The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 842: "12 in '26" - Jani's Hunt for a Manitoba Giant

Episode Date: March 3, 2026

Janis Putelis answers your questions and breaks down his archery Manitoba black bear hunt captured in MeatEater's brand new "12 in '26" film series. He hunts over bait for the very first time to see w...hat the fuss is all about. Presented by @Moultrie.Products and @onXHunt Watch the film now on MeatEater's YouTube channel Connect with MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and YouTube Clips Subscribe to MeatEater Podcast Network on YouTubeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Welcome to Meat Eaters 12 and 26, presented by Maltry Mobile and On X Maps. 12 of Meat Eater's biggest and baddest hunts from the last year released throughout 2026. These are long-form episodes, so you get more of what you love. The first one up is my baited bear hunt in Manitoba. If you've ever wondered what a baited bear hunt is like, you'll love this episode. My favorite part was watching a younger bird.
Starting point is 00:00:30 bear spend an hour trying to figure out how to get a creatively hung beaver carcass down from a tree. Check it out now on Meat Eaters YouTube channel and be on the lookout for more 12 and 26 in the coming months. Even for me personally, like when you watch this on television, it looks almost too easy. And I've watched YouTube videos of this and been like, is that really hunting? is it easier than say a spot and stock hunt 100%. But one of the cool things that you get from baited hunt like this is you get to be very particular about the animal you hunt.
Starting point is 00:01:16 You don't have to make a judgment call on the size and the sex at 300 yards or 500 yards or even 100 yards. Here you get to do it at 10 yards, 12 yards. And so it's much easier. to pick out the mature male, not shoot a salad cubs. I don't know, it'll be interesting. I need to put some time in and just get a feel for all of it until I can really even have an opinion about it.
Starting point is 00:01:51 At this point, it's all new to me. What you just heard there were my ruminations from the first afternoon evening of my Manitoba bear hunt, where I'm sort of trying to figure out what in the world is going on. Welcome to 12 and 26 podcast. I should say welcome to the 12 and 26 podcast. This is the companion show to our 12 and 26
Starting point is 00:02:22 hunting fish films rolling out this year. What are the fish films, Corey? I only know of 12 hunting films. Is there some fishing? Well, we know there's some fishing behind the scenes on your Manitoba bear hunt. I don't know if there's any
Starting point is 00:02:39 front and center fishing film. Who wrote this script? Not me. Corinne. Anyways, we're going to do this for all of the 12 and 26 episodes, films, things that are coming out this year,
Starting point is 00:02:53 which if you haven't heard, we're doing an hour long just hour long versions of what we always do, but we're going to drop one a month. And alongside that, we're just going to have other things like articles and podcasts like this one, where the host of the show will answer your questions from the internet, whether it's YouTube or Instagram, and then just sort of give you a little bit more background, a little more context to the things that we do.
Starting point is 00:03:24 So if you're turning to the show right now and haven't seen my man at Tobah Bear Hunt, Go and watch that, and then this podcast will make more sense to you. And do you know what the next one is, Corey, coming up in March, I guess, the next 12 and 26? Well, it all has to do with our post-production team getting it out on time, depending on which one. But I believe it stars Clay Newcomb. I think we're trying to balance out which location and which pursuit will drop next. He's got a couple of them this year. He does.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Yep. Maybe some more bear hunting. Maybe. Mr. Bear Grease? That would make sense. We'll see. We'll see. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Today I'm here with Corey, who you've already heard from, and Phil the Engineer, to address your questions about my Manitoba Black Bear Hunt. And I want to thank you for writing in and giving us some questions so we can make this bonus content here. Corey and Corinne took a bunch of time to curate these questions. if there was, you know, 10 of the same question or 10 versions of the same question, we definitely chose those. So we're trying to answer the most requested questions. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Up top, we'd like to address the controversy, drama, and disagreement inspired by a baited bear hunt. And again, you guys all made your voice clear on both sides of this issue. Let's see. Should I tell, should I say the names of who wrote in? I think so. Yeah. Give him a little shout out. Mark M.C. Murphy 9507 writes, I'm sorry, guys, but this is not hunting. I should probably be careful about editorializing with my voice, huh, Phil?
Starting point is 00:05:14 Yeah, maybe. It could be very easy to do that. Yeah, maybe, I don't know if you want to say like quote, unquote, anything like that. Yeah, because these are the anti-baiting. Oh, you mean editorializing with like the tone of your voice? Yeah, you don't want to sound like Steve's did-da-da-thing. Because these are the folks that are not down with the baiting. I'm sorry, guys, but this is not hunting.
Starting point is 00:05:38 This is just killing. Even if there is a expletive ton of bears in Manitoba, in parentheses, heart my Canada. And if you're only taking mature boars, there is no stalking and no actual hunting. Is this right up there with animals' cage than released for killing? I don't think so, but come on, guys, you're better than this, and I still love meat eater. At Christopher O-K2I says, if you can't hunt it fairly, don't hunt at all.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Actually, this is not hunting. It's just killing the easy way. Disgusting. Here's at Moosey, 1961. I will never understand why any good hunter has to bait an animal in to kill. They are not real hunters. get expletive out there and track and hunt. Now, on the flip side,
Starting point is 00:06:33 at Struggle Bus Operator, kind of like that handle, writes, it's population control. Anybody who wants a challenge, in quotes, can find one elsewhere. But baiting can be a part of wildlife management. At my French bulldog and me says, Incredible watch and representation of how ethical hunting
Starting point is 00:06:54 doesn't end with legal bait and plenty of bears. Just a different look at hunting. At Powder Nits states, I dislike the uppity mentality that hunting is only big time spot and stock hunting. At...
Starting point is 00:07:11 Some random gamer. Some random gamer 1260. Thank you. I was going somewhere else with that. But they write, there's literally evidence in the animal world of other species using bait to hunt, birds using bait to attract fish into striking distance, for example.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Turtles with tongues literally shaped like a worm to lure fish into their mouths, and yet there's still some grown men who think hunting has to be difficult. At the Little Spoon, 1982, says, as a fisherman, I see nothing wrong with baiting your catch. Seems like gatekeeping to me to shit on people who bait animals for hunting. So, if somebody asks you now, what do you think about bait and bears? What would your take be, Yanni? That's Corinne asking this question. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Corey, maybe you were supposed to. And I see your name highlighted in there. Yeah, I didn't want to interrupt you. You were rolling. That's all right. We'll get this dialed by the end of it. That's perfect. Not before.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I've been thinking a lot about the whole bait and thing, especially since the episode came out and the comments came out. I've had almost a year to be thinking about this. And there's a lot to say about it. Number one, I'll say this. I am still a very inexperienced, like, bait hunter. I only have those three days. Well, that's not true.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Like I said, I think I've done two days over feeders in Texas for pigs and deer. So it's still very, very, very, small amount of experience. You're a big spot and stock guy. Well, I... I mean, I do all kinds of hunting a lot, but I just don't have a lot of experience doing baited hunts. And I say that not as a way to get out of answering the question, but because I've often found myself, because I, what I get to do and going to try different kinds of hunting all the time, is that a lot of times the first, even second time of when you're on a hunt,
Starting point is 00:09:25 It doesn't matter if it's guided or not. I'm a stranger to the landscape. I'm a stranger to the animal. If it's a new animal, then I'm hunting, right? So I'm still in the introductory stage. I'm still learning. I'm still building a relationship, both with the landscape and the animal.
