The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 830: Game On, Suckers! MeatEater Trivia CCII

Episode Date: February 4, 2026

Spencer Neuharth hosts MeatEater Trivia with Doug Duren, Janis Putelis, Randall Williams, Seth Morris, Hanzi Deschermeier, and Reva Hansen. Connect with MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and YouTube Clips Subscribe to MeatEater Podcast Network on YouTube Shop Trivia MerchSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Business Goes Pro with Lenovo Pro. Sign up for free at Lenovo.com slash pro. Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. I'm your host, Spencer Newhart, and today we're joined by Janice, Randall, Seth, Riva, Hansi, and Doug Duren. This is a 10-round quiz show with questions from Meat Eaters' Four Verticles, which are hunting, fishing, fishing, and cooking. There is a prize. Meadeter will donate $500 to the Conservation Organization of the Winners Choosing.

Now, here's a stat for you, Doug. You have made more guest appearances than anyone else. immediate trivia history. So welcome back. Congrats, Doug. Again. But that's not like it's that many. Well, it's your third or fourth time, I think, on the show.

Really? Yeah. All I know is I suck at it. So. You played trivia way back in the old studio, Studio 1.0. I remember you in a Heffinger were there together. That's right. Oh, that's right.

It was really hot in there. Yeah, this room does the same thing. Jim had all the answers. And for those that don't know, Doug's, is sings and composed the theme music. music for this year show. Oh, and the last time I was here, I added a verse at the end that I am proud to say, this is getting played at the end all the time. Yep.

With, complete with Randall's gaffaw when I said he likes to kill those two and three-year-old bucks. That doesn't sound like me. Doug was in Studio 1.0. He's now played in 2.0. We got a 3.0 that's being worked on. We'll have you back then. Are we allowed to talk about that? Yeah, we are. Yeah. If we talk about it, then it has to happen. I don't know. Grand Reveals are fun. We're going to talk about it all the time.

Steve, Steve did call me yesterday trying to drastically change the plans for you. If you want to know how it's going after hours. Now, Doug has some news to share about sharing the land. Doug, what do you have for us? So three years ago, four years ago, a couple of friends of mine and I started experimenting with an idea, I tried to prove this concept that was built off of Elder Leopold Rye the Game Cooperative in that, Leopold and some buddies did conservation work on a farmer's property in exchange for access to that property.

And the conservation work they did, much of it is still there. It's really kind of a cool place to go and visit. It's called the Rylea Game Cooperative. About the same time I met Steve Ronella, I was doing a bicycle trip out in that area, saw the sign, and it inspired me to eventually come up with this idea, just really stealing Leopold's idea, to start a private land access initiative. That's as old as time, right, that you trade work for access.

But what we try to do is expand it to be mostly about conservation and making a contribution to conservation somewhere. And I'm proud to say that in our third year, we just became, or beginning of our fourth year now, a nonprofit, and we have 53 properties in 15 states. And as you might imagine, we have a lot of demand and not as much supply. So we're always looking for landowners, and that's the mission now. So we became a nonprofit organization.

And as such, I would just like, y'all to keep that in mind. Yeah, twist some arms, Doug. Settle, Doug. So I'd like to think that I would win, but also having not done very well at this. So I'm just putting it all in your heads that sharing the land would be a worthy, worthy. What would you do with $500 if somebody won today and gave that money to sharing the land? Well, we have some website development that needs to be done. That's the place where we're going to be putting some things.

But the other part is, as I said, we're trying to recruit more landowners, especially in states where we have a lot of access seekers. So traveling to those, it'll help us to pay, like, entry fees to get into, you know, like a landowner gathering or a trade show or something like that. Yeah. I've seen polling before that access to places to hunt and fish is the number one limiting factor for folks. So a worthy cause that you're doing there, Doug. Let's see if we can get some money over there today. What's happening on the Duren Farm these days? Give us an update.

Wow. Well, speaking of projects that some of my access seekers are helping with us, helping us with. Like Janus, I'm doing a savannah restoration on our project, which we're creating more grassland, which is great for turkeys, as I was telling Seth earlier. You know, the white-tailed deer don't really seem to need any help from us at all. I'm interested in the grasslands. I know Yaddi just can't stand it when I say that. But I like grassland birds.

I like grassland species. I like diversity. And so we're, you know, restoring native habitats. And that's, and it's been really fun to have people there helping us with it, who are learning about it and making that kind of contribution to conservation. No calving these days, though. Those days are behind you. I don't have any cattle anymore.

Would you normally be like in the center of calving season right now? No, when we, when I had cattle, I would wait until March April. Okay. Yeah. So you don't miss it. You know, I miss having cattle in the summer because they look so nice out there, but I don't miss them in the winter when you gotta go out there when it's freezing cold and deal with them. Given your, your headware today, there's, it's right for a joke.

All hat. No cattle. That's good. What do you do at a meat eater HQ? this week. I'm sorry. What are you doing a meat eater

HQ? How do we get you in Bozeman? Um, well, today I work with Janice and, uh, the crew on a meat eater

roasts that Seth and, uh, Chris Gill were involved with and it was great fun. Um, yesterday I was on Steve's podcast and I didn't really contribute much. It was a screw worm, screw worm expert.

And I just kind of felt like I was the dumb guy in the corner saying things like, That's interesting. You should do that today for us as well. Whenever we reveal an answer. That's interesting. I'm hoping I can get a couple right. I'm just hoping I can beat the Shelby Index.

