The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 771: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CLXXXIV

Episode Date: October 1, 2025

Janis Putelis guest hosts MeatEater Trivia with Bronson Strickland, Spencer Neuharth, Seth Morris, Brody Henderson, Cory Calkins, and Sam James. Connect with MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and YouTube Clips Subscribe to MeatEater Podcast Network on YouTube Shop Trivia MerchSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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joined by Spencer, Brody, Corey, Seth, and Bronson Strickland. Bronson, this is your first time on the show. How do you think you'll do at Meat Eater Trivia? If I do 50%, it'll be a victory for me. I'm terrible at trivia. Do you ever play along with this show at home? I have a couple times with graduate students in the truck, and I always lose. Even though you're a doctor.

Yeah, that's pretty meaningless. Trivia. What have I told you that all of the questions today are about white tails? Would that make you feel any different? A little better. Absolutely. Okay. But also more embarrassed when I miss questions about white tails.

Yeah. Well, as I always hope when I host an episode, I hope I make them hard but not too hard because no one likes it when I come in here with a bunch of hard questions. So I think there's some softballs in here. We'll see. Now, normally, this is a 10-round quiz show, the questions from meat eaters' four verticals, which are hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking.

But this is White Till Week. So in honor of North America's most pursued game animal, every question today is about the White Tilled deer. I was still able to work that into three out of the four verticals, but fishing stumped me. Normally, the prize is a $500 donation on behalf of the winner, but today that's also different. Today, the winner will get a lifetime membership to the National Deer Association,

which is a $1,500 value. Dr. Strickland, Ronson, tell folks why they should be a member of the National Deer Association. Because it is an organization all about deer, all about education, making people better hunters, better stewards, advocacy for deer. So it's just a wonderful organization made up a great people. I'll give them a little props. I find myself oftentimes unsubscribing from email lists. Because I'm like, I'm not reading the stuff you're sending them.

NDA, I haven't. Now, I won't read every article that comes to my inbox, but there's a lot of them. I'm like, you know what, that could be good for me, and I read it. They do a very good job of bridging the gap between biologists like Dr. Strickland and hunters like us. and like giving us good information that will make us better hunters, better land managers, just like have a better time in the woods and be more educated about whitetails. Yep. Now, for the stat of the week, we're looking at the fat discounts you can get during whitetail week.

Obviously, this is a script written by Spencer, and he is just straight up plugging the sale that's going on during White Tail Week. So now, through Sunday, October 5th, a bunch of... of R and your favorite white tail gears on sale, including the first light phase kit, the core kit, and the thermic kit, all 30% off. The source jacket, 40% off. You can get a Maltry Edge 2 cell cam 2 pack for 100 bucks. That means you save 60 bucks off of if you're going to buy two separately. The FHF rival sling bundle is 20% off.

The Phelps Omega Hybrid Grunt Tube is 40% off. Um, and obviously there's a bunch, bunch more. Basically all, Sam just told me, um, all meat eater brands are on sale this week. Um, you can see the deals at firstlight.com or the meat eater.com. Um, who's got something, Sam? Yeah. What do you, what are you excited about for this sale? What do you think is a good deal?

Uh, I really like those Moultry Edge two game cameras. Those are sweet. Get those out in the woods and get after it. I also, um, there's some, uh, some discounts on some, Meteor merch that's in the store, too. Good white tail gear. It has never been easier or cheaper to run a cell camera than like this very moment on Earth. The cams are very good.

The prices are cheap. The plans to run them monthly are reasonable. If you own some land, if you like have access to land and sell cams are legal, this is like the moment to do it if you've thought about it for a while. Yeah. And if you set them up doing the soul. thing, which I now have, I think, on pretty much all of the cameras on our place. We have gone so long now without touching or being near some of these cameras that I'm

coming to think that I have two, maybe three-year-old bucks that have seen that camera from the day they were born. I'm not messing around here. And they just simply don't have that adverse reaction that like when also a three-year-old walks by it the first time and he's just like, you know, locks on the brakes and gives you the stare down and you don't see him again. Like these bucks are just like, it's just part of their normal thing.

And they don't smell like Yonis anymore. And they definitely don't smell like me anymore. The Kieln hoodie is also on sale this week. That's probably like my most used base layer. On the website, it has, I think, 1,200 reviews. It's like our most reviewed thing. 4.84 stars.

