The MeatEater Podcast - Ep. 880: Janis's Manitoba Caribou | 12 in '26

Episode Date: May 25, 2026

Janis Putelis gives behind-the-scenes details and answers viewer questions about his “12 in '26” rifle and archery caribou hunts in Manitoba. Watch the film now on MeatEater's YouTube channel Connect with MeatEater on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, and YouTube Clips Subscribe to MeatEater Podcast Network on YouTubeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hey, everyone. Are you ready for more of the best hunting content on the internet? Good, because we're continuing Meat Eater's 12 and 26 series, featuring a long-form look at 12 of the most significant hunts from the past year. This installment covers my Manitoba archery and rifle, Caribou Expedition, and it is a total banger.

Throughout the episode, we successfully take three years. caribou land countless lake trout and prepare two of the most unique meals we've ever put on film presented by on X maps and multery mobile you can catch the full video right now on the meat eater youtube channel we don't know if they've never seen a human but there's definitely plenty of caribou out here in this landscape that haven't seen humans it's kind of what makes caribou hunting fun right is it like you get to hunt on pressured animals there's just a lot of no whitetel buck ever that would do this. You know.

No. There's probably not an elk in the lower 48 that would do this either. No. I haven't even seen that clip yet. That was beautiful. Mm-hmm. A trailer, whatever that was. All right, welcome to the 12 and 26 podcast.

This is a companion show to our 12 and 26 hunting fish films coming out this year. Hopefully you've already seen my Manitoba bear hunt and Clay and Bears, Alaska, Bear Hunt and Utah Mountain Lion Utah Mountain Lion with Clay where they tree a bunch of mountain lines today I'm joined by Corey Culkins Calkins

I always forget when I read it I know it's Colkins Yes it is and Phil the Engineer To answer your questions about my combined Rifle and Archery Caribou hump Thank you to everyone who wrote in or posted questions on YouTube and social media to give us something to work off here.

The great Corinne Schneider is also in the house, although she says she's going to not say anything. We'll see what happens. Corinne, you need to weigh in if there's something that really is pressing. You have a question about something. Well, now there's no avoiding it. Bill, I sent you a message late last night to have a question too so that you're more of a part of it.

Oh, that was very kind of you, but I didn't have a chance to watch it at 10 o'clock p.m. And then coming in before. this morning to watch it. Son of a gun. All right off the bat, I want to clarify something that Steve has been giving me shit about, not just me,

gives the whole world shit about this. I told him I was taking my bow and my rifle on this trip, and he assumed I'd be bow hunting while carrying my rifle as a backup in case I couldn't get the job done with my archery equipment. Not the case.

My plan was always to rifle hunt first, get some meat, hanging and then focus on killing one with the boat. That way, you know, you do what I wouldn't have that, you know, hanging in the back of my mind as I'm trying to bow hunt being like, oh, I should just like quit this and get my rifle out and shoot one of these things at 200 yards. I brought up with Steve yesterday in the regular podcast and even even though I explained to him my new thinking, it still wasn't enough for him. Although I don't think he actually in the moment yesterday, he, like, thought through what I presented to him.

But we'll give him a while. Maybe he'll come around to it. Yeah. So anyway, I was in Manitoba with Samong Yang of Samong Outdoors and Craig McCarthy of North Mountain Adventures, and we had a great time. Well, the video clip we opened up with there, and if you're only listening, go to your YouTube channel and watch this podcast. It gives us a minor glimpse of how, why, and pristine that part of the world looked. You also described how the area is largely untouched by people. How did this factor of virgin caribou set the grounds for the kind of hunt you'd have?

I don't know if I exactly understand your question there, Corey. I did want to touch on, though, in that opening bit, how we're talking about how, like, a white-tail deer would never do this or an bull elk would never do this. what had happened is that we were like this was after Samong had shot his bull or shot that bull with the arrow and then like we're standing around

doing our thing and then literally like half an hour later more caribou just across the pond just start walking and feeding by and they're like looking over at us like they can see us we're not hiding but they're just like going about their business acting pretty tame

totally we're just like unpressured animals I later found out Well, while we were there, that this place isn't quite as unpressed maybe as some of the places that we've hunted in Alaska. That Alaska is a little bit more remote because I think there's more mountains that are harder to get across with different, you know, whatever types of, you know, vehicles. So we've always done fly-in hunts. And it's just like it's rough enough country where you can't snowmobile into it.

You can't whatever. In Manitoba, northern Manitoba. the locals, the indigenous have like special tags, right, that they can hunt these caribou herds pretty much all winter from I understood. So once the snow comes, like they hunt them on snowmobile. So they're definitely a little more pressured. What we realized too with these caribou, we were hunting them mostly on foot. One time we got in a boat and when they hear an engine on a lake, they're out.

Really? Oh yeah. They know what that means. They like hear that little skiff engine coming and they know that there's hunters coming that are probably going to make loud noises. Yeah, it reminds me of that snowmobile engine too. Yeah, maybe. But like, if you think about it, that's how you access this caribou country. You land on a lake and you drive around a boat on a lake.

And for a lot of people that don't have the physical capability, just to hike, you know, 10 miles a day on tundra, like the way to get close to a caribou is going to be to see one that's like getting pinched by a lake somehow. and then, you know, motorboat over there, pop out of the boat and then hopefully get a shot. Cool. But yeah, I wanted to do this hunt because when we were down there for our, a year ago when I was down there Black Bear hunting, Craig was talking about possibly getting into caribou hunting, and he had this camp that he wanted to check out.

He had never been to, and he was looking for like a group of guys that was sort of do an exploratory trip. And as soon as I heard an exploratory trip, I'm like, man, I'm all over that. Like, that sounds like a good time going into the unknown. Yeah. You know, I mean, stuff's always unknown for me, going to some place the first time. But when everybody there is on kind of the never seen this place before program, it just makes it more fun.

Yeah, more wild. More adventure. That's cool. Well, our first submitted question comes from at Hunter Shut. He asked, did you see any bears and where there's supposed to be any in the area? He gave it a Google search and learned that that. That far north in Manitoba has polar, black, and grizzly bears. Totally.

