The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 684: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CLVIII

Episode Date: April 2, 2025

Janis Putelis guest hosts MeatEater Trivia with Spencer Neuharth, Randall Williams, Ryan Callaghan, Brody Henderson, Reva Hansen, Roman Schnobrich, and Eric Hamburg. Connect with MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, and Youtube Clips Subscribe to our new MeatEater Podcast Network on YouTube Shop Trivia MerchSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Get fully geared up this season with the best Turkey calls in the game. Check out the full lineup at Phelps game calls.com and make every call count. account. It's the Meat Eater Podcast. Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your host, Janis Patelis. The damn script says Spencer Newhart, Spencer. I noticed that too. Sorry. I thought that was a-

We're not gonna start again. I'm still Janis Patelis, and today we're joined by Spencer Randall, Brody Cal, Roman Riva, and Eric Hamburg. Eric, this is your first time on the show. Tell folks what you do here at MeatEater. I work at the MeatEater store in downtown, and I go to college at Montana State. You grow a lot of hair too, it looks like.

That's what I'm known for. Yeah. Yep. I was wondering if it was one of those hats At Montana State you grow a lot of hair to it looks like that's what I'm known for yeah Yeah, I was wondering if it was one of those hats Wondering where you can find one yeah the first time The first time Steve met me he referred to me as the kid that needed a haircut Dating are you old enough to be dating yeah? Are you old enough to be dating? Yeah? Yes. Do you feel like the hair

helps you in the in dating world or The other direction I've had the same girlfriend for almost two years and she has curly hair too. So I'd say it helped Okay, nice. What age do you think you need to be to start dating Yanni? Oh I don't know Somewhere in early to mid high school, I guess. Okay. So college. He's in college. So college.

Yeah. He was already telling me the other day to keep my boy away from his daughter and they're like super young. Super young. Oh wow. Yeah. My girls like to talk about boys. I don't know if your boys like to talk about girls. No. Yeah, but I know. No, no, no.

Oh yeah, yeah. Alright. about boys I don't know if your boys like to talk about girls. Eric said they listened to they put all the trivias on the TV at the store and he said it's usually a pretty poor performance though who's the best at the store? I'd say Cade we had high hopes for Cade and he showed up yeah he got four yeah strong start see we'll see made a strong start now how do you usually do? What are your what's your gut say you're gonna do today? I? Get a lot of random questions right like the ones that people in the store don't get right

I usually get right, but we'll see I'm known as the slow one in the store Hairy one in the slow one a promising I Like a humble fella The hairy one and the slow one. A promising. I like a humble fella. A promising resume. Gotta be honest. This is a 10 round quiz show with questions from Meat Eaters Four Verticals, which are hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking.

And there's a prize. Meat Eater will donate $500 to the conservation organization of the winner's choosing. Now on to stats. For the stat of the winner's choosing. Now on to stats. For the stat of the week, we're looking at scores from previous times I hosted. The first two times, the average player's score was 3.3. Those are hard questions.

The average winning score was six. But last time I hosted, the average player's score was 4.4, and the winning score was 9 What do you think the winning score will be today? You said there's no Jennifer index No, but man, I really felt like I was I was trying to I almost went 100% Multiple choice. Oh, yeah to really make it just nothing my softball. You don't have one out of four chance You know you wanted the smartest class in the school I don't know if the multiple choice is like an automatic softball unless you wrote them that well, it makes you feel good though

I'm playing you're like I got one out of four right? No one has to show a blank board like I feel like Spencer used to write the Multiple choice question as a softball, but I don't think that's the case Hmm, that's it's usually the last question to come in a script And so if I need a harder question in there then it's harder and if it's an easy round Or excuse me if it's a hard round then I'll make it easier. So no I Wrote this whole thing between the hours of like midnight and nine today. So I don't have all that I'm kidding I still didn't write it quite as detailed as Spencer would have all right on to IFAQ which stands

for and frequently asked questions segment or as I refer to it the Spencer wants to talk about a subject but is unsure if the crew will think it's cool segment if you have a trivia related question for our crew send it to trivia at the meat eater comm with the subject line IFAQ in caps IFAQ But don't get your hopes up because unless Spencer also is interested in your question We're probably not gonna air it well one a week one a week so this question comes from Bob Burns Probably a name Spencer made up on episode

653 you have a question about military land I'm active duty at Fort Stewart and was wondering if anyone at meat eater has ever hunted military land I do often but was wondering about your take on it. I Have not know you have though. I know oh I never thought that I never have No, no one I have a friend that does a bunch he's actually he's also stationed at a I don't know if it's called a base or a Ford or whatever but because he knows about the system he's always like oh, yeah

I was in Texas hunting this military place installation Then we went on a trip in California and hunted this sounds like there's good opportunities, but no one Randall You've never done. No never I mean I'm familiar with some of the opportunities, but I've never done it myself What are the things that someone who's never hunted it is that there's like a few more hoops to jump through, which eliminates some folks from like going through that process. Similar to in Montana, you have private land that becomes public access through the BMA program.

And there's two types. And one type requires more legwork than the other one. And that one tends to keep more people out. And I'm sure military ground is the same way. Just be my guess. Anybody else got anything to say about that? Cal, you're a well-traveled fellow. I feel like probably a lot of people who have hunted Montana have hunted on

military land, it just, uh, isn't a full functioning base anymore. Mm-hmm There's I heard about one recently in Montana, but I'm not gonna mention it for fear of blowing up a spot Yeah, I wouldn't do that either Yeah, no there there's we Got quite a ways down the Permissions We got quite a ways down the permissions rabbit hole to hunt on the military installation in Guam last year. Wow. Yeah.

So we were going to hunt pigs and what do they have there? A fallow deer? No. What's the, yeah, maybe it is a fallow deer. Yeah. Yup. Yup. Yup.