Starting point is 00:09:46 And so it happened to me in Latvia, right, where we went there to hunt and I had this great stag kind of presented to me, but it was literally two hours. into the first morning of the hunt. I'm kind of like just there being kind of casual. Like, yeah, I don't know. This looks like it's pretty easy.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I mean, we'd already seen like two other stags that morning. And I didn't feel the pressure of like, oh, you need to get this thing killed now because this is your opportunity, right? And so same thing with these bears, with a baited hunt. I think going back and doing it a second and third time, I might actually be more excited,
Starting point is 00:10:23 have more buck fever. in the moment on the second or third time I kill a bear over bait that I did the first time because again you're just, it's so new. I don't even know to be excited yet, right? Because you're just kind of like, oh, this is easy. But as I saw in my hunt, it's like the mature bore,
Starting point is 00:10:44 he only showed up on day three. And maybe he wasn't going to show up, right? So it's not, again, that's my experience. But I don't know. We're going to continue coming back to like probably what I think about baiting bears. There's a bunch of questions related to that. I don't think there's anything wrong with it. The thing that it caused me the most sort of thought and sort of friction in my head has been,
Starting point is 00:11:15 well, if that's okay, how come I'm not really okay with baiting deer? Hence a question we received via Instagram. Was that a question? Yeah. Would you have the same outlook on baiting bears as you would baiting white tail? Yeah, and that one has, I think the word is consternation. It's just giving me a lot of time to think about it. Because where we are in Wisconsin, you're not supposed to bait.
Starting point is 00:11:48 But there's some baiting that goes on. Sure. And it definitely, Steve has always said talking about bait that any time the bait sort of changes the animal's natural movement patterns. He doesn't really like it. Well, obviously, with these bears, it's changing where they are. It's concentrating them big time, right? And we talked about the reasons why to do it, right?
Starting point is 00:12:12 It's like, it's all kind of there in that intro of that episode. It's like you get to see a lot of bears, you get to observe bears, and then you get to pick which bear you're going to kill. Which spot and stock hunting, as you know a lot of times, it's like, you're like, you're like, oh, I think it's a big bear. There's something black, like, I'm going to shoot it and I'm going to kill it. Oh, yeah. Spot and stock bear hunting.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I mean, unless it's sow with cubs or if it's like obviously a small bear you're seeing, it's like pretty hard to pass up an opportunity of just seeing one of those needles. Because you've been grinding. It's hard, right? Typically, yeah. So I think that, and as you can see in the comments, a lot of people don't like it because it's too easy. and to that, I feel like I have a great answer. It's like if you're sitting in a blind on a food plot,
Starting point is 00:13:04 I'm not even a food plot, let's just say it's a cornfield or any field where deer are going to come out like an hour before dark, and then you're going to shoot one. That's by no means any harder than what I did, right? Yeah. Like, you know they're coming to that food source. You've set up on that food source and an ambivalry. location. So sure, maybe you didn't dump the corn out in the field, a farmer grew it or whatever,
Starting point is 00:13:33 but it's kind of basically the same thing, right? But you did a fantastic job in this episode, Manitoba Black Bear, it's set in the scene as to what goes into the bait and how much work that entails, you know, time and money, a lot of energy. For sure, for sure. But I'm just saying like it's, I think that people see it and they're just like, oh, it's too easy. You're just there and you shoot it. And as the hunter on a guided hunt, yeah, we went and I helped Craig do a little bit. But yeah, I'm not putting in the effort that he is, right, to get the bears to be coming to that bait. So that feeling that you get from a hard-earned opportunity, whether
Starting point is 00:14:21 it's hiking the mountains for elk for a week or for multiple years to get a shot at one and then you get one sort of that elation, I'm probably not going to get that from shooting a bear over bait, right? But what I do want to say is that just because it's easier, I don't think that should necessarily take away from the experience. Just like set your expectations, right? Like you're not going to have that big, oh, moment and just go. like tears are going to come bursting out because you just put in five crazy days of work, right? This is way more casual or whatever,
Starting point is 00:15:00 but it is what it is and it shouldn't take away from it. There's a lot of, like I said, watch the episode, there's a lot of things that you get to experience doing that, that you don't get to experience grinding the mountains for five days, you know? So again, I just don't think that we should look at it as,
Starting point is 00:15:17 that it's exclusive of one another that just because, because one version of hunting is easier that it's not proper hunting or not ethical hunting or not the right kind of hunting. It's just different. Cool. Let's watch this next clip, which I think he's kind of set up
Starting point is 00:15:36 the kind of environment that you're in. Bill's ready for us to move on, folks. Two hours northwest of Winnipeg and we're still very much in southern Manitoba. This central Canadian province runs 760 miles north to south. The outfews, sits just north of riding Mountain National Park and just west of Lake Manitoba. To the south are the Great Plains and to the north the beginnings of the boreal forest.
Starting point is 00:16:04 This part of Manitoba is an even mix of forest and agriculture. Aspen and Bur Oak dominate the woods and the fields are mostly canola, wheat, and soybeans. This makes for unbelievable bear habitat. Manitoba is estimated to hold 30 to 40,000 black bears. Man, something about black bear hunting, yanni, and forest fires and smoke. When we went hunting in our... Oh, that's right. In Montana, we had somehow had to deal with forest fires in May.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Didn't expect that. And it affected our hunt. Yeah, you could see it's a little smoky in that clip there. Pretty thick. We actually ran into hunters. traveling on that hunt that had gone farther north and had to be evacuated and didn't even get to go Black Bear Hunt.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Oh, interesting. Yeah, so it's a thing. So after we watched and heard that, were you hunting McCarthy's property in Manitoba? And can you describe the layout of that habitat? So we were not hunting the McCarthy's place. We were hunting either public land that he has the right bait on or private land where he has an agreement with the landowner to have a bait site.
Starting point is 00:17:27 As far as what it looks like, I mean, you saw it there in the clip. If you're only listening, it is a very even mix of woods and ag. I mean, it's kind of what you expect in a lot of parts of the Midwest. Where the ag hasn't gone completely nuts, though, and where they're not ag and, you know, farming from ditch to ditch. but here there's still a lot of woods left between the fields. And yeah, I was surprised to see, like I said in the description there in the video,
Starting point is 00:17:58 it's aspen and oak trees, which I've never seen that mix anywhere else. I mean, we have big-tooth Aspen down in Wisconsin, but not these populist tremulotes like the ones that we have out west here, the ones that are real white barked, and you get the great colors. in the fall and they shimmer in the wind. That's the same aspen that's there.