So not only do I love it, but everyone who's purchased one. This would be a good trivia question. What was the Kieln? hoodie called before it's called the kiln hoodie Klamath No origin that was a fleece one Midway

Oh I have some of the LJs What was that called? I'm not going to be a memory either right now The kiln name I would say that that piece while you're thinking I would say that piece is what put first light on the map Yeah I guided multiple hunters

That would be wearing a wool hoodie And I'd be like what's that This is long before I even knew about first light Oh this is this first light I still have one of the original They were like I live in it What's it called? Oh, God.

Can I irritate me? Yeah. Phil, can you Google it for us while we're talking? You don't know the answer? You don't know the answer? No, I said it would be a good trivia question. I didn't say I knew the answer. Again, White Tama.

Chama. Was it the Chama? Yeah, you're right. The Chama. Good work. Way to go, Brody. One point. Steel trap memory.

Which is why it makes Brody a real trivia contender. White's a week, again, happening. right now, firstlight.com, biggest sale of the year on our best whitetel-specific products. No I-F-A-Q or housekeeping today other than this fly

buzz around us all during the podcast too. It's awful. It is. It'll be my bonus point to the player who kills it. Phil's been killing some in the studio. Too many of them. Just get some fly tape in here, Phil.

Yeah, that'd be good. Yeah, it might be good for acoustics as well. Phil, are you ready? Yeah, let's do it. The Jennifer Index today is a four. So our winner should get eight correct answers. Bronson, if you don't know, usually it's the Shelby Index, who is Spencer's wife. She plays before we all play, and she gets a score.

Usually double her score is what the winner will get. I ran my questions by my wife this morning. She got four right. And after going to the Madison Tailgate Tour and the Milwaukee Store opening, a lot of folks now treat it as their barometer. That's who they're competing against each week. Oh, it's against Shelby. Or the Jennifer Index or whatever the index is that week.

So it now serves that purpose more than predicting the outcome. It made me feel good that she got for it. Because I'm like, it can't be that hard. There we go. Even though definitely a couple, she just pulled out of her rear end. But all good. With that, we're on to the game of trivia. Play the drop, Phil.

Look, I need to know what I stand to win. everything. How's that? Just tend to win everything. Game on, suckers. The first question is, as always, multiple choice. It is also one of the listener submitted questions this week, and it was sent in by Kevin Robinson of Missoula, Montana. Go cats!

Go gris. For sending this great question, Kevin is going to get a board game signed by the crew. If you want a chance to win the listener question of the week, then send your question to trivia at the meat eater.com. The question is, what antlerd, big game species, shares the same Popen Young minimum entry score of 125 inches with typical white-tailed deer? Is it? Coos deer? Chiris Moose, Blacktail Deer, or Dahl Sheep? This is a great question.

Yeah, it is. Good job, Kevin. Kevin had as a non-multiful choice, which I thought was way too hard. That was good hosting by you, Yanni. Again, the question is, what antlered big game species shares the same Pupin Young minimum entry score of 125 inches with typical white-tailed deer? Is it Coos Deer? Shyrus, Blacktail Deer, or

Dahl Sheep? P&Y. Did you go P&Y, Yanni? I think it will. You know, I'm going to have you measure it. Yeah, happy to break out the stretchy tape for you. I appreciate it. Does everybody have an answer?

Yeah. But you don't want tape that stretches, then it would score smaller. Yeah, that's right. Well, yeah, it's like, you measure it, and then the, usually a string or cable, and then you get the stretchy tape out. There you go. Round up. Okay, go ahead and reveal your answers.

Ronson says, Blacktail, Deer, Sam, Blacktail, Deer, Spencer, Chiris Moose, Corey, dolls, sheep, Seth, hard to read your name there, buddy, Shiris, and Brody, Shiris, we have some correct answers. It is Shiris Moose. Nice. Good job, fellas. The Pope and Young minimum for typical coos is 70 inches, typical black tilled deer is 75 inches, and dull sheep is 120 inches. Oh, see, that's where I was off. Shireis Muson habit parts of southern B.C. in Alberta and Canada and mountainous regions of Washington, Idaho, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, and Colorado in the U.S. The world record archery, Shires, is 192 inches and was killed in Colorado.