Real easy to do with archery equipment. Uh, you definitely got to jump through some more hopes and, uh, and then, you know, so like Ibex, did Steve do on base? He did, he did off base or, or, or X. Yeah, he was off. Um, one thing that you have to do is you have to take an ordinance test so you can be like oh that's ordinance on the ground I need to tell people where it is and avoid it it's a little little test who

that's spooky yeah a little bit of a. Don't walk around in the dark. Oh look, another IFAQ. This one sent in from Albert Gallatin. Huh. Secretary of the Treasury? Wow. I don't know, it's almost like someone just made this up. Al asks, are you guys going to have any new cooking content soon?

I haven't seen a good cooking show since Pardon My Plate. Oh, well, that one was okay. Thanks, Bill. Just so happens, Al, that yeah, we just released the first episode of a new show called Meat Eater Rose, where we have a couple of our very own everyday wild game culinary enthusiasts. I heard you insult Brody with that term. Well no I changed it. He now is approving if you say I'm not. What did you say before? I was calling them ordinary cooks in the kitchen. But they compete against each other. They have an unknown chunk of wild game to cook in a

short amount of time and to cook in a short amount of time and then we have a couple judges who sort of roast them, help them along. The first episode just aired was Cal V Brody and we had Jesse Griffiths and Ronella judging and so far it's been, feedback's been great on it. What day of the week these drop? No idea. Thursday. You are the host of this show, correct? It's on YouTube Spencer, you get on it. So what day of the week these drop? No idea. Thursday. You are the host of this show. It's on YouTube Spencer. You get on YouTube. Yeah the first one dropped but now I've heard that there aren't, the forthcoming ones are being pushed a little ways until we figure out some sponsorship maybe about who wants to attach their name to this fine show. No one's gonna want to sponsor my episode. Oh No, it's gonna be the hottest one. That's right. I heard from several people in the room that Having nothing nobody mentioned the cooking at all

We said a beer drinking record that episode with meat eater roasts I don't think we should brag about that because it really wasn't that many beers We can break that record next time we're on there again, yeah, oh goodness So yeah go to our YouTube channel and check out meat eater roasts First episode at Cal v Brody. That's right. We'll have more coming soon. All right, for today's housekeeping, I'm going to throw it to Spencer for the announcement he teased last week. We have a new game on our website. If you're familiar with our website, you might know that we have crossword puzzles that come

out every Wednesday. And they are crossword puzzles from the meat eater universe that cover topics like hunting, fishing, the outdoors, national parks, conservation, wild game, things like that. And you compete against Randall in those crossword puzzles. We have a new game. It's going to come out every single Monday. It's called meat eater turtle. It's a lot like wordle, but it's better. Meat eater turtle has a five letter word that you get six tries to solve. It will give you help along the way. If your letter is yellow, that means you have the right letter in the wrong spot.

If it's green, you have the right letter in the right spot. If it's gray, then that letter is not in the word at all. And this is a way to give another game to people who share our dictionary as outdoorsmen. So comes out every single Monday. Janice is the person that you're going to be competing against in meat eater turtle. But for the first one, which comes out April 7th, the whole crew is going to play that one.

We're going to reveal their scores on an upcoming episode of meat eater radio. And you'll see if you can beat them. That first category is an animal. It's a five letter word first category is an animal. It's a five-letter word That's an animal go play it in the meat eater comm Games did you see the flaw I found Cal sent a screenshot that it didn't accept Oscar doesn't like proper nouns, but I would argue with the game On your behalf Cal that Oscar is also a fish. Yeah.

So it should have taken that. It's popular. Very relevant fish because it's an invasive in a lot of areas. Great aquarium fish. Spearfish. Well, that's the problem. It's a great aquarium fish. It used to be a great aquarium fish.

It's a bad invasive fish. Then people let go. So that's one help. There'll be one hint for you playing meat eater turtle. Yeah. Don't put in there Oscar. Oscar. And don't put in other proper nouns. And don't, when you're done with your Oscars don't just chuck them out into the wild

Where you've been testing the game on others besides me wherever I've been stacking up We're gonna reveal that on an upcoming episode of meat eater radio the whole the whole crew We're gonna have ten scores revealed how everybody did. See now, the fact that it's within our universe hasn't really been helping me. I still play it like I would play Wirtle. Okay, that could be one strategy for you. Oh, I beg to differ. Yeah, it might be different for you.

When you have a category that's animals and you have five letters, you think of as many five letter animals That's right. Well, I guess it depends or is it is it rating you on speed or tries speed and tries speed and try things Randall's try. Do you think those markers are free young man? Why don't you just use all of it right now messing with your name he likes the smell of them Show everybody what you're doing I paid the bills around this place

So one more time go to the meteor comm slash games You'll have turtle on Mondays crosswords on Wednesdays. Thanks for all the fun you bring into our lives Spencer. Thank you We're on to question one. Oh, yeah, tell tell him to play the drop. Oh play the drop Question one. Oh, okay. Tell him to play the drop. Oh, play the drop, Will. Hold this. He said he was ready.

Yeah, I lied to you. Hold on a second, here we go. We can't have it without this. Look, I need to know what I stand to win everything. How's that? You just stand to win everything. ["The Last Post-Credit Scene"] Game on, suckers! Question one blends hunting and conservation.

According to the Boone and Crockett Club, what is the average inside spread of a typical Boone and Crockett mule deer buck? Is it 21, 22, 23, or 24 inches? Now I rounded this up to the nearest whole number because the answer actually has a fraction next to it. I don't think that's going to help you guys, but I just wanted to be clear on that. actually has a fraction next to it. I don't think that's gonna help you guys, but I just wanted to be clear on that. Again, the question is, according to the Boone and Crockett Club, what is the average inside spread

of a typical Boone and Crockett mule deer buck? Is it 21, 22, 23, or 24 inches? Brody, have you ever killed a Boone or Melee? One. No shit. Do you know it's spread? Which one? That one from a long time ago in Colorado,

that real heavy one. It's a minimum, you know. Yeah. Do you know it's spread? Not, it didn't make, it's not very wide. No, okay. It's like Long times hmm cows got a record to show that when Brody did his hand mass measurement Baseball bats man, that's what got it over the edge Louisville slugger diameter

Baseball bats man. That's what got it over the edge Louisville slugger diameter You killed one your dad about that same time period. No my dad killed one. No, that's what I mean Sorry, like you were with your dad when he killed one a giant that was about that was probably a minimum too, right? No, that one that one my dad killed was over 200. Whoa Did you know was it, yeah, I was mad. That's good. I'd like to hear about that buck after this show. Oh, sure.

