The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 818: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CXCVIII

Episode Date: January 7, 2026

Nate Mason guest hosts MeatEater Trivia with Steven Rinella, Brody Henderson, Randall Wiliams, Seth Morris, Corinne Schneider, Cory Calkins, and Anthony Finissi. Connect with MeatEater on Instagram, F...acebook, Twitter, YouTube, and YouTube Clips Subscribe to MeatEater Podcast Network on YouTube Shop Trivia MerchSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:46 trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I am not your normal host, Spencer Newhart, but your Gibroni host, Nate Mason. And today we're joined by Anthony, Corinne, Corey, Seth, Randall, Brody, and Steve. Big day Big day for you
Starting point is 00:01:05 Lots of mess up here Yeah my computer's about to die I forgot about that Oh that's a problem I do need a charger Here we go You know the show is going right now Well we can restart it
Starting point is 00:01:16 We're not too deep No I wouldn't do that I'd keep going It's complexity for full Why would you do that to me name Dude I'm sorry I got no two hour conversation I got the normal little guy
Starting point is 00:01:24 Round two It's all part of the show No not planned It is on brand Well, folks, he's already failing. Okay. We'll keep rolling. This is an abortion of an experiment here.
Starting point is 00:01:37 This is a 10-round quiz show with questions from Meteor's 4 verticals, which are hunting, fishing, fishing, fishing, somebody ticked Spencer. Meat Eater will donate $500 to conservation organization, the winner's choosing. For our IFAQ, it comes from John Fouch. Are you just doing this to practice? No, we're just keeping up. No, we're doing the show. Okay, sorry. The show is on right now.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Yeah, it's going, dude. We're on IFAQs. I don't think you're going to... Here's a deal. Late on them. The audience was confused. Just know that we were, too. I feel like...
Starting point is 00:02:11 Spencer's a singular talent. For me to say you did a good job. Is that me saying that Spencer does a bad job? You just need to use the negative 5 to 5 scale. Spencer's a 5. And you just hope when he'd be better than 0. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Go on Okay Today's IFAQ Comes from John Fouch What superstitions Do Meat Eater Trivia players have I think this is This is in the context
Starting point is 00:02:42 Of meat eater trivia Oh I thought you're asking Whether or not I believed in life after death I mean I think it makes sense I thought he was talking like hunting superstitions Oh I thought it was like haunting
Starting point is 00:02:51 You a ghost guy? No Hmm Yeah I would interpret as Trivia superstitions Yeah I tried sunglasses on upside down once. Didn't work.
Starting point is 00:03:03 No. For a while I was making elaborate borders around my board, and I won a few times, and then the power of that failed me, so I abandoned it. Until today. Yeah, until today, we'll get another shot. There you go. No other superstitions? Cool. No.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Roll on the housekeeping. On a previous episode of Trivia. Sorry, Nate. We're letting you down. The host will take the blame, but it could be the players. I'm not helping a superstition of a certain Paul came over the room when you came in. I'm developing a superstition of not playing trivia when you're hosting. I just want to know. Can I see the questions?
Starting point is 00:03:47 No. Oh, okay. No. They're good. Don't worry. My pro performance in the intro will be negated by my positive performance. Here we go. Great. Spencer asked a question about South Carolina barbecue. I missed that question of since filed an ADA complaint, so I'd like to share a note from an impassioned South Carolinian. South Carolina features three distinct cultures and ideologies related to seasoning of pulled pork. Vinegar, ketchup, and that yellow abomination. Cachup is mainly in the upstate, close to the Georgia border. Vinegar is from the part of the state east of 95 down to the coast, the correct part of this great state. Mustard is located primarily in the Midlands and is the product of abject parenting failures and terrible life decisions.
Starting point is 00:04:27 mustard does not and never will represent the good citizens of South Carolina and I demand a correction to the record Jake Thompson But like there's so many different kinds and preparations of mustard There's like where it's all seed And then there's
Starting point is 00:04:43 Dijon And then there's spite There's so There's that yellow one Do you say Dijon again for me? Dijon Wow pretentious
Starting point is 00:04:52 Very French Yeah Baguette Great Poupon What does he mean ketchup? I don't know. I've never used ketchup and barbecue. I've only known a vinegar and mustard.
Starting point is 00:05:04 I think that's the base for the barbecue. Yeah, like a tomato base. Now, one of my faves is when you take, I guess this would combine the two cultures, is when you take equal parts, apple cider vinegar, and Joe Blow mustard. Not Dijon, but it's like Hellman's, whatever.
Starting point is 00:05:23 The working man's mustard. And you make a mop. That is vinegar and mustard, which must be what they eat right on I-99. Yeah, yeah. I think this guy's dead wrong. I love mustard-based barbecue steak. I think it's really good. Isn't Carolina style?
Starting point is 00:05:38 That's what I'm saying. Carolina gold. That's what he's coming back. Yeah, I love that. All that say, I don't think we're correcting the record, but your complaint's been heard. That was a fun email. No, I agree. Well written.
Starting point is 00:05:48 I took a lot out, too. It was merited reading. I wouldn't mind having a big old map of the country. That shows all. that yeah you know like when you're a kid they make you take a map and you'd have to like put like wheat over kansas and like you know like an agricultural map i wouldn't mind having a barbecue map that's got to exist like michigan would just be like what sweet baby rays or something it'd be blank it'd be a hamburger with a pickle and buster and ketchup i'd like to see a
Starting point is 00:06:21 map of the u.s of like places where they claim that their pizza is special somehow in some way Chicago New York St. Louis St. Louis Let's not get into it Keep short
Starting point is 00:06:34 As your first and probably last Gebroni host I'm going to give some love to a fellow gibboni Contrary to popular belief Our primary occupation is not getting dunked on by Randall Brody and the elusive Steve
Starting point is 00:06:46 Anthony little Tony Finisi is not only a Gibroni but also the director of financial planning here at Meat Eater He's the man behind the forecast budgets and sales reports we all know in love, and he does a great job. Keep it up, Anthony.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Thank you, Nate. Wow. All right. Everything bad I was going to say, just went away. Boom. The Cameron Index for today is five, so I'm putting us on perfect game alert. And with that, we're on the game of trivia. Play the drop, Phil.
