The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 756: Sounding Off and Feral Hogs | MeatEater Radio Live!

Episode Date: August 29, 2025

Hosts Janis Putelis, Randall Williams, and Brody Henderson recap Janis and Brody's trip to the fish shack, chat about Randall and Steve's latest audiobook project, The Buffalo Hunters, talk with Rich Froning about his new podcast, In Pursuit, go over their top 3 sounds to hear in the woods, and dive deep with guest Parker Hall on feral hogs in Florida. Brought to you in part by MTN Ops. Watch the live stream on the MeatEater Podcast Network YouTube channel. Subscribe to The MeatEater Podcast Network MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTubeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to Me-Eater Radio Live. It's 11 a.m. Mountain Time. Phil's giggling again because I missed the exact timing of this intro, but oh well, we'll keep on going. 11 a.m. Mountain time. That's 8 p.m. for our friends in Latvia. What up, Linda? Casparse. Caspars, everybody else. It's Thursday, August 28th, and we're live from Meat Eater headquarters in a fall-like Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host, Janice Patelis, joined today by Randall, Big Randy Williams, and Brodie of Carrie in the Henderson's Henderson.

That was a tongue twister. Like I said, it feels a lot like fall. has me fired up. The Aspins are showing a sprinkling of yellow leaves. The high today is only 65 degrees. I heard a bugle last night. Montana's archery season opens in nine days. And my broadheads are flying true. Oh my. Today on the show, we'll hear about my and Brody's recent trip to Alaska, an audio project called hide hunters, our favorite sounds from the outdoors, and a new trail camera photo contest. Rich Froning is phoning in to tell us about the hardest moment

in CrossFit competition. And finally, we'll chat with Meat Eater guest star Parker Hall about trapping feral pigs in Florida to save sea turtles. Boys, does it feel like fall to you, too?

It does, but you know, you know summer's coming back. I know I checked the weather today after we, because this rain was unexpected to me at least i had not been checking the weather and then yesterday and today it's all like cool oh yeah great weather for running and i've been enjoying that i haven't done any running i'm just hoping that this puts an end to fire season yeah i didn't check that this morning either do you know if any of the fires were extinguished from yesterday's rain no idea no idea but thinking hopeful thoughts

but are you guys jack too it's not quite september but we're almost there do you oh yeah man's like it's here it's on monday is grouse opener will be out there and that's like the official start I'm not quite there yet I'm not quite there yet

you're not feeling it well I'm excited but I don't feel like it's at the doorstep quite yet got a little travel up ahead of us and his broadheads aren't flying true like yours well my broadheads are still

hanging on the rack at a store somewhere because I'm just waiting to burn some powder I know see that's the thing If you weren't really get fired up at the end of August, you kind of got to be an upland hunter like Brody or an archery hunter. Now, you mentioned we're doing some traveling. We might as well get this out of the way. Randall and I are going to be in Columbus, Ohio, on Saturday.

Do you have the exact location handy? I do not. Well, while Randall's looking that up, we're doing the tailgate tour again, and Randall and I are going to be there for the Ohio State and Texas game on Saturday. hanging out so if you're in the area go to the website

I'm sure you can get all the deeds there on where to find us Randall might have it pulled up here We will be at the Dublin Market at Bridge Park Okay Dublin Market at Bridge Park It's going to be early because the game starts at 11

We're going to start at noon I'm sorry we're going to start at 9 a.m. 9 a.m. Kickoffs at noon So you've probably roughly got two hours to come and see us 9 to 11 Saturday morning come and hang out, tell me a hunting story,

take a picture, whatever you want to do. We'd love to see you. Does it say where I'm going to be where ours is on the 27-3? TBD on your location. We'll have to come back to that later. We'll revisit that. Brody, we got back.

What has it been now? Has it been a week or two? Two. Two, all right. And time flies. We were at Fish Shack, Ronella's Fish Shack, on Prince of Wales Island.

Randall, you've been there for a bear hunt. I have. Rodi, you've been there a whole bunch with your family. This is the first time I took my family there. My biggest worry going into this one was, like, how my kids, my girls were going to deal with... Steve? A little bit, but they've been around him enough. They've kind of grown up with him that they kind of know what to expect.

And they get my... I coach them on how to deal with that, too, you know? And so that's not too. big of a deal because they've been around him. But no, the southeast Alaska's sort of constant rain, the constant 55 degree temperature that's really not warm, not cold. But, you know, it's like if you're wet in that, those temps, it can be uncomfortable. It's a long day. You're always wet even when it's not raining. Totally. The living conditions up there, it's not unsanitary or anything, but it's very sparse. You know, it's a, it is a shack.

When I was up there, I couldn't get all of the mink shit off my bed that I was sleeping in. We got most of the mink shit, but I couldn't get all of it. Yeah, because you were probably the first one there for the season, so you had to deal with all that. Luckily, we were there after all that had been taken care of. Yeah, each consecutive group just scrapes off a little more mink shit. And by the time you're the last group like us, no more mink shit. Yep. But last group, man, I would rather be the first group.

I've only done that like once, maybe twice. You would rather be a middle group. Oh, you're right. Yeah. The reason we're saying that, like, middle, like, there's actually four owners of the fish shack, and so there's a period of probably a span of maybe close to two months, roughly, six weeks. Yeah. And the first group comes, you got to do the job of opening the place up.

Which isn't bad. But then there's, like, group two, three, and four who, like, get to just roll in, do their thing and leave. Now, there's work to be done for every group, but the opening and then the shutting the place down. It's like, it takes a day. It took us a day to shut the place down on our way out. Because you're pulling motors off boats and getting the water lines all cleared out. Yeah. But to finish my original thought here is I was worried about my girls and how they were going to do there.

My wife, I know she's going to be fine. No big deal. They, like, excelled, exceeded expectations. Not only did they never once, like, even kind of talk about the weather. Like, I don't think they talked about the rain. The adults are bitching about the rain, but the kids, like, don't bring it up. They're just like, whatever, man.

We put our slickers on and we're going. And that was my big thing, too. Or not put them on and just run around wet. Yeah, and they're, bro, my girls, I'm like, you girls are going to learn a lesson. Brody's like, I told you. Brody gets after his kids when they're making mistakes, like running around without raincoats.

But anyways, the kids excelled. They didn't give a shit about the rain. And that water is roughly what? In the 50s. 50s. Those kids swam every single day of our trip. The water would come in, the tide would get high, and they would be in the

cove, just splashing around, like they were at the beach of North Carolina. Couldn't care about an attempt. I mean, Matt Rinella, Mattie, he runs around in shorts and crocks, like, no rain gear. That kid's impervious to the weather. It's like, it doesn't affect him.

My oldest received this prestigious Cock of the Cove award from Stephen Rinella. Um, to put this in perspective, uh, we actually have to plan when we're going to eat dinner the rest of us without Steve knowing. Because if you eat dinner, we were eating dinner kind of late, I felt like a couple nights. And I was like, man, let's eat a little bit earlier. And, yeah, that chef Andy Radgillowski's like, yeah, sure, we can eat it earlier.

But, and I didn't really get the butt. I guess I wasn't listening. What happens? The next night we eat earlier, we're done at like seven. There's like 90 minutes, maybe two hours of kind of some light left. Well, everybody else wants to like play banana grams and have another beer. Stephen Ronella is like looking out the window and he's like, oh, we got plenty of time to dig a hole. We're going to carry some rocks.

We're going to chain one of the big rocks in the hole. Then we're going to cover up the hole and to chain it to my new floating dock. And everybody's kind of looking around. He's like, who's with me? No one raises a hand. So that's the problem with eating too early. So after that, we were really precise that when we finished eating, there would not be quite enough time to get another chore done.

It could just be a little bit of relaxation and time for bed. Yeah, that was like, we had never done the eating early before. You never tried it. No, it's always like you eat and go to bed, which like you got to, you get, you know, it's a long day, but it doesn't leave any time for, you just eat, go to bed. Okay, I've said this to let you all know that when you're at Ronella's Fish Shack, and I'd like to know if you had this similar experience, but there's work to be done. There's like shack improvement projects that are ongoing.

