The Megyn Kelly Show - Alleged Kirk Assassin Charged With Seven Counts, Patel vs. Dems in Combative Hearing: AM Update 9/17

Episode Date: September 17, 2025

Prosecutors formally charge Tyler Robinson with seven counts, including capital aggravated murder, in the political assassination of Charlie Kirk. The elderly man initially arrested at the scene of Kirk's shooting, George Zinn, now faces a child sexual abuse material probe after investigators searched his phone. FBI Director Kash Patel clashes with Senate Democrats in a fiery Judiciary Committee hearing.  Herald Group: Learn more at https://GuardYourCard.comRiverbend Ranch: Visit https://riverbendranch.com/ | Use promo code MEGYN for $20 off your first order.  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. It's Wednesday, September 17th, 2025, and this is your AM update. The defendant is believed to have targeted Charlie Kirk based on Charlie Kirk's political expression. Tyler Robinson formally charged with seven counts, including aggravated murder for the assassination of Charlie Kirk. A disgusting twist, the elderly man arrested in the moment following Charlie's murder. now under investigation for child sex abuse material. You're a disgrace to this institution and an utter coward. You are a political buffoon at best. An FBI director Cash Patel takes on Democrats in a fiery hearing on the Hill.

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in the short meeting, stating his name to presiding district judge, Tony Graff. Could you state your name? Tyler James Robinson. The 22-year-old suspect appearing virtually via video, arms bear wearing what appears to be an anti-suicide smock commonly worn by high-risk inmates. The defendant did not enter a plea, Judge Graff approving a court-appointed lawyer for Robinson, saying Robinson was indigent. Prior to the hearing, Utah County DA, Jeffrey Gray, announcing seven charges against Robinson, one count of aggravated murder for knowingly causing the death of Kirk, under circumstances that created

great risk to others. This is a capital offense, and prosecutors do intend to seek the death penalty. At the time of his death, Charlie was surrounded by about 2,000 onlookers, several staff and security members sitting within feet of him. Count two, felony discharge of a firearm causing serious bodily injury. At this point, D.A. Gray confirming this was a political assassination. The state is further alleging aggravating factors on counts one and two because the defendant is believed to have targeted Charlie Kirk based on Charlie Kirk's political expression and did so knowing that children were present and would witness the homicide. More on Robinson's motivations in just a minute. Counts three and four, obstruction of justice,

secondary felonies. One charge relating to dishing the rifle, another for getting rid of the outfit he allegedly wore during the shooting. Counts five and six, witness tampering. third-degree felonies in reference to a conversation Robinson had with his roommate and romantic partner after the shooting. Count seven, commission of a violent offense in the presence of a child, a Class A misdemeanor, the most serious level misdemeanor offense. D.A. Gray, revealing more information about Robinson's actions in the hours after the shooting prior to turning himself over to police. Robinson's roommate, a transgender male, pretending to be a female, turning over messages to authorities. D.A. Gray yesterday reading a text exchange between Robinson and his roommate,

confirmed by Deputy FBI Director Dan Bongino on the Megan Kelly Show, to be named Lance Twigs. On September 10th, 2025, the roommate received a text message from Robinson, which said, drop what you're doing, look under my keyboard. The roommate looked under the keyboard and found a note that stated, quote, I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I'm going to take it. Police found a photograph of this note. The following text exchange then took place. After reading the note, the roommate responded, what? You're joking, right? Robinson, I am still okay, my love, but am stuck in Orem for a little while longer yet. Shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I got to grab my rifle still.

To be honest, I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age. I am sorry to involve you. Roommate, you weren't the one who did it, right? Robinson, I am, I am, I'm sorry. Twigs asking, why? Robinson replying, quote, I had enough of his hatred.

Some hate can't be negotiated out. The accused going on to say he had been planning the attack for just over a week. Later in the conversation, Robinson details plans to retrieve the rifle, which apparently once belonged to his grandfather and was gifted to Robinson, telling Twigs a patrol car was still parked near the wooded area where the gun was ditched. D.A. Gray reading more of the conversation. Remember how he was engraving bullets? The FN messages are mostly a big meme. If I see Notice Bulge UWU on Fox News, I might have a stroke all right.

I'm going to have to leave it. That really effing sucks. Judging from today, I'd say Grandpa's gun does just fine. Robinson then messaging his roommate about incoming questions from his parents and instructing his roommate to help cover Robinson's tracks. Robinson again, delete this exchange. again Robinson my dad wants photos of the rifle he says grandpa wants to know who has what the feds released a photo of the rifle and it is very unique he's calling me rn not answering Robinson since trump got into office my dad has been pretty diehard maga Robinson i'm going to turn myself in willingly

one of my neighbors here is a deputy for the sheriff again you are all I worry about love. That came from Robinson. Roommate, I'm much more worried about you. Robinson, don't talk to the media, please. Don't take any interviews or make any comments. If any police ask you questions, ask for a lawyer and stay silent. D.A. Gray, elaborating more on the shooter's evolving political views over the last few years. According to his mother, the defendant started leaning more toward the left, telling the DA, he had become more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented. Robinson's family telling authorities he had previously accused Charlie of spreading hate, saying Utah Valley University was a stupid venue for an

event. According to D.A. Gray, Robinson's parents confronting their son about his possible role in the shooting after seeing the photos released by the FBI. His parents reporting to law enforcement that Robinson said he did it because there is too much evil in the world and Charlie Kirk spreads too much hate. Robinson's next hearing, also virtual, set for 10 a.m. local time on September 29th, he will remain in custody without bail. The arrest of the first man taken into custody immediately following Charlie Kirk's assassination taking a disturbing twist, leading to a child's sexual abuse material investigation. That person now identified as 71-year-old George Zinn captured on video just moments after the shooting being placed under arrest by Utah Valley