Starting point is 00:07:12 No goodness. Kind of rush through that, mate. Look, I need to know what I stand to win. I need to know what kind of questions he's got. Easy ones, apparently. He's going to find out of everything. He's got a sharp white. Come on, guys.
Starting point is 00:07:27 It's true. Game on, suckers. Question one. The topic is wildlife. According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, this is the name for a group of wild pigs. A, a colony, B, a sounder, C, a slop, D, a parade. D. Easy.
Starting point is 00:07:51 According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, this is the name for a group of wild pigs. A, a colony, B, a sounder, C, a slop, D, a parade. Did you have Spencer check to see if any of these questions have been asked before? I assumed he did that because he nixed a couple. And, but some he like tweaked. Where is Spencer? Dying at home from the flu? He's got sick.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Gravely ill. Like, not going to make it. COVID. It's unclear. He told me he wouldn't make it. Tuesday so all right we good everyone got their answer reveal them
Starting point is 00:08:31 Seth says sounder son of a gun Anthony says parade Steve says sounder Randall says sounder Corin says sounder Cory says sounder and Brody says sounder
Starting point is 00:08:45 Wild Souths can produce one to two litters per year with four to 12 piglets What's the correct answer Nate? Yeah give the correct answer Oh dude correct answer sounder Hey we could have told you that but that's okay Spencer would have been like, they got it. They got it. I'll do that on the next one.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Something like sauce it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No mustard. No mustard. Wild sows can produce one to two litters per year with four to 12 piglets per litter. Sows can breed year-round reaching sexual maturity as early as six to eight months. Although pregnant sows are sometimes considered the best table fair, wild hogs of all ages, sizes, and genders taste delicious.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Hmm. Question two. Here. The next question is via Richard Keller How many types of North are on the USGS topographical map Oh How many types of North are on a USGS topographical map Good question
Starting point is 00:09:45 Wow Yeah There's different ways to read this I'll be curious to see You didn't make that up Who made that up? Richard Keller Well, who's Richard Keller?
Starting point is 00:10:00 He's a listener He said me I didn't see him in payroll A different I tweaked his question a lot So if he gets mad at me, that's fine You'll hear about it Yeah, I'm sure
Starting point is 00:10:13 I think he's Marine He had a little Marine emblem on his email You guys don't like ask each other About stuff like that? Well, I'm not emailing them back and forth Why not? I will How would you bring it up?
Starting point is 00:10:25 What do you mean? Would you be like Semper 5, bro? No, I'm an Army dude. That's right. Here's some cranes. Sorry, you wouldn't say Semper 5th. No, I love Marines, man. I won't go in on Marines.
Starting point is 00:10:36 No, what do you say? Like, when you meet another dude and you're like, you're like, you're a military guy. Yep. And you get a glimpse. You're engaging with someone. Like, do you, how often do you bring it up? Let's say you're buying gas and the guy behind the counter, you realize, some bitch is military.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Do you go like Semper 5, bro? No. The only time is if I know like we overlapped at a duty state, like if we have some sort of personal connection further than the military. So you guys don't have like a little thing.
Starting point is 00:11:05 I mean, I think they're cool. I respect them but like we're not immediately homies. You got a handshake? If there's a I don't just walk around handshake and veterans. No, no, nothing like that.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Huh. Yeah. Yeah, if I knew some dude worked at the gas station was from Michigan, wouldn't be like holy she's you know hey shake my hand it's a lot of people in the military a lot of great people a lot of dumb people I'm ready that's a hot take yeah not a hot take all right everyone show your answers set says five Anthony says three Steve says two Randall says two Corinne says five Corey says six that's right and
Starting point is 00:11:46 Brody says two two the correct answer is three no it's not the three magnetic are true True magnetic and grid. True North. If you're an army guy over here, if you're an army guy, you do. Was that a guess, though? No. Really?
Starting point is 00:12:04 That's in the USGS. Oh, yeah. Are you sure? Yep, 100%. Positive. That's a great question. It is not. I thought that was a softball.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Softball. Thank you, Nate. Yeah, that's what I meant. If it was two, I would be calling it a softball. Whatever. Yeah, well. True North is the first. fixed geographic point in North Pole where all lines of
Starting point is 00:12:25 longitude converge at the Earth's rotational axis. Magnetic North is the dynamic point where the Earth's magnetic fields point vertically downward. Because it shifts annually due to the changes the Earth's core, compass users must adjust for magnetic declination when using a compass. Grid north is used on flat topographic maps where vertical grid lines run parallel to one another rather
Starting point is 00:12:43 than converging. I'll tell you something you should have put it in there. No, lay it on me. Did you know that periodically magnetic north and south there's a polarity switch do you know how they found that out no by looking at in sea floor spreading by looking at how crystals are orientated
Starting point is 00:13:04 as during as the crust is getting created in sea floor spreading where they realize it's like north south north south I've been reading a lot about as lava comes up and solidify the crystals solidify on magnetism telling you what buddy that's no it's really you did just one of my biggest pet peeves but we'll cover that later I just read a book called Ends of the Earth by Neil Shubin. It's about the polls.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Fascinating stuff. Is your pet peeve? People telling you stuff you don't know. No, I love it. I love. My pet peeve is people saying orientated. Yeah. I picked up.
Starting point is 00:13:35 I did notice that too. I'm going to reorientate your nose. See, that's correct. You're not going to reorientated my nose. Wait, the Poles book. Yeah. Not about the people? About the...