Does everybody have an answer? Yeah. Okay. Go ahead and reveal your answers. Roman going 22 inches, Cal, 22. 22, Eric, 23, 22, Eric 23, Randall 23, Spencer 24, Reva 22, Brody 22. We do have one correct answer, 24.

To be exact, it is 23, seven, eight. So Spencer is the only correct answer, 24. I spoke with Jennifer Statton of Boone and Crockett and asked her what the average width was. She took data from 21 states to find this number. Interestingly, the average inside spread of a non-typical from out of the same data set was 23.4 rates. That's three eights shorter than the typical.

There are 21 states that have Boone and Crockett mule deer entries? Correctamundo. There are, yeah. I find that still to this day, people measure the outside spread of a mule deer. Listen, Bob, when I first started scoring anything, I was measuring inside and outside and applying both those numbers.

That's good. Like a ball cast of six inch time going on. You probably had a line of people standing outside your house getting you to measure shit. I went with 24 because we went to the Antler King collection in three-fourths. What was his? Was it the Antler King or three forks what was his was it the antler king or was it something oh boy I don't remember but he's got like one of the world's biggest collection of antlers and that whole dang shed I think he said he had two muleys that went boone and Crockett and there were some

giant muleys in there Jim Jim's horn house there you go I think Jim has since found a mule deer buck alive rut in a doe this year that had split his skull plate. And so his, his one wide rack. Literally, literally his one antler was hanging down. Rumpala buck. And I was like, I should shoot that thing because the inside spread on that thing's probably 30 inches. That'd be good.

Yeah. Right. But when you score them, Shoot that thing because the inside spread on that thing is probably 30 inches. That'd be good. Yeah, right But when you score them the inside spread can't exceed the length of the longest main beam and I think it wouldn't count if his Was broken the skull plate. I think it has to I think that'd be hard to argue I don't know it would depend on if it's still broken or if it's been fused. I watched him, it wasn't flopping. So, hmm. Yep.

Man, a lot to unpack with that story. All right. We're on to question two. This one also falls into hunting. Which camouflage first appeared on First Light's hunting clothing. Do you know this Cal? Which camouflage first appeared on first lights clothing so what I'm looking for is like what camouflage pattern Was the first one?

the first light ever used the first lie ever used Reva what's so funny about that question? This is something that I should at least have some answer for Mmm. No, right you you really shouldn't I Mean now, you know some but this is for your time Are you saying you can't name a single camouflage pattern is that what you're saying? Well? I just thought of one okay great So do you have this one right Cal I

Know exactly what's right. Okay? Yeah, I was gonna say this is sort of a this is a bone for Cal this is a bone for the OG the first employee of first light Mm-hmm. I didn't know that he was gonna well and I guess it wasn't in the script here I did know that Cal was I still but old pair of bibs in this stuff and I can still can't remember. Oh, it's called Like this is interesting timing as camos coming back in the fashion world. I'm seeing this Coming back now, where have you been Roman?

This one's very fashionable to Brody do you have something written down? Yeah, okay. Does everybody have an answer go ahead and reveal your answers. I got it right Roman Cal say a set Eric mossy oak Randall a set anybody have an answer? Go ahead and reveal your answers. Oh, I got it right. Roman, Cal, say ASAT, Eric, Mossy Oak, Randall, ASAT, Spencer, Bottomlands, which is the Mossy Oak pattern, Reva, Cash, which is the first light pattern, Brody, ASAT. The correct answer is ASAT.

ASAT, which stands for all season, Terrain, was First Light's first camel pattern. I texted with Kenton Carruth, one of First Light's founders, to make sure I had this right. I asked him why ASAT? He replied, well we liked ASAT and Predator the best, and ASAT called us back first. That's how it happens when you're a young company. Is ASAT the one that just looks like branches kind of it's just like it's almost like a Yeah, some people would say almost like three colors a bad tribal tattoo Was often described sure yeah, I'm just gonna go hide in a

cattail marsh Yeah in the summer of 2011 I placed an order for a bunch of first light product in Realtree, I believe. And I got a call saying, hey, all that stuff is out of stock, but what you're going to want is this ASAT stuff. Was Cal on the other end of the line? And he said, oh, I see you're in Missoula. I used to live in Missoula.

I said, oh, cool. And then years later, I remembered that was Cal. At a hot dog stand. No, no, we met, we introduced ourselves the first time at a hot dog stand. Oh, okay. I'm personally a big fan of Asat, and I think that the pattern suffered

from simply not being hip enough to the human eye. Where a lot of other patterns that do not break you up as well as ASAT does, don't work, and is the variety of terrains that ASAT does, have sold way more items of clothing, whatever it's been put on, because we as humans just like it better. You used to say fashion over function. I'm a function guy. I would use it if it was still available. That's like fishing lures that catch fishermen, not fish. I'm telling you man, there's nothing quite like it.

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Hmm Interesting I thought this would be a little boy. softball. Boy, I thought so too. Brody. Brody had it. Very quickly. You've never heard the term brace? No. Oh. I've heard it. Reva?

Nope. Cal certainly has the upland hunter that he is. Well yeah, but I didn't know that. yeah, I don't know what it is. Oh gosh, this one is actually, I've kicked it down the, I have a little notes thing in my phone with all my trivia questions and when they come to me I pop them in there. And I've kicked this one down before because I thought everybody's going to know this one. So I'm glad I pulled it out. I like it.

