The Megyn Kelly Show - Andrew Schulz on Trump and Biden, the State of Comedy, and Feminism | Summer Re-Release
Episode Date: June 23, 2022Today we're re-releasing a favorite episode from March 2021, with comedian Andrew Schulz. He and Megyn Kelly talked about Meghan and Harry vs. the royal family, the state of comedy, Jimmy Kimmel and ...Jimmy Fallon, Sacha Baron Cohen, Biden's mental fitness, Trump's personality, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, The Kardashians, the value of dancing, Starbucks coffee, dating and marriage, Mormons, breastfeeding, porn, the movie "Swingers," feminism, and more.Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at: https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow
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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.
Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Hope you're enjoying this first
week of summer. This is it, officially. While I am away this week with my family,
I didn't want to leave you hanging. Wanted to bring you a couple of episodes from our archives
that we think will make you laugh and make you think. You might've missed
this one because it's from early in our stint as a podcast. Today, we bring you my conversation with
Andrew Schultz from March of 2021. Andrew was so funny. I couldn't stop thinking about this
interview and I played it. I did something I rarely do because I experience it live. So I
don't really need to listen to it back, but I played it from beginning to end on a super long walk with my dogs.
And I recommend you do the same.
He was hilarious.
And we covered a ton of ground during this lengthy episode on the state of comedy, feminism,
Trump, Biden, the Kardashians, Meghan and Harry, and much, much more.
Take a listen.
Maggie Kelly, how are you?
I'm good. All right, let me start with this. Is it true that you're the cousin of Bill
Schultz, formerly of Red Eye?
Second cousins.
You know, I heard it and I looked at you and I was like,
I could kind of see a little family resemblance there. What do you think?
We got strong family features on the Schultz side.
Fortunate for the men, unfortunate for the women.
But yeah, there's some similarity going on over there.
We actually didn't know each other until we were in entertainment.
No way.
What?
Yeah, I met him once at the cellar and I was like, dude, I think we're related.
I'm not exactly sure.
And he's like, we might know, you know, we might have
some family. So yeah, it's a second cousin situation, but I love Bill. So as celebrities
in your family go, like, are you happy with where you landed? Yeah. A hundred percent. As long as
I'm better than Bill, everything's fine. Can I tell you, I have a celebrity in my family.
Um, I found this out when I was a kid i am related to loretta swit
from mash ah isn't there a schultz in mash or something like that hot lips hoolahan um she i
don't know she's like my sixth cousin i it's like very distant but it's legit and i once saw her on
the upper west side in the pottery barn signing copies of her new book and greeted her like a long lost relative.
And she was off, but it was awkward.
Reception.
Oh, you promised to be good friends.
But I thought, you know, I like mine.
I like my celebrity relation like hot lips.
Cool.
Hot lips is pretty good.
Hot lips is pretty good.
You could do worse anyway.
So I thought about you this week.
I was excited you were coming on because I know you've done some bits about whether our current president is all there.
Like how confident should we be that he's got all of his faculties?
And this clip made the rounds about him.
Just to set it up for the audience, he appears to forget not only the word Pentagon, right?
He's referring to this facility by the Pentagon, but he can't get the word.
But he forgot the name of our Secretary of Defense.
Listen to the clip.
I just want to thank you both.
And I want to thank the former general.
I keep calling him general, but the guy who runs that outfit over there.
I want to make sure we thank the secretary for all he's done to try to implement what we just
talked about and for recommending these two women for promotion. The guy who runs that outfit over
there. Yeah, that's tough, man.
You know what sucks is that we all forget words.
I forget words every single day.
But once it's become ingrained in your identity,
every single time it happens, people are like,
oh yeah, he's got Alzheimer's.
It's over for him.
It's a wrap.
How is he running the country?
So he's not allowed to have a single slip up.
Yeah, that's tricky.
What do you think?
You think he's gone?
I think they shouldn't let him do live events.
I think everything should be pre-taped with a prompter.
There should be no ad living.
He can't handle it.
We've seen that time and time again.
And now it's starting to make me feel like, you know, when your grandpa can't get the
words out and you're like, oh, come on, Pop Pop, you can do it.
Like, that's sort of how I'm feeling.
Except Pop Pop was never leader of the free world.
So there's an additional layer of concern. But doesn't it prove that anybody can
be president? Like, didn't Trump prove that? Yeah, but like, I yeah, Trump proved but there are other
guys that proved it before. It's not a real job. You don't have to be good at anything to be
president. Like what is the skill of president outside of just being likable,
which we all know the douchiest people are the most likable usually. Right. So like if I like somebody immediately upon meeting them, I'm usually thinking, Oh, I'm going to hate you
within a week. If you're like a little weird, when I first meet you, you're a little bit like
maybe socially awkward. I'm like, Oh, this guy's going to be like one of my best friends. And he's
probably going to take a bullet for me. He would take a bullet for me. Right. So
it's like you have this ability to be likable off the bat and that's your only qualification.
It's not like they're lawyers. It's not like they're doctors. They literally are an HR director
and they just got to hire smart people to do the things that they don't know how to do because they
have no real skills. So of course, anybody can be president. It's a likability contest.
I mean, in Joe Biden's case, it was truly just a contest of who could stay in the basement the
longest. How long can you stay down there? And how long can Trump not say something that's going to
screw things up for him? Like, you be quiet and you be totally out of sight and don't go anywhere.
I also think, and like, I don't think people are given, I guess, Trump enough criticism for this,
is that he didn't know how to be, this is actually weird, he didn't know how to be a winner. He knew how to be'm not a politician. And that's how much- Crooked Hillary. Exactly, right? It's like, I'm not those people. And it just so happens that those people are so
crooked that you can run an entire campaign on I'm not them. And then people are like, all right,
fine, we'll take not them, right? Which is more of an indictment on our politicians. But
once he became them, you have to change your strategy. Like it's easier to come to power than it is to lead.
Leading is tough.
How many people have successfully led?
It's true.
Because you can't say what you're not, you know?
Well, that's why I feel like what happened to our old tradition of putting like Eisenhower
in there?
Pick a military leader, somebody who actually knows how to lead people
through times of crises. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I guess. I don't know. It's tricky though. Also,
because like you need to be diplomatic, right? Like the thing about the military is if, yeah,
I think, I mean, that's something like democracy. Um, no, I don't think he was very diplomatic,
you know, I guess. Yeah, maybe he wasn't that
diplomatic. I don't know. I mean, like, was he less diplomatic than most? What does anybody get?
I think you could make these people do. What do these people do? I have no clue what they do.
I don't know. But I don't think you're supposed to. You're not supposed to refer to the countries
as shithole countries. I don't think that people would chalk that up to diplomacy.
Some countries are shitholes. You've traveled.
I've traveled.
I'm not denying it.
I'm just saying you're not supposed to say it as president.
Maybe you're not supposed to say it as president, but it is kind of refreshing to be like,
okay, yeah, that place stinks.
You know, like there are places that stink and there are places in the first world that
stink too, by the way.
There are a lot of countries that think they got their shit together and you go there like,
man, this place stinks. Well, listen, there are places in our own country
that you could describe that way. It's just Trump was the only, he was the first president to
actually start doing it. Yeah, I guess. I don't know. Like what is worse? What is worse? Like
saying a country's a shithole or bombing it into being a shithole? Like we got our priorities
totally messed up, don't we? Like that president said bad words.
Meanwhile, this other president that we think is a hero is just bombing places into dust.
So I don't know.
It's just weird to me.
At least maybe I'm more of like an actions guy.
I like, you know, to see exactly what your actions are.
I'm not really defending him because he just wasn't good enough to like get the job done, you know?
And like I think people took him way too seriously.
Like I always said, like if Trump was in my friend group,
I'd poke him in the belly and fuck up his hair.
You know, like this is, he's like a buffoon, but he's a fun buffoon.
You know, like you'd have him in the group, but you tease him all the time.
I am someone who has actually run her fingers through Trump's hair.
I did it on camera.
It happened.
And I'm here to tell you, by the way, it's 100 percent real. It's all his. I don't I mean, I've read the story,
same as everybody that, you know, there may have been some plugs or whatever. I don't know. All I
can tell you is that it's nice hair and it's legit. I what's so funny to me is like all these women
that make fun of Trump's fake hair. It's like, ladies, let's, let's take a break with making fun of fake things. Okay. Do we really need to get into the eyelashes and the cheekbones
and the nose and the lips and the hair, the extension, like let's, let's, let's a little bit
right. And the boobs, the butts. I mean, I'm in Miami right now. I haven't seen a real girl in a
month. Oh my God. I don't understand Miami. I've only been there a couple of times. And does anybody work there or just work out, work out eight hours a day?
Listen, Miami is Latin America's idea of what America is. made. They just got it made. They figured it out. They're like, we should be super free and we should do whatever we want.
And you can enjoy yourself.
And all the women are beautiful and cocaine.
And that's pretty much it.
That's Miami.
How are they?
What is the industry down there?
Like, how are they keeping the ship afloat?
There's no industry.
It is nothing.
I don't know.
I don't know what's going on.
Maybe it's Bitcoin.
I think everything runs on Bitcoin.
I'm honestly not sure. But there's these hot places where nobody gets anything done
and everybody's still rich and it makes no sense. I have to say it confuses me and I never feel so
obese is when I go down to Miami because it's just like there's no there's it's like it's as
if there's no body fat allowed at the city border. Yeah, the pressure is it's heavy for girls.
That pressure is heavy. In New York, you just throw on that hoodie for the winter and nobody notices. Start getting in shape around April.
That's right. That's right. I love sinking into my winter body. Down there, there's no winter bum.
It is true. It is true. It's a different pressure, Megan. It's a different pressure.
Well, plus, I have to tell you, I grew up the first 10 years in Syracuse and the rest in albany and you know upstate new york the tundra and there you know you could be in your winter body 10 out
of 12 months it was great yeah yeah yeah yeah you got some burly ladies up there and fellas
uh new york grew up in manhattan oh really new york city Proper Manhattan. Like, where'd you go to school? I went to PS6 for elementary school.
That's the one everybody wants to get into.
Me, Lenny Kravitz, you know what it is. Who else went there? I don't know, some other people.
And then I went to Wagner Middle School, which is kind of like just this big,
I don't know, middle schools in New York are kind of weird. They're just like holding cells to divide up the kids before they go to high school. And then I
went to a Baruch college campus high school, which is a small public school that was kind of
associated with the college. And, uh, and then I went out to, um, uh, get, uh, my, uh, college degree
in the university of Santa Barbara. So nice fun party school.