Starting point is 00:18:21 So it's a really cool mix. And I bet you in the fall it's just absolutely gorgeous. I mean, oak trees and aspens, it's got to be killer. Yeah, colors. The foliage would be popping. Yeah. That's a lot of bears, obviously, that you got to witness daily out there. And then obviously, Manitoba, massive province.
Starting point is 00:18:39 But just the section you were in, you had a lot of bear encounters. So there must be plenty of places for him to rest and recover and hide out. assuming during the day. So just looking at that photo, we're looking at from that clip, it's a good mix, a lot of, a lot of habitat for them to hide in. And then plenty of farm field. Farm fields to feed in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:04 The best of both worlds. Everything a bear wants. And then you were there in June, right? So it's probably early farming season, assuming nothing's like standing too tall yet in those fields. No, no. We saw farmers actually plant. planting fields
Starting point is 00:19:20 prepping for the season. So did you pick those dates that you hunted in Manitoba that week? No. I think the season ends second week of June or after the second week of June. So it pretty much runs all in May and then two weeks into June.
Starting point is 00:19:39 He usually a lot of times doesn't hunt into June but because this is kind of last minute he got a spot for me, kind of on the back end of everybody else hunting. He felt like it's good and bad. Basically, the farther you get into June, the hides are going to be more rubbed, except for the big boars. He said that for whatever reason, the big boars seem to do less rubbing
Starting point is 00:20:08 and keep their nice hides longer. It might be because they're more focused on rudding. So that's kind of peak rutting activity, is that June time period. And so because they're, you know, looking for sows, they're not sitting around and rubbing their hides off.
Starting point is 00:20:25 I was going to ask that. Did you witness any rutting action? I mean, the big bore that came in, I mean, probably any bore that was sort of, you know, middle size, middle age to bigger or older
Starting point is 00:20:39 is coming there because they know there's going to be sows at that bait. There's going to be more than one sow, and there's going to be more than one bore, coming around, right? So, but I wouldn't say that we didn't actually see any sort of bored chasing
Starting point is 00:20:56 a sow activity. No, not specifically. Coming in is kind of a win-win for them. You might find some food. Well, they will find some food. Maybe they'll find a lady too. Yeah. That probably, they probably do that undercover in the thick oaks and aspens.
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Starting point is 00:21:51 and OnX Maps. 12 of Meat Eaters' Big Eater's and baddest hunts from the last year released throughout 2026. These are long-form episodes so you get more of what you love. The first one up is my baited bear hunt in Manitoba. If you've ever wondered what a baited bear hunt is like, you'll love this episode. My favorite part was watching a younger bear spend an hour trying to figure out how to get a creatively hung beaver carcass down from a tree.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Check it out now on Meat Eaters YouTube channel and be on the lookout for more 12 and 26. in the coming months. Let's see, changing topics. We had a few questions come in about bear bait ingredients. Someone on Instagram asked, what kind of bait is used, and how does it affect the flavor of the meat and fat of the bears? We've got a clip here from the film, which could help answer that.
Starting point is 00:22:46 I just put a bit of oats and then I'll top it off with some corn. At the start of the season, I usually just use oats. Just oats. Just oats. and the grease used grease. How do you get your hands on enough grease for this? I got some inns with a few restaurants and they just hold it all for me.
Starting point is 00:23:14 So like use friar oil. Use friar oil, yeah. And then I put an ounce or two of Northwood's bear products in it. Some expired stuff. They eat anything that's soaked in friar oil. You think they would eat it less if it was just plain bread? Well, if it's got green, they're fussy. Really?
Starting point is 00:23:37 If it's like rotten like that, they won't eat it. No kid. Unless he soak it. They don't eat fish because they're not raised on it like they are in BC and stuff, right? The salmon runs and they just, and then meat, if the meat goes rotten, they don't like it. But something about beaver. Something about beavers, right. If you're only listening again, we were at the bait barrel.
Starting point is 00:24:10 and after putting in the corn and oats that were soaked in the friar oil, we added some outdated bread that was moldy. So that's why we were talking about the mold. But he said if you soak it in some grease, then they're more apt to get after it. So, yeah, our ingredients included oats, corn, grease, bear liwer, birthday cake, and beaver meat. The most interesting part about it was that there is some tactics involved with baiting. Like early on,
Starting point is 00:24:44 when he's doing the sort of pre-baiting to set the stations up before he's got hunters coming in, it's only the oats. And they're soaked. And the reason he does that is because the oats don't fill the bears up. They just go right through the bears. They kind of just poop them right out.
Starting point is 00:25:03 And it's very evident when you're at the bait site because it was like a 20-yard radius where it's almost like a just a smear of bear poop of oats that are just they're still whole like they're just not breaking them down they're not getting nutrients out of them so they fill up they leave they come right back so he feels like that helps him come back and then as it gets time to hunt him he starts adding the corn and adding other things to sort of sweeten the pot a little bit and hopefully make that one, you know, big bear come in during daylight hours. The other more interesting thing was how into the beaver meat they are.
Starting point is 00:25:47 The first night, it was just hung basically where they could get to it very easily. And the first bear that came in, got the beaver out of the tree, went off 50 yards, and you could hear munching on it. Other bears were coming in. They could smell that he was over there or she was over there. chewing on that beaver meat. They would go over there. They'd tussle, you know, get a chunk or whatever.
Starting point is 00:26:09 And once it was all gone, the bears started hitting the bait barrel. But that beaver meat is number one for whatever reason. And I even asked Craig about, like, how come you just wouldn't use roadkill? Yeah. Like there's moose around, there's elk around, there's deer around. And he's like, man, they're not into it. Wow. Not into it.
Starting point is 00:26:29 With that sweet beaver meat, they love it. His theory is that it's one of the first of easy available foods for them in the spring, and the sow can teach those cups to basically sit on a beaver run and hunt them easily. And so they sort of grow up,
Starting point is 00:26:45 you know, with a taste for it. Yeah, like you were saying, they don't like fish, which is surprising to me because it's just a stinky old fish you think would just re-win anything, right? But if they're not used to it,
Starting point is 00:26:56 if they're not grown up on it, as for a beaver. And I would imagine that like anything, if you just kept giving it, it to him, kept giving it to him, that some would start to eat it slowly and then, you know, maybe they'd develop a taste for it. But anyways, um, so people want to know, uh, if like that changed the flavor of the meat or the fat. Again, he only baits him for about eight weeks
Starting point is 00:27:25 total. Maybe that's enough time to change the, the flavor of bear meat. But again, he, Again, it's mostly corn and oats. There's like some oil on there. There's a little bit of the pastries and the sweet stuff. Birthday cake? Yeah, I just don't think it's quite enough. The only time that we've experienced that is with the Prince of Wales Island Bears that literally are eating fish or seafood year-round.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Like they're always scavenging on the beaches, whether it's they're eating muscles. or they got salmon coming up the creeks and are eating those, whatever it might be, that bear meat, Steve one time gave me a chunk and said, close your eyes and eat this. And when I ate it,
Starting point is 00:28:15 it was a smoked chunk of bear, but when you ate it, you thought you were eating salmon jerky. Because it just tasted like a salmon. That sounds pretty good. Yeah, it actually wasn't bad at all. It wasn't like it was rotten salmon. It was just, you know, smoke.
