The Megyn Kelly Show - Alleged Kirk Assassin's Ideology and Connections, Erika Continuing Charlie's Mission: AM Update 9/15

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

Utah Governor Spencer Cox confirms Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin was steeped in leftist ideology as investigators uncover new details about his personal life. Erika Kirk vows her husband’s missi...on will live on, declaring his assassination only strengthens the movement he built. The accused killer of Iryna Zarutska is sent for a psychiatric evaluation in North Carolina that could determine whether he ever stands trial. Riverbend Ranch: Visit https://riverbendranch.com/ | Use promo code MEGYN for $20 off your first order.Lean: Visit https://TakeLean.com & use code MK for 20% off Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. It's Monday, September 15th, 2025, and this is your AM update. If this was MAGA and a radicalized MAGA person, I would be saying that as well. If the friends were saying that, I would be sharing that as well. That's not what they're sharing. Utah Governor Cox confirms that Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin was, quote, deeply indoctrinated in leftist ideology as new, dark details of the suspect's personal. personal life come to light. The evildoers, responsible for my husband's assassination, have no idea what they have done. Charlie's widow Erica says her husband's mission will not end with his death. And the suspect accused of murdering Irina Zarutka is out of jail and undergoing a court-ordered mental competency exam, what that could mean for justice.
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Starting point is 00:02:36 and one, the casing to the round that killed Charlie that read, quote, notices bulges, and quote, a reference to furry culture. That's a subculture in which people claim to identify as animals with many overlapping ties to the trans community. Some on the left and in the media attempting to obfuscate Robinson's political beliefs. He was registered unaffiliated because his parents are registered Republicans who like guns, claiming instead the furry reference is simply a meme within the gaming community. Imagine their surprise when the Daily Mail broke the news that Robinson is in fact linked to the so-called furry lifestyle with an account on a website where people in animal costumes pose sexually. Robinson's trans male to female boyfriend is also
Starting point is 00:03:27 pictured elsewhere on the web in multiple different animal costumes. While Robinson is not cooperating with authorities, Governor Cox on CNN, confirming interviews with those who know him say he is a leftist. You told the Wall Street Journal that it is, quote, very clear to us and to the investigators that this was a person who was deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology. Can you elaborate on that and be more specific? Well, sure. So that information comes from the people around him, from his family members and friends. That's how we got that information.
Starting point is 00:04:03 I mean, there are conversations that were discussed, specifically about Charlie Kirk, other conversations about the direction that this was going. And look, my job is just to tell people, I really don't have a dog in this fight. If this was MAGA and a radicalized MAGA person, I would be saying that as well. If the friends were saying that, I would be sharing that as well.
Starting point is 00:04:24 That's not what they're sharing. Cox's going on to say a note written by Robinson was recovered by authorities, the details of which are set to be released Tuesday in the charging documents. Independent journalist Andy Noe uncovering the social media accounts, he says, belonged to Robinson's partner, confirming his transgender identity. One of Robinson's neighbors telling the son, Robinson and his trans roommate were in a romantic relationship. But those have never seen the roommate describe that person for us. He, so he did have freckles on his face. Um, for the haircut, he did have, it was a weird hair cut, I can't quite. It was kind of a mushroom shaped one.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Um, yeah, he was, I would say, he didn't come out much. There's some published reports out there that this individual, the roommate, may have been transitioned in. Did that correlate with what you saw? Um, yeah, definitely. If you were sure that they were a couple, but you have only seen them together once? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:24 I mean, the way, I mean, random guys don't hold hands and definitely don't kiss. According to Axios, Robinson's boyfriend was, quote, aghast at the murder and turned over Tyler's text messages, some of which, authorities say, referenced the murder weapon and rounds and casings with messages on them, all of which law enforcement found in the woods nearby the shooting. It appears the boyfriend Twigs did not contact authorities upon receipt of these messages, but turned them over only when cops found twigs. At the same time, the New York Times obtaining screenshots of a group chat on Discord, a messaging platform popular in the gaming community,
Starting point is 00:06:05 including Robinson as well as approximately 20 others, where Robinson jokes about the assassination after it occurred. Shortly after the FBI released photos of Robinson, someone tagged him messaging WIA or Where You At with a skull emoji. Robinson, replying his doppelganger, was trying to, quote, get me in trouble. Another user chiming in, quote, Tyler killed Charlie. One user joking about turning Robinson in to collect the $100,000 reward offered by the FBI. Robinson replying, quote, only if I get a cut.
Starting point is 00:06:40 One user writing, quote, whatever you do, don't go to a McDonald's, referencing Luigi Mangione, who is accused of assassinating the United Healthcare CEO and was arrested at one of the fast food joints. Robinson then replying, quote, better also get rid of this manifesto and exact copy rifle I have lying around. Following Robinson's arrest, some in the group chat appearing to be in disbelief. One user writing, quote, I truly cannot distinguish if this is for real. Axios reporting federal and state investigators are examining leftist groups in Utah and online, determining whether anyone else knew of Robinson's plans ahead of time or helped him after the shooting. The New York Post reporting the probe also includes a pro-trans organization called Armed Queers SLC.