Nice. What like, that's what I wish I had done. I went, so I went back to Syracuse for college because I just couldn't get enough of the, you know, sub zero temperatures and four feet of snow
every, every December through may. Um, you wanted that journalism degree. That's, that's the only
way to get into journalism. If you go to Syracuse, right? Andrew, they didn't let me in. I didn't get into Newhouse at Syracuse. People just assume that I
went there. I couldn't get in. I went to Syracuse because I had a soft spot in my heart for Syracuse,
having lived there for 10 years. And my dad had been a professor there and my dad had died when
I was in high school. So even more of a soft spot. And they let me in. My GPA was not so great. My SATs were not so great. So they let me in. But had I been smart, I would have started thinking about a place like Santa Barbara or when I went to law school instead of Albany, Pepperdine. Right? Like, how did you get that brilliant idea? I grew up surfing randomly. I know it
doesn't make any sense, but I grew up surfing and my folks had like a beach house on this gay
island called a fire island. You ever go to far out? Yes. My friends go there all the time.
Oh yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, it's a, it's great. So I grew up, my summers were on a gay island
and I would go surfing there.
Now, Fire Island actually has a bunch of communities that are not strictly gay.
It only has two communities that are gay.
But, you know, like most things, like if it's a little gay, the reputation is it's all gay, you know?
So, by the way, the nicest communities on Fire Island are the nice ones.
Oh, yeah.
Claim it.
Right?
Like, how did it happen that it became a gay community and it's called Fire Island?
Well, it's probably Fire Island first.
And the gays were like, that sounds right.
I mean, that's where we should be.
And they have by far the nicest homes.
Like, it's the rich gays that go.
That's their Hamptons.
Right?
Yes, that's true.
And then the rest of us have, like, you know, just kind of regular places.
So there are these other communities.
But whenever I tell people that I used to spend my summers in Fire Island, I have to
say like, my straight parents had a house in Fire Island because Sex and the City turned
it, the whole thing, into like an orgy.
So...
No, it's like you go there, you take the ferry, and then it's like this community where...
You take the what?
You can...
You take the what?
The ferry.
The ferry? Like, how many puns are we gonna put just nosing around it i didn't want to go there directly
anyway so you can run around like you didn't want to go there directly.
Anyway, so you can run around.
You don't have to wear your shoes.
They've got all these little pathways.
You can ride your bike everywhere.
It's a delightful community.
Okay, so your parents, they were straight.
And what did they do for a living?
They owned a ballroom dance school.
They would teach partner dancing.
Come on.
Yeah, 100%. My mom was a three-time U.S us ballroom dance champion. That's great. All right. Megan, that is also gay.
Very gay.
So are you amazing at ballroom dancing? No, no. I mean, I got, I got a couple of moves. I could
cut the rug a little bit if need be.
You know, but-
Wait a minute.
But my mom and dad-
I don't understand that.
Like Patrick Swayze, the way he became such an amazing dancer was his mom owned a dance
studio that taught dancing like that.
So what happened?
I can bust it down a little bit.
I would not be surprised if you had heard maybe of the-
You lived in New York?
Did you ever live in New York? Okay. Yeah, I live in New the soup. You lived in New York. Did you ever live in New York?
Okay.
Yeah.
I live in New York now.
You live in New York now.
Okay.
So it was called the Sandra Cameron Dance Center.
Right.
And I don't know.
It was down like at one point in the East Village and then it moved down to like a Nolita
area.
Did you ever take lessons there?
I did not.
But I did take lessons out in Chicago at uh the old i think it was when you were
young miller no it was before my first marriage uh before my first marriage before there was doug
there was dan and we took lessons before our wedding to like learn a little routine and and
we were pretty good and i've of course forgotten all those moves and by the way you can't do them
with it with a second husband because he wasn't there for the lessons. But you can take more lessons, Megan. You can, you can, you can
learn a new dance. Yeah. I'll work on that. I'll work on that. So now, so you didn't put that much
time into it. You were focused on other things apparently. Yeah. My mom didn't want to be like a
stage mom because her mom was kind of a stage mom. And, uh, so she like, didn't try to be like a stage mom because her mom was kind of a stage mom. And so she like,
didn't try to pressure me into learning dance, but I think I got some of it down by osmosis,
but yeah, dance is the best. Like dance could cure all this stuff. You know, when you were younger,
I think this, this happened. I mean, I don't think you're old enough to be younger and it was part of
your, you know, regular, I don't know, cultural weekend activities.
But my dad said that kids just learned how to dance.
That was just what you did.
You learned how to maybe play basketball, but dance lessons were just part of the norm.
And I think it would really help out all these nerds that have never spoken to a girl.
And then they're just on the internet angry all the time.
What if you were just having dance lessons and then you had to actually hold a
female human being and talk to them and like be comfortable around them and learn that it's not
so terrifying and then you know you don't develop these like little incel communities like we got
to get back to dance there's no incels in the dominican republic right there's no incels in
puerto rico there's no incels anywhere where there's dance in the culture.
Incels only exist without dance.
Any partner dancing, there is no terrorism.
Think about this.
If there's any partner dancing in the culture,
terrorism doesn't exist.
That's fascinating.
Maybe I've been too hard on my producer, Debbie Murphy,
with her little tap dance lessons.
I mocked her up in Canada, but I actually do think it was important to her well-being and it was a stress reliever. And rather than mock, I should have just partaken. But tap dance is almost like, you know, walking down the street with the boombox on your shoulder of dance.
You know what I mean?
Like, you could do all that tapping without the metal on the shoes, but you're like, I want everybody to hear what I learned today.
It's just too much, right?
Like, it doesn't have to be that loud.
Like, if anything, put felt or something on the bottom of the shoe, and then just you do it for you.
But now we all got to hear you tapping away. It's like, turn boombox off when you're walking down the street and then turn off the tap
tissues. It's so true. Oh, my God. The boombox is so annoying, isn't it? Like you'll be sitting
in your doctor's office, whatever. Somebody go by the boot with the boombox. It's like,
why did we all have to enjoy your music or even the people who like turn their car radio up so
loud? It's like, really? Why? Like, I like my music, too, but I don't the need to force it on you. I, nothing has been more annoying, like growing up where you're on the
subway and some guy comes in the subway with his phone playing music. Right. And he's just playing
music off of his phone for the entire subway to like indulge in. And I used to think this was the
most annoying fucking thing in the world. And then, um, one day a guy was playing my podcast
out loud on the subway. And I was like, sometimes this works. And sometimes,
sometimes this can be entertaining for everybody. So, uh, I'm a complete hypocrite is the point of
that story. Okay. So can I tell you something? I had, I had a, this is a side story, but I was walking down the street the other day.
I was going to see my therapist, which is critical, especially here in New York.
And I was listening to Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who launched her own podcast.
And she was interviewing a guy who I would like to speak to, by the way, his name is Vivek Ramaswamy.
He's amazing. Anyway, so I'm listening
to Ayan and I passed this cop, this young cop, probably 30. And he is listening to Ayan on my
show. So I'm listening to her do her show. He's listening to her on my show. I was like, oh my
God, like the universe is trying to tell me something, which is like, Ayan's amazing, apparently. But on the subject of listening to people like do their business out loud,
all over New York now, you see people sitting and they no longer sit with books. They sit with
somebody on fucking FaceTime, excuse me, but it's like, I don't need to hear the other half of the
conversation in this way. It's so annoying. Yeah, that's crazy.
You were overhearing it?
Yes.
Oh my God, they do it.
I won't name the restaurant,
but there's this particular restaurant where you go.
It's not like a Starbucks.
I hate Starbucks.
But it's like a cute little cafe. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Why do you hate Starbucks?
Because it tastes terrible.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Stop it.
Stop it.
It's too bitter.
No, no, no, no, no, no. Stop it. Stop it. It's too bitter. No, no, no, no. It tastes terrible
compared to blue bottle. It tastes terrible compared to Glock Cologne. It tastes terrible
compared to like these other absolutely incredible coffee options that we have in New York, right?
No, it tastes terrible compared to New York city deli coffee.
I was about to say diner
coffee, but you went deli. That's fine. You think Starbucks tastes worse than diner coffee in New
York? I don't think there's any competition. You're out of your mind. You're out of your mind.
I can't stand Starbucks coffee. And I'm not particularly into Starbucks's whole vibe.
I don't know. Why don't
you just call it a small, a medium and a large? Like, why do I have to use a foreign language
to say what I want? And everything in there is unhealthy. Everything. Yes. It's unhealthy.
Coffee is actually no coffee is probably pretty good for you. It's like the only drug where even
doctors, Oh yeah. The food, but the fact that they even have food, the fact that you can go to the
airport and then you can get something at Starbucks and you're like, all right, this isn't horrendous.
I get my little Feta, whatever, Feta wrap or whatever, and I don't feel too bad about
myself while I'm on this flight.
I'm just saying, I can't believe you don't like Starbucks.
No, I don't.
You walk in, it's kind of comfortable.
Listen, I'm a comedian.
My job is to make fun of institutions.
That's literally all we do.
I like Starbucks. I like Starbucks.
I like it. It's comfortable. They get the job done. I also like they their politics are annoying.
They kind of went woke. And remember when they were inviting all the homeless people into the
Starbucks and it was like, oh, it's the right thing to do. It's like, OK, so that's never
going to last because paying customers are not going to want to.
I mean, let's be real. Like bringing homeless people in can usually involve bringing somebody who may have a criminal record in who may be a pedophile.
And we just dealt with this here in New York. I know it sounds all laudable, like in theory, but as a practical matter, it was never going to work.
And sure enough, they reversed the policy. Yeah, but that's because the guy wants to be president.
And I think what happens is like and also no relation to him whatsoever even though we both have the same last name
um yeah i think he wanted to be president he was like trying to do his best and it's just like
i think eventually you have that much success you make that many right decisions that you start kind
of believing your own hype and i and i get that completely imagine you made that many correct
decisions like that guy doesn't have to make too many decisions a year, but he's paid an enormous amount of money for every decision he makes. Right. Because the ones that he is bigger on the whole planet. You probably go, I could be president. I get where your line of thinking goes. I don't understand why you would want to be
president. What a useless job that is. Like you can do so much more by being not president.
What do you make of people like, you're right. I never thought about it that way. I mean,
I'm sure. What do they change, Megan? Tell me what they change. Can anybody explain
one thing that they do?
I do not know. What is the last president to do anything was Abraham Lincoln.
Ever since Abraham Lincoln, I don't know a single president that did a single thing.
Can you name a single thing that any president did since Abraham Lincoln?
