The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 779: Canadian Moose, Case Knives, and Old Rifles | MeatEater Radio Live!

Episode Date: October 17, 2025

Hosts Brent Reaves, Seth Morris, and Cory Calkins interview Craig MacCarthy of North Mountain Adventures about the nitty-gritty of a fly-in moose hunt, have a round of MeatEater Show and Tell, go Craigslisting for outdoor gear, and chat with John Pantuso and Tom Taylor of Case Knives. Watch the live stream on the MeatEater Podcast Network YouTube channel. Subscribe to The MeatEater Podcast Network MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTubeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to Meat Eater Radio Live. It's 11 a.m. Mountain Time. That's 12 p.m. for our friends in Brent, Alabama. Or as my mama slide would say, Brent, Alabama. It's Thursday, October the 16th, 20, 25, and we're live from the Meat Eater headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. I'm your host, Brent Reeves, and I'm joined today by Meat Eaters Magnum P.I. Seth, Sethamphetamine Morris and Corey balsamic vinegar caucus.

That's right, balsamic. I haven't heard that one before. No, that's new. Well, I just, you kind of led me into that while ago when you were talking about that, that new sauce that you had for. And since we're talking about it, what were the ingredients for Corey's, said baslamic vinegar a little reduced balsamic vinegar and some huckleberries and huckleberries reduce that down put it on steak that sounds good nice job nice job we have got some good stuff coming our way this today i want to hear about what you guys have been doing recently and i'm probably

out of tune on what comes next this is your show man this is our show and we're live yeah it's hunting season this place is like a ghost town except for us the dedicated it's just me Phil Corey and Seth running this whole thing today yeah they can thank us

for radio life yeah I had to start the fire in here this morning yeah I said they could thank us for just keeping the entire company afloat yeah you know yeah frankly

you're right yeah I legit turn the lights on this morning in this place but that's good this is the time where we're all busy and everybody's out getting content

that we'll be able to enjoy later the content. Me, Dieter's season 13, this Monday. Monday. Yep, this coming Monday. October the 20th, 6 p.m. Mountain Standard Time. New episodes that says here will be every Monday for the next seven weeks. That's right.

Seth, you were involved in all of that, just about. I was, yeah, I was there for all of them except the spear fishing one. I wasn't there for that one. You have a most memorable event from any of it. of the shows that's coming up? Trying to think. You know, one of the cooler episodes I thought

was the Alaska bear hunt. Just that backcountry stuff up there in interior Alaska. Right. Is so cool. I just love that country. Which, do you know what order that'll be? Which one that'll be?

Do you have any idea? I don't know. I do know. I believe it'll be episode four. Episode four. Four weeks from this Monday. Okay. Yeah.

A lot of good stuff. Africa. Alaska. Where else? Africa, Alaska, Texas. Turkey hunting down there with Luke Combs. Africa. Montana muzzleloader hunt.

Oh, yeah. If you watch the last muzzleloader hunt that Steve did, you'll have to watch that. this one to see if there's any redemption. Ah. A little teaser. Or see if the same stuff happened. Who knows?

A lot can go wrong with those old school muzzleloaders. So Meat Eater Season 13 is coming out this Monday. It'll be and it'll go for seven weeks every Monday, a new episode. And Meat Eater Sheds is coming out or is out right now. I think the last episode has been out. The Jeff Foxworthy episode, which has been a hit. But it has been really popular. Checked out on the Meat Eater YouTube channel.

Yeah, you know, I've got my own shed from the folks at Stormore. And I'm putting together a studio, a podcast studio that I'm going to be recording my stuff out of. Right now I'm recording in a bedroom upstairs in my house. And these folks were kind enough to work with us and be a partner with Meat Eater. Now I've got a full-fledged studio out in the backyard and are as a little. Lexus calls it, Brent's house, where I'll be staying, where all my toys will be. Hey. And I'll be out there, but I'm excited about working with those folks.

As a matter of fact, they issued or posted on their Instagram page today, a video of them delivering that thing, which was an event all in itself. That's nice. Yeah, it was pretty cool. Cool. So they can see that on, I think, my Instagram, but the Storemore Instagram, too. It's S-T-O-R-M-R, I think, buildings, but it's. Yeah, they look like some. high quality little storage units man uh the electrician got actually wrote on the fuse box

when they hooked electricity up brent's house that that's how well they labeled that that connection there so it's nice very nice uh Tony Peterson mm-hmm he's got a one is he's got a show is it dropping today it just dropped five minutes ago on the media your YouTube channel yeah white tail hunting Iowa oh so an emotional roller coaster really yeah you should check that out for the Deer and for Tony. Oh, boy, for Tony mostly. The deer really didn't know what was going on. Okay.

We've got, what else we got going? Oh, the Meat Eater live tour this Christmas that they say it's a southern tour. I say they are dipping their toes in the south. It's like the shallow south. Yeah, the shallow south. But it's a move in the right direction and who knows where the next will be. We're going to be in like five different places or six. Birmingham, Alabama, we'll be there on December the 17th.

Nashville will be the next day on the 18th, Memphis, the next day on the 20th, Fayetteville, Arkansas, which is sold out on the 20th. And then Dallas and Austin on the 21 and 21st and Austin being the final show there. But it is, I'm looking forward to it. It's going to be fun. It's going to be me, Steve, Yanni, Dr. Randall and Claibow. Fun. And should be.

should be a fun time. I'm looking forward to getting out and seeing folks. Yeah, well, Seth and I will make sure the lights are on. And Phil, make sure the lights are on. We've got it. We'll be here. Tour in the south. So, hunting season. Corey,

tell me a hunting story. Man, this fall, this fall, we're just about to wrap up Montana's archery season. And it's been a grind for me. At least I just haven't been able to pick my ideal weather. I'm just, you Don't get to pick your weather, as they say, and gone out 11 days now, and it's just either been raining or sleeting,

and I just haven't been able to get into too many fired up elk. I say that because I've been pretty spoiled the last couple of years, actually having some amazing encounters on public land. But this year's just been a little bit tougher, which just makes me appreciate bow hunting and the grind of it all. And luckily, rifle season opens up a week from Saturday. So I can't wait to watch one fall over at 200 yards. There you go. The number of giant bowls that I've had under 100 yards that I just can't do anything about. No, any close encounters getting them called in closer? They're just, they're just not leaving those cows. No, I had a few, certainly, close encounters, just not.

I have yet to draw my bow back. Did you say where that was that? Because I can't remember if you told me where that was that. By that tree under the sagebrush. The brown tree? Yeah. Okay. All right.

Well, I'll be looking for that. It's been good, though, but I'm excited about rifle season. What about you said? Uh, I actually haven't hunted once. So far. Ooh. Really? Did you quit?

