The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 687: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CLIX
Episode Date: April 9, 2025Randall Williams guest hosts MeatEater Trivia with Spencer Neuharth, Janis Putelis, Ryan Callaghan, Brody Henderson, Tressa Croaker, Hanzi Deschermeier, and Alyssa Smith. Connect with M...eatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, and Youtube Clips Subscribe to our new MeatEater Podcast Network on YouTube Shop Trivia MerchSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Can we start the episode now?
You mean like, are we recording? Yeah.
Randall, we've been rolling for five
minutes.
Well, in that case.
Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the
only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your host,
Randall Williams. Today we're joined by Spencer, Yanis, Brody, Cal, Tressa, Alyssa and Hansi.
This is a 10 round quiz show with question. I thought we were doing a new light, light
fingers slipped on the light control here. Continue.
Got to put that epilepsy warning at the top of this. This is a 10 round quiz show with questions for meat eaters,
four verticals, which are hunting, fishing,
conservation and cooking.
There is a prize.
Meat eater will donate $500 to the conservation
organization of the winners choosing.
Now for the stat of the week this week,
we're looking at player
performance from previous episodes I've hosted.
The average player score in those rounds was a 4.8, with the average
winning score being an eight.
That means Randall hosted episodes are slightly easier than Yannis
hosted episodes.
That's right.
Which is good because Yannis' first two episodes were incredibly difficult
to the point that
they weren't very fun to play.
Oh wow.
And no cooking questions last week either, Yannis.
I just feel like the way this is written, Spencer, the way you wrote this made it sound
like my episodes are bad.
No.
No.
I think it should say that means Randall hosted episodes are just right.
Okay, there you go.
They're just right.
I call them the
Goldilocks. Are you gonna have all four verticals this time? Because Yanis
barely got two last time. And I'm gonna introduce a new vertical today actually.
Okay good. Now for the IFAQ, here's our infrequently asked questions segment. If
you have a trivia related question for our crew, send to trivia at the meat eater comm with the subject line
IFAQ this one comes from Spencer Newhart
Says what does it mean to be a random?
Now you only think some always planning these questions, but here I am
Outright planting a question Yana. So what is a random? Well, I asked Phil to contemplate this
I was gonna reach out to the community. We're all in touch on Instagram question, Yana. So what is a random? Well, I asked Phil to contemplate this. I
was going to reach out to the community.
We're all in touch on Instagram. Phil, did
you do you have an answer for us?
Oh sure. This is the first thing I wrote
up here. I said a random all is an alpha
who lives life not for the destination
or the journey for the complete but for
the competition and hot dogs you crush along the way.
A randomal is also keen enough to distinguish that
from the journey.
Okay.
That's good.
That's good.
I wrote a few notes.
I said, they don't take themselves too seriously,
but they don't like funny business when it comes to trivia.
As I said, randomals like spelling things correctly.
It's another point of emphasis for us.
But I think they come from all walks of life.
I think regionally speaking,
most of them live within 100 to 150 miles
of the Ohio River.
Yeah, just people who like cased meat,
professional basketball.
There are a lot of folks up out there who like
guns like weird information about guns
so now we know there were people
previously who didn't consider
themselves randomals now that they just
heard themselves described it's a growing
I'm a real tribe yeah we've had I've
actually Yannis do you have something
well I'm gonna I'm just so happy that
you say that you reminded me the randomals love cased meat.
You remember last week I mentioned that I hung out with Eli Cairo from Olympia Provisions.
He sent me a box of meat. There's a lot of cased meat in it. They make a product called that,
I don't know if I'm gonna pronounce this properly, Hans, you might be able to help me but it's a casa Craner like Ka with the umlaut
S E K R A I N E R it's basically this lovely like very emulsified Frankfurter
thing but it has Swiss cheese dotted in it not some high temp bullshit yeah the
real deal I'm telling you set you free buddy I'm gonna bring you a package of
that yeah let's do that why is Hansi a subject matter expert on that? Oh just pronunciation?
German uh-huh case. Yeah, German. Yeah, there's your Meyer. That's your Meyer. That's your Meyer
Sorry, everyone loves to put the the are extra are in there. Yeah, it's okay Alan probably did you dirty? Yeah, yeah, I
Will note that actually random als I found Alan Dershowitz
It's the only Dershowitz Sorry that I can think of. Sorry. That's the stuff that randomals live for right there. But it's actually a real thing. It's a real thing.
Randomal is a term I found out that refers to, it's an abbreviation of random animal. And when people are messing around with AI to generate strange creatures
Apparently random all is a term that they used to describe like they'll tell AI to make up like a tiger with scale
I thought it was just a category of people you came up with that love hot dog
Yeah, I kind of started getting that the more he's like, you know, it's a real thing. Yeah
Because I keep saying over I did an escape room this weekend and AI generated random als were a part of the escape room
Really?
Did you know that they were random als at the time? No, I just learned this right now
Yeah, my wife's can I learn that this morning? Did you escape Phil? We escaped? Yes. I bet you're really good escape room
I mean, I've got a 1000 average batting average on escape. Good. Good. Are you like a team leader when that's happening?
1,000 average batting average on escape. Are you like a team leader when that's happening?
It's it's a competition between me and my wife Adrian about who's the leader
You guys you were taking the kids to an escape. Oh, yeah, we shoved them aside and did it
No, I just panic and escape rooms. I don't like it
Now for some housekeeping. That's the difference between a random and a Philistine.