Well, I mean, LBJ signed some important laws into effect, the civil rights law, the voting rights law. But he didn't create the law. He just signed the paper because the pressure,
the outside pressure for him to do it was so strong that he had to. It's not like LBJ had the greatest track record for diversity, right? No, correct.
He's not exactly a social justice hero. He just got so much pressure from the people.
Well, who cares about that? Trump signed in the the anti-sex trafficking act, which really helped protect women. But I wouldn't
describe Trump necessarily as the most pro-feminist protector of women we've ever had in the office.
I love all these like bills. Like I love this. This is my hilarious thing. You just name the
bill something like really righteous and then you sign it. Like, of course he's going to sign that.
If you name the bill, the anti-sex trafficking act, of course he's going to sign that. If you name a bill, the Anti-Sex Trafficking Act, you think he's going to veto that?
You think that bill comes across his desk
and be like, I don't know.
I think we got to negotiate a little more.
It's the easiest fucking bill to sign.
It's true.
What do they do?
Tell me what presidents do.
I literally cannot put my finger
on a single thing that they do
outside of like bomb
places. I mean, I think, yes, well, exactly. Military protection. And like, I mean, George
Bush launched a couple of wars. That was significant. That's had some repercussions.
And that's a bad thing. So they do bad things. What is the good?
What were we supposed to do? Forget Iraq. That was a bad idea. But Afghanistan that I mean,
they they had the Taliban. The Taliban is what gave rise to Osama bin Laden.
Should we have not done anything? I mean, honestly, I was about to give you an answer.
Right. And then I just realized I don't fucking know enough. So I just stopped myself. But I was
literally about to just lie to you. I was about be like that's how they can't do anything i was
about to say that on the recorded podcast like i'm not an expert on geopolitics okay i don't know
exactly how all this shit works and i don't know who started and what came first the chicken or
the hummus but i know for a fact that absolutely nothing ever gets done we're still in afghanistan
right yeah we're still in afghanistan can i, that's right. We're still in Afghanistan.
I don't think the average person can name three cities in Afghanistan.
Can you name three cities in Afghanistan?
Kabul.
Kabul.
We all just know Kabul because it sounds like Kaboom, which is what we've been doing there for the last 20 years.
So how do we at war with a country for or with a country against a country?
We don't even know what's going on there how we have war for decades and we have no fucking clue a city's name in afghanistan that's crazy it's it was a i mean truly we can see now 20 years later that it was in in many ways an
unwinnable war as the russians found out before we got there back in the 80s. But what were we supposed
to do? You know, it's like 3,000 people died. We had to respond. And we tried shock and awe and all
that. It just, it wasn't an easy battle to win. But we fought it. We fought it nobly. We still
got guys over there fighting it for us. And we're going to need to leave some troops there. I think
Biden's got till May to decide whether he wants to pull them all out or not. But, you know, we got
troops all over the world, because once you sort of go in there and
engage, you can't just walk out and you can't just leave all the blood and treasure.
A hundred percent. I'm not saying we just take out the cartridge and blow on it and restart.
It's not a video game. These are real lives. And if you're a soldier and you're willing to risk
your life for America, it is one of the most noble and brave things in the world.
I just want to make sure that the decision makers are using those people who are willing to risk their lives for us in the right way.
Do you see what I'm saying?
Like, don't.
That is a noble fucking thing, man, to go, I love something more and I believe in something more than my own life. It is unbelievably
selfless. Don't waste that selflessness. Don't do that because you need those people.
I don't disagree with that principle. I just think Afghanistan was a noble war. It's just,
it's such a complicated region of the world. And it's like the, the, I got longstanding
issues over there that not even 20
years with American and other troops can solve. And we're sort of, we've, I think we've come to
that reality, but out of respect for everybody who's sacrificed there, we need to need to get
out. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. That's it. I don't know.
I don't know. And I can say, I don't know. Here's one group. I can tell you, just go and be honest.
Why don't we just go and be honest? Why don't we just go and be honest?
Why don't we just go-
Well, that doesn't sound like us.
Yeah, but it might be a better policy.
Why don't we just go in and be like,
look, dude, you got oil.
We like it oil, okay?
We're gonna protect your shit.
You get to keep a piece of the oil.
Everybody's happy.
I mean, isn't that what happens in Texas?
These big oil companies go to some hillbilly
who has some land and they go, hey, we did
some research.
We found out you got some oil here.
You want to be a millionaire?
They're like, hell yeah, I want to be a millionaire.
Like, all right, we're going to suck it out for you.
Do all the work.
You get a piece of it.
They're like, hell yeah.
We can do that everywhere.
And then life is good.
Let's just be honest.
But stop acting like you care how women dress.
Like, that's the thing that annoys me the most, right?
They're like, look how they make the women dress. Isn't that bad? Don't they need freedom? Oh, they got oil? Crazy. What a coincidence.
Stop. You know what I mean? Stop, for lack of a better word, veiling it.
Stop doing this like you care about how women are treated. I hate that shit.
It's funny because I had Tim Dillon on recently and he was saying he used to be I hate to be. And also, they might not want democracy.
Like, stop thinking that democracy is the only thing that works.
No, we've certainly seen that.
We've certainly seen that.
I mean, that was that.
Listen, I like you live through the Bush administration and through 9-11.
And I was an adult when it happened.
I was 30 years old when 9-11 happened.
And I do remember thinking, OK, he's got like a blank check to protect us.
That's how the American public felt.
Blank check.
And the Iraq war was definitely controversial, even when he launched it.
And he said there were weapons of mass destruction and there weren't.
There were questions about whether there really were and why he was going there.
Was it to avenge his old man who they tried to take out and all that stuff?
But I don't know.
I just think that the quest at the time to bring democratic values.
Say why we went there to Iraq, because I don't believe it was to get their oil.
Saddam was about to get sneaky with the oil. He's like, I'll sell oil to whoever I want. I don't
got to go through you guys. And we're like, oh, word. Is that how you think things are going to
work? Same thing with Gaddafi. Gaddafi is like, what if I just create my own currency? I sell oil through that. And we're like, what? That's
not how things work. You sell oil in American dollars. And that's the only thing that is allowed
to happen in any country that tries to do otherwise. Well, they run into some problems.
They run into some big problems. So do you look back at, let's say, Colin Powell testifying before Congress and saying, here's where we believe there are WMDs and here's the map showing where we see them on the satellite and so on.
You think that was all?
I mean, we know it's not true now.
He would say a mistake.
You think it was an active lie to cover a plan to go in there and get the oil?
Protect it?
Well, based on my thorough research by watching the movie Vice.
Coming up in a minute, I'm going to ask Andrew what he thinks about the Kardashians, about Oprah Winfrey and her interview of Meghan and Harry.
And he's got thoughts. Stand by. Let me shift gears with you
to something you do know about
and that's the British Royal Family.
I know everything
about the British Royal Family.
I didn't even know how to say it.
I know absolutely everything.
Did you watch the Oprah interview?
Yeah, my girl was watching it
so I kind of watched it
over her shoulder for a little bit.
And, um, yeah, it is what it is. I mean, I just don't, they all suck.
They all suck. Everyone you're not on, you're not on team Megan or team queen.
I mean, like what I don't understand is like, let's say hypothetically, right? Let's say hypothetically, they were concerned about the baby's skin being dark, right?
Mm-hmm.
I just find it hilarious that they're less concerned about the baby being inbred than they are about it being dark.
Like, shouldn't they be through the roof that some new genes are entering that bloodline?
Thank fucking God.
Right?
Like, isn't that a time for celebration in England?
You're not going to have the same, like,
half-cards being born year after year by these families
that are just marrying cousins?
It's repulsive.
If you look at that bloodline, I mean, it's closer than Charles's eyes.
They are close.
Oh, my God.
They're very close.
Yeah, they're very close.
That's what happens.
That's what happens when your parents are related.
Everybody there is related.
And their teeth are very long.
Their teeth are very long.
They're turning into lemurs.
This is what happens.
This is what happens.
This is what happens when you have literal centuries of inbreeding. Is that even true? And I have to say, that's not the problem. That is not the problem, right? Like, I'm not on team Meghan and Harry at all. But I don't think you can blame the Americans. I think Prince Harry looks as bad as Meghan does. He's weak. He's somebody was using the term whipped, you know, like kind of do whatever your gal says. He's not strong enough to stand up for his family or his heritage or the British people. I just think like, I have no use for either one of them now. Yeah. First of all,
I'm insulted to say they're not letting Americans marry into the British royal family.
The way I looked at this is that he married into America. Like you're very lucky that you married
into America. This is the A squad. You made it to the all-star team. Okay. I mean, it's an adorable
little country that got over there, England, right? It's absolutely adorable, right?
But there hasn't exactly been a great migration from America to England.
You know, the other way around has existed.
So let's really get on track here.
I mean, like, you got a lady that writes about magic that has more money than the queen.
Get your shit together, all right?
It's not like we married into J.K. Rowling's family.
That'd be something that we should brag about.
Holy shit, we got an American in the Potter fam. That's amazing.
But the queen of England. Is that even a special thing?
It's kind of special. Yeah. I mean, it's like goes back a long time.
She's got a lot of jewels. She's got a bunch of palaces.
What do you mean she has jewels? She doesn't have jewels. She can't sell them.
She sells the jewels. then she looks poor.
So you're a prisoner of the jewels.
You really have no wealth.
She can take them out.
She can put on a tiara and a necklace and the earrings and the bracelet.
She could roll around naked in all of the crown jewels, and we can't.
She was cool when she didn't have a last name.
That was cool, okay?
Nobody knows her last name.
You don't know her last name. It's just
Elizabeth. I do too. What is her last name? It's Mountbatten, Windsor. Boom.
That was actually really impressive, Megan. I'll be honest with you right there. I thought she
didn't have a last name. I thought she was like a Brazilian soccer player. I thought you'd just
call her Elizabeth. Then you call the other one Charles. And that's just what they are. I was
like, that is kind of cool. That's a good branding thing they got going on.
But outside of that, I mean, it's impressive that she's still alive and stuff,
but who cares about the Royals?
Like, it's just so stupid.
Like, we have real families like the Kardashians here in America,
not the Royals. To think about.
Sure.
What do you think about that?
Are you a Kardashian fan?
Do you watch that show?
No, but I appreciate their influence and stuff like that.
I understand like what they are.
Yeah.
Like what they built.
It's unbelievable what they built.
From a business standpoint.
Yes.
I mean, from a business standpoint, they've been geniuses, but you know, I, I asked them,
I sat down with all of them and interviewed them together and I asked them this directly,
like, are you a force for good or a force for evil?
