The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 695: MeatEater Radio Live! 7,000-Year-Old Poison Darts, Fast Food Walleye, and Lip Tattoos

Episode Date: April 25, 2025

Hosts Spencer Neuharth, Seth Morris, and Austin "Chilly" Chleborad talk with archaeologist Bryon Schroeder of the Center for Big Bend Studies about uncovering an ancient weapon system, take in some listener hot tips, go fishing for one minute with Jesse Vadala of Trout Unlimited, play in another game of MeatEater Price is Right, and chat with Amanda Fairbairn Kimery about a unique tattoo she maybe shouldn't regret. Watch the live stream on the MeatEater Podcast Network YouTube channel. Connect with The MeatEater Podcast Network MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTubeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's noon for our friends in Platt, South Dakota on Thursday, April 24th and we're live for Meat Eater HQ in Bozeman. I'm your host Spencer joined today by by Seth and Chilly on today's show. We'll interview Brian Schroeder about North America's oldest weapon kit that was just discovered in Texas. Then we've got a hot tip off about recycled waders and fleshing furs, followed by one minute fishing with Trout Unlimited in Connecticut. After that we'll play MeatEater's Prices Right and finally we'll interview Amanda Fairbairn Kimmery about one of the coolest tattoos I've

ever seen. First Seth I want to talk to you about this very successful weekend of hunting you just had. How many turkeys died? Well between my wife and I four died. Four turkeys. Yep. You boys are gonna be eating good. You and your wife can be eating good on white meat for the rest of the year. Yeah Yeah, we were somewhere in America hunting and killed some turkeys and then had some time to kill did some exploring and When did little Spencer Newhorst rock hounding Seth you're getting right to the part that I want to talk to you

Yeah, I thought I was gonna have to listen to turkey hunting store. Seth, you're getting right to the part that I want to talk to you about. Yeah. I thought I was going to have to listen to turkey hunting stories for three minutes. Well, I can tell you them. Let's talk about the rock in your head. Yeah, let's talk about that. Yeah, I found a big rock that had a little bit of this ammonite sticking out of it. And in time, I didn't know what was in there.

I could just tell that there was something going on. So I threw that rock against another rock a little too hard. Yep you threw this soft rock against a harder rock. Yes and broke it open and this is what I found inside. Seth in his hand has a softball size sea critter. This is an ammonite. Ammonite had one of the most successful runs in the history of the planet. They were around, they showed up in the fossil record like 450 million years ago, and then they disappeared around 66 million years ago for the same event that killed the dinosaurs. Now in between that time, they survived all kinds of crazy stuff. There were other extinction events

that happened where like 98% of the life on Earth disappeared and they survived that. Really? Yeah. Ammonites made it through. Around 200 million years ago they started to struggle a little bit and the event that killed the dinosaurs is also what killed them. And this ammonite is wonderful.

They at one point, or at probably multiple points, were the most populous animal on earth. There was more of them than anything else living in our oceans. And you should watch the documentary prehistoric planet. If you've seen the regular documentary called like planet earth. Oh yeah. Um, there's a prehistoric planet one they do. And there's like a whole little section on ammonites. Uh, it's a ton of fun.

And this one, Seth has a beautiful knacker on it. That's what that little sheen is called. Oh, yeah. What you see on a seashell that you pick up in the ocean. Show that thing to the camera a little more. Spin it around. A wonderful ammonite. Now, there's some of those that are the size of your fingernail all the way up to ones

that are nine foot wide. And this is a big one, Seth. Yeah, I have another rock that I had found with a couple small ones just kind of sticking out like poking out but yeah, that's the biggest one I've ever found and Another thing I find with this what's the shine called again knacker knacker. I believe it's a baculite Yes. Yeah. Yeah, so we find those With that shine on there too a similar.ite? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So we find those, um, with that shine on there too. A similar, yeah. A similar type of animal. Yeah.

Do you know what would have made them so successful? I don't know. Um, I'm not sure. I think, um, they obviously, if we think about the things that are successful now, like a coyote or a cockroach, they're able to occupy a ton of different niches. Like if one food source or one type of habitat disappeared, they just keep on going with something else. I'm assuming it's something similar with aminites

that made them so successful. That's a special fossil, Seth. Yeah, it's one of the better ones in my collection. Where does your collection live? It lives in my living room. Uh, we, Kelsey and I made my wife, Kelsey and I made, um, these like shelves we call it the Morris museum. Um, just all the cool stuff we found over the years.

And it looked like that thing was found inside of, um, a cannon ball. There's a whole river in North Dakota called the cannon ball river. Um, and, and basically that's like mud that would kind of roll in the waves. And sometimes that would pick up fossils like this. So that's probably what happened there is that this thing died, got rolled up in some mud and then just got blown around on a windy shoreline for a while. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's I don't know. It's cool. Like you I've seen videos of people breaking those open

and like, you never know what's gonna be inside Yeah But yeah, this one I got lucky with this one. What a weekend that giant fossil and four turkeys four turkeys Yeah, well at the beginning of show there I shouted out Platt, South Dakota Chile fellow, South Dakota and nicest people I ever met on earth are from Platt, South Dakota Oh, they're great. Yeah People I ever met on earth are from Platte, South Dakota. I think. Oh, they're great.

Yeah. Yeah, they kind of have a bigger footprint than I thought. I went fishing up in Alaska in a town called St. Petersburg. And the guy who took us out, his name was Oli. But his parents originated from Platte, South Dakota, moved to St. Petersburg.

He now lives there with his family, but he goes back every single year. And then I got people that I grew up with I live over there great bird hunting Yeah, love that area fish. We all say what goes on in plat everything right on the Missouri River Yep, so they got fishing Deer hunting they turn young. Oh, yeah. Yeah sounds like a paradise. Yeah, we love you plat Yeah, sounds like a paradise. Yeah, we love you plat. I mean chili shout out plat All right, let's move on with the show joining us on the line First is Brian Schroeder the director of the Center of Big Bend studies He's here to talk about what may be North America's oldest intact weapon system

Which was just discovered in West Texas Brian. Welcome to the show Thanks. Thanks for having me. First thing, Brian, set the scene for us by describing Big Bend National Park. Okay, so these are found just outside of the park a little bit and they're right on the edge of a big cliff and it's called the Alameda Creek drainage and the Alameda Creek drainage has had live water and so you're you know we're looking at the large of a big desert environment at the base of a large creek and a dried-up stream. So besides the weapon kit that we'll get to in a little bit what other notable finds have archaeologists had in this area?

So the regions had a lot of stuff found throughout the years. I mean that's kind of what lured me there. There's just a mammoth tusk that's rattling around in the news. Our center just excavated that. But for the most part it's stuff like this, just lots of weapon kits that, just not weapon kits, but weapons in particular. So it just preserves perishable stuff really really well because it's so hot and dry and so that's that's the key for that area why like ancient things are so well preserved in West Texas yeah yeah you get really good preservation where there's where you it's either hot or dry or it's protected it's the same thing you know microorganisms need some stuff to live and when you remove water from that equation you get really good

preservation so yeah that's how that's how they preserve. Okay tell us about the day of discovery and describe the cave and why your team was in that spot. So this is we're actually there because the cave and why your team was in that spot. So we're actually there because the cave has been collected for years by amateur groups. And we were there actually because we didn't think we would find anything. We were there because we thought that it was really impacted. And what we wanted to do is we wanted to open up a cave and date the sediments so we could see how much time was left.