There you go. And then tomorrow we're doing another roast. Wow. That's right. We're putting Doug through the car wash here. Great fun. Me Deeter HQ. Are we have some housekeeping to get to before we play trivia.

The fourth annual Meat Deeder trivia tournament returns next week. Steve, Brody, Randall, and Janus will be competing for the title of Me Deeder Trivia champion. The tournament will be 30 questions across three episodes. Doug, give us a prediction for who will win the whole thing. Steve, Brody, Randall, Janice. I'm torn between Brody and Randall. Okay.

I like that. I'd say it's a toss up there. All right. No, Steve, though. No, that's for the show. He's just going to, you know, he's going to try to bend all. He'll bend answers to him. Yes, he will.

And I like that you stand strong. against that. Yanis, on the other hand, I think, is the dark horse thing. Okay. Very dark horse. He's been hot lately. We'll see how he does today. All right, the Shelby Index for today is a four, so our winners should get eight correct answers. And with that, we're on to the game of trivia.

Play the drop, Phil. Look, I need to know what I stand to win. Everything. How's that? Just tend to win everything. Suckers! Question one, the topic is public lands, and this will be multiple choice. Angels Landing is the most famous hike in this national park.

Is it Yosemite, Great Smoky Mountains, Grand Canyon, or Zion? And Doug, the question is on the screen behind you there. You'd rather see it than hear it. Angels Landing is the most famous hike in this national park. Yosemite, Great Smoky Mountains, Grand. Canyon, or Zion. Randall didn't even need choices there. He had his answer locked in.

I'm second guessing myself. Okay. It's a good question. I like the question. Thank you, Yanni. Did you come up with it? I came up with that. Angels Landing is the most famous hike in this national park.

Yosemite, great smoky mountains, Grand Canyon, Zion. I've got it narrowed down to two. Okay. Looks like Randall is the only one who knew the answer. Do you like your answer? I think I've got it. Okay. Did you know this one

without the choices? I had to run through some similar area. You'd have gotten there. Yeah. Okay. Angels Landing, the most famous hike

in this park. Your four choices. Yosemite, Great Smoky Mountains, Grand Canyon, Zion. Have you been there, Spencer? We could talk about it afterwards.

Yonis, do you have your answer? No. Do I need to have a answer? one already? I think we're waiting on you. Yosemite Great Smoky Mountains, Grand Canyon, Zion. It's got to narrow down to two of them. Oh, gosh, it's so hard when you don't actually know it.

Better pick one. I feel like it's easy when you don't know it. There's two types of people, Seth. Yonis? Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says the Grand Canyon. Janice, Grand Canyon. Randall and Hansi and Rifa and Doug say Zion.

They got it. The correct answer. Zion National Park. Do you want a little secret to my success? Yeah. What is it? If you don't know the answer, letter C or the third choice. Oh, well, that was the fourth choice.

So you didn't even listen to you. That's the route I took. See, I'm looking at the shoulder. Angels Landing is a 5.4 mile round trip hike that gains about 1,500 feet in elevation. It's so popular that you're required to enter a lottery to draw a permit to do the hike. It's one of the deadliest trails in the National Park System with 13 deaths on the hike since the year 2004. Most occurred during the last half mile where hikers hold on to a metal chain as they follow a knife edge ridge. I have been to Zion National Park.

I haven't done this hike. I would say Zion is one of the most overrated parks because to see most of it, you have to get on a shuttle. And that's where I draw the line. You're seeing a national park. It feels like an amusement park at that point. Way over visiting. Like it's one of the places that has been destroyed by the Instagram age.

Yeah. There are like flagship national parks. I would say all four of them in your choices there were part of the flagship parks. And Zion is one of them. You got to be willing to like get on a shuttle bus and just be. shoulder to shoulder with people. Not an experience that I wanted to do, so I did not do this hike. It's cool if you're

a climber. What's the question? I might have the word wrong. No, you're right. Verata? Is that the right word? Via ferrata. It's close. The iron way. It's mostly like not, no like cables or anything like that landing. Last half mile, though. You can hold onto that chain and that's where 13 people have bawled and died. Question two, the topic is

fishing. This is our listener. Questioner. the week, which was won by Murphy Shaw for sending this great question. Murphy is going to get a board game signed by the crew. If you want a chance to win our listener question of the week, then send your question to trivia at the meat eater.com. The topic is fishing. Bass Pro says this contraption, which helps your boat on, which helps position your boat on windy days, looks like, quote, a huge ice cream cone with the small end cutout. Randall, the only player to answer so far, Bass Pro says this contraption, which helps position your boat on windy days, looks like, quote, a huge ice cream cone with the small end cutout. This could be a zero percenter.

Gosh, I know it. I know I've used them, but I don't know if I know the name of the contraption. You can picture it. You've touched one maybe. Seth now has his answer. Seth, do you have this right? I mean, I know what it is, but I don't know what the technical. term is.

Do you have one of these in your boat right now? No. No. Best Pro says this contraption, which helps position your boat on windy days, looks like a huge ice cream cone with the small end cut out. It's a good question. Good question, but we may stump all six players. I have two options that I'm.

Contraption which helps position your boat on windy days looks like a huge ice cream cone with the small end cut out. Seth, did you look at Yanni's. answer. I did. Do you agree with him? It's not what I have down. Okay. But he might be right. Do you like what he has now? Oh, boy. Um, or do you like yours better? I don't think it's a bad answer what he has written down. Okay. Seth refers his answer. I feel, yeah. I'm not going to say anything.