No, I didn't quit. I, I, my fall kind of got all messed up. I had a lot of plans to, uh, do some, a lot of fall fishing this year. Um, so I wasn't, you know, doing any practice at all with the, with the old bow. And then some stuff, one thing led to another stuff happened with the boat, couldn't use the boat. Still can't use the boat. Um, so I ended up getting out on a boat. buddies boat though we just me me and some buddies did a uh not saw some pictures yeah we did a uh

a big fall fishing trip to fort peck where's that central montana okay yeah um went out there caught a bunch of small mouth um some nice ones the biggest one was six pounds um nice um yeah but no it was it was fun just fall fishing right you know for anything is awesome but false mollies is one of my favorites well everybody that killed a moose this year raise your hand that's right it was me nice incredible adventure in northern manitoba with some friends of mine that we're going to talk to in a minute but when uh a little lead into it over a year ago Garrett at garret long asked my boss asked me he said what's what's your dream hunt and I just spit out that I like to kill a moose.

in Canada. And he said, okay, find an outfitter because you got to have an outfitter in Canada. And I'm like, sir. He said, yeah, let's start working on it. So a year later, it all come to fruition. And we went to me and Dave Gardner, a cameraman for me to eat or contractor, a good friend of mine that I've been hunting with for probably five years now on different projects. We go up there and it was from the time we left the bank.

on that float plane to we got back it was just one incredible adventure after another and i think mr taylor we want to pull up pictures do we have some pictures we do have some pictures we do have some pictures yeah nice look at that handsome rascal yeah yeah and that moose that is a nice moose brent it was uh it's in it's just an incredible encounter had all come about i don't want to give it all away because it was just so so cool but I will anyway. He surprised us. Just slipped out in the river while we were waiting.

And 460 yard shot, that's a ham or its shoulder. I can't remember which that is. So you guys were, you were hunting out of cabins, like you're staying in cabins up there? We flew in on a float plane. Yep. And they dropped us off. And we had a cabin there. And the cabin is a plywood floor and plywood walls and a tarp over the, over the top.

because you can't have a permanent structure i think it has a roof a roof it's counted as a permanent structure there so so the craig and them built this thing uh earlier this year i think and uh or last year we'll ask him about it in a minute but we was flying there and then we were headquartered and hunted out of that thing out of a boat and we wound up killing that thing by boat like a mile and a half from where we were staying and put straight through the woods it was probably three quarters of a mile but it's just man it's wild country the northern lights were shining on us and it was just so were you guys caught going out and calling for him yeah every day yeah every day I killed that moose on the third day of third day I was there the second full day that we

hunted and then everything else I mean we had the biscuit and everything else was the gravy that we shot after that and it's, I'm really proud. I think it's going to be really good. It was fun from start to finish. What's the legal requirements for a bull moose up there? Is there, is that to be certain width? Brow tines, like Alaska's, you know, some units, you have to have like four brow tines. Yeah, you know, I don't know.

I wouldn't ask the man here in a minute because when he stepped out there, he said, that's a shooter and that's the last thing I remember. That's all you needed to hear. Yeah, that's all I needed to hear. Because that one picture that Craig put, I mean, that Phil put up there of the backstrap. Can you put that back up there? Yeah. Yeah, that is massive.

It's the size of a deer. That's one backstrap. Now, I brought all this, I'm bringing all this meat home. I brought, we dropped off everything at a meat processor, the meat station in Erick'sdale, Manitoba. And I, to get processed and Craig's going to bring that down to me later. But that is one backstrap. and I brought both backstraps home in each soft cooler. One of them weighed 49 pounds and the other one weighed 51.

I was talking to Alex Zimmer last night that runs the meat eater's store here in Bozeman, and he said that he cut up a antelope and had 64 pounds of meat. I thought, my gosh. Two backstrapes weighed almost twice as much as one antelope. Incredible. It's really, really good. And delicious, too, I imagine. Oh, man, we started eating on it.

We was gnawed on it that night. Nice. The night we killed and we ate it every night for supper. Then it just got better and better. Which brings me to the guy I want to talk to about it. Mr. Craig McCarthy. Craig is Craig. Are you there, buddy?

I'm there. I'm here. There he is. Craig and his wife, Melanie and their family run North Mountain Adventures. It's a guide service there in Manitoba. Is that southern Manitoba where you would be for the central Manitoba? Central Manitoba. And then his father has a concern, a guiding business for Moose up in the northern part.

And that's where, and Craig guides for him up there. And that's where we went up there. Craig, great to talk to you, my friend. You've been a friend of mine for going on Saturday with two years now, I guess. But we just had a wonderful trip up there. And I appreciate you coming out here today. I appreciate you inviting me. Tell us about the guiding life.

It's not easy, is it? Actually, it's probably the most fun I have all years when I'm guiding. uh yeah sometimes you got to be away from home but that's just part of the job um yeah it's something i've loved to do since i was since my parents started doing it when they i was probably around 10 12 years old helping out and it's just progressed from there and now it's a huge part of my life and my family's life uh Craig I got a question for you what what all like what hunts do you offer up there uh we do uh we do uh Black Bear and white-tailed deer out of our home.

And we started doing, I started guiding for Caribou up north, which is an addition this year. And yeah, then I guide for my parents and anybody else that needs help. Cool. Do any fishing trips up there too, or are you just hunting? You know what? We can. We have good walleye fishing and pike fishing, 10 minutes. away from here.

But that's usually we just offer our cabins and people come and stay and go fishing. If they need a nice shack or something, I have them here that they can use. And yeah, that sounds fun. Yeah, that's an adventure. See, the ice fishing thing, that's totally foreign to me. I bet. Yeah. No idea.

You don't get too many opportunities to do that down in Arkansas, do you? No, not many at all. And the water's clear where we were at up there. We caught some walleye. We caught some pike. that's right pike isn't it yeah and the pike up there i mean they're just like a what we call a jackfish at home but uh or gar and oh yeah up there man golly in that clear cold water they were so good we ate them uh Craig fillate them out took the bones out of them and we had those

one night with some with some moose and it was nice fantastic well surf the turf but you're not you're a second generation guide now now, following, you know, with your dad and your dad's still active. What about your kids, Hayden and Kirsten. He's got two kids that are like tier one rodeo kids right now. Nice. Wow. Will they be joining you think in the, in the guiding business?

I think it's probably pretty much a guarantee that Hayden's going to follow. He's an avid outdoorsman. um my daughter is starting to be um but she's heavy in the role with her mom when everybody comes out for cooking and bacon stuff and yeah bugging the guys yeah they're absolutely they're a fun family Craig that that cabin there is where is on Craig's where is his home place where he lives and that's where we were when I bear hunted with him when I met him last year and killed a big old 440 pound chocolate bear up there we were staying right there and man for bears they're just they're just there everywhere up there yanni i think yonnie filmed a filmed a bear hunt

up there with you this year is that right yes sir he shot a 389 pound black i believe on the third night of his hunt yeah that's that's fantastic yeah it's also not 440 pounds sorry yani And he also, y'all, y'all went on a caribou hunt with, with yonnie, too. Yeah, we just, uh, that was two weeks before you came up. Yeah. Yeah, Craig was, Craig was hunting up. They were in, now I'm, I'm going to pronounce this wrong, but it looks like none of it, is that right, Nunavit, how you pronounce it?