This one this one is for the randomals out there. Now for some housekeeping on episode 615 I asked a question about the fastest commercially produced rifle cartridge in the world the 220 Swift
It was a tiebreaker question. In the flavor text
I said the following a prototype quote a prototype was developed in
In the flavor text, I said the following, a prototype was developed in 1934 by a man named Grossfenor Watkins who necked down the 25-3000 Savage.
Many many people have written in to claim that I am wrong in this assertion, instead
claiming that the 220 Swift is based on the 6mm Lee Navy.
And in fact, I'd like to let you know that both of us are correct.
The version that was produced by Winchester for the commercial market was based on the 6mm Lee Navy.
And this comes from an article published by Paul Box on AccurateShooter.com, which is a tremendous
website. The cartridge introduced by Winchester in 1935 for their Model 54 rifle. A year later,
it was added as a standard cartridge in the Model 70. And here's where it gets interesting. What might not be common
knowledge to some reloaders is that the prototype for the Swift was developed in
1934-35 by Grossvenor Watkins by necking down the 250 Savage case, but in the end
Winchester chose the 6mm Lee Navy. So I actually had more information
about the development of this cartridge included in my
flavor text, but I rushed through my reading after a particularly contentious game of trivia.
If you'll recall, Steve and Cal were particularly upset about the confusing title of the film Lake
Placid. So I rushed through what I had prepared just to end that episode quickly.
I do recall.
through what I prepared just to end that episode quickly. I do recall.
So for you careful listening cartridge aficionados out there,
I apologize for my hasty summary.
I like some mess up with those people.
No, they're going to get you.
Oh, they will get you.
I like some housekeeping that's like six months old like that.
Yeah. Yeah. Good throwback.
I mean, we're still getting emails about it.
That's right.
Now, the Sydney index for today's episode is a three meaning that our winner should get six correct answers
But I think we can do better than that gang and now we're on to our game of trivia Phil
Please play the drop. Oh, I got a please
People write in with that that I don't say please
shout out to the cellistines
Try filling throats on precise
Question one. This is our multiple choice question in the category of public lands
What river is the only major river system entirely contained within the state of Nevada, and shares
its name with the largest national forest outside of
Alaska? Your options are A Elko, B Humboldt, C Reno, four
Winnemucca. I'll'll read this once again for those out there playing it along.
What river is the only major river system entirely contained
within the state of Nevada and shares its name
with the largest national forest outside of Alaska?
We have an answer from Brody.
Lots of folks still chewing on this one.
Janus is writing something. Cal... Cal's contemplating. Spencer's writing. Guys
want to... guys got any thoughts? Any chit chat about this question? I don't know it,
but I like this one. I like this question. You know what, Hansi? I think I do. Yeah. Oh, Hansi, I
thought you hadn't written something but you have a double side
I got one of those tricky words yeah yep i've never realized how, confusing that might be for a host yeah
You know they didn't vada for a minute right yeah
Well i worked in nevada but i lived in truckie so i'm just so this this
River starts and terminates in the state of nevada river system yes well it
Brody's correct. Mm-hmm
If you'll recall Nevada is part of the Great Basin
It's interesting that you can give us a tip within
The question and it's still not a gimme. I liked this question. I do.
It was the last... If I do say so. It was the last minute.
It was the last minute. Wow. I actually... I was fact-checking one of my questions
earlier
and I thought it was too tricky to make a hard determination one way or the
other so I
came up with this one and then decided it was too hard, made it multiple choice
and removed a clue as to the number of letters in the answer and I didn't screw that up like I did when
My first question was gallery for I'm lost changing. Did you follow that? Mm-hmm? Yeah, I
Just quit paying attention
That's what I meant. Oh
sour puss cow
Pretty pleasant quit listening I was still happy Sour puss cow. It was pretty pleasant.
Quit listening, I was still happy.
Do we all have answers?
Why don't we flip them over, gang?
Janus says Humboldt.
Cal says Elko.
Alyssa says Elko.
Trissa says Humboldt.
Spencer says Winamucca.
Hondy says Humboldt.
Brody says Humboldt. We have a handful of correct answers in the room.
It's the Humboldt River.
The Humboldt River originates in the ruby mountains of northeastern Nevada
and flows westward for approximately 300 miles before ending in the Humboldt Sink.
It was an important water source for emigrants traveling the California Trail during the 19th
century.
This river shares its name with the Humboldt-Tuyabe National Forest which spans over six
million acres across Nevada and eastern California. Both the river and the forest
were named after Alexander von Humboldt, a Prussian nationalist and explorer who
also has named after him a squid, a penguin, a glacier, a peak, and an ocean
current. That is a hell of a collection.
Yeah.
I mean, across the gambit.
There's a wonderful book called The Humboldt Current,
and it's a history of Alexander von Humboldt's life
and his influence on natural thinking.
Huh.
Good for him.
Yeah.
Jealous.
I learned something.
Good.
Randall, you've already crushed my hosting
from the last episode. One question. It's just very different styles. You haven't heard question
two. I'm excited. Question two comes to us in the category of cooking. What dish
created by an American physician to combat malnutrition during the Civil War
consists of ground beef mixed with seasonings formed into a patty and is
typically served with gravy. I'll read that once again. We're looking for a dish that was created
by an American physician to combat malnutrition during the Civil War and it consists of ground beef mixed with seasonings, formed into a patty, and is typically served with gravy.
Alyssa, I literally just watched in real time. Inspiration strike.
Do you ever make one of these, Cal?
Based off of that, yes.
Do you know the answer I have an answer now that you said one of these though that changes my answer I think well have you ever made
this right but you wouldn't say like have you ever made one of these and the
answer was spaghetti so yeah it's true it. Well like listen you go down
To on Main Street right you go to the cowboy cafe down there or the Western Cafe
Every single day on the special board you're gonna see a hamburger steak
for breakfast uh-huh
Would you like that with gravy like I mean what are you doing?