We could understand the sediments and the pesky archaeology record wouldn't get in our way. So it's really collapsed. It's been very dug. It's not this Hollywood cave that you walk into. It's been pretty impacted. Okay, so tell us about like when the weapons were discovered how close to each other were they did you

know what they were was everyone stoked and giving high fives out? Oh so yeah so we actually dug in a portion of the cave that was really collapsed and we thought that that would be the best example to find all of the sediments we were looking for and some of the crew thought we were crazy because it was really tucked up back underneath the rock and we started excavating under that and we ended up finding four of them in 2020. That was the first year that we found them and one of them we could tell that it was a piece of the dart but the other ones really didn't make any sense.

And so we were really excited about the dart, obviously, but we did not know what the other pieces in part were. And then we found a piece of it every year after that, as we expanded out the excavation. So we've literally found pieces and parts since 2020. Okay, tell us about what this weapon kit fully consists of besides a dart. So it's got it's really interesting because it's got different

components and so it shows us how modular the hunting kits were and so we have we have at least four stone tipped four shafts that would have won the end of the at ladle system. We have the at ladle itself that's missing the spur so the spur actually snapped off of it and then they discarded it back there with this. We have footwear so we have we have sandals that they left it there. We have some kind of antler piece that's clearly for like retooling the stone that goes on there. And then we have a what we call, people call it rabbit sticks, but the disciplines started called straight flying boomerangs. So a hunting boomerang. And then

we have wood tipped darts that probably were a poison delivery device, but that's conjecture right now. We've got to do the science on that, but that's what we think they are. So we have all these modular pieces. Oh, and then we have the knock-ins of the darts themselves. So the only thing we're missing out of the kit is the actual sleeve that the foreshafts would have fit into. So we have almost the complete hunting kit at a moment in time, almost 7,000 years ago.

And you can see a photo of this hunting kit right now on the Meteor podcast YouTube channel. What do we know about the person who left these behind? Did they live there? Were they just passing through? What do you guys think? So that's the part we're trying to understand right now, because we have there's a small little hearth back there and there's four copper lights back there. So there's four pieces of essentially human poop. And it seems like somebody just went back there, went through

their weapon kit, they cut the fletching off of the back of the nocks, so they salvaged their nocks, they were retooling their darts and then they left the pieces of the four shafts that they couldn't service because all the four shafts are split. So it seems like one person passing through, but it seems like the intent was to come back because there's a there's a pronghorn hide that's been folded like they were cutting pieces off of it and they were maybe like maybe servicing some stuff you know clothing I don't know but then they they folded it up and they put it on a rock and it seems like they meant to get back to that they never they just never got back

to there so I my guess would be passing through and probably one maybe two people not many It's a really really small little crook in the cave like it's not Yeah, one person laying back there would be crowded Brian Seth here got a question for you Are you guys done with the excavation or could there be more stuff in there that you guys haven't found yet? No, so we're actually at the beginning. We're not in the beginning. We've been digging for 2020, but now that we've understand this period, this time period better back there, we're

not to the time period we want to get to. So we want to get to the early record. We really want to look at the paleo record and that's what we're trying to get to but we keep finding all this stuff. So we're five years into a collaborative research with the University of Kansas. The University of Kansas actually sponsors it and we're going to keep going for the foreseeable future. So we're kind of midway through, I would suppose. Brian, do we know what was in the fossilized crab? No, that's one of the things we need to look at. It's definitely fiber, but there's kind of a startling amount of bone in it. And that's one of the things we need to do.

We just dated them, and we really didn't think they'd be the same age as the deposit, but they're the exact same age as the hunting kit. Wow. So all that's the exact same age. So that's gonna be amazing because that'll give us direct... I mean that'll tell us exactly what, you know, at least they were doing for a moment in time back there. And what do you think the weapons were used to hunt?

So I think they were... that's what the coolest thing is, I think they're hunting different things, right? So there's a stone tipped point that goes on the end of the dart. That's for one type of game probably medium game I mean, it's pretty sexy to say that you know that toolkit maybe killed the pronghorn that was in there But that I definitely don't know that's just you know That's me editorializing it and then the darts the poison if they are poison darts the wood tips Those are for something else entirely. And then there's a straight flying boomerang, which is, we think it's for small game, but the faculty that I work with do a lot of experimental studies and they've played around with those.

And they think they could be pretty deadly for other stuff. So it's definitely a medium mammal size toolkit and maybe small mammals. Definitely pronghorn. We don't know if there was bison out in West Texas. That's one of the open questions. So, I mean, certainly medium game and small game. You said that the idea that they are darts

is sort of a hypothesis right now. What makes you think that they are poison darts and what kind of poison would they have been using? So that's one of the things that my colleagues at the center want to really look at. They're the ones that have really been like showing me more the sighting that a lot of indigenous groups knew how to hunt with poison and they knew how to make poison compounds and what exactly what it would be I don't I don't know but we just actually got the lab equipment to start testing that so we're actually gonna start doing that making they're gonna start making

different poison compounds and testing it against that with residue and seeing if we can figure out what they're doing. But the wood part of it, I think, is what we think. There's clearly coated in some kind of resin, and they've been sort of looking for this parallel in the archaeological record, that if there's these wooden tips, that'd be a great way to deliver poison into animals. And lo and behold, this cave has at least three of them.

So we can start testing that hypothesis. And what kind of wood are those tools made of? That's the, we've, so the only thing we've despeciated as far as wood goes right now is the actual atlatl itself. And that is, it's an acacia, it's probably local mesquite. I mean, it's absolutely jaw-dropping. I'll never find another atlatl in my life. And it's a really, really old atlatl,

but it's as far as things that they could make, it's probably a 15-minute job for them. It's a pretty simple atlatl, and it's just a split. It's just split, so that one we know is Mesquite. And the radiocarbon dating process for wood, is that the exact same as it is for rock? So radiocarbon dating, it works on the organic. The rock we date differently.

The rock, you can date residues off it if there's organic compounds, but you can only date organic compounds. So that's what makes the weapon kit so cool is that it's a direct decision those people killed those trees to make that weapon and so you're actually they are the ones that actually killed the the organic materials to make that kit so we're dating a direct human decision. Yeah so it was it was declared by you guys I think that this is the oldest intact weapon system in North America. What discovery now has the silver medal? We talked a lot about this.

So again, my colleagues at the center, we were talking about this and there's certainly older weapons like individual weapons and there's probably some stuff in the Yukon. That's as It's probably older, but we we all can think that the second oldest complete system is probably from white dog Dave You get the full atlantel system. That's two 2,500 years somewhere in there, so I mean we're getting a significant time difference and this weapon kit is completely different than the one in White Dog. So that's really interesting to see how that technology evolved over 4,000 years. What comes next for this project? We're going to keep going. I mean the goal of the project is, I, the 6500 year old weapon kit is really, really cool.

