yeah, Spencer from South Dakota, he's the host.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Using those smooth mellow tones, he lays them questions down. He likes taking those two and three year old bucks. He's an avid amateur rock hound. Hey American history buffs, hunting history buffs, listen up. We're back at it with another volume of our Meat Eaters American History series. In this edition titled The Mountain Men, 1806 to 1840, we tackle the Rocky Mountain beaver trade and dive into the lives and legends of fellows like Jim Bridger, Jed Smith, and John Coulter.
Starting point is 00:54:58 This small but legendary fraternity of backwoodsmen helped define an era when the West represented not just unmapped territory but Untapped opportunity for those willing to endure some heinous and at times violent conditions We explain what started the mountain man era and what ended it We tell you everything you'd ever want to know about what the mountain men ate how they hunted and trapped what gear they carried what clothes They wore how they interacted with Native Americans, how 10% of them died violent deaths and even detailed descriptions of how they performed amputations on the fly. It's as dark and bloody and good as our previous volume about the white-tailed deer skin trade,
Starting point is 00:55:42 which is titled The Long Hunters 1761 to 1775. So again, you can buy this wherever audiobooks are sold. Meat Eaters American History The Mountain Men 1806 to 1840 by Stephen Rinella.

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