He's already cutting down your question before you've given the answer
Does anybody else have an answer?
With what my guts saying does anybody I mean yeah, I saw Cal's board. I'm not can you write that
What are you doing to my game?
I'm a people pleaser. It's totally fine as long as you don't change your answer
I'm not do it though the the double-sided whiteboards are getting it really Spencer's Spencer's writing here
Oh and random
All right, let's flip them over gang
Chuck steak
Cal says Salisbury steak. It says cube steak Tressa says burger. I like Spencer's S
Oh answer says s word on a shingle, but that's chip beef. Hansi says chip beef with toast
S word on a shingle and Brody says Salisbury steak. Dang it. The correct answer is Salisbury steak or hamburger steak
not Chuck steak
I
Well
There's gravy on top like Stick your God's Randall.
Phil, do you want to do a quick fact check?
OK, but Chuck and cube steak, that
has nothing to do with the preparation, right,
of putting gravy on it, as far as I know.
You can deep fat fry a cube steak,
and then you got chicken fried steak.
Cube steak is mechanically tenderized cuff.
This is what AI says.
It says it's not the same thing.
What about Chuck?
Chuck's just a steak from the Chuck, ain't it?
Yeah.
Yep.
No, they're not the same.
AI says once again,
yeah, Chuck steak is just a cut of beef from the shoulder.
You use cube steak to make chicken fried steak,
or you can use it to make Salisbury
steak.
Oh, I just pounded it.
I just made some.
Now the Salisbury steak was created by Dr. James Henry Salisbury.
Oftentimes people think it's named after Salisbury, England, but Salisbury was an
American physician who developed it during the civil war as a remedy for soldiers
suffering from chronic diarrhea and other ailments.
Huh? Dr. Salisbury, because when I soldiers suffering from chronic diarrhea and other ailments.
Dr. Salisbury believed that vegetables and starchy foods produce toxins in the digestive system and advocated for a meat-centered diet. He referred to the ground beef patties as,
quote, a muscle pulp of beef and advocated for a meat-based
Diary said that and he suggested that it should be eaten three times a day whoa yeah
The first paleo yeah trust your doctors, but like sos is like a military food staple
Yeah, I think that's like a navy food. What you may have said this was he a yank thing on a shingle
Yeah, I believe he was a a Navy food. What you may have said this was he a thing on a shingle. Yeah
I think it was a one in the same but yeah
Salisbury steak and Swiss steak always kind of go I feel like
Interchangeably to me too. I feel like Swiss steak is like I feel like Salisbury steak is typically with like a brown
Gravy where Swiss steak is more of like a white
But then you like enter schnitzel. Yeah
white but then you like enter schnitzel yeah I mean it's all and hamburger hamburger steak really fell out of favor hey Phil is this going on long enough
I feel like we're on time right now we're doing great yeah World War one the
anti-german sentiment led to a lot of people abandoning the term hamburger
steak mmm so question three this is in the category of America. This question comes to us
from Justin Fay of Cincinnati, Ohio. Oh, yeah. He knows how to get, he knows how to get me to read
his question. In what state do you find the Northwest angle, the Northern most spot in the lower 48. In what state do you find the northwest angle, which is the
northernmost spot in the lower 48?
Randall is someone who doesn't care about the NBA or with all
due respect the state of Ohio.
Can I still be considered a random?
Yeah, of course.
Okay.
Thank you.
That's the thing is people from all walks of life are joining the movement. It could be, could be you like movies,
I mean there's a lot of people that just enjoy movies. It's very, it's very inclusive, but aren't
you afraid that if you kind of expand the parameters too far then it doesn't make it special or? Not at
all. No, no. I mean I think there's obviously certain types of people that could never be
randomals like like a racist yeah
You heard it first no racist
Racists in the random old movement, and I feel like you have to be you can't be in curious
You know that's nice. I feel like I feel like you just have to be open to the world. What about can you be Canadian?
Absolutely, can you be a woman?
Absolutely, okay, is your wife a random? Oh not really I?
Think she's well, she's actually you know a horrific racist
No, she she she said to me the other day, she said, I'm the original random.
Oh, isn't that sweet?
That is.
Did that really happen?
Leave that up to the viewers at home.
I see we all have answers.
Why don't we flip them over, gang?
Yannis says Maine.
Cal says Washington.
Alyssa says Maine.
Tressa says Maine. Spencer, Minnesota.
Hansi, Minnesota. Brody, Maine. We have a correct answer in the room. It's Minnesota.
This unique geographic feature is actually separated from the rest of Minnesota by Lake
of the Woods, and you can only reach it by boat or by traveling through Canada.
The Northwest Angle extends into Canadian territory and is the result of a surveying error during border
negotiations between the United States and Great Britain in the late 18th century.
I don't think that's correct. I think it's early 19th century.
The Northwest Angle reaches to about 49 degrees, 23 minutes, North Latitude, making it the only part of the contiguous United States that extends north of the 49th parallel.
Good for us. Glad we got that little country. TRCP and ONEX, the algorithm flagged all of that as as inaccessible landlocked public lands
because you couldn't get there by the road system.
Well, as soon as Canada becomes the 51st state, that line's gonna move.
Let's not get into politics on this episode of the program, Brody.
Shouldn't it be called the North Central Angle?
Depends what you're talking about it being in relation to.
Well, yeah, exactly. Context.
Come on.
Northwest of what?
Question four fishing St.
Paul.
I'm telling you, man, there's nothing quite like it gives me chubby.