Did you see any bear? We didn't see a single bear. But the pilots that we talked to were like, oh yeah, sometimes we just instead of going straight down to Churchill, we'll fly over to the coast of Hudson Bay and then fly south. And it adds like 30 minutes to the fly or whatever. And they're like, it's nothing to see, you know, two, three, half dozen polar bears walking around. Wow. So like, we're far enough away from the water that we're probably not going to see a polar bear, but had we seen one, no one's going to be like, oh my gosh, that's amazing. They'd be like, sure, they come through there.

So, yeah, they're around. When we put, I posted a video on my Instagram of when we closed up that shack. You literally cover the place in boards that have nails screwed or hammered all the way through them. Like you basically just take a piece of plastic. plywood, fill it full of nails that are sticking out the far side, and then put it on the windows, on the deck. Like anywhere a bear could try to, like, pry something to get through, like, you literally cover it in, you know, you fortify.

It's going to make it into a fortress. And a lot of people commented, like, oh, you guys are just leaving too much food in there, the stink of, you know, food. It's like you're in there, living in there, you're cooking in there. You can't get rid of that smell. I don't care if you had a whole 55-gallon drum of bacon soda. It's not going to get rid of all the human smell. And bears are curious.

They're going to want to get in there. When you're in that kind of remote place, the same thing happens in all remote places where bears are. You have to protect your buildings because they will just shred them, you know? And they'll get inside and then just make a giant mess. Yeah. Like you said, beyond just the smell of food and caribou meat and blood, they're just curious.

They love to get into stuff. Oh, yeah. I think that's the, yeah. I mean, that's just a super small factor of like while they're getting in there would be like the dead meat smell around there. Yep. All right. Next topic. A lot of folks asked about how to plan their own caribou hunt.

If you need to apply for tags as a non-Canadian, do you need to use a guide or an outfitter, etc? I won't read the individual questions, but can you address the tag system for caribou in Canada? And can you do it yourself or do you need a guide as a non-resident? Yeah, I've only hunted, I'm trying to think now, hunted BC, and I personally haven't hunted. It was when Steve hunted and Cal hunted, and I was just there as part of the crew, and then I've hunted Manitoba twice now.

And I believe that across Canada, there is no DIY option. Like you're going to, as a non-resident, for residents, sure, have at it. But as a non-resident, you're going to have to go through an outfitter. And basically the outfitters have, have like these zones, concessions they call them,

and they're allotted so many tags in their concession, and then they can do what they want with them and sell them to whoever. There is a limit, though, like for, let's just say Craig had, I don't know, 50 caribou tags for that concession up there. Even though he has 50, it's just you and I for the entire season, and we paid him as much money as he needed to be happy, you and I couldn't each kill 25. We're still limited by the government to two.

Gotcha. Craig, this year is charging, sorry, if you're going to book, it'd be next year. So it's going to be $14,000 for one caribou and $2,500 if you want to shoot a second one. I honestly don't think, it worked out good for us because we, again, wanted to get some meat, and then we wanted to have fun bow hunting. but like I really don't feel like you need to go on this trip thinking you need to kill two animals. I think caribou hunting has kind of sometimes had that. I don't know. Just like you know you're going to hopefully go see a bunch of animals and like you hate to like kill one the first day.

And then you don't have anything else to hunt for the rest of the time you're there. But like honestly now that I've done it a bunch, like one tag is plenty. Really? It's like if you, yeah, sure. If you are trigger happy, you're just going to have to really control yourself or have a good wingman that can be. be like, nope, it's not the one you want to shoot, Corey. There's a bigger ones out there. Let's wait. But anyways, yeah, so if you're going to do it in Canada,

you're going to have to go through an outfitter, find them. These pricers are definitely still, well, it's cheaper for a guided hunt. I still, I think, in Canada than in Alaska for a guided caribou hunt. But in Alaska, you can still do DIY because caribou is one of the species that in Alaska you don't have to have a guide for. And so, you know, I'm guessing if you just go with a transporter, you know, you probably still do a caribou hunt for five to eight DIY style, you know, counting everything. Obviously, you'd have to buy a tag in Alaska. But if you're going to do Canada, like you just got a book with the outfitter, he's going to, he or she, they're going to have the tags for you covered.

Yeah, make a more streamlined, more enjoyable too, going with an outfitter. Well, I mean, it just depends on what you want to do Yeah, sure You know, I think for, there are a lot of us that Like, the reason I did that with Craig is because One, you had to, but like it sounded like a good It sounded like an adventure, you know? Had he been like, oh yeah, I also had this caribou hunt

That I've been doing for 10 years We go to this lake, you're going to catch a bunch of fish And it kind of told me what's going to happen Maybe I wouldn't be so interested, you know? True. But I think a lot of people like the, you know, the possibility of going on to DIY adventure because it just does add adventure. You know, you don't know the outcome. Where when you go outfitted, I don't want to say you're guaranteed, but, you know. Yeah, get to look at a brochure and see the terrain and potentially the animals. Yep, both sides. Less unknown. Yep. It was interesting watching you guys spot Caribou, which didn't seem too difficult to find Caribou. No.

Then to watch you guys strategize how to stock and close the distance in that terrain in the tundra and decide when and if it was worth pursuing those caribou you saw. Here's a clip from Phil. There's some caribou right to the left of that. Oh yeah, I see you. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. That's the longest it's ever taken me. It just fought an animal.

Yeah, so you can see we're looking. a caribbean in the distance you can every direction we look or the camera looks you can see there's water around and so you can you can never really walk in a straight line to the animals that you're seeing um and i think this is this is just what we were calling day zero so it's like a 400 incher i'd say let's go but i mean we had to like swim a couple of lakes to get to yeah well i think we can go right through the middle here to get around it but don't you think i mean that's like an hour Yeah. Probably.