Starting point is 00:28:31 it was more of a smoked salmon flavor than a smoked red meat flavor. So, yeah, I don't think it changed it at all. Did you notice any different taste? You did that, what was the recipe that you cooked up up there at their camp? Did you notice any off-putting taste in the flavor or the fat that you've been eating on? No, the fat is completely, what makes bear grease so great is that it's odorless and flavorless. I mean, I just I think that if you did a blind taste test
Starting point is 00:29:07 and you had, I don't know, olive oil and avocado oil and whatever, grape seed oil, bear grease would land in the oils that are just the most flavorless and odorless. Like, I feel like olive oil I could probably pick out. I'm trying to think of one other one that's like just very, very bland. but yeah
Starting point is 00:29:34 there's just no flavor to it it's great that is uh from YouTube at UA 2894 asks isn't it bad to feed the bears on that stuff
Starting point is 00:29:46 wondering the overall health yeah we the health of the bears again if it was a year-round program it probably would not be good for the bears um everything in moderation you know we did hit this
Starting point is 00:30:01 an immediateer podcast where there's some sort of study being done I think maybe even North Carolina they excuse me outlawed some types of bait because literally the bears there were getting tooth decay
Starting point is 00:30:18 tooth rot but again I'm assuming it was like a year round program or just a lot of it you know bears aren't brushing their teeth and it was you know it was affecting the bear So, yeah, again, too much of it, probably not good. Follow-up question, someone asked,
Starting point is 00:30:43 Witness encourage bears to raise garbage cans. I talked to Craig McCarty this morning about that. They do not have like a higher prevalence of bears in garbage cans or at people's houses than anywhere else where there's bear human interface, you know? I think that once these bears are off the bait, once the season ends, again, there's just so much food in that habitat between acorns from those oak trees and then all of the stuff that they're growing. Canola, corn, soybeans, it's orgum, you name it.
Starting point is 00:31:18 It's all there that those bears just have a lot of food at their disposal. Fawns, calves, moose, deer. Yeah, I'm sure at some point, you know, when there's when there's the, when it's faunting season. I'm sure they snack on a few. Beavers. Yeah, beavers. Well, okay, moving on from baiting.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Mm-hmm. A few folks asked if you could detail your archery setup, your bow and arrow setup. Where were you shooting? That was a Matthews. LiftX set at 70 pounds. You know, my draw length is just shy of 30 inches. I shoot about a 30-inch arrow.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Maybe my arrow is 29.5. I'm shooting the RIP TKOs with the 200-grain head on them. There's a weighted insert as well. I think my total arrow weight is right around 500 grains for that setup. Yeah, anything else do you want to know about my bow and arrow setup? No, that was pretty good. I don't think we're going to... Single Bevel Broadhead from Iron Will.
Starting point is 00:32:31 That's what I shot through it. And, yeah, got a nice pass through, and the bear died 50 yards later, you know, less than 30 seconds. We heard the death moan. Yeah, I don't remember if you covered it in the film or not, but where did you hit them? Did you hit the middle, just forward of middle of middle, like you and you know, you just can't. We've replayed it, which is often fun to do when you video hunts is you can replay and see exactly where you. hit. But the lights fading just enough. That arrow's moving just fast enough that you, it's, it's hard to tell exactly where it is because the bear, you know, shrugs just a little bit as the
Starting point is 00:33:10 arrows going in there. It was hard to find the middle of the middle. Sure. Because your sight picture is just full of black hair and it's low light and there's no shoulder crease. There's no ribs that you can, you know, see. There's no other coloration that you can kind of work off of. You know, like a pronghorn antelope, I mean, it literally gives you a spot to aim on its side where there's like a right hand, you know, a right corner of white coming up into its vitals. And literally if you put a bullet on that corner, it's money. Yeah, an all black bear does not have that.
Starting point is 00:33:52 And so you can actually see me in the video sort of like moving my pins around going up and down. I kind of come out of my peep a couple of times just because I really wanted to be sure, you know, and try to get it into that middle of the middle spot. But yeah, we did a little necropsy and it had gone right through the lungs. Beautiful. Yeah, how far did you go? Maybe 50 yards. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Through some thick stuff. but easy blood trail. Even with all that fur, that could be tough to blood trail bear. Yeah, you don't like any animal. People are always like, oh, how come there's no blood right off the bat?
Starting point is 00:34:31 I don't think that there is blood right off the bat, not the kind of blood that you really want to see. I mean, sometimes you see it when you get a muscle wound and you get some muscle blood like spurting right off the bat. But really, when you go through the vitals, that stuff just doesn't start bleeding. you know, you basically have to fill up that cavity for it to start coming out the edges, right? Or the motion to start sloshing it out of there.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Yeah, and with a bear, it has to, it mops it up like a sponge before it actually hits the ground. Sure. Bears can be very tough. Or, you know, if you've gotten the lungs good or, you know, one of those big arteries where it's going to cause the blood to be coming out of the face, right? That still takes time. And animals go so far, so fast that people are like, oh, I didn't have blood. the first 50 yards. Well, you know what? That's not a issue for me. If I don't have blood the first 50 yards. It's just like, it's just not a thing that I think about. And usually if you made the right hit and there's a bunch of blood, it's like the animals there dead at 50 yards. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Yeah, not a thing I'm too worried about. I was curious. You weren't using illuminated knocks. I was. You were. Oh, excuse me. Obviously, I didn't watch it enough. But that's good, obviously. That's lot of shots on those big boars are going to be at last light. That helps so much. Be able to see, especially if you're filming, look back at it and see where you hit it. Let's see. At CJJ98 asks, doesn't safety say to use a gear harness and pulley to get your bow rifle,
Starting point is 00:36:09 crossbow into the stand with you? Yet Janus climbed up with it in his hand. What do you have to say about that? So yes, I knew this would be a thing. The first night I wore a... a saddle and I was tethered in the second two nights I did not so these stands were what I would consider a low stand 10 feet maybe your butt's 12 feet off the ground like you're just not that high um you don't have to be that high right just like a little bit um and it's probably more for
Starting point is 00:36:44 to be able just to see and get the right angle over foliage and stuff more than trying to hide you know like with deer hunting we're trying to get 20 feet up all the time because it's like part of the hide um so yeah it was a huge stand it was a two-person stand it had a the bar around it yes could it be bad if you still fall eight feet or 10 feet off of a ladder 100% um it uh just in that moment i felt very safe that i can make it that short distance that wasn't that high off the ground that I could deal with it safely you know and then the second and the third night
Starting point is 00:37:27 once I was in the stand I wasn't strapped in again big wide platform I was only you know my feet were like eight or ten feet off the ground um low enough for that seven foot bear to grab your foot if you wanted to
Starting point is 00:37:43 oh yeah for sure for sure but uh yeah so 100% kids when you're climbing up in those stands, you should always use a rope to pull up your rifle or your bow. Like when I'm in Wisconsin, I always do that. It's probably impossible with the way I climb up into a tree, probably be impossible to go up with the bow in my hand. But yeah, that's the way you want to do it. Again, it was literally like three steps for me and it just seems so short that I wasn't worried about it. Well, thanks for explaining. We have another clip of the film to show, and we'll explain
Starting point is 00:38:20 what we're seeing here, Phil, take it away. So for those who couldn't see what was going on, on the first day of your hunt, we see Craig, your outfitter standing feet away from the bait drum and feet away from two bears before he leads it to you. A bunch of folks rode in asking, what the heck, what's going on? Why are those bears so close to the guy and not getting spooked?