Has anybody in the room gone through the process? of submitting an animal to Pope and Young? Nope. No. I haven't either. So I think maybe with that bowl of mine, we should do that. And we'll have a little experience with it. If you had asked me before right now what the Pope and Young minimum score for a Chiris Moose is, I don't think I would have been within 40 inches. No, me neither. I'd have been way higher. They don't have great big giant scores. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Like, they score them weird. They do. All right, on to question two. The next question falls into our conservation vertical. In forestry, what does the acronym D.B.H. stand for. A little bone here from my buddy Seth. I know that Dr. Strickland's going to have this one right as well. The question again is, in forestry, what does the acronym D.B.H. stand for. Like I said,

Bones here for Seth and Bronson. Their boards are down. Everybody else is thinking. T.H. Ask me about BBD, and I could tell you all day. Big bowl down? Big bear down. Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

Once again, the question is in forestry, what does the acronym D-B-H stand for? This is one that Jennifer got correct, which is not going to help anybody. She's an ecologist. She's an ecologist. Do you have this right, Brody? Good. Everybody have a question or an answer that's going to have an answer. Questions for sure.

Yanni, have you seen Breaking Bad? Yes. This is like the fly episode of Breaking Bad now in here. Oh, I don't remember that episode. I didn't see. It got too long for me. Oh, it only got better though, bud. Well, that may be, but when they can't wrap it up, I don't like it.

The fly episode was controversial. It was the lowest rated episode of the highest rated season. Oh, it's a good episode. Yeah, no, I liked it. I don't have to go back and watch it. Sam? Oh, give me a second. You about done writing?

You drawing pictures? Look through that deer management thing, see if you can find it in there. There might be a tip in there. I took a couple extra minutes to read that. Okay, go ahead and reveal your answers. Bronson says, diameter, breast height, Sam, density by 100, Spencer, dead buck habitat, Corey, dig, big holes, Seth, diameter at breast height, Brody, deer, and bear habitat. The correct answer is diameter at breast height. Wow.

According to the book, managing oak forests in the eastern United States, foresters commonly evaluate the diameter of a tree at a standard height above ground to ensure consistency because trees have more swelling as you get closer to the ground and measurement. there would result in a greater diameter than if you measured two, four, or six feet above ground. So years ago, this standard was developed at four and a half feet above ground. At this height, most of the swell is gone, and it is a convenient height for most adults. In fact, because 4.5 feet above ground approximates breast height, the measure has come to be known as diameter at breast height or DBH. Ronson, tell us why DBH is important to a white-tailed deer hunter. In terms of managing your forest and in terms of monetizing the sale of your trees, you've got to keep track of what is the DBH and the basal area and the inventory and the board feed, et cetera, et cetera, so you can figure out either when to thin that stand for management or the final harvest.

So that is the way, that would be the equivalent of Boone and Crockett score. For me and a deer, DBHs is to a forester. I feel like when I jumped into that whole habitat management thing three, four years ago, that was like one of the first things where I was like, what? And then Basel area kind of falls on the heels of that. And that took a lot longer to understand than diameter of breast height. But either way, I feel like it's one of the first things that you kind of, you have to learn when you're looking at managing the forest.

On to question number, somehow my numbers went away. I think it's three. Hope you guys like this one. How many waypoint icons that specifically use the term whitetail does Anex have? Nice. Huh? Great question. I'll repeat the question.

How many waypoint icons that specifically use the term white tail does Anex have? What I love about it is that everybody here has used icons that say this no haven't you come on never once no it's been a minute

since I've really thought about white tails when I'm looking at Onyx but how many Corey sees a white tail he's like Mark this is the wrong place to be I grew up hunting them but it's been a minute I was telling

Bronson before we got started that when I first heard that bull bugle on Tuesday I was like oh, he's in the white-tail meadow. Because there's this one meadow that just always has, sometimes it's a doe, sometimes it's a buck, but there's always a white-tail deer in this spot,

but today there was a bull. Or that day, there was a nice six-point bowl. I aspire to be as organized as some folks on On-X where I would have a white-tail icon for something, but it's mostly X's. A lot of them are red. My favorite icon to lay down is when I do, whether it's a white-tail icon

or an elk icon and then I color them black and it has someone's initials and the date and that serves as where the spot of where that animal died. My favorite icon is green because that's what I do

when I have hunting permission on a place. Green needs go. If I have a lot of green, it's looking up for me. Nice. I like it. All right. Does everybody have an answer written down? It should be a number.