And there's a real debate about that in the country, as you know, given the selfie culture and the big bottoms and all surgically enhanced, but presented as though it's not. And all they care about is attention. And they will get that attention in any way possible.
Because the attention is currency.
So that is the name of the game.
But it's better that they look like that if we have to look at them all the time.
I mean, imagine they were ugly and we had to look at them all the time.
That would be so unfortunate for us.
It's like the Richard Nixon presidency.
I don't know.
Was Nixon ugly?
No, he was not an attractive man it was like he was
there should be two i don't know i think i like i don't like what the kardashians have done to
like selfie culture like i think they created it but on the other hand i confess i do click on the
i click on the pictures like when you see it on the daily mail and it's like, Oh, Kim Kardashian just posted this. I can't help myself. It's like, I don't know. Yeah. Don't move your eyes. Yeah. It's,
it's weird because did they create it or did they monetize technology that we were all going to lean
into anyway, because we're obsessed with ourselves. I don't think that they created the
idea of, I want to look better than I am. No. Right. They were just the best at it.
You know, it's like, it's like when the Greeks always say, like, they invented math.
And it's like, shut the fuck up, you idiots.
Like, like, you thought that people didn't know how to count before you.
You thought they just looked at things and they were just like, oh, it'd be great if we had a system to figure out how many of them there were.
It's just the most absurd thing in the world that anybody could invent math.
Math exists, and then you figure out the thing that exists.
You don't invent it.
They're just the Greeks of being sluts. I think they invented sort of the half nude public photo. I don't remember that being so ubiquitous before them. And now you see like the Vanity Fair after party after the Oscars, you see these models or like wannabe actresses there wearing nothing, wearing like, I think the most classless dresses
where there's basically a tube top and then right above the pubic area, the skirt begins. It's like,
oh, I miss when we used to wear clothes and we left something to the imagination.
It's, it is tricky. It is tricky because the imagination creates the desire, but the nudity gets the eyeballs.
You know, like you got to care about someone to imagine.
Like, I don't know if you've taken any naked pictures for any publication.
Like, I don't know.
I mean, it's been appropriate.
Not recently.
There would be more interest in seeing you naked than seeing the Kardashians because we've seen it already.
You see what I'm saying?
Yeah. Well, I don't? That's true. Yeah.
Well, I don't mind saucy pictures.
Saucy pictures is one thing.
Like showing everything like at the Oscars, I just like that's different to me.
That's just I love when women celebrate their own sexuality.
I think that's awesome.
I hate how feminism has gone to this place where you're no longer allowed to be sexy.
Somehow that's diminishing.
I don't accept any of that.
I'm just saying I like when women choose to be sexy and own it.
That's good.
We shouldn't be shamed out of owning that piece of ourselves.
But like a little goes a long way.
You don't have to be naked at the Oscars.
So what's the I guess what I'm trying to figure out now is like, where's the limit?
And then who gets to decide the limit?
I do.
Because whoever's at the, yeah, you do.
Whoever's at the limit, in order to have a competitive advantage, somebody's always going to go a little further, right? Like we can put all this pressure on men for like creating societal standards for women.
But the reality is, it's like we're only going to have sex with women, right?
We're not going to like go, okay, well, if women aren't shaving their legs, we're going to have sex with women, right? We're not going to like go, okay, well, if women aren't shaving their legs,
we're going to have sex with goats, right?
So you can decide to do absolutely nothing to your bodies.
You don't have to shave your legs.
You don't have to shave your pubic region.
You don't have to put on makeup.
You can do absolutely nothing,
and we will be lining up in the exact same way to have sex with you
because that's what we've been doing since the beginning of time, right?
There was no waxing. There was no Brazilian wax job, you know, 10 million years ago,
whenever Homo erectus was walking, right? So what I think happens is women, in order to get a
competitive advantage against one another, are going, oh, she shaved her legs? Well, I'm going
to shave my pubic region, right? Oh, she shaved her pubic region. Well, I'm going to get electric lasers
shot into my pores. So the hair never grows back. Like it just keeps on one and up each other.
The same way that we do it with cars. It's like, oh, that guy has a Ferrari. Well,
I'm going to get a Lamborghini encrusted with diamonds, blah, blah, blah. It just sucks for
women that like men are so shallow that we really value aesthetic over everything.
Well, but it's so, it's so random, right? Because it's like, who decided that pubic hair was
unattractive and that you needed to wax it all off to turn on a man. You need to make yourself
look like an 11 year old boy in order to turn on a grown man. I don't get that. Like what? And then,
and then like the fashions change, right?
Like the landing strip is what you should have.
Go over the triangle.
No, like a full-on bush.
Sorry, forgive me.
Or just nothing, right?
Like you got to go for the prepubescent.
It's weird.
I don't understand trendiness on these issues.
Yeah.
I also don't understand like the,
it looks like a little girl thing.
It's like, no, it doesn't. It just, it looks like a little girl thing. It's like,
no, it doesn't. It just looks like an adult woman with no hair. Like nobody sees,
nobody sees a naked porn star, right. That's shaved and goes, is that a little girl?
Whoa, that's a hot chick that doesn't have pubic hair.
Like when, how did it get unattractive? I guess, I don't know. I guess what I'm trying to say is I Whoa, that's a hot chick that doesn't have pubic hair. What happened to pubic hair?
How did it get unattractive?
I guess what I'm trying to say is I never understood that metaphor analogy that people used before.
Because when you see Michael Jordan with a shaved head, you're like, he looks like a baby.
Right?
Nobody does that.
Babies have no hair on their head often.
So how did it become attractive?
Girls wanted a competitive advantage to get guys.
And they're like, okay, guys don't like leg hair.
They probably don't like, they don't like armpit hair.
That means they don't like hair anywhere.
And we should just get rid of all the hair that exists below our eyelashes.
And now some men do it too. Now you see like some guys who have clearly had laser
treatments on their chest and it's not, it's not just like they've shaved their hair. It's like
they, they'll never see another hair there again. Yeah, it's bad. I mean, like I shaved my pubes
the other day, way too low. Like, and, uh, I just look like a detective that's been at work all
night. You know, it's just, it's just stupid. I look like Enrique Iglesias. That's what I look like.
It just looks so dumb. But I think I'm like, ah, maybe my fiance will like this or whatever. It's,
it's, it's, it's dumb. Oh, so you're engaged. Okay. I didn't know that. So,
so is it, it must be very hard for her because like I'm married to a writer and I'm always worried that something I say or something that happens in our relationship is going to wind up in one of his books.
And I would imagine it's a thousand times worse for her to be engaged to a comedian.
Oh, yes.
She knows it's happening.
If she says something wild or something funny happens, it's going to be on a podcast.
It's going to be in the stand up.
But it's easier for her because she doesn't want any attention
at all she like hates attention so she's like private on instagram she doesn't want to be put
in pictures or any of that kind of stuff which works out for me because i want to protect her
from all this that i want to protect her from any like internet scrutiny because she doesn't want it
like she's not asking for that like this is my career she shouldn't have to suffer because of
that but um but yeah she knows it's going to be on the podcast but at least she doesn't want it. Like she's not asking for that. Like this is my career. She shouldn't have to suffer because of that. But, um, but yeah, she knows it's going to be on the podcast,
but at least she doesn't have people like writing comments underneath her pictures. Like, Oh,
I was so dumb. The thing you said, or blah, blah, blah. Right. That takes a special level of thick
skin. So, so she's not in the industry. She's not in the entertainment industry at all. No,
no, no. She's getting her master's. And did you, have you ever dated celebrities or, you know, people in the industry?
Yeah, maybe a little bit or like people. Yeah, maybe, you know.
What do you mean maybe? I guess. I don't know. Who's a celebrity
anymore? There's no more celebrities. There's just, you know, there's no more. Justin Bieber
was like the last universally famous person. Wait a minute. Outside of like presidents. Yeah. If you said these women's just, you know, there's no more. Justin Bieber was like the last universally famous person. Wait a minute.
Outside of like presidents.
Yeah.
If you said these women's names, would I know them?
Maybe.
Maybe no one.
Maybe something.
Maybe.
I don't know.
What happened?
Because like sometimes when you have two people who really need attention, it doesn't work out.
I don't even know if that was that was the issue.
But yeah, that that definitely can be an issue.
But sometimes I'm just like picky like i won't uh sacrifice my joy you know like um i just i admire
mormons so much because they can like just be uncomfortable like whenever i talk to like people
who like left mormonism it's it's like uh kind of pretty traumatic for them but i think it's
traumatic because they're
like why is everybody else around me happy and i'm not you know so it's like no i know what you
mean you know what i'm saying yeah no no i've i've often thought like i was saying this to somebody
recently like i i want i want to become a mormon before my kids get to the age where they're going
to start drinking and wanting to do drugs and things like that because Mormons, they do a good job of not doing that stuff.
Yeah. They really lock that down. And they're like sweet people. We were just in Salt Lake
doing shows and they're like really sweet people. And they're like amazing business acumen. They've
got this like incredible, uh, you know, ability to like build wealth within the community. And
yeah, they're just a fascinating people. And we look at them like,
they're these like weirdos and there's some odd things about every religion,
I'm sure, but like genuinely nice people that have created like a really nice
city to live in, you know, they're, they're like the gays, you know,
it's just, it's just great.
Except the gays don't wear the full body underwear.
Yeah. Well, you haven't been to the right parties in far around megan that's all i have to say that's 100 true that's there's no
question about that i just think that it's it's kind of cool so are you gonna have kids yeah i'd
love to love to have some kids when she you know i don't want to put any uh pressure on her she's
still finishing her her degree And then she'll join the
workforce for a little bit. And then we'll take advantage of that maternity leave. That's the
goal. Just get her a job and then immediately knock her up. That is take advantage of the
matriarchy or whatever that is. Yes. It's such a leisurely time after you squeeze another
human being out of your body. It's just like being on vacation at the spa. I know, right? I mean,
it's just the easiest thing in the world. I mean, isn't that hard to get it out? Like you think that
we'd figure that out by now through evolution, right? So can I tell you, it wasn't for me
because I had three c-sections
and my kids are always asking me yeah so i i feel like it was actually kind of lucky because my
first kid was what they call transverse which means like sideways oh i thought you said trans
i thought you said your first kid was trance and i was like already dude like
right no he came out and i could recognize immediately he would be called a baby
right right so your kid was just like chilling in there like uh what was it like kate winslet
in the titanic like when she was getting drawn by not at all he was at like he was at like uh
let's say two o'clock it would be like40 if you're looking at the hands on a clock.
You know what I mean?
It was like diagonal.