Starting point is 00:39:00 They almost look tame. Can you explain this scene, Yanni? Mm-hmm. And you can see on my Instagram, too, there was other videos and you can check out Craigs. Excuse me, this LaCroix has really given me some gas in my chest. There's other videos out there where that same day we're messing around,
Starting point is 00:39:21 we're setting up camera gear and whatever, and behind our backs, there's bears already coming to the bait, because we've already prepped the bait. And at one point, I tried to just sneak alongside the Can-Am, and I get within, yeah, two or three feet to where I could reach out and smack him in the face if I wanted to, right?
Starting point is 00:39:40 It's a young bear. So I was talking to Craig about that this morning. And he's like, he's like, look, you got to look at it that here's this food source. They're interested in it. There's a bunch of bears in the area. Those young bear, it's a competition. Those young bears are pretty much like, if I want to get some of this, I got to be here first. Sure.
Starting point is 00:40:03 And so, like, there's certainly a. custom to the sound of the buggy coming in. It's like a dinner bell probably. Oh, 100%. And so they're there and they want to get first crack at it, right? And they're ballsy enough to where they're like, yeah, other things, whatever, can't am, humans. I'll take my chances because I want to get some of these calories.
Starting point is 00:40:28 So, yes, it's like, it's, again, it does make it, it gives it this like, oh, they're like, they're tame. Well, they're tame when they're young and they're hungry. And as they get older and they start to dominate, they start to not be quite so bold during daylight hours. Like they've had weeks where the big boars only show up in the dark. And the clients don't get to kill a big boar because those big boars haven't figured out. Yeah, outsmarted them.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Somehow. Well, there's other scenes of bears getting really close to you. I was curious once that can-am leaves, did those bears acknowledge you three? They're two cameramen and yourself in the tree. Yeah, and that's a weird thing when you've never been there to get used to that because they sort of like come in and then they glance up,
Starting point is 00:41:19 but then they just go back to what they're doing. So they're very aware of your presence. Again, I just think that it's like this bait is here. They want those calories. they're will there that risk reward they're willing to do the risk for the reward um again for whatever reason the big bore is not doing that that much so they they know that the threat is there and like we're still when we're setting up on those baits we're still thinking about where are the where is the bore going to come from what's the wind doing because the wind was set up just right for
Starting point is 00:42:01 when that bore came in, that he did not smell us. Like, it was kind of a crosswind, and so had he, like, looped the crosswind, he would have smelled us, but he came in on the trail, and he just never cut my wind. It could have been a totally different thing had he, you know, looped around and gotten our wind. I don't know what the result would have been.
Starting point is 00:42:21 But that bear never knew we were there, the boar. So. Well, we have some clips showing just how close some of these bears got to you. Such good climbers. Looks like he's kind of taking his time too. Is that right underneath you? Yeah, he's kind of coming up the side where there's no ladder.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Those were Max's feet, you could see. And I'm on the other side of the tree. Yeah, this one, you can see, that's a cub that had come in with the sow, which you can see underneath Eli there. A big cinnamon bear is a sow. And she had a black cub and a blonde cub. and I'm not worried at all about that little cub. Like that dude, you know, you can pop him in the nose
Starting point is 00:43:50 and you're probably going to turn him the other direction. But if that sow thinks that there's danger in that tree because you just popped her, you know, cub, that's the problem is that, like, you piss off that sow. Because that sow is not that much smaller than the boar that I ended up killing. She's a tank. Yeah. Beautiful color.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Yeah. So, yeah, we didn't have anything like that happened in our tree. It just happened to be that when that sow sent those cubs up the tree that that one chose that one that Eli was in. Okay, that's what was happening. They were retreating from that bore coming. Yes, exactly. And that happened a lot.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Like every single night, there'd be a sow in there with cubs. They're doing their thing. And then a lot of times even before we saw the other bear, the sow would make some grunt, some noise, some movement. and those cubs would just be, you know, 30 feet up a tree and a heartbeat because the boar's coming in. And what would mom do? She'd hang out kind of at the base of the tree.
Starting point is 00:44:53 If she had to, she'd sort of charge at those other bears and run them off. But, yeah, I think she was, out of all the bears we saw in three days, she would have done that to every single bear except the one that I killed. Oh, really? Yeah. If she would have charged him There would have been a little Battle Royale on our hands
Starting point is 00:45:15 Yeah Those look like yearling cubs No those were definitely not yearling Those were probably second year cubs Those were pretty To get kicked then There's the second night There's a lot of clips on it
Starting point is 00:45:27 On the episode But the second night Those are probably more like yearling cubs Like one year old Not like born that year in the den But one year old I think those were probably two-year-old and getting ready to kick. Because those were, like, decent size.
Starting point is 00:45:42 I mean, when that one's next to Eli, it doesn't look that much smaller than Eli. No. Oh, interesting. You know, so coming on 200-pound bear, you know, I doubt that's a yearling. They're eating good. They are eating good. Yeah, hard to say, obviously. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:45:57 I'm Luke Wilson. Join me each week for Film Never Lies. Since retiring from the NFL, I've had a lot of my mind, and now got my own show. So if you're tired of lazy takes, if you want honest conversations, join us each one. week. Film Never Lies available on all TSN platforms in the IHeartRadio app. Welcome to Meat Eaters 12 and 26 presented by Maltry Mobile and OnX Maps. 12 of Meat Eaters' biggest and baddest hunts from the last year released throughout 2026. These are long-form episodes so you get more of what you love.