There's just general upkeep of engines and like, you name it. And then there's the daily stuff just to keep yourself alive, cooking and eating and cleaning up after yourself and all that stuff. Well, the cock of the cove gets the award when like you're always Johnny on the spot. You're raising your hand when at like 6 p.m., no one else wants to go pull shrimp pots. Steve's like, we're going to pull shrimp pots. Who wants to go?

You raise your hand. Or dinner's over. Everybody else is chilling, rubbing their bellies, adjusting their belts. There's a lot of dirty dishes. You get up and start doing the dishes, right? That sort of stuff. Oh, you've got to make another run back from the boats to get more bait. I'll go run back to get more bait, right?

Well, my daughter, very proud of her. She chipped in and was crushed. and Steve awarded her Cock of the Cove. It was well deserved. Does that entitle her to any sort of liberties the next time around or diminished responsibility? No, your slate is cleared after the honorary. Yeah, gotcha. Yeah, pat yourself on the back and move on.

Yep. Yeah, my kid Hayden was awarded Chief Filet Officer. Oh, that's a prestigious honor. Yeah, he was after it this year. Yeah. Rana, when you were there, did you feel like you worked your ass off? not really um we didn't do a ton of projects because we were filming and so the focus was on like getting stuff done uh that's interesting because usually even when i've been up there

in the past filming steve will be like okay we did eight hours of film and now let's do four hours of manual labor yeah we well we were like we were a little under the gun until i killed my bear and then it was like because we had we had two bear tags to fill And so the first two, you know, we flew in, couldn't hunt. And we had a day where we didn't, uh, Steve and I chased a couple, didn't get an opportunity. Then we had a day where it just rained all night and all day and bears didn't come out.

Steve and I sat in the rain. So at that point, there was a little bit of anxiety. Mm, I see. But when I was up there, I, I just sort of decided that I was going to fill the generator. That was going to be your duty. Which brought me back to my days working in a lifetime. just filling fuel cans and pouring them in things and that was I felt like that was a solid contribution oh you got to keep the Jenny running nothing worse when yeah we had generator

problems this year oh my gosh we had all kinds of mechanical problems um anything else do you want to mention about our great trip no I mean Seth and I kind of talked fishing up there last was it last week mm-hmm so you covered off on this a little bit already not on You covered off on how Seth kept taking out Rinella's kids, and the Ronell's kids would catch giant halibet. Well, yeah, I let people know if you want to get a big halibet, you'd get incest boat. That's right.

Yeah. It's pretty funny. Did you let people know that Steve missed the gaff shot? Or not the gaff shot, the harpoon shot on your wife's big fish? I can't remember if we talked about that. I think we may have. And he didn't miss it. The halibut dodged the harpoon.

Yeah, according to Rinella, I don't think he's come forward with his. story yet. He should discuss it on a future mediator podcast episode, but I once was just ridden to hell. I was there. Why am I missing that word? A harpoon throw. I had never done it. I didn't realize. I thought it was kind of like a ha-ya, you know, you just like throw it. No, you got to drive it in there and you got to let him eat, you know. I got to harpoon the big one that Steve, caught and it was one of my favorite things that are done in my life because i'm a big moby dick guy and i also when i was guiding up there like netting a big king is like a pretty

intense situation you know like yeah because the one end of the fish is going to be hanging out of the net and if it's the if it's not the ass end that thing's going to swim away so like brought me back again to the pressure of getting that fish in the boat but a harpoon oh just something very romantic about it yeah carry had i got one of One good shot, and I got it. And you nailed it. But the film crew was beach combing at the time, so it didn't make it into the episode. My crowning achievement, yeah.

Oh, man. But they found something cool on the beach, I think. I don't remember what they was. You know what they say, Randall, if it didn't happen on camera, it didn't happen. I know. Yeah, Carrie's fish somehow got wrapped up in the anchor line. Well, I mean, there's like... They kind of got that freed up.

But she wasn't even in the boat with Steve. No. Everything was cool. Oh, it was? Everything was cool. The halbit was coming up and wha! Here comes Steve jumps in their boat and that's when chaos ensued. You're kidding.

He is always the common denominator. That's great. Why did he feel like he needed to jump in the boat? Because he really wanted carry to get that thing. It wasn't like, you're doing it. I don't think it was like, oh, you guys are doing something wrong. He wanted her to get it. Sure.

sure and you wanted it too much and it'll help if i'm in the boat with you yeah look man like it's fun to like point the finger but shit goes wrong with those big ones all that time yeah no we lost more big ones uh that week than we then we landed 100 100% um especially when you got like kids like that are around 10 years old plus or minus whatever a couple three years and like you're kind of helping hold rod, real rod, and you're like, I can feel the, you know, levity of the situation on that rod. And that's the last fish you want to lose.

Yeah, and you're just like, Maddie, do the best you can, buddy. Speaking of hides, bear hides, you got one when you were up there, but you have a project about some hides you're working on. Yes, yes, the next edition of Meat Eaters American History is available for pre-order right now, wherever you get your audiobooks. This is Volume 3, Meteor's American History, The Hyde Hunters, 1865 to 1883,

where we dive into the industrial scale slaughter of the American Buffalo, as Steve likes to say, in the period following the Civil War. It will be released officially on October 14th. So if you pre-order it now, it'll just be on your phone on October 14th, and you can give it a listen on your drive to hunting camp. Can you give me a little snippet of, like, one of your favorite stories from this project?

Oh, boy, favorite stories. Well, maybe a factoid that you found interesting. So one of the more interesting things is there were several stories about skunks. One was a guy named Skunk Johnson, and these guys would build what they called dugout shelters. so they dig into the side of a stream bank and he was famous for having a really big elaborate one and at one point he was surrounded by a group of

I believe Comanches and he just was sort of stuck in there he holed up like it was a siege and he survived only by eating skunks Wow and then there was another guy who was bitten by a rabid skunk there are like two or three guys bitten by rabid skunks

one of which he crawled under a watering station along the railroad tracks like those big towers you know i guess to get out of the sun and he just died he never left that place he crawled under it and died and then another guy was bitten by a uh bitten by a rabid skunk and when he felt one of the bouts of hydrophobia coming on he took some of the strychnine that they used to um poison the hides for scavengers and he went out back and he swallowed a slug of strict nine and killed himself. That's interesting,

because I almost feel like you've got to try to get bit by a rabid skunk. I mean, it makes you wonder how many of there were out there. Yeah. You know, fascinating stuff. And then there's another guy

that they think he got bit by a rabid skunk, but they don't know. The skunk either scratched him or bit him while he was sleeping. It got on his face. I mean, if you're sleeping in a dugout cave

in a stream bank along a stream, I mean, all those critters run those streams, and you're in there sleeping, and they just come in and whatever you squat at it and get bit i think that's my i think that's one of my more fascinating discoveries from the research is just four stories about skunks the thing i think is cool about is like debunking the myth that these guys were like just bloodthirsty like they're somehow doing it out of malice and when actually it was like yeah it was like a good

job to have at the time yeah we get into that i mean that in the in the long larger context is like after the civil war there's just a lot of sort of restless veterans and displaced people especially if their hometown had been destroyed in the south or whatever else like they come back from war and life doesn't go back to normal for them so they head out west and also like the 1870s are a time of a lot of economic upheaval and business is failing and bankruptcies and stuff like that so yeah like there's a resource that's free for the taking and it's understandable that these guys would go out there and try to make a living, especially if they're

kind of predisposed to be like adventure seekers. I'm going to save listening to it. My daughter and I are road tripping to Wisconsin for the rifle season this year. And I'm going to save it for that. Perfect. It'll get you through. I'm going to make her listen

to it. It'll get you through, I think, six and a half hours of your drive, something like that. All right. Well, that's like a third. Yeah. Maybe get 400 miles out of it. That'd be good. Totally. Let's see. What else we got in our little chit-chat section here?

Shooting with the families. Rody and I went out and did a little plinking, set up some gongs. I need more stands for the gongs so we can have more distances. Yep. And not have the same, like, two gongs on one frame. Yeah, get them dialing weird distances, like, you know, in between distances. Mm-hmm. Yeah, we were just getting started.