University Police. According to a Utah County Sheriff's Office press release, shared online by investigative journalist Andy Noe, quote, while people were leaving the scene, Zin was seen yelling that he had shot Charlie Kirk. At the UVU Police Department, Zin refused to speak to investigators. He was then transferred to a local hospital amid an unspecified medical episode. According to police documents obtained by Fox 13, Zin told police that he, quote, wanted to be a martyr for the person who was shot. At the hospital, Zin reportedly admitting to an FBI agent and a Utah State Bureau of Investigation agent, he was not the shooter, but claimed he was in order to allow the actual suspect time to flee. Investigators asked to see his story. Investigators asked to see his

phone, Zinn agreed, telling the agents they might find child sexual abuse images on his phone. Officials then turning the matter over to the Utah County Special Victims Unit. Zin was released from the hospital on Monday, law enforcement then booking him in the Utah County Jail on obstruction charges. That same day, the SVU obtaining a search warrant for Zin's phone, discovering more than 20 images of children ranging from 5 to 12 years old. According to the Sheriff's Department, there were several graphic text messaging threads where Zinn shared the images with others. He remains in the Utah County Jail on felony obstruction charges and four counts of sexual exploitation of a minor. Investigators do not believe Zin coordinated with the shooter.

Zin is well known in the Utah political scene. Local outlet KSL reporting Zin is a regular with law enforcement, arrested and charged many times over 30 years. In 2013, authorities charging Zinn with a felony for making a threat of terrorism, asking Salt Lake City Marathon organizers in an email, quote, I was wondering if you needed anybody to help place bombs near the finish line on Saturday. KSL reporting Zinn later pleaded guilty to a lesser misdemeanor charge. Coming up, Capitol Hill erupts as FBI director Cash Patel goes toe to toe with Democrats in a contentious hearing. I've been talking a lot about River Bend Ranch lately because their stakes are amazing. River Bend Ranch has taken Black Angus beef to a whole new level.

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first order. And let me know what you think. Riverbendranch.com promo code Megan. FBI director Cash Patel appearing before the Senate Judiciary hearing yesterday covering a wide range of issues. Patel taking heat from both sides of the aisle in the aftermath of the Charlie Kirk assassination. In the early evening on September 10th, Patel posting on X that the subject was in custody, then about 90 minutes later posting that that person had been released and the suspect was still on the loose. Yesterday, however, Republican senators rallying a the director while Democrats went on the attack. A sampling of that here from Vermont Senator Peter Welsh

and Illinois Senator Dick Durbin, both Democrats. You made an announcement that the suspect was in custody. We got our man. It turned out that was not true. If we have our man, that would suggest to the public that everybody can rest and relax and not then continue to provide information to local law enforcement and to you.

So that was a mistake. Mr. Patel was so anxious to take credit for finding Mr. Kirk's assassin that he violated one of the basics of effective law enforcement. At critical stages of an investigation, shut up and let the professionals do their job. Patel acknowledging his wording at the time could have been more precise, however stating he does not believe updating the public in real time was a mistake. California Democratic Senator Adam Schiff questioning the director about Epstein associate Galane Maxwell's transfer to a minimum security prison following her interview with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche. Senator Schiff asking Director Patel who was in charge of that decision. Mr. Patel, responding it came from the Bureau of Prisons, setting off this exchange.

You want the American people to believe that? Do you think they're stupid? No, I think the American people believe the truth, that I'm not in the weeds on the everyday movements of inmates. What I am doing is protecting this country, providing his story, providing historical. reform and combating the weaponization of intelligence by the likes of you, and we have countless proven you to be a liar in Russiagate in January 6th, you are the biggest fraud to ever sit in the United States Senate, your disgrace to this institution, and an utter coward.

I'm not surprised that you continue to lie from your perch and put on a show so you can go raise money for your charade. You are a political buffoon at best. In 2023, then Congressman Schiff was removed from the Intelligence Committee and formerly censured by the House for misleading the public repeatedly by promoting now totally debunked claims that President Trump colluded with Russia to win the 2016 presidential election. Schiff at the time said he would wear that censure as a badge of honor. Elsewhere in the hearing, Director Patel questioned about changes to the physical fitness exam, all new FBI recruits are required to pass. Beginning in November 2025, pull-ups will be a mandatory part of the evaluation for all FBI candidates.

Females will be required to complete at least one single pull-up. At a minimum, male candidates must complete two to three. Democrat from Hawaii, Senator Maisie Hirono, questioning the fairness of this new standard. You are now requiring applicants to be able to do a certain kind of pull-ups, which a lot of women cannot because of physiological differences. Are you requiring these kinds of pull-ups? We are requiring a physical program at BFTC at Quantico because FBI agents carrying guns in the field have to chase down bad guys and do really hard work. The reason I ask is that there are concerns about whether or not being able to do these kinds of harsh pull-ups is really required of FBI agents.

Doing one pull-up is not harsh. Director Patel then noting certain medical exemptions exist for qualifying candidates. Later, Republican Senator from Alabama, Katie Britt, highlighting the irony in her Democrat colleague's line of questioning. Before I begin, I want to thank Senator Heralno for what she said, acknowledging that there are physical differences between men and women. talking about that women wouldn't be able to do as many pull-ups, and I think that she was making a case here that there should be different standards.

There's a thing called Title IX, and this is why we continue to say we should have biological men and men's sports and biological women and women's sports. And so I look forward to utilizing that, to talk to all of my colleagues on the other side of the aisle. Maybe they will stand with us in helping us protect women's sports. I think she made a great argument there for it. And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megan Kelly. Join me back here for the Megan Kelly show, live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 11 at noon east, on YouTube.com slash Megan Kelly, and on all podcast platforms.