Randall, do you like your answer? Um, sort of. Okay. Doug, do you have this one right? I have an answer. Okay. This might be one of those, uh, that's interesting. Well, you know, trying to, since C wasn't an option this time. Bassboro says this contraption, which helps position your boat on windy days, looks like a huge ice cream cone with the small end cut out. Is everybody ready? Yeah. Yannis?

Come on, Yanni. He's changing his answer that Seth didn't like. Yeah, I'm just going to choose one of the two that I have. Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says, Drift. Bag. Janice says wind anchor. Randall says drift anchor. Hansi says wind anchor. Reva says airstream flag thing. And Doug says cone drag. The correct answer is drift sock or drift anchor. Now, Randall is the only one, I think, who had the answers that I revealed. Janice, what did you say?

Wind anchor. I don't think we're going to give you that. Seth, what did you have? Drift bag. Drift bag. That one is closer. Google it. I will Google drift bag and see what that comes up with. Cone drag. Why don't you Google Cone drag?

We're not going to give you. Come on. What was the action? Well, I think we'll give you drift bag because I'm seeing results here that call them drift socks or trolling bags. So I think we'll give you drift bag. But nothing about wind anchors. Wind anchor.

You know what? I'll Google that as well. Wait a minute. What would you like, Doug? I had half of it, right? drag. So conned drag. Wind anchor, I'm not getting anything at all. Besides things for tents, it looks like.

So we'll give it to Seth. He snocking there. Randall had both. Not a good start, Reeva. I wanted to say wind anchor, but since wind was in the question, that's what tipped my hand. A drift sock can be used with a trolling motor or on its own. Its purpose is to slow down your boat for moving too fast with the current or wind. Drift Sox are parachute shaped and attached to your boat with a harness.

They are especially popular among walleye, bass, and catfish anglers. They were. Now, why in the world would you know that, Randall? Or did you just put that together in your brilliant mind? No, I mean, I know what it is, and that for whatever reason, that's the name that came to me. I knew it was a type of anchor. Drip sock or drift anchor. And then because there's wind in the question, always skeptical of repeating a word from the question.

Seth, why don't you think they're popular anymore? Because the spot lock, some folks don't need it. Yeah, new technology with trolling motors and stuff. No one uses it. I've never seen anyone use them before. I've been using them my whole life. Really?

I haven't had a spot lock on my boats. If Spencer had written on breezy days, I would have gone with wind anchor, I think. So tell me what a spot lock is. So most trolley motors these days have a thing called spot lock where you get to the spot and you hit, and you hit a button and it anchors you there based off a GPS. So it'll, the trolling motor will move to keep you in one spot.

Yeah. And it'll adjust. So if the wind goes from five mile an hour to 20 mile per hour, recognize that and keep you there. Yeah. There's no championship league for small business owners. But if there was, you'd be at the top of the standings. Because going pro with Lenovo Pro means you've got the winning formation.

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this falcon is the world's fastest animal Doug quickly going to his whiteboard this time Randall already has his answer Yanni and Seth are joining them How do we spell this? This falcon is the world's fastest animal This is question three Doug you have this one right

I think I do I'm confident but I also often have false confidence When Seth questioned how to spell it, did that help you think? Do you then be like, oh, okay. Yeah. This falcon.

Should there be two Fs or four? This falcon is the world's fastest animal. Hansi, do you have this one right? I don't know. I'm not super confident. Did you ever ski Beaver Creek, Hansi? Yeah, I skied the downhill. I don't know.

That's Super G, actually, not the downhill. Oh, when you're racing days. Yeah. You know, Jennifer used to groom that. scary soccer. It's wild. When we showed up to like just because you've slipped the course, you know, there was the starting ref and like the course workers were, the two were roped up and in crampons

next to the starting gate, which is like really intimidating to begin with. But then one of the coaches went out and, of course, the coaches don't sharpen their skis. And he fell and slid for like half a mile. Oh, yeah. And it was like, I'm surprised that you could even slip. that upper section. Well, I mean, you just turn them sideways and go. I mean, slipping.

Yeah, use your edges, man. The reason, you're right. The reason this came up is because that whole area of Beaver Creek is all named after birds of prey. Oh. And that course is the birds of prey downhill course. Oh, good tie in.

And all of the runs around are all named after, you know, different birds of prey. Do you recall this one? Yes. It is. I recall the name, but I'm trying to right now figure out which exact run it was. They had a cool thing called the Talens Challenge. And it was a great event where you would ski. And they were all bump runs and long bump runs, like multiple thousand feet bump runs.

And you had to ski every single run at the end of it. You got like a beer and a hot dog. And the hat said Talons Challenge finishers. We'll see if that mountain helped I get this one right. Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your end. answer, Seth says... Paraguine falcons.

Yachtin says, Peregrine, says, Peregrine, Randall, and Hansi. I'm not embarrassing myself. Riva says the flash Doug, Peregrine Falcon. They got it. I'm an idiot. It's a Peregrine falcon.

Paragree falcons are found across the globe from Alaska to Africa to Australia. These birds can reach 60 miles per hour during normal flight and 240 miles per hour during a hunting dive. Their quickness is thanks to the perfect aerodynamic design and specialized respiratory system, which allows them to breathe at speeds that would rupture the air sac of most birds.

Does anybody know what that little hawk or falcon is that lives around our office building that was eating that pigeon the other day? A little kestrel. They're like the babiest of the round. It was very common. Oh, yeah. Got killed? It was dead in the tree out back.