Again, how many waitpoint icons that specifically use term white tail does onyx have go ahead and reveal your answers Bronson 8 Sam 2 Spencer 1 Cory 2 Seth 2 Brody 2 we have one correct answer

It is 1 Which is Buck white tail I thought maybe maybe a scrape or maybe dough Yeah but they don't have They don't use the term white tail In it

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Sam, you're not going to even write one down? thinking. Okay. Again, which cartridge has produced the most combined, typical and non-tipical white-tailed deer entries in the Boone and Crockett record books? You see how I hyphenated white-tailed deer?

Mm. I'm just, that's just for Pat Durkin. That's good. Good call. And a half-finger. Isn't he a... Is he big on that, too? Is he? I can't remember. I think he is. Hey. Wait, you...

You intentionally put the hyphen in that spot? It should be white hyphen tailed. Oh, then I messed up, space deer, you're right. How do you write it, Dr. Strickland? White hyphen tailed. Yeah, that's what I meant to do. Sorry, Pat. I like that.

It's just the honest version. We were talking earlier how it takes a strong human to say, I messed up. I'm wrong. Congrats to you on that. Everybody have an answer? I bet this cartridge just blows the other ones out of the water I would assume it's not close I'm guessing that's what I'm hoping to

it's very interesting flavor text here to come I'm excited Sam no idea come on we'll write a popular cartridge down okay go her an unpopular one go ahead and reveal your answers Ronson says 30 a 6, Sam 300, Spencer 30 out 6, Corey 30. 30.6,

Seth 30 30. 30. 30. The room did well. The correct answer is 30 aught 6. Do you have the top 5? Or something? I don't quite have top 5. I would guess number 2 is maybe like a 270.

Okay, so let me read the flavor text and then we can discuss. 30 out 6 has a total 555. entries. Second place is the 12-gauge shotgun with 536, and now I know it's not technically a cartridge, but I thought it was worth mentioning as method of take. The actual second-place cartridge is the 270.

Even more interestingly, I've found that if you add up all of the different draw weights of compounds and include longbows and recurts, because for some reason, they like to break it out by like 45 to 55, 55 to 75 to 7. and 70 up or whatever if you add all of those up that accounts for 1,420 entries so like people are hammering

Boone and Crockets with their bows right that's also not including the 858 entries from crossbows which I found which I found interesting so like both of those beat the 30 out 6th because they're hunting during the rut

in some states a lot of states I am still surprised at 12 gauge would be that high. Yeah, but I just think there's a lot of shotgun-only states, you know. If you're interested in messing around with that kind of information, I found this all using Boone and Crocket's Big Game Records Live weapon visualizer, which is a lot of fun to play around with.

I think you have to be a member, though, to use it. You do? Yeah. Yeah. Was that five, Phil? No, that was four. That was four. Okay.

Number five. What is the name? of the hardened fibrous tissue that replaces a white-tailed deer's upper incisor teeth the room

looks shocked wait oh I guess I can read it what is the name of the hardened fibrous tissue that replaces a white-tailed deer's upper incisor teeth

Bronson doesn't have an answer yet either so that makes me feel better about not knowing it so I like to the deer doesn't have teeth there but in place of those teeth there is a tissue

there. We've all carved it off probably preparing our skulls for boiling and it has a name. This might be the hardest one. Number six is going to be a softball. Okay. Don't get too down on yourself. All right. We're ready. Dr. Strickland, do you feel like at times in your life or your career you have known the name of this

fibrous tissue? No. Oh, really? No, I don't. Oh. Okay. I imagine it's the same on an elk. It's a little bit of a trick question, though.

You think? Yeah. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Big trouble in little China. How would it be the same on an elk? they have the same thing then what's an ivory well those would be like canines or tusks

but i'm talking like like these teeth here up fronters yeah up fronters like they don't have those teeth gotcha instead there's a hardened fibrous tissue surprisingly simple, but... Sweet. You got it, Corey? I think so, actually. After that last little hid bit.