Starting point is 00:46:29 The first one up is my baited bear hunt in Manitoba. If you've ever wondered what a baited bear hunt is like, you'll love this episode. My favorite part was watching a Yardt. younger bears spend an hour trying to figure out how to get a creatively hung beaver carcass down from a tree. Check it out now on Meat Eaters YouTube channel and be on the lookout for more 12 and 26 in the coming months. Let's see another question from at relaxing drives 6075. I've never hunted bears before, but I'm confused about how you all get away with moving and talking so much and not spooking the bears. Can you please comment on this? I understand the bears see very well,
Starting point is 00:47:08 well, but they get face to face with the cubs in the tree and seem to be unbothered. Are they aware you are there and just don't fear you? 100%. 100%. They just haven't. I think they do fear yet, but again, it's that risk reward for that bait. And again, we're not there doing jumping jacks and hooting and hollering. Like, we're doing some talking.
Starting point is 00:47:34 It's very quiet. I think that if you climb down out of the tree, you're going to run the bears out of there, right? If you start yelling and talking in a normal voice, you're going to probably run the bears out of there. I don't know. We didn't test that
Starting point is 00:47:50 because I think that the whole goal is that you're trying to minimize your presence so that the boar, who is sketched out about the situation so that you can fool him into coming in. Well, seeing you move is one thing. but do you think you must have had pretty decent wind when they were all hanging around there
Starting point is 00:48:10 or did they not really mind that as much either? It just, it depended. But yeah, like those, your stands never set up upwind of that bait. Sure, it's not going to be perfect all the time. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:48:21 but, well, that would be the wrong version. So it's set up in a way so that most of the predominant winds of the area are going to not be blowing right at the bait, you know? So,
Starting point is 00:48:34 yeah, I think if they were, again, because they don't see that great. This fellow seems the thing that they do or this person, but bears, right, in your opinion, not the best vision. You can't fool their nose, but yeah, they're a little,
Starting point is 00:48:49 they'll question what they see until they smell it or even hear it. They'll look at you for a while, but if they smell you, you may not ever get a chance to see them. Yeah, it's over. Normally. Let's see, here's another question.
Starting point is 00:49:01 What signs do you look for to tell a bore from a sow on camera? definitely just a stockier front end especially those with those younger bears I don't know if it's impossible but I don't think I could tell but as those bears get older
Starting point is 00:49:19 the boars have just more shoulders on them and then they almost start to walk and you can definitely see it with the bear that I shoot when he comes in there's like a little bit of a swagger his front toes are pointed inward almost a little bit and just the body shape
Starting point is 00:49:39 the sow seems to be rounder I guess if that makes sense more pear shaped yeah definitely rounder in the butt yeah rounder in the butt yeah um other than that it's basically the cub thing
Starting point is 00:49:57 it's not easy it's nice when you get some time to look at them oh yeah but in spot and stock especially around here out west It's hard to get enough time, first of all, to be able to tell the difference. But yeah, make sure Cubs is the biggest giveaway, like you said. But that bore was obvious, like you said, coming in hot, swaggering, owning the joint.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Let's see, moving on. We want to flash another clip from the film, which shows just how smart black bears are. Yeah, so this one, we hung that basically like you'd hang some food in the back country, in bear country. looped it over a limb, had it hanging down, and then had tied it off there on that tree where we had that molding camera. This bear never even looks at the barrel. He goes straight to the not-so-easy to get beaver carcass and never gives up. He climbs every tree in the vicinity multiple times.
Starting point is 00:51:13 He eventually realizes that the yellow rope is attached to the beaver. And after enough manipulation, he gets what he wants. Oh, there's something about that beaver meat that a barrel full of use. So smart. Our video playing services having some issues, but that was basically the end of the clip. Yeah, yeah, we got it. Just try out of there. That's a very abridged version.
Starting point is 00:51:39 That bear, I think that bear knew that we had put that. I don't want to say that he knew that we put that beaver carcass there, but I think that he knew that somehow we were, associated with it, the same way that he kind of knew that that yellow rope was associated with it, because he came over, because you got, the whole thing happens there in a span of a minute or two, but that actually lasted closer to an hour. Wow. And that bear came and climbed our tree multiple times, and he definitely had a little bit of a huff and a puff and a
Starting point is 00:52:10 and an attitude to him about it when he was coming up that tree as a kind of, you know, and again, it's a little bit of anthropomorphization here, but you're thinking that the, Bear is like, hey, you guys have something to do with that thing. Like, I need to come up here and maybe if I do something with you guys, that'll make the, you know, the beaver carcass fall out of the tree. I don't know. But like I said, he went up every single tree and just messed around, messed around, messed around, messed around until finally, you know, he gets a hold of that rope.
Starting point is 00:52:43 And then he sees that when he's holding it onto the rope, the carcass is moving. And he just kept messing with that rope until the carcass. carcass fell down. Clay, in his new book, he dives into, I haven't read this part, but Clay told me all about it, about how black bears are, like, it's proven, it's study that they are the most curious animals. And like, like, they're able to do more problem solving than any other wild animal on our continent, right? So this is like a prime example of that bear being like, oh, I want that. I'm going to figure out how to get it, as opposed to just being like, oh, it's out of reach. I'll go and eat the stuff out of the barrel
Starting point is 00:53:23 There's a trip And again That was worth the price of admission Was just go there and watch that bear Problem solved that And was that bear able to devour that whole beaver Did somebody else come and steal it? He ran off with it eventually
Starting point is 00:53:39 And then other bears would Go into the woods where he was And you'd hear some growling And some You know, I couldn't see what was going on But again, like they loved that meat and I'm sure someone else got a little bits and pieces of it. Smart little bugger.
Starting point is 00:53:59 He's got an interesting coat too. He's kind of trying to become either cinnamon or blonde. Well, yeah, that or he's rubbed out, hard to say. Yeah, could have rubbed that outer coat off. Let's see, where are we at here? We talked about how they love the beaver meat over the sugar and the baits. You did eventually get a chance at the target bore and made. a pass-through shot.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Your reflections on sight picture and taking the shot were interesting since you've never been that up close and personal with a bear. Sure. And we kind of covered that. It's just like it's a big black target and your sight picture.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Had he been at 30 yards, it'd be easier to pick the middle of the middle because you can just, your sight picture, you can see the entire bear. But when he's at 12 yards, as I think how far the shot was, like you can't see the top,
Starting point is 00:54:54 when you're looking through your peep, You can't see the top of the bear or the bottom of the bear. You can just see black. And so it was just a little bit of a challenge to find the middle of the middle. Yeah, we got a clip here a few. Oh, watch it. What do you think about that? Looks good, man.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Looks like good blood? I'd see. There's some bubbles in there. Oh, yeah. All in here. It was tough because, you know, it's getting a little bit dark, and you're so close to him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:27 That, like, your whole sight picture is just black bear. Right. And so I came off and like three different times going, okay, there's his leg. Okay. There's his, you know, bottom of the bear. There's the top of the bear. Yeah. Okay. There's the middle. Yeah. And there's the middle of the middle. Let's move on to the next one, Corey. Yeah. YouTube question from at regular guy dash J4L asks. Honest question. If the bear was wounded, did you have a backup weapon? And can you even have one in Manitoba.