Just thinking about it.
You hit the call way off in the distance.
A time fires back.
You work them in watching his body language shift and cautious to committed.
Then that moment, the one every turkey hunter dreams about all winter
Is that gobbler locks eyes in your decoy and comes running in and if you're using the right decoy
You don't need to then settle for a 40 yard nervous shot
He's with the right decoy. You can get that bird in your lap putting on a wild
Aggressive turkey show.
I mean, I'm talking where he's fighting the decoy.
I've had him sitting there trying to mate with the decoy.
It's the best thing in the world, but to pull it off, you need realism.
Like you need decoys that don't just fool turkeys at a distance.
You want a decoy that fools him when he's up there at point blank range beating the snot out of it.
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the next level. What turquoise blue river, which the Alaska Department of Fish and Game calls, quote,
the most heavily fished river in the 49th state produced the world record angler caught
king salmon in 1985. Again, we're looking for a turquoise blue river that Alaska Department of Fish and Game calls the most heavily fished river in the state and
It produced the world record angler caught king salmon in
1985 that quick answers from Brody from Janice
Hansi's writing
Cal is in a deep meditative state. Oh, I fished the damn thing
And I can't remember the name. Are you sure?
Where were you?
Hmm. I'm just trying to stir up some. Oh Alaska. Put yourself back in your waiting boots for a moment
This river your waiting boots for a moment this river turquoise blue the most heavily
fished river in Alaska and it produced
the world record angler caught king
salmon in 1985 got an answer you
honest I do have you been there Yanni I
have Spencer's got an answer Hansi
Oh, I see you've added a star to I'm trying to I'm trying to help you. I know yeah
I think that give you a it does help. Thank you
Not yes, I was gonna say Tressa probably has an answer in this one. I've got a great little story. Oh
Melissa about the the old river oh this is brutal
Randall was actually gonna throw it to you for the flavor text I can yeah why
don't I do that I don't have much to add I was gonna yeah no I got some flavor text for you good. Oh, this is lovely
Back from my angling day cows got a marker to a whiteboard here always tapping it
Yeah, yeah, there's no writing going on. I think you can just write in front of everyone now
Yeah, I can there's no writing going on. I think you can just write in front of everyone now
Yeah, I'm just burning through marker like they're free
We're gonna cut back on the swearing kids friendly when I was looking for when I was looking for
listener questions
Came across an email Asking us not to swear so that the children can listen and I think that's a fair point. Yeah
Let's curb their growth by keeping them insulated from the real world good parenting
I'm a guilty party myself, so you know Cal are we gonna get there or we gonna
There's only a few rivers in Alaska.
Oh, dude!
Just go. Just go.
Just go!
It's gonna really...
Giannis.
There you go.
It says Kenai.
It's gonna burn him when he sees this.
Elissa says Jewel.
Dress says Kootenay.
I think I'm gonna choose...
Spencer says Mackenzie.
Hansi says Yukon.
And Brody says Kenai.
Wait, so what did Cal say?
Kenai.
Okay.
You got to do that. The correct answer is the Kenai. Wait, so what did Cal say? Kenai.
The correct answer is the Kenai.
This record-breaking- I wrote nothing, Phil. Thanks. Yeah
This record-breaking king salmon was caught by angler Les Anderson. It weighed 97 pounds 4 ounces and that's
44.1 kilograms for our international friends. The Kenai River is famous for its distinctive blue color, which comes from glacial silt, and for its exceptional salmon runs. It's located on the Kenai Peninsula.
And Janis has something to add.
We spent almost a year living in Fairbanks, and my in-laws flew over to explore a little bit of Alaska. We did a trip down
to the Kenai Peninsula, did some backpacking, fished the Anchor River a little bit and just
sort of as a stopover we said, oh we'll rent a little cabin on the Kenai, relax a little
bit, take showers after our adventures and then get up to the anchorage and get a flight out.
Well, we get there and the dude that owns the cabin lives right next door and when we get there,
he's like, hey, you guys like to fish? And my brother and I are like, what else do we do in life?
You know? And he's like, well, the sockeye are just screaming right now. Come on, I've got rods
and everything we need. And we're like, oh. and we literally didn't even take gear into the cabin.
We walk with this fella down to the river.
The next thing I know, it's two o'clock in the morning
and we've got a cooler full.
My brother-in-law quit fishing.
I was snagging and just throwing them to him.
He was filleting them and just putting them into the cooler.
And I think we went to bed somewhere
between three and four o'clock in the morning.
It was a great fishing experience
Mm-hmm. So no rest. No, no, I might have got a quick shower, but it was quite fun
There are many people who feel that this record
King salmon record world record will fall
To a fisher to a to a non native King salmon fishery in South America right now.
Really interesting.
Interesting.
Yep.
You may have seen videos of like these 80 pounders that are being caught down there.
They think the next world records coming from down there.
Tressie, you were very close, but you added OOT in the middle of Kina.
It's an artificial.
It's artificial.
I think like probably derived from maybe from farming or just introduced fish and I think
Could be wrong on this. I think those fish are coming out of the Atlantic Ocean. Mm-hmm
Not the Pacific interesting
question five this question is in the category of gear or
maritime freight. What is the busiest port on
the Great Lakes which shares its name with a square roll-top backpack designed to fit in the
bottom of canoes? What is the busiest port on the Great Lakes which shares its name with a square roll top backpack designed to fit in the
bottom of canoes. Oh Stumper Randall. Anybody do some... if only Carl were here.