Yeah, we're in Manitoba on the Nunavit, close to the Nunavit border. Yeah, they were, they were up there. And then, so when I met. Craig and when I went up there at the end of September he'd been away from home was like 26 days at that point is that right yeah when I got home was 26 or 27 days dawn it's grind you clean up well buddy because uh you don't you didn't look as clean uh when I saw you do right now yeah I think at I think at like day 18 or 19 is when you quit carrying how you look yeah well it was a great adventure the the the dave captured some outstanding stuff i think it's going to be really good i think

the folks are going to enjoy that video or film whatever you want to call it it'll be a feature one next year so it's going to be a like a 45 minute deal so cool it'll be good but yonnie's yonnie's bear hunt yonnie's caribou hunt and my moose hunt will all be stuff that'll coming out next year when when it's time for it to come out there. So it was, it's incredible. Now, where we flew into, it was like two hours away from, there was like a two hour ride in there to where, to where we were camped. No roads. How are you getting all? What's the, tell me the logistics or described to the folks that that might not know the logistics about getting how hard it is to get just plywood in there. Because you got to fly it all in, right? Yeah, you bet.

We, obviously, otters are the main flights that we use because they can hold a lot of weight. So it depends on how far the camp is for how much fuel they need, but usually you're looking at, you can usually put about 3,500 pounds in a plane. So plywood's got to be flown in, 2x4s, 2x6 is the whole works, which you can never get on one flight. So it's multiple flights in to build one camp. So your turnaround is probably two to three hunts before you can, you know, start getting your money back. So it's just not the whole process is hard. It's everything about that is hard. But it's it's so worth the effort.

It was just an incredible to think about how hard. it is to get boats out there i mean because you got to fly boats in you got the boat motors gas and it's an ongoing back and forth of of of supplies back and forth you know and then you got you know the moose that the moose that we killed there all the meat that you got to take back on it you know and there's other camps with other moose so it's just man it's just a it's a big deal getting all that stuff in and out of there more even more so than i than i really how do you get boats in there are the otters on floats do you strap into the floats or how how does that work yeah yeah absolutely and as soon as you put a boat on um any size of boat you reduce

your weight by 25% instantly even though the boat doesn't weigh that much it's just the the wind and the drag yeah yeah um but we've yeah i flew every single boat in on pontoons one boat at a time and yeah you just plan well well you can hear me talk a lot about actually describe in detail that hunt my podcast last week was the first part and the one that's coming out tomorrow is the second part of that hunt and i think folks will enjoy it i hope so it was it was so much fun um i think the most rugged thing we did was sitting in that seat on that 30 year 40 year old airplane or whatever they they obviously put all the design thought into making that thing safe to get you from one spot to the other but how you got there if you were comfortable or not they didn't really care about it no sure yeah but hang on it was it was so much fun Craig I can't tell you how much I enjoyed it I mean I've talked to you nearly every day since then since we got back home um looking forward to you coming down in the

states uh later on uh in hunting season and and doing some hunting down here and hopefully I'll get to get to see you then yeah next week colorado yep nice it'll be fun thank you buddy i appreciate you being here and thank you for everything for for helping me i appreciate it thank you appreciate it thanks great thanks great man they're they're great folks that whole family i just absolutely love them hunting big country isn't for the faint of heart you got steep ground long distances and miles of crown land that aren't always easy to navigate. That's why Onex Hunt just got a serious upgrade for hunters in Canada. Now you can get nationwide coverage for less than the cost of a box of shells with major updates to crown land layers and new parcel boundaries

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On the CD. Me need a show and down. Spencer brought a rock. What else did you expect? I feel like you probably probably could put out an album by now. When this show ends, I'll put out a, I'll put out like either just a big medley of everything or like a playlist or something.

I'll post it on the Reddit. You guys can download it for those freaks that want to listen to that next year of time. I think there's a few of them. Yeah, man, that's, it's... I love all of you. It's more... All four of you. All six of us.

All right. Show and tell. Everybody, show and tell just like kindergarten for me, which was like three years, is, where you bring something to school or to show all your pals what uh something you want to show and talk about so corey your first in line all right then i was going to bring in some boring stuff like a giant elk shed or a mountline school but i decided instead i made a quick trip over to our office free table don't just tell the folks what the free table is well it's exactly what it sounds like uh if anybody's got some old gear that they're not using anymore or you know

sometimes there's some partnerships, hats, and hoodies that might end up on there. Sometimes people use that free table as just a place to get rid of shit that they don't want them. That's Yanni. Yonni's got all sorts of old clothes in there. I mean, if the local goodwill won't take it, Yonni puts it on the free table. If there's a pair of boots that's falling apart on the free table, they came from Yon. Well, speaking of old boots that are falling apart here, I got a pair of size 10 corker, wade fishing boots, which these are actually great. It's a felt soul, but it's removable.

put a rubber sole on there. Oh, nice. Which I might snag these. They're size 10, which is right up my alley. So I thought that was pretty cool. I just grabbed one of those. What else do we got? I got, uh, there's a couple DVDs up there. The first one I snagged was the, uh, Will Ferrell and John header. I probably pronounced that wrong. I think it's heater. Heater hit blades of glory. Uh, doesn't look like it had been open. Can we take a, can we take a poll in here who we think? Yeah, who put that there? Put that on there? I thought it would have been Phil, but he already said, no. My first choice would be,

Dr. Randall. That's what I was going to say. Oh, could be. I feel like Randall might hold on to something like that. I don't know if Randall's a big heater head. Heater header. Classic film, though. If anybody has a DVD player, I think that's probably the problem these days.

Primos, truth, Big Bowl's 16. There we go. That's what I'm talking about. Are you in this one? I think I'm in Big Bulls 17. And 18, but not this one. I had to look it up. Like the six degrees of Kevin Bacon or whatever that thing is, the elk shed that you had, that you thought about bringing in, is in one of these with you and Will Primos.

Yeah, it would have made a preview in Big Bull 17. Yeah, I actually tripped over that shed when I was calling it a bowl for Wilbur. Nice. It almost knocked me down. It was so big. There is, speaking of Primos, the Terminator elk bugle sitting up there. There's actually another bugle sitting up there right now. pack bugle but this is the Terminator if anybody ever remembers that is it a built-in reed it's got that blue reed to it oh yeah oh it's not great condition look out the window they're coming and a hoochie mama more primo stuff here the the the the cow call that ruined elk hunting um is there some is there some more to that the cow call that It's just, it's so simple to use.

It's kind of like the can, if you ever remember, the weed can. It's just so easy to use, and then everybody started squeaking on them. I think I have nine of these, no kidding, because I found so many of them in the woods. It's one of those that should fit in your pocket or obviously around your neck and somehow it falls out of your pocket. I got you. But I have so many of these just as a collection, it's pretty funny. Got some musket nipples. Oh.