We didn't get quite as far along with the competition thing. I had a brand new rifle that had never been shot. You guys should let me know. I'm just on the other side of the mountain. I know. Well, I mean, I come back from doing one of these, and then there's always like, oh, I should have called Randall.

I should have called, you know, Mike, because he's got a kid that also wants to shoot. But I will say, like, we had just, we were at the max amount of, like, how many guns can be going out at once. It's different if it's all. adult when you're trying to watch kids that are shooting it can get hectic yeah i don't need to shoot i can just help we can just be there to hear the bang oh okay well then definitely we could

use you luckily we had some quiet bangs going on at least until yannis broke up a rifle with the brake on it man it's like yeah the breaks are tough these days but when you go to canada you got you got to shoot break um i will say it's funny how i told my girl is going into it i'm like i would like you guys to try to shoot about a box or the whole box, you know, 20 rounds apiece, however you want to do it. Well, they get through like 10. They've hit every gong and they're kind of like, eh, you know, we've shot enough. I'm like, no, you haven't. You know, we might get to do this one, maybe two times, but before we go on the youth hunt, like, we need to shoot a bunch. And I'm like, okay, let's do a little competition. You got to hit 200, 300, and then

come and then bring it back and we're going to time you, you know, and every, miss counts for 15 seconds or whatever. And as soon as that was down, all of a sudden, everybody's like, all right, let me go, let me go at it, let me go at it. And then they each got another, whatever that was, six shots, five shots, you know, quickly. And it's really good because that little bit of stress of that competition, that is what it's going to feel like when there's a buck. And you have limited amount of time. And there's all of a sudden there's stress in the situation, self-induced, usually. when you're out hunting, right?

But, like, there is that stress. But it's, you can, you can mimic that by doing a little bit of a competition. I think it's really good for any shooter, you know. The kids get a lot out of it, but that's great for any shooter, yeah. I got other stuff I'd love to tell you guys about, all right, one last thing. I promise, Phil. Phil, it's already, like, is it going to be the longest up? Phil, we got any chat?

Chat going on? Second longest episode. Oh, Jesus. The chat just complaining that Yonis won't shut the hell up. No, they aren't. Are they really? No, everyone's loving it. I'm just, I'm just Josh.

All right, this is great. Sunday morning, we're having breakfast, kind of a late, late brunchy breakfast, the family. And someone looks over and is like, holy, look at me, it's his leg. And on his, like, lower, I forget which front leg it's on. I think it's his left, but, you know, maybe six or eight inches above his paw.

Big old gash. Like two inches long and it's kind of spread open, like a solid inch, maybe more. I'm like, ye, you know, like, that looks bad. I'm kind of wondering, like, who's going to be the one that takes him to the vet. And just where, like, people are listening, you kind of let him roam around and do his own thing. Yeah, we don't have a fence. We don't have a fenced yard.

He wears his GPS collar every single day of his life. And then that way, when he, usually, he's not much of a roamer until it gets evening time and it cools off. And then all of a sudden he starts to roam. I'm the same way. and uh anyway so it probably happened the evening before no one noticed it and then the next morning like hey look at that well all of a sudden everybody else has somewhere to be so i'm left with mingus and his open wound and they're like take care of it and i forget i had to go somewhere too so i didn't have that much time um but i take a picture sent it to my buddy jake i'm like what would

you do right now he's like that looks pretty fresh i think you can just staple it up I'm like, okay, I have bought the staple gun already. I'm prepared sitting in my truck in case we have a mountline, you know, mishap. And it's like the first thing you need to buy when you're a houndsman. Yeah, I got a GPS collar and a staple gun. Totally. And so I've got that. I watch a couple of YouTube videos.

Irrigate it with, you know, some warmed hot saline solution. Irrigate the hell out of it, maybe scrub it a little bit. and stapler shut and you're on your way. And so I did that. I got to the, oh, later we had to meet at a volleyball game for my oldest and I'm like showing them pictures and telling them my story. They were incredulous. They were like, you didn't do that?

You went to the vet. I'm like, no, no. I watched the YouTube video and stapled my dog up. It wasn't that hard. And they're looking at it and they're like, well, it looks pretty good, Dad. You know, I'm like, well, it wasn't that hard. but they're very much like, nice.

Did you really do this? And then later, though, I caught a lot of scrutiny about like, it's pussing a lot, maybe you look swollen. Are you sure you did it right? Anyways, I felt like I should be a vet. Sure.

That's great. After doing that, I'm like, I've super glued a dog, but not, but stapland. Like, did he squirm or yelp? He gave me like a false snap when I irrigated.

Oh, okay. But the staples, he barely flinched. Yeah. Yeah. And I didn't anesthetize him. Was it like clean, like sharp barbed wire kind of cut? That's what I'm thinking. You know, especially in that spot.

Yeah. Classic. And there's plenty of barbed wire on our property, you know. So, all right. Thank you all for, uh, that's the show, folks. We're halfway through. Hunting Big Country isn't for the faint of heart. You got steep ground, long distances, and miles of crown land that aren't always easy to navigate.

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We're going to interview Rich Froning now. And this interview, this first one, is brought to you by none other than Mountain Ops, whether you're training for the Mountain or just trying to feel your best every single day, Mountain Ops has your back. Speaking of performance,

We're joined today by one of the most accomplished athletes in the world of fitness, four-time CrossFit Games champion, and the man often called the fittest on earth. You guys thought that was me, but no, we're talking about Rich Froning. And he's here bringing that all together in a brand new podcast called In Pursuit, where he's exploring how the grit of competition and the challenges of the wild connect to something deeper in all of us. Rich, welcome to Meat Eater Radio Live. How are you?

What's up, boys? How are we doing? Excellent. We're doing great. Is it feeling? Rich, you're down in Nashville, correct? A little bit east in Cookville, but man, it's, it feels like fall here, man. It's getting me fired up. Mornings or crisp, you know, hot during the day, but it cools off pretty good at the evening. So, man, we just had Velvet Hunt this weekend. I didn't actually get to go out. I was in Texas. But seeing the pictures, man, it's getting me fired up. Oh, man, I love to hear it. I was thought you were going to tell me, It's just been still hot as balls and it's still summertime, but it sounds like

humidity dropped this week, and man, it's just you walk outside expecting to just get knocked down by a wall of humidity and there's none. It feels, feels like fall. Wonderful. Rich, can you give our listeners a quick behind-the-scenes peak and what inspired you to do the In Pursuit podcast? Like, what's going on with this podcast? Yeah, man, it's just a good time. And it's honestly, it's just me, nerding out and listening to some specialists in different areas, whether it's, you know, we had Joel Turner that episode just launched today. We had Kip Fulkes who runs a, he's going to outfit her up in Alaska for Grizzly, Moose, and all that. And then Joel we've had on, just talking about

shot IQ stuff and the high stress stuff you're talking about with shooting rifles. We do, he does a lot with bows. So it's just cool to talk to those guys and pick their brains. We had an NFL guy that, Zach Seeler that just actually signed a $45 million contract a couple of days after he left here. So, you know, we asked him for a percentage of that since we probably helped with that. But man, it's just, it's my own, I guess, pursuit for knowledge for lack of better terms, of just getting exposed to different guys and what they're doing and in the hunting and then also just in sport and how we can relate that to the outdoors. on that note like there's just reading through sort of the ideas behind in pursuit there's like the

grit of mountain hunting and then how that aligns with you know physical performance and the disciplines of crossfit like how do you how do you see those two like where's that intersection for you man i think it's just being a well-rounded athlete i mean you just finished a hundred mile race what a couple of weeks ago yeah it's been a month now but i can still feel it Yeah, I bet you're still feeling it. Yeah. You know, so with CrossFit, obviously, the idea is, you know, without getting too nerdy in it, you know, you don't want to be the strongest guy in the room. You don't want to be the guy that has the most power, but you also don't want to be the, you know, long, slow guy. You want to kind of be a mix or have some ability at each of those spots. And so, yeah, the idea is like, man, we just want to be as prepared for the mountains, preferably. You know, that's where my heart is. We've got a bunch of guys here that are Eastern hunters, and I've, in the last little bit, started doing some whitetail, but my heart's still out west as much as, you know, I'm stuck here in Tennessee. But, you know, we're going on two elk hunts in the next couple