Starting point is 00:13:47 No. But I've read some of those books, too. All right, moving on. question three natural history this is our listener question of the week which was won by daniel fisher it's got to be a good one for sending this great question daniel's going to get a board game signed by the crew if you want a chance to win the listener question of the week then send your question to trivia at the meat eater dot com according to the biblical account samson killed this animal and later found honey and a swarm of bees inside the carcass
Starting point is 00:14:22 question in here? Oh yeah, I did. Listener question of the week. Delilah, right? Yep. Hey there. She's that lady who cut his hair. I had a badass mullet in high school when I cut my hair and then the next week I broke my leg and there are a lot of Sampson jokes. You could have a good mullet going right now, Randall. Some might say I do. Dude, I'd be a little shorter on top for true mullet. See, I don't know this particular.
Starting point is 00:14:52 particular one, but I know, like, in the Bible, there's a lot of references to and killings of. I think you're wrong based on that comment. Oh, shoot. That's where I went. Oh, that's a pretty big hint, Nate. Yeah. That was a big hint. This is a brony episode.
Starting point is 00:15:07 You know, we just throw out hints every now and then. Can I'm going back to what I wrote? You got any other hints? If I get this wrong, that's your fault. It's not a unicorn. Maybe. Everyone got an answer? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:20 All right, reveal your answers. Seth says goat Anthony says bear Steve says bear Why went bear lion bear Crossed out lion Randall says lion Corinne says ram
Starting point is 00:15:32 Cory says lion Brody says lying They got it It's lying Why did you tell me it wasn't what I thought You can't do that This is a Brody host a dude We can do anything
Starting point is 00:15:42 Dude I wrote lying down I said I'm putting a thing that's in a lot of symbolism In stories in the Bible Meaning lion That could have been a lamb That's not it. I was thinking lamb.
Starting point is 00:15:53 He thought you were written down a lamb. Why is it? I'm going to have it. Why would he come? Phil, Phil, do you ever think sometimes there's no rules? Dude, you can't, like, but not close to the rules. You can't flat out steer someone wrong.
Starting point is 00:16:05 I didn't. A lamb. Samson, he's like a big badass. He's not going to kill him about to hear about it. Call us about Samson. That's David. That's David. That's David.
Starting point is 00:16:16 He killed a dude named Goliath. Samson knocked a pillors down when they gotcha out of his eyes. What did he killed that lion with? His bare hands, listen to this. Samson kills the lion with his bare hands and returns later to discover a bee's nest with honey which he proceeds to eat. His other hunting adventures include catching
Starting point is 00:16:30 300 foxes for an arson campaign and using a donkey's jawbone to kill a thousand Philistines. I almost said donkey. Wouldn't have been right. I know. What about would have been in the answer though? Seems like a pretty cool dude.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Yeah. That's got to be a pretty tough jawbone. Yeah. I figure it's fresh because of his old, it'd break. Question four, hunting. It's in the FAQ. He was chosen some chock-hilled job-old. Hunting. Nabda uses this term to describe a pointing dog's ability to remain in place until released.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Oh, darn. Can we phone a friend? I don't know why I'm even down here. Ronnie, babe. Navda uses this term to describe a pointing dog's ability to remain in place. until released. You know that meme of the woman screaming at the cat
Starting point is 00:17:29 and her friend's trying to hold her back? That's, I, and Steve was like, why did you tell me to write this day? And I cut to Nate and he just had this look on his face. It just reminded me of that. It was very good. Sometimes Spencer gives us
Starting point is 00:17:39 like the amount of letters in the word. I'll do that later. No, I don't do that. I'll do that later. I don't know this, but if it's what I think it is. Is this like while the dog is pointing? Navda uses this term to describe a pointing dog's ability to remain in place until released.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Oh, you know, I'll give you that. It is when the dog's pointing. Oh! I'll give you that. That's a helpful clarification. Otherwise, it could just be like sit-stay kind of stuff. Yeah, but that's not like a... That's a command. I know what I'd call it. I came up with a dumb answer. That's wrong. Yeah, I don't even know why I'm down here, dude. I've only got one right, Randall.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Anybody's still thinking? Corey. Haven't even started. okay we'll give you some time this no I haven't even started thinking oh we'll give you some time got hit with a rock that was a while ago your face looks a lot better oh thank you you too i forgot about that yeah you were trying to keep what really happened under wraps that's what i heard no not at all spilled the beans to the world yeah at least people who watch radio live i got the full story bar fight and some good photos yeah big one bobcat fans mm-hmm took them all on at once
Starting point is 00:18:51 Last night? A couple weeks ago. All right. If everyone's ready, reveal your answers. Seth says hold. Anthony says steady. Steve says hold. Randall says hold.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Corinne says freeze ability. Corey says free slash froze. Brody says hold point. There is a correct answer in the room. Of course there is. Steadiness. Really? How is he?
Starting point is 00:19:16 That's not what I'd call. Steady. That is an easy one. delineated by four stages. Steady to flush, steady to wing, steady to shot, and steady to fall. Target species, terrain, vegetation, and temperament impact the stage a dog handler may train their dog, too.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Don't you feel like good hosting you would have pointed out what Navda stands for? If you came to trivia, you'd know, we kind of know what Navda is. I know, but the listeners I'm thinking about. I know it's North American versatile hunting dog association. Thank you. I didn't know that. It needs to me. Could have been a question.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Could have been a question. Sounds like a trade agreement. It was a question. It does. It does. I think it was last. Yeah. See, the finance guy gets that joke.
Starting point is 00:19:57 He gets the joke. I said it sounds like a trade agreement. I laughed at. He can't stop laughing. Seth, he didn't know what I was talking about. Every time I hear that, I think a NAPA for some reason. North America fur auction. So when everyone else says a dog is holding point, Navda says it's being steady.
