The Megyn Kelly Show - CBS and UPenn Bend the Knee to Trump, Diddy Defenders, and Charlize Theron's Vulgar Rant, with Stu Burguiere | Ep. 1101

Episode Date: July 3, 2025

Megyn Kelly is joined by Stu Burguiere, host of BlazeTV's "Stu Does America," to discuss key policy wins in Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill, including increased ICE funding, immigration reform efforts, ...and provisions aimed at protecting women’s sports, why the right instinctively wants to point out the parts of the bill they don't like, how Trump is delivering on his campaign promises about protecting women's sports, his forcing UPenn to bend the knee and apologize for Lia Thomas, the cultural backlash against biological males in women’s sports, Paramount's $16 million payout to settle Trump's lawsuit against CBS News, how legacy media abandoned journalism to oppose Trump, what this settlement and the reaction to it signals about the declining influence of left-leaning media giants, the outrage over Diddy being cleared of the most serious charges, whether he could end up making a comeback now, outrageous remarks from Joy Reid comparing Alligator Alcatraz to a "concentration camp," Elie Mystal's insane comments about Trump wanting to murder people, Charlize Theron’s vulgar comment about sleeping with a 26-year-old on "Call Her Daddy," her f-bomb rant about why she's glad she's a single mom, Megyn's theory about Theron's public persona, and more.  More from Stu Burguiere- https://www.youtube.com/StuDoesAmerica Just Thrive: Visit https://justthrivehealth.com/discount/Megyn and use code MEGYN to save 20% sitewideDone with Debt: https://www.DoneWithDebt.comTax Network USA: Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit https://TNUSA.com/MEGYN to speak with a strategist for FREE todayFollow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at: https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Channel 111 every weekday at noon East. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We are headed toward a holiday weekend. One of my favorites. You know, we do not take 4th of July lightly in the Kelly Brunt household. Not at all. As you know, we do our colonial costumes. We do a reading of the declaration. It's all happening people. It's happening. And I hope you are doing it up too
Starting point is 00:00:32 in your own way, wherever you are. We'll have a full rundown for you on Monday of how it went. The news is not slowing down in honor of the fourth. We've got huge updates today. The fallout from the Brian Kohlberger guilty plea. The judge deciding late yesterday to keep Sean Diddy Combs behind bars pending sentencing. Oh, I guess your sweet charm didn't end up working
Starting point is 00:00:58 on this particular judge, did it? He was literally making heart signs. He was making heart signs and prayer signs like, oh, thank you. Thank you. He thought he could charm the judge into letting him out of prison pending sentencing, which now happens in October. And it was a no. It was a no. All right. The judge is not fooled. The jury was fooled. The case was likely lost in jury selection, but the judge is not an idiot. And he is keeping Diddy behind bars because he is a threat.
Starting point is 00:01:28 How'd you like to be Cassandra Ventura today? Or Jane or Deontay Nash or any of the people who testified against him, which were acts of courage, not rewarded by this New York jury, a bunch of fools. I'm sorry, but the obvious evidence showed he was guilty. Okay, sorry, I'm going back over treaded ground. The House of Representatives right now on the verge of passing Trump's big, beautiful bill,
Starting point is 00:01:54 it's happening, people, it's happening. And, you know, Hakeem Jeffries can bloviate as long as he wants at the lectern, it's happening. You're really just delaying the inevitable. What was it? I sent this to my producers. It was a good quote. Stand by.
Starting point is 00:02:09 It was from Hugh Hewitt. He wrote, have you ever, ever seen a losing team hang around the field this long? Dems don't understand they are conducting an hours long surrender ceremony. That's exactly right, Hugh. Exactly right. So great. Keep calling attention to the BBB
Starting point is 00:02:26 as it barrels toward passage. What are we gonna remember? That you talked a lot? Okay, Hakeem Jeffries is now reading stories of people who are on Medicaid like, oh, not me, not me. The only people who are going to get, who are gonna lose their Medicaid
Starting point is 00:02:41 are people who are gaming the system, able-bodied young men who can get jobs who now they just want you to work. I think it's like 80 hours a month. Could you just like do a month? Most people would do that in two weeks. Get a part time job is what they're saying. Don't just sit there and be a freeloader when you're an able bodied young man.
Starting point is 00:03:01 And we're supposed to cry tears for them. Well, most of us won't. Trump celebrating this on true social writing quote, what a great night it was. One of the most consequential bills ever. The USA is the hottest country in the world by far. We've talked about this, Trump's election was making America hot again.
Starting point is 00:03:20 People are trying. I'm sorry, but if you see somebody out there with the blue hair and like 200 extra pounds and one of those blue bracelets, you know damn well it's a Democrat. You just do. Team MAGA cares. They care about themselves.
Starting point is 00:03:35 They care about the country. They're pulled together. Doesn't mean there's no one with a few extra pounds. Just in general, they pull themselves together. That's my observation, having met thousands upon thousands of them. It's all happening just in time for the nation's birthday, a signing ceremony scheduled for tomorrow at the White House.