Again, question three, a brace of birds is how many? Unless I have it wrong. Good on you, Yanni, saying the question again. Oh, that's good hosting. Okay, thank you. I like feedback from hosting. So listeners out there, you know in the comments throw it down. No Logan Williamson took the time to send me a quick text and say that he thought that last week's Meteor radio live was well hosted. I was very pretty now Now I'm offended. Logan's never texted me that.

Well yeah, but you set the bar. It's hard to beat it. Thank you, Yanni. I just had a shiny moment. Okay. Good. Roman? I was going to say we get a decent amount of emails talking about hosts, but I don't know if I should share that feedback. Alright, does everybody have an answer? Those of you that are gonna have one, go ahead and reveal them please. Roman, 18, Cal, 3, Eric, 4, Randall, 3, Spencer, 2, Reva, 20, Brody, 2.

We do have two correct answers. The answer is 2. That's what I had written down first, but that doesn't make any sense. Now I couldn't really find any interesting flavor text about abrasive birds although the term is commonly used in conjunction with the process of hanging birds, specifically pheasants, and what I found too that is that often a brace is not only a pair but that it would be one female and one male. Hmm. Which really wouldn't happen in our country much with pheasants. I guess if you were maybe on a game farm, you can shoot them there. But Hank Shaw wrote a great article on hanging birds on his website,

Hunt, Gather, Cook. His takeaway, hanging works. You're going to get awesome meat, awesome skin. You just got to do it right. Three seven days at fifty to fifty five degrees guts in or out Guts in is this exclusive to uplander? Would you be like a brace of mallards came into the decoys? You can use it for waterfowl. Okay. How about turkeys like a brace of race of times? I mean, I don't see what, basically the definition was any bird that was shot for like sport or food.

So where I've heard it often is like, I brought home a brace of birds. Yeah, brace of pheasants. There you go. I don't like the guts in. Neither do I, not with shotgun pellets, busted up guts. That's the problem is as that as things start to break down which the whole point of hanging is you know

like letting that carcass start to degrade if you have a little pathway created by a pellet that goes from, you know, the good thigh meat or from the the breast meat into the body cavity, the pressure of that bird breaking down even at 50 degrees is gonna get that stomach juice up into that meat and render it inedible. I agree. I pull the guts out. There you go. Appreciate the input, Cal. Cal says, pull the guts out. All right, on to question four.

This one is also in the hunting category. What does the acronym DOPE stand for when used in shooting? Randall, as I thought, would be quick to write an answer. I think we've had this question before. Ah! I really don't think we have, Spencer. Nah, we'll be fine. Check the spreadsheet.

We're still having fun, right? That's right. Robin's thinking, Cal's thinking. We're still having fun, right? That's right. Roman's thinking, Cal's thinking. What does the acronym DOPE when used in shooting stand for? Thanks, Randall. I got some real, the first time I hosted-

Eric's at least writing. I saw a lot of really nasty comments about how I didn't repeat the questions. Oh. Yeah. They said, how stupid do you have to be to not read them twice? I just command F'd the spreadsheet, Spencer, and I did not find anything. Okay.

I have no idea what this is. Oh. Oh, maybe it's appeared in a crossword. Maybe that's why I know I've read it somewhere. Next week, Randall is hosting so if yes give some feedback to him too. Prime your feedback. That's right. And now Randall my flavor text is basically throwing this to you so you have now a few seconds to prepare as we wait for the rest of these folks to write their answers. So you wrote the question knowing he would get it right and have something to say about it Heck yeah, look how well I know I know about that

Spencer what's your real? Three-dimensional chess he's playing here. I mean it's better than asking about first lights first camel pattern You got one in there like what is my second son's middle name? Not quite. I wouldn't know that one. I know, but you should ask it. Yanni and Randall, gracious enough to host for me because I have some deadlines coming up.

One of them was meat eater turtle. So please again, go play that. We worked hard on this is it you'll enjoy is it turtle as in the animal or turd oh turtle is in the animal chippy turds so if you like turtle but you don't like me hosting it's just call it even all right there we have an answer that is gonna have an answer Roman Shaceman said no go ahead and reveal your answers for the acronym All right, does everybody have an answer that is going to have an answer? Roman Shackman said no.

Go ahead and reveal your answers for the acronym DOPE. Roman says degrees of elevation. Cal says develop of projectile eject. Eric data of precise question mark. Randall data on previous engagementall, data on previous engagement. Spencer, data on previous engagement. Reva, dial optics, peep eye. I like it.

Brody, drop of projectile energy. We do have a couple correct answers in the room. It is data on previous engagements. Randall, what do you know about dope? Well. Yeah. Is it based off your previous engagement? Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, traditionally, so now it's just like a shorthand for any sort of ballistic information. Uh, but you know, if you are a serious shooter, you write down what your bullet is doing at any, in any given conditions at any given distance and then you have a record of that so kids out there don't just trust your phone if you're gonna shoot something at 350 yards you should have shot a target

at 350 yards already and then you can rely on data from previous engagements rather than just some number on your phone Being able to hit a paper plate at 50 yards dope nope nope Going good enough is not dope Well, I would say that it is because it's forming something you know data You know that you can hit a paper plate of 50 yards. That was our dope back in the day Yeah, I mean I think the day before the season I think dope is important because people say dope when they just pull numbers off their phone Mm-hmm, but if you've never shot at that distance

You don't actually have real data. It's all hypothetical and so Lead is in the air so and I think you make a really good point about verifying even in the apps You have to verify you can't just go and trust the numbers off the box or even if you get the velocity. Like anytime we do that we then take it out to 500 yards and shoot and rarely is it spot-on. You're still gonna make a fine adjustment either to BC or to velocity whatever it might be to really dial it in. Yeah. And I like to shoot a group at 800 yards and see what it's actually like shooting once at 800 yards. You might be in your zone of comfort, but if you shoot three and this one happens to be top left and the other two are down here, your actual point of impact

Your actual point of impact for your group is off your target. So shoot a lot, shoot often and pay attention to what you see on the target. Don't just wing it. I used to have that scribbled down on a piece of paper that was stuck on a bulletin board. It said like, shoot more, shoot more often. Yeah. You learn a lot. It's good for you. All right, on to question five.