Rody's still thinking. I gotta say, so when you host a trivia episode, I usually have like a list of running questions. And then Spencer lets me in on this document that has every question that's ever been asked in media trivia. And if you're lucky,

only like one or two of your questions have already been asked. I had four that hit me yesterday at like 5 p.m. I'm like, collie. Give me an example. Piebald had been used. I'd have to look at the other ones.

But yeah. It's a bummer. This is a replacement one that you were. You know, maybe. There you go. All right. Go ahead and reveal your answers. Bronson says cartilage, Sam, Buckton.

Tooth. That's a good one. Spencer, fang tissue, Corey, calcium. Seth, without an answer, and Brody says gums. That's a zero percenter today. The answer is dental pad. Oh, yeah. The dental pad acts as a cutting board for the lower incisors to cut against. The hard rubbery pad helps them efficiently gather large quantities of plant matter by pinching it between the pad and their bottom teeth. The clip food then moves to the molars where it is ground into finer particles. for digestion. Remember that for zero percent or an upcoming one. Dental pad. Broughton, what do you think of a dental pad? Was that somewhere in your brain? I have heard that many, many, many years ago. Well, when I knew Bronson was coming on,

I'm like, I got to have a couple hard ones. All right, since that was question five, it's time for a scoreboard update, Phil. At halftime, Sam James is not currently on the board yet, zero points. Corey Kalkins has one point. I'll tie it up with two are Brody Seth and our guest, Bronson, Strickland. And in first place, our host, Spencer Newhart with three points.

You're surprised. Anybody's game. Anybody's game. Sam, I think you're still in it, big time. All right. On to question number six. The fish, fillets, sweet meat, breakfast loins, weenie loins, and mud veins are all nicknames for what chunk of meat in a deer? Is this an Upper Midwest thing?

Come on, I know you've heard of one of those nicknames. Again, the question is, the fish, fillets, sweet meat, breakfast loins, weenie loins, and mudvains are all nicknames for what chunk of meat in a deer. I like this. I haven't heard. We used the fish a lot. Really? Do you use that term?

Yep. I think that's one of the more popular ones. Hmm. The fish. The fish. Ask him to use it in a sentence. No. I think that would reveal the answer.

Sweet meat. Looks like half of the room is feeling pretty confident. Yeah, it's definitely upper Midwest, northeast thing. Mm-hmm. Did you get him? No, he did not. Yanni took a swipe at the fly. Steve's

salt shotgun. If we had that salt gun. The assault rifle. Okay, does anybody need more time? Everybody have an answer? All right. Reveal your answers. Bronson, tenderloins,

Sam, tenderloins, Spencer, tenderloins, tenderloins, the correct answer is tenderloins. This is the deer's equivalent to filet mignon. The muscle is used very little by deer, making it extremely tender. I searched for a while, as much time as I could give it.

Like, what does that muscle do? Do you know, Ronson? Like, what it, it doesn't do much. We know that. But what is its purpose? Hip throats. Sorry. Wouldn't it be late, early November, hip thrusting would be my answer.

Well, you know, jokingly, I have heard that multiple times. That the only time they use that muscle is when they get up on their hind feet. I don't know. Maybe nothing, and that's why it's so small. It's being phased out. You're right. You're right. Maybe the dows are even tender because they use them.

They don't have to get on their back legs. The mud veins, I've only heard that one time, but I had an elk-cunning client who was lucky enough to draw one of Michigan's elk tags, kills a bull, and the guide is gutting it. And he goes, hey, what do you want me to do with the mud veins? Maybe they're called mudvains because they use that muscle when they're taking a poop. Well, maybe. Well, but this guide's answer was close to the guts.

He's like, oh, what are the mud veins? He's like, oh, these things right here, like, they taste like mud. They're close to the guts. They're no good. Whoa. I take them out and I feed them to my dog. I've heard people talk about it that way before. Well, yeah, but this client that I was guiding was like, yeah, I don't think so.

Go ahead and put those in my cooler. You're not taking my mud veins. All right. Next question is also a listener submitted question. It was submitted by Morgan. Burks of West Virginia, and for sending this great question, Morgan is going to get a board game signed by the crew, and if you want a chance to win the listener question of the week, or maybe there's two that week, then send your question to trivia at themeatheater.com.

The question is, what state has the highest number of Boone and Crockett entries for Whitetail Deer? Ooh, this is a fun one. Now, Bronson, you do some work with Boone and Crocett. Crockett, correct? Uh-huh. I'm a professional member. Okay.