Starting point is 00:03:54 And it looks like Trump is actually going to get his wish. This was his self-imposed deadline, didn't have to happen by tomorrow, but it looks like it's going to. All that plus the Supreme Court announcing that it will decide whether states can bar trans athletes from girls sports. Some lower courts had struck down bans in states like West Virginia saying they're inappropriate. And now it's a very good sign that the Supreme Court said, we're going to take those cases
Starting point is 00:04:23 up here. We will have the final say. This is a great time for this to go up to the high court, you guys, while we have it six, three, conservatives too, the far left, three liberal justices. So God bless them. Take it. That'll be a huge case next term.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Alliance Defending Freedom, a wonderful organization, was celebrating the decision to take the case this morning on X. And then there's Charlize Theron Who's making headlines for talking about her sex life in incredibly crude terms? And I would suggest to you Possibly untrue and I'll get into why all that plus Michelle Obama is now hawking a new sports drink I was like are they behind in their mortgage payments on the Martha's Vineyard
Starting point is 00:05:06 Mansion? Michelle Obama's now got to be a juice spokesperson? What's happening? Here to react to all of this is Stu Bergier. He's hosting Blaze TV's Stu Does America. Remember when you were a kid with an iron stomach? Pizza, ice cream, hot wings, nothing fazed you. But these days if you're like most people you feel like your stomach can be a bear trap. One wrong bite and you're done. Here's the thing, years ago our ancestors ate lots of bitter plants daily and they made their digestion work even as they got older. But our modern diet has completely eliminated these essential compounds.
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Starting point is 00:06:39 Thanks, same to you, Megan, appreciate it. Yeah, so do you have big plans for the fourth? Not so much. I'm gonna be hanging around with the kids. We've got a party we're gonna go to. We do not do it the Megan way, I will say. Few do. Few do, and your parties, your get togethers
Starting point is 00:06:57 are legendary around July 4th, of course, with your great American Philadelphia Eagle fan husband doing all the really American things. So we don't do it up that much, but it's gonna be a great time with the kids and the family. Awesome. That's the way to do it. I mean, I just go over the top because it's fun
Starting point is 00:07:15 and we can, and it's a great excuse to get family and friends together and celebrate something we all love, America. But this year, we're not gonna be able to have the marching band, sadly. We did have a marching band for the past two years, but our band is in Europe. So unfortunately, our Independence Day US band
Starting point is 00:07:30 has decided to go tour Europe, which is cool for these young kids. So we support them. They're back, they're coming back next year for the 250th. Or I'll just create my own band, which Abigail Feinand can make happen, trust me. Okay, moving on. The BBB is going through still.
Starting point is 00:07:45 I don't think there was ever any doubt amongst those of us watching this play out. We never got too neck deep in it because I just never do. Are these things always work out? This one was gonna work out. As Mark Halpern said early on, it's gonna work out because it has to work out for President Trump. It's his entire first term agenda in there.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And they're about to pass this thing, which is truly historic. Let me just give you a couple of the things from here's a Bill Mollugin text, I mean, post on X from today. If this thing passes, let's just look alone at immigration. ICE will be supercharged on a massive scale. 45 billion to more than double ICE detention capacity to roughly 100,000 beds. 14 billion for transport and removal.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Think about that. This is what Tom Homan has been begging for. Eight billion to hire 10,000 additional ICE personnel more than doubling the current 5,000 deportation officers. 1.3 billion for additional attorneys and support staff for ICE. 858 million for signing and retention bonuses for these folks.
Starting point is 00:08:57 There's more, 650 million for local ICE cooperation, 600 million for recruitment, hiring and onboarding at ICE, 200 million for fleet modernization, 20 million to detain aliens with their children. Acting ICE director telling him this funding would be a game changer for the agency. This, as the kids say on X, is what I voted for. Your thoughts?
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah, I totally agree, particularly on that section. There's a lot of really positive things going on with immigration reform and honestly protections for our country. These are national security issues and they are being addressed in a big way. And we really haven't put a lot of resources toward this in the past. So seeing a massive growth like this, I think is really, really impactful. I mean, I think a lot of times we're just sort of, I don't know, maybe Megan,
Starting point is 00:09:50 on the conservative side, we get a little negative. Sometimes we kind of look at these things and only see the parts of the bill that we don't like. And look, there are some things in the bill that I don't like. There are some spending issues. There's a couple of programs in there that do concern me long- term that are part of this
Starting point is 00:10:05 bill. But there, as you pointed out, this was going to happen. They absolutely had to use the reconciliation opportunity in some way. It had to address the tax cuts. This was going to get there eventually. It winds up being a little bigger than I think even Trump wants it to be. Because when you have people who hold out, there's really two ways of addressing that. And one is bribing them with different things that they want for their states.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Lisa Murkowski was the beneficiary of some of that in the Senate. And then the other side of that is, you know, Trump kind of comes in and says, do it. And generally speaking with Republicans, they kind of fall in line. That happened last night, three o'clock in the morning. We had a lot of these sort of hardline Republicans who, you know, I agree with them a lot of some of these fiscal issues that they're bringing up. But eventually they kind of came into line when Trump and Johnson came to them and said, this needs to be done. It will get done. It will get done by my deadline. My deadline was July 4th of the entire time. When Trump says that to Republicans, generally speaking, he gets what he wants. And I think
Starting point is 00:11:10 what we get out of this bill is a lot of really good things, some things that maybe aren't as good. But that is the situation when you have a thousand page bill. It's just kind of it's part of the recipe and you're going to have to deal with it. But I do think we'd get a lot of positives out of this I mean, there are so many wins going on the board right now just today was it was posted on US open Intel Iran has said they will not retaliate further for the strikes against their nuclear program So that whole World War three thing that's done
Starting point is 00:11:42 Not only did Trump not start a war with Iran by dropping the bombs on their nuclear programs, he appears to have ended one. The list is very long, but just the ones that just happened in the past 24 hours. So we're going to get the big, beautiful bill. We're going to get all this border enforcement. We're going to get the extension of all the Trump tax cuts, which is sad in a way because he won't get credit for it. He, people would have felt the pain if this thing hadn't gone through. All of your taxes would have gone up. Everybody's taxes were about to go up significantly.