Starting point is 00:07:29 The group took down their Instagram after the shooting, the post reports. The group's logo includes two rifle rounds similar to the one that killed Charlie, with the words armed queers on one and Salt Lake City on the other. A resurfaced flyer for the event obtained by Young America's Foundation shows hammer and sickle, rainbow flag and a woman armed with an AK-47 and two ammo belts. Some social media users surfacing posts from anonymous trans-supporting accounts appearing to predict something ominous ahead of Charlie's appearance at Utah Valley. A neighbor telling the New York Post two weeks ago, several people driving cars with out-of-state license plates were seen going in and out of Robinson's apartment.
Starting point is 00:08:13 That neighbor telling the post, quote, they did not give off a good vibe. CNN spoke with man who recently worked with Robinson, describing him as, quote, a little abnormal, didn't talk to anyone, he was a quiet dude, and he didn't like talking unless spoken to. He stays in the back, and I knew from word of mouth, from coworkers, that he was not fond of Trump or Charlie Kirk, obviously, affect his own family, verified to authorities. Robinson is being held on suspicion of aggravated murder, felony discharge of a firearm causing serious bodily harm and obstruction of justice. is expected to be formally charged on Tuesday. Governor Cox, previously indicating the state does intend to seek the death penalty.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Erica Kirk, Charlie's widow, speaking out publicly Friday night, her first remarks since her husband's murder. Erica opening her remarks, thanking law enforcement, the first responders who attempted to save Charlie's life, as well as those who worked with Charlie and offered their prayers and support since his murder. Reflecting on his commitment to his faith and love for his work. Erica delivered this solemn vow. The evildoers responsible for my husband's assassination have no idea what they have done.
Starting point is 00:09:29 They killed Charlie because he preached a message of patriotism, faith, and of God's merciful love. They should all know this. If you thought that my husband's mission was powerful before, you have no idea. You have no idea what you just have unleashed across this entire country. In this world, you have no idea. You have no idea the fire that you have ignited within this wife. The cries of this widow will echo around the world like a battle cry.
Starting point is 00:10:07 To everyone listening tonight across America, the movement my husband built will not die. It won't. I refuse to let that happen. It will not die. All of us will refuse to let that happen. No one will ever forget my husband's name, and I will make sure of it. Charlie was assassinated at the first stop of his fall series, The American Comeback Tour. On previous tours, he went from campus to campus, urging college students to debate every hot-button issue under the sun, especially those who disagreed with him.
Starting point is 00:10:42 In the days since his death, the question hanging in the air, what comes next? Erica declaring Charlie's life's work will carry on. Our campus tour this fall will continue. There will be even more tours in the years to come. America Fest here in Phoenix, this December will go on. It will be greater than ever. The radio and podcast show that he was so proud of will go on. And in a world filled with chaos, doubt, and uncertainty, my husband's voice will remain.
Starting point is 00:11:14 and it will ring out louder and more clearly than ever, and his wisdom will endure. On Sunday, CNN's chief data analyst, Harry Enten, examining Charlie's influence on the 2024 election and his role in delivering the youth vote for President Trump. Well, let's take a look at 18 to 24-year-olds who voted for Donald Trump. In 2016, it was just 34%.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Jump ahead to 2020, it was just 31%. But look in this past presidential election in 2024. Donald Trump's percentage of voters under the age of 25 jumped all the way up to 43% of the vote. We can say that Trump had the best performance for any Republican nominee for president this entire century among voters under the age of 25. 86% of Generation Z prefers to get its news through digital media. So that advice that Charlie Kirk gave to Donald Trump to bypass through traditional media to reach out to younger voters, It was a really smart piece of advice. Of course, it wasn't Kirk merely advising Donald Trump to bypass the traditional media to reach out to younger voters.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Charlie Kirk did it himself. The Charlie Kirk Show podcast ranking, well, this past quarter, it ranked in the top 10 in news, ranked in the top 10. So it wasn't just that Charlie Kirk was advising Donald Trump. It was, of course, that Charlie Kirk was meeting the younger voters where they were and trying to persuade them to his side of the aisle. and based upon the 2024 election results, I think we could say that Charlie Kirk was quite successful. Late Saturday night, executive producer of the Charlie Kirk show, Andrew Colvitt, posting on X, quote,
Starting point is 00:12:50 TPUSA has received over 32,000 inquiries in the last 48 hours to start new campus chapters. To put that in perspective, TPUSA currently has 900 official college chapters and around 1,200 high school chapters, with a presence on 3,500 total. Charlie's vision to have a Club America chapter, our high school brand, in every high school in America, around 23,000, will come true much faster than he could ever possibly have imagined. Colvert following up on that post with, quote,
Starting point is 00:13:25 This is the Turning Point. Turning Point USA will hold a public memorial service for Charlie this coming Sunday, September 21st, at State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona. That's a football stadium. with the capacity of more than 60,000. President Trump over the weekend telling members at his Bedminster, New Jersey club that he has plans to honor Charlie at the memorial.