We hadn't, well, we're still watching. Craig and I are debating how far we want to walk here. Does this one keep going for a while? No, that's over. All right. So, yeah, like, Tundra comes in many different forms. This one didn't have the dreaded Tussacks that can be so just,

tiring. Is that the spongy bottom? No, it's the tussock is the best way I heard someone describe it. It's like taking a three-quarters inflated volleyball tethering it to the ground and you grow some grass on top of it. And they're just perfectly spaced where you can never decide if you're going to step on top of it and possibly have it move a little bit or step between them. And it's just, it just wears your butt out. Like we once were on a hunt with Steve and Brent And we were going to another We were just going to another glass and knob That was in the distance

Just because we want to see some new country And we got halfway there on the Tussacks And the whole crew was like Mutiny, we just quit We said we're going back to our original one Because no one wanted just to do Tussacks For the next hour or whatever it was, you know And what boots are you wearing? Are you in like muck boots

Most of the time? Well, it just depends on how wet it is Yeah. I brought both on this trip. It looked like I saw a lot of muck boot. Yeah, but I ended up wearing the hiking boots more. Okay. Because again, this stuff, when we first were looking at it,

I thought, man, it's going to take a long time to cover the country. It didn't end up being quite so bad. So we actually ended up some of that stuff that originally we thought might be too far for like, you know, a poke didn't end up being that bad. But we were easily going like two miles one direction, like for a stalk. It's tricky. It's also pretty flat out there and so you're always just trying to find

some sort of terrain undulation to get between you and the animals to, you know, to hijit so you can close the distance. And you mentioned all the water. You guys had a boat, but the water was probably not all connected. Exactly.

So you had to pick a route around it. Yeah. Yeah. Now the one I ended up killing with my bow, that one, it was close enough to our lake that it made sense to get in the boat, motor up to the end of the lake, and then get out and stalk from there. Nice. Made for an easier pack out too. Oh, yeah. Here's more of that strategizing on the spot

and stock from Samong's rifle hunt. It also seems like you guys really have been seeing tons of caribou at this point. The caribou race is on. Maybe if we get along that shoreline, we'll get some cover. So this is still day zero. You're not. calling it right yeah day zero stock and what happens often with caribou is that like from the knob you're sitting on at first you can't see them all you think you can but the little folds and creases just hide animals and so you start moving towards one group and then like a different group pops up which is what these are so we're like you know just running into other caribou

two small bulls, they're youngsters, they're very curious. Yeah, these younger animals that haven't been on the landscape as long, they maybe haven't seen people, and so a lot of times when they see you, especially when you just duck down and kind of get low, they're like, oh, what's that? They actually come towards you.

Really? Yeah, they're coming this way. I think we can cover off on some of the gear questions, too. A bunch of people asked about the binoculars. I was using the Sig, Zulu 6 is the image stabilized, which for hunts like these when you don't need to know exactly

like you're not counting inches you just need to know if it's like a bull or a cow or if it's a caribou or a rock it's hard to hard to beat those uh now how close were you guys able to get on samong's caribou man it wasn't far

couple hundred yards beautiful Yeah, I remember I kept, he was dialing, he was using my rifle, and I kept having to retail in the distance, and he kept having to back it down. The bipod, a lot of people asked about two, that's the MDT triple pull, which is, it's kind of a mega bipod. You've used one too, I'm sure. I've shot off one, yep.

Yeah. It's great for what I would consider, like, front country or country where I really know that there's not going to be anywhere to get prone because the brush is going to be too thick and tall, you know, and there's not going to be other things to lay on to just give you the, you know, a prone position

or anything else to rest on. And like Tundra is classic, like just brush country, right? And so having a super tall biopod like that, it allows you to, you know, shoot from anywhere and you're getting a really stable position, you know? You can shoot from your knees,

you can shoot from your butt. I mean, and obviously if you want, you can get low enough to shoot prone too with that bipod. But it's heavy. They're stout. And I'm not going to carry it in a backpack overnight. But like with my kids on a front country hunt, I'm always carrying that thing. Yeah. Good stability.

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we never cooked stomach or tripe. We finally did it in Manitoba, and it was great. Here's another clip. Oh, with that, though, yes. I do need to keep the stomach. So gut them out you would, but once you get the stomach out, I'll grab him from me. Craig was like, wait, what?

The stomach? You said traditional, so I'm like, that's the most traditional thing I know. Samong hadn't told us what he was going to make. Oh, okay, nice surprise. Generic than you might think it's a stew, but when it comes to this stuff, it's your stew, but you just throw the stomach lying into it. Try it. I'll clean the stomach and we just only eat the stomach.

Like, we're not going to eat the stomach contents. Yeah. Normally, if you want to, like, you would pack the stomach, you'd pack liver. You would basically take this whole thing. Yeah. You would just obviously dump the contents. Yeah. Now, normally, I would try to keep the stomachs organized.

I'm assuming a caribou's like a deer where they have four stomachs. You're just listening. Samong's over the gut pile explaining this to Craig. They have four different stomachs. So if you really want to be technical about it, you separate all four stomachs. To me, a stomach is a stomach. Yeah. I don't really care.

They taste the same. I don't know a difference. Yeah. So with this one, because I'm only taking just a little bit just for us to eat, I'm basically just going to start here, just somewhere here so that I don't take anything else. Then I'm just going to take a little bit of a lining. So this one's already coming off pretty easy. I use a completely different knife for this situation, which is why I'm using mine and I'm

not letting you use yours. Right. So basically this is it. You would take this stomach and I've never done it with Caribou, so I'm actually curious to see how this goes. Now you would just take this and just wipe it. wipe off as much as you can, but you can see how this caribou's stomach is really, really soft. I just did that and it comes off.

With the deer and elk, it's a little bit more hardy. Yeah. So clean this out, rinse it out. Yeah. And then when you boil it, you boil it by itself, just pure water. And this top membrane right here will just peel off. Right. And then you have the white actual, like, stripe in the bottom.

Right. And then once you clean that, wash it again, then you can just throw in your soup. Throw it in your soup. Throw it in your soup. That's it. Long's now rinsing the stomach lining in the lake. And then he just dropped it into a pot of boiling water. Now he's prepping some vegetables for the actual soup.