Still stuck in the hunting category. Rate these four states non-resident whitetail deer buck tag prices from most expensive to cheapest. Oklahoma, Ohio, Iowa, and Missouri. Again, it's not really a question. Rate these four states non-resident, whitetail deer, buck-tags places. Spencer, have you hunted all four of these? Um, I have hunted zero of those, but I'm familiar with all four. You haven't hunted

Iowa? No, I have points. It's on my 2027 docket, oh? I have points too when are you going maybe, we could go together Nah, okay, where are we going? How, many points do you have and is it a pricey? opposition I'm it i'm it forward yeah we're in different we're different categories you have more me. Plus, I imagine you're gonna want to do an archery rod hunt and I'm probably gonna want to do like a December gun hunt. Oh, I could be

Persuaded. Okay, let's figure it out after this Again, the question five is rate these four states non-resident whitetail deer buck tag prices from most expensive to cheapest Oklahoma, Ohio, Iowa, and Missouri. Does everybody have these four states listed in order from most expensive to cheapest whitetail deer buck tag non-resident prices? I'm trying to like use my data and experience from people that have written in from our meat eater community what do they write in about complain about how non-resident prices are out of

control yeah I mean if Montana was on that list it wouldn't be your classic white tail, but it would be right by far and away the bird your tag Unless you count Special broad tag. Yeah, let's not talk. I wrote down my guess for the price of the tag. Oh good Hmm. All right. Some of these states have a reputation Reveal your answer. I have to do this upside down because I wrote it down. didn't want to rewrite it. But it's backwards too, you expect me to. Ohio, Iowa. What was the other one? Oklahoma and Missouri. So Missouri's the cheapest. Missouri's the cheapest. Ohio's the most expensive. Ohio's the most expensive. Roman, much more legibly, wrote out Iowa, Oklahoma, Ohio, Missouri. Randall, Iowa, Missouri, Oklahoma, Ohio.

Spencer, Oklahoma, Iowa, Ohio, Missouri. Reva, Iowa, Missouri, Ohio, Oklahoma. Brody, Iowa, Oklahoma, Missouri, Ohio. What are you doing to my boy here? Oh, did I skip you, Eric? Might be too short. Okay, maybe your board might have been behind your hair. Eric wrote down Iowa, Ohio, Missouri, Oklahoma.

I believe, Phil, we have one correct answer. We have one correct answer. It is Oklahoma, Iowa, Ohio, Missouri. Spencer Newhart's got it correct. Oklahoma came in at Missouri Spencer Newhart's got it correct Oklahoma came in at $708 Followed by Iowa at $644 Ohio $400

and Missouri at $288 I was surprised to read how many states have white tail deer tags over $500 I'm used to paying $200 in Wisconsin, which is now I feel like a heck of a deal. And is that like a benefit of being no no that's just standard price Montana like Calisthenic

759 Whoo, but the other fun thing though is like in Oklahoma That's three deer. I think you get one buck and two does with that purchase so true that you can yeah amongst all this stuff There's a lot of different of various about how many three you might You're also required to like have a small game license I tried to factor that in for the prices like what it would minimum take to go hunting and that's This is what I came up with how many deer can you shoot in Missouri with a deer it's just a deer license right or do you have a tag I'm not familiar enough but they have a reputation for

some of the cheapest tags I'm in Ohio but the cheapest one I could find was Pennsylvania right which is her box yeah like a couple dollars over a hundred incredible and that includes a bunch of other stuff That's too cheap. I'd say man. They're like come on down. They have a million resident hunters. I just don't it's like You know what I mean? Oh, they're not looking at it like as a real source of revenue because people like they're like buyer beware They're like, buyer beware. One last thing here.

If you're looking to get the best bang for your buck when heading out of state to hunt whitetails, read Tony Peterson's article, how to find the best value in non-resident whitetail tags at themeedeater.com. All right, that was question five. So now we have a scoreboard update, Phil. Yeah. I'm excited to see this.

Spencer seems to do pretty good when I hope he does. I would call it suspicious, but I know he has not seen the questions. All right. Still without a correct answer. We have Reva and Eric. Okay. Go and take it away. Oh, sorry. No, that's fine. I don't care. This is an opportunity for you to sit back. Yanni. Yeah. Take a break. How this has gone so far. I mean, from what I heard that that sounded great. Better than what I do.

Uh, Eric and Reva yet to make it on the board with zero points coming up next to Roman and Cal with one point a piece. Our usual champs, Randall and Brody are tied up in, uh, well, I remember, I remember the Spencer where there was an argument. I said, I would say tied up in second place. They're actually tied up in third place. And then in first place, they have two points a piece. And in first place, two points ahead of them is Spencer Newhart, the four points. That was with Randall having a question written specifically for him. I think we're tied for second. No, I got yelled at by someone online and I looked it up.

Like if you have someone in first place and then the next people that are down. See, I think we're tied for second but Roman and Cal are tied for fourth. I agree. What do they do in the Olympics when someone ties? I don't want you talking about my score. It's the way I just explained it. That's what I thought. What do they do in the Olympics when someone ties? I don't want you talking about my score. It's the way I just explained it. That's what I thought, Brody. Hey everyone, Phil the Engineer here piping in before I get yelled at by strangers on

the internet to say that, yes, as per usual, Randall Williams is right and I am, as they say, a big dumb idiot. Randall and Brody are tied up in second place, then it skips a spot, Roman and Cal are tied up in fourth. Just to clarify these very important details. Now back to the show. I agree with Brody, Bill's right. Thank you.