Some backcountry canoe trips. Real staple of the Northwoods. Hmm. What the hell are
those things? Just think about your start going through
your great lakes ports, your major ports. That's a hint. I just threw that in because
I thought it was a fun tidbit. Question is actually about the packs
Spencer's writing hansi do you have an answer yeah, yeah, I'm not confident about it hmm, but
Spencer's got an answer not confident either don't know if this is a point many canoes here backpack
Hmm This might be a zero percenter. I don't think so. I think someone's got it in them.
All these Great Lakes boys in here. Yeah
Canoe packs they fit right in the bottom of your canoe. They're all square. Wow. Roll tops
Roll tops.
And I'll read this again, because I'm not sure if I read it again. What is the busiest port on the Great Lakes, which shares its name
with a square roll top backpack designed to fit in the bottom of canoes?
There's some listeners right now.
Oh, just jumping out of their pants.
Yeah, losing it. Mm hmm. They would
portage their way here and deliver the message if they could. Do you have an answer, Cal? It's the
wrong answer. You know, it's like this goot, like we can't tell you how far it is. We have to tell
you how far in rods that temperature
You know like well is it a mile like well, it's 16 rods
Just drives me insane. I don't like it. Yeah
Brody suffering are we waiting on me no I think and I honey honest oh Cal and Brody I
Can just they're gonna get
Not have no never mind. They ain't gonna get it I got it no I have no nevermind they
ain't got it get ready well I'm gonna write something down one two three go
flip them over gang Janice says Detroit Cal says Duluth Melissa says port dry
bag dry Spencer says Marias Hansi says port here on. Tressa says dry. Spencer says Marias.
Hansi says port Huron.
And Brody says Milwaukee.
We have a correct answer in the room.
The answer is Duluth.
Oh, dang it.
Duluth pass.
Now it makes sense.
Duluth Trading Company too.
Duluth, Duluth, Duluth is on fire.
That's a busy poor
Think it was a busy poor the port of Duluth superior
Located where Lake Superior meets the st. Louis River at the western tip of the Great Lakes handles more cargo by tonnage
Than any other Great Lakes all by tonnage. Yeah
Everything was iron or tack a night pell ore. Taconite pellets and shit like that.
Oh yeah, coal, grain, and other black commodities.
Stuff like that.
Stuff like that.
The Duluth Pack is a square roll-top backpack or bag originally designed to fit in the bottom
of canoes.
It's a classic piece of outdoor equipment that dates back to 1882 when it was created
by Camille Poyer in Duluth, Minnesota.
These packs are known for their durability
and have become iconic in canoe camping
and wilderness exploration,
particularly in the Boundary Waters region.
There's a great restaurant next to the Duluth Pack Company
in Duluth that has its own smokehouse
for Lake Superior whitefish.
I know what you're talking about.
Yeah, it's killer, and Lake Trout, oh man.
Well gang, I thought we'd do better on that.
I'm glad it wasn't a zero percenter.
We're now halfway through our game of trivia,
and that means it's time for a scoreboard update
from Phil the Engineer.
Oh my God, hey, hold on one second, I'm Duluth.
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, listeners.
TBT.
My cousin is going through med school, she's in Duluth. Yeah. Hey, listeners. TBT. My cousin is going through med school. She's in
Duluth. She needs a job. Just talking. So if you own a hospital. Well, I mean, she just needs to
make money. So bakery. Just so happens. Right in. Let me know. I was just talking to my uncle about
this. She needs a job. Isn't that that isn't trampled by from Duluth yeah
yeah I can get her concert tickets more to that than trivia also Frank Lloyd
Wright like one of the most famous architects in the world his only gas
station I think is located yeah we need to move it along Spencer I like mine
better Phil take me up to speed on this scoreboard. I'd love to. Alyssa, you are on the board with zero points.
Tressa and Spencer have one point a piece.
Janice, Cal, and Hansi are all tied up with two, and the only person
that's lining up with the Sydney index so far is Brody Henderson.
He has three points at halftime.
Interesting, gang.
How does a guy not remember the Kenai?
It's competitive here.
It's a competitive game.
I'm real excited for the second half.
Question six comes to us in the category of hunting.
What classic hunting bullet,
first tested by John Nosler in 1947,
gets its name from the internal structure that divides its two lead cores?
from the internal structure that divides its two lead cores.
What classic hunting bullet, first tested by John Nosler in 1947, gets its name from the internal structure that divides its two lead cores?
Shot a couple critters with this old bullet myself.
Still a great bullet. with this old bullet myself.
Still a great bullet.
It is a great bullet.
Cal, do you have an answer?
I'm telling you guys said great bullet.
Don't besmirch Jon Nosler's legacy here, Cal.
It's tried and true.
I can, I think, recount his story of what made him the whole that made him
Want to call it you this bullet. I'll let you do the flavor text
And then I'll check it against my flavor text
Not a fun little game of having other people do the the flavor text
Why I'm in a hard time with that
Boy, I'm having a hard time with that. Anyone have an aneurysm or something?
John Nosler would be a great name for like, and that would have been in a 70s adult movie.
And John Nosler.
How do you think he got his seed money for the bowling company?
Very...
It's legitimate work.
Seed money, double entendre, maybe. This is a good kids episode. What were you
saying Alyssa? I don't know this one. I tried to get Sydney, I tried to lead her into this
one. I hope your son's not gonna say, mom this is what I shot my giant bull with. Oh, well that was a big hint.
No, but it's not.
Oh, you know?
No, but I'm just thinking about how far away that bull was.
There wouldn't have been a good choice.
Wouldn't have been a good choice.
Although they are at the front half, it's a little splashy. Ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, ay, Spencer still right Excuse me. I didn't mean to clear my throat into the microphone
Well, Steve really opened the damn
Yeah
Spencer
Yeah done. Are we ready to flip him over?