But what we really want to do is know if there's earlier deposits in the cave and if the cave was used by earlier folks and we just haven't gotten there in the excavation. So next is continuing to go down and see if we get earlier deposits and we have a paleo record there and we can get the initial entry of humans into North America. So that's next. Keep digging. Well thank you for joining us, Brian. Congrats on the exciting find and good luck with the research to come. Thanks. Thanks for having me. Have a good one. Thanks, Brian. Thanks, Brian.

Thanks. Yeah. Boy, we've got a real Spencer episode so far. A lot of rock out on top. Yeah. I bet you're stoked about this. We'll see if the listeners stick around with us or not. You sailed beyond the horizon in search of an island scrubbed from every map. You battled Krakens and navigated through storms. Your spade struck the lid of a long lost treasure chest. While you cooked a lasagna. There's more to imagine when you listen.

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Oh, well, what should we call it? I don't know. What is it exactly? Well, it's a lot like Wordle. Players get six tries to solve a five letter word from categories like hunting, fishing, animals, nature. Then you get to compare your score to the scores from the MeatEater crew, and new games will drop every Monday morning on our website. I think the perfect name would kind of sound like Wirtle. You know, have two syllables and end with L-E. Oh, and it has to be an outdoorsy word.

Hmm. Introducing MeatEater Turtle. It's like Wirtle, but better. You can play it right now at TheMeatEater.com slash games. Alright our next segment is Hot Tip Off. H-O-T-T-I-P off Turn your head and give cop What's that face? Don't use cop There aren't any words that rhyme with cop H-O-T-T-I-P-OP Let's all do a hot tip-op

H-O-T-T-I-P-OP Let's all do a hot tip-op God, Phil. That song is so good. See if you got Phil back there, Bob, in his head. He composed it. Phil's been trying to line up a karaoke date in the next few weeks.

You know what? I got to give the credit to another man in this room. And that would be Chilly. He's the one who brought it back up to my attention. And I'm glad he did. We're trying to make it happen. So if there's anyone at the company watching, hit up that group Slack.

Let me know what day works best for you. What's the group Slack called? It's just called karaoke. I'm just trying to bring the people together, you know. What are you gonna sing, Chilly? In these tough times. What am I gonna sing? Yeah.

Oh, there's so many songs out there. Creed! Yeah, Goat Creed, you know. See, the problem I run into at karaoke nowadays is, I'll try to make this quick, is you get either really, really old people or you get really, really young people. So you're either gonna offend. Trying to bridge that gap.

Yeah, you're gonna offend some old people or you're gonna sing a song that young people don't know, which is, it's a fickle game you gotta play. Okay, so give us an example though of what you think you might sing. Oh, man, you know, you can't go wrong with like some Tyler Childers. My actually go-to song is

neon moon by Brooks and done because I can do this thing where I Find this out I can do like make you know Ronnie Dunn's voice a little bit I can kind of do that. Mm-hmm. And so the old people in the crowd They can appreciate the young kids just have no clue what's going on So the last time we went out for karaoke after kickball I sang the I was gonna say I think that's a I've heard Spencer sing That one. Mm-hmm choice good song good choice All right hot tip off is where two listeners go head-to-head with competing pieces of advice and after we hear each tip We'll declare which one is hotter

If you have a hot tip take a one-minute video on your phone and email it to radio at the meat eater com with the Subject line hot tip off. This week it's Adam Smith versus Brian Nisly and they're competing to win a three-year OnX Elite membership in a Moultrie Edge 2 Cellcam. Alright let's hear this week's hot tips. Adam Smith. Hey there, Adam Smith coming at you with a hot fishing tip that is budget friendly. I love to wade fish, but I don't normally use waders or need waders, but I do like the storage they provide. And so I was looking for a chest rig,

a weatherproof, water-resistant chest rig to take wading. And as I was doing that, I remembered that I had an old messed up pair of waders that was leaking. So instead of taking hundreds or dozens of dollars to spend on a new piece of gear, I took some scissors, took that old pair of waders, and just cut them in half right at the belly. Now the top half of that wader serves as a chest rig. I got water resistant storage here for phone wallet keys. In between this and my fishing vest everything is right on me. Easy access and if I take a dip in the water or the weather turns real rainy I know I can still keep my

essentials dry. So I was able to do that without buying a new piece of gear. So let me know what you think. Budget friendly fishing tip. Thank you. Brian Knisley. This is Brian Knisley, Northwest of Pennsylvania. We've got a hot tip for you guys that are question coons or other super greasy animals. Always a challenge keeping your beam clean. Once you start pushing the fat off the skirt Get your beam all greased up use paper towels or something to wipe it, but Paper towels are getting expensive fur is cheap, and I learned this from a fur buyer years ago Get yourself some sawdust

Working with sawmills I get it for free but get it at sawmills or woodworking shops anywhere that sell sawdust. I work in a saw mill so I get it for free, but get it at saw mills or woodworking shops anywhere that sells sawdust, for animal bedding or whatever. Throw a handful of sawdust on there. Wipe it around. Soaks up that grease and wipes right off. You're good to go. Works for your hands too.

Super cheap and effective. Thank you. And again, they are competing for a three year OnX Elite membership in a Moultrie Edge II cell cam. Now Brian was kind of going for Seth's heart there. He's from Pennsylvania wearing a bear grease hat, talking about fleshing, what do you have there, raccoon? Raccoon.

Now I'm gonna have to rely on you here, Seth. Is that a hot tip about putting sawdust down? That is a hot tip. It's a hot tip that I've been doing for years. Oh, okay. Decades, actually. Where'd you learn it? In Pennsylvania, when I was Fleshing Coons.

Yeah, from a fur buyer. Of the percentage of folks who are out there Fleshing Coons, what percentage do you think know about that hot tip? Is it common common knowledge I would say it's fairly common okay yeah but I could be wrong I just the guys I ran around with did it experience yeah they were legit but you know there might be some folks starting out that don't know about that and it's a great you're an aspiring trapper, right? Did you know about the sawdust trick? I didn't know um okay. Yeah, there's I I don't know a whole lot about

Fleshing I've only done it a number of times Seth has been a part of that process pretty heavily But now for so for me that is a hot tip. Yeah, okay I was more interested in his his setup that he had going on. His beam was pretty sweet. He was ready to go in there. Now, Phil, are you doing a poll of our audience? I am doing it.

I've got a live poll in the chat right now. Phil's gonna let that go for a few more minutes. It's kinda tight, so let your voice be heard. I will say with the first hot tip. Adam Smith. Yep. I love the idea. I was looking you know, I loved the idea. I was looking for it to be a little shorter, you know,

to peak my interest. You know, if it was me, it'd be probably just that. Just the tube top? Just the tube top for chili. Yeah, I like that. You'll get to, you can really appreciate these hot tips if you're watching this on our YouTube channel. And again, we have Adam Smith with the Recycled Waiters

versus Brian and doing the fur trapping. While our audience continues to vote on this, I wanna tell you folks that we need more Hot Tips. Corey Calkins, he's the one who manages our inbox there, and he said we're running low on really good ones. So please take that one minute video and email it to radio at themeateater.com with the subject line hot tip off. You're gonna compete for some really good prizes

if your video gets chosen. And this week it's that three year Onyx Elite membership and a Moultrie Edge 2 Cell Cam. And really quick, get some questions into the chat for the crew for our listener feedback section too. Just a reminder. All right, Chilly, if you were voting, you're gonna pick the recycled waiters or the fur trapping.