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Starting point is 00:21:52 Question 5 We'll have a scoreboard review after this question Questions category is Wildlife And this great question comes from Savannah Volgamon What bird has the largest wingspan
Starting point is 00:22:07 What bird has the largest wingspan? What bird has the largest wingspan? Is it alive today? Yes. How specific Do you want us to be? If it was, if the answer was Labrador Retriever,
Starting point is 00:22:23 retriever would be fine. Okay. Or White Tail Deer. Bill, who's got the high, what's the highest score in the room right now? I think Anthony's got it, dude. Yeah. Everyone, we've got a three-way tie. Randall and Anthony and Brody have two points apiece.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Oh, okay. So much for that perfect game, Nate. So much. Biggest lens. Yeah, we might have to adjust the old index. Cam might be a conservation ring Boy, I'm really torn This is a first in the game of trivia
Starting point is 00:22:53 One man just grabs another's bored I know I'm not changing my stuff I know we've had We've had gentlemen's agreements To flash one another from now and then But to just grab someone's board I'm just going nah huh
Starting point is 00:23:05 Because Because that's wrong I don't know I was gonna say Randall had a pretty quick answer For the audio listeners for a man Who is famously Who's the source I guess According to him
Starting point is 00:23:15 That's because I'm playing with a limited deck here, Phil. I looked at the four birds in my deck and I chose one. Oh, I got to tweet my answer. Well, I would change your answer. I mean, how bigger are they? Just look at it. Like, I've always expected to be like a heron. Oh, what? I don't know. Ready? Yeah, that's not going to. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:23:35 No, no. Easy, dog. Oh, I just got another idea. I can't think of the name. These birds. Here's the deal, too, like. Oh, boy. Ter a doubt. Now, tell us. Well, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Corey, do you also have two points? I do. I can't tell him he's got two points. Thank you. I'm not going to change my answer based on what you wrote. I don't know if that's what you told us earlier. I've got a higher score than you, Steve. I'll take that look.
Starting point is 00:24:16 You need to get yourself a bird, Corey. Is that not a bird? I think it's a bird. Well, it's a bird, but it ain't the bird. Everyone got their answers? He's like, shit. All right, let's see him.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Seth says Sandhill Crane. Anthony says Eagle. Steve says Albatross. Randall says Condor. Corinne says Crane. Corey says Seahawk. Brody says Condor crossed out Albatross. The correct answer is Albatross.
Starting point is 00:24:45 No. Damn it. Damn. Boasting wingspans up to 11.5 feet, the wandering and royal albatross are capable of circumnavigating the globe. I wrote wandering albatross. So who else had albatross? Well, I scratched it out. So no one else.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I'm the only one that got the point. Okay, no complaints. I'm glad we got that refresh. What's the wingspan of an Andean condor? Look it up real quick. I'll look that up after the show. I checked it. He's not wrong.
Starting point is 00:25:12 He is. That'd make me wrong. I know. Covering over 500 miles a day, Albatross used a specialized tendon sheet that acts as a lock, allowing them to glide from miles with very little energy expenditure. They also have glands above their eyes that filter salt from their blood and expel to excess brine through their nostrils,
Starting point is 00:25:29 allowing them to survive off seawater. Oh. What's Brody wanting to look up? Andy and Condor. But that's not what you wrote. Wrote condor. You wouldn't be right no matter what, because there's different condors. Well, he said you didn't need to be specific.
Starting point is 00:25:43 When did you say that? He did the lab analogy thing. The Andean condor is bigger by weight, but the wandering albatross is a larger wingspan. Okay, I'll accept that. Brody, keep working. Nate, you're doing a great job. Thanks, Randall. Phil, also, if you have some time, look up condors.
Starting point is 00:26:00 All right, that was question five. I'm back to him. We have a scoreboard update. Oh, we do indeed. Let's look at it. Corinch Snyder's not on the board with zero points at half time. They come back. Seth Moore, well, you truly could come back based on the rest of the score.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Seth Morris has one and now with Steve's point, the only person to get that last question, right? He rounded himself up with the current first place position holders who are Randall, Anthony, Steve, and Brody. They all have two points. Where's four people are beating Seth? There's a lot of cross talk guys, just for the audience. Corey Cowkins also has two points. Hey. You're right there.
Starting point is 00:26:42 You're right there. Breezing right past you. No, you're fine. I'm short. All right. Question six. According to Chesapeake Bay Magazine, handlining is the easiest way to recreationally harvest blue crabs and uses a 15-foot piece of twine
Starting point is 00:26:58 with a chicken blank tied on the end. Chicken blank. According to Chesapeake Bay Magazine, handlining is the easiest way. Chicken number. To recreationally harvest blue crabs. Chicken tequila masala. And uses a 15-foot piece of twine with a chicken plank tied on the end.
Starting point is 00:27:19 This Bubba from Forrest Gumping over here. Just one? What do you ask? Is this a singular answer or plural? Chicken teakamasa. Is the word plural? A. I'm just curious.
Starting point is 00:27:35 The article A. We don't crab that off in Montana. Oh, I know. I'm well aware. According to Chesapeake Bay That's an important part of If you asked everyone in this room To be like, take an hour
Starting point is 00:27:49 And write down every print publication you can think of That one wouldn't come up Chesapeake Bay magazine would not come up How many would you be able to write that covered crabs? Yeah Nate I appreciate what you did here Thank you. Because Steve could just be saying
Starting point is 00:28:08 Well so and so told me that you tie chicken and I do it. It's fine, but you can't throw out Chesapeake Bay magazine. You know, I think there's about a... Knowing that publication, I assume they're... What's interesting as National Geographic
Starting point is 00:28:25 saying there's seven continents? I have to include this because of your complaints, and now you're complaining about me including it. According to a magazine, my neighbor sells in the sun, makes that home selling the subway. So you could have just used yourself as a...
Starting point is 00:28:39 It has existed, has been in circulation. 75 years. That sounds like a reputable institution. We're establishing some bonus. Hey, I'm not dogging. I'm going to subscribe for sure. I don't want those guys to think I'm dogging on. I'm going to subscribe tonight.