Starting point is 00:12:12 What Trump did was fight to keep them as low as he made them during his first term. And that's great, but you should remember that. Remember that you did not suffer a multi-thousand dollar or more tax hike because Trump strong-armed this through. And then in the same 24 hours, you see the University of Pennsylvania announce it will no longer allow men to participate in women's sports.
Starting point is 00:12:39 And it's been brought to heel by Lyndon McMahon, who runs Trump's Department of Education, saying you violated Title IX, you violated the Trump's Department of Education, saying, you violated Title IX, you violated the rights of those young women, and now you will be posting all over your website and elsewhere how sorry you are. I want individualized letters of apology to the women you hurt, which is unbelievable. And you will strip the male athletes, hello, Leah Thomas, of their fraudulently obtained medals and titles, which will now be restored
Starting point is 00:13:11 to their rightful female winners. So Leah Thomas, who is a man pretending to be a woman, will no longer be the person who won, for example, the women's 500 at the NCAA championship. The rightful winner of that will now be restored. Riley Gaines, who tied Leah Thomas for fifth, and I think it was the 200, will now herself have, I think, the fourth place. I don't know, I have to do my math, but she doesn't have to share her title with anybody now, thanks to this. I don't know how to do my math, but she doesn't have to share her title with anybody now, thanks to this.
Starting point is 00:13:46 And no comment yet from Leah Thomas, but here's Riley Gaines reacting to that on Fox News yesterday. I feel vindicated. I feel like pigs are flying. I feel like hell has frozen over. So it is a fantastic day, of course, for sanity, for common sense. But I think more broadly for women, for humanity, for the little girl that I'm growing inside of me right now that I will welcome to the world in just a few weeks.
Starting point is 00:14:12 I think of her. I think of her future. That is what Donald Trump and of course, Secretary McMahon and myself, that is what we are fighting for. So very, very excited about today's news. Awesome. And then I'll just give you one more. So Riley didn't go to UPenn.
Starting point is 00:14:28 She swam against Leah, AKA Will, who was at UPenn. But Paula Scanlon did go to UPenn. And Paula Scanlon did have to share a locker room over and over and over with Leah, who the year before had been Will and swimming as a man. And she went on with Link Lauren, our own Link Lauren here on the MK Media Network, and had a couple things to say about this.
Starting point is 00:14:55 First of all, she talks about how this is just a first step, SOC 20. I think a lot of reform needs to be made, but I will say, I don't believe this. I know you don't believe this, but many people put the Ivy League institutions up on a pedestal. They think there are these amazing institutions. They look to them very highly. And I think there is a lot of value in the University of Pennsylvania and being one of those schools making this decision because it will, other people, other schools will say, hmm, if an Ivy League institution has to do this, maybe they're onto something and
Starting point is 00:15:23 it will make them also change their ways. So even though I don't value them that way They still are valued in the general public and I do think overall this is a huge win but it's only a first step and Just one additional bit of color from her on when she was forced to interact with will now Leah Pranced into her locker room with the coach when he was doing a big announcement on somebody new who was joining the team. Listen here to Paula Scanlon. It's got 21. I was a sophomore. It was 2019. I was a sophomore. I was 19 years old. Our coach called a mandatory team meeting and he invited a member of the men's team to lead this women's team meeting.
Starting point is 00:16:03 And so at the time going by William, William Thomas stood before the entire women's team and said, Hey guys, just really quickly wanted to let you know, I now identify as a woman. Please refer to me now with she her pronouns. I'll be joining your team next season and stay tuned guys. I'm still picking my new name. So just keep posted on that. There was something on the NCAA website called the Transgender Inclusion Handbook that said if you are a man competing on any women's sports team, that you can identify as a woman and within one year of taking to SOS your own suppressant, whatever that even is, you can join any women's sports team that you want to across D1, D2, D3.
Starting point is 00:16:41 And the handbook was full of pictures of quite literally men wearing dresses playing women's sports saying that they're so happy. That was their evidence to why it was a good policy. Yes, this is 100% what I voted for. Cracking down on the border, deporting dangerous illegals, restoring sanity in women's sports. Every day is Christmas with President Trump in the Oval Office. I'm sorry, this is exactly what I voted for. It's exactly what I told my fellow Americans they would get
Starting point is 00:17:11 if they would believe in Trump, even if they were skeptical. It is why I said he'd be a protector of women and everyone, and remember our Forgotten Boys too. He's doing it, Stu. He gets no credit from the left, none whatsoever, but he is fulfilling every campaign promise. Yeah, and you know, it's not just what you voted for, Megan.