We're going to let the audience decide, but maybe we can sway their opinion. Brother, I would say where I'm at in my life, I would say the trapping hot tip, the sawdust like that is probably going to be more applicable to me right now. Okay, Seth? to me right now. Okay, Seth? I appreciate a frugal man, but I'm gonna go with the fur trapping as well. The hot, the solid-house hot tip.

He, Brian's from Pennsylvania. Yeah. He's flushing raccoons. All this is- Good facial hair. Good facial hair. All this is very familiar territory to me. I'm going with Brian. I'm gonna go with Adam Smith. I like the idea of recycling those waders and that looked like a pretty handy little thing to have on your chest. People would talk to you

about it if they saw you on the river I think too. Alright I'm gonna go ahead and wrap up this poll right now with 53% of the vote. Oh no, at the last second, 52 now. The winner is Brian with the sawdust. Well done, Brian. Corey Calkins is going to reach out to you about how to claim your prizes. For everyone else listening,

please send us some more hot tips. We wanna keep doing this segment. We wanna get educated and educate our audience with your hot tips All right. Let's take a break for some listener feedback. Phil. What's the chat have to say? That's a great question Well, first I just wanted to say congrats to mogor our guy mogor in the chat He just passed the toughest exam of his life and we're officially kicking off the weekend for him. Okay. Congrats Congratulations, he's in the chat every week. So we appreciate you stick around with us mogul and

Hanging out from Hungary. I'd like to know what that exam is. Maybe let us know in the chat Oh, yeah, please do because I think he mentioned it a couple weeks ago as well and I was curious So yeah, let us know mogul. It's kind of a big general question, but it's still that still that turkey season So if you guys have any hot tips speaking of for spicy nachos, he says, Hey, all first time turkey hunter here. I was wondering if I could get some late season turkey hunting tips. Uh, in Canada here are turkeys open 10 days ago and he has had no luck. I got one. Thank you. Go for it. Say you're hunting late season turkeys. You have to be in the woods from that 10 o'clock to two o'clock hour, if your state allows it.

Um, late season hens, once they're done doing their thing, getting bred in the morning, the, they will go sit on their nests and those Toms will become solo and looking for love. Um, it's a great time to kill late season Turkey. Yeah. And in Turkey hunters who were smarter than me, we'll talk about how you should change your decoy setup. low and looking for love. Um, it's a great time to kill late season turkey. Yeah. And in Turkey hunters who were smarter than me, we'll talk about how you should change your decoy setup throughout the season. Like what were you using this weekend, Seth in Montana here, we'd probably be

considered what like early season here, middle of the season or early season. What are you running for decoys? Um, I typically don't run decoys unless I have to. Um, I just, that's just because I just like, well, one thing I, I typically don't run decoys unless I have to, um, I just, that's just because I just like, well, one thing I, I don't love the way I hunt a lot of running and gunning, um, I just don't love carrying decoys and I don't know, I just like to, to play the game without decoys. I like to set up in spots where the turkey basically has to be in shooting range for

it to see where the calling is coming from. So that's how I like to hunt. I will use decoys occasionally if I'm set up like in a big open area or whatever. But I think like sort of it's very general rule of thumb, but usually your turkey decoys setups get smaller as the season goes on. So early season when birds are still really flocked up Yeah, you may have if you have the ability to do it for decoys out there Yeah And and if you're really getting late in the season spicy nachos might be time to pair that down to just a single hen or a

Hand in a strutter what else you got Phil Andreas is asking chili. what was your MOS when you were serving? Andreas, I was in 0651. Which is what? Com. Data Network Specialist. But yeah, I did a bunch of stuff with communications equipment and things of that nature man. All right on. Ben says Spencer, did you hear that Dakota Angler brought back the Rapala Minnow rap as an exclusive you had said in the last Radio Live you were in that you caught your personal best pike on it but they were discontinued. I had a few people reach out to me and email me that that Dakota Angler is bringing back the Rapala Minnow rap. Rapala has so many offerings and this was like a very specific one at a very

specific time and place. And I'm thrilled to hear that Dakota Angler has that sort of swing to get the minnow rap back on their shelves. That's a great part of the country to be offering that crankbait. So good on you Dakota Angler and thanks for the heads up Ben and everyone else who reached out. I caught PB pike on an x-rap. Oh, yeah Yeah, what kind of x-rap because I feel like there's a lot there's like x-rap this x-rap that yeah Sometimes they'll have it was like a little bucktail on the last little bucktail. It was the it was when the x-rap first came out Okay So yeah, whatever the OG x-rap was yeah

I bought a handful of them for catching bass in Maine when I was living back East. I feel like a lot of the X-Raps too, they would have like the hollow body look that you'd like see through. Yeah, this one you can see through is blue. Yep, had the bucktail on it, but yeah, that was caught my PB pike in Montana.

I miss being really tuned into like what crankbaits are hot right now and like what's the new color that Rapala came out with? Yeah here. I don't I Don't do a whole lot of crank bait fishing I'm more like jigging plastic type guy for walleye and yeah, don't do a whole lot of bass in here, but I love it It's fun. I just wish there was more opportunities, which there are there are some good ones but uh yeah I don't exactly keep up with the the those style of baits yeah used to be really tuned in it was it was totally 100% something that caught more fishermen than fish yeah but I still like being very familiar with the library of crankbaits that that different

brands were offering what else you got Phil? We'll do one more here. Well, actually, we'll do a light one and then a real one. What do the crew members use to maintain their facial hair? I hate an itchy beard, but don't enjoy the 12-year-old boy look with a bald face. As someone who's gone back and forth between mustache and beard in the last few years, the itchy stage to me is a very specific time.

I don't remember when that is, but it's like between weeks, I don't know, two and four or something like that, and then it's not itchy anymore. Is that what you, like your familiarity with it, Chilly? Yeah, when I had a big, big beard, yeah, like it was like that two to four weeks, maybe quarter of an inch long and it got super itchy

and then all of a sudden it just stopped. It's not itchy anymore, you never think about it. No. As far as maintenance, I don't do anything. It just gets the same shampoo that my hair gets. Tree sap, tree sap every morning, freshly found in the woods. Julie's a tail mane guy.

Yeah, the hair is mane and tail. Mane and tail. Mane and tail. Is it like a pomade or what no? It's it's a shampoo and conditioner made for horses Now you're messing with it. That's a hot tip Yeah, I do you have a horse shampoo and conditioner in your shower right now main and tail, okay? You send me a picture. I will send you a picture. I I'd like your hair a lot more chilly knowing who told you about this idea

No see Well originally it came from the movie blades of glory When he goes like you help yourself to the main tail all you want, but don't even think about touching the vertical So and then like it kind of took off and then for me I mean as you can tell proof is in the pudding right? Good head of lettuce on chili. Yeah uh-huh and it just yeah shimmers and that's why I like it. Mane and tail I like that. I do nothing for the stash and I like to wash the hair like maybe once a week. We can tell. We can tell.