And my OB said, well, you can either try to go naturally and you'd be in labor for 30 hours and then I'd have to do a C-section on you or we can just schedule a C-section.
I was like, I don't need to be a hero.
Let's schedule the C.
Because I love these women who make you feel like you didn't actually have a baby if you have a C-section.
It's like, I still have a baby.
I see the baby.
Anyway, so then I had the other two by C-section.
And like, honestly, your abs hurt for a couple of weeks after.
And that's it.
It's not.
I didn't find it that unpleasant.
Although your body springing back is a different story.
It takes a little bit, right?
It takes a little bit.
Sure does. It's funny, too, because you'll be sitting in there about to give birth and they
always say to you and your husband, now remember you can't have sex for six weeks after this baby's
born. And of course the husband's like six weeks and the wife is like six weeks as soon as six
weeks. I mean, it takes like a year to come back from an ACL.
And that seems like way less than a birth.
You know?
Yeah, that's crazy.
I feel for my fellow women who went the other way.
But also you have to look at it like this.
Like you must have gotten it back because you had two more babies.
I did.
And you want to know how I did it?
How'd you do it? I breastfed. I always say women are selling like the breastfeeding sort of
super Nazis. They are selling breastfeeding all wrong. Like I get it's best for the baby and
every mom cares about that. But what, what we really need to get motivated on is how,
how to get rid of those extra 30 pounds and all the saggy flesh that's newly all over us.
Breastfeeding, it like snaps everything back into shape. And by the time the baby's like six months,
you're burning off between five and 800 calories a day just by sitting there. It's awesome.
That's amazing. Can people breastfeed when they don't have kids? Can just fat people breastfeed?
I've asked that. I would love to find a job. Like how do the wet nurses do it? Like how to, I've heard, I've heard stories about
like if you adopt a child, somehow you can get the boobs fired up. Like it would be brilliant.
That way you would never have to exercise. We wouldn't even need the vaccine. Just get all
the fat people breastfeeding. Then they won't be fat. They don't die from COVID. And then we're
good to go. Open up the country. Coming up in one second, we're going to talk to Andrew about when he had COVID.
And also, he's got some strong thoughts on Sacha Baron Cohen.
Does he like that kind of comedy or not?
But first, I want to bring you a feature that we call Asked and Answered here on The Megyn
Kelly Show.
And that's where we answer some of our listener questions.
Steve Krakauer is our executive producer.
He's got the question for us this week. Hey, Steve. Hey, Megan. This one came to us at
questions at devilmaycaremedia.com. Anyone can email and we try to answer questions every week.
This one from Kimberly Hahn. She wants to know, how do you do all the research and watching the
news without being scared all the time? I want to be informed. I also want to leave my house.
Tips or tricks on how you compartmentalize all the information we're fed each day?
That's a good question. I think, number one, remember that the media exaggerates most things.
They really do. Sensationalism sells, outrage sells, drama sells, especially when you're watching cable news. So if that's how you get your information, but also broadcast news. I mean,
I've worked at ABC and NBC, and they all have this knee-jerk instinct to, forgive the term, but like sex it up, right? To make it sexier or as
sexy as it can be and to lead with the thing that's scariest. So try not to get all of your
news from television. I think the papers are actually better at this. And try to get your
news from multiple sources, right? Read from the left and the right. I do think that the left is
prone to more hysteria, but trust me, working on
Fox for all those years, they like the, if it bleeds, it leads approach too. They'll definitely
go for the most outrageous stuff. So just remember that and discount everything you're hearing by a
factor of 20%, I'd say. That's sort of how I stayed calm during the whole COVID thing. I'm
like, I know it's real. I know it's serious, but there's absolutely 100% chance that they're enjoying playing
this up.
That's how they are.
It's disgusting, but it's true.
So just remember that.
And honestly, like, you don't want to live your life that way.
The more time you wallow in fear, the worse off you are in this world.
Like, put down the newspaper if you have to.
Like, my sister-in-law, Diane, she's lived most of her life not really being up on the
news.
And she lives in Cape Cod, and she's an oyster fisherman. She's great. Got a great story. She
went to Duke undergrad and Harvard for grad school. And now she's an oyster fisherman on Cape Cod,
but she's a happy person. You know, I, she started getting into all the COVID news and
the vaccines and all that. She's gotten a little less happy, I think, because
she's getting closer to the news. So to be honest, the news can stress you out,
but I think not to be too
self-promotional, but you're in the right place. I think one thing we do well here is we don't
discuss the news with hysteria. And we'll continue to do that because if you go to hysterical people
to deliver you your facts, you're going to wind up a little bit more hysterical yourself.
We're fine. It's all going to work out in the end. Hefty, you know, more than a grain of salt,
a big old boulder of salt.
When you listen to journalists trying to tell you the sky is falling and read a book, hug your kid
and remember, I think it was Barry Weiss or maybe it was, it was Alana. I'm trying to remember who
it was, but they said, remember that the things that matter most in your life are generally within
12 feet of you, right? The things and the people.
And that doesn't even include me, but it includes your family and your friends and your home and yourself and your love.
That's where you go.
That's what matters.
Sky has not yet fallen and we're all going to be okay.
Thanks for the question.
Back to Andrew right after this.
The CDC said 78% of people who were hospitalized or needed a ventilator or who died from COVID-19 have been overweight or obese.
Almost 80%. Do you think it's that they die of COVID or not being able to taste food for three days?
Oh, God.
I think it's it's underscores the folly.
It underscores the folly of closing the gyms.
That's the worst time to close the gyms.
That's true.
Get people in the gyms immediately.
Did you get Corona?
No, I didn't. Nope. Don't come to Florida. You will gyms immediately. Did you get Corona? No, I didn't.
Nope.
Don't come to Florida.
You will get it immediately.
Me and I had it already back home,
but everybody on my team that moved to Florida with me
got it within a week.
Literally within a week.
Every single one of them.
Yeah, it's a guaranteed rite of passage.
You move to Florida, you get Corona.
It is what it is.
100%.
But do people care?
I heard people don't care about Corona down in Florida. If you wear wear a mask it's almost looked down upon in a lot of places they're like really
like people love to tell you that they don't do the mask thing that's what they go yeah we don't
do the mask thing the thing i really like about it is i took a cross-country flight and i fell
asleep and it it saves your dignity when you fall asleep and your jaw falls open.
Yeah.
Good point.
Good point.
Also, everybody's better looking with a mask.
There are advantages to the mask.
Not Prince Charles with his beady little eyes.
Yeah.
Charles doesn't have a good mask face.
But yeah, I mean, it covers up them British teeth, though.
I mean, maybe that's why they're like, there's a new strain.
They just keep making up strains in the UK.
Just cover their fucking teeth.
So what happened to you when you got it?
Did it level you?
We were actually in the middle of doing the Netflix special.
And we got it.
And I mean, it was whatever.
It wasn't that bad.
I mean, I'm in pretty good shape.
You know, it's just kind of annoying.
You're just like knocked out for 10 days.
You just lower energy and you're tired easier.
But yeah, it was okay.
I was...
Were you scared at all?
No, not really, to be honest with you.
I wasn't really scared. No, I mean, maybe a little bit in the back of your head. I was more scared that like, if my, my fiance got it, if something happened to her, or if like my parents got it, because they were around me. And then I was in some way responsible for their death. That was terrifying for me. But yeah, how old are you are you uh 37 yeah so you have almost no risk
from this thing so are you gonna get the vaccine now because you know yes do it whatever there's
a question about whether you need it after you had it yeah i don't honestly i don't know do we
do the vaccine like let's get back to normal what do you need me to do to get back to normal yeah
like that's i mean like do we do the vaccine do we not do the vaccine? Like, let's get back to normal. What do you need me to do to get back to normal? Like, that's, I mean, like, do we do the vaccine?
Do we not do the vaccine?
Like, what happens?
But we need to get back.
It's been enough for the year.
Come on.
You're one of the few people for whom COVID has been, I think, great professionally.
Am I wrong?
Like, you found a way.
Yeah.
You found a way.
Like, you know, it's just like the evolutionary
process. You found a way to keep getting your comedy out there on YouTube, which became huge.
And like the, the number of hits on those videos, which is where I first saw you
and the Netflix special, it's like your career's taken off in this thing.
Yeah. I mean, the way I look at it is like i mean i knew this was gonna happen
because um once i saw like the late night shows and all the other comedy shows like once they
started producing stuff out of their homes i was like oh yeah this is a home game for me
like you're competing with me at what i do right so i've had to compete with you guys without all
the flashy lights and a million different camera angles and a fake crowd and all that kind of stuff.
So it's like once once they were on my field, I was like, oh, it's done.
So this is guaranteed to the moon, Dogecoin, whatever it is.
And yeah, and I just got a great, you know, great team of guys that are just like, you know, we're all on the same page with what we want to do, what we want to put out and um we just decided we're going to go out there and just murder shit this
year and uh it is it is weird to be like yeah the best year of my my career happened during the worst
year of most people's uh lives but um but yeah it is uh you got to be able to take advantage of
things i don't know you gotta be able to take advantage of things. I don't know. You got to be able to thrive.
No, but you're, you're in one of those businesses where your career doing well helps the rest
of the people do well.
You're, I mean, you're in the business of making people laugh.
That's, what did they need more this past year other than PPE?
Yeah, right.
I guess, I don't know.
I don't like to look at myself in that way at all.
Like, you know, we, I'm doing this selfishly. I enjoy making people laugh because it makes me feel good. Once you're an entertain funny Before he pretended to be this like activist. It's like dude, you're not an activist
You need people to tell you you're good and funny and smart you need it or else you get depressed and sad
Okay, so you created these characters and to be honest, you're kind of a douchebag, right?
Like you're taking advantage of kind people who like let you in their home
Out of the kindness of their hearts and then let you in their home out of the kindness
of their hearts and then humiliating them for like millions of people right and lying to them
on the process of humiliating them and then letting the lawyers fight it out when they sue you after
they were nice to you and then you humiliated them and misrepresented them um but when so i
don't even have an issue if he did that if it was was like a prank show, I'm like, okay, that's fine. We all love prank shows. They're absolutely hilarious. The second he started going like, my comedy exposes racism and sexism and Islamophobia and antisemitism and all this nonsense. And it's like, oh, dude, do you really think that we need you to tell us that racism exists in America?
Right. Can you just make us laugh? Yeah, dude. Exactly. Just be like, hey, I'm a douchebag that takes advantage of
people and makes millions of dollars. And that's what I do. And we'll go, yeah, funny. You're the
funniest douchebag. But the fact that you acted like you're exposing something. Oh, shut the fuck
up. Shut your mouth.