weeks, archery. And so just being prepared for that, me personally, but also taking that and just helping people that want to go out and be able to go after something. What, tell me, I was thinking about this. I had some, during that hundred mile race. There are some real low points. Oh, yeah. I could point to a couple moments that were like what I would describe as the hardest. And we'll get to that. I'm actually going to come down and visit, Rich, and we're going to talk about this business. But what in all of your career of competing in CrossFit, is there a moment that stands out to you where you're like, oh, during this competition and this moment, I struggled and had to get through this low point to make it to, the other side. Man, I probably had too many to list. Probably the most infamous one was my first

crossfit games as an individual. I, you know, the final event, I was leading going into the final and a rope climb is the, there was like a three-part event and the final part was a rope climb with some burpees in there and really didn't think anything about it until I started getting to the rope and having done two workouts before that, just couldn't get up the rope. A lot of guys are using their feet. When I was a kid, my dad told me not to use my feet because that's for, you know, use whatever acronym you want to use or whatever you want to use there. I didn't know if it's PG-13 show. And so I just never used my feet. And so all these guys are going up and down the rope. Well, I got up it a couple times and fell pretty good. I think it was about 20 feet.

And there's, if you type in Rich Froning falls off rope on YouTube, you're welcome. But man, yeah, you just, I ended up losing the CrossFit games by three points, which is three places throughout the whole weekend and man i was just in a bad spot and so you know there's different things that you can look back on and man i just i hate losing i hate um being that guy that it's just i was born into a family of 32 first cousins 25 of us are boys my entire life has been a competition and so um i hate losing i hate failure i hate all that so man it just uh used it as a motivator in the next couple years i was like man i don't want to have that shame and you know huge in my faith. And so that was a, that was a big kind of eye-opener to that of like, man, just do it for

something else. Do it for something bigger than just yourself. Awesome. It sounds like quite the fault. I'm definitely YouTube that. I think Randall's already got it pulled up. I don't know if the sounds on my computer, so I don't want to fire it up right now, but it's lined up. All right. All right. Rich, rich, you mentioned Joel Turner, Kip, uh, uh, me. Who else you got that's, uh, that's coming on to talk? on In Pursuit that you're excited about? Man, we had Andy Galpin in, Dr. Andy Galpin, he's a... Oh, yeah, listen to him.

Yeah, man, that was a cool. Me, you know, being a nerd, being a fitness nerd, this is my background is my degree in. So being able to, like, nerd out on that type of stuff was a ton of fun. I've got another guy, Todd Anderson, which is, he's become a friend of mine. He's really into sleep. That'll be a ton of fun of, like, you know, what we think, just some minor changes you can make to improve performance because I think one of the biggest things in recovery is sleep. We've got a couple of new, maybe some nutritionists lined up, an athletic therapist or an athletic

trainer. So just like, you know, we all see the like crossfit style stuff or the ultra-endurance stuff, but, you know, the taking care of your body when you're not in the gym or not, you know, training for something even outdoors. I can tell you, that was my favorite part about running 100 miles was the two weeks of recovery and taking that very seriously, which basically means you just sleep your ass off. Lots of naps. Is this guy you're going to talk to?

Is he a nap proponent? Because I've been hearing that. Some people, we haven't really, we haven't gotten into it yet. He's coming on in the next couple weeks. I can't nap. My brain doesn't shut off during the day as bad as that sounds.

Like, once I'm up, I'm up. And so we'll see, man. Now I'll ask him about naps. So I'll make sure to put that one on there when we're on there. I'll say, Yonest wants to know about naps. Oh, definitely. Yeah, because I listened to one. I think it was actually on Gallup and show.

He was talking to Sleep Researcher from the Army. And a couple big takeaways was, one, yeah, naps are great. Don't go over 20 minutes. And then LeBron James takes three to four a day. That's what I was going to say. Napping's huge in the NBA, especially with late tip-offs. Yeah, yeah, that would do it. Yeah, you've got to control those cortisol fluctuations.

And, I mean, you want to talk about a crossover for elk hunting. If I don't get my midday nap in on an elk hunt, I am just, I'm going to be going downhill. A little reset. Yeah, I've got to get that little midday naping. All right, man, I'll look forward to hearing some episodes. Where can we find in pursuit? The Meteor Podcast Network, it's, I think today we just dropped the one with, um we kip was last two weeks ago and this uh today was jill turner so uh those will be on there

on i guess the channel that this is on so perfect we'll check them out there well thanks for kai joining us uh taking time away from your busy day and um yeah look forward to hanging out national here and i can get down there to talk running come on boys appreciate it all right thanks rich see it okay that was rich froning the in pursuit podcast I haven't listened yet, but I need to, especially if he's going to start talking about sleep, man. I'm into staying up on my sleep. Nothing like talking about sleep. I'm serious.

I know. I know. I'm serious. But it's also sort of funny. It is. It is. But people, like he just said, people don't take it seriously enough, man. And you're not performing at like.

I can't even sleep in the nighttime, much less the daytime. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, I take my sleep very seriously. Well, everybody does, but I feel for you, because I know a lot of, not a lot, but I know quite a few people in my life that don't have... Sorry, guys. They have a hard time.

Oh, all I'm in bed for hours. Just sleeping in general. All I'm in bed for hours just staring at the walls. Get up, walk around, go read a book. Take a cold shower. Read until my eyes close on the page. And then do that three more times and then I'm probably ready. Okay.

Working through the right stuff right now. Book about airplanes and space travel. About the astronauts, actually. Right, as in W-R. As in R-I-T-H. R-I-T-H-R-I-G-H-T I got you She didn't get a lot of sleep last night Yeah, Chuck Yeager

All right Real quick This won't take five minutes Moultry Mobile Trail Cam I say that guys Because in my little script here It says roughly how long

These little bits take But it's good We can make up some time here Moby Maltry Mobile Trail Cam Photo Contest Round 3 Okay

It's called titled Big Bull Elk you can go to how to enter your photographs you go to there's going to be an article i think we're dropping it today on media your website and you can submit your big bull elk trail camp photos we'll pick the top four photos to showcase during next week's show and then have the chat so if you come and listen next week live you're going to get to actually pick the winner the chat will do it prizes are tell them what they're going to win yannis here you go two Edge 2, First Light Spectre Cammo, Edition, Moultry Cameras with 10-watt solar power pack bundles. I can't say enough about those solar pack bundles, man. It makes them completely hands-off. The cameras are hands-off now. If they could now just make a function where the solar panel usually kind of, well, the one that's attached comes out of the top.

A lot of them have separate solar panels that you just attach to the cord, which I actually like better because that way you can have the solar panel facing south, camera face. But what they need now is another thing where a set of like big clippers comes out of the bottom Because what happens to me is I set them up in the spring nothing's growing and then and then right about now all of a sudden it's like this in front of my cameras and Moultrie just needs to have a little thing that comes out and just it can reach out about three feet And if they douse douse the stuff around the camera with some herbicide Listen I'm that has thought that thought has crossed my mind all right Once they get a drone, a drone that'll just hang them for you. It'll be set.

There's three prizes. It doesn't say if there's like a number one, number two, number three prize. They're all good prizes. Prize number two, $250 gift card to the meat eater's store, a $250 gift card to First Light. My goodness. And price four, I'm sorry, there's four prizes, a Case Knives, Brent Reeves' signature mini-trapper knife. Yeah, doesn't the winner just get all that stuff? That seems excessive.

Oh, maybe. Phil, have we just been picking one winner for those, haven't we? Damn. Yeah, one winner gets everything. Oh, my God. All right. I've got to set up some trail cameras. Get a quick, awesome bull elk picture.

My guess, if I could just look into the future a little bit, it's going to be something with a bull elk in a wallow. That's a typical spot for a trail king. Yep, and you get some water splashing, maybe a bull on his back, pissing all over himself. You could put it on a telephone pole outside Mammoth Hot Springs, too, and you'd do it all right. Oh, yeah. I don't know if the park's going to let you put a camera up. Just keep it quiet.