Starting point is 00:17:31 It's a good chunk of why he's currently president of the United States. It's why a lot of people voted for him. A lot of people who voted for Joe Biden previously crossed the line and decided to vote for him this time because of issues like this. I mean, they saw a dude, you know standing on the on the Podium ahead of other women and said this is wrong. This is crazy. We all know that this is wrong
Starting point is 00:17:56 You know that they make this claim over and over again. There's no scientific evidence that shows that We know women are not able to compete at these levels with men. Look at this picture. That's him. Obviously, you know which one is him. Who wants to stare at this guy's naked ass two inches away from the actual women, parading it around? I feel strongly, it's my opinion, that this guy is an autogynophile, meaning a man who gets sexually aroused from dressing like a woman. And this university forced all these women, in my opinion, to participate in Will Thomas's sexual fetish. It was an abomination. And when they spoke up, people like Paula Scanlon behind the scenes, not even going public, just saying to the university, I feel uncomfortable. They told the women to get therapy.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Let me just tell you something, Stu. We've gone from, I mean, I remember the days reporting on this show, it was two studios ago, about what was happening with Leah Thomas and what was happening at UPenn and the goddamn, sorry, the damned therapy that they told the women to get. And no one was speaking out at that time. They were too scared. And then one by one out at that time. They were too scared.
Starting point is 00:19:05 And then one by one, they started to. Paula Scanlon came out. She was one of the first. Riley Gaines hadn't even spoken out. Riley at the beginning wasn't speaking out about it. We didn't know her name. We knew she had died. That was it.
Starting point is 00:19:18 And finally she found her voice and now she's become a national championship, really champion, the face really of this movement because she's been totally courageous. Look how far we've come because women did find their voices. And I have to say those women and many others got to President Trump, made him listen, explain to him that a woman cannot become a man and that it's not kind to pretend otherwise. And he came fully on board our team and now is fixing it.
Starting point is 00:19:46 University by university, institution by institution, he's fixing it. The University of Pennsylvania did not want to bend the knee, but he made them, Stu. Yeah, you're totally right. I think that's amazing, because I almost had forgotten that was kind of Trump's initial position was
Starting point is 00:20:05 sort of a live and let live. Let's not get involved in any of this. And it shows that he will consider people see him as this rigid character that never will think about anybody else's opinion. Obviously not true. This is a good example of it. And he has become an incredible advocate for this. He's correcting these obvious wrongs. And it's, it's been pretty impressive. And I will say, you know, it goes, you bring up maybe his sexual proclivities, whatever they may be. It's a fascinating thing to highlight in the supposed me too era, right? That these,
Starting point is 00:20:42 these college girls were forced to be in a changing room with these, in a locker room, changing in front of some guy who God only knows what his motivation was to be there. It's revolting. Everyone knows that we were kicking people out of their jobs for making off-color jokes for several years. And we're expecting college girls, people's daughters, to be in these rooms with men that are naked, that they don't want to be near. I mean, it's so obvious. And I think that's one of the things that
Starting point is 00:21:16 makes this such a powerful issue for people. It is one of those things that all they have to do. We can explain. I can give you the Journal of Applied Physiology, the science that does show that yes, men have an advantage over women in women's sports. We can go through that data. Nobody needs it. Nobody needs it.
Starting point is 00:21:33 The reason why there aren't tons of scientific studies on this is because everybody in the world has eyes. Eyes. And the people that can see them. Secret weapons. Yes, there's secret weapons to discover these things. And when they see that picture, that very uncomfortable picture that I hope you don't show again, of Leah Thomas, or Will Thomas, they see that and that's enough. And when someone comes to them and demands that you did it, you
Starting point is 00:21:57 showed the picture, I came to you, I'm very angry, very angry at you and your entire staff. When people see that photo, they, and then someone, then the second part of this is important. When someone comes to them and says, they're wrong for what they saw, that they, the thing that they have known and every human being has known since the beginning of time is wrong.
Starting point is 00:22:21 And you're a hateful person and a bad person for saying that, it turns them on the entire movement. It turns them on, wait a minute, if you're telling me that's wrong, what else are you lying about? And that was a major, major point. I mean, you look through all these biographies, I know you talked to Jake Tapper,
Starting point is 00:22:40 excuse me, the stories about the election, I know you talked to Jake Tapper about his, there's been several all of them show The major effect that came from that one Trump ad which was you know, Kamala Harris is for they them Trump is for you That ad was a turning point in this campaign. It is central It is a really really important issue because it not only is great for women for people like Riley Gaines for my daughter Who is in gymnastics like it's a really great for women, for people like Riley Gaines, for my daughter who is in gymnastics, like it's really important for all of them.
Starting point is 00:23:09 It also tells the entire story. And people saw that and were able to summarize it easily and it made a massive difference. It's happening. Trump made you pen bend the knee by sticking Linda McMahon on them, noting that this is a violation of girls' rights under Title IX.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Trump issued the executive order, restoring sanity to Title IX and making clear what it stands for. The US Supreme Court taking up the lower courts, striking down of bans on allowing this in state after state, they're ready. They're gonna do the right thing. I guarantee it.
Starting point is 00:23:45 I just, I guess I shouldn't say guarantee, but I feel very strongly that this US Supreme Court is gonna do the right thing and say that states absolutely have the right to ban this and sanity will be restored there. And so bit by bit, it's happening. On top of all that, and if there's a lot, look, the fight's not over.
Starting point is 00:24:04 There's a USA cyclist man who just stole a woman's title in the national championship yesterday. So it's not over. But that's outside of the college context. Look at him. Look at him, Stan. You know which one he is. The woman who actually won, who came in second,
Starting point is 00:24:20 but she's the actual winner, she said, I'm not getting on the damn podium. I know. So that's why there's not two people over on the one side because the second place finisher, who's really the winner, said, I'm not showing up. This is bullshit. And by the way, she said,
Starting point is 00:24:34 I wish somebody had told me there was gonna be a man competing before I spent thousands of dollars on plane tickets to fly cross country, to get there, to do training. Just tell me, tell me if I'm gonna have to compete against somebody against, obviously I can't win, right? Like this is a waste of my time, my efforts. So there's work to be done.