You should see a doctor about that. I was looking for some musket nipples. real there you go it's on the free table an h-and-s strut striker yeah turkey call was there a half of what you need no no pot up there no pot on the free table that's got to be yonnie oh there's a uh rodeo rope rope rope and rope garret long yeah that's gotta be that's gotta be garret yeah i thought that was pretty cool there was there was a pile of them up there and there's just one left with the love of humanity that's and then this really cool wicker basket i don't know I bought one of these at World Market the other day.

It was $30. So I'm... What are you putting in that? I put a... It kind of looks like a turkey fan. Oh, yeah. You could decorate that for... You could put a turkey fan on either side.

Oh, look at that. That'd be great. Okay. You could use that as a decoy. For real. Yep. All right. Do some reaping.

Or weather vane. So yeah, if you want to get a job at Meteor HQ, you too could have access to all this killer gear. Yeah. It'll still be there when you get there. Yeah, because nobody wants it. Yeah. Yeah, some of this stuff's been up here. Under employment perks, it says access to the free table.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, it does. You never know, though. I swear, when Steve comes in and drops off a pile of stuff, it's a good day. Yeah, he was selling a swing set the other, giving away a swing set the other day that also included an in-reach. Right. Oh, I missed that part. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, it was the, you got to read the whole thing. Oh, I stopped at swing set. Yeah, he should have swapped those and led with the in reach, yeah. So that's what I brought in today. Nice job. Somehow, despite you grabbing something

out of the free table, still more effort put into it than Ryan Callahan usually does. I thought about sharing my phone case. Okay, Seth, what's you got? I got an old Winchester rifle. Where did you come by this unit? So this was, it's, yeah, sorry,

it's empty. I figured. Trust me, it's empty. I'll just stand back. This is a, it's a Winchester, model 55, ran a serial number built in 1931. Nice. This was my great-grandfather's rifle.

Really? And he, from what I hear, he bought this to feed his family and neighbors and friends during the depression. Was he hunting or robbing folks? He was hunting. Okay, got you. He shot, from what I don't have an exact number, but what I'm told is he shot a pile of deer with this. really um yeah functional can you shoot it yeah you can i haven't i haven't shot it yeah i just recently inherited this you got to kill a deer with it man yeah i would love to kill a deer with it

at some point it was your great grandfather great grandfather yep um and then when he passed away it got handed down to my great uncle okay and he had it for a while there's actually some of his old um hunting license pennsylvania hunting license is in here from the 80s that's cool oh man that's really nice that's a legacy item there yeah so it's pretty cool it's um chambered in it says 30 wcf which is 30 30 30 um when wcf is winchester center fire center fire so yeah that's my show and tell item that's a beaut i like it i'd like to uh take this up to southeast alaska and shoot a bear with it oh yeah yeah yeah now you're from Pennsylvania, right?

Yes. You got to go back and kill a deer there, too. Yep. Yep, that'd be cool. Deer season's just getting ready to start out there, isn't it? Mm-hmm. Yeah, the archery season just started, and rifle season starts the

Saturday after Thanksgiving, which I'm going back for. Okay. I'm going home pretty well after we get done here today because tomorrow I've got to do what I brought on a video show and tell that... Oh, yeah, we bring this up here.

That Phil can... can show us this was filmed last March this is my brother Tim and I what we like how we like to catch catfish and you hear my brother Tim narrating in the background that's a pile of catfish look at them it surprised it surprises both For all I want to do is catch a catfish. Oh, my. He should narrate your film. He should narrate everything.

Brent just pulled Timmy's net. We're going to pull Brent in his record. I had to say about the same amount in there. But we'll, of course, we don't keep all with all of them back. But if we're doing a fish fry or something, we can, we'll skin them all. And we did for that one. That one was our first foray into net fishing. We've both got commercial fishing licenses, and we've probably caught, I don't know how many pounds of fillets, and we ain't sold the first one yet.

We give fish away to friends and family, but we also eat a lot of it, too. Yeah. But it's just so much fun to do that. And it's a barrel net, and that net is shaped around a roll of concrete reinforcement wire. So it's pretty thick. You know, and you roll it over, and there's a man down in Louisiana that makes them force, and it's welded together, and then that net is slipped over the top of it. And it's got two throats on the inside of it where the fish go in to go after the bait. And the bait we use is in the shape and the size of a block of velvita cheese, and it's actually soybeans and cheese mashed together in that block.

I'd be one of those catfish trying to get in there. And you just put that in there and then lay it on the bottle. them where you think catfish will be and there looks like it works well let me tell you the surprise in my brother's voice when we pulled that first one up it was beyond anything it was it was surprised us both and then we had two more just like you ever get bycatch in there yeah you'll catch some some buffalo which we like to eat those too yeah in there and we've caught turtles in there before and during different times of the year like in the summertime you got to check them regularly and it's a about an hour and a half from our house where we fish so during the winter time the cold months

there's more oxygen and the fish or the survivability of them is we had never lost any fish in there we check them before you're mandated to yep like but he put some nets out um wednesday he's back checking them today and then when i get home tonight in the morning i'm going to load the boat up we're going to go and run them again cool and try to put some fish but that's that's our showing tell that's it's just a lot of fun fun way to catch them yeah and i'm a better barrel net fisherman than i am a cane boat cane rod fisherman but it's a lot of fun yeah looks like you got figured out yeah that's good those are channel cats and that's in the arkansas river uh where we uh where we catch those at nice phil yes mr reeves listener feedback if we got any

yeah it's going through if you guys have any questions for for brent since he's not here very often. He flew in just for you guys, so get those questions in, but we have a few. Garrett Springer wants to know how your East Coast trip was, Seth. Any highlights? Oh, yeah, it was great. Yeah, at a wedding

in York, Maine. My cousin was getting married, so we flew into Boston and spend a day there checking out all the things in Boston, saw the tea party, Bunker Hill, yeah, just hung out downtown, and

Paul Revere's house, saw that. Oh, really? Cool. That's one part I've never been to. Same. I'd love to go up there. I was impressed with Boston. I'm not a city guy, but that city was, like, clean and quiet and was, yeah, it was, like, pleasant to be there.

Are there still cobblestone streets? Yeah, Boston's cool, because you're walking through skyscrapers, and all of a sudden, you'll walk upon some old building. It's been there since, like, the 1600s years, so it's fun. That's cool. Yeah, I need to go visit. So from there, when I went. up to Maine, York, Maine, which from Boston to York's

about an hour drive. And was right on the coast there. Did the wedding thing. I stopped at Kittery trading post. Just check that out, which is like this big outdoor store, just right there in Maine and Kittery, Maine. They got some first light for sale there.

Nice. I actually hit up the, they had a big old bargain bin there for some fishing baits. So I stocked up. You could have brought some back for the free table. Oh, buddy. Yeah.