Starting point is 00:28:55 All right. Everyone got their answers? Sure. Reveal them. Seth says wing. Anthony says heart. Steve says neck. Randall says neck. Corinne says wire.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Corey says liver. Brody says neck. The room got it. Question. The answer is. All right, liver. The room. The majority got it.
Starting point is 00:29:14 The majority got it. No. Steve Randlebride. Okay, that's fair. I said heart. That's not it. That's not right. Not you would say a
Starting point is 00:29:22 slight minority. Nate, does chest speak? A tiny of chicken heart does Chesapeake Bay magazine have anything else to tell us about this? I thought that. Oh, I'm about to tell you back. Yeah, please.
Starting point is 00:29:31 But not as difficult as a time. You'd be like, a slight minority got it. Successful chicken necking is accomplished. five steps. One, tie a chicken neck to some twine. Two, throw the chicken neck in the water, preferably in the Chesapeake Bay. Three, let the neck sit for at least five minutes. Four, slowly pull the chicken neck towards the surface of the water, ensuring eating, feeding crabs are not spooked off the bait. And five, once within range, scoop the crab off the chicken with a net.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Why do you got to wait five minutes if there's one on there after 30 seconds? You just don't know. It's always murky water. So it's tight, we did that chicken neck long lining for blue crabs? I was. That was that, yeah. You were at that? That was fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:12 You used that? Chicken neck long lining for crabs. Yeah, the way he was able to like scoop and run at the same time, that was impressive. We filled a basket. Tie throw, sit, pull scoop. There you go. It's a great time.
Starting point is 00:30:27 If you ever find yourself in that part of the country, just do it. Like in Maryland? Maryland. That's the spot. Chesapeake Bay. 301. What up? Question seven
Starting point is 00:30:39 Please There's about seven people Who appreciate that The protagonist Of this 2004 movie Claims he used a Frickin' 12 gauge To hunt Wolverines in Alaska
Starting point is 00:30:50 With his uncle If Randall's not writing it down The protagonist Of this 2004 movie Claims he used a Frickin 12 gauge To hunt Wolverines in Alaska With his uncle
Starting point is 00:31:06 wait in real life or the character the character like as the character the character I think I can get into your head on this one man I want to give a hint so bad no don't do you know it Randall I think so
Starting point is 00:31:25 I don't there's not a lot of context here to work with to be fair but I could add some no I wouldn't I think there's a thing any more context do you add a Nate would give it away. I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Spencer warned me not to do it and I want to do it. This film just celebrated its 20th anniversary two years ago. Easy no. That makes sense. Yeah, that's math.
Starting point is 00:31:49 If you remember what you were doing two years ago and what movies were celebrating their 20th anniversary. I'm going for a big old bullseye in this game. I want to do it, Phil. Yeah, his soul is.
Starting point is 00:32:03 No, no. Come on, Nate. Scratch you. Do it for a little Tony. Do it for the Joponis everywhere. All right, here we go. I just gave you a clue. Who gave you a clue?
Starting point is 00:32:13 I said the name of the actor. You have to listen real close. Not very loud. No. Don't do it. Don't do it. Oh, dude, I'm going to do it. No, it ain't.
Starting point is 00:32:22 You can't say you said the actor and then not say the actor again. I'm not giving the name the actor. I'm going to give you the clue. There's not a rule that you have to repeat what you're saying. A freaking 12 gauge. What do you think? Oh, Jesus. Oh.
Starting point is 00:32:38 It was too many. It was too much. Oh, oh. Oh, but you need his name? The actor's name? I'm so mad right now, Nate. This is, that's horrible. I just had to do it for the Dubrodi's answer.
Starting point is 00:32:50 That's horrible. I'll just keep it. Horrible, horrible, horrible. That's some of the worst hosting. I had a tropic thunder written down. Just, I was like trying to think, dude. Yeah, Nate, that was a bad call. You win some, you lose some.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Oh, my gosh. I didn't even write the movie. I just wrote the actor. You didn't have Tropic Thunderdown. No. I don't question mark. That was good.
Starting point is 00:33:13 That was good acting. Hold on. Thank you. I'm writing it down. That was my chance. I could do most of that movie. Good acting. That was my one thing.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Terrible hosting. Especially since you want me to play the clip after you finish the... I benefited in time. I think it was terrible. Like, I feel dirty. It was a bad impression, but it was enough. I thought it was good.
Starting point is 00:33:32 I thought it was a great answer. Thank you. Yeah. You should have just said it. John Heater. You know, like, the whole, like, dirty hands, all that, garbage, clean money and all that. No, I feel like I got dirty money. Mike, Conley found one of those hats floating in Holter, and he still wears it to this day.
Starting point is 00:33:47 All right, everyone show your answers. Seth says Napoleon Dynamite, Anthony Napoleon Dynamite, Steve, Randall, Corey. Imagine that. The whole point dynamite. Corinne wrote, Cheffie Chase. Oh, well. Corin did not get it. That guy seems to be struggling.
Starting point is 00:34:03 I somehow stumbled into him on social media You're sure that was him You probably stumbled in the guy who He's an imitation He's a guy who's impersonating him No Doing sports commentary He's like he's really still kind of hung up on that
Starting point is 00:34:18 No, it's him He's really still like I think that not a lot came after that for him Probably not Wait the actor Blades of Glory Blades of Glory Great movie
Starting point is 00:34:28 I've seen the bench warmers That terrible Rob Schneider Oh yeah Napoleon claims to shoot like 50 wolverines, which would represent approximately 10% of the total annual harvest of Alaskan Wolverines. Play the clip, Phil. Oh, geez. Okay,
Starting point is 00:34:41 sorry. What did you do on last summer again? I told you, I spent it with my uncle on Alaska hunting Wolverines. Did you shoot any? Yes, like 50 of them. They kept trying to attack my cousins. What the heck would you do in a situation like that? What kind of gun did you use? A freaking 12-gauge.