Okay, now we're on to answering a few questions from the chat. Phil, what do we got today? Yeah, and Janus already said so, just to reiterate, the article is not up yet, but it will be up later today. Okay. So, yeah, keep your, if you want to check back this evening, the meat eater.com, it should be pretty obvious. Submit your, it's a multery trail cam photo. You know what is up right now, though, Phil, is my most recent On the Hunt episode, where I went to Wyoming to shoot a pronghorn. Check that out.

Trophy pronghorn. Trophy. I was going for a trophy. I learned a lot about judging trophy pronghorn on this trip. You guys want to watch Rich fall off of a rope? Yes, please. I felt bad doing it when he was on the line, but. Here's Rich going up.

He's only using his arms. Oh, dang, Rich. That could have been a broken tailbone there. Yeah, that looked tough. And that Spartan race, me and Hayden did, we watched a guy, you got a swing from ring to ring, you know? Yeah. And a big muscular guy like Rich made the big long swing,

but didn't hold on, landed flat on his back, and broke his collarbone. Like, we heard it snap. How did you do on those rings? I did all right, because I'm, like, skinny and spry. I don't got a lot of weight to me. Right, right, right, right, yeah. Dang, that looks rough. Yeah. And he still took the other place.

You ever broken your tailbone? No. Oh, it's not fun. I mean, I've had it. How'd you do it? Have you done it? Yeah. Is there a story? Playing basketball, posting the guy up.

He thought it'd be funny to just whack with a knee. Ooh. Yeah. Oh, that did it. Yeah. No kidding. Oh, it was awful. Awful.

Your coxics. That's what they call it. Rinal can't take those hard foul. I like the fact that you're a you're a B-ball player I'm going to get my hoop down here from my house oh yeah and then in the winter time we should sit up in my barn and max oh yeah that's a good idea I know that we have max you uh Spencer and uh Nick Tapia all right let's get a question in Phil sure it's get a question in uh let's see here um Trey Woods is asking

for some crew score predictions for the tailgate tour something like college game day randall you got any predictions you want to you want to share at least for the game you're going to i guess what i'm thinking is i just don't want them to lose at home first game of the season it's going to be really coming as defending national champions i mean there's just there's a lot of pressure and arch manning i mean i don't know i just it's going to be a bad scene if they lose, so I'm thinking positive thoughts, but as you can tell, I'm also thinking negative thoughts, so...

Well, they still have that literal highlight reel of a wide receiver. Jeremiah Smith. Yeah, that guy is incredible. Jeremiah Smith for Heisman. That was actually one of the questions here, Randall, is your predictions for Heisman this year. You want to know some Heisman trivia. Please.

Yeah. The figure on the statue? Uh-huh. That's Jay Berwanger. It's a quarterback at the University of Chicago, back when we were powerhouse interesting I like that Randall you're full

of stuff like that we got another one Phil that was from Trey John asks Janus have you seen anyone doing a 100k barefoot nope

I haven't is that a thing that happens I think maybe a little bit there's a there's some of that barefoot or like super

minimalist shoe stuff going on the thing you see sometimes there's these running sandals that they are very minimalist I mean the sole is flat

and it's like a quarter inch and then there's just a couple straps going over the foot to hold the sole underneath you that's the closest I've seen to anybody doing one of these barefoot and I don't know if you train in it

they probably finish sorry I misspoke Jay Berwanger with a halfback I'm disappointed Nathan asks Crew, what are some plans slash traditions that you have on Labor Day weekend if you have any?

Do you guys have any sort of go-to activities or stuff to do with the family? Camping, fishing, and or hunting. Yeah. Camping. It's a great camping weekend. It is. It is. Send off to the summer before. Yeah. We're going to do a little barbecue

with the neighbors. Catch up. We haven't seen them in a little while. My oldest daughter just made a pat on her back again, twice in one episode. She made the Bozeman High School freshman volleyball team, the A team. And I've now realized that it's a fall sport and it's going to affect our fall activities. Oh, yeah. My son's figuring that out with cross country. Luckily for youth season, it's not going to affect it.

We're good for anelope opener and use season. And those are the two big ones for us right now. Do you want to do another one, Phil? Yeah. I don't know how much has been announced or how much we can say, but Azor King asks, when is the mediator crew going to do live podcast tours again? I don't think we can say. Okay, I would say just keep your eyes.

I don't want to do it. Open. I'm not doing anything. I'm not going to touch it. Yeah, just stay posted. It'll, yeah. Hang on. Keep your eyes open.

Yeah. It's not going to be, yeah, yeah. I don't know about like the podcast. I don't even think you should have clicked on this question, Phil. Be optimistic and stay posted. There you go, Brody. Yeah, if you, like, live in the southeast part of the country, you're probably going to be pretty excited. We're going to get a call from the C-suite here in a minute.

If nobody said, we can't talk about it, so what the hell? I just assume I can't talk about things until they tell me to plug it. Clean lines of communication around here, if they're going to be mad about this. Let's move on. We got a lot of stuff to cover. All right, all right, all right. Brody says no more questions. All right. Sorry, guys.

We can do a long, we can do a long ending question, Sesh. On to our next interview. Many of you know Parker Hall from Meat Eater's Season 8 episode Flathead Catfish and Gray Squirrels, where he taught Steve how to eat sunflower seeds properly, specifically how to build a little gravy in the seeds. This was alongside bankpole fishing for flatheads and squirrel hunting with his feist ruby. This episode is recently released on the YouTube channel as part of season 8 being released there. That started, I think, about a month ago. This is the first episode in season 8.

I highly recommend you check it out. There's a very good tutorial on how to fry fish the right way in there, too. Yes. I still do things that I learned from Parker on that trip. One being, speaking of fried fish, Parker's going to probably, he's not on yet, so he can't even talk. I'm talking for him, but Parker seasons his fish before breading it, which I think is crucial. The other day, we did a breading that had mixed sizes of the breading itself, like there was some panco, there was some flowers and cornstarch. As the breading got used up, the big stuff, the panco was gone.

It was turning into a just flour and cornstarch breading, which is why, if you think about it, salt and pepper are similarly sized, right? They're fine. And that's why Parker does all, seasons the fish first. Because if it's in your breading, that salt and pepper are not getting onto the fish as much as whatever bigger chunks of breading you have on there. Say it's cornmeal or whatever, right? So if you want even seasoning, you've got to season the fish first. Thanks, Parker.

All right. Let's see. He's currently watching this. Cannot say anything. We thanked him. Okay. Let's see. We don't even need to bring him on anymore.

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Head to firstlight.com. That's F-I-R-S-T-L-I-T-E dot com. Parker and I stay in touch via text, usually sending each other videos of our dogs barking on trail or treat. If you know, you know. Parker is the state director of the USDA's Wildlife Services Florida program, and his main focus is alleviating damages associated with feral swine. This includes protection of agriculture, natural resources, threatened and endangered species, and disease monitoring. Today he's joining us while he's taking DNA samples from trapped hogs that are threatening sea turtles. Did you know that? That could be a thing? No. No. You now. Welcome to the show, Parker.

Uh-oh. I can't hear. him. I don't think it's my fault. You got your mic on, Parker? How about now? Hey, there you go. Nailed it. Did you like that introduction, Parker? That was great. That was perfect introduction. And also perfect description of why you should bread, I mean, season your fish first. Excellent, excellent description. Perfect. Okay. I see that you have a, uh, what looks be either a dead or a necessized pig in front of you. What are you doing with that thing?