And Nate told me that he got killed. What happened? I don't know. Nobody did an e-cropsy on it. No. FWP cam, we got it. Oh, they did? Yeah.

Hmm. Hmm. They lived outside my office window for like two weeks. It was really a great horn doll? What kind of owl was it? I think it was a great horned out, yeah. One of my chickens got killed too. Hmm.

By cow's dog? On Monday. No, this is the first mystery killing. Okay. One by Cal's dog, one by my own hand. And then this third one, we don't know. But she gets some trail cameras up. Who were the suspects?

Well, I don't know. It was chewed up. It was eaten. Yeah. The top suspect always has to be a spouse, so your wife is on the list. No, she was horrified by this. Oh, well, she said there were. Could be an ad.

Good covers. She said there were vultures in the air. Oh, a convenient story. And she googled whether vultures will actually kill a chicken versus just scavenging on it. And apparently they're known to do that. I can't attest to the grass. of those claims, but that would shock me. That's what the internet told her.

And I have nothing else to go on, Spencer. Okay. Cats. What was eating on it? Like, was the head eaten off of it? Or? From the, the guts, basically.

From like the ribs back to the uni hole. Okay. I'm thinking Sydney. Question four. Do you ever get emails that there's too much in,

what's the word? Interstitial? Just, uh, banter? No, I think folks, it would be the other way. They would rather us have like a 45-minute episode than a 32-minute episode.

There's no one that just is coming here just for the trivia. I mean, probably are, but they don't write in. I don't think they're too annoyed yet. Question four, the topic is hunting. Well, we're only on question four. They're about to be. This home improvement store where customers, quote, save big

money, sells kits that allow you to build your own four by eight or six-by-six hunting blind. Save big money is in quotation. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. The jingle just went off in my head. The way they write it is that big is all capital letters. This home improvement store where customers save big money sells kits that allow you to build your own four by eight or six by six hunting. My dad's, it depends on where you're from. Oh, really? Yeah, it's a very regional.

It's a very regional. It's a very regional about. Doug is confident Reva very confident Yanni and Randall have it What is the extent of these Like the footprint of these stores Anybody know? Oh it well I may give it away if I say

But I do look ahead of time Because I don't want to make a question that's just like Yeah in two states or something like that This one has a bigger footprint than that Okay This home improvement store where customers save big money sells kits that allow you to build your own 4x8 or 6x hunting blind. This may be a 6 for 6 question.

Is everybody ready? I don't know. Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth says Fleet Farm, Janice and Randall and Hansi and Riva and Doug say Menards. They got it. The correct answer. Say big money at Menards. Is Menards.

Never heard that. And they stretch from Wyoming to West Virginia. Wow. stores and then obviously going further south and north. I think they started in Minnesota and Wisconsin. Started in Wisconsin, that's right. The 4x8 ground blind kit cost $900, while the 6x-by-6 elevated blind kit costs $1,000. Hailing from Wisconsin, Menards is best known for their mail-in rebates and catchy jingle.

Phil, please play that sweet banjo music. I think you just sold some online. Flaming electrical appliances to. I haven't heard this part before. Come right back to you. You'll save big money. You'll save big money. When you shop Menards.

So hard to resist singing along. It's hard to resist a banjo. Was this something that you heard like when you're growing up? Well, I grew up in Menard's country. And some of my first tree stands I bought were from Menards because they sold a $35 tree stand. And it was a $35 tree stand. So I was familiar that they had.

had a hunting section. They didn't sell these ground blankets where I live, not that I would have bought one, but I'm familiar with Menards and their outdoor offering. I just remember when I was in college in Chicago, just sitting on the couch late at night, having a few cold ones, and the Menards jingle would come on

and would all just sing it as impassioned, like the most impassioned. Was it the entire jingle? Because all I remember is like at the tail end of a commercial. Save big money at Monarch. And did they say today at the end of that? I don't remember. I mean, all I remember.

They also had a holiday jingle. That's the, uh, the Z 600 Empire today. Oh, yeah. Bill is showing us photos of these ground blinds. So that's the six by six one and that one's $900. And then, uh, there's the elevated one, the four by eight. That's $1,000. It's pretty nice.

There are not insulated, no windows. Yeah. So there are countless people building them now. And actually, one of my sharing land sponsors is a blind company also. Okay. So you've got a few permanent blinds on the farm. Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

We have a big one that Cal came and hunted. And it's a really beautiful blind, 04 of the doors, the nicest blind I've ever had. And Cal had this rifle that I was given. And I didn't know what I was going to do. He said, I'll tell you what you do with that. rifle Douglas. You take it up there. You put that in that office of yours. Because I have two office chairs in it. I mean, it is a ridiculous place to go hunting. But it's a good spot. There you go. No Menard specials on the floor, though.

Question five. The topic is conservation. The Oklahoma Department of Wildlife defines blank habitat as, quote, the transitional zone between two habitats, like where grassland meets forest. Seth and Randall already have their answers. Yanni's texting. Okay, Doug is joining them. The Oklahoma Department of Wildlife defines blank habitat as the transitional zone between two habitats, like where grassland meets forest. Boy, do I have some flavor text. Okay.

Have you made this type of habitat on your farm? Okay. Riva, who knew Menards, because she grew up in Menard. Menard's country does not have this one. Doug, he grew up in Menard's country. Seth, you're not, you weren't in Menards. No, I didn't, no, I'd never heard that jingle before. I don't think I've ever heard the jingle.