There's always some baits up there. Stuff that obviously doesn't work. It was just the right fisherman I ain't fishing with it. That's probably it. And then I, on their way back to Boston, I stopped in Salem where the witch trial stuff went down. Scary. And let me tell you, this time of year in Salem, it's a weird place. Dude, I don't do spooky stuff.

It is a weird place. It was cool, but very busy. My wife. Yeah, very busy. that spooky scary movies all that i'm out bro yeah i don't like none of that i'm not i was we went there with like the intentions of you know seeing some historical stuff and reading some plaques that kind of stuff you know yeah and it was just it was a it was a circus just the people you're talking about yeah the people there was i mean thousands of people there

really well they dressed up like witches oh yeah really yeah must be the upcoming holiday i guess Yeah, I mean, I thought it wouldn't have been crazy busy being early October, but I can't imagine what's like on Halloween. But it was cool. Extra spooky. Yeah. Yeah, I'm out. All right, Matt is looking for tips for still hunting fall black bears. Pennsylvania doesn't allow baiting, and I finally found a spot with some bear trails.

How do you know you're in the right place at the right time? Hmm. Well, you can look for bear scat. Yep. And the fresher, obviously, the better. and find out, I mean, find out what they're feeding on this time of year. I know in Arkansas now, it's, it's acorns. Yeah.

That's what I was going to say, acorns, or, you know, anywhere where there's a bunch of white oaks, um, still hunt through that. Especially like white oak stuff adjacent to thick Mount Laurel or, you know, good cover. The wind. Yep. Get the wind right. Just slip through the woods quietly. It's nice to, if you're going to do that in PA where there's a bunch of, uh, leaf duff on the ground.

try and pick times where it's like wet, damp, rainy. You kind of slip around. It's slipped through quietly. I know that when this last, this last bear season in Arkansas, Bear John was hunting on public land and he was still hunting like that. And he was, you got to look up in the trees too because the first bear that he encountered was already up in a tree knocking acorns out. Oh, really?

Mm-hmm. That's cool. Wow. So that's something to keep in mind when you're slipping around. Yep. Good luck Leeland I'm gonna pose this to Seth

but open field Best practical use for Fox firs Do you have a lot of experience Doing anything with Fox Seth? Sox. Fox socks Fox socks Fox and socks All my

I have foxes just hanging up In my house They're just pretty Red foxes And I have a great fox too Hanging up But um I mean you

They make like a nice red fox makes pretty cool trim around like a coat a coat hood or something like that or collar yeah um but i don't know you can kind of do whatever you want with them really yeah i just like the natural pelt hanging up like yeah yeah scarf maybe scarf scarf mm fox scarf blindfold what happened? Blindfold sure it's all good uh let's see here we have there's a lot of questions a few brent just they want more details about your trip in uh in manitoba stephen asked for just like a specific highlight the best part that's his his dream hunt and then owl uh was asked specifically about the landscape okay some major

differences about other places you've been or what you're used to what'd you like what you dislike the highlight i tell you the the thing that was hardest to get used to is walking on that spongy ground the smile of my back it took me about two or three days to get acclimated to that and just because it's not you think it's easy like walking on big shag carpet but it'll if you're not used to it it's it'll it'll play on the small of your back a little bit but the landscape was similar the trees were shorter i think than than uh where i was at in saskatchewan uh bear hunting uh or filming for clay several years ago back in the bear hunting magazine days so we were a little farther north on this hunt but the uh the highlight i think

would probably be after we killed that moose we had it all loaded in the boat Craig was obviously driving the motor and and dave gardner our cameraman was was sitting beside me and the moose was all in the front and we had headlights to drive by but it was it was kind of dusky dark the sun wasn't up but you could kind of still see a little bit And the northern lights were on top of us. Oh, nice. Wow. So we turned our lights out and actually drove back to camp in that boat with that load of moose.

That's so cool. By the northern lights. Dang. And Dave took a picture and you can see the silhouette of the elk antlers in the front of the boat. And, yeah, I'm sorry, the moose antlers in front of the boat and then the lights. And it was just. Dang. That's cool.

Yeah, it was, that would be probably the highlight. Is there grizzly bears up in that country? No, about, now we were like, we wasn't that far from Churchill. I'm not going to say the mileage, but it was just a little over 100 miles from Churchill where they have those polar bear expeditions or whatever. And there wasn't any seals there, but I even said that in a podcast. There wasn't a fence to keep them from coming down there to see what a moose tastes like. sure or a guy from Arkansas either but we we didn't see any and there's black bears there

okay we didn't see any saw wolf had an opportunity at a wolf had a good opportunity at a wolf but i've heard that before and it's stay it's still an opportunity it will it still was an opportunity of wolf and i absolutely missed him oh it was terrible sounds like an adventure it was it is what it is luckily the moose is a lot bigger i hit him All right, I'll do one more quick one before we move on to the next segment, but people are asking how the Buck Hunter trip was that Randall and I went on. It was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. It was so much fun. We got a lot of footage. I need to start sifting through. And we're going to put together a little video that's mostly about Randall and his journey competing in the big Buck Hunter amateur open tournament. But we also got an interview with the creator of the game, which is, I mean, he was an awesome guy. The community there, it was unbelievable. Like everyone, like they're playing for real money. But everyone's just having. having a blast. You know, it was, it was a really cool environment. A lot of stimuli just surrounded by arcade games and loud music for, for 10 hours a day. But it was, uh, it was a lot of fun.

Is the, the guy who made big buck hunter, is he a, a real big buck hunter? Uh, no, he is not. Uh, but there were a lot of people there who were, um, real hunters. A few of their pictures, they were, were gripping grins and, and that was my question. Yeah. Um, so, what was a percentage of hunters there to just game players. It was hard to say. I mean, we didn't interview everybody. There were 128 players. But man, all the best players lived in like the middle of nowhere in Saskatchewan.

So we kind of just assumed that those people probably do some real hunting. But I don't know. I'd say it was probably around like 20% hunters, 80 non-h hunters. Yeah. So they're scattered in there. Yeah. Can't wait to watch. It's going to be fun.

All right. Our next segment is called. called Craig listing. And Corey kind of pulled this rabbit out of his hat or... This is a good one. I know any other orifice you can name. The hat is my favorite. The hat is probably the best thing.

And so what we did was Corey Seth and I last night, our homework was to find something unique on a Craig's list somewhere in the U.S. And we did that and got some screenshots of it. We're going to show. and Corey, you're on, you're in the box, man. Okay. What did you find? Phil, which one you got first there? Okay.

It doesn't matter. Yeah, I'll pull it up here. I'm going to share two of them just because they're so, so great. It was fun. I definitely went down. This one was yours, right, Corey? Yep. I definitely went down the Craigslist rabbit hole last night with a couple of whiskeys.

This one's just funny because it's, I can't really tell what they're selling, but it's titled hunting smoke pole. Smoke pole with scope mound. Obviously, a rifle. Yeah, it's a muscle loader. Because that's what I call a gun, is a smoke pole. Got a picture of a dandy white tail buck on a tailgate there, but there's no picture or anything of... Oh, it's a tradition's buck stalker. Okay, tradition's buck stalker.