And did I hear he rinses and repeats numerous times? Yeah. Yeah, with the boiling part. Okay. You, uh, you kind of, you're boiling the green kind of out of it and then replacing, replacing the water and going again. Quite a process. I don't think it really took that long.

No, okay. No. It looks like mushrooms. It looks different, but honestly, it's like flavorless. All it is like a, it's just a texture. It's just like a weird, you know, texture. It looks just like morel mushrooms. Yeah, definitely does have a morel mushroom look to it.

So do I rice it with the tripe or just eat the tripe? Yeah, I have everything in one bite. I'm a fan. Looks good. Yeah, it just tastes like the, uh, it tastes like the, uh, it tastes like, like the bone broth. It's just a texture really. That's what it is. I mean, it literally is just broth. It's just a lot of times the flavor will favor whatever meat you're throwing in there. That's what we call it deer stew, elk

stew, whatever it is, because that usually drives the actual flavor of the broth. Meets hard to come by in Laos way back then and even today. Sure. And so if you kill an animal, when you're trying to feed a village or in this case, you're seven kids, which was very common to have multiple kids back then, one piece of steak isn't going to feed a whole village or a whole family. So the best way to distribute the amount of quantity of the food that you might have is just stew. Okay, a couple of questions came in around the flavor of caribou. Like somebody asked if it tasted Manitoba caribou tastes different than Alaskan caribou.

I don't think so. They all eat lichen. So they taste the same as far as I know. I don't have that, I guess, discerning or a high-level palette. Caraboo meat is extremely lean. Everybody's like, oh, well, deer's lean. This is even leaner. Like they'll say out there to survive the winter, you can't just have caribou meat.

You have to have the salmon to have the fat. You'll die. So, yeah, super lean. I don't know. very very venison like i don't know if it has if there was a lineup of you know elk deer and caribou backstraps i don't know if i could really pick them out this on flavor i'd pick them out more on chewiness because i always think the elk are more chewy than the other ones um clarification too uh samong said four stomachs the stomach actually has it's one stomach with four sacks in it

you know, like four compartments that sort of do the business of, of, what's the word, Corinne? Digestion, thanks. Like all ruminants. Yeah. And Corey asks, how is the tongue? No boil. It was great. Yeah, look good.

Just like Randy Brown said. So we had him on, which I think are some great episodes. Although I feel like Steve missed a whole bunch of questions when we had him back. I wish I had been in there for that. Need him on again. About living in the bush in Alaska. Great episodes. But he told us that like caribout tongue was a real delicacy.

And like you could eat it immediately. Like no slow and low prep needed for it. And so we gave it a shot. Like just washed it basically. Sliced it up. I don't know. Half inch. I maybe could have done the slices a little bit thinner.

But again, I didn't mind it. And we just fried them up in a pan with some butter. That was good. Did you peel the outer skin? No, no peeling. Okay, well. Just ate it all up. It just wasn't, like, and it must have something to do with their diet, right?

That they're just eating the liking and they don't have to, they're not like browsing as much as moose or elk, I guess. Yeah. Or elk don't really browse with deer. And maybe that's why it makes it the whole thing more tender. But no, it was good. I would do the same thing again. Well, good work. Tongue to stomach.

Eat it and all. Why not? Let's see. We're going to show some of the footage from Yanni's rifle stock. It almost looks too easy. Real quick, though. Someone wants to know what about your rifle and the caliber setup that you guys were using. That was the Cig Cross. It had a proof barrel on it, which is kind of custom. I got it done super short. I think it's like an 18-incher. Because I like to run the suppressor on it. We couldn't use suppressors in Canada, so I just had the break on it. Okay. But the caliber was 6.5 PRC.

And yeah, it was great for this, you know. I was expecting a longer shot, but I ended up getting a shot so close. I was wishing I had my bow with me at the moment. Yeah. Well, let's see that clip, Phil. They're walking literally towards us. Yeah.

Yeah, so we're packing out Samong's bowl on our backs right now, going back towards camp. and all of a sudden these bulls just show up and they're like we got the wind in our face and they're coming at us and i was kind of almost like eh let's just like let him be let's go back to camp and we'll you know deal with some mung's meat we'll reassess and then i started looking at the bulls i'm like oh a couple of them are pretty nice you know and i thought yeah if i get one killed now i get more time with my bow so So yeah, we got in ahead of them.

And it's funny too, man. Like, these guys seem just oblivious to us. Again, it's not just the three of us. There's two camera guys there too. And we're not like super well hidden. We kind of get into this like sparse copse of evergreens. And there's some bushes around. But like compared to some of the other caribou that we ran into later in the week

that would like, you know, at 200. yards, CS&B Bugging, these guys just were, like, no care in the world, like, not... Walking towards you. Not, not, yeah. Like, the whole time I'm wish, I'm like, man, wish I had my bow. I wish I had my bow. Yeah. Because how close is this?

Oh, like, right now, they're maybe 80, 90, and, like, I think I, I shoot him at, like, I shoot him at bow range. I forget what it was. It was, like, 40 yards or something. That's incredible. Maybe 50 yards. Yeah, look at him. And you can see, I shoot a hard horn.

one. So Hmong shot one that still had his velvet on his antlers. Part of that group of bulls also still had velvet antlers. Are you kidding me? The velvet, some people just get a real kick out of velvet antlers for whatever reason.

I don't find them sexy, appealing at all. All the caribou hunts I've ever been on if they had velvet on them, we would peel it. It's hard to preserve it in the field. Like if you want it, you know, for your mount at home,

you got to like take real good care of it. And if it's early in the hunt, it's going to be warm, the flies get to it, and they start laying eggs in it, you end up with maggots in the velvet, and it can just be a mess. And it looked like you were laid enough into here. What were you there in August?

I think it was September. September, that they were about to lose their velvet anyway. Obviously, that one you shot at our... Yeah, I mean, both the ones I shot were hardhorn. Okay. So yeah, they were just like, they were in the process. They're bound to come off soon anyway. I think the bigger ones had maybe do it a little bit earlier

because it seemed like the smaller, younger bulls had more velvet. Well, you mentioned in that clip that that was a first for you to shoot an animal while packing out another one. Yeah, have you ever done that? Twice. Oh. Antelope hunting. Oh, I could see it with an antel. And had it on my backpack and was walking out.