So thank you for the introduction and good overview. This is a dead pig, not a necessized. So something we do in the state is protect, like you said, agriculture, threatened endangered species, sea turtles, people who are trying to manage their land and being overrun with pigs. We are not actually doing Sea thermal protection day, although we do it all over the state, this is a land manager that's trying to manage deer and turkeys and warm season grasses and all those kind of things. So we had a group of pigs captured today, and part of what we do with USDA Wildlife Services is also a monitor for diseases. There's a number of diseases that we take, samples we take and we look at, including pseudorabies, brucellosis, classical swine fever, African swine fever,

we look at some of the flu viruses, HPAI, all sorts of things. So as part of that, all the pigs that we capture, we do take samples of them. And I was just going to kind of go through that today and show you guys what we take. And then if there's any questions you have about what we're looking for, while we're looking for it, that'd be perfect. All right. So move on. All right. What we have to do is make sure we put on our PPE.

it's kind of it's good to wear when you're taking samples and dealing with feral swine and most of you guys know and one thing that we deal with in the southeast particular with feral swine

to an extent is suitorabies and bruselosis. So suitorabies is not a zoonotic disease meaning people can't get it but bruselosis you can. And for those of you that are clean and feral swine

and those things that the bruselosis just kind of hangs out in the reproductive tract and the lactating areas and those kind of things. So it's always a good idea to use some protection when you're cleaning feral swine if you're going to consume them. And all these diseases that we're talking about, some of them could be transferred to people. Some can't, but they're all killed if you cook it to a proper temperature. There's something, the first thing I'm going to do is going to take some blood, hopefully. This animal has been dead for some time, so hopefully it's not conveiled.

too much. So pressure's on. What I'm doing is trying to make a heart stick and going in the top of the heart. And then that goes into a vial. And these vials are pressurized, as you can see. All right, this goes into my collection kit. Then I'll take a couple more samples. This next sample, I'll just get a little drop of blood and put it on a on a Q-tip, and then that goes in some media, which I cannot open. Get my Q-tip out. Hey, Parker, if you've got a helper there, would you mind asking them just to angle that camera just up, just a hair? We're mostly looking at the bottom half of your face. Okay. how's that there we go perfect better okay good all right and this this goes into media and

this in this one particular is looking for a foreign animals a African swine fever we don't we do not have that in in the United States but it's in Haiti and and down that those type of areas it's in Africa it's pretty bad we don't want it in in feral swine in the United States And the reason we look for a lot of these diseases in feral swine is for protection of our domestics. So some of them we used to have, we've eradicated, and we're trying to keep them out. The feral swine all over the country can act as a reservoir, right? So if a disease gets in those wild populations, it's much more difficult to get rid of or treat or do whatever you need to do. The ones that are in captivity, the ones we use for our food source, we could treat those animals and kind of stamp out diseases.

So it's really bad if they get in the wild, try to keep them, you know, try to keep monitoring. And if we see something, then we can take proper precautions and talk with our state ag and our state wildlife agencies. And then they can take the steps that they're going to do. So got that one. And the last sample I'll take off of this animal is DNA. Genetic sample. That's just an ear clip. We take that and put that into this media and then that sent.

And what we're trying to do in USDA is get a map of feral swine all over the, all over the continental United States to see movements, to see if animals came from one area, been relocated to another area, try to stop translocation, try to see natural movements and how they're doing. Pigs are really taken off all over the country. And we're learning a lot of of valuable information using this genetic technique. So those are the three main samples that we would get that all goes on to a data sheet and you can notice they have these bar codes so when we send that in the barcode matches with the vial scan scan scan and goes into you know the list and then all of our Excel

spreadsheets get sent to us and people go through those and take them take a look and see what our prevalence prevalence are like I said mostly in the southeast pseudorabies brucillosis are ones we have and along with tricktricinosis lepto those those types of things we also we also look and when we first get the animal we just kind of go over it and see if there's any lesions or anything that's looking abnormal and if there are something we see some blistering some sloughing of the hooves then we contact our our state veterinarians and maybe get them involved and see if there's something that, you know,

it was on the landscape that we haven't seen or something we don't want. Hey, Parker, like, what percentage of the pigs you're examining have one of these diseases? Like, can you make a ballpark on that? Actually, know the answer to that. Oh. About, if I believe it or not, about 25% of the pigs that we have in Florida are positive for pseudo-ravees. Now, like I said, that's not so people can't get it, but it's fatal in dogs and some other animals.

And a little, to a lesser extent, brucellosis, which is about 15% or so. So it is a... I have lots of questions, but if you guys have some, please go. I don't have a question. I just wanted to say that had I known you were waiting with a dead hog for us, I would have insisted that we interview you first, so you didn't have to sit there with your dead hog. and your P.P.E. for 45 minutes, but appreciate you having you on. Parker, you mentioned the translocation and that your guys are kind of keeping an eye on that.

I'm assuming that that's being done by humans and that it's probably being done by hunters that want to hunt feral swine in their area. Is that true? Is that what you guys are fighting a little bit? Yeah, that's what we find. USDA is non-regulatory, but if we have a new population show up where they've never been before in the middle of the country, we're able to remove some of those. And then we work with our state game and fish agencies. It'd be like these came from, you know, we're in South Dakota and these genetically go back to Orlando or whatever, that area. So there's some valuable information that's that's being gained there. And we can tell there's certain areas in the country where a lot of pigs are coming from.

And it's pretty neat stuff to be able to see where those hogs are being moved from and where to. So, yes. Can you, can it's a good. I was just going to say, can you just tell us just quickly so we can spread the message of why translocating pigs is a bad idea if you don't know? Well, other than the disease issues I've talked about and all the peony species, agriculture, you know, destruction in the woods, competing with deer and turkeys, they're a non-native invasive species. So it's just like any other non-native invasive species. They don't belong here.

They didn't involve on the landscape and they compete with all of our native animals and give our agricultural community a pretty big headache. I love Parker's job. Parker, you love your job? Love my job. I think there's got to be some kids out there listening, some young, people, maybe some old people that want to change their career. If someone wanted to get into doing what you get to do on a daily basis, which is every time we talk to you, I'm like, man, that sounds

like fun what Parker's doing? Like, what do they need to do in school? And then what do they need to do in after school, sort of to get the experience to get in that line of work? And thank you for asking that question. We're kind of a smaller agency in Wildlife Services. So we do have, believe it or not, trouble getting applicants sometimes. So we have different levels of jobs, technicians, you know, they can come to work with wildlife services with no college degree. They need some experience in the outdoors, trapping, you know, animal damage kind of stuff, any of those types of things. They can come to work in those jobs, those employees are the backbone of wildlife services. They do all the work and we get all the credit.

Just like this this trap behind me and the in these feral swine that were trapped. I didn't do it. I was too busy doing spreadsheets one of my good technicians did it and so those people are out there and it's a great job. A lot of our jobs are posted on USA jobs. That's the government website. You can also look up your H. Wildlife Services State has a web page. You can go and call the state director or call the district supervisor ask around in the state that they know as you move up you do need. You do need to do a college degree, like a four-year degree in some sort of natural resources, biology, wildlife, all those sorts of things. And that gets you up to that biologist level. And then after you get to that, you can work your way up. But the crux and the heart and soul is our technicians, you know, are people who are in the woods making a difference. Yeah. Were those pigs pretty easy to trap or were these some of those difficult pigs that you've talked

about in the past with us? No, these were these ones are pretty easy. These these haven't been messed with a whole lot. So they weren't too difficult. Some of them get super hard and you know we're talking about a little earlier protecting sea turtle nests. And that's a big thing that that we do. And some of those guys get squirly because we chase them, we chase them pretty hard. They'll get out, you know, Florida being what a deal with so much coastline and so many nesting sea turtles and feral swine are high populations here. So those pigs will get out on the beach. to just dig up turtle nest after turtle nest after turtle nests. And some of those can get kind of squirly to get to. If I had known as a younger person that wildlife tech also included trapping and possibly hunting these animals, I could be on a completely different career path. Not too late, Yonnes. All right.

Thanks for that, Parker. I hope that you actually get some people that call you up interested in possibly working for that agency. Now, before I invited Parker to come on this show, he had text me and said, hey, man, what you guys should do one time on one of your podcast thingies, that's the term he used, is that you guys should name your top three favorite sounds from the woods. And he had already, at that time, at that moment, he sent me to list his top three favorite ones, along with a video where you could hear one of the sounds that he said.

Now, Parker, do you want to tell me what your, do you remember what your three are that you, uh, that you sent to me in text? I do remember my, I do remember. Well, I think I remember my three because they don't really change. But, um, before we get to the three, I think it's super important to point out. Please. That every we do in building up in the outdoors, um, we go through a lot of preparation, a lot of things and getting all ready in the excitement.