Starting point is 00:34:58 What do you think? It just doesn't hold up. It's such a good movie. hold up. I tried to show it to my kids. It just doesn't hold up. Do you think it's funny?
Starting point is 00:35:08 I did. When I saw it, I thought it's hilarious. You got to watch it. It doesn't hold up. It's funny. Not everything holds up. Nope. Question eight.
Starting point is 00:35:17 We'll get a scoreboard up. You know what else doesn't hold up? Teen Wolf. No. J. Foxx, right? You just tell he's not really a wolf. Question eight. Topics cooking.
Starting point is 00:35:31 According to Barbecue Champs Academy, this five-letter word refers to when the internal temperature of meat suddenly stops rising for several hours. What? Can you read it again? Oh, actually, I need to. Read it again, Nate.
Starting point is 00:35:48 According to Barbecue Champs Academy, this five-letter word refers to when the internal temperature of meat suddenly stops rising for several hours during a cook. I added that last little tidbit on there, I deleted it at one point. Five letters? Oh, that's six letters.
Starting point is 00:36:05 We'll hit the YouTube audience one more time. According to Barbecue Champs Academy, this five-letter word refers to when the internal temperature of meat suddenly stops rising for several hours during a cook. If I got this right, it's just going to be because of pure genius. It'll be because I just made it up. You know, like geniuses do.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Because I like, I thought it through and made it up. You're not a big smoker. Capital J. Listen, buddy. I'm listening. I've been smoking when you were shitting diapers. Sucking on your bombs. I just not familiar with Barbecue Champs Academy, perhaps.
Starting point is 00:36:57 They're out of Chesapeake Bay. They're out of South Carolina. columnist at Chesapeake Bay magazine, apparently. And I'm sure all respectable journalists, every one of them. Hmm. It's going to be. Randall has no answer. I consider that as success as a host.
Starting point is 00:37:27 You got one, Seth? I think I got it. I do. I do. What's your, Seth? I mean, look, I like a job. change my answer. What is
Starting point is 00:37:36 going on? It happens to be at high school again. When I show you what I got, I think you're going to like it better. Probably. Five letters? It makes sense. Mine makes sense at least.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Here, not as much sense as this. Does everyone have an answer? Basically the same thing. I know about it. Hold on. Break out the the thesaurus. Randall's seriously writing I'm not
Starting point is 00:38:10 seriously writing I just whatever Randall's flustered How about you tell the whole room this answer Are you still mad about Giving away the entire answer
Starting point is 00:38:20 To the room? Yes How many people got that After his impression Who would not have gotten it Yeah There you go I had traffic thunder down
Starting point is 00:38:27 Four contestants Were given an answer by me Who were all time for food the game. I had Ricky Bobby. Nice. I felt dirty.
Starting point is 00:38:38 All right. Everyone ready? Reveal your answers. Seth says level. Anthony says holds. Steve says bench. Randall says peaks. No, he says holds.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Didn't I say that? He said holds. He said singular hold. Corinne says question mark. Well, it's temper. But it's six letters. So that's wrong. Corey says rest.
Starting point is 00:38:59 And Brody says break. the correct answer is stall the stall is a thermodynamic phenomenon in low temperature what makes that five letters that's where I go to the bathroom the spelling T-A-L-L-O-
Starting point is 00:39:14 oh yeah yeah I thought you want to cut that out Phil can I keep my job if I don't yeah that's not how I was thinking about the stall Is a thermodynamic phenomenon in which low temperature meat cooking where the internal temperature of a cut plateaus, typically around 160 degrees Fahrenheit, and remains stagnant for several hours.
Starting point is 00:39:42 This is caused by evaporative cooling, a process in which the thermal energy provided by the heat source is offset by the energy consumed as moisture evaporates. Similar to perspiration, the moisture migrating from the muscle fibers to the surface creates a cooling effect. Dude, if any of y'all had ever smoked anything, you know what this is, because it's the most stressful time of your life. Steve had me Smok day that That is the score That is question 8 So give us a scoreboard update
Starting point is 00:40:11 Hey there we are Here we go after question 8 Oh holy cow Gren zero points Seth two points Anthony and Corey three points And tied up in first place Are Randall Brody
Starting point is 00:40:25 And yes Stephen Rinella With four points A piece They say the cream rises to the top Yeah the cream The cream would have been four to three to three to two to two to two. You did get screwed around once.
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Starting point is 00:42:15 Lenovo.com let creatives create. Lenovo, Lenovo. Question nine is gear. As of January 1st, 2025, California banned the use of first of first. chemicals in all new textiles and apparel. What is the four-letter acronym for this class of synthetic chemicals? I got it! I know Grin has this one, because she talks me about it all the time.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Yeah. This is a big part of my life. As of January 1st, 2025, California banned the use of forever chemicals in all new textiles and apparel. What is the four-letter acronym for this class of synthetic chemicals? Hmm. The whole room's got answers. Everyone got answers? All right, show them.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Seth says P-FAS. Anthony P-FAS. Everyone's got P-FAS. Good job. It's like we work in an apparel company. Purr and polyfluoracolil substances are chemicals used for their water, grease, and heat-resistant properties and many products like cookware, rain, gear, and firefighting foam. These chemicals break down very slowly, accumulate the environment, and are linked to increased risks of various health problems.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Interestingly, California has not banned the use of P-FAS and cooking. where. Interesting. That's like the one thing you want to, you want to ban on it. You'd think. Very interesting. What you got going over there on your phone?