Yeah. It'd be great to have a photo of that. I feel like if you're trying to sell something, but look what it does to do. You're showing you the results first, yeah. It will make a deer lay down in the back. 50 caliber, size, size 50. Yeah. Oh, that's everything you need to know.

Condition. Excellent. Excellent. We'll take his word for it. Yeah. But a smoke pole. $325 bucks. Yeah.

That was, uh, where's that at? Somewhere between West Virginia and East Virginia. Okay. From somebody from Montana doesn't know. That was great, though. Okay. And then, uh, this one really caught my eye.

It is advertised as a hunting blind or an extra at the pool, but it's a port-a-potty. Where, uh, what are you hunting in there? Cell phones. Yeah. Don't fall in. Don't fall in. Hunting blind, extra at the pool. Guesss who are messing.

for businesses. I'm not sure what kind of business inquiry. It's a weird post. That's a do your business. Never used. I mean, it does look very clean on the inside. This was in Florida, which that was the first place I looked for funny hunting Craigslist ads.

Right. I'm not sure why. But it says it's ready to go. Never used. Never used, but it's been cleaned out. So never used for relieving yourself or never used for hunting? There you go. Well,

grammar. matters. I do, I would love to see this in the woods and all said, you just throw open the door and ka-paw! In both directions. So that was random, obviously. Pretty good stuff. All right.

Seth, what do you got, buddy? Let's see. I don't remember which one you use. Mine's the farmhouse with acre. There it is. Farmhouse with acre, $39,500, which I felt was fair. Mm-hmm. Anyway, the description is what kind of attracted me to this post.

Old-fashioned farmhouse high in the private mountainside West Virginia. Need work as is. And now this is confusing. I read this as four feet two inches by appointment only. No RTO. I don't know what that is. Cash only. Must sell quickly. My loss is your gain. Near Rock, West Virginia, great hunting spot and four-wheel trails. Cool. Selling point. Selling point. Yep.

Oh, this, this here grabbed my attention. It says, country road, take me home. Hey, boy. I'll just make it. That'd make a great song. And then he reiterates, again, it needs work. And it says, again, It needs work and a handyman dream, as is, seriously interested buyers only. The Bob Vee was special. What's RTO stand for? I don't know. You can't have any of that, though.

People with more Craigslist experience, I'm able to answer that. No RTO. What does RTO stand for? Return to office? Nope, that's not it. Recovery time objective. Oh, yeah, that sounds good. I don't know.

But where he says, well, hunting property, I like that. And he adds country road, take me home. Yes. Lovely. That's classy. Yeah. It's a good tune. That's like it.

That's marketing right there, pal. I like it. It does sound like a dream. And a nightmare. Handyman dream. Yeah. I'm not a handyman. I don't like to do that stuff.

But if you want. That's why there are handy men. Yes. But if you want a great hunting spot, farmhouse with acre. I don't know if you meant to say acres. With acre. Not it's, there's no. The acres are not.

listed here so RTO the chat the chat's yelling at all of us mostly me because I wasn't reading it it means rent to own oh no renting to own right all right this guy sounds like he's in a pickle and he needs cash now oh yeah yeah it's his money he needs cash now he needs yeah call JG wentworth all right this is uh this is what I found on my first perusal last night was here we are oh yeah now this is in council bluffs near council bluffs iowa man this guy it's 50% off all of this stuff that you're seeing and i and i highlighted two things that big old pike right there with a that's a jack of diamonds spoon bait oh yeah hanging out of his mouth now that is that is in canada that's like

the gordon lightfoot of fishing baits yep they you can catch everything that's called that's probably called millions of pike you can catch it anything on there except up pneumonia. I mean, it is, that's what we fished with when I was bear hunting up there. That's what we fished when I was with Craig two weeks ago. Yeah. And we, we caught some pike and walleye. And so if you can't catch a fish, you can buy one and hang on your wall. And the next thing, which is not going to be that big of a deal to y'all, but to the folks that know me, I first thought that was for like twin papooses that you'd put that in there, like You tote babies on your back, but that's snow shoes.

Those are snow shoes. Oh, yeah. That is foreign to me. Yeah, yeah. But they're made out of wood, and I thought it was really cool, and that'd be cool hanging up in a hunting cabin or wearing them because it's snowing outside right now. Mm-hmm.

But anyway, council blocks Iowa, everything is 50% off. You're actually losing money by not going to buy this stuff. Yes. You don't want to lose money. Now, does he say how much each item is, or just everything's 50%? I think's 50% off. You just, I mean, I mean, what are the, what other would you need? Yeah.

That seems to lure my wife into every shoe store. Bogo. That's what got me in that, uh, that fishing bin, kiddery trading post 50% off. 50% off. You just start picking up stuff. Yep. So anyway, pretty cool. Craigslist items, you can find everything on there.

He was also selling a washer and dryer in there, but. Oh, really? I was more impressed with that dead fish and the snow shoes. 50% off. Heck, you get the washer for free. It's like, oh, yeah. Well, you're going to pay in for one snowshoe. Right.

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It's just a big family group of folks, and I just absolutely love it. And they're from your neck of the woods, Pennsylvania, but in Bradford, Pennsylvania, coming to us live, there is Tom Taylor on the right and the T-Moo, Josh Allen on the left. That is John Pan Tussoff. Hello, boys. Hey, thanks for. Hey, guys. Thanks for having us.

I was wondering how long it was going to take you to crack that one, Brent. Oh, man. Yeah, thank you guys for, thank you. for having a sign it's going to be here i've been sitting on that one just wait but you could absolutely do stunts for that guy especially before you got your haircut but you guys are out in bradford pennsylvania case knives they're making pocket knives for a hundred and how many years now 136 136 years wow we went out there last summer summer or Last year, Alexis and Bailey and I went out.

They invited us to come out for a Maid and Bradford event that they have out there. And they took us on a tour of the where they make all the knives and a case pocket knife that I tote in my pocket. It goes through like 167 steps from the time the raw materials come in there to that knife goes out the door. And there's all the people that work in there and they've got a humongous American flag. background on it and when i was in i was in there i asked the guy that was giving me the tour uh tony defazio uh who was an engineer is that right engineer with case yep yeah he was giving us the tour and i asked him if i could film in there you know for like social media stuff and he said yeah man you film anything you want to he said but make sure you get that big american flag that's

hanging on the wall back there nice because we're really proud of that and i'm absolutely i'm just proud to be here and connected with y'all associated with you tell me what y'all got going on that's new out in case right now well i was just looking on craigslist to try to buy that hunting blind that's an offer on that no but but seriously uh we've got a lot of good stuff going on um we just launched a cool new product crossroads barlow uh it's our hunting hunting season around here so making sure all of our partners have the right hunting knives. I know our dads are always asking us, you know, for new equipment to use. Yeah. Yeah. And obviously, like, you know, Christmas is already around the corner.