And then all of a sudden, you're there. But when you hear a sound, you know it's all come to fruition. Something's about to happen. And so I started thinking about that. I was like, man, sound is such an important thing, you know, when you're outside, you know, recreating, hunting, fishing, doing all those sorts of things. So I do know my three. All right.

Well, I'm going to let you start then. And I want you to start with the number three and then go to two and then go to the top one. Okay. number three for me is probably a tree dog um and i love the sound of a tree dog um you know i have ruby and you have your good blue dog who by the way has a beautiful voice and it echoes out through them mountains and then man i can't get enough of it i show it to so much like listen to this dog i love it and you know you're you're running the track run the track run the track and then that changes that chop man you know something's about to happen so i really love that part

oh yeah what you go what you got what is that beautiful phil do you also have parker's uh ruby all right parker what's your number two favorite sound in the woods or the outdoors my number two sound is a drag singing just when you hook up to the fish and that drag you know better than that you know it's just something that that gets your heart going you know something good is about to happen so that's the number two okay we're going to play it right now that's what I'm talking about yeah last fall we got to fish similar water

to what Parker is fishing there on the coast of Florida we were on the coast of Louisiana and I'm assuming that was a redfish in that video and we got to experience a lot of that and you can't help but giggle like when that is happening and that reel is going backwards and making that sound singing, you just can't help but giggle.

I mean, it is just one of the best. All right. Number one sound in the turkey woods, Parker. The best sound now. Oh, sorry, in the woods, I meant to say. In the woods is when you are hunting a turkey and you've been working him for some time and all's quiet and you know in the game, you know he's coming, but you don't know where he's gobbled last about 20 minutes ago.

and you're just frozen and all of a sudden you hear that drum and you're right on top of you buddy and I'm telling you it gets your heart pumping so fast you freeze rock solid and you hear it again

that's the best sound in the woods if you asked me beautiful now for those of you a turkey drumming the spit you can kind of catch on camera But that sound of the drum itself, it's one of those sounds that is,

for whatever reason, a microphone has a hard time picking up that home. It's so low frequency. Right. And like new turkey hunters, I think hear that, like it doesn't even register with that. Like I've tried to point it out to people

and they're like, what are you, I don't hear anything, you know? You guys want to go next or do you want me to go? You can go. All right. I'm going to speed mine up a little bit.

We already heard, My number third, number three was Mingus Bark and Tread. We already heard Mingus. Number two, this is also a video I sent to Parker. I was really thinking about, like, what makes me happy when I hear a sound? And I was thinking, man, when I drop in some fish or some turkey nuggets into some oil, and that oil just is crackling away. Oh, yeah.

Oh, that is a good sound. And like Parker said, you know something's good. It's about to happen. You're about to put that stuff in your mouth. That sounds changes a little, too, like when you first throw it in versus when it's ready. Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good point. That's a good point.

All right, number one, and I will say, man, there's a lot of good sounds out there. But this is what came to mind in the last 24 hours. I was putting some effort into making this come together. Is the deer walking through the woods, crunching leaves on. underfoot, specifically a heavy deer and oak leaves. I don't, were you able to pull anything like that up, Phil? No, because this is literally the first time I'm hearing about this. Okay.

But you all, if you're a deer hunter out there, Randall, Brody, you guys have both been there, Pennsylvania, Ohio, it's like another sound that you don't really see it before it happens. It's like a lot of times for me when I'm in a tree stand, that's what, tips me off to the presence and somehow I don't know how but I feel like I'm getting to the point where I can tell the difference between 120 pound dough and 175 to 200 plus pound buck like I couldn't do that it's been so long since I sat in a tree stand that as you're describing this all I can think about is how similar squirrel sound to deer in my in my memory yes and the moment you think you got that figured out you're like ah that's a squirrel

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All right, who's next? Doesn't matter, Randall, you? Sure, I can go. I brought in a prop for my first sound. Oh, Randall's opening a breakdown rod case. Now, Brody, if you hold this there. Sure. Is this going to hurt me?

Nope. I just need you to hold that. that nice and stiff. Oh, I know where he was going with this. Now we go. Randall's got a... We go, picture this. You're sitting by a riverbank at night.

You cast your bait out, settles on the bottom nicely. A warm summer night with crickets? A warm summer night. You click off your headlamp and you crack open an ice cold beverage. And then all of a sudden you hear... Put that by your mic. And then you hear... And that's how you know, old Mr. Catatterfish has your bait.

Nothing more exciting than hearing that bell ring when you're, when you're catfishing at night. Number two, picture this. It's deer season. You're with your buddy. He goes one way, you go the other. You're hiking five minutes, ten minutes, whatever. And you guys are the only guys out there.

then all of a sudden boom your buddy shoots what about the thwap the thwap is good too I was thinking specifically of when we were in Mexico and we were listening on the radio

and our buddy shot a buck and he hit it good but it went off and we could hear him kind of scrambling like I don't know if like where is he where is he looking for him looking for him we're sitting there like biting our lips and then all of a sudden you hear boom

He found him. Just a gunshot where you know exactly what happened. That's the best sound in the world. Actually, that's number two. That's number two. I'm tracking. You have two great sounds so far, Randall. Picture this.

You're deer hunting in Idaho. It's 4.30. You've got a long hike ahead of you. Driving down a bumpy road, you're listening to maybe a podcast, maybe the Meteeter podcast. Maybe you're listening to some music that'll pump you up. rock and roll hip hop whatever your thing is you get there you put your headlamp on you shut the car off get outside and you close the door perfect silence when all that noise just stops i feel like whenever i close my truck door and it's there's nothing it's like

something just washes over you hmm the sound of silence sound of silence is your number one The sound of silence That's my number That's my top three Good job, Randall I enjoyed that Brody My number three

Would be a grouse flushing Right at your feet You got the noise fill Oh yeah That's a very exciting sound If you're a grouse hunter And it can take you by Let's take you by surprise a lot of times

too. And it means good things. So that's a good one for me and my dog. My number two is a magpie called the Whisper Song. Got that, Phil? It almost sounds like they're talking a little bit when they're doing that, like human talking sometimes. I'm only familiar with the Whisper song by the Ying Yang Twins.

Not familiar with that one. It's parentheses, the whisper song. This one's way better than that. Careless whisper. Because this is often out west the sound of a successful big game hunt. Oftentimes, very soon after you shoot and walk up to a mule deer, elk, what have you, you're going to hear that song pretty quickly. And it goes on the whole time while you're breaking that animal down because they know a big meal's coming. Good things on the horizon.

Yeah. So that's a sound I love. My top one, similar to Randalls, a little more specific. It's when you, because I think this is a very rare thing to hear, which is like you get to the glass and knob, you sit down. And it usually takes a little while to sink in. And you realize that it is completely quiet. There's no background noise, no cars, no planes flying. overhead no dogs barking no cows moo and it's it's very rare to hear it may be a little more common

out here in the wide open spaces of montana it's tough to find probably in wisconsin but like it's almost jarring when it sinks in oh yeah when you're you're like oh my god there's like no background like no wind noise even and they're no longer panting from the hike in yeah you get that I don't like to hear my pulse. That rare super still day. It's the best. Man, you boys got me fired up. I was fired up an hour and 10 minutes ago, 15 minutes ago.

You guys now with the sounds of nature, the top ones, I might just take the rest of the day off and go fish and so I can hear a real thing or go fry some fish or go find a spot in the woods that is silent. I want to go somewhere and just see if I get surprised by a gunshot. Ooh. Everyone's dream. Hey, Parker, thank you for joining us.

Thank you for bringing your work to light here and for sharing and for coming with the idea of the top three favorite sounds. I'm sure we're going to use that one again. It was an inspired suggestion. Thank you. Very much so. For all of you at home, thanks for watching and listening. What about listening?

Oh, we've got to do more feedback? I figured Phil was just going to cut me off. Parker, you are. are free to go, man. Thanks, Parkman. You can walk away from that dead hog now. See ya. He's a good sport.

Hey, I'll hear you. How about this, Janus? I'm going to call a quick audible. Instead of doing questions, how about we go over? The chat had a lot of great suggestions for sounds from the outdoors. Oh, yeah. I haven't really been reading all of them. That's brilliant.