Keep it greasy. That was the fun one, Phil. Let's hear what this dark twisted one is. Oh no, no, it's not, I just meant, I said real, not like, man, we're gonna get real. I just meant like, it's a real question. What is the fastest time you have filled a turkey tag? Do you pass up the bird that comes out first light

on the first day? So he lives in a single bird bag limit area. That's from Will. I got a story that could tie a handful of things together that we talked about. Please do it. Last Saturday, we, my wife and I killed some turkeys in the morning and then we went to a different spot and this was probably about 1130 ish and got to a ridge, made a call, turkey gobbled like 200, probably 250 ish away. And within, I don't know, a couple minutes that thing was dead. It just came running. That's efficient.

Yep. And it was that, it was that, you know, that mid or that late morning hour, which hens went to sit and he was lonely. Did it ever cross your mind to pass on that bird? So you can, well, my wife, my wife was shooting on that one. I was just calling and I guarantee it didn't pass her mind. Yeah. It's never crossed my mind. A legal Turkey. The quickest I ever killed was my first archery bird. It was, it was opening morning. Um, I was set up way too close to the roost what would be considered too close

But it worked out anyway bird came down right off the roost walked into my decoys and I shot him dead as far as Passing on a bird first light of the day Nah, no, thanks. Yeah, I don't pass on tur. Unless they're Jakes. I'm to the point where I don't see Jakes anymore. Alright moving on, our next segment is One Minute Fishing. Do I feel lucky? Well do you punk? Go ahead, make my cast. One Minute Fishing is where we go live to someone who's fishing and they have one minute to catch a fish and if they're successful we'll make a $500 donation to a conservation

group. And for the whole month of April our friends at Trout Unlimited are joining us for one minute fishing this week. Our angler is Jesse Vidala, the Eastern Region Manager at TU. Today he's on a tributary of the Housatonic River in Connecticut and fishing for a donation to Trout Unlimited. Jesse, welcome to the show. Hey guys, how you doing? I'm sorry to give you the most chaotic and worst audio possible, but I am quite literally next to a race track at the moment. Also a wild trout.

Okay, well someone's going to figure out very easily where Jesse is today. Jesse, we asked Trout Unlimited to highlight some important watersheds across the country for this segment. So first thing, tell us about the wild trout streams of New England and their greatest threats. Totally. So it does tie into where I'm standing right now. This is the Salmon Kill Creek, which is right across from the Limerock Speedway. It's a wild trout tributary that had stunted habitat and tough deals with erosion. So what we're doing largely at TU across the northeast

is for wild trout, specifically the brook trout, we're working on improving connectivity, removing culverts and barriers. We have a beautiful open bridge here that we're checking in on and that's where I'll be fishing right below. But yeah, we're doing a lot for connectivity and improving habitat for wild trout. So what are some other things that TU has done to help fisheries of the northeast? TU has been a grassroots organization that largely focuses on educating the next generation. And today I've got about 25 students out here that are planting trees in a riparian buffer. This is an annual program where kids get out and learn more. That's the bread and butter of TU is teaching the next generation about fly fishing and how important healthy

cold rivers are. So that's what we do. And it's evident in my work today, even though I'm quite literally catching the Porsche race, the team moving behind me. All right. Let's talk about the fishing. What are you targeting today and how are you doing it? Totally. So real quick, obviously, I have the Catskill dry fly anger, I'm always paying attention to the hatches. This time of year, we're starting to see Hendrickson's male and female. So I'm fishing in a merger that has both a dark Hendrickson and light Hendrickson kind of co-Thorax color, uh, super optimistic to try and catch fish on drys on a bluebird day

like today. So if it doesn't happen, I'm going to shoot some of the bigger holes below for the bigger brown trout. Usually fishing something like a small, wiggly, black marabou streamer. Something cool to get their attention when they're hanging out low. Okay, and when we talked to you before the show, you were very concerned about spooking trout.

Do you think that's gonna be an issue when you get to the water? Yeah, actually I think the colors might spook up more than me, but I'm walking over right now. We're going to see how this goes. Okay. The audio could even get worse, but I feel like if you don't want it, like flat fishing, you're getting it. Yeah. Uh, your one minute of fishing will start as soon as you make that first cast. Uh, he is walking through the lanes of the racetrack right now headed to the water. Cars zipping by.

We've now lost him. Well, I think. Still prevailing with me in this chaotic vision. Okay, Jesse, are you are you set up and ready to make your cast? Man, I'm walking into the stream side right now. Okay. Now the green on the trees in the background makes me think of morel mushrooms. Have the kids planting all those trees come across any mushroom patches yet?

Good question. We're still a few more, I would say a week, maybe two weeks at most. Pretty well closely aligned to turkey season. We see morels up this way. A lot of ramps still out and about on the streams. That's a big one. Yeah, we've been able to find some. So I think pretty soon we'll start seeing morels. I'm gonna set y'all up right where I had you before

and we'll hope for the best. Okay. Jesse is about to make his first cast. The timer will start when he makes that first cast. The video and audio are getting a little choppy on. He's got to fly in the water. There it is. Seth, would you be on that racetrack? There are actually light Hendrix is near the water. And some small stones.

OK, you've got 45 seconds left. There's a good rock wedge over here on the fore end. Uh, I'm probably more likely to be on the river than the racetrack. Jesse is feeling confident. He's saying that his fly is matching what he's seeing in the water. Oh, we're throwing one more.

30 seconds to go. Oh yeah, that's that much. Let's get to eat. We're going in. There's a natural right next to it. No eat. It's not looking good folks. You got 15 seconds Jesse. I do like that he's providing his own commentary. We're putting another clean one upstream. Okay you got 10 seconds. One more. Let's do it. All the way in. All right.

Didn't happen today for Jesse. Sam, thank you all for the chance. It's important that we do it to you. Appreciate it. Yeah, yeah. Thanks for joining us, Jesse. Good luck with the rest of the day fishing. Thanks, man. Thanks so much. Thank you. Take care. rest of the day fishing. Thanks, man. Thanks so much. Thank you. Take care. One minute fishing always brings some chaos to the show,

but we like it. All right, here's some more chaos. Our next segment is The Price is Right. Uh-oh. Here it comes from Bozeman, Montana, Media to radio's most exciting 10 minutes. It's The Price is Right! Yeah!

Woo! Woo! Seth Morris, come on down! Oh, yeah, Seth Morris. Mr. Chilliam, come on down! You're the next two contestants on Meat Eater Radio's The Price is Right! Now here's your host, Spencer Neuha! Thank you, Phil.

Now this game is really simple. Phil is going to tell you about a product from the Meat Eater universe and you need to guess its price. The player with the closest answer without going over will be declared the winner. If both players go over then you'll both be told to try again. And the chat should play along as well because whoever has the closest answer will get a shout out from Phil. Alright there are three products on today's show.

Phil, tell us about the first item up for bid. You searched for your informant who disappeared without a trace. You knew there were witnesses but lips were sealed. You swept the city, driving closer to the truth. While curled up on the couch with your cat. There's more to imagine when you listen. Discover heart-pounding thrillers on Audible. Clicking a lot of buttons here, Spencer. Just give me one sec.