Right. So the gift giving season, I mean, who doesn't love getting a knife as a present, you know, and it's our product especially, like, Brian, you can attest with us. It's, it's generational, right? So, you know, you got dads buying knives for their sons and so on and so forth so this is this is our kind of a busy season right now but but we love it we could sell knives every day it's great well i'm happy to report that they were at once sold out about a month ago but they're back in stock now my the brent reeves signature case mini trapper is back in stock here at in the media on the online store and they'll be getting them in the bozeman store here in the next couple of days a few days but nice you can get them now on the on the store and that

is an incredible tribute to my family, not to me, but to my family's relationship with Case Knives and now the relationship that we have with the folks that make them. And I just couldn't be more proud to call you guys friends, first of all, and business partners secondly.

So it's just I appreciate it so much. I know that we have a text thread. These two guys right here, and me and my wife have a text thread. It goes back. Shout out to Alexis. We love Alexis. I give a shout out.

They goes on periodically and we, uh, we have a good time. Uh, the barlo, y'all just came back out. Tell us about the barlo and the history of the barlo and how that's the barlo pocket knife, which should be common knowledge to folks probably my age and older. And it may, y'all may not know what I'm talking about, but tell us. us about the barlow knife so the the barlow we we call like the knife the barlow is a pattern right so like the trappers a pattern mini trappers a pattern the barlow is probably one of the oldest jackknife patterns you know that even predates case right and so everybody knows you know our product we make

pinned together with the bone handles brass liners we used stainless carbon steel but recently last year we started a new product line called the Crossroads. And so now we're reintroducing the barlow pattern with sort of like a modern touch to it. So it's screwed together, kind of like a modern flipper would be. And it's got some more modern materials. Like the handles are rich light and G10, so they're super light and they're pretty strong and durable as well. And it's an upgraded steel too. So it's S35 v. So it's got super good edge retention, erosion resistance. And it doesn't take away from what our bread and butter is, which is your favorite, the mini trapper with the bone handles. I mean, we're always going to do that. But this just gives us sort of a different product

offering for those that are looking to carry a pocket slip joint, but with something that's a little bit more modern. Yeah, our slip joints will be around forever, but just putting a modern span on a traditional pattern, keeping that heritage of the 136 years, but, you know, just bringing it into, you know, 2026. Absolutely. It's a beautiful knife. Yeah. I got a question for you guys.

Like, how many different knives do you, like different styles of knives do you make? Oh. That's a big one. A lot. I think there's, I think it's in the 20.

We call them patterns. So there's 22 different patterns we make of slip joints. Then we've got fixed blades. We've got some, modern flippers. If you walk through that factory, I think you'd be amazed at not only the people that are working there, but just the operation and the amount of intricacies that go into every single different knife.

Yeah. It's pretty crazy. I think, like, with all the different, because we love using natural material. So bone, we use from a Zibu cattle, which is from South America. So we use that bone on quite a bit of our stuff. We like using woods as well. Buffalo horn. Buffalo horn.

And we've done a lot of other abalone, a lot of other really like pretty natural materials. So, I mean, with all the different bone, dime variations we do, there's probably what, like six to 700 different individual skews that we make. Oh, wow. Yeah. And like you mentioned that Barlow was that predates case, but like how many patterns or whatever you want to call them or did like case come up with? Oh, I don't know an exact number, but there's a lot of them. It's just like the Copper Lock, the Sodbuster, Sadbuster Jr. The Rust Lock. The Rust Lock.

Yeah, there's definitely pattern specific to case that are trademarked. Nice. I know that you mentioned about walking in how incredible it is to walk in and see all the different knives in the factory. And I was like, my wife Alexis in the Hobby Lobby. I had to touch everything in there. I couldn't go by a shelf without laying my hands on it. It was absolutely incredible. We had to have a guy following Brent taking the fingerprints off.

They weighed me on the way in and weighed me on the way out and make sure I didn't stick my pockets full. But there was, the people was really what was really heartfelt. And I met a man in there. And I talked about this on a podcast. I tell a real quick story. When they invited us to come out, I wanted to take some knives out there that was special to me. So I took the first knife that John sent me in the mail for the, just like, hey, we appreciate what you said about our knives.

So I took that knife and then I took one that I bought for my dad when I was 14 and I got that knife back after he passed away. So I carried that knife and we went in the factory and the first guy that they introduced us to is working and there's a man by the name Mr. Dave Jackson. I think he worked like 53 years. And at that time he worked like 51 years. So I was talking after he introduced me to him. I was thinking I started doing a little math in my head and I pulled that knife out of my pocket.

And on case knife, there's a, if you open up the blade on the tang, which is right next to where it clips into the, into the knife itself, there's always codes and dots on there than you can tell from what, when that knife was made on there, if you have a key to it. So I handed, I pulled that knife out of my pocket and I handed it to Mr. Jackson. I said, would you have worked on his knife? And he pulled it, opened it up and handed it and said, oh, yeah, I worked on that knife and handed it back to me. Oh, that's cool. It was really cool to be there and talk with the man that built the knife that I gave to my dad. The first knife I ever bought, I gave it to him, and then I got that knife back and to take it on that, on that. That's cool.

Big circle of taking it back out there. It was really cool. And he was there. I talked to several folks, man, have been working there like 30 years, over 30 years and generational employees. It truly is one big family out there. That's cool. It's really cool. Yeah, they're beautiful knives.

My son, Marshall has a knife that his grandfather gave him. Marshall always asks about it. It's a case knife. I couldn't tell you which model it is, but it says grandfather and grandson on it. Oh, nice. And that'll be his first hunting knife, hopefully at about three years when we get to go deer hunting, he'll get to break that out. He asks about it all the time. Nice.

Beautiful. It's awesome, man. It's good stuff. Well, I certainly appreciate you guys being on here. anything else we need to cover before we move along you guys got anything marissa oh brett how did you like i do got to ask how uh how did you like that that ridge back when you were uh processing that moose stuff in canada how to work man let me tell you you see the pictures of that i did see that yeah i'm going to put those pictures up on my instagram so folks can see it it was no

the first thing is i don't know why we didn't call that knife the razor back but after that being said that being said Craig was very impressed with that with that knife and Dave Gardner as well and Dave I don't know how many moose he skinned but he skinned a lot of elk but they were very impressed we I went we went through that whole moose and I didn't have to sharpen it after we were cutting meat on it cutting meat up on it the third day and I finally put it on a wet rock but it it it was really good really held the edge and really easy to use. And, uh, yeah, I loved it.

But I'm, I'm saying, you know, razor back, ridge back, it could have, I think, I think we missed the opportunity there. We'll see what we can do there. We'll see what we can do. It might be too late. All right. Thank you guys. I appreciate you so much and, uh, look forward to talking to you probably, before I get home today.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you guys so much. Appreciate it. Take care. Thanks guys.