That's what I feel like when I see it.
I don't like him either.
I do.
I don't like mean and he's mean.
And like when you get people feeling sorry for Rudy Giuliani, you know, you're you're mean.
I felt bad with what he did to Rudy.
I like I don't know, just the whole thing.
I just every time I see him, I'm like, oh, trigger.
I just like every time I see him, I'm like, Oh, trigger. I just like, he's nasty, but it's, he's sort of a bigger version of the late night comedians who are also
mean and not that funny. And you know, that, that home gig is really exposing. It's exposing
how badly they need the audience with sitting in front of the applause signs.
That's the thing. It's they're not, the late night guys. They're just,
they want to be invited to the party, man. This is something that happens when you get in LA.
And like most of these guys, like most comics are losers, right? Like they never got laid till they
started doing comedy, right? So they're just kind of nerds. And like when nerds get to sit at what
they think is the cool table, it's really exciting exciting and then when you act as if they could
have their seat removed they'll do anything to keep that seat so you get guys who are absolutely
hilarious earlier in their career like jimmy kimmel just completely you know turning into these like
i don't know just kind of like maybe like left wing mouthpieces just to keep their job i guess
like and i wouldn't even care completely nudist i don't care if you're like like left wing mouthpieces just to keep their job, I guess.
Like,
and I wouldn't even care completely nudist.
I don't care if you're like a left wing mouth or right wing mouth.
I don't care if that's what you believe in, but the fact that you're completely changing who you are to fit the model
that is the show.
So you can keep buying houses and fucking Utah or wherever you want to
live.
It's just so corny to me.
I just,
it's just not funny. I feel like we all witnessed that happen. We all witnessed that happen with
Jimmy Fallon, who I think is, is much more likable than those other guys. But of course he surrendered
like he, he got hit for having that fun interview with Trump or he ruffled the hair. People were
like, you normalized him. And then he tried to go political and like anti-Trump and it didn't work.
You could tell it wasn't authentic.
Yeah.
And it was just awkward.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, God bless Jimmy.
He's always been awkward to me.
I don't.
Yeah, I've never thought I'd really like to hear Jimmy have a discussion with somebody.
I think that they did a brilliant job of of just creating games out of the show.
And the thing that they did different that I thought was really smart is made the celebrities look vulnerable in the games.
So instead of Jimmy getting a pie thrown in his face, it's Ariana Grande or some famous person that you would never see in a vulnerable moment.
And I was like, oh, that's genius what they did.
And they'll use Jimmy's likability and then create these games and it's fun but um yeah once he like went political and then they just all pussied out that's the thing it's like the second there's a little bit of negative feedback they get so
terrified because they think that the internet is reality when it's not reality you know and um
and yeah that but that's you know that's the thing is like when you have your own platforms
like you have your own youtube page patreon or your own podcast like your own you only have to
be loyal to your constituents right you only have to be loyal to your shareholders if you will
but if you work for nbc or even netflix you have to be loyal to their shareholders and their constituents. And their shareholders are not a monolith.
Some of their shareholders might be upset at the shit you say.
Some of their shareholders might like it.
And if those people that are upset are loud enough, they can potentially cancel you because
ABC or NBC has to be loyal to their shareholders, not to the show that they're putting on.
So you're always going to be vulnerable to that with the current system that we have,
unless you control your platform.
That's right.
In other circumstances, they can use whatever you say as an excuse to get rid of you for
whatever else is happening behind the scenes that they're upset about.
You know, it's like, is that the mercy of these?
No comment.
Are you not allowed to talk about that stuff?
I'm not even allowed to talk about whether I'm allowed to talk.
Really?
Let's just say, let me put it in general terms.
Wow.
Let's just say my industry is so fucked up because when media people get in trouble, you're fighting media people who know how to manipulate the media and do an all out assault on you. So it's, it's like high level jujitsu and you might've been trained
a little, but you're never going to be trained as well or control as many outlets as the big
companies do. So whatever narrative they want to put out, they can put out and you can fight back,
but it's teaspoons in the ocean. One thing I like about you is you're totally non-PC. I even,
I have a very high bar for all conversation and jokes and discussion. And I had a couple moments
where I was like, oh my God, I can't look at the screen and watching some of your stuff. But I,
I like that. It's refreshing. You're not afraid to go there.
No, because I don't need to be right. I'm telling you how I feel. And how I feel is sometimes wrong, and sometimes it's right. But it is how I feel. And I think comics that are good comics and get things right, and even pundits that do the same thing can express that they have a feeling without saying that that's how the world should be. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, I'm sure there are times where like my girlfriend,
my fiance, whatever the hell term we have to use,
but I'm sure there are times where she wants to just like punch me in the face.
Now, that's a wrong thing to do.
And she doesn't do it, but she felt like she wanted to.
I'm not going to be angry at her for that feeling
because that's, I'm sure, a relatable feeling.
I'm sure a lot of people want to punch me in the face. Matter of fact, it might be the most relatable feeling
that she has in terms of the general public. So as long as I put things out there in terms of
how I feel and not dictate whether things are right or wrong, I think that that's something
that people can respect because you're just being honest,
you know? Now, but do you get, so in a way I, I've helped this as a compliment, but in a way
you remind me of Dave Chappelle where he just says the most incendiary things that you are not
allowed to say. You are not allowed to say that you can't use racial stereotypes or short forms
about black people, about Asians,
about white people, but Italians about what? And you're like, no, I don't follow any of those rules.
And your audience laughs there. They're there with you. They and they can't all know what
they're getting when they go to see Andrew Schultz. Some some may not know what they're
I've never seen people recoil in horror that you've crossed the third rail of politically correct comedy. So
is that, well, I don't know, is it scary for you in today's day and age of wokeness to
be as bold on that as you are? No, not at all. Not at all.
Least bit scary. No, this is, this is just funny. This is what we do. Also, I've got the most
diverse audience in comedy. It's not even close. So it's like, when I'm telling a joke, if I'm
saying a joke about an Asian person or a black person, right, I'm saying it to their face.
With other black people or Asians or white people or Jews or Muslims, whatever, it's happening to
them and you get to see how they react. So instead of like a bunch of like white ladies coming on the
internet and being offended on behalf of someone else who isn't even angry, you get to see how they react. So instead of like a bunch of like white ladies coming on the internet and being offended on behalf of someone else who isn't even angry, you get to see how they react in the moment.
And there's a trust that's built up because I've been doing this for over a decade, right? And these
people know me and they know my heart and they know what we're all signing up for when we come
out to the show, right? Everybody's taking part of this, right? It's a dodgeball game. It's like,
when you go to play dodgeball, you're not upset if someone hits you with dodgeball right because that's what you signed up for
so yeah i don't i don't worry about it matter of fact it's like i relish in it like these are the
times where like great comedians get to be born like great comedians come from times of censorship
they don't come from times of say whatever the fuck you want you name any great comedian throughout
history they were pushing back against something there was some sort of institution where you know that
that the general public didn't like that made their voice valuable if you could say anything
then when you can say anything comedy becomes like irreverent and it becomes absurdist you know
you're talking about like um like a zach Galifianakis types really thrive when you could say anything, you know?
Yeah.
Because we're like, okay, well, what is there to push back against?
Well, we'll push back against the institution of comedy.
There's no institutions to push back against.
Well, we'll push back against comedy itself.
But when there are institutions to push back against, when there is some sort of like cultural unrest, that's when,
you know, comics who are confident in their feelings and believe in their feelings tend
to thrive. So it's cool. Well, and you're, what I've noticed is you're an equal opportunity
offender. There's no group that's safe, which is what makes it so fun. Like everyone's going to
get it. And they, and they're laughing too. And one thing i noticed about you that i don't i've spent
a lot of time at the comedy cellar which i freaking love um not all comedians laugh heartily
at their own best jokes but yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm funny that's why
all right so is that what's happening you're genuinely cracking yourself up yeah like there's two times well two like ways i'll laugh on stage right like one way i'll laugh
is like if something happens in the moment that is just so wild because a lot of moments that i
share on youtube i have like an hour of material that like i'll do on the road but i also will just
you know mess around with the audience and like, you know, we'll have these
crazy moments. Like just last week in Salt Lake, there's a guy and his girlfriend is at the show.
And then the guy next to the girl just so happened to have had sex with the girl before
the other couple started dating. So it's just like this crazy occurrence that will never happen
again. And we happen to record it. So like we put that out. So these things are always fun. These things are happening for me as well. Right? So I'm seeing something
happening in real time. And I'm like, Oh, that's really funny that that happened. And then the
other reason why I laugh is I can't fucking believe that I'm able to say these things
out loud for a living. Like, I'll just say something and then I'll just kind of chuckle myself. He was like,
this is a crazy way to make a living. What the fuck just happened?
You are on the tightrope.
Yeah. But it makes no sense. It makes no sense. Megan, it makes no sense.
So were you always funny?
Yeah.
Yeah. You came into the world that way. Yeah.
Yeah. I was, I was, uh, yeah, I was funny and I valued being funny. I always, I always,
and I value people that were funny. I really admired people that were funny, you know, like,
uh, older, I didn't have any older brothers, but like my friends who had older brothers, if they were funny, you know, I just loved listening to them say jokes and bust balls. And
I just thought they were the coolest people. Like if you were funny, you were the coolest guy to me.
Right. Anybody who's funny was just my, my aunts were really funny. My mom's Scottish and like
Scottish women have like a real sharp wit. Like I get my, my wit from my, the women on my mom's side.
Same.
And it is, I mean, they're just, they were brutal. They toughened me up. They toughened me up. Those
women were brutal. And, um, oh my God, the dudes couldn't keep up with them. They would run the house and they would tear these guys down. It was unbelievable to see. So like, I also may be a little bit tough when we come to like the gender dynamic stuff. Cause I just grew up with like really strong, successful women. So like when I hear like these like chicks who went to Harvard crying about how hard it is for women, I'm just like, sweetheart, grow the fuck up. Get some better role models.
To me, too.
There's nothing more incendiary, more infuriating than seeing somebody with a ton of advantages playing the victim and acting like everything has undermined them. It's like I was just talking about this after Rush Limbaugh died, because one of his most controversial moments was when he was referring to this Sandra Fluck as a slut.
He called her a slut.
It's not a nice thing to do.
I get it.
But Rush was part comedian, number one.
A lot of his bits were done with that sort of tongue-in-cheek attitude.
And number two, Sandra Fluck went and testified before Congress about how we all needed to pay for her birth control.
And it was outrageous.
She was pissed that birth control can run up the bills every month.