I gotta turn off this banner. It's kind of in the way. I just want everyone to know that what Phil just did was live. It wasn't like a drop. He brings all the energy. Well let's start today's bidding with a three-piece walleye dinner from Culver's. For one month every year during Lent, Culver's adds a deep-fried walleye to their menu. Each filet, which comes from crystal clear Canadian waters,

is hand-battered and cooked to order. Their Northwoods Walleye Three-Piece Dinner comes with tartar sauce, a warm roll, a soda, and two sides. You'll get to choose from a garden salad, crinkle-cut fries, coleslaw, cheese curds, chili, or pretzel bites. And don't forget to save room for custard after eating those one and a half walleyes. The flavor of the day today is chocolate caramel twist at the Onalaska, Wisconsin location,

which is where I sourced the price for this dinner. It's a three piece walleye dinner from Culver's. Two sides, a soda, a warm roll, and tartar sauce. And then we're some big ol' fillet. Seth, how do you think, how big do you think them walleyes were? 25 inches. Yeah, 20 plus for sure. These are some healthy walleye. I wonder where they're getting those. Great Lakes? Probably. Canada. Canada? Mm-hmm. That's what their website says. Now when they say Canada, I don't know if there's like aquaculture in Canada or if they're going out and netting some some faraway river or what the deal is. But it's it's very well reviewed walleye from Culver's three-piece dinner and again you boys

cannot go over. If you go over you will get it wrong Look at that sandwich Chillie you know every time I'm heading east on on the interstate and I pass through Rapid City, that's the first time I can smell Culver's again. That's about as far west as they get Yeah, I would say man Well leave it yeah you boys literally have the same answer what if we get the right answer dude well we can't we gotta have a winner or loser we can't tie okay Seth is seeing Chili's answer and now he's in just two chili you miss the Culver's back home in Rapid City I do yeah yeah like I feel

like yeah you're right they're outside of rapid west of rapid you don't find them now and if there are someone let us know but you can start to smell Casey's when you get that far east Exactly exactly. Yeah. No, I do miss I do miss a Culver's burger. All right, you boys ready? Yeah, and this price is from on Alaska, Wisconsin. Go ahead and reveal your answers We have said saying thirteen13 and Chili says $12.99. I want everyone to know if Chili wins this. I had that first. Well, maybe you shouldn't be so I don't know. I'm not going to say that. That's bad.

Just stick to your answer. Stick to your answer. So you had $12.99 as well. OK, both of you come up with a new answer then. You saw Chili's answer. We're going to have you come up with a new answer. You are both lower than the correct answer So come up with a new one We they both wrote down 1299 Seth then change his answer, but we're gonna make them try one more time. We know the price is higher than

1299 chili you have your answer. I do you your answer okay go ahead and reveal your answers we have chili saying 1499 and Seth saying 1450 the correct answer is $20 and 79 cents giving chili that very first point Suck it Seth then them walleye and cheap on set I guess not Who do did well in the chat Phil anybody get around the right answer Yeah, I I haven't looked for the last 30 seconds. We had Derek saying 1999 that was the call and his last name is Xander Xander is a European walleye

That is fantastic. Well done Derek Xander. There's some of those in South Dakota North Dakota Cottonwood Lake I think it is. Yeah, there you go. Alright, Phil, tell us about the second item up for bid. Well, if you prefer selling fish to buying fish, then how about owning your very own bait shop? Lacy Marine Bait and Tackle is located at the Jersey Shore. This turnkey business comes with all of their inventory, four bait freezers, a live bait tank, and a state-of-the-art POS system. Lacy's has been open since 1969 and is a fixture of the community.

I forgot that I can't change the slide without getting the script out of my eyeballs. And now it is gone. Where was I? But there are some things money can't buy, like the Lacy Township Police Department Citizen Recognition Award that the business received in 2023. Lacy Marine Bait and Tackle got the honor after its owners saved the life of a customer who collapsed while shopping for bait. Amazing and Lacey's claims to have an annual revenue of $920,000 and has been listed for sale

since November 2023. Seth and Chilly, what does that bait store cost? And Phil is showing us some pictures of Lacey. That is Lacey Marine Bait and Tackle, located at the Jersey Shore. We're looking at some blood worms there. That appears to be one of their hot ticket items based on Facebook. Seth, you wanna look at my answer? Nope.

You boys have an answer? Yeah. I would love to own a bait shop someday. That would be fun. I think it'd be so fun. Especially if you had a bar in there too. Where would you put that bait shop at? Oh, probably like upper Midwest.

Yeah. That type of culture. I feel like this is more like ocean culture. Yeah, this is very marine heavy in their area. They've got like a whole section of yacht paint in this bait store. Yep. Yeah, I'd be wanting to like, you know, have some cheese curds or something in there and, you know, smell like bait. Have Chester come walking in. Calbers. That's good. You boys ready? Yep. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We've got Chili saying 1.3 million and Seth saying 1.4 million

You cheat you're both too high. So you really need to try again. Wow, what's Too high Huh has an annual revenue of? 920,000 on that's revenue not profits. not profit. So that's their top line number, not their bottom line number. You guys have an answer? This isn't trivia, I could probably just look this up. I suspect some of our audience is doing that.

You guys ready? Yeah. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We've got chili saying 865 and Seth saying 930,000 they're still too high. Oh, they're gonna need to try again We have yet to have this happen because this place has been on the market for hell right since November 20-20 Wow, you gotta say everyone in the chat is right there with you guys

Okay, too high too high Wow I gotta say everyone in the chat is right there with you guys. Okay. Too high. Too high. Wow, this bait store may have a lot of suitors after this episode. If you folks are willing to throw around 1.4 million, it could very easily be yours.

It's not too high. Okay, you guys ready again? So wait, even if he's like lower, but if I'm over by 25K, but he's under by 300K, he wins. Being under is important. You're automatically disqualified if you're over. Are you ready? Nope. Nope. Nope. Okay, Seth is going back to his room.

So is Chilly. We're gonna go... You're going, whoa, are you gonna do dirtbag? Okay, we figured out the game, dude. Are you ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers we've got chili saying four hundred sixty thousand and Seth saying

four hundred seventy five thousand they're still too high going back to their whiteboards for a fourth attempt we got ourselves a game folks you went to something then't you? We've started at 1.4 million we're all the way down to under 460,000 at this point Seth and chili are on their fourth attempt of guessing the price of Lacey Marine You gotta change it? You gonna change it? No I'm sticking, I'm just sticking. Are you ready? Just went along. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We've got

No, I'm just sticking. Are you ready? Just go ahead and reveal your answers. We've got Seth that says $56. No, that's oh, that's five bucks. Five bucks. He says five dollars. Chili says 244,000 the correct answer is 279,000 giving chili the second point and Five bucks victory that's not bad for a tackle shop. Hey, it could it could be yours Like I said a lot of folks in chat may be outbidding you though Well, here's the guy really quick a bunch of people started getting closer after like the third you're too high Yeah, but pit pass podcast guess 210 right off the bat Pit pass you get that point.