Nope. Wow. You're welcome. I don't think I've ever been in the Menards. Okay, wow. So you said farm and fleet, and there's another one called Fleet Farm. I said Fleet Farm. He said Fleet Farm. The way, the way you lit up made me think it might have been Fleet Farm, because

that's your, that's in your neck of the woods, right? Yeah, but you save, uh, Oh my gosh, now I've got the jingles mixed up. You find value at farm and flea. There's Mills Fleet Farm, there's Blair's. I don't know whether or not to save big money or find value. Tough choice. That's good, Phil.

Randall, you grew up in Menard's country. No, I don't think I'd ever heard of Menards until I went to, until I was living in Chicago. I bet Ohio has like a dozen. They might have, but that might have been encroachment. It might have been encroachment since I left there. the early 2000s. I don't know that Pennsylvania has one. I don't think they do.

I was looking at the map. They were awful close to the Pennsylvania border. West Virginia had a view. All right again, we're on question five. The Oklahoma Department of Wildlife defines blank habitat as the transitional zone between two habitats, like where grassland meets forest. Is everybody ready? Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth and Yanni and Randall and Hansi say edge.

Riva says ideal. I don't like that. I don't have a like that. It's not wrong. I know. The correct answer is edge habitat or ecotone. Edge habitat is so important because these areas contain a greater abundance and greater diversity of wildlife.

This is true for most animals from big game to insects. Now, the Leopold was one of the first to notice this trend, writing in 1933, that, quote, the variety and density of life is often the greatest along edges. Doug, give me some examples of edge. habitat on the Duren farm. We do some what's called feather edge work where we will go along the

edge of a field where it's transitioning from the field or the CRP into the woods and rather when we when we farmed it you kept those edges rolled so it was like an L and what you're trying to do is create a more of a

the long side of a triangle a slope and so you go in and cut you know, like elm or ironwood and just drop it into the edge of the field. And then allow the brush and whatnot to come up in there. And that's it. We have a lot of that actually around the edges of the fields. When I was writing this question last night and then researching it, the feather edge

that you talked about there where you trim, you know, like thin out some of the forest. That was the textbook example of the best, you know, edge habitat work you can do. Yanni, is that what you got going on in your place? I don't have, like, our place is all woods. So you really got to take out some woods if you want to make edge habitat. But Craig Harper, who's probably my favorite, I guess ecologist is maybe what you call him. I highly recommend anybody looking to get into management to read Craig's stuff. But he makes the point, I think it's a great point.

It really changed how I looked at Habitat in general and Edge Habitat. is he's like, look, the only reason it's like edge habitat is because you have two different habitats that come together. And then you're saying, oh, well, I really like the habitat where they come together. You can have that same type of habitat over a greater area. It doesn't just have to be that one edge if that makes sense. And it's really all about controlling sunlight. And so, you know, the quail or the rabbit or whatever that live along that edge,

they don't want to be out in the middle of the field. maybe it's the grass is too thick there's not enough you know cover from avian predators and then if you go into the woods it there's no grass there's nothing you know at ground level because it's just open canopy up above and so he really challenges I think people to look at it to like hey take edge habitat but make edge habitat just be everywhere make that be your main habitat instead of just having it along the edges so like with the work that you're doing you're creating pockets within your wooded land right they're more open and as a result you've got

smaller you have brush and grass and all that. So uneven silviculture is one of the... I think a mosaic is a good description. Phil, we're halfway through

the game of trivia. Give us a scoreboard update. Anybody's game. Riva. It has two points. Not too far behind, Riva. Seth and Janus are tied up

with three. Doug and Hansi are tied up with four and with a perfect game at halftime. It's Randall Williams. Probably grateful that Brody is not here today. Could be a thousand dollars. I really enjoy. I really enjoy scheduling games of trivia for

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at the Safari Club International Convention. Even when we were hunting, we're like, man, we should do a presentation about our time in Africa at SCI. So we're doing that. This is February 19th, Safari Club International Convention in Nashville. We're going to do two things. From 930 to 1030, we're going to do a meet and greet at the Robin Hertz Safari's booth. Our actual events at 2 o'clock in the Omni Ballroom. After the event, I'll be happy to sign any books or take pictures, whatever's on your mind if you come on down.

So you get tickets, you've got to go to the Safari Club International. website and get a ticket to the convention. Once you do that, you're prompted to go get a ticket to our event. All the ticket price goes to SCI. It's a nonprofit conservation group. All ticket prices go to SCI. They don't go to Mia Morgan. But we're going to be there.

Guaranteed laughs. Come check it out. Can't wait to see you. February 19, Nashville Safari Club International Convention. Question six, the topic is wildlife. This next great question is via Sam Ribel. This 16-letter word is defined as, quote, the attribution of human characteristics or behavior to a god, animal, or object.

I just wrote a trivia question. Oh. Should I say this? No, I'm not going to say it because I want it to be surprised. Randall is counting his letters. This 16-letter word, this may be the longest answer we've ever had. I was about to ask, yeah. Is defined as the attribution of human characteristics or,

behavior to a god, animal, or object. Randall, you have this one right? Boy, I hope so, Spencer. Hansa, you got 16 letters down there? Yeah, yeah, I think I got it. Doug is also counting. Oh, no. Oh, oh.

15. Okay, well, maybe you misspelled something. Wait a minute, I have too many. You can give one of your letters to Riva, and then you guys will have it. This 16-letter word is defined as. the attribution of human characteristics or behavior to a god, animal, or object. I actually couldn't read my own handwriting well enough to count mine. So I'm just going off my god.