And how was she supposed to
afford it meanwhile she was at georgetown law school georgetown law like give me a break i
went to albany law school somehow i found a way sandra try harder yeah but you know what's weird
is like yeah i'll pay for your birth control like i don't think guys are pushing back on that that
much right there's one thing we're probably willing to pay for it's birth control I don't think guys are pushing back on that that much.
If there's one thing we're probably willing to pay for,
it's birth control.
What dude is going to be like, nope,
they got to cough it up themselves.
I'll pay $18 for a cocktail, but I refuse to pay 30 cents a month
for all women to have birth control.
You raise a good point.
Rush did not feel the same. you see this happen all the time where like uh i actually it kind of like annoys me that like that there's like um this this like
pushback against feminism right which you see not only this modern like third wave or fourth wave i
don't know how many fucking waves we're at right now, but in its inception,
the way like I've digested feminism is it's almost as if like some dudes snuck
in there and like convinced women to become awesome.
You know, like they,
literally you see these marches where girls are like,
I want to be able to free the nipple.
And it's like, is that really your idea?
Or did a guy convince you guys to take your shirts off?
Girls are like, we should be able to get abortions.
Girls are like, we need to make equal money so we could work.
Like, we could pay half of the bill.
And it's like, yeah, this is awesome.
Like, guys, shut the fuck up.
Just let them do this shit.
Okay.
Because we're on the same page.
Finally.
Right.
I never looked at it quite that way.
Feminism is for men.
I think we invented it.
Tell me one bad thing for dudes.
Like I get to, I get to pay half for dinner.
Girls get to walk around topless all the time.
If we make a little mistake, you know, she's 100% down to take care of it.
It's like, tell me where this is at.
You no longer have to hold doors open for us.
You don't have to let us pay when we go out to dinner.
You don't have to pay when you go out to dinner.
It's like there are a lot of advantages.
You're right.
Now that I think it through.
I mean, this seems like feminism seems like it is a bigger disadvantage to women than
it is to men.
Like, I don't know.
It's just, instead of like having your bra hold your boobs up all day, you got to just
let them fucking hang there.
Like, bra seems convenient.
Right?
Like.
That could be good.
That could be bad.
My mom, my mom always jokes, my my mom's gonna be 80 in july she always jokes that uh when she was younger uh she was a 38c but now
she's almost 80 she's a 44 long she needs that bra she can't burn that bra she never wears one
she never i'm like mom you gotta wear
a bra she's like i don't like it's uncomfortable meanwhile there's this story that lives in infamy
of my family of when uh she went it was it was like basic it was almost parodied in the movie
swingers um my mom and the family went out to a diner she's sitting on the one end of the booth
and my sister whose daughter was just a baby is right across from her and my mom's going
how big is emily which is the baby so big with the arms above the head so big and there's a guy
in the booth behind suzanne and emily like staring at my mother and my mother is like she can't take
her eyes off of me he can't take his eyes off of me look at him look at him i mean truly half of
this was parodied in swingers and uh my mom's like, I still got it. Which she always says. She's always like, I still got it.
And it turns out my mom didn't have a bra on.
And she lifted up her sweatshirt as she's going so big.
And showing her tits?
Yes.
And they're so long now.
They're like the 44 long.
She didn't.
Oh, I love it.
She got those Aladdin slippers.
That's what happens to tits is they keep going.
What's an Aladdin slipper?
What do you mean?
I don't get it.
You know Aladdin?
Yeah.
You know the movie Aladdin?
You know the shoes he wears?
They're like pointy at the tip.
That's what boobs turn into.
I certainly hope not.
Oh my God.
Also, Swingers.
Movie changed my life.
How?
Robin, it's just like the most amazing movie I ever saw in my entire life,
especially at this like,
I forget exactly how old I was when I saw it,
but like my whole life changed in that moment.
It was spectacular.
It really was.
Vince Vaughn.
Oh, he was amazing.
He basically taught me in that moment,
like you can be charming and charismatic
to women and they will appreciate it. Wait, what showed you that in that movie?
He would go up to these girls and he'd just say wild stuff and have these crazy stories and big
up his friends and like, oh, look how cool my friend is. And yeah, we're going to do this.
And he was just this crazy schmoozer right and like
the way that he would talk about how cool his friends were so that the girls would see value
in his friends but it also made him look cool to be so vulnerable to like big up his friend instead
of himself and i think before that all my examples of like male role models were either like bruce
willis like like in order to get laid i gotta got to save America, which is a lot, right?
Or super like romantic movies where, you know, our love has been etched in stone and yada, yada, yada.
It was the first person I saw that like reflected what I thought my personality was.
And I didn't know that you could use that personality with the opposite sex and that they would like find it fun and entertaining and immediately after that i was like oh that's how you can meet women and like
court women you can have fun with them you don't have to like pretend you're in a fucking romantic
not even romantic comedy like some like romance novel and you're so beautiful and i love you your
hair is this and i i long for you and all this other nonsense. But
you can actually treat them like human beings and be charming and fun with them. And it was just so
cool to see that. Don't get me wrong. If we watch the movie now, I'm sure it's douchey and sexist
and all this other stuff. But who cares? Yeah. But at its core, I thought it was really cool
to show that women like charming guys.
I think that they want a knight in shining armor when it requires a knight in shining armor.
But I think that a knight in shining armor all the time is exhausting.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, I do.
I don't know.
I think you're insulting women's intelligence by acting as if you can't engage them intellectually.
And I think banter is what I think British people call it, is an intellectual endeavor.
It's fun to exchange whips with someone.
And I don't know, the women I've always connected with value that.
And I've always valued that, you know, in them. And I think, I think when society
is critical of like hot chicks that just have nothing else, that's what they're actually
critical of. They just don't know how to express it. It's almost like, I, I understand you're hot,
but I still want to have banter with you. And if you think that you can just be hot and not supply any banter, that's almost insulting to me.
Well, you're going to wind up with a loser.
You're going to wind up with a loser.
That's the hard thing.
Like women, they got to work on developing their whole personalities because if you're just going to go off your looks, you're going to wind up with a loser.
That's the truth.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And look, you should have some.
Maybe it's sexist to say this, but yeah, I think guys should try to be successful financially still. There's going to be a time where your girl can't do anything because she just squeezed the baby out. She's got to look after that for a few months. You should be able to hold it down for that time period. If I was a girl, it's pretty vulnerable. I like to make you feel like you're secure. So I don't know if that's sexism. You can call it sexism if you want. But like if my girl goes, hey, I think I'd like to take a few months off
after squeezing a human being out of my vagina. Can you hold it down? I'm like, yeah, that's the
point. That's that's my job. So maybe we need a little bit of sexism. In a perfect world, you've
got the woman has a good job and her maternity leave is going to make that whole decision a lot
easier. But yeah, the partnership. And I mean, I love what you're saying about swingers because I love that
movie too. And Vince Vaughn, I mean, it's what made him a star and his character was utterly
charming. And I'm sure you related to it because he was funny. He was quick. He was clever. And I
like what you said about how he built his friend up. That's so true too. I think that's attractive in either sex,
right? Not to be threatened by your friend, but to be showing them off, but to be supporting them,
to be building them up. Yes. It's attractive actually. Like someone with the confidence
to big up their friends. It, to me, I'm looking at that person like, Oh, you're so confident in
who you are that you don't even need my validation.
You want my validation to go to your friend?
That's hot.
Right.
It's true.
You're so money, you don't even know it.
You're so money, you don't even know it, Megan.
Do you watch a lot of movies?
Like, is that, what do you do in your spare time?
Like, how do you refuel that brain with new information for your act god i don't know to be honest with you that's a great i just try to
feel things and like uh anytime i try to write jokes about things that i don't have any connection
to it doesn't work out yeah it's like i need to well you seem like you're watching the news a lot
because your your humor is so timely not even to, to be honest with you. When we were
doing the weekly pieces where I would do those like rants, we would do an immense amount of
research and it was like, it was a painful amount of research so that we could be like right. But
when we're just busting balls, like I, again, I just like to soak in what the story is and then
just say how I feel about the story. You know, like what is my knee jerk? Like when I found out like
China was doing those like anal swab tests, you know? Oh my God. It's just to tell, tell the
audience what you're talking about. Cause that was horrible. So like for foreigners, if you want
to go to China now, there's a new COVID test that was developed. It's actually more accurate,
they say. And it, the swab doesn't go up your nose. goes up your rectum right and um my knee-jerk
reaction to that was um you know why do chinese people need to get a hundred on every test
you know like isn't 99 good enough right like what's the PCR? Is that 98?
Like I'll take a 98.
So like that's just,
that's the type of way that I can write jokes.
I just have to feel something.
I can't manifest it.
Like there's some comics,
they just try to say the funniest thing about Uber.
I don't care about that.
I want to feel something about the topic.
That's hilarious and so disturbing. I mean,
whereupon no one ever went to visit China again, ever. Who would do that? Who would consent?
You're walking around China and everybody there goes, whoa, you really want to be here.
They're just looking at you laughing. They know what you went through to have a Peking duck.
That's a big sacrifice.
And the story was we had a bunch of diplomats go over there, the U.S., and many of them were subjected to this.
And the story was they complained because they felt it was undignified, like you think.
Yeah.
Send me back, dude.
We're not doing this.
You're not putting anything in my butt.
I don't care.
No. Oh in my butt. I don't care. No, no.
Oh my God.
I mean, that takes like the TSA search that we find undignified to a whole new level.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
That's just not going to happen.
You're not going to do it.
Send me back.
I would just say, send me back.
Put me back.
Put me on a plane.
You're not going to put anything in my butt.
It's not happening.
I don't care.
It's not going to happen.
I don't put anything in my own butt.
I don't do that to me. So you can't do that to my to me so you can't
do that to me well let me tell you something this describes a lot of sexual experiences a lot of
women have had and discussions let's get something straight right from the top
the anal swab it's just an anal swab
that's all you won't feel a thing.
I never understood that.
I never understood why people even want to explore that hole.
It just doesn't make sense to me.
Straight people, you mean.
Yeah, well, gay guys got to do it because that's the only option.
It's not like they want to.
It's not the only option, but it's, yeah. I mean, it's the only option where you guys still get to have a nice conversation.
Do you think that's what they're doing?
It's the only option where you can still have eye contact.
You know, the important things about sex.
Maybe.
Maybe, maybe not.
I don't know.
It's just so weird. Like, it it's just this it's almost like this manifest
destiny thing about it you know like well i feel bad for the girls today because you know back in
my day men had access to like penthouse penthouse forum uh but there was no internet when i grew up
in the 80s and now these kids are like looking at the dirtiest most disgusting weird porn that
no one in real life does and trying to convince these young girls that that's a thing.