Starting point is 00:43:43 Oh, it's got, you know when you get a text and says, what is this? And it's a video showing a bush. And there's something in the bush. It's just killing me. Okay. I'm not going to look right now.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Okay. It's killing me. All right. That's like trivia in real life. So we got to, because what is this? We could have a bonus drop where I send the video to Phil. Phil plays the video. It's a bonus trivia question.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Is that from your trail camera? What if it's like a naked guy? It looks like a Martin. Should we do that before or after question? I think we should question 10 first. We don't need to do that. Well, we need to do a correct answer review. Question one was Sounder.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Two was three. Three was Lion. Four was steadiness. Five, albatross. Six neck. Seven Napoleon Dynamite. Eight. Stahl.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Nine. P-Fass. And we'll get a scoreboard update. Oh, well, everyone got that question right. So the standings remain the same here. Everyone's just got one number higher than they had before. So we got Steve Brody and Randall with five and Anthony and Corey with four. All right.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Question 10. Natural history. You know that he intentionally withheld fishing questions from this episode? We had a fishing question. Which one? Yeah, from the Chesapeake Bay. Oh, come around. That was absolutely.
Starting point is 00:45:01 A far stretch. What else would it be? It's a fishing question. Chicken question. Listen, I don't like them either, but that was a fishing question. That's a crapp. It's a crabbin question. Question 10, natural history.
Starting point is 00:45:14 This type of animal was enlisted by Polish soldiers in World War II and is famous for carrying artillery shells at the Battle of Monte Cassino. Hmm. Carrying shells, huh? This type of animal was enlisted by Polish soldiers in World War II and is famous for carrying artillery shells at the Battle of Monte Casino. And if you think the answer is
Starting point is 00:45:38 whitetail deer, you just need to say deer. No one has put pen to board yet, I believe. No, I answered it, Phil. Oh, you did? You know this one? I think so. Pretty sure. Should I give a hint? No.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Yeah. Now, if it was Alexander the Great, I know what I'd be right. Just tell us the sound this animal makes. Mur. You don't have to say it. Nope. Is it a wild animal or a domestic animal?
Starting point is 00:46:02 No more hints. Sorry. Can you do one of your impersonations where you do like a, like you did for the other one? No. I've learned my lesson. That was a mistake. It's cool, Nate. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:46:13 This might still work out for me. Start the near off right, but I don't know. We'll see. Could go to a tiebreaker. I could lose outright. It's anybody's game still. Two Polish guys walk in a bar. go on some of this is the truth some of my best friends are Polish interesting
Starting point is 00:46:44 can you tell by the size of my nose that I also am you say that like we should be surprised no I was making an excuse because I was going to tell a Polish joke and then I felt like I should do what people do when they do that and they point out that some of my best friends. My dad would say, my wife's Polish before he told the joke. Oh, man. Am I holding everyone up?
Starting point is 00:47:18 No, you're good. You have that? I put an animal down. I don't know, but I'm looking forward to sharing how I came up with my answer. Me too. I'm just trying to remember the animal's name. If you remember the name, I'm pretty sure I have the first few syllables. What?
Starting point is 00:47:34 Like, he's got an actual name? Oh, yeah. It's a famous... Can we just get that on it? Is it one animal? Brody's still thinking? No, I'm not. You're done.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Everybody got their answers? All right, show them. Seth says ox. Anthony says dog. Steve says camel. Randall says brown bear. Oh. Corinne says ox.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Corey says camel. And Brody says bear. The correct answer. is bear. Was it a brown bear? It was a brown bear. What's its name? Originally purchased as a cub in Iran,
Starting point is 00:48:07 Vytec, the Syrian brown bear, was adopted and officially drafted into the 22nd artillery supply company to ensure he could receive rations and transportation during the Allied advance through Italy. Known for his love of beer and cigarettes, Voitek became a legitimate contributor to the war effort.
Starting point is 00:48:22 During the battle in Monte Cassino, he mimicked the Polish soldiers by carrying crates of artillery shells for resupply. Following the war, the bear was promoted to the rank of corporal and retired to the end. Edinburgh Zoo, where members of his unit continued to visit him. His legacy remains as the official emblem of the 22nd Company,
Starting point is 00:48:36 a bear carrying an artillery shell. Pretty bad ass. Show the picture. Oh, yes. Yeah, it's a tough bear. What? Look at that, man. That's AI.
Starting point is 00:48:44 It's not. It's real. No, there's pictures of smoking, too. There's so many good ones. Yeah, how does it smoke? He actually smokes. He's legit smokes. Yeah, he's drink beer.
Starting point is 00:48:52 He'd, like, wrestle with the guys. His unit members would sneak into the enclosure at the zoo and, like, run around and wrestle with them and stuff. you know why it's a great story why I wrote Camel because doesn't Monty Casino seemed like a dry desert place yes you follow it's a mountain place that's what I was thinking it's a great
Starting point is 00:49:09 if you guys ever in Italy go to Monte Casino it's great sounds lovely big lizards where was Monte Cassino yeah I got his name was that I got his name wrong Italy I said it was it was like Carol Wick or something yeah close enough yeah kind of dud end
Starting point is 00:49:25 huh well it's not the end because Randall and Brody are tied with six points a piece. He'll be in a tie breaker. Are you going to accept Baird?
Starting point is 00:49:33 I said, yep, I said the white tail deer thing. All right. Timebreaker. Everyone gets to play because if someone hits it
Starting point is 00:49:45 right on the nose, we had an extra $100. It's a number. Okay. It's always a number. Yeah, I forgot. Sorry, this isn't my day job. It's not a day job.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Numbers got. His day job. But the only answers that really matter are Randall and Brody. The correct answer or sorry, sorry, the category. Oh, whoa. That's like Jeopardy. I wasn't prepared. That would be a fatal mistake
Starting point is 00:50:12 at this point of the game. I got back up somewhere. The category is conservation. According to the National Wilderness Institute, what percent of Ohio is considered to be public land? Oh. Huh. Go to two decimal places. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Anybody hear from Ohio? Come on, you got an Ohio resident. It ain't much. Not an Ohio resident for many, many years. Yeah, still. You're from Pennsylvania. It's next door. Yeah, we didn't go over.