And I had a dough tag with me and shot a dough really close to the truck, which was great opening day. You know, they're all running around like crazy. And then another time was just on a cow hunt on a ranch I used to work at. Shot the cow was actually just dragging it down to the truck. And more elk came over and a buddy was able to fill his elk tag. So it wasn't quite packing it out, but dragging it out. Yeah. It happens. Totally. Rare though. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty cool. We again, I'm not going to like try to, uh, you know, hide it. Like we have five people there. and so if it's only two of you, you might be like,

eh, let's not shoot one because we still got to deal with this first animal and then gonna have to, you know, pack the other one out. But with five people, it's like pretty easy

to, you know, to pack out two caribou. They're not huge animals. Yeah. You know? Like how heavy was all the meat and the antlers, would you say?

I think very similar to a mule deer. A mule deer. Yeah, like a mature mule deer. Like, you know, you know, 10 to 20% bigger than a white tail buck. They're just, it's, I don't know what it is about a caribou,

but even when you're glassing them and you've seen them on the hoof, they look huge. And I don't know if it's like the crazy coloration of them compared to like our deer, or if it's their, their antlers are obviously a lot bigger. But when you kill one, you walk up to it, it's a little bit like, oh, yeah, they're not that big, you know? Oh, I don't know. Where are we at here on this script?

Let's see. Talked about velvet. Life on the Island Drive said, wanted to know first sighting in the wild, do they look bigger or smaller than you expected? It's kind of what I was just talking about. It's like when you see them, they look huge, and you walk up to them when they're dead,

and they're not quite as big. I mean, the antlers are big. They are. But the body itself, like I said, is not, it's like maybe calf elk. You know? Yeah. Yeah.

Like you're going to probably yield, I don't know, 50, 60 pounds. 70 max off a big old giant bowl. And you talked about velvet. Mitchell Horner asked how come the velvet was cleaned off when back at camp. Did you guys clean it off that camp or out in the field? Just strip it off. Yeah.

Yeah, the next day. Yeah, it comes off super easy. Really? Yeah. And the thing is, that's why I don't like shooting them in velvet because if you're going to peel it off, it doesn't have that cool coloration that a hard antlered one does. Is it real bleach white under there? Yeah, it's kind of like,

it's like bloody and bleach white, you know, and you kind of, you want to make it look brown. You got to kind of do it yourself and it never looks quite, right? And so I much prefer one that's, you know, rubbed his blood with, you know, the stains of bushes and dirt and all that. And just, I don't know, looks way cool. Lord. Let's see. Moving on. Graham underscore McCutcheon asks if you can explain how to properly age a caribou and how old were the

caribou you and Samong harvested. No idea. I guess you'd have to send a, on the hoof, ageing them. No idea. You could send a jawbone in, I'm sure to, some biologists in Canada, and they tell you how old it is. But Samong's is definitely on the younger side. You know, I'd probably guess it was no more than, you know,

two or three years old. And I don't know, just guessing mine might have been a couple years older than that. I noticed in the video, mostly bowls that were made the film. Did you see many cows and calves wandering around too? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

But you know, they aren't as sexy, so the editor, you know, doesn't put them in as much. Cinematographers did a beautiful job out there with you. Okay, so you both killed caribou with your rifle.

Then you turned your focus to hunting with a bow. You got your legs under you with more lay of the land and how the caribou around there were behaving, but now you have a harder hunt in front of you in terms of getting within bow range and trying to find enough cover in that open country. Play the clip, Phil.

We have this group of bull up closer. They all started getting up and feeding around. We decided to get into this band of tray that kind of goes right directly towards them. But it ends probably about 100 to 150 yards to where the garibou are. They're not really in a spot where it's all kind of just... Yep, not a lot of cover.

You know, I've learned with any of these animals when you're bow hunting and you're just trying to get in tight or your shotgun hunting a turkey or whatever, you just like patience pays so well because eventually, like if you're looking at a situation and it's not in your favor,

don't push it. Sure, you might pull it off, but hopefully you have time and you can just be patient and let the animal move into a position that is way more favorable for you to, you know, get in tight on. Yeah, I agree.

Odds of letting nature do its thing and the animal, potentially getting close to you or probably higher than you pushing it, bumping the animal, never see again. Just like stay in the vicinity, you know, shadow them, watch them. And then next thing you know, there's just like the perfect little hill. And all you can see is the top of his antlers. And, you know, you just literally walk right over to the hill. And at the end, you got to crawl maybe 10 or 20 yards and you're within range.

as opposed to just trying to belly crawl across some 100-yard open expanse. It's just like probably not going to work, you know. Take it away, Yanni. Oh, what's our next one? Run into the caribou much closer than you thought. Oh. You had to back up to make sure

bulls wouldn't see or smell you. Yeah. And then Samong dove in for his opportunity. Yeah, again, with caribou, man, you just can't, you never know which direction they're going. You think they're all kind of moving, and then they're all kind of moving north-south, and they're just all over the place.

And so you're just kind of in the zone until it just works out. And Samong was up first, and so he kind of was ahead of us. And we actually ended up like mirroring him and then kind of coming back together right when he was actually getting into it. And what happened is that these bulls sort of fed

and got pushed up against this lake. and one was bedded when we finally got to them. So I don't know if they were there because the lake had maybe reprieve from the mosquitoes because it was like a little wind blowing across it. Hard to say. Maybe they were just there to get some water. But that edge, you know, and having some woods nearby allowed Samong to get within full range pretty easily.

Cool. Well, here's a clip of Samong's archery stock. Yep, Samong's. Hats off to Max and Eli for capture. That's a nice shot, isn't it? Beautiful. I mean, the foliage helps, but man, they just nailed it. Samong just drew on his knees, and he stands up.