All right, Bill helped me a little bit on this question. Oh, good work, Bill. Barely. Question number six. Could also kind of fall into conservation, but it's a hunting question. Kivyat is the soft under wool of what animal? Randall. So it's hunting or conservation? Yeah, yeah.

It's the same category we've been in the whole time Spencer, back off. It doesn't have to be a dead animal. It's actually textiles is the category The question again is Kivy it's spelled Q IV Iut that's good hosting is the soft under wool of what animal? Spencer do you have an answer? I do great Phil. How'd you help with this one? Is it was it a phrasing? issue have an answer? I do. Great. Phil, how'd you help with this one? Is it, was it a phrasing issue? It was just like a way, a way, no, I would say, I was gonna say no, it was a way to phrase the question, which would make it a phrasing issue. Anybody else get the feeling that Spencer is a little overconfident in

this game? Almost as if he like was like, like I need to prove your Funneled me the the answers Although I think Spencer has a very high win ratio because of the very few times that he's played Looking to add to that Does everybody have an answer Roman? he's fine go ahead and reveal your answers Roman says bison cow muskox Eric doll she all Spencer slipped up Randall muskox Spencer bison Reva sheep Brody muskox the correct answer is muskox right next to it Spencer Spencer can actually smell the Kivyat. What's the backstory here, eh? I've been trying to get Steve to harvest the Kivyat from that muskox hide since the day he shot it

because when we were on Nunavac to hunt that muskox, the guide had this liner beanie made of Kivyat. And I've never put on anything softer. It's like cashmere on crack. I hope that's a good analogy. If you've ever touched or had a cashmere sweater, extremely soft. And you're on crack. I can't niche. Steroids. Steroids.

It's just extremely soft and literally made your head like radiate with warmth when you put it on and I tried to buy it off the guide and he and he refused. What was your offer? I Think I offered him like 300 bucks Yeah, now listen if you guys want to hear a longer story about buying hats on Nunavac Island I'm happy to tell it right now or we can move on I'm not watching the clock we're all we're already past the average trivia length

question six Yanis was the great millinery trader of the extra at break you heard earlier in the show okay Yeah. Okay, that was question six. On to question seven. Little pop culture for you suckers. What 2000 movie features Hubert the Bloodhound and his owner, Harlan Pepper? What 2000 movie features Hubert the Bloodhound and his owner Harlan Pepper? I was hoping we'd have a fan in the room.

You'll be able to help me with the flavor text, Cal. What movie would Cal love? Is this a movie that would be reviewed in media to radio live? Don't give a hint. Yeah, let's not answer that. Brody should know this one. Randall's writing, Brody does not have an answer. Reva? No?

Nothing. No. This is a great show. Show? It is a great, great movie. Yeah, show movie. We just watched it. Yeah, it's great media We just we just watched it this weekend with our kids. Oh, no way. What the kids think? Oh, they're into it. It's uh

Well, it's my favorite now. I don't think you'd watch this movie with your kids I'm gonna I'm gonna talk to that point Again, the question is what 2000 movie features Hubert the bloodhound and his owner Harlan Pepper Mmm kids love dogs Especially bloodhounds and they have a hound in the house so Brody do you need more time? I have no idea what it is. Alright folks, reveal your answers. Roman still writing. Roman not gonna give me an answer. Where the red fern grows. Cal best in

show. Eric Fox and the Hound. Randall oh brother where, Where Art Thou? Spencer, Patriot, Reva, Without an Answer, Brody, Green Mile, We Do Have a Correct Answer, It Is, Best in Show. Never heard of that. That was a good one. Oh, you've seen it, oh good. I've seen it, I wasn't even thinking that genre at all. Okay.

Yeah, we watched it with the kids. Everything is cool besides the sexual innuendos back in 2000 Like it just wasn't a thing that you couldn't do those kind of jokes And so it's just constant like you couldn't do comedy without just constant sexual innuendo. So that's a part of it, but The all the dogs and the characters amazing flick oh well the the creator his his production company is called pale morning done he's a big fly fisherman comes you know spends a bunch of time in Montana so that was kind of like a thing in the fly fishing guiding world is like you just talking about Christopher guest

Christopher guess really I had no idea well don't you remember the scene where they're talking about he goes he meets with his crew because he's like the one southern guy on there like the right he plays Harlan yes he plays Harlan Pepper yeah he's the he's it's the same crew that did this is spinal tap waiting for Guffman and a mighty wind and waiting for guffmans Absolutely fantastic too. Yeah. Oh, I don't know seeing that. Oh treat yourself. Okay, I will kid appropriate Probably not have the exact same experience there. They're all they're all like writing the line between PG 13 and are I don't think any Of them are like that that bad though

All right. Well, Hubert the Bloodhound. Remember, I sent you. All right, on to question eight. I've never liked Weimer Reiner's, and Best in Show is like, just a good example. Why don't you like them? They're just not a good dog.

Go ahead and write him. Ask KCA. Ask the media. I him some good friends that had a couple of them they are just horrible dogs don't listen aggressive and weird way like do you know the premise best in show I assume it's about a dog show yeah right and but they they just do this amazing job of taking these dogs and then making these owners slash trainers Be like they are the dog kind of a thing. Like whatever the dog is. So is their owner handler? Yeah, and it's yeah People own those dogs because that dude who?

Featured them in like photos Featured them in like photos Real those are playing poker. Yeah all kinds of stupid shit It's like a thing for like a period of years like 20 25 ad breaks Question number eight question number eight You guys can decide what category it lives in. What six letter term is aviation slang for the biological remains left behind after a bird strikes an aircraft,

especially a turbine engine? The question is, six-letter term is Aviation slang for the biological remains left behind after a bird strikes an aircraft especially a turbine engine Got this one Randall no, I I know that I have it in there somewhere, and I'm never gonna access it. So I just wrote something down. Reeva, you know the lady I'm talking about. She's like super famous now. Which is like the way over the top.