Starting point is 00:24:50 But there's so many positive things happening all around Trump and the Trump presidency. I mean, we could really spend every day, all day on them. Another one is the crushing blows he's dealing to the media. Okay, so there's a couple of headlines there. Number one, CBS News just waved the white flag in that litigation he filed against them,
Starting point is 00:25:14 which honestly was like such a stretch for, I mean, I'm not defending what CBS did at all with that Kamala Harris interview, but to turn it into a multi-billion dollar claim as Trump did down in Texas in some violation of like the fair marketing principles, I can't remember, but it was a stretch. He basically won.
Starting point is 00:25:35 They just settled the case for $16 million. And according to Fox News, there's an additional eight figure payout coming by CBS in the form of advertisements and possibly PSAs, public service announcements, to promote conservative causes. Now, a paramount or CBS spokesperson has said that's not necessarily right, but I think that reporting was matched by another news outlet today that it is right. And even without that, the $16 million settlement, which is going to go to the Trump library, it's going to be the nicest library ever, is monumental.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I mean, it's momentous that he brought ABC News to heel after George Stephanopoulos' defamation of Trump. And now he has CBS News out there paying him 16 million for what was clearly a report that was manipulated in order to influence an election. No one can tell me different. Yeah, this one's pretty shocking to me, honestly. You know, I was nervous about whether we would just lose
Starting point is 00:26:43 our sense of figuring out whether boys were boys and girls were girls I was a part of me at the time that was like gosh Are we really gonna go down this road? But I'm not shocked that we eventually came to our senses on that one and are coming to our senses on it I am pretty surprised that he keeps getting these major media institutions to To go along with them on this and given these large payments. Mostly because I mean, these are basically ideological organizations at this point, and they are designed to serve an audience. Most of that audience cannot stand that they're doing this,
Starting point is 00:27:19 right? Like they are angry. The left-wing audience that actually takes in the trash these networks are putting out on a day-to-day basis are very angry about this. And it shows, like he really has put them in a very difficult position. I think it's important that we have, first of all, it is hilarious to see them squirm. I mean, it's amazing.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I have no low expectation of what Donald Trump is able to accomplish when he decides to say, you're doing this. Like that is, we've been seeing this for a long time. He has a lot of power and he will wield it. I am surprised though that these media organizations are going along and settling these claims. I know a lot of them have business that they have other interests and they're they're folding towards them. And of course, Trump knows this. He knows the leverage game better than probably anybody on the entire planet. So he's really, really good at this. I think we want to we want a free media in this country. And I don't mind having media sources
Starting point is 00:28:21 that are left leaning. I work for one that is right leaning, and I don't want them to go away. I don't want to get sued by the president every single time I make a statement they don't agree with. That's not what Trump's doing here, but I don't want it to get out of control on that. We do have to have a free media in this country,
Starting point is 00:28:36 and I think that is important to protect. But this should at least send a message to these institutions and these media companies to just try. know, try. I feel like most of my life, I had an impression of the media that it was left leaning, but they, and they had their agenda, but at least they wanted to make you believe
Starting point is 00:28:58 they were attempting journalism. Like, and it's a low hurdle to clear. And I thought they were at least trying to clear that. Something happened. I think it was pretty much I would say it happened during the Trump era. It's essentially TDS, Trump derangement syndrome, where they stopped trying. They started saying, you know what, this is too important. We can't do journalism anymore. What if people believe, you know, the the right spin on this, they might put Trump in office and then the entire country will collapse and World War III will occur and cats and dogs will live together and all the things. And at the end of the day, they sold their soul to oppose this man. That is
Starting point is 00:29:40 never a good idea. And hopefully these outcomes are at least having them reconsider it a little bit. That's why I'm in favor of it. I like the edit was definitely an unfair and unethical manipulation. I believe that. Look, they did it to help her. They released a tease, a preview, SOT sound on tape. That's what SOT stands for.
Starting point is 00:30:03 The day before, and it showed her typical word salad response to Netanyahu's not listening. It was word salad, classic Kamala Harris. And then by the time they got to the actual airing of the 60 minutes broadcast the next night, it was cleaner and more concise, still empty headed, but much better than the tease clip had reflected. There is no question somebody realized the first clip
Starting point is 00:30:30 was not coherent and they wanted to make her sound better. And possibly I'll give them one 10% chance of just giving the user a more pleasant experience while listening to a Q&A between an anchor and a subject. However, you can't do that when you're talking about a presidential candidate. It's important if she can't answer the question. It's important if she goes to the word salad,
Starting point is 00:30:54 empty headed answer. And so you can't just prize user experience over being honest in your exchange, right? You can't just clean up. It's not a benign thing where like, I'm interviewing a boy scout about how he got this merit badge and you clean it up here or there
Starting point is 00:31:10 so that everyone looks better and has a better experience. No, this is the presidential candidate. She was running for the most important job in America. And 100% everyone at CBS News wanted her to win. And everyone working on 60 Minutes from the executive producer on down. And that is very clearly not only why they did that edit, but why they've done the string of hit pieces on Trump and on his administration and on his policies and why they're celebrating
Starting point is 00:31:40 places like Germany that are arresting people for having wrong think in their heads and in their tweets. 60 minutes has lost its way. The rudder, it has lost, someone's lost control of it. It's gone, it used to pull to the left, now it's gone far left. And so this is why I'm thrilled to see them punished. I'm thrilled to see them actually recognize you have real skin in the game and it could get worse for you. Of course, the reason they settled it
Starting point is 00:32:11 is because they're trying to sell Paramount to Skydance and this merger, Paramount owns CBS for $8 billion and they need the Trump administration's regulatory approval. So 16 million or 30 million, whatever it is, it was the Wall Street Journal who matched the Fox News reporter on the PSAs and the ads, but didn't match the $30 million number.