He's got the perfect cover. Both bulls have their heads down. He takes a shot. I think he says it was 40, 45. Runs right at him. Runs at him, and then into this shallow lake. And then out the other side. Just did a big loop.

Blood pouring down the side. At least it looks it swimming through the water. Yeah. He gets out and looks pretty unscathed at that point, other than the hole in the side of his. Totally. Yeah, then he's running. What's boring out of him.

Yeah, this is, you know, we can talk a lot about what happens here. You know, Samong decides it's like a bunch of blood, especially when you see that shot right there. You're like, oh, my God, his side is, both sides are literally painted. I think a lot of that, the reason that it got so painted, the water helped with that, right? It sort of lubricated the fur, lubricated the side.

I don't know what it would have looked like had that not happened, but I don't think it quite would have been that dramatic. But it's very clear to see anybody that's hunted long enough and shot animals, bows, or rifles knows that that shot there, it does not kill animals.

I call it the no zone. The no zone. Yeah, I often used to think, I thought for a long time that it was actually this thing called The Void, where you're between the spine and the lungs, which is not a thing, I now believe. It's not a thing. The body does not work that way.

There is no room in there. But what there is, above the spine, is a whole bunch of a thing called the backstrap and the loin and meat and fat and fur. And I think a lot of people that think they hit the void actually probably ran it through, you know, the hump on the backstrap. And so yes,

Samong chooses because he drew blood to basically notch his tag. Craig tells him that, yeah, that's actually it wasn't Craig's rule, but a lot of outfitters in Manitoba. And I think a lot of outfitters in general will have that rule that like if you draw blood, that's, you know, your tag, your hunts over.

Really makes you think about your shot just a little more. Yeah, hopefully. I mean, I think that would be the goal that like, you know, make sure you're going to get it done when you take the shot. Yeah. but a couple of things to address I think in the YouTube comments and I feel like it gets a little

arm cherry here with these comments that people are like telling you what you should have done afterwards and like I said the shot itself that one in particular did not kill that animal like I'm 100% sure of it

those animals will take wounds like that from the tines of other animals you know it could get jumped on by a wolf and the teeth of a wolf could, you know, make a wound like that. It's just, it's not a vital hit, you know? You're not like, and that's like a classic when you're as an elk hunting guide, you two, you know, for a dozen years I did it. It's like a classic muscle hit.

And it doesn't matter if it's in the backstrap or like straight in the shoulder and you don't get the penetration to get into the vitals or it could be in the rear ham. It's like the first 100 yards, maybe 200 yards. you're like, hell yeah, like nice blood trail. And then the next thing you know, it just starts going less and less and less, and then it's pin drops, and then it just disappears.

Because it'd be no different than if it happened to you. Like you could like gash your forearm right now and then start running towards downtown. And for the first couple hundred yards, it's going to be pretty easy to follow you. But eventually it's going to coagulate, start drying up, and I'm not going to be able to,

track your blood anymore. And you're not going to die from that wound. But the first 100 yards, I'd be like, holy shit. Corey's going down. But it's just not going to happen. Like even if you lost a couple of pints of blood, I don't think it's like you're not going to go down. Yeah.

People asked too about why didn't we go after it with like a wound with the rifle. It like, it honestly didn't cross our minds. We didn't have a rifle with us. Yes, we could have gone back. Let me go back to one more thing. before we eventually, because we stand there long enough, we're talking, we're filming,

we're discussing this situation. At first we were like, okay, we'll give it a couple hours and then we'll start tracking him. The bull pops up on a distant hillside. You can tell it's him because you can see the dried blood on his side and he's feeding. When I saw that, I'm like, he's fine.

Like one that's going to die that, night or that you're going to sneak up to because he's wounded and get another arrow in, it's not just like chilling and up and feeding anymore, you know? Like, again, that arrow just went through muscle. Like, it's just not, it's like he's not losing enough blood to die. So, yeah, at that point in time, we could have been like, oh yeah, let's go back to camp and get a rifle and we can maybe go re-find him and kill him. It would have been a thing to do for sure. Honestly, it just did not cross our mind. Samong was like, notching my tag, I'm done.

Yeah. That was the end of it. Would have been nothing wrong with going after it and trying to kill it. We may or may not have been able to find it. I don't think we would have found a wounded animal and being able to sort of do like a follow-up shot, you know? Yeah, were they migrating through at that point? Like, give it overnight a day later. That group could maybe be sticking around, but he could be, but yeah, like we never saw him again.

Yeah, you never did. Yeah, I don't think we ever saw the same caribou two days in a row. Yeah. And probably not even from morning to evening. Like, they're just moving that much, you know? So. All right, onto my archery hunt. Yeah, let's see.

Kegsraj underscore 09 asks, which arrow broadhead did you use? How heavy was it? And similarly, at Hunter J-Town wants to know what site you were running. So what was your archery setup? there. Yeah, it was the ball was the Matthews LyftX. I was running a ripped TKO

arrow with a 200 grain iron wheel single bevel with bleeders on it. Total arrow weights about 500 grains. Kyle Davidson from DCA arrows builds those arrows for me. If you

want a really sweet built arrow, highly can't recommend Kyle enough. he dials it in specifically to, you know, all of your specs. And my arrows really fly good every time I get them from him. The site was a three-pin Matthews Bridgelock UV slider is the model. It's not made by Matthews, but it's like a co-lab with, I guess UV is the company. But yeah, I usually run pretty simple, just three horizontal pins. uh,

Western and Caribou, something like that, they'll have my pins at 30, 40, and 50. And then when I go into the white tail woods, I'll crank them back so that my pins go 20, 30, 40.

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Head to firstlight.com. That's f-I-R-S-T-L-I-T-E.com. a guy said that we were given Samong a little too much love and that he seemed like a really good guy but he wounds a lot of animals and makes poor short shot choices. He then normalizes it by saying that it's a part of hunting, in quotes,

is a major problem with YouTube hunting influencers and there is a whole generation of hunters growing up thinking it is okay and normal to occasionally lose an animal. Yes, it happens, he says. So I feel like he's sort of what's the word for that? not dialing back, but he's like saying one thing, but then saying it's okay. Yeah, contradicting himself.