Flip him over gang
Yanis show it to me partition
Calis's partition Elissa no answer Tressa, the Nosler. Spencer, no answer.
Hansi says Nosler, partition. Brody says partition. The correct answer is partition.
I've never heard of it.
Yeah, I believe Jon Nosler was shooting at a mud caked moose if I remember correctly and
Was wailing away and and nothing was dying and I can't remember if he recovered that moose or not
But he came home and said I got to make something better
Shot at seven times on a moose on British Columbia with a 300 H&H mind you
British Columbia with a 300 H&H mind you
The partition gets its name from the unique internal copper partition that separates the front and rear lead cores of the bullet
This innovative design was revolutionary for hunting ammunition because it allowed for controlled expansion while maintaining weight retention The front core is designed to expand upon impact for tissue damage while the partition prevents the bullet from breaking apart completely. The rear core remains
intact and ensures deep penetration and energy transfer. I would take the
Accubond over the partition 1,000% of the time. I've killed a lot of stuff with
Accubond's. Killed my first elk with a partition. I killed one of my first deer with a partition I killed one of my first
partitions actually it resembled John Nosler's scenario yeah and the the fact
that the bullet breaks apart it was the thing that made me be like I don't want
to shoot but it doesn't and only the front end breaks apart yeah but I found
a pedal that peeled off and literally like tumbled down the loin and I was like oh
this defeated the purpose of killing this deer. I don't know the bullets been around for...
I shot my first... How long? Yeah, dude, do your math. I shot my first bull elk with 130 grain
partitions out of a 270. Shot it a lot of times. Salisbury steak fans. Salisbury steak, exactly, pre-ground.
Question seven, this comes to us from the realm of woodsmanship and I'm
gonna use the word realm again in this question. In the realm of wilderness
medicine, what do the letters HA stand for in acronyms like the conditions HACE and HAPE which occur to travelers in
mountainous terrain. What do the letters HA stand for in acronyms like HACE and
HAPE which occur to travelers in mountainous terrain? See some writing on the boards here I can tell you the last two letters
can you really but I can't remember the first two mmm well that doesn't get me
any points but you can do flavor text if you've maybe seen the movie K2 with Chris O'Donnell
Ah, oh, I got I gotcha gotcha this this condition plays a prominent role in the plot of that movie along with the drug dexamethasone
Hmm just a corticosteroid. I'll be the first time I'm confident. I'm not even that confident. I think
Do we all Brody's writing no Cal's Cal's reconsidering his answer
This question seven Phil it is Chris O'Donnell in k2 isn't it? Oh you're asking the wrong guy
Exactly the right guy no yeah
Why don't we in this room are we ready to flip our boards over, Cal?
Flip them over, gang.
Janus.
Everybody except for Tressa says high altitude.
I like hasty though.
I like hasty too.
The correct answer is high altitude.
Hansi, what are the other two letters?
Pulmonary edema.
And cerebral edema. That's way harder to know. Yeah letters? Pulmonary edema. And cerebral edema.
Cerebral edema. Okay.
High altitude cerebral edema and high altitude pulmonary edema are serious medical conditions that can affect people traveling in mountainous regions.
Both HACE and HAPE are potentially life-threatening and can develop when people ascend to high elevations too quickly without proper acclimatization.
Haste involves swelling of brain tissue
due to fluid leakage,
while hape involves fluid accumulation in the lungs.
Both require immediate medical attention
and descent to lower elevations.
Yeah, but that's the beauty is like,
you get them to lower elevations,
that's the first thing.
Nature provides the cure
Hmm looks like Chris O'Donnell was not in K to the ultimate high
Michael a bunch of people who are just not in the public consciousness anymore, but Michael Bean Matt Craven It's Chris O'Donnell in any sort of mountain movie. You know I'll do some more research check back
I can just picture Chris O'Donnell up in the mountains.
In any event, question eight. In the realm of fishing, what is the common term for a four-sided lead weight with a point at one end, often used by shore anglers for fishing stationary baits?
Often used by shore anglers for fishing stationary baits
What is the common term for a four-sided lead weight with a point at one end
Often used by shore anglers for fishing stationary baits quick answer out of Brody. I
Put this one for question eight instead of question ten. I see that keep things interesting an answer from
Spencer here
Randall you were thinking of the film vertical limit yeah yeah yeah god
embarrassing we can't forget cliffhanger amongst that genre yeah that's a
fantastic yes it is.
And then what's the Clint Eastwood mountain climbing movie
where they- The Eiger Sanction?
There it is, Eiger Sanction.
Oh wow.
That's a killer one.
That's a screaming good one.
Yeah, and then they made it,
the more recent one is a movie of Everest
about the John Crack Hour, about the 96th Everest disaster.
But I never saw it.
I think I had a pretty stacked cast too.
It's got a stacked cast. Oh yeah, it's got Jake G got Jake G in there it's loaded Benicio del Toro might be in
it I don't know who plays Beck Weathers is it is it on a tangent? Well Jake Gyllenhaal is in there
yeah Beck Weathers is I don't think he plays old Beck but it's a good actor
trust me I trust you. Phil you on IMDB right now?
Yeah.
Okay.
In the meantime, why don't we flip over our boards, gang?
Yana says pyramid.
Cal says pyramid.
Lys says deadweight.
Tracer says crank.
Spencer says pyramid.
Hansi says pyramid.
And Brody says pyramid.