Right. Like that's what everybody's doing. That's what sex is like. It's ruining sex for both parties.
You know what? You're 100 percent right. And like people adults that grew up watching porn and thinking that's what sex is.
And the problem with that is porn is for men.
Like, it's not for girls. There are girls in it, but it's not for them. Right. They
had like, I know a lot of girls that say they watch lesbian porn and I'm like, yeah, that makes
sense. Even if you're not gay, because at least they're trying to make the women feel good.
So it's like you put up with the lesbianism because you're like, well, at least I can
imagine that I'm that girl. And there there's someone that wants me to feel good in the porn. But there's all these girls that are growing up thinking that's what's normalized sex is. I'm shocked that this is not like a story every single day.
I know.
It's crazy. Pamela Anderson. Really? Pamela Anderson has made this one of her, this and Julian Assange.
Those are animals.
Those are her three big causes.
But she knows a thing or two about this weird industry.
She was never a porn star.
She gave pictures to Playboy.
No, she had the porn.
She had the video.
It's adjacent.
Well, but that wasn't like her willingly engaging in porn, right?
Wasn't that just like a home video of action that then got released or stolen? It was stolen out of their house.
Stolen. You're right. It was stolen. Yeah.
Yeah. She's I've talked to her. She's actually I mean, I don't know how to say this, but the phrase that's coming to my head is she's a good girl. Like she's she's smart and she's thoughtful. And she was like, she also had a really interesting outlook on Harvey Weinstein. Like she said, like the women, they need to think hard,
long and hard about why they accept an invitation to go right into his hotel room at 11 o'clock at
night for, for a meeting. And I, and I could defend the women all day long, but I just,
I like different thinkers who are like, remember this too. I was Pamela Anderson. I never did that.
I had lots of opportunities, but my mom in Canada told me, beware, right?
That's interesting about Weinstein.
You know who I don't think gets enough shit with Weinstein
is the people that protected Weinstein
because like they're gonna be Weinsteins in the world.
Like obviously this guy's a douchebag
and he should die in jail,
but like there's gonna be more versions of him, right?
And women should be able
to complain about Weinstein and also by the way there's Weinsteins for dudes in Hollywood too
like this is the big kept secret right there's a bunch of like gay casting directors and like gay
producers etc they're like take advantage of these you know young actors and they're doing the exact
same thing but nobody wants to talk about it.
But that's fine.
But so there are people that protect the wine scene.
In other words, there are girls that complain about that time in the hotel room and then they get silenced.
And that I have a huge problem with because there are going to be other wine scenes.
And you should be able to complain about these people and have your complaints
listened to and heard and then those people should be able you know to get those people in trouble or
this that the other but when when the person who is the the victim of this you know sexual assault
complains and then is told to shut the fuck up by a bunch of people who are still around, I'm sure now,
and have received no justice at all, that's when the system completely falls apart and
someone feels completely helpless.
Well, you need to look no further than people like Meryl Streep calling Harvey a god at
the Oscars, I think it was, or the Globes, whatever, one of those, one year, which is
a message everybody was reinforcing about him, even though there were rumors about what a shitty guy he was for a long, long time, which people either had no desire to look into or just didn't want to believe, notwithstanding the proof staring them in the face.
Yeah.
I mean, again, it's the same thing as Sacha Baron Cohen.
They just want to be invited to the party.
They just want to be able to make the movie.
These people are obsessed. They need the attention. They're addicted to be invited to the party. They just want to be able to make the movie. These people are obsessed.
They need the attention.
They're addicted to this attention.
And they are willing to look past absolutely anything in order to continue to get it.
It's an addiction.
So let me ask you a question because we're sitting here and breaking news just came in across the wires as we were chatting.
It's kind of a little bit relates to the discussion we had
at the top which is you know piers morgan right of good morning britain yeah whatever happened to
him like he went well he's out now he's it it the the statement is and he's been hosting good
morning britain with his co-host susanna for a long time i was just on the show talking about
markel and harry following discussions with itv that's the network, Piers Morgan has decided now is the time to leave Good Morning Britain.
ITV has accepted this decision and has nothing further to add.
Hmm.
Hmm.
What do you think it is?
I don't know what to make of that.
What do you think it is?
Well, he's been embattled.
He's very anti-Meghan Markle, which he has been.
And look, I guess the better way of saying it is he's not drinking the Kool-Aid on her, right?
He doesn't seem like a fan.
But yesterday, he was really going off about the Oprah interview.
And I agreed with much of what he said.
I thought that I'm not a big fan of Meghan and Harry and their, their victimhood
knee jerk to everything. Like, have you ever seen such privileged people play the victim on
virtually everything? It's just, I've had it and no message of like, you know what? We had some
rough times, but we're good. We're, we're still, I'm still a Prince. I'm still a Duchess or at
least, you know, sort of at some day Archie will be a Prince. And we live in a $14 million mansion
in, you know, Montecito next to Oprah. and we just signed 150 million dollars worth of deals with netflix and spotify so we're good we're
good don't worry about us no that wasn't in there right it was like sad everyone's out to get me the
palace the press my dad okay so anyway that's so piers is kind of he he's very protective of the
queen it was sort of going off on what an insult it was and then today on the show um there was a guy who he was arguing with and the guy just kept like saying what was all
that matters is her lived experience and pierce just kept saying but but her facts were wrong
she said that archie wasn't going to be a prince because of his skin color and what the what we've
all now seen now thanks to all the press is that archie
was never going to be a prince that was an edict handed down 100 years ago until charles became
king because i don't know something about the way the rule the rules work anyway any thoughts on
piers morgan out at good morning britain um i could care less about uh british tv uh so and who's on it um also any any man that
says i'm not a megan markle person immediately anything else they ever say i don't care about
i said that i was paraphrasing for him stop it it. That's not him. Any man that has an opinion on Meghan Markle, I don't care about anything else you say ever.
What do you mean?
If Meghan Markle has got you riled up, it's just, I don't understand why people even care.
This woman, she married into the royal family.
What did she think that meant did she i mean like what does she think that you just married to the royal family and then you just
go on living your life as normal no there's going to be responsibilities and you better show up to
those responsibilities you're getting paid to do nothing so you're going to wear the stupid outfits
you're going to curtsy you're going to go to the whatever it is, not Independence Day parade, but like removing other countries Independence Day parade.
Is that what they celebrate in England?
I'm just saying like the least you can do, right, the least you can do for all the money and advantages that you get to be attached to the royal family is go through the rigmarole. That is the Royal family.
Just fucking shut up and do it.
And if you don't want to be part of it,
say you don't want to be a part of it and then shut up again.
Like it's crazy.
Leave with class,
leave with class.
Like she left,
she was a B-list actress here in the United States who we never would have
wanted to hear from.
Has she not married Harry?
Now she's getting $150 million because of that family.
Cause she married in and they accepted her.
And there's no there's no gratitude.
There's only slings and arrows and complaints.
I'm not on her side.
All are bitching and moaning about how hard she had on the royal tour when we've had a year of doctors and nurses laying their lives on the line, watching people die around them without complaint.
But she can't handle the royal tour to Australia.
Yeah, no, she sucks.
But she definitely sucks.
And, but so does,
like, I think it's beneath Americans
to care about royalty from any other country.
Like, I think it is beneath us
to give any fucks about the British royal family.
Like when I hear an American care about it,
I'm just like, come on, come on, come on, come on.
What is this?
Like lions though, you know,
aren't concerned
about the opinions of sheep. It's a sheep. You know what I mean? It's a sheep.
I hate myself for caring. Shit. I'm looking at a whole new light. Why do I care? I don't know why.
You're better than this. You're an American. Come on. We already whooped their ass.
You know what I mean? We handled that. That's years ago. Now let them go have their little fun.
We had a debate one time on NBC about whether an American should curtsy to the queen.
And I was saying, why would we?
We're not one of her subjects.
We fought a whole war to be not one of her subjects.
And of course, at NBC, it was like, oh, that's rude.
You're being rude.
I'm like, I don't think it's rude.
I'm not her subject.
Why would I?
Like, that's where I draw the line. I think it's embarrassing that Canada still has the queen on
their money. That's pathetic. It's absolutely pathetic. Like get the queen off your money.
Are you your own country or are you not? It's a very simple question you have to ask yourself.
So in the case of Canada, you know, I'm just look, there may be a little bit soft, but like, come on, stand up for yourself.
You're not part of the what do they call it?
That doesn't sound like Canada, the kingdom.
Yeah, the kingdom. That's right.
But yeah, it's just a little it's just I don't know.
It's just a little silly.
The whole royalty thing.
I don't get it.
I mean, I get maybe, you know, in the movies, it's nice to be a princess or this or the other.
But like, if I want to curtsy to the queen, then I'll curtstsy to the queen but you're not going to tell me what i have to do canadian debbie my
tap dancer producer is telling me that they have whole highways named after the queen in canada
it's like rename it rename it they have what canadian do they have to really name things after
honestly janice dean she'd be one justin bieber Justin Bieber and the first, what is that woman's name?
What is the man? I feel like a woman.
That girl, the country music star.
Oh, Shania Twain.
Shania Twain. That's a great highway.
Wayne Gretzky. You know what I mean?
Like they've got a lot of Ryan Reynolds.
Oh, Drake.
He took the highway.ke drake's canadian jim carrey
like there's a lot of people you can name highways after you don't have to name a highway after the
queen like get out of here did they build the highway did the queen build it yeah you raise
a good point i think she did actually didn't she like her people her money i don't like that counts
well if she built the highway then she gets her name on it i guess that's fair it's an homage or something well anyway maybe here in new york we'll we'll
get an andrew schultz way you know how they name streets here after somebody who did the city proud
i'll nominate you i got a lot of pull in this city they love me here yeah honestly megan that
would be pretty cool i get the whole statue thing.
You know, I get it.
But then again, maybe I'm just supposed to exist within my time.
Maybe that's my, maybe that is my destiny.
And I have to exist within my time.
Future generations don't need to know about you.
I don't know.
I don't know.
You know what?
I don't care.
I just want to, I want to ride this till the wheels fall off. And then whatever happens later, that's cool. You know what? I don't care. I just want to ride this till the wheels fall off.
And then whatever happens later, that's cool.
But like, yeah, maybe that's my role.
Maybe that's my role in the ecosystem.
I have to exist within my time and then be as impactful, but also just be a good guy
to the people that I meet.
And then, yeah, live a good life.
Be a good guy.
It's not that hard, right?
I love it.
Ride it till the wheels come off.
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