Thanks, Corinne. And he says it's too often for hunters like Samong, and the portrayal of it is just off, again, in quotes. If a hunter is losing animals as often as Samong does, he needs to take a step back and seriously analyze and make changes, not blow it off consistently with, in quotes, that is part of hunting. I disagree with this person. I think that the reason it seems like Samong is showing more of this,

and I've had people say the same thing about me watching my videos. It's because we show all of it. I can very easily not show all of my poor shots and the misses and all of that. And you'd go, oh, man, Yanni just kills shit left and right. Man, that guy's a good shot. It's just, it is a part of hunting. Nobody out there is perfect. and that's why we're always talking about

when you're not perfect, what bullet do you want the animal to hit? What arrow and broadhead do you want the animal to hit when you're not the best that you can beat? And you didn't make the perfect shot and you hit into the shoulder. That's why I shoot the heavy arrow, right? So hopefully it still does go through the bone and whatever.

And again, I think it's because he's like open enough and humble enough and confident enough to show everything that happens out there that you get to see the highs and loads. And then to act like only YouTube hunting influencers, yes, does he and I hunt more than the average person? 100%. But I think, like, as a percentage of our hunts,

I don't think that either one of us are like losing more animals than anybody else. Like, it happens. Like growing up, like in deer camp, people wound a deer. Every, you know, deer camp. You know, there'd be one or two probably. I don't know. especially doing drives, which we grew up doing, when you're shooting at running deer.

Like, yeah, you're always trying to follow up on them and get them, but, like, it is a part of hunting. And if you have some unbelievable record where you're right now in your head saying, well, I've been hunting 12 years and I've killed this many animals, I've never lost one. I'm like, well, good for you. I applaud you.

I think you've had some luck on your side, and like, it's going to happen to you. Yeah. Oh, as an ex-hunting guide, 18 years, like average eight clients a year, it'll make you sick the number of wounded animals that Yeah, both rifle and both. It's not just an archery thing.

100%. It's not just an archery thing. No. So, yeah, I think it is completely normal to occasionally lose an animal. It does happen. And again, I think you're just seeing it more in Samung's case because, yeah, he does hunt more

and he's like cool enough to actually show you that it goes both ways, you know? that he makes mistakes. Yep. Hats off to that. All right. Now we can do my stalk, Phil. You could crawl right as the winds in your favorite.

Still rocking that lucky Wired to Hunt hat. That hunt was good to me. Or that hat was good to me last year. So I'm stalking the same two bulls that I had played cat and mouse with for hours in the morning. And we had bumped them enough times and they kind of ran off that we left them

and went back to our cabin, went up on the glass and knob, and then refound them, and they were bedded. And we really had nothing better going. So we're like, well, let's go back and give them another shot. I could see that one was bedded for sure.

I couldn't tell what the other one was doing. And basically I'm just trying to figure out how to get there. And it would have been interesting to see, you know, you're never going to know, but there was a little point of trees. I think that I leave to get into this next clump of trees that they're on the other side of. I probably could have just sat in those trees,

and I think they maybe would have fed by me, just by the way they got up and what they started to do. You never know. This obviously ended up being the right move. The one caribou gets up. I think it's the one that I end up putting an arrow into. And I just kind of get into this local. clump of trees that they're on the other side of.

And the one, surprisingly, just like comes right at me. And I thought I was going to end up with a frontal shot. And I don't know if he saw me or if it was just like the path through there was too thick, but he decided not to do it and kind of went around me at like 15, 20 yards. And I thought I was going to get a shot in that one lane you can see just left to my back there. And I give him the other. old m'r and instead of stopping. He didn't like that.

Like he had stopped but I had brush and then he takes a step and I m'erp and he like just trots out into the open a little bit. Luckily I had one, you can't really see it from the camera's angle but I had a opening the size of a football and he just happened to stop where I could just see his, you know, lower vitals and let him have the shot. So timber. Yeah. You could feel your adrenaline.

Oh, yeah. Well, it's like it had been long, because this was really our last day to hunt. And the, you know, you hunt long enough with the bow that you start to think like, oh, it's never going to happen. It's never going to happen. But you just keep pushing on and keep pushing on. And then all of a sudden it's like, all of a sudden, it just gels. And the universe is like, here you go. here's a caribout 25 yards

and it happens and I think like after four days of trying you sort of get this like pent up energy you know and so when you finally release that arrow and it's a good shot and the animal tips over yeah it's a pretty big flood yeah and it's good stuff man

looked like a hell of a shot he didn't go 20 yards 30 yards something like that I mean just enough to try it out there it actually was I don't want to say grotesque but the footage, we actually cut it a little bit sooner because he trots out there, stops, and almost like tips and puts his nose on the ground,

and when his head comes back up, the amount of blood that comes out of his nostrils in his mouth is like, it looks like gallons. I mean, it's pretty... Real. Grusome, real. It's just raw. You know, it's just like...

YouTube algorithm wouldn't have helped us out there. Yeah, I don't care about that, but it's just like there's a little... bit of respect, you know, for the animal to show, too. It's like, do we really need to watch that? I don't. It's like, you know, made a good shot. You ran out there and he died. Yeah. So anyways, yeah, it was sweet. It was like just what you hoped for. It was beautiful lighting late in the day. You know, then you can actually sit back and just enjoy the view, you know, because the work is done. Yeah. And then how far were you from camp there? You had the boat. We had the boat.

It was short. It was like half mile to the boat. Oh, and then. Beautiful. Yeah. And then, you know, a nice ride back. Get to pack out every ounce. That's easy.

Yeah. Oh, Corrin just dropped in a question. He said that a couple folks criticized me for holding my bow by the string. They've never bow hunted before. I've never, like, I've asked people about that. Like, Phil Larson, who built a bunch of strings for me over the years. I asked him about it. He had no problem with it.

I've asked the guys at Matthew. no problem with it. I can't imagine with the amount of tension that those strings go through that you holding it by the string does anything to it. Exactly.