Okay, you're just confident. Yeah, I was trying to distinguish. Is that a, and I just said, whatever. Janice, how you doing? I'm pretty sure I have the right answer, but it's one letter short. I don't know how many 16 letter words exist out there. So if you're close, I bet you have it, Riva. Yanni.

I'm literally writing, okay? Give me a break. It's 16 letters. Spelling's going to, I mean, so you're going to have to have the spelling correct. You don't have to have it correct. As long as you have 16 letters? That's right. Well, you can even have 15 letters and we'll call it close enough.

Maybe I ought to try a third. I have two spellings. Maybe I had to try a third. This is not a spelling bee, but I think when we get in that new studio, we're going to have a spelling bee someday. Oh, great. With our trivia players. See how they do.

Count me out for that one. Maybe we'll have a jabroney team of spellers. I don't even want to be a part of that. Yanni, you still stuck on 15? Not going to hold it against you if you only got 15 letters. But it probably won't. You wouldn't win the media spelling bee, though. This 16-letter word is defined as the attribution of human.

in characteristics or behavior to a god, animal, or object. I can't stop you on it. I'm just going to go with the spelling's close. One letter, too many or two less. Throw an S on the end. That's what I do, Doug. No shame to it. I thought about putting the S on the end.

Yonnis. I'm guessing there's one I need to double somewhere. Oh my gosh. Now I have two answers. It's one of those 16 letters. I'm not going to be punished for having two different. Well, you got to have one answer locked in. If you flip over that one.

whiteboard and you have two answers Doug you're going to get it wrong unless they add up to 16 letters together Yanni has picked his word Doug do you have your answer close enough for country dancing go ahead and reveal your answers set says anthropomorphize Janus anthropomorphize uh Randall anthropomorphism hansy anthropomorphism Riva personification Douglas anthropomorphize. The correct answer is anthropomorphism. If you said

anthropomorphize, we'll give that to you as well. Some creative spellings in the room. Those 16 letters. A-N-T-H-R-O-P-O-M-R-P-H-I-S-M. Anybody have that right on? Yes. Both of those guys did. See, I actually wrote the question

literally yesterday with anthropomorphization. and it was 20 letters. Wow. Yeah. But I guess I won't be using that one. Anthropomorphism can be applied to fictional animals like the teenage mutant ninja turtles or smoky bear. And real animals like wolves in Yellowstone or the big giant bucks on Doug's farm. Anthropomorphism is a part of being human with anthropologists saying we've done this for 40,000 years as evidenced by ancient statues and cave art that depict animals with human-like qualities.

Doug, give me an example of some... Hold on. Personification, which I also had and Riva had, is the attribution of a personal nature or human characteristic to something non-human. Is it 16 letters? Or the representation of an abstract quality in human form. No, it's 15. Oh, I'm sorry, Viva. You were so close.

16 letters, though, we said we need it. Doug, do some anthropomorphizing of critters on your farm. You got, like, a buck who's a real bully or maybe a turkey who's really smart. Well, oh, we have a turkey that's, we call him limpy. He's been around for, this will be his, if he's around this spring, it'll be his third season of seeing him. And he was a two-year-old when I first saw him limping. That sounds like a job for the Latvian eagle. I've seen him.

And it's so funny because I had a friend there hunting and I was like, oh, there he is out in the field. And he's like jacking that leg. You know, he walks like a pirate. You know, it's just what he makes me think of. And he goes, I think I can catch him. And I was like, hey, go ahead. It's not like his wings are broken. Yeah, it's his leg.

And he had, I really want to, I want somebody to kill him because he, it's just a stiff leg. It's like his knee doesn't work. It's like it's a, he looks like a pirate. It's like a peg leg. Okay. Olimpy. This might be the spring. It happens.

Yeah. Question seven, the topic is woodsmanship. This next great question is via Colton Gitterman. Iowa State University says this type of walnut tree, which is used to make high-end furniture, is, quote, the most valuable tree in Iowa. Man, you'd be a nice tree. Oh, bone to Doug. Been throwing the bones the whole time.

Or Riva, who grew up in the driftless region of Iowa. Or not. Iowa State University says this type of walnut tree, which is used to make high-end furniture is, quote, the most valuable tree in Iowa. Any of these on the Duren farm? Yes, sir. Okay. You don't tell us?

Planted or natural? Well, we didn't plant any. So, you know, they were introduced over time. And I will say this, we plant it or we, we, we, this is going to, I guess it's a walnut tree, so it doesn't mean. So they drop walnuts on the ground. And if you have them near the edge of a CRP field, the squirrels are going out and planting,

which is a real pain in the butt because you can't have woody stuff growing in your CRP. So I cut four of these... Oh, did that hurt you? No, they were nice, big trees. It didn't hurt me at all. I've had run-ins with chainsaws before, but not in this case.

and they were they were nice trees they weren't you know super high grade but you didn't sell like veneer logs off we had a couple we had some veneer logs oh good oh i'd like to know but i mean our net was you know about $1,500 a tree which is kind of a low end on some of that yeah but um the ones left you have trail cameras on so nobody's going to come and steal them either yeah yeah oh and those are the ones, though, because they, in the right condition, they grow really nice and tall and straight. And I have one that's in this spot that would make the perfect tree stand. Okay. Tree.

I did have a guy shimmy up it with a climbing stand, which prompted me to then put a big ring of ribbon and paint around it with a big no on it. Never again. Well, I mean, it was fine because we climbed it. Iowa State University says this type of walnut tree, which is used to make high-end furniture, is the most valuable tree in Iowa. Go ahead and reveal your answers. Seth and Iani and Randall and Hansi and Doug. That's just a color.