Jennifer Coolidge. Jennifer Coolidge, yes. Yeah, she's in the Christopher Guest movie. Yeah, Eugene Levy and Catherine O'Hara, who are now super famous among young people because of Schitt's Creek. They're in all those movies. Yeah, and they're great.

Great show. Great show. Yeah. One for the kids.itt's Creek. They're in all those movies too. Yeah, and they're great. Great show. Great show. Yeah. One for the kids. That's right. The younger generation. Cal, you were confident you know this? Yes. Ooh.

God, making a late, late game run on Randy right now. I know, it's getting tense now. And typically, it kind of falls apart under pressure like this. God making a late late game run on Randy right now It's getting tense now and typically kind of falls apart under pressure like this. That's gonna be really interesting This is question eight. How do you guys feel up to this point of free? Good good the level of questions the difficulty too hard too easy I Just the real relaxing flow in here right now easy? I just the real relaxing flow in here right now. Okay go ahead reveal your answers it's time to hurry up. Roman says snarge, Cal snarge, Eric without an answer, Randall says slop, Spencer carrying, Reva sky kill, Brody says

jetsum. The correct answer is snarge. Listen to the Meat Eater podcast episode 417, where we interview Megan Deneen, USDA airport wildlife biologist about snarge and all the other crazy stuff she deals with in her job. I thought that was gonna be a gimme. I think that word made it around the office many, many times. It did, but it's been a while. Yeah, we didn't keep it in our...

Would lexicon be the term? Good job. Okay, that was question eight. So now we need a scoreboard update, Phil. Yeah, Cal is making a late game breakout here. We've still got Eric and Reeva with zero points. Roman has two, Brody and Randall tied up still with three points now, but Ryan Callahan has pulled ahead and is

now tied with Spencer, who has not gotten a point in the last few questions. He still has four and now Cal also has four. I kind of feel like I should be happy, but it's kind of sad watching these two crumble. Mentally they just don't have it, you know. Okay, on to question nine. A crescent shaped lake in an abandoned loop of river channel is called what? This one I think we have had. We have had this one. Okay, well, you're going to get it again. I missed that one. Getting it again. A crescent-shaped lake in an abandoned loop of river channel is called what? Not a game changer, you're honest.

One two three, I don't know, Cal's thinking. Did you write an answer? Oh, he's got an answer. Roman not riding. Oh, he's got an answer. Roman, not writing. Reva, also not writing. For those of you that are gonna have an answer, go ahead and flip your boards around. Cal, oxbow, Randall oxbow, Spencer oxbow, Lake, Brody oxbow, they are correct. Abandoned by what?

Gets cut off by the rest of the river sediment or broding during our guiding days on the Eagle River actually got to watch one be created and I swear to you I was on the river the day that it started and I floated through a chunk of cottonwoods that the river had never gone through knows the wildest thing ever, and people are still like, where should we cast? I'm like, you don't understand! This isn't where we're supposed to be right now! We're floating through the forest as opposed to down the main river channel.

It was pretty cool. You think you were the first one through that part of the river? I mean, first ten boats that ever went through there for sure, yeah. It's pretty cool and yeah well that oxbow for a while held fish and then as happens with oxbows they're cut off and no water coming in no water going out and they slowly fill in and they get hot and no more fishies. Some of them will keep I mean if like it's a big enough river right become their own little fishery. But what I was

reading is that eventually all of them will silt in and vegetation will grow in because if it does not have water, fresh water coming in. Hmm. Yeah, there can be like, you know, water coming up from underneath too and some of these systems, you know, it's like a reflection or it's the uppermost layer of the aquifer type of deal. Okay, one more scoreboard update, Phil. Oh, yeah, sorry. I'm getting your I'm getting your tiebreaker question prepped because I'm you're really making assumptions.

Geez. Four ad breaks. Apologies. Yeah, I mean, like Brody said, not exactly a game changer for the competition here. We still got Randall and Brody tied up with four now and Cal and Spencer have five. All right, and if you're playing at home, you need to know the correct answers. For number one, it was 24 inches.

Question two, ASAT. Question three, two. Question four, data on previous engagements. Question five, Oklahoma, Iowa, Ohio, Missouri. Question six, Musk Ox. Question seven, best in show. Question eight, snarge. Question nine, Oxbow Lake.

Now question number 10, which, as we always do here, is fishing. Hmm. Ah, I got a little laugh there. Bagnell Dam was built across the Osage River to make this famous body of water. Bagnell Dam was built across the Osage River to make this famous body of water.

across the Osage River to make this famous body of water. Randall writing, Brody thinking, Spencer looking at the question again. Cal writing down an answer. Phil still trying to figure out where that noise is coming from. Yeah, we're still getting cell phone stuff from somewhere But you know it's might be Romans coffee cup probably

famous by what measure Why is it famous? Don't say that yeah, I think I can tell you later in my got well known well known there you go To make this well known body of water. Don't say that. Okay, good enough. Just thinking of famous lakes in my head. Just trying to avoid some embarrassment. It's too late for that one.

You stay into the- I'm going to get bullied at work tomorrow. It's okay. Well now I really want to see it. Do the Steve thing, just put a line through it. No, don't do it. It's gone. It's gone. Sorry. Alright, one last time. Bagnell Dam was built across the Osage River to make this well-known body of water you can say something else but I know I like it oh for yeah yeah say I don't know what say don't say that one, but you can. All right. Flip your boards. Rowan, no answer. Cal, Lake of the Ozarks.

Eric, Canyon Ferry. Randall, Lake of the Ozarks. Spencer, Lake of the Ozarks. Reva, Lake of the Ozarks. Yeah, on the board. Wow. That was very native. Sam Rayburn.