Starting point is 00:50:39 And Erie, too. You could, like, throw a rock and hit Ohio. We didn't go over across the border into that state. According to the National Wilderness Institute, what percent of Ohio is considered public land? Two decimal places. geez is he saying this
Starting point is 00:51:02 about the decimal places just like throw everybody off is that by the hundred is that what you mean less chance of a another tie I think
Starting point is 00:51:10 oh yeah yeah yeah hmm let's go good question thanks bud
Starting point is 00:51:21 Boy, it would really take the wind out of my sales if I lost on this question, especially considering earlier injustices. But if he won, it'd be like more of a triumph story. Yeah, yeah. It'd be like a karate kid or whatever, you know, like someone does like a dirty play, right? You know, dirty hit or trick, right? But then you beat them anyway. Or like you're running a race and you get tripped.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Yeah. But then in the end you win anyway. Yeah. That'd be like Randall. Indeed. Yeah. Or... Or maybe the cheater will win.
Starting point is 00:52:05 But then we just run the same race the next week and the next week and the next week and the next week. And it soon forgot in this long string of games. Except by you. Two decimal points. I didn't hear that. That makes me root for Randall, man. Just that little narrative. I thought, but I kind of like a different,
Starting point is 00:52:22 I like more of a Cormac McCarthyan narrative where the good guy doesn't win. Yeah. The bad guy wins. Life's not fair. And Brody's the bad guy. I actually thought winning on that last question would have been really special
Starting point is 00:52:33 because I love that bear. It's a great bear. And I don't feel like Brody even knew what it was. He just said bear. There's no way he just wrote bear down for no reason. Did you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:47 That's exactly. That was a guess. That's exactly what you did. I think bear and moose and picked a bear. And pick a bear. No way. Well, hey, some people just got it. Guessing's a skill, man.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Show your answers. Set 4.21. Anthony, 12.69. Steve, 3.00. Corinne, 8.12. Corey, 2.67. Brody. And the two players that matter.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Brody, 7.31. And Randall, 4.73. Whoa. We have an answer within 0.08. No. Brody. The correct answer is 2.59% making Randall our winner. Corey was 0.08% off.
Starting point is 00:53:36 That's really good, Corey. Wow. That's really good. Thank you. The dearth of Ohio public land is a direct result of state's history as the initial site for the land ordinance of 1785. Following the Revolutionary War, the U.S. government used the Ohio County to settle national debts, selling the landscape to private citizens and speculators.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Unlike the West, where vast tracts have remained in public domain, nearly every acre of Ohio was gridden the public land survey system and privatized before the concept of public land existed. Phil, do you have a way to sort of codify that I beat Randall and Brody on the bonus question? Is that captured somewhere? I think now it is. Whichever one of our listeners runs like the trivia Wikipedia page or whatever, I'm they've got an account of it. It's going to live online. So you can capture that somehow.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Yeah. You came behind Corey. Like an asterisk or something. I don't know. Sure. I could take care of it. Just let me know when I can celebrate my win, Steve. I'll call the trophy. Randall you won! Thank you. Thank you. Oh, it feels good. It's been a real
Starting point is 00:54:36 dark period in my trivia life. So happy to be on top. And it's a well-hosted game except for question seven. I'd like to donate this. My winnings, actually, to Ohio BHA. So they can buy some more public land? Yeah, they do a lot of important work with creating access.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Yeah, creating new public land. So it's overdue. I know they had a big project going that had a, they needed to get a certain amount of funds by the end of the year. So I've failed them in securing that winning before that deadline. But hopefully this can go to good use. Hey, Anthony, you're part of financial planning, right? Do you think we might be able to throw in like an annual subscription to Chesapeake Bay
Starting point is 00:55:17 magazine in there? well certainly cool excellent page ad well I don't really know what say you know no no I think we should just I think we should just go around the room I thought it I thought it was fun around the room and talk about how we felt it went I thought it was good Nate yeah we call this an after-action review in the business as a hot wash yeah yeah well last night you know like let's say you're watching a football game yeah and afterward they go up and they want to talk to the coach and the quarterback of the losing team or the winning team went
Starting point is 00:55:47 Yeah, well, yeah. Because you'd be the losing team. Let's say you did, like, you did a quick interview with a loser, for instance, you know. I'd be happy to. All right, Steve. How are you feeling right now? Tough loss. You caused it all by yourself.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Well, I did beat, on the bonus question, I did beat the two winners. Oh. Tell us about that. Well, if you think about it, it would have tied me up for the win if it was out of order. Yeah. Same. That's a great thought. Mm-hmm. Unfortunately, that's not how games are played.
Starting point is 00:56:20 You lost. Now let's cut over to the real winner, Randall. What are your thoughts? I mean, it's not easy to sit in that chair as the host of this whole event. There's a lot of personalities in the room. You know, you've got a lot to read. You've got a lot to keep track of. Ultimately, I think you did a great job.
Starting point is 00:56:43 I think we can take the tape and look for areas for improvement for next time but um you know you come out here with the right attitude and i think you can walk away with your head held high i thought you were going to talk about your performance oh no i won you can base his performance on the shade of red on his face and it's not super red so it's got it's gotten a lot less red yeah yeah no i feel i feel good i feel good it's it's like i said we've had a rough couple months uh on the randall team team ral i was supposed to wear my randomal shirt um that'll come next time but you know you just got to keep playing keep swinging and uh eventually you'll connect and you can find your winning ways so wise words yeah thanks for joining media
Starting point is 00:57:31 trivia the only game show or conservation always wins thanks for hosting Nate thank you some of us do a lot of swinging yeah spencer from south Dakota he's the host using those smooth mellow tones he lays them questions down and he likes taking those two and three-year-old bucks and he's an avid amateur rock hound every Lenovo is built to let them move
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