Bill lets her hear about our third item up for bid. We'll see if if chili can get the skunk on Seth and make him run around the office naked as his tradition. Nobody wants that. If you're looking to fill that bait shop with decor then how about an autographed Jaws poster? This movie poster has a certificate of authenticity that bait shop with decor, then how about an autographed Jaws poster? This movie poster has a certificate of authenticity, meaning it's the real deal. It measures 26 inches by 38 inches and is signed by four members of the cast plus Steven Spielberg. Actually, I will tell you that John Williams is not a member of the cast, but a composer

of the soundtrack. The Oscar-winning film turns 50 years old this year, giving you a chance to own a piece of piece of cinema history The eBay seller also offers a jockeys costume from Seabiscuit and 23 Disney DVDs Alright Seth and Chilly. What does that signed jaws poster cost? Who's the composer Phil John Williams John Williams? And I think that's how they won their Oscar was via their music It was not best picture or best lead actor anything like that Best music you said that this fella has this on eBay on eBay, okay? So he's not trying to like sell this out, okay?

And he's also selling jockeys costume from Seabiscuit and 23 Disney Have you any thoughts? You ready ready go ahead and reveal your answers. We've got chili saying $11,000 and Seth goes with $1 That's bushelet Never watch the show yeah, right. Yeah, but one dollar wins a lot. Yeah, but the correct answer is $190 giving Seth his third point and he's quite satisfied

Sorry his first point chili is the Today's game good job is right don't talk to me. How'd the chat do Dylan Jenkins saying? 175 I believe that was the closest without going over. Oh, nope, nope, Nick said 189, which is kind of suspiciously close. I feel like I've heard that name during the Price is Right before Nick. I think Nick is about to buy himself a new poster.

All right, that ends today's game of Price is Right. Thanks for playing along, everybody. And remember, to help control the pet population, have your pets spayed and neutered Alright, our next segment is tattoos. I regret Hello darkness my old friend I've looked at my tattoo again It really seemed like such a good idea

When I was drunk last summer in Ibiza The tattoo says a puss in the pot will always find more beans What the f**k does that mean? It's a tattoo I regret. Now I'm so thrilled about today's tattoo that for only the second time ever we have the person with the regrettable tattoo joining us live. Here she is now Amanda Fairbairn Kimmery. Welcome to the show. Thanks. Thanks for having me guys Amanda let's get some backstory before we reveal your tattoo first thing. When did you get this? I Got it

Almost probably like a decade ago when I was a junior in college at Clemson Okay, and what was going on that day when you got that tattoo? my friend and I were having ourselves a good Saturday and at the time Clemson was winning the national championship. Everyone was getting, you know, go Tigers, go Tigs. Clemson tattooed on the inside of their lip. It was like a new trend, I guess, I'm gonna dog dog. And my friend and I were sitting there and I'm like, what is just the most outrageous and ridiculous tattoo you can think of? Okay, that's how you landed on this idea.

Have you ever met another person with this tattoo? No, I haven't. I've met the hundreds of people with lip tattoos, and when the video of me went viral, I was reading the comments, and everyone was commenting what their lip tattoo that they had was, and I was reading the comments and everyone was commenting like what their lip tattoo that they had was and I was really expecting someone else to have something similar but no, not a soul yet. Is this your only tattoo? So no, I actually have four other tattoos and they're

actually all related to the outdoors in some way as well. Ah, all right. Well, let's uh, let's reveal your tattoo and then explain its meaning for us Okay, so It's 1804 to 1806 Yes, 1804 to 1806 and it is the dates of the Lewis and Clark expedition Okay, love that why why the Lewis and Clark expedition dates? I Mean when sitting out, you know on a nice Saturday with my friend, we were thinking, what is the most outrageous thing? What else could you possibly think of other than something having to do with history

way back when that kind of people forget after grade school too, you know? So what ideas did you pass on before landing on 1804 to 1806 on the inside of your bottom lip? So we passed on my mom's phone number. I think she's probably very grateful that I did not have that. And then we also passed on, I think it was Bill Gates' birthday.

Oh, okay. Yeah. Like I said, we were thinking about outrageous and random things. And my friend got the dates of the Mayan calendar when it was expected to end. She got those dates tattooed on the end. Okay, very good. Now, what do your friends and family think of the tattoo?

When I first got it, they just thought it was stupid. And they figured, oh, it'll fade in one to three years Whatever. Well, here we are almost a decade later and they still think it's just as outrageous But it's brought a lot of joy and laughter. So everyone just thinks it's funny now Do your other friends with lip tattoos have their lip tattoos faded because I've always heard it said that that's a thing that they fade But then that hasn't seemed to be a reality Yeah, so like that's why everyone started getting them like a decade ago is because everyone was like, oh, who cares?

Like it fades in one to three years. But yeah, no hers actually, my friend that I got it with, hers is pretty faded. I think there's still a little bit left of it, but hers is pretty faded. Mine's going strong though. Do you actually regret the tattoo though? I'm gonna say no.

If you would have told me when I got it that it would last probably my entire life, I probably wouldn't have gotten it then. But looking back now, it's just brought everyone so much joy and laughter. And it's actually the reason my husband and I are together. Oh, how did that come to be? So when we met,

we met at a mutual friend's house for a party and At that said party, you know, he was there with his boys and he was like, I'm not gonna talk to any girls tonight I'm just gonna hang out with the guys that he told me this later in our relationship But then later on he also admitted that the minute he found out I had that lip tattoo He's like, oh, I'll talk to her. She seems like a pretty cool girl. Wow. And now they're married.

That's great. Well, traditionally during this segment, we shame people for having bad tattoos, but we're not going to do that. I think it's so damn cool. And I'm jealous. I didn't think of it first. Why didn't I come up with putting the date to the Lewis and Clark expedition on the inside of my lip?

Yeah, that's like something you would totally do. I know. But now we're talking to Amanda instead, who, who did have that great idea on a drunk Saturday. Hopefully one day someone else will have a same lip tattoo. That's right. All right, Amanda, thank you for joining us and thanks for sharing your tattoo that you absolutely should not regret. Thanks for having me guys. Appreciate it. Chilly, do you regret regret any of your tattoos? Not a one. How many do you have any of your tattoos? Not a one.

How many do you have? Oh, I don't even know. 30? No, not that many. Almost 20 maybe. You don't regret any of them? No. I think the only regret I have is I didn't do some bigger.

I don't have regrets about like, oh, shouldn't have done that. I have Dead Man's Hand here right above my watch. I wish I would have done that bigger. Yeah, that would have, yeah. I like that tattoo a lot. I wish you would have done that bigger. Yeah, that would have yeah I like that tattoo a lot. I wish you would have done it. Thank you, Chilly No, your tattoos are really like a lot of thought went into my oh, I appreciate it Well, I did a thing that most people with tattoos don't do is like I didn't start getting them till I was almost 30 years old

Yeah, you know your tattoo era is when you're in college or something. I was just too broke to afford them then. Yep So now I had a wiser version of me coming up with bad tattoo ideas. I like them. Thank you, Seth. All right, that brings us to the end of the show. Phil, what's the chat have to say? Yeah, we got a few more in here.

First, I just wanted to shout out Mogor, who got back to us. He says he officially passed the Hungarian State Hunting Exam. Oh, nice. Says, inspired by meat eater. So, good job, Mogor. Well done State Hunting Exam. Oh, nice. He says, inspired by meat eater. So good job, Mogor. Congrats.