Sam Rayburn. The correct answer is Lake of the Ozarks. Bagnell Dam was completed in 1931 and is 2,500 feet long. Lake of the Ozarks is known for its great fishing. March is the beginning of spoonbill season. These prehistoric filter feeders gather in deep holes, making them much easier to target. Since they don't eat traditional lures, you got to snag them.

The largest spoonbill to come out of the Lake of Ozarks was snagged by Chad Williams of Olathe, Kansas. It weighed 164 pounds, 13 ounces and is the current world record. That's a big old fish. You know, spoonbill is a geographical That's right differentiator. Mm-hmm. It's like we have spoonbill in Montana that are native to Montana But if you said yeah, I caught a spoonbill people would be like, I don't know what you're talking about

paddlefish country up here. Yeah, interestingly on all the websites I was looking at around Lake of the Ozarks there They make a point to call out both terms on all the websites I was looking at around Lake of the Ozarks there they make a point to call out both terms. Oh they do? Yep so that you know. Sometimes you'll hear it combo to spoonbill catfish. I'll hear folks say that. Oh. Nice new creel surveys that would come up. Like the spoonbill is a catfish? No it's not a catfish but they would they would say it as though you were talking about like a smallmouth bass right? Interest. Spoonbill catfish? Yeah, it's not a catfish, but they would say it as though you were talking about like a smallmouth bass, right? Interest.

Spoonbill catfish. Just like regional vernacular. Yeah. I was also reading like the fancy sonar has assisted the spoonbill guiding industry tremendously. Oh, dude. I can't imagine. They outlawed that shit in Montana. Oh, they did?

For paddlefish. Yep. Yep. Phil, where are we sitting at after that final question that some of us got right and some didn't? Well, Janis, that's gonna bring us to a tie-breaking round because we got Ryan Callahan and Spencer Newhart tied up with six points a piece. I'm just gonna sit back.

Oh, well I'm glad I could pitch a game where neither Randall nor Brody won. Okay on to the tiebreaker. Tiebreaker. You ain't first you're last. I think just cut it at if you ain't first you're last and then like go into other stuff it's funny. I never liked it. Hey Phil, f*** off man. Thanks for playing the drop Phil. My pleasure. Tiebreaker. How big in inches is the current archery whitetail buck record in Wisconsin? Well, good game Spencer. I don't know Wisconsin. And I would like you to I would like you to answer with a fraction. Wait a minute. To an eighth. How big in inches is the current archery Whitesail Buck record in Wisconsin?

And this is grossernet. This is- Typical or non-typical? Oh, it was supposed to say typical. Oh, okay. Sorry. Sorry, but it is typical. Did you want the visual accompaniment, me? Yes. Oh, so we get to see this deer, too. Yes. Sorry, but it is visual the visual accompaniment Yeah, I want to see this. Yes. Wow. All right Hmm You know that guy got a hell of a buck next year

He's only four and a half Mismatched camo. I like to see it. Oh and a half mismatched camo I like to see it I like it when they got that blonde forehead though the question is that I have small hands or big hands yeah well there's a couple of deductions in there too Hmm What's the what do it what do we got to go to to the end to an eighth Mmm got the main beams on that sucker. Gritty. Sometimes I start to think these giants I'm like it doesn't look that big but then when I

Compare it all to the bucks ear then all of a sudden I go. Oh, yeah, that's right That ears probably and some hints six inches long and now all of a sudden everything you start to gain some context You can see this buck on the YouTube channel that Yanni is having a score. Mm-hmm What year was this killed I Was killed that looks like that looks like a 2001 picture 14 2014 mm-hmm whoa

Like this guy vintage He was doing vintage before vintage was cool. Alright, so the two that are actually playing here are Cal and Spencer, correct? So hold on, I always forget. Everyone should play along. If someone gets it right in the nose, we'll add an extra hundred dollars to the donation. Okay, so everybody revealed besides Cal and Spencer Roman going two oh eight zero eights Eric going two thirty three three eights

Randall to twenty eight four eights Riva to ten zero eights Brody two oh seven and three eights Now between Cal and Spencer, Cal says 219 and an 8th. Spencer 193 and an 8th. We have a winner, of course we would. Um, but the winner is within two inches. Oh my goodness. And the number is 191 6 8 making Wow Spencer today's winner oh

What's the sub 200 he took this buck his name is Adam Hupf Hupf not the other half is a chief Yeah, I don't know how to pronounce this guy's last name. Do it again. H.O.P.F. H.U.P.F. H.U.P.F. So I just assumed like everything had to be over 200 inches.

It doesn't look like a 200 plus inch buck, but I'm like, it just has to be. Yeah. Well, net typical. It's hard to get there. Net typical. Yeah. But what, like Doug's big giant bucket at his place in Wisconsin is I want to say it's over 200 inches isn't it the standard that's what I thought but I don't know

It's like not it's for some reason. It's not typical probably Mmm. Well Spencer as today's winner you get to choose where the $500 donation will go. I'm gonna donate to the North American sturgeon and paddlefish society. I donated them the last few times. Really like that organization. They deserve more attention. Most people listening this will probably never catch a sturgeon or a paddlefish. That's okay. They're just an amazing fish. Hopefully like you, it just makes you happy knowing that they exist out there.

And then we have some dinosaurs swimming around our rivers. And this is the one conservation organization dedicated to them. My favorite animals in the world, $500 going their way. And they're right here in Bozeman. Spoonbills. That's right. I'm really glad you could get this win Spencer. Thank you. Thank you Spencer

Well, thank you all for playing. Good job Spencer for winning. Phil, thanks again for your great work as always Thanks for everybody listening at home and watching at home also and join us next week for more meat eater trivia The only game show where conservation always wins. And Randall's hosting. Thanks, Yannis. Thank you, Yanni. Yeah, Spencer from South Dakota, he's the host. Using those smooth mellow tones, he lays them questions down. And he likes taking those two and three-year-old bucks. And he's an avid amateur rock hound.

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