The correct answer is pyramid
Sure anglers typically use pyramid sinkers because the pointed design helps anchor the weight in sand or mud preventing it from rolling in
Surf or current this allows for more stationary bait presentation while fishing from beaches piers or banks
I have lost a great number of pyramid sinkers by snagging them on the bottom of the Little Miami River. Hmm.
Guys, you guys ever use pyramid sinkers? Yeah. Yeah. That's,
I feel like that's something the host does.
The little Miami that's in Ohio, right? Yes. Yes. What are you catching there?
Catfish catfish. Oh, anything you want. Catfish, carp drum.
That's not quite anything I want. Yeah.
Phil, what are we doing on Beck Weathers?
Well, I'm looking up the cast for the 2015 film Everest.
Just because I remember there being a lot of it was Josh Brolin.
I was not Benicio del Toro.
I was giving some Sicario stuff mixed up.
I'm pretty sure that Josh Brolin plays Beck Weathers.
Jason Clark, John Noxler.
Hot Nights.
Phil, we've got two questions left
How about a scoreboard update as is customary and in fact required by Spencer's hosting guidelines?
I would love to Randall. Whoa, look at this game. Everyone's on the board. Alyssa and Tressa have one point
Spencer falling from the last game. He's got three
But the players left in the game after question eight are Yannis, Cal and
Hansi with five and Brody Henderson in first place with six points.
Now, for those of you following along at home.
My average winning answer score is an eight.
So if Brody gets the next two questions correct, we'll be hitting that right on the nose.
All right. That's that's what you look for in a host. Just solid, reliable.
Question nine. Yep.
Spencer.
Question nine. This this is in the realm of public lands.
Under the Public Land Survey System, how many six hundred forty acre
sections make up a township?
Under the public land survey system. How many 640 acre
sections make up a township?
A lot of stumped
faces in the room.
Phil, who did Gyllenhaal play?
He played Scott Fisher.
Oh, yeah
Under the public land survey system how many
Sections make up a township
No guys ever you ever turned on the township
The section township range filter on your on X yes, yes, but before on X
Like got to the states that I really cared about I owned a stock of stack of plant books
Like those were so valuable to me. That's what I'd asked for for Christmas
So Santa
Usually did pretty good. Yeah, I died. They still somewhere around. But then on X made them irrelevant.
What did the Santa at the mall kind of look to give you when you showed up
with a list of quadrangle maps?
You say, well, what's the plat book?
Mm hmm. So I'm guessing based on that, but I don't know.
Spencer, Hansi Brody have answers.
Oh, Hansi doesn't have an answer.
God, the reversible whiteboard got me again. Yana says an answer cow I
Wrote something down. He's got something down. I'm thinking Tress and Alyssa
I'm nostalgic for those plat book days that made it a lot harder to track down the right person
But you can't be Don X
Well gang Hansi you know okay fine. I'm not trying to pressure you I just I feel like earlier
I feel like when we were two questions in this episode people were giving me a hard time for taking too long
Mmm, and now we're at question nine and I'm really feeling the heat. Yeah
I think this has gone well for the most part. Because I hosted so long
We're running into lunchtime and I think you're getting a little hanger
I've got some I've got some meatballs upstairs. I'm gonna dig into go to Chang meatballs. I've got some mallard duck legs
Why don't we flip them over gang Yana says a hundred cows is 10
Alyssa one Tressa one
Spencer 32
Hansi 24 Brody Brody, 25.
Gang, that's a 0 percenter.
DAAAHHHH!
Real close. The answer is 36.
Yeah, that was pretty close, Spencer.
Under the Public Land Survey System established by the Land Ordinance of 1785,
a township contains 36 sections,
with each section being
100, or excuse me, 640 acres.
The standard
township is 6 miles by 6 miles square, it's divided into 37, I already said that,
sections within a township are numbered in a specific pattern starting with
section 1 in the northeast corner and then proceeding west to section 6, then
south and east to section 12, then to section 18 and so on and alternating patterns
With section 36 being in the southeast corner now
What's interesting to know is that states received certain?
Numbers of sections from each township as state trust lands to support public education and other designated beneficiaries
It was it like 16 and 32 well
other designated beneficiaries. Was it like 16 and 32? Well it's different between the states. The next sentence. These allotments varied and became
increasingly more generous as new states were admitted to the Union. For instance,
Congress granted Montana and Idaho section 16 and 36 of each township while
New Mexico and Arizona received two 16 32 and 36. So as the country grew west I think Ohio was a bad example of like
They sold all their school lands
Yeah, almost immediately and so then they're like alright
We got to make sure folks have these things and use them and so that was how the the school trust lands came about
And I would say some of us
Us meeting Americans are still trying to get rid of these school trust lands as we speak.
School trust and trust lands are a little weird in that I think their objective is to like make
as much money as possible, which can lead to things like sales. If they decide like the,
our best use of this thing would be to sell it. I, you know, certain States, the way they're,
they're, they're obligated to manage them for
Maximum yield. Yeah. Yeah, so it's unique
Versus the other public lands were familiar like if your brain functions in a way to where you're like land doesn't
Grow in value. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. We're making more land. I'm sure somewhere sure
Then it makes sense to sell. Mm-. If you can wrap your head around that.
I thought you didn't want to get political in this episode, Randall. This isn't politics.
This is just American. This is just America. For those of us at this table in the state
of Montana, 1.25 million acres. Yep, right now. What they're trying to sell right now.
At quote unquote fair market value,
which the same sons of guns,
like to every time there's an easement bill in this state,
groups show up and they say,
hey, we can't give an easement in perpetuity
cause it's based on fair market value
and we can't see into the future.
So how could you ever come up with what's fair right now for the future?