Starting point is 00:56:06 A pistol is what he's referring to. Yeah, I don't know the answer as far as can you have one to Manitoba. I don't think I could have traveled up there with a pistol. I'm not sure I didn't look into it. I did ask that of Craig when we were tracking the bear. I'm like, wouldn't this be something that you normally do? And he normally does have, I believe, a shotgun. I can't remember if it was that or lever action.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Some kind of a small. handy, maneuverable weapon that he can pump off some rounds if needed, you know? And he usually does pack that, but he had forgotten it. He did feel confident with my report on,
Starting point is 00:56:48 you know, that we thought we made a good shot. We heard the death moan. We heard him crash, not far away. Like, he felt like we were going to walk in there and find it. But normally he said, when he is tracking,
Starting point is 00:57:00 he does have a weapon. But I was not, carrying one. How long did you guys wait after your shot? I mean, we really only waited because, well, one, you're making a television piece of television, so, you know, the camera guy's got to wrap their stuff up, and, you know, we're trying to shoot stuff and make sure we got it all covered. And then I forget how far away Craig was, but it took him, I don't know, 20 or 30 minutes to get there maybe. And so, yeah, not that long. Yeah, 30 minutes.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Well, that helps to be patient. Let him expire. Just make sure. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Okay, we want to show the bore you got, Phil. Wow. Yeah, he's a tank.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Look at that. He's a beast. Look at that animal. That's a mature bore right there. It's the one we're looking for. You got him. Wow. Oz.
Starting point is 00:58:06 That's a big bear. Look at the head on him. That sucker's thick. He's awesome. Thanks, buddy. Thanks, Craig. Yes, sir. Love that bloody handshake.
Starting point is 00:58:39 What a giant, giant beast. Yeah, people ask that that was my biggest one. Well, that's my only bear. It's not true. I killed one that Mingus tree in our backyard once. That was, I don't know, a 75-pound bear. He was eating our chickens. When I called the warden, he's like, look, you can kill him or I'm going to have to come and kill him.
Starting point is 00:59:02 If you kill him, you can put the meat in your freezer. So I chose that route. So this is the first one that I went on a hunt and got. Yeah, I'm stoked. It's a big bear. Good luck topping that one. Yeah. I mean, he's got a, we think we, I texted Craig if you remember what we, we, we
Starting point is 00:59:24 Green scored him. 19 and change is what he thought on the skull, which I think 20 inches is like Boone Krogat minimum, 21 is all the time. And he thinks he's squared around seven and a half feet. So, yeah, big old giant bear. I mean, I'm stoked on it. Bears are kind of nice.
Starting point is 00:59:50 It's kind of like a turkey in a way where any, mature bear, just like any mature Tom. You know, Tom's become a little mature sooner than a bear, but they're all nice because they're all like big and fat and got a big skull on them. And like, I don't care if it's an 18-inch skull or 21-inch skull. I don't think that's ever going to be a thing for me. Or if the hide is six feet versus seven and a half feet, um,
Starting point is 01:00:20 like I was just happy with the experience. now that I have a skull and a hide at home I'm like I'm probably not going to go try to kill another bear to have another skull and more hides we just don't have things to do with them these days
Starting point is 01:00:37 like my hide is basically laying on in the middle of our living room which is fun Mingus has been taking a lot of naps on it oh good I've laid down on it a little bit I have a dream or a vision where once I move my wood stove to a place where you can actually, right now it's
Starting point is 01:00:59 like in the entry area, which I understand why the guy did it, but I would prefer if it was like in a corner of the house where you can sit in a comfortable chair in front of it, watch the fire. I'd like to have that hide laid out in front of it there where I could have my hound dog sleeping on it. I could kick my feet up on the hound dog that's on the bear hide. You know, I'm not going to try to preserve this hide by any means. I'm going to use it. I'd like to use it literally as a rug of some sort on the ground.
Starting point is 01:01:28 I'm not going to just hang it up on the wall just to be able to look at it. That being said, I don't need more hides. I don't need more skulls. What I do need more of is bear me. Oh, amen. The more I eat it, the more I like it. And it's just such a nice change of pace from all of the super lean venison, you know, whether it's elk, deer, pronghorn, moose, whatever.
Starting point is 01:01:52 all that stuff just gets to just kind of be the same after a while. And it's nice to have some meat. It's got some fat in it. So I'm 100% going to keep hunting bears. But primarily for the meat. Yeah. It's a good change up. And here in Montana,
Starting point is 01:02:10 and a lot of places, seasonally you can add to your freezer in the spring. People feel obligated, I think, to do stuff with hides and skulls, especially with bears. I mean, in some places, you have to pack it out. But honestly, for me, that's not what I'm into bear hunting for. I want the meat and the fat.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Like, we're almost out of all of the, I know someone asked, well, we can just go to the next question. Well, yeah, let's bring this one up. At max straight 6-235 asks, what are your thoughts on scoring bears? I think we've established that. Is there a better way to identify trophy status, or does it even matter? Skull size is very difficult to assess
Starting point is 01:02:58 even some pumpkin heads don't score as well as you'd expect, as much of the appearances can be soft tissue. I'm guessing yours went around 20 inches, a great example of what our province has to offer. Must be a local Manitoban. But yeah, good point. I mean, if you mentioned that skull was under 20, I harvested a bear last spring
Starting point is 01:03:19 that sounds like we need to clarify this. Might have a little bit bigger of a skull, but he did not go as long or as squared as your bear. So he'd had a big wide skull, which probably helped that score. Growing up, we just worried about length. Like, you were always looking for a seven-foot bear, which is pretty rare to find in Montana.
Starting point is 01:03:43 I know of a few, but they're hard to find. That's an old bear. It doesn't always mean it's an old bear either, just a big, long bear. You know, good jeans on the hoof or on the paws, they say. Scoring a bear in the field as far as Boone and Crocket and Pope and Young is very difficult. You'll know if he's got a big old noggin on him. But most people that I know look for the length, nose to tail,
Starting point is 01:04:06 as far as what establishes a big bear and the size of a bear where you could brag about to your friends or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to continue to try to kill bears and just kill ones that aren't the size of a black lab. uh someone asked or maybe this was just cori asking how much the bear weighed and how much rendered fat did i get off him the bear was 388 pounds because i had to travel with all of it back from manitoba to montana and you know airplanes and all that um i got surprisingly more meat and fat back than i thought i would um i filled up i don't know three yeti soft off sides and I still had, I felt like the majority of a bear left because I had, you know, hide and skull. And so we had enough time because we killed on day three and didn't leave until day six or seven that we processed, well, rough process, basically just got the meat into zip blocks.