Starting point is 00:32:31 But in any event, whatever the number is, it's a small price to pay in their minds to get their $8 billion merger through, but reportedly everybody within CBS is absolutely outraged. The only thing they're holding onto is that they didn't apologize to the president. You should be thinking about the lesson here. You should be thinking about why he targeted you
Starting point is 00:32:52 and not NBC and not CNN and not even MSNBC yet. Why did he target CBS? Because they've got this premier broadcast that literally millions of Americans do still trust and over and over and over again, it has tried to take down the Trump presidency or candidacy. Yeah, no, that's very true.
Starting point is 00:33:20 That has been their goal. I remember when this was all happening and I became aware of this controversy of this edit, I was like, I got to see this clip. I got to see this clip and I watched the clip and it was, it was legitimately terrible. And I said, my producer, okay, now I got to see the post edit clip. And they said, that was the post edit clip. That was actually after it had been cleaned up.
Starting point is 00:33:41 It was still a catastrophe, but it was much less a catastrophe. You know, I mean, the media has lost a lot of influence. You know, we were talking about this a few weeks ago when, and I don't even know, you may not even know this. I don't know, Megan, if you've covered it or not, but there's a new anchor of NBC Nightly News that was named. And this is, I don't know, Tom Yamas, I think is his name.
Starting point is 00:34:06 I did not know about it. I knew Lester was leaving. I didn't know Tom was taking over. Yeah, Tom is taking over and I don't know anything about Tom, but that's it. Right, like I feel like, you know, 10, 15 years ago, Megan, that would have been a story. Maybe you might have led with, right?
Starting point is 00:34:22 There's a new anchor, NBC Nightly News. Who is this guy? This is a big deal. Nobody even knew what happened. And that is a massive, massive change for the better in this country. And you think about it too. It's the media is at fault. And you know, the universities, the elite universities are at fault. But we have to also focus on the fact that the left is really, really central to this
Starting point is 00:34:46 generally. I mean, like, you know, pens for their way of going back to that story pens excuse for what for what it was, was basically like, well, we followed the rules at the time, this is what they told us we were supposed to do. And like, part of that's a cop out, like they should stand up for the basic truths of human anatomy. They should respect their students, all of that's a cop out like they should stand up for the basic truths of human anatomy. They should respect their students, all of that. They didn't they did a terrible job and deserve everything they're getting. But also the fact that like this was what was expected out of these universities is significant. I mean, this was being jammed down by the highest levels throughout our university system. The same thing we find with the Twitter files
Starting point is 00:35:24 and all of the other things. It was thing we find with the Twitter files and all of the other things, it was being jammed through the media as well and social media and tech companies. Like these politicians, Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, all these people, at least the ones that were aware of who they were at the time they were in the White House, were doing this intentionally
Starting point is 00:35:41 to try to essentially take over all of these institutions and force their agenda down the throats of the American people. The American people, uh, and along with Donald Trump said, no, Nope, we're not letting this happen. They stood up, they stood up against the media. They stood up against these universities. Donald Trump was elected and he's making a massive difference in ways here that are really, really important. Yeah. And, and you're right about the NBC thing.
Starting point is 00:36:07 You can see the waning influence in so many different ways. I mean, no one's talking about, did you see what Anderson Cooper led with last night? Nobody. Literally, nobody. Not even Anderson Cooper's fans. There was an article out today on the ratings. My God, hold on, I'll find it. It's a bloodbath over on MSNBC and CNN, okay?
Starting point is 00:36:28 It's a bloodbath. MSNBC, now the numbers are out on the latest Nielsen data reported by Adweek. Now averaging between April and June, okay, so that's a quarter, one million in the prime time for its best shows. One million. All right, when I was at Fox,
Starting point is 00:36:49 we were doing like three million in change on the Kelly file. And then on the big news nights, you could add a couple of extra million to that. Like one million? That's what I used to get on America's Newsroom with Hemmer in 2007 at 9 a.m., we'd get like 1.3 million on that show in the overall. And then we get like 300 or 400,000 in the key demo at 9 a.m.
Starting point is 00:37:12 9 a.m. on a show we launched that actually was doing very well and had gone up from what had been in the time slot before us. Okay. But now they're getting a million in the prime time. Prime time. Any show on the Fox News prime time that would, even today especially, because now, you know, it's inflated under Trump at Fox,
Starting point is 00:37:31 that was getting a million in the prime time, you'd get fired. The anchor would get fired. Okay, and in the key demo of 25 to 54, MSNBC is averaging under 100,000. 91,000, Stu. That's what their prime time, the biggest ratings getters on the network
Starting point is 00:37:53 are averaging on MSNBC fall from year over year of 15% in the overall and 20% in the demo, which is kind of interesting. I thought I would have thought it would have been a bigger fall given that this time last year was the lead up to the election. All right, I'm not done. Even worse is in the day on MSNBC,
Starting point is 00:38:14 total viewership plummeting 26%, an average during the day of 596,000. So under 600,000 viewers on your average MSNBC daily show and 57,000 in the key demo. Under 50,000 is slashies. They don't even give you the number. You don't know what you got under 50,000. You just know you got slashies,
Starting point is 00:38:35 which means you are a loser. That's really what that means. Double L for loser. So they're getting 600,000 in the daytime and 57,000 in the demo. That's a nightmare. Let me do CNN. They're in last place.