Thank you. Oh, man, those dudes, they're great people. And they're a lot of fun, a lot of fun. Have we got any more listener feedback? Yeah, we can do a few more. This is from Keegan. You guys have a favorite headlamp? Anything you want to...

I do. Yeah, have it, Brent. I do. I've got my friend Michael Roseman makes Sunspot lights. Oh, yeah. Kuna lights. And Steve loves them as well. But he also makes one called a Ben Oak light.

and it's like a head, just got the straps that go on your noggin instead of having the, you know, the helmet. Yeah, and I actually used it up in Manitoba on that moose hunt, and I'll put some pictures of it up there. That's my favorite. You can get them from sunspot huntinglights.com, I think it is. We had them at the Meteor store for a hot minute, but I don't know if we do anymore.

That might be my favorite headlamp too, because I was bear hunting, black bear hunting in Montana, with Clay and his son Bear John and we had a grizzly bearer that I had bumped three times and she seemed like she was just kind of hanging around us plus we had a dead bear on the back of our backs right and when the sun went down my little black diamond head lamp was doing great at least being able to see one step ahead but then Claibow broke out that big coon light holy cow yeah that was really comforting gris country felt like the sun came back up yeah it was nice spot light that's the reason it is yeah I need to get one of those that's my favorite cool thanks Devin just wants to let us know his 8-year-old son Dylan caught his first fish yesterday. Dylan! Big Northern Pike. He's watching the show. Congrats.

Congratulations, Dylan. That's awesome. And the last. Not the last. I'm sure it won't be. This one's just for me. Brian asks, do you all let your wives decorate the shoulder mounts around the house for Christmas? I don't know why we have to, you know, relegate that to just the wives. I'd love to do that too.

But do you guys decorate your mounts for holidays? Alexis tried to put a Santa Claus hat on a deer I had one time, and I said, nope, we're not doing that. Ooh, disrespect. Tough. It's, I agree. It's a little disrespectful, but my wife and I have a funny agreement where I get to put them pretty much wherever I want, but she gets to hang stuff on it.

Yeah, my elk has a Rudolph Christmas ornament hanging on it since last Christmas. Right. It's just too awkward to reach without a ladder, so. And I'm not judging, folks. That's just, that's just my opinion. I don't do it, but you can if you want to. and be wrong. This one's for Corey from Chase.

I don't know if you have an answer, Corey, but he seems to think you will. What clothing type is best for early season archery hunting? Polyester, lightweight merino, or some type of blend. Oh, Marino all the way. For temps in the like 70 to 90 degree range. Yeah, I'd say Marino all the way. I mean, there are some great synthetic polyester's.

First Light makes the Yuma, which is great too. but you just can't beat first lights wick if you like the hoodie like i do keep the sun off your ears and all not or you can just get the quarter zipper the long sleeve but lightweight marino i always have a backup in my backpack just in case i get too sweaty if it's that hot you probably don't need a backup but this time of year that's always against my skin well that's the nice thing about marino is when it's 70 to 90 and you're hiking around the elk woods you're not going to stink yeah but you will stink and synthetic synthetic gets pretty ripe after half a day where Marino will last you a week.

A little spicy. Spicy. To the nostrils. Get a little spicy. Stings the nostrils. I like Marino for everything, every time of the year. Me too. Yeah.

Hot, cold. Yep. In between. Base layer, mid layer. Yeah. Go Marino. A really quick one from Russell. That was from Chase, by the way.

Russell's asking what caliber you used for your moose. He says, sorry if this was asked, but he had to leave the show to help a youth deer hunter. Great. Oh, that's a good reason to leave. But it was a 300 PRC, and I had to shoot that rascal three times with it. All three of them were then. I was in the boiler room, and he acted like he didn't even phase him. It was tremendous, tremendous round.

It performed wonderfully, and I got one of them back, the guy that's tanning the hide, found one of them. Oh, cool. So that'll be a little nugget of gold I'll get to keep along with the antlers. A nice little mushroom. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was good. Cool.

Yeah, two hundred and twelve grains of stop and lay down. steak Cameron's asking if you guys put in for Eastern Elk quota hunts have you ever done that any I put in for Pennsylvania yeah Seth and I were just looking at some yeah I was just showing Pennsylvania Bulls

good Lord those are on a different level compared out here but no I another draw for them Pennsylvania yep yeah and I know Kentucky is that's probably your best odds of getting tag you're right yeah I don't know the other states

There's a handful of states that have, you know, eastern elk. I should say elk in the east or not eastern elk. But yeah, there's, and it seems like more and more states are starting to have seasons and more and more states are starting to have elk these days. So they do well back east. They do real well in Pennsylvania. I know that. They get big.

Let's do one more here. I thought this one was fun. This is from Leland again. He's asking what the oldest. rifle that you have used to harvest game is if you know the answer to this question it's probably be a 30 30 30 winchester 30 30 30 I think that's probably killed more deer than c wd in in south arkansas where I grew up it was a 30 30 lever action rifle whether it was a marlin or a winchester yeah and that was probably and it was um uh my oldest brother tim is his brother-in-law in

it was his grandfather's gun i think so it was like three generations that and i got to bar it and and kill a deer with it my first deer rifle was a uh husk barna 308 really yeah the chainsaw folks yep same company they used to make rifles i did not know i don't know the year of that rifle i still have it um had it had a straight red or straight four power redfield on it and yeah I killed a lot of deer with that thing until I bought a different rifle. But that was a steel rival you bought after that. Yeah. Real loud.

Yeah. So loud. I had to put oil in it. Um, but no, I should, I should, I'd never looked up the year of that rifle, the Husk of that I, I should, I've never even heard of it. So that gives me something. But I'm sure that's the, that's the oldest rifle that I've ever killed something. Yeah, mine's a lot less exciting.

It would have been an old 243. that was my dad's that would have been my first big game harvest, which would have been an antelope. I was 12. I couldn't tell you the brand, but I do remember it was a 243. Still got it? Nice. My father does. Yeah. Dad's got it. Yep.

Little man, Marshall, get on that. That'd be a great first gun. Yeah. Yeah. Well, if he shoots it half as good as he writes a book, it's going to be outstanding. Watch out, Stephen Ronella. He's coming for you. Phil, is that it? Yeah, it's going to call it there. Solid show. We're going to put the cork

in it or pull the plug or whatever it is. Alexis and Bailey, get ready. Daddy's coming home. Thank you, boys. You got a plane to catch. I got a plane to catch. Thank you all for being here. Thank everybody for tuning in and listening.

Hopefully I'll be back soon and do it again. Thank you, Phil. Thanks, guys. Thanks, guys. Big news, folks, the third volume in our Meat Eaters American History audiobook series is available right now wherever you get your audiobooks. That's right, it's available now. It's called Meat Eaters American History, the hide hunters, 1865 to 1883. It tells the story of the commercial buffalo hunters who drove North America's most iconic large land mammal to the brink of extinction in the years after the Civil War.

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