Starting point is 01:05:07 And we were able to freeze most of it. And so I actually then just put it into big heavy duty garbage bags and just literally filled a duffel bag, I think up to 100 pounds. And we just paid the extra fee on shipping that back. So I had an amazing amount of meat and fat coming home with me plus hide and skull. But in the end, when I rendered that fat down, I ended up with about two gallons. I think I probably could have gotten at least another gallon, maybe two. I mean, we weren't being like super picky about it when we were breaking it down again because I knew I just had limited space to get it home. But yeah, it was two gallons, super stoked on it. I've been given away too much of it. And I'm only, I'm down to like two pints now. And so I'm sort of starting
Starting point is 01:05:59 to savor it a little bit. But I like, I like, no way, really? Bear oil. I'm like, yeah, check it out. And they're like, man, it's just so pure. You would never know that you're eating bear oil. Two gallons is an insane amount compared to some of the bears that I've taken the fat off here in Montana. Have you talked to Clay about the two-gallon mark? Is that, is that a lot for down south too? Man, I just think a lot of it, like that bear, he ended up in $3.88. Craig, the outfiter, felt like had we killed that bear in the fall, he could have easily been $4.88, if not $5.50. Right. Because they're just, and that's pretty much all fat. You know, I'm sure he's gaining some muscle, too, but they're just putting on fat. So I think a lot of
Starting point is 01:06:45 it just depends on what status state you catch in him. I know a guy that killed a giant bear, like a solid six and a half footer here in Montana, and he killed it on the last day of rifle season, which is late November. And, man, he said that they actually spent more time packing fat than meat. Wow. Like there was like in just like weight wise, there was more weight in the fat than there was in the meat. I forget that was like six
Starting point is 01:07:17 six gallons I think that he got like I almost didn't believe him but when he started describing sort of how he said that the fat just sort of there was a layer that just went all the way right down to his paws and then it sort of stopped right where his paw
Starting point is 01:07:30 was but from here it just jutted out and you could just like jiggle the fat all the way up his arms and just all it's covering his entire body so I think just depends on what he's been eating and what time of year it is because that that's you know right before he goes to hibernate that's when
Starting point is 01:07:49 that bear is going to have the most fat on him well let's see uh we know what you're doing with the hide mingus is sleeping on it right now so last question which a ton of folks asked do you plan on doing this hunt again 100% no doubt like i said with any hunt i say it's a lot times to Steve going to Mexico for Cus Deer. I like going the first year to a new ranch because you get to experience a completely new ranch. You don't know anything about it. It's just a 100% mystery, adventure. It's great. You spend a week there. The next year, I'm excited to go back because I have some relationship with that landscape. I'm like, okay, don't need to go to that high point. That one wasn't good. We need to spend time here, here, and here because those were the best glassing
Starting point is 01:08:41 knops, right? That's where the action was. And sort of that gets me excited. And then the third year, you kind of have it, I don't want to say dialed, but you got a pretty good idea of what the program is. And by the fourth year, I'm like, man, let's go to start this process over again, because I just don't want to keep doing the same thing over. I think when you look at it with a baited black bear hunt, it's the same thing. Sure, I went there and experienced it, but it was only three days. Yeah, I was successful. But like, I want to still, there's more there that I did not get to experience yet, right? And again, I think
Starting point is 01:09:14 the next time a giant board comes in, I will recognize that giant board probably sooner and my heart rate might actually be spiking more than it did on this trip. The one thing I would like to do that I think would be fun is that instead of being up in the tree is doing it down on the ground
Starting point is 01:09:31 and just being even that much more intimate with the bears and just being at eye level with them and just seeing how that plays out just again for something different you know maybe tie a beaver carcass around your neck that i'm not going to do no no not going to do that and i'm not going to i'm not going to put any caster uh scent on my boots nothing like that um but yeah i think building like a little ground blind and just set setting up downwind um i think that that'd be a way to do it because as close as you
Starting point is 01:10:08 are 10 feet up in a tree, 10 yards away. If you were on the ground at 7 yards, it'd be that much closer. It'd be cool. So I'll see. Yeah, we've actually booked some spots with Craig for 20, I can't remember it was 27 or 28. So yeah, not a hunt I need to do every single year, but if you're like, hey, let's go up there and hunt a baited bear, kill a baited, bear, come home with some meat. I'm 100% in for every other year. What about you? You've never done a baited black bear hunt, I imagine. No, I haven't. Never had the opportunity. We neighbor a state that allows baited bear hunting in Idaho. Not every unit, but some units. I would totally try it. I'd love to get that close and see that many bears. Yeah, what's interesting about the baiting is a lot
Starting point is 01:11:03 of states regulate it much differently because of course as soon as I came back from Manitoba, I'm calling my friends in Wisconsin saying, hey, have you tried beaver meat? Yeah. Because that's the thing. Right. In Wisconsin,
Starting point is 01:11:16 you can't use any kind of meat product. Oh, really? None. Yeah. Restrictions. Yeah. You can't use any kind of a metal, like fabricated can either.
Starting point is 01:11:27 The bait has to basically be in a, most people will use a hollow stump or a log and put it in there. So yeah. it's uh they restrict it a little bit so if you're gonna go do it you know make sure you know your state's regulations for sure but yeah i 100% want to go back man it was a great time McCarthy's were great people um so awesome camaraderie awesome time and camp and uh yeah just a fun hunt well good yeah baiting bears don't knock it till you try it no i'd like to share it with more people i think Craig mentioned this too. It's like a great animal for people to get their, like, first bow kill, right? There's just a lot of opportunities, you know? Maybe your goal isn't a giant one. Maybe your goal, you go up there and you're just like, oh, I just want to kill an animal with my bow. Well, the shots are nice and close. Lots of opportunities. There you go. Great meat. Another good reason to, you know, to do a baited black bear hunt.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Well, any other topics you want to discuss? No. I wish I would have brought my skull ins. We could have measured it for me and told me if I had a boon or not, but... Well, maybe we'll have to make a little video. We can do that next time. But yeah, thank you guys all for tuning in. And remember, in about a month or so, we'll have, I think one of Clay's episodes will come out.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Or it will be one of Clay's films. Excuse me, Clay. One of Clay's films will come out and you'll be able to punch in your comments on YouTube in Instagram and he will do roughly the same thing. But maybe he'll have Bear or Brent ask the questions instead of Corey because they'll probably do it down in Arkansas.
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