Starting point is 00:38:52 They're lower than MSNBC. How can you go lower? So I'm ripping on MSNBC for having a million, averaging in the prime time. Guess what CNN's average is in the prime time? 538,000 in the overall. In the total viewers, under 540,000 people. This is CNN.
Starting point is 00:39:15 It's the face of the airport TV. Everybody knows CNN. No one wants to buy the product. In the demo, 105,000 in the primetime. They're averaging 105,000. So on MSNBC it's 91,000. So CNN is a little over MS in the demo, but last in the overall.
Starting point is 00:39:35 That's humiliating. And that's a 15% drop in the demo and 13% drop in the overall in, let's see, CNN dropped it during the day, they're averaging 400,000 and 71,000 in the key demo. And CNN, when asked about this by the New York Post, who loves to do rating stories, it's kind of funny. They go to them for a comment and they say,
Starting point is 00:39:58 "'June was the highest month of 2025 "'for CNN television in the U.S.' Okay, that's not helpful to you, okay? Then they say, stories like these are an outdated view of the media landscape and do not reflect how audiences today actually consume news. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Because how audiences consume news today is from Stubergear and Glenn Beck and Megan Kelly and Tucker Carlson and all sorts of people in the digital lane. That's where Americans are getting their news, not from outdated dinosaurs like CNN. Yeah, that's so true. And those numbers, it's hard to describe to maybe somebody who's not in television how catastrophic those numbers are. to maybe somebody who's not in television, how catastrophic those numbers are. My first job in television was with Glenn Beck. We worked at CNN headline news. They didn't even put us on the regular CNN. We were on like the stepsister. And even there, we were beating those numbers you're describing. That's unbelievable. That should not be happening. And of course, part of it is like,
Starting point is 00:41:03 you know, you've had, you know, incredible run here. I've seen your podcast rankings, Megan, like, you know, there's a lot, there is a different way that people consume media these days. That's certainly part of that. But like, there's also a part of it that goes back to what you were talking about earlier, which is the winning, right?
Starting point is 00:41:20 Like I'm a big consumer of sports content. I love my sports. When my team loses, it sucks to listen to the podcast that next day. When there's bad news, when there's a terrible injury, when you know your team is just rudderless and you've got three rebuilding years ahead of you, it kind of sucks and you kind of avoid it
Starting point is 00:41:39 and you listen less and you deal with it less. I think that's where a lot of the people on the left are right now. You know, I think they're looking at this and they're like, everything I'm tuning into is more and more bad news. And I don't want to live in that world. I think it's why they get excited. When like Zoran Mamdani wins a Democratic primary in New York, hey, it's some good news. Some people saying some socialist stuff has some actual
Starting point is 00:42:04 positive things to say for once. It's really a collapse of everything that they've believed in. And I think there's this tendency on the left and it somewhat exists on the right, but I think it's more prevalent on the left, that when you lose, you don't examine, you don't think about God, what did we do wrong?
Starting point is 00:42:19 Like, what are the things that we did wrong? How do we improve this next time? It's instead this like doubling down and incentivizing the worst voices of that side. It's why you see a rise of someone like Jasmine Crockett right now, who is obviously a dunce in every way possible. And it can't possibly be the face of your movement
Starting point is 00:42:36 if you're gonna be a success, but she's getting embraced by the left right now. She's being promoted. Mom Donnie's another example. The AOCs of the world getting these huge crowds as they go across the country. It is further incentivizing them to double, triple, quadruple down on the same policies that got them in this trouble. And Republicans are famous for screwing opportunities like this up. Donald Trump I think is doing everything he can to make sure that is not going to happen this time. I don't
Starting point is 00:43:03 want to take anything for granted, but this is an incredible opportunity for conservatives, for people who believe in fundamental principles, constitutional values to make real gains. We're seeing it in the courts. We've seen it in politics recently. There's much more to do, but I think we're going in the right direction and there's some reason for optimism. But I'll tell you something. The Democrats were depressed when George W. Bush won and then won reelection. They were very depressed after Trump won first time. And they still tuned in to MSNBC and CNN. And they were depressed, the Fox News viewers were depressed.
Starting point is 00:43:44 When Barack Obama won twice, trust me, I was there. They were very depressed, but they tuned in. There were like maybe a couple of months where they tuned out and said, I can't, it's too stomach turning. And then they always came back and not just on Fox, they came back to the other networks too when they suffered losses.
Starting point is 00:44:01 The reason there's been no rebound, and in fact, it continues to go downhill for places like MS and CNN, even though they're already at an 11 on their TDS. Hitler, Hitler, you know, whatever. Joy Reads independent now, but she's out there saying these are like Holocaust cages down at the alligator Alcatraz for brown people. I mean, she's a crazy lady, and she was the face of their network for many, many years. The reason the numbers are still low, even though they're sounding the alarm
Starting point is 00:44:30 and they're doing all the stuff that you do when you're in the opposition over there, is their model is dead. They may or may not realize it's dead. That people are not consuming news. That the only thing that the CNN said that was right is that these reflect, these stories are dependent on an outdated way
Starting point is 00:44:49 of looking at media. True, but not in the way they're complaining about. People are not turning to the traditional sources of media in the way they used to at all. Right now, Fox News has had a resurgence because the Trump faithful feel as I do, that every day is Christmas and they can't get enough of the news.