You know, play it by ear. Keith says, uh, drumming of a rough grouse. The song of a red wing blackbird and the thwack of an arrow connecting. I like all three of those Texas smoking says Turkeys wouldn't even make his list which seems controversial Seems like a hot take

Texas smoking I like it Wood duck as the sun comes up It's pretty nice The first western meadowlark of spring That's a good I like sandhill cranes Yeah So fun

Spencer Newhart says a big buck walking to the wood Sounds the same as a squirrel That's true No it doesn't Spencer don't know That's true. You don't know what he's done. He hunted in North Dakota.

They don't have leaves that the deer crunch on. Andrew says, an arrow slicing through the air, turkey goblin the distance, and a bull out screaming at you from 30 yards away. You guys didn't hear this. Randall, when you were talking about your gunshot,

I played a gunshot, but I didn't have the audio in the room up. But the chat heard it, and apparently it was timed perfectly. So, Good job, Phil, once again. Did it go with my boom? It did.

It did go. It was this. I look forward to watching this on YouTube. Okay. That'll be fun. Randall, I liked it. It was that your friend shoots something and not you. Spencer is arguing with you.

He says that they do have trees. Not with leaves. When you were like with someone and they're like, I'm going to go after that deer. And you're just sitting there and like you lose side of your body and you lose side of the deer and you're just waiting. And then all of a sudden, boom. It's just like. What happened? You want to know.

You do? There's nothing better. Jude says one million duck calls all at once on public land. No, that's not my top, man. Yeah, a lot of, we got a lot of upland birds flushing. So, yeah, thanks for sharing your thoughts, chat. Appreciate it. Yanni, you are completely off camera right now.

Oh, sorry. That's okay. I'm just kicking back reading along with you. We could do least favorite sounds sometimes too. I hate to dwell on the negative Yeah, but you know It's part of life Things going wrong out there

Yeah All right so no questions today Phil We're at a good time You guys don't seem very receptive to questions No I'd love to hit a couple questions We love questions We got plenty of time The only reason that I would get finished

Right now is for your time Phil I want to be respectful of your time That does mean a lot I didn't have breakfast and it's lunchtime And I'm getting them Get a little hungry Packish Let's see Spencer is asking

He says, ask the guys how the SIG range day competition went, in parentheses. Who won? Is he talking to you? I don't even know what range day competition he's talking about. Oh, when we were out at the... When it was the whole crew? Who did win? The whole crew except for me and Steve were recording the audiobook.

Were you there, Brody? Yeah. Was I there? Yep. We were shooting together. Who won? I'm guessing Spencer won. I'm guessing Spencer won.

Good job, Spencer. Let's move on another question. What does this have to do? I don't know. He's just wanting to talk smack. He's just sad. He's not here right now. Well, that's the thing.

It's like this happens with Randall. When Randall's in the chat sometimes, they're the ones fielding questions. So people just ask them questions for the whole show. Oh, look. Azora King asked, when are we doing another live podcast tour? Possibly at the end of this year. Look at Nate's question. Oh, which, let's see.

At the bottom. At the bottom. Oh, yeah, yeah. Nate asks, it says, Phil, what was Randall's score on trivia if he played yesterday's game yet? He needs to know if his win is legit. I got a perfect game driving into the

Trivary to the office yesterday. I mean, I felt like questions one through five were just gimmies for me. Chronograph? I know, I can't believe I'm Brody and I both had the same wrong answer. Great Basin National Park.

Oh, people in the YouTube comments, Yanni, were angry about Nate's tree stand. answer? They said that that should have been accepted. No, it shouldn't have. Well, it wasn't me to make the final cost venture was hosting, so. But I agree with him. It wasn't the right answer. Let's call the show there, guys. You don't want to end on a good one? Is that not a good one? No, Phil's saying

there's no good questions left, Randall. Well, here's the thing. I love everyone who watches this show every week. If you're asking questions in the chat, you're doing a great job. But a lot of the questions are sort of like, hey, can I have some tips about deer hunting? And we need to get more specific with the questions, you know? Is there just a weird question? Can we get a weird one? A weird question.

Randall does it doesn't want to go. I normally don't flag this super weird question. Okay, Freddie Rick said he was late to the show because he was butchering an antelope and then he followed up with what is a good use for the outside round besides jerky or grind? Outside round is a different term than what I know is he talking about top round? I don't know if he's talking top or

bottom. It's got to be one of those, too. Oftentimes, I mean, I just roast it. Both of the rounds make good steaks. I eat a lot of round sticks. Yeah. Yeah. I ate a lot of round sticks. Yeah, totally. And what I'll do, sometimes if I cut one and it's a little bit chewy, the next time

I make that same cut, I just give it a little pounding. Sure. And it's fine. And listen, man, I feel like people don't use enough good cuts off the high and quarter. If you want good burger use good cuts if all you use is shank and shoulder for burger

it's not gonna be great burger preach that shit rody do any of you eat your wild game brains no

that was from Peter no but they want to know why not Peter wants to know why not yeah that's my answer

too I guess, like, no one's ever come to me and been like, hey, this is a good idea. It's delicious. You should prepare it this way. Like, I just, you know, you hear of some tribes somewhere eating some brains every now and then. There's also, like, and I don't want to be, like, scare and, like, people for no reason. There's also, like, disease concerns with eating brain, some brains of some animals, like, CWD collects in the nervous system and, you know, brain. remember that wasn't there some rumor flying around about eating squirrel brains one time

that's right um so yeah just don't do it uh see here's an example of one that i'm not sure it like brodie i want your take since you're you're you're you always give an honest response to you pull me back in here you pull me back in gabriel asks put in for my first draw hunt in southern indiana and drew a bow tag for middle of october it's a unit that he can't get into beforehand to scout he has two days to hunt any advice or points i think y'all this is not a question for me because it's like a white-tailed bow archery hunting question, so I'll pass it off the Yannis. And you know, I can't get into beforehand to, so there's no scouting and he has to literally

just roll in and hunt. The cold roll. You know, a lot of people say that October is the time for afternoon hunts. Going on that notion. And whether that was the case or not, I would spend at least the first half of the first day, maybe more, maybe three quarters of that day, just pounding the ground and looking for sign and learning those woods and trying to figure it out.

I'm guessing it sounds like it's a good tag to have if it's so limited, so maybe there's not a lot of pressure. I think that you pounding around and trying to figure it out for three quarters of a day that just then leaves you like an evening hunt and then possibly, you know, a morning in the evening the next day. That is time better spent than just going in there off of a, and like a little bit of, not that you should definitely do a whole bunch of onyx scouting.

Well, that's what I was going to say. But, like, you can't rely and don't be like, that's going to be the perfect saddle. You just don't know. You got to go there and look. You should find out, maybe call down there and see what the acorn crop is like this year. Like in Wisconsin this year, we have a booner crop. but find out what's going on down there for feed ahead of time that'll you know educate on where you need to go what you need to do but i think my number one thing would do to do was just be to take

the time on the ground the first day and pound the ground find the sign and and you don't have to find rubs and scrapes and all that find like some good looking deer trails that look recently used find fresh uh scat i think that you're going to be well on your way um one thing I would add, even though this isn't my type of hunt, but if this guy is talking public land, I'd be looking on on X for something that presents difficult access for a lot of other

hunters. Sure. Got to hike over ridge. But the difficult access might have already been overcome or been sort of presented through this draw of a tag or whatever. Maybe. It's Indiana, so there seems like there's going to be hunters, you know. True. True. Good luck, Gabriel. let's do one last one last one here

this one's for Randall if they could oh H I oh I cannot support that as a Penn State fan thank you all for listening and watching at home

hope you enjoyed this episode of Meat Eater Radio live who's hosting next week is it one of you I'm hosting I'll be joined by Cal and Seth Hey. Hey, that sounds like a banger of an episode.

Oh, it's going to be real fun. Tune in. They're going to choose the winner of the Moultry set big, big bull trail camera photo contest. You at home will be choosing the winner. That's right. Okay, but you guys are going to be watching live to vote. Okay.

Randall's going to present. We're going to choose the top four. Randall's going to present the top four. And to leave you, one more time. Let's listen to Randall's. One of his favorite sounds. Until next time. ultra processors. That's the power

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