Those same people right now are saying, hey, let's sell 1.25 million acres based on fair
market value.
And it drives me insane.
Now before we go to our...
31.
Oh no, we've got another question. I know, but I don't think anybody can
someone like you guys all can type. All right, let's keep playing. Before we go to our final
question, here's a quick rundown of the correct answers for you folks playing along. Number one,
Humboldt. Number two, who could forget Salisbury steak?
Number three, Minnesota.
Number four, Kenai.
Number five, Duluth.
Number six, Partition.
Number seven, High Altitude.
Number eight, Pyramid.
Number nine, 36.
Now, the score at this point is Brody six,
Hansi five, Cal five, Janis 5. So this last question really
could send us-
I had 6 right to left.
And then you got that one wrong.
Yeah.
Oh wait, that's correct.
Yeah.
It was a 0 percenter.
Classic one tie, we all tie a situation.
Bro, I just blocked that from my memory.
So this is a really important question, is point for them. And I think you're
gonna like it. This is our listener question of the week from Brian Green. For submitting this great
question, Brian will receive a board game signed by the crew. And if you want a chance to win
listener question of the week, then send your question to trivia at the meatater.com. This last question comes to us in the realm of cooking.
What nine-letter side dish, which gets its name from the Algonquin tribes of
New England, can be described as a medley of grains, legumes, vegetables, and
sometimes meats? Most common ingredients include sweet corn, beans, tomatoes, and
peppers.
What nine- we got a lot of- boy I didn't think that many people would jump on their boards.
What nine-letter side dish gets its name from the Algonquin
tribes of New England. It can be described as a medley of
grains, legumes,
vegetables, and sometimes meats. Most common ingredients include sweet corn, beans, tomatoes, and peppers.
Mmm, sounds good. Nine-letter side dish. You write the longest questions of any
host, Randall. You you cornered that market well
This was written by Brian Green, and that's why it's our listener question of the week
I just think yeah more bang for the buck for the listener really longer the question
I I believe I added the most common ingredients at the end as a little I didn't think it would I
Didn't think it was easy enough with it's a good idea to write the questions so long that by the time Randall gets to the
end of the question, you forgot what the beginning was about.
How many sections are in a township?
Thirty-six!
See, variety.
That's what you're looking for in a host.
Variety and length of questions.
The spices. Does anybody know this? Variety love that's what you're looking for in a host variety and length of questions
The spice is anybody know this I do Brody knows it
He's gonna win if he thinks yeah, if he's wrong though
Maybe Yanis knows it. I think Yanis. I got a feeling Yanis knows Yeah, I had a word come into my brain and has nine letters in it. I'm going for it
Going with it. I really liked is- I'm going for it. Going with it.
I really liked Brian's question.
He submitted two.
And I forget what the other one was,
but this one really stood out to me.
It's a great question.
I wish when they wrote in though,
they provided a little flavor text too.
Let me, I was gonna get to that.
Brian provided me with some flavor text.
Oh, whoa.
I should have provided-
Does anybody provide like a page and a half, three pages of flavor text. I'll have people send in entire scripts. Well, here you go
Okay. Yeah done
No, no Brian Brian sent flavor text and even
included a link to
recipe on the meat eater comm
Right I
Didn't you ever know do you know every recipe on the meat eater? Oh wow Well now I don't have this one right I didn't like this stuff
Do you know every recipe on themedia.com?
Didn't like this stuff when I was little
Alright again
I don't know if I've ever had it
Why don't we flip them over
Yannis says Sackatash
Cal says Suckatash
Melissa says Goulash
Tristan says Cowboy Caviar
Spencer says Cornucopia Hans Hansi says succotash,
Brody says succotash.
Who spelled it right?
You did.
No one else.
Yeah, I didn't put that O in there.
Let's see, let's see.
What is the S-U-C-C?
You guys got nine letters.
You got nine.
S-U-C-C-O. Oh had to throw that other C in there
Sukkotash comes from the Narragansett word
Sokwatash which was described by British explorer John Carver in
1787 as quote unripe corn and beans in the same state boiled together with bears flesh the fat of which
Moistens the pulse and renders it beyond comparison delicious." I got that from
Brian. This next bit I added. I can't wait to use that you know that dinner was
lovely it really moistened my pulse. Yeah. Famously the Looney Tunes and Mary
Melodies character Sylvester J. Pussycat would often
exclaim suffering succotash when he was frustrated, especially during his failed attempts to catch
Tweety Bird.
The phrase became one of his most recognizable catchphrases along with his characteristic
lisp.
For a succotash recipe, check out Wade Chong's recipe for miso butter basted cobia with summer
succotash on TheMe eater dot com good flavor text
Yeah, Brian killed it. I thought succotash had
Squash in there. I think it can have whatever you want. You can have whatever you want be a cornucopia
I was I liked that I thought that was too many
Hopped into my the big thing is you have some carbs and you have some whatever beans are
Legumes, you know, yeah, there's some there's some magical combination of nutrition
Brody
If I'm not mistaken, you are the winner of this game of meat eater trivia to what were the cause
Would you like to donate your how did we deplete our LA LAI fund with the
corner crossing? Well, no, we're, I mean,
we're building it. Yeah, I donate in part to
that. I think when I won the championship,
good reminder. Yeah, I think I don't recall.
Let's throw it in there. Meat eater land
access initiative. Fantastic. Fantastic. $500 to the MeatEater land access initiative. Well, gang, this was fun.
Join us next week for more MeatEater trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins.
Thanks, Randall.
Tiebreaker.
Thanks, Randall.
Yeah, Spencer from South Dakota, he's the host using those smooth mellow tones. He lays
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