Riva doesn't have it. Dang it. No, that's her favorite color. It's a black walnut. Black walnuts are not only the most valuable tree in Iowa, whether one of the most valuable trees in North America, it's estimated that a 50-foot black walnut is worth between $5,000 and $25,000 with 60-footers, sometimes worth more than $40,000. The most common uses for black walnut wood are cabinets, furniture, flooring, kitchenware,

musical instruments, and gunstocks. What do you think, Seth? You a big fan of black walnut? 40K. Like the color of it stuff? I do like it. I like when you get the, like the, like the, like the, like the, like the, like the, like the contrast of the light and the dark.

It's rich. Yeah. Spencer, this reminded me that we didn't address my maya culpa from our last woodsmanship question. Oh, okay. Do you ought to save that for, you would like to do it now? No, we can say, should we save it for another time? Sure, yeah.

We'll save for another time. People on the edge of their seats. Question eight, this episode's running long. Yeah, I figured. The topic is fishing. NBA players went fishing on a daily basis in Bay Lake and World Showcase Lagoon while quarantined at this place in 2020. Randall has his answer.

This is going to keep his perfect game going. Our other five players seem stumped. NBA players went fishing on a daily basis in Bay Lake and World Showcase Lagoon while quarantined at this place in 2020. It's also famously where Jimmy Butler opened a coffee stand, Big Head Coffee. That is now a brand of his room. Very famous. Yeah.

Where's he from? They were quarantined at this place Not where they lived also rumored to have some relations with a reporter At that same place yeah Lou Williams left this place yes to go get some A gentleman's clubs at Magic City It's also where the Beatles officially broke up and Richard Nixon said I am not a crook What else guys?

What else? What else happened here? NBA players went fishing on a date basis in Bay Lake and World Showcase Lagoon. I thought I had it right, but now I'm not feeling so good about it. See, I knew those hints weren't actually hints for anymore. Yeah, I saw that the state of Atlanta, I believe, is, is, uh, they might make, there's a movement to make the lemon pepper chicken wing, their official chicken wing flavor. They should do that.

Did I say the state of Atlanta? Yeah. Yeah. State of Georgia. It's late in the day. We should really find a window between when my powers begin to dwindle. Uh-huh. And I yawn a lot.

And also after Brody has to go get his kids. NBA players went fishing on a daily basis in Bay Lake and World Showcase Lagoon while quarantined at this place in 2020. This is question eight. We'll get a scoreboard update after this. Seth, are you going to come up with an answer? Nope.

I'm stunned about the Richard Nixon detail. Oh, yeah. We changed my answer. We're getting some cell phones. Is that your phone, Yonnie? Cell phones on the table, please. American people need to know. Just get it.

Absolutely your phone. Is that bad? Hmm. It's getting worse, I feel like. I'll take mine out of my pocket. Throw them across the room. Mine's on airplane. That doesn't always help.

Is everybody ready? There we go. It's gone now. That was Seth's phone. Seth, do you give up? Yeah, no. Go ahead and reveal your answer. Seth, without an answer.

Yonis says, Epcot Center. Randall says Disney World. Hansi says Atlanta. Rivas says San Francisco. Doug says Tampa. I was in the neighborhood. The correct answer is Disney World.

I think we give it to Janus. Okay. I was going to go to you, Phil. I was going to defer to you about if Epcot is the same. Here's the thing. I don't know if they were quarantined in Epcot. But World Showcase Lagoon is on it right next to it. I understand the confusion with Atlanta because Lou Williams went to Magic City.

But he traveled outside of the quarantine bubble under the auspices of going to a funeral for a relative. God, this was such a bone for Ramos. The NBA created. I just got it because I thought he said the NBA stuff. Yeah. The NBA created the bubble to finish their 2019-2020 season. During this time, players were quarantined at Disney World for up to 93 days while the league held its playoffs. Fishing became so popular among players that NBC Sports declared it was, quote,

everyone's favorite NBA bubble pastime. Players were allowed to fish on Bay Lake, the Seven Seas Lagoon, Village Lake, Crescent Lake, and the World Showcase Lagoon. These water bodies were stocked with Largemouth Bass in the 1960s and have been naturally reproducing ever since.

There is Luca Donchich holding a large... That thing is all-head. That is all-head. That is not a healthy adult Large Mouth. And apologies to any Mavericks fans out there. There's Lou El Cinder No

A. D. No, that's Paul Who is that? Played for the Sixers then. Now he plays to really embarrassing. It doesn't matter. The NBA bubble.

Phil, give us a scoreboard update with two fishing questions left. It seemed like more of a sports question. It did. It did. It really did. hanging out with two points. We've got Seth with five.

Hansi, Janus, and Doug now all have six points, and Randall's still holding on to that perfect game with eight. Randall can bomb the next two? Can he cut all that out when we couldn't recognize Paul George? To be fair for listeners, he was staying at a very weird angle where the camera was down near his knees, and so we didn't really get a good head-on look. I don't know.

You can tell the listeners. I don't know if the listeners who care. He's a passionate angler, though, When he had that big injury a couple years back, they did a feature in, I want to say Sports Illustrated, of him fishing. And he was like, this is how I rehabbed. And it's just him on his boat, just fishing. What kind of boats he got? I don't know.

Every boat. Question nine, the topic is hunting. This disease with a colorful name is similar to E.H.D. killing bison, deer, and antelope. This disease with a colorful name is similar to E.H.D. Killing bison, deer, and antelope. And Anelope is this going to keep the perfect game going for you, Randall? Oh, I hope so, Spencer.