And actually when you store a recurve bow, you actually supposed to store it by hanging it from the string. Like right over where the riser meets the limb. That's sort of like the recommended method of storing a recurve.

When I'm bushwhacken, I like to hold it by the string, so then my string's not, I know exactly where my string's at. It's not as exposed. to get hung up on something every little stick or twig or get hung up on a root. I mean, you carry them so much that I end up carrying them a lot of times they're up on my neck. Sometimes I'm hanging by the riser, sometimes by the handle, in all different ways.

So, yeah, I mean, I just pack that thing around for miles and miles and miles every fall. So anyways. Speaking of so, the John Fox, 007 asks, how many miles do you think you hiked on average? A day, I don't know. five to ten somewhere in there it was like decent hiking but not like crazy like enough that we were tired at the end of the day you know crossing that tundra there's no trails you're you're hiking on you know it's kind of half squishy it's kind of you know not great walking yeah but uh yeah it wasn't mega hiking another question from austin baricloe wants to know what is harder to do archery elk

or archery caribou, and what's the difference? I would say archery elk hands down would be harder, in my opinion. One of the major differences is that the caribou are just less pressured, even though they have pressure. Like I said, we realize that as the week went on and the things that we learned, but they still are not getting the, I think, the average pressure of an average public land bull that I'm hunting. Now, sure, if you're going to go hunt some really cool ranch They used to guide on them

Then I might say it's maybe half dozen You know, one to the others Sure. It's kind of, it might be the same. But I think it comes down to pressure And I just think that like a public land elk is just You know, it's getting way more pressure And the thing too with elk versus caribou And again, it's not always like this with caribou

but hopefully if you're in the right spot and you get dropped in the right spot you're going to get opportunity after opportunity after opportunity where with elk a lot of times you get like an opportunity in hopefully a day sometimes three days

sometimes five days you get one shot you know like and I'm not talking about a shot like with like when you release an arrow I'm talking about like a shot to make a stock to get close and if you mess that up it's like they run over the hill and who knows maybe they stop on the other side of the mountain

maybe they go two drainage is over you don't know and you got to like restart and for Caribou restarting meant like go back to the high point get up top and like find the next bowl that you want to stock and usually within pretty short order

so yeah I would definitely say that archery elk is harder the terrain is harder you're at altitude there's definitely more vert and involved. But yeah, you're not getting the amount of opportunities, you know. I think caribou is like, I don't say it's perfect for archery hunting, but like,

if you hit it right, like if everybody ever watched the episode of Meat Eater with Doug Duren and Mark Canyon, like that was one of the coolest caribou hunts we've ever been on. And I mean, we just were in it. And every day, it's just so many caribou, you know. And everybody, I think, shot their caribou. pretty close probably to bow range. Like I don't think anybody made a shot over 100 yards. You know what I mean?

And in it lining up the migration and just being obviously there with the caribou. Yeah, I mean, and I think that's up to your outfitter or your transporter and where they drop you. Yeah. And you definitely hear stories of like dudes getting dropped and they don't see a

caribou for a week or they see a calf and a calf in a week's time, right? Like you'd hope that the outfitter just didn't take your money and just dropped you somewhere, but I mean, that does happen. So that's why it's always worth like getting some referrals and

checking with prior clients and, you know, make sure you're going with the right people. They're going to do their best to get you ahead or right into the middle of a big wad of them, you know? You know, there's another question. Somebody was a couple of people asked about us not wearing camouflage.

Oh, yeah. And how the outfiter was wearing camouflage. Listen, like, we sent Craig. He probably requested what he wanted. We sent him a bunch of first light, you know? You probably sent it to him. Yep, that's one of my job. He probably requested the camo. Yeah, I think so. You probably didn't choose it. No, that was all in. And I think Simone got to choose

whatever he got to, camo or not. And like, it's like, for me, Cam Flush, like, it matters a lot in some situations. Turkey hunting, duck hunting, although you see a lot of duck hunters wearing solids now, too. like we were limited on how much we could take.

I just didn't feel like it was like going to give me that much of an edge to be, to be doing camo. Like I still, I still don't now. Like what gives me an edge is like picking the right place to hide, being in the shadows, not moving. The wind.

The camo, yeah, exactly. Camo doesn't help you smell any better. You know, you just got to be a good hunter. Yep. And,

um, and I'll say you looked extremely broken up. You got to find, harness it's a different color your backpack straps everything like that dry earth color blends in to that tundra real real nice that i was wearing so um yeah i don't i don't feel like i i sort of like like was making it any harder on myself by not wearing camouflage so craig didn't give you a hard time then like some people thought like oh this is going to be a long week you guys uh uh uh not bringing camo No.

Yeah. No, not at all. To each their own. Yeah, totally. Phil, no more questions. Corinne, no more questions? Phil is going to probably watch this episode at lunchtime now, I imagine. Oh, absolutely.

After that little teaser. Thank you guys for listening and watching. Hope you enjoyed it. If you haven't watched, now you know kind of all the ins and outs and the backstory, the behind the story, the behind the scenes a little bit. So you'll have a different experience watching the episode. But I thought it came out good. Yeah, Max and Eli really filmed it well.

They did a good job capturing the landscape. Yeah, it was great. It's amazing. Yeah. And we didn't even talk, just now we didn't even talk about the fishing. Oh. We had some incredible fishing. And I think the fishing was so good that Max and Eli put down their cameras

and did some fishing. And for as many pike as we caught, like we couldn't find a pike that was actually caught on camera. But we had one evening where it glassed out and every little back bay we would go into,

like the first cast, top water, you could see the wakes coming as they crashed the top water whatever you were fishing. It was, it was rad. And like I said in the episode,

when you can't go to a place like that that has world-class fishing. It's like not pressured, not pressured and not do a little bit of fishing. Like you just have to go out there and go, oh wow, this is what unpressured fishing's like. It's almost every single

cast. I'd love to go out there just to fish. Yeah. They're into it too. They do the fly rod thing up there for the pike. Do they now? Mm-hmm. It's fun. Totally. Corinne, anything else I need to plug? That's it. That's it.

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