Being a professional member, do you feel like these Boone and Crockett questions are, like, is it helping you? I'm at no advantage. No advantage. No advantage. No. There's a few, yeah. Okay.

Not like us amateur members. Again, the question is, what state has the highest number of Boone and Crockett entries for Whitetail Deer? As of when? Uh, at like what? By p.m. yesterday. Yesterday, yeah. Because I feel like there could have been some changes over time.

Oh, Seth has destroyed the fly. He now has fly guts on his hat. Well done, Seth. We're getting sick of that thing. We could have used you here like three hours ago. Speaking of hats. I got one of those camflaged wired to hunt hats. It's got a little rope on it, just like that one.

It's got a little eight point running across it. I heard it's on sale. It's on sale, but it's also become my first and ever lucky hunting hat. I've never had one, and it just happened to be that I killed a caribou and a bull wearing that hat. And usually, I don't like going into the woods with just a regular ball cap. I feel like I get sweaty, and I'd much rather have something that's a little more techy that dries faster. But I walked in the woods wearing that hat. killed a bull.

Good. So. It's the most popular hat in our office, so it might be a few people's lucky hunting hat soon. You have to let me get a lick of that hat. Rub off some of that. Good luck. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's in the truck.

Yeah, you pervert, you would. You ready, Brody? All right, reveal your answers. Bronson, Wisconsin, Sam, Nebraska, Spencer, Wisconsin. The rest of the state says, Wisconsin, you are correct. Wisconsin comes in up top with 1,822 entries. Can we guess the others? Do you have the rest of? I have the next four.

Texas, Pennsylvania. No, Pennsylvania is not on there. Michigan. Iowa. They just kill so many deer. No. Illinois, Ohio, Illinois, Kansas. Ohio.

Illinois is second, sorry, Illinois is second with 1,445. Minnesota. Followed by Iowa at 1,330, Minnesota, 1,194, and rounding out the top five is Ohio with 1,049. Yeah, I probably would have put Iowa as number one. I think if I would have been asked that question. But as we've talked before with you, Spencer, you feel like there's a bias there because you feel like Wisconsinites are just more into the whole. Boone and Crockett process in the books. And so they just submit more deer to Boone and Crochet.

That and I think Wisconsin kills way more deer than Iowa. Yeah. You can also go kill two bucks there every year. Whereas Iowa, it's, you know, takes the average show. And you got to draw Iowa and all that. Four years to draw or whatever. And numbers wise, they have a bigger, dear population.

Yeah. So they're going to produce more Boone and Crockets. More Boone and Crockets. There we go. This is great having Bronson here. I hope we can keep around for a whole week. content okay next question we're still we're hanging out in the uh record book category in what state were the world record archery typical and non-typical white tail bucks killed

world record what it's one state okay in what state were the world record archery typical and non-typical bucks killed but currently the current world record they are current world records unless i did my research wrong and misread something i believe that both of them are from this state Again, the question... Have you hunted this state? That could give away. That'd be a little too much info. The question is... Have I hunted this?

In what state were the world record archery, typical and non-typical bucks killed? Got an answer, Seth? Did we have one of these people on the podcast? Oh, come on now. Sim it down. Just curious. Don't answer that

I can't answer it I don't think it's going to help You can't answer it You can't answer but you're not going to Do you want me to? No I'd say don't Okay Let's just wait just a little bit

Because if Bronson hasn't listened to that episode They'll give the rest of you an unfair advantage Okay do you guys need more time We're ready to go Everybody's got Wrote written down. Reveal your answers. Bronson, Kansas, Sam, Iowa, Spencer, Illinois, Corey, Indiana, Seth, Kansas, Brody, Kansas.

We have, again, one correct answer. It is Illinois. I saw Indiana and like that one. I thought it was going to be Indiana. Me too. Mel Johnson killed the world record typical in 1965 with the Tradbo. And Luke Brewster killed the world record non-typical in 2018. I believe it was with a compound.

Johnson's typical scores 204 and 4 eighths. Brewster's non-typical scores 327.7.8s. Johnson killed his on October 29th and Brewster on November 2nd, proving that late October and early November are great time frames to be in the woods if you're looking for a monster buck. I interviewed Luke when he killed that buck and wrote about it on our website. So you could go find something on the meat eater.com. And you got that question, right?