Starting point is 00:13:47 He was a really special guy, so I'm going to be going to Charlie's, I guess you'd go out a funeral, there's a small one. I said, can we do the big one because we're going to give him the Presidential Medal of Freedom, which is a big deal. It's the civil version. It's the highest you can get. It's the equivalent of the Congressional Medal of Honor. Vice President J.D. Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio also reportedly planning to attend.
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Starting point is 00:15:28 consider adding lean to your diet and exercise lifestyle. Get 20% off when you enter MK at take lean.com. That's code mk at take lean.com. The man accused of murdering 23-year-old Irina Zarutka on a Charlotte, North Carolina light rail train, is out of jail and in a psych hospital, undergoing a court-ordered mental competency evaluation, the results of which could affect whether he ultimately goes to trial for his actions. On August 22nd, surveillance footage showing Zerutska taking a seat on the train, one row ahead of DeCarlos Brown Jr. The assailant takes out a knife from his pocket,
Starting point is 00:16:09 then out of nowhere stabs the victim quickly and repeatedly multiple times, including in her neck. Zerutska dying from the injuries just moments later. On August 29th, one week after the unprovoked slaying, Judge Roy Wiggins signing an order committing DeC Carlos Brown Jr. to a psychiatric hospital to determine his mental fitness to stay on trial. If he's not mentally fit, he could be involuntarily committed to a state psychiatric facility indefinitely.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Court documents show the evaluation cannot exceed 60 days. WBTV in Charlotte interviewing the statewide director of forensic services, Dr. Robert Cochran, who oversees all court-ordered evaluations in North Carolina on how the process works. They're often quite extensive assessments of the individual before the evaluator determines whether the person, one, suffers from a mental illness or defect, and, Secondly, then, if so, if they're capable to proceed in their trial or not. The system is built around, you know, having hearings, making determination, cross-examining witnesses, having an individual evaluated by, you know, another professional or even a third professional to get other opinions
Starting point is 00:17:18 so that the right decision, the right call is made at the end of the day. Brown broke the law many times before this one, including a 2013 conviction for larceny and breaking and entering, and a 2015 conviction for robbery with a dangerous. weapon. He was well known by law enforcement and known to have schizophrenia before Irina's killing. At the time of the attack, Brown still faced charges from a January arrest. Officials charging him then with misusing 911 after he repeatedly called to report he had been implanted with, quote, man-made material controlling how he walked, talked, and ate. In July, Judge Wiggins, ordering a mental evaluation at the request of a public defender, but he notably did not detain
Starting point is 00:18:01 Brown pending the evaluation despite obvious signs of severe mental illness. That was seven months after Brown's initial arrest for the crime and the decision by magistrate judge Teresa Stokes, whom Judge Wiggins oversees not to detain Brown nor to order a psych evaluation then. Brown's mother telling local outlet WSOC she believes the system failed her son and that he never should have been released after his January arrest. Online court records indicate the next hearing is set for September 19th, though it remains unclear whether that date will stand. De Carlos Brown Jr. is charged with first-degree murder in state court and one federal count of committing an act causing death on a mass transportation system. He faces a maximum of life without parole or the death penalty.
Starting point is 00:18:49 That's two innocent victims whose murder by catastrophic neck injury was international news last week. The video of each seen millions of times, especially Charlie's gunshot wound. Representative Anna Paulina Luna of Florida, a Republican, is pushing social media companies to take down the video of Charlie's murder. TikTok has agreed. Others online, including yours truly, have advocated that the video not be censored because it reveals the depths of the leftist insanity here, about which too many have been in denial. Mike Benz, whose group Foundation for Freedom Online, backs a free and open internet wrote, quote, honestly, it was very important for me to see the video, which did something in me that cannot be expressed by a simple write-up in the New York Times, which is the history
Starting point is 00:19:38 the world will be left with without the video. Although some sick people are celebrating the video, many of us have the mindset of Jackie Kennedy, after her husband JFK was assassinated, and they urged her to change out of her bloodied pink Chanel suit before this wearing in ceremony for Lyndon B. Johnson. She refused, saying to those around her, let them see what they've done. And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megan Kelly. Join me back here for the Megan Kelly show, where we will have Dan Bongino, the deputy director of the FBI, on the latest in the Charlie Kirk investigation. Live on SiriusXM Triumph Channel 11 at New Neune East, on YouTube.com slash Megan Kelly and on all podcast platforms.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Thank you.

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