But he's a little flustered out. No, I'm just sweating. Yeah, that's what flustered me. Has there been the theme of, is that just the second color question? Well, yeah, we had the black walnut. And now this one, this disease with a colorful name, is similar to E.H.D. killing bison, deer, and antelope. Randall, Janice, Seth, Doug, all like their answers.

Hansi and Riva do not. Riva still has the best time in here. Doug is spying on her whiteboard and had a chuckle. I mean, I kind of angled mine trying to give her. This disease with a colorful name is similar to E.H.D. Killing bison, deer, and nanos. One of them anyways. Is everybody ready?

You're the inspiration. Hansi? I don't know. I don't think I got this. Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Seth and Janus and Randall saying blue tongue. Hansi says tuberculosis. Riva says black and blue.

Doug says blue tongue. The correct answer is blue tongue. What color is tuberculosis? Well, with a colorful. name, I was thinking like... Oh, like fun. Jimmy Cricket. It has some...

The shade of tuberculosis. It has some kind of nickname. Tuberculosis blue. That sounds like a jazz tune. Miles Davis made this next one famous. Both diseases are spread by biting nets, which result in similar clinical signs. Blue Tong is often associated with domestic animals, such as sheep and cattle, while E.H.D. kills significantly more wild animals, such as

deer and elk. All right, here's a correct answer of you so far. One was Zion National Park. Two, drift sock or drift anchor. Three, Peregrine Falcon, four, Menards, five, edge habitat or ecotone. Six, anthropomorphism.

Seven, black walnut. Eight, Disney World, nine, blue tongue. Phil, give us a scoreboard update. The update is that Randall has this game locked in. Now, the only question is whether or not he can get that extra money. Two, Sharing the land.

Maybe. Who know? I'm telling you, man, I love your hair. Randall, let's do this for sharing the land, buddy. Thousand bucks. Brilliant. Brilliant scholar. What is it?

Sharing the land? If he can get this last question right, it will be a $1,000. We're rooting for you, Randall. Question 10, the topic is cooking. Don't mess it up, Spencer. Merriam Webster defines this six-letter Italian word as, quote, large shrimp prepared with a garlic-flavored. Oh, easy.

Okay. We have a confident... Belissima. Randall thinks he's going to have a $1,000 donation today. Merriam-Webster defines this six-letter Italian word as large shrimp, prepared with a garlic-flavored sauce. Is everybody ready, go ahead and reveal your answers? We have Seth and Janice and Randall and Hansi and Riva and Doug saying scampy.

They got it. The correct answer is... Scampy. Most of the world consider Scampi to be the peeled tail of any type of prawn. But in the UK, Scampi refers to a specific lobster that's found near Norway. In the United States, Scampi is usually prepared with garlic, lemon, butter, and white wine, then served over pasta or with bread. And Randall has his perfect game today.

He got 10 correct answers. Janice and Doug, Doug, with eight correct answers. Probably your best, strongest performance. Oh, I don't think it's probably, I think it's by three at least. So Randall, who's been in a like three-month slump, has ended that with a perfect game. What are you going to do with that $1,000 donation today? No pressure. I'd like to give it to sharing the land.

Oh, sharing the land. What do you like about them? It's not the people involved. It's the mission. That's right. Anything we can do for access is money well spent. Doug was saying that that $500 was going to go towards a website, but now he can have two websites with all that money.

You graciously donated to them today. We were updating. Who was talking about AI earlier? Our web guys, we just got an estimate from him for some upgrades that we need to do. And I was like, isn't that less than what we have been paying? He goes, AI is doing a lot of it for me now. Okay. Oh, okay.

Yeah. You have three websites. $1,000. No, no, no. I mean, it's a big, there's a whole matching thing, and there's a lot of... $1,000 going to Doug Durence sharing the land. Doug, thank you for joining us. And thank you for having me.

Always good to see you. Thanks, Spencer. Very entertaining. We'll have you back when our studio 3.0 is open. Join us next week for more meat eater trivia, the only game show where conservation always wins. Yeah, Spencer from South Dakota, he's the host. Using those smooth, mellow tones, he lays them questions down. And he likes taking those.

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Sign up for free at Lenovo.com slash pro. Hey, this is Steve from the Meat Eater podcast. Listen up, if you tuned into YouTube and watched our Africa series, we're hunting in Tanzania, well, if you did so, you know that the dude I'm hunting with is Morgan Potter. He's a professional hunter with Robin Hertz Safaris. Great guy. Well, he and I were doing an event in Nashville on February 19th

at the Safari Club International Convention. Even when we were hunting, we're like, man, we should do a presentation about our time in Africa at SCI. So we're doing that. This is February 19th, Safari Club International Convention in Nashville. We're going to do two things. From 930 to 1030, we're going to do a meet and greet at the Robin Hertz Safari's booth. Our actual events at 2 o'clock in the Omni Ballroom, after the event, I'll be happy to sign any books or take pictures, whatever's on your mind if you come on down.

So you get tickets, you've got to go to the Safari Club International website and get a ticket to the convention. Once you do that, you're prompted to go get a ticket to our event. All the ticket price goes to SCI. It's a nonprofit conservation group. All ticket prices go to SCI. They don't go to Mia Morgan. But we're going to be there. Guaranteed laughs.

Come check it out. Can't wait to see you. February 19, Nashville, Safari Club International Convention. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.