Yes. I was at a big advantage there I remember Luke Brewster's buck Yeah, I found it great That the guy killed it with a trad bow Well, what year was it? 65 Oh, come on

I know, but there was probably A couple wheeled bows around Sure, sure But I don't think it's that unusual He wasn't a 30-30 though He was also wearing a flannel shirt No camo Probably

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whitetail deer in? Hmm. I didn't hyphenate it this time. How many states? It's a lot of them. Yes, it is a lot of them. You might think about counting the ones that you can't hunt them in to get your answer. I want to say that.

Hmm. It's white tail including cows. Yes. Like the pronunciation, Johnson. Again, the question is, how many states can you legally hunt white-tail deer in? A lot of thinking going on in here. It's very warm in this room when we get late in the game. Brody's got an answer

Ronson's writing one down I think everybody's got something written down swinging for the fences on this one All right fellas This is question nine Yannis What? It is Well we could

Let's do our score update Before you reveal the answer We'll do it after nine I guess There we go Sorry again when I copy and paste That something went wrong with the formatting Go ahead and reveal your answers Ronson 45

Sam 43 Spencer 45 Corey 49 Seth 47 and Brody 49 Spencer and Bronson got it correct I thought it could be a trick like you can legally kill them in Alaska despite them not living there. That's what I was thinking

like if they're there you can shoot them Yeah, maybe I should have phrased it differently But you got it the way I was thinking through it Yeah The ones you cannot hunt White Tled deer in are Alaska, Hawaii, Nevada California and Utah A.I. I actually try to tell me that Arizona didn't either, but we all know it's not true because Arizona's packed with cows deer, which are a white bear. What were the states you can't again? Alaska, Hawaii, Nevada, California, and Utah.

I wrote down Oregon, but they must have a season for their Columbia white tail. Yeah, you can't have them in Utah? Not that I saw. You can kill them in the northern part of the state. I looked at doing it there once because they have some white tail habitat. But do they have a white tail season or a white tail tag? I don't know. My guess is no, it's just deer. And I remember when I was looking into it,

it was like once every few years, somebody will kill one, like right on the Utah border. And there's no Colombian white tail in California? I don't think so. I think you can hunt in the border. The only place I could find Colombian white tail was, uh,

no, uh, Washington. Oregon. Yeah. Yeah, I'm only seeing a mule deer season. Can we move on or do we make adjustments? Yeah, we'll all just get that one correct. I think the game would be more interesting if I got it wrong,

which I think I probably did, because I think Brody is right about Utah not being one of them. Oh, so you think it's 46? I think so. That means everybody got it wrong then. Yeah, because nobody had 46, right? Well, I mean, you should look it up. See.

is it legal to kill white tails in Utah I'm sure Bill are you on it well I mean yeah it's what I just I just looked up and so far I'm only seeing mule deer for having like an archery and rifle season general I'm not I specifically searched for white tail as well and the first thing that came up is mule deer but I'm not haven't dug deep at all so going to the deep AI mode do uh do your scoreboard update

and the correct answer review and I will try to get an answer in the meantime let's do it well if there are no revisions to the score spencer does indeed win the game because he cannot be caught by the second place player who is our guest bronson with five points spencer has seven and then behind them are brodie and seth with four cori with three and sam with one bronson excellent showing well thank you yes it is legal to kill white tail in utah but only if you obtain the proper hunting license and permit all right so technically Was that an AI answer? Well, I'm looking at some more stuff. Yeah, and they're always right. Yeah. Okay, for a correct question.

Oh, maybe not. Oh, I don't know. You'd have to dig deeper. Correct question review. Question one with Shire's Moose. Two, diameter at breast height, three, one, four, 30-0.6, Springfield. Five, dental pad. Six, the inner loins or tenderloins.

Seven, Wisconsin, eight, 45. Are you sure? Am I just doing my math round? I'd do four twice. Again, this numbering thing is really messing me out. You had ten questions, Janus. I didn't, you know, I made sure to count them. We've done nine questions.