Well done, Mogor. Congrats on that. Devin asks, well, first of all, last chance to get questions in, do that right now. Devin asks, any good recommendations or favorites for solo camping tents for hunting trips? Looking forward to doing my first deer hunt later this year. What do you think, Seth? I have a, it's a Nemo. I don't remember what model, but it's just like a one person real light.

It's a three season. So keep that in mind if you're going to be in some cold, snowy weather, but, um, I enjoy that thing. It's super light. I fit in it great. And yeah, Julie I'm I'm a fan of the seek outside Cimarron, it's a four-man tent

Probably get two fully grown men in there. But the cool thing about that one is too it has a You can if you purchase a stove you can run a stove out of it, too So if you are late season hunting you can you can have you purchase a stove you can run a stove out of it too so if you are late-season hunting you can you can have some warmth with you obviously you have to do some more logistics when it comes to where you're going packing in wood and all that stuff but I end up things great in the summer as well so pretty lightweight and it's a very very low profile as far as packing so that's why I like it. Stoves are nice. Devin I tent it for most of my deer hunts

And usually I'm solo I run a three-person tent I find that's the right size for me to be like very comfortable in there I'm talking about car camping specifically where I can fit a cot. I can fit a little heater I can like hang up my socks and clothes to dry real nice Seth had brought up having a three season tent if you're're hunting in the fall, which sounds like you are on this deer hunt, I think it's very important to have a four seasons tent. And those ratings are sort of done different by each company. I don't think there's any like legal obligation to call it a three season tent

or a four season tent if it fits this certain criteria. But I think Devin, if it's important to you to stay warm at night and you're hunting anytime, from mid October on in the North, look for a four season tent and if you know you're gonna be by yourself, a three person tent will keep you really comfortable. I run an Elps Tasmanian tent. I've had that for five years.

I really love it, I'm very cozy in there. Yeah, and I was thinking more backcountry stuff, but if you are car cam and go with a bigger tent, it's just nicer to have the extra room. Phil, what else you got? The only reason I'm going to put this guy's name on the screen is cause he specifically told me how to pronounce his last name. But this is kind of an ethical Chedekit-esque moral conundrum here. But here we go. Brad asks, while being a father of three with food prices as high as they are,

is it okay to accept game meat that was probably poached? And why do you pronounce his last name, Phil? Witucky. In case anyone wants to look for him. Yeah, take that game meat, Brad. You're fine. It's not gonna taste any different, I don't think would you boys have any if you needed to? Feed a family of three

Would you take some poached meat? We don't know So yeah, I take it. Yeah Yeah, take that meat Brad and then and then when you're feeding it to folks you can talk about conservation It gives you a good little Nugget of information to share with other people plausible Deniability there you go. No, nobody knows. Let's see here favorite way to cook turkey breast That isn't schnitzel or nuggets, which he already loves to make this is from Keith Seth What are you doing with all that turkey meat? Well schnitzel and nuggets are my go-to

My wife and I did a stir-fry the other night which was fantastic. I just kind of sliced it up in like thin strips and did that. It was great. Served it over rice. Keith, go to TheMeatEater.com on our recipe section. You can search, you can put the criteria in there for only turkey meat. You'll get all kinds of great recipes from people who are far better cooks than us. And there'll be a lot of inspiration there that's not schnitzel or nuggets. Seth, this is from Will. Seth, I've watched you and Steve's trapping,

skinning and fleshing videos. Will y'all ever do a tanning follow-up or do you have any tips right now? He said he recently started and his coons always come out greasy and stiff. We, I don't do any tanning. I send everything off to the tannery to get tan professionally. I just, I never got into the tanning thing.

Um, did you ever mess around with like quick tan? Isn't that something that, uh, no, I, when I was younger, I used to like kill squirrels and just salt the heck at like stretch them and salt the heck out Of them and where them squirrels that now? Oh? They're probably rotted away some honestly, I have no I might have one or two left back in my mom's house in Pennsylvania, but Yeah, that wasn't a forever type. Okay treatment, but uh Yeah, I've honestly never tanned anything like legit tan something so

Can't really help you there Else you got Phil any experience putting electronics on a pontoon. That's from Brian Not on a pontoon, but a lot of electronics with other boats What do you need to know What do you need to know? How many birds loran's I'd go with the bird but I Can't it just depends hummingbird is better mapping and I bet on a pontoon It's a little more simple like, you know plumbing your electronics through the bottom than it would be with a Traditional v-haul boat. Yeah, but I don't know Brian

We can go have you seen a lot of electronics on pontoons like that yeah I know Max Barters father-in-law Wally Dan he he guides out of a pontoon oh yeah he probably has lots of experience with rigging pontoon boats but as far as I'm concerned I think a pontoon boats a great fishing vessel. Gives you a lot of surface space to walk around in there. Yeah for sure. And I imagine if you're if you're rigging up a pontoon with expensive electronics that you're trying to be a good family man Brian you're trying to

have one foot in both worlds of good fishing and taking the kids out on the river or the lake on a Saturday. It's good on you Brian. We'll do one one more here, but first Brian, who won the hot tip off, said he got busy at work and missed it live, but he just popped in and says thanks so much. So yeah, Brian be on the lookout for something from Cory here if he hasn't already messaged you already. Well done. Oh yeah, that's a pro producer right there. Good tip, Brian. Last one from Ben, Spencer, have you ever tried paddle fishing by Yankton? He said he's from the area and wants to get his first spoonie. I have done it, Ben.

It was like some of my favorite outdoor memories as a kid. The fishing is, even in the bad years, it's very good by Yankton. That's where a dam is on the Missouri River. It's the last dam on the Missouri River. And a lot of fish get stacked up there. It's a lot of fun. It's not a thing where you have to be up super early or stay out till the last minute of daylight. There's really, really good camaraderie with it, Ben. And I assume if you're a resident you get access to better water than everyone else. And so enjoy that, Ben. Keep buying

those preference points know what the slot is and how to measure it folks are very willing to give tips on on how to do it how to rig your weights and your your treble hooks so don't be afraid to ask someone if you need some help but enjoy it it's I miss it a lot all right that brings us to the end of the show thanks everyone for watching and listening we'll see you guys back here in one week. ["Spring Day in the City"] Hey, Spencer Neuhearth here to tell you

about an exciting new project. I am thrilled to introduce Mediator Wordle. It's a word game where you- Wait, wait, wait, you can't call it that. Why? an exciting new project. I am thrilled to introduce Meat Eater Wordle. It's a word game where you- Wait, wait, wait. You can't call it that. Why? Well, because of copyright stuff. That name is probably property of the New York Times or something.

Oh, well, what should we call it? I don't know. What is it exactly? Well, it's a lot like Wordle. Players get six tries to solve a five-letter word from categories like hunting, fishing, animals, nature. Then you get to compare your score to the scores from the meat eater crew. And new games will drop every Monday morning on our website. I think the perfect name would kind of sound like wordle, you know, have two syllables and end with L E. Oh, and it has to be an outdoorsy word. Hmm. Introducing meat eater turtle.

It's like wordle, but better. You can play it right now at themeedeater.com slash games.