I don't know. Thank you. Here's a forum from 2018. Oh, I missed Illinois for nine. A forum for 2018 that's not necessarily. fairly accurate that are saying white tails are protected in Utah so I don't know if that is legit

or not okay well it's not going to change the score in 14 today because you and Bronson had the same answers so it would just deduct one from each of you guys whoops but it would make it a real real battle for second

I guess if Bronson was down to four let's bring them back down there we go let's go on to quick Question 10. Is there a chance? No, no chance for a tiebreaker. Nope.

Using USDA calculations, order these meats and caloric density from highest to lowest. Lean ground beef, skin on pheasant, venison, and catfish fillets. Lean ground beef.

I got this information by literally going to their website and just punching in. calories, one pound, and then the name of the meat. They add it as venison, not broken out by species, huh? Nope. High is the lowest. Yep.

Which one has the most calories down to the least? Dumb question. Is lean ground beef, like relatively lean, the proportion of fat? in it is less or zero fat ground beef? I think lean's like anything like 90 and... Well, they have one that's called 90% lean. Yeah, I don't think they can call it lean unless it's a certain percentage. But I don't know what that percentage is.

Either way. Yeah. It's different than my answer. The question is, using USDA calculations, order these meats and caloric density from highest to lowest. Lean ground beef, skin on pheasant, venison, and catfish fillets. Looks like the USDA defines lean as being at least 90. Okay.

I'm just trying to hit that Jennifer index. Are you close? I'm at three. Oh, answers? Oh, shit, different than yours. Oh, I really disagree. Well, I don't think I disagree. I mean, just going by personal preference here.

Maybe. Everybody have an answer? Oh, man. Where'd these catfish come from? I got a buggy boys That's a valid question I mean Were they farm raised?

Yeah well Seth's pond It is a valid question What's eating on Yeah Again this is what the USDA Said for a pound of Catfish fillets

If they're Mississippi Delta farm raised Aquaculture There'll be a lot of fat In the fish Yeah but I feel like Those flatheads That we caught on the Missouri

They had a lot of fat, too. Oh, I was operating as though this was a channel catfish. Oh. Yeah, that's the thing is there's a lot of non-specificity in these. I was thinking of the. Oh, you were picturing a flat-heads? Okay, I was picturing a channel. I bet you that's what they're going on.

You guys all ready? To reveal your answers, please, Bronzen says, ground beef, peasant, peasant, catfish, venison, Sam, beef, pheasant, venison, catfish, spencer, beef, venison, pheasant catfish Cory pheasant venison catfish

beef venisoned peasant brodie pheasant catfish lean ground beef venison okay I think one person got it one person right and I think that that's Bronson no it was Sam oh it's Sam

oh yeah venison is last oh man no no no no Bronson got it I was okay Janice the formatting of this document is a nightmare Hey, look who it is. Hey.

Hey, Stephen Ronella. Ask him. Steve, which of those has the most calories? You don't know. And for a pound. Slice of pizza. Who has the most calories? I would say beef.

Who has the least? Oh, what's the question? Why don't you read the answer and whoever has it will raise their hand? How's that? The correct order is lean ground beef, skin on pheasant, catfish venison. Okay. So Bronson did get that one. Yes.

Okay. For a pound of meat, lean ground beef has 1,250 calories. Skin on pheasant has 672. Catfish filets have 653, and venison has a mere 544 calories. Which is why we're always adding fat to our ground meat and cooking our steaks and butter. So that makes Spencer our winner. Probably what? Spencer wins every time I host

I don't know how that happens Well you guess hosts the most So that makes a difference We must just share the same brain, Yanni I guess so I guess so He's seen all these questions before Access to documents

No he had And he interviewed the guy Well these were original questions Yeah but you said you went through The pool of questions that Spencer has That's a sheet that has every question From the board games That's ever been used

Oh And if my question comes up there I can't use it. Oh, I smelled collusion, too. For that reason. Yeah, I mean, come on. Um, okay, thank you all for playing. Remember again, it's White Sail Week. Go check out the great sales. Great stuff we have at the meter.com for Slight.com. Anything else to add, Spencer, after your great win here? I don't have to buy a yearly membership anymore now to NDA. Way to go. No, he's not. What do you want? What do you want? Steve? I was curious from a listener perspective. People appreciate your hosting. Oh, I don't know. Let's ask Spencer.

We'll find out. They like some variety. Read the comments. Read the comments. I will. So thank you all for playing and listening along at home. We'll see you next week on Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. Thank you.

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