Starting point is 00:45:06 But mark my words, Fox will go down too as soon as Trump leaves office. And CNN and MSNBC are not salvageable. They have totally sold out on the TDS. CNN used to be able at least to claim it was down the middle. It can't anymore. It abandoned the project of trying to make itself so. They have absolutely no dynamic personalities over there. There's no star that makes you want to tune in because they're really super interesting and you're
Starting point is 00:45:27 going to hear something you don't hear anyplace else. You just see a bunch of Trump haters day in day out. It's a boring stuff. Yeah, it is. It's boring. We've seen the movie before, right? Like we've seen this before, you know, they get more and more excited and more and more angry. And the warnings escalate. It's essentially their same approach that they tried with global warming, right? Where every single time it was going to be worse and you were going to die sooner and it was going to be more painful of death from the sun. All of these things happen and it just stops working on people, right?
Starting point is 00:46:00 After a while. And in Greta Thunberg's case, when it didn't work, when we lived, and the globe actually didn't turn into one big puddle of water, she switched to Palestine. Right, right. It's not the sun that's gonna kill you, it's the Jews, the Jews will get you. That's where she went. And at some point, human beings are like,
Starting point is 00:46:18 wait a minute, you've been telling me this for a while. It is the boy who cried wolf story. It's a story that's hung around for a very long time because it's got a reason. Donald Trump is not Hitler. It's this is an idiotic thing to say. And it goes back to that self-examination point. How they don't get that this is not going to work is shocking to me. Shocking. How can it be that your approach after losing this election is to go back to say he's even a worse Hitler. How could like just from a strategic perspective, there has to be somebody you think on the left that is saying guys, anything but this.
Starting point is 00:46:54 We've tried this. We tried it the entire time. We had an old white guy say it and a younger black woman say it and nobody cares. Nobody believes it. He's already been president. They went through a term. They might not have even liked it, but they all know he's not Hitler. They all know he's not actually feeding
Starting point is 00:47:15 illegal immigrants to alligators. They understand this. And if you're going to try, he's just a bro. We've had strength restored for America on the national stage, the international stage. You're not embarrassed of your president anymore because you know he's over there in depends and God only knows what else just to get him into the meeting where somebody else is going to have to take over if he doesn't have his trusty teleprompter.
Starting point is 00:47:40 This president is strong. He means business. He's smart. He's savvy and He's savvy. And he's getting real results. Look what happened at NATO. President Biden, he was so obsessed with NATO that one of his top aides said to an author
Starting point is 00:47:55 writing one of those Joe Biden books, he thought he was president of NATO. Joe Biden thought he was president of NATO. It was both because he was, you know, having delusions and was suffering dementia, and because he was president of NATO. It was both because he was, you know, having delusions and was suffering dementia and because he was obsessed with NATO and how strong NATO needed him.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Did he get NATO countries to commit to spending 5% of their GDP on self-defense and military shoring up? No, he didn't. This president did because it is peace through strength. He gets no credit for it. I wanted to go back as we finish off the hour to the story about the trans cyclist
Starting point is 00:48:28 because you're right, we're done. We're done pretending that the media is honest, pretending that Hitler and Trump have something in common as the CNN and MSNBC wanna tell us. We are done pretending that illegal immigration, allowing it and ignoring the problems is kind, and we're definitely done with pretending men are women. This person who stole the medal is named Phillips.
Starting point is 00:48:54 The last name is Phillips. I think it's Kate Phillips. And he says this, what we need, there's a faction out there, he says, it just can't stand seeing change. Now the focus is on the trans and non-gender conformity. And he says, what we need is more women. That's what's better for all sports,
Starting point is 00:49:14 including women, trans, femme, and non-binary. What we need is more femme and non-binary and trans in women's sports. And you look at this and you almost have to laugh. Like sir, we're no longer listening to you lunatics. Okay? You stole this medal. You didn't belong.
Starting point is 00:49:37 And we know that you are not the rightful winner, KJ, Kate KJ Phillips. In fact, the rightful winner was Julie Peterson. She's who won gold. She's who refused to take the podium. She's our champion today. Stu, stand by. More right after this. It wasn't supposed to get this bad. You know, remember the time when you actually
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Starting point is 00:50:44 It's free. Visit done with debt.com done with debt.com done with debt.com. Stu, you may have heard that Sean Diddy Combs was acquitted of the most serious charges against him. He was found guilty of transportation to engage in prostitution. Now the two sides are arguing over how much time that should get him in prison. He was denied his request to remain free pending sentencing, which happens on October 2nd, I think. He was smug and right back to his entitled self in court yesterday evening, demanding to speak to the judge personally when he gathered that he wasn't going to be allowed to remain free because earlier, once he had been acquitted of those serious charges and found guilty on the least serious, I mean, it's not a walk in the park, the time that you'd have to do
Starting point is 00:51:32 on the prostitution counts, but it's way lighter than he would have gotten. He was super jubilant. He was allowed by this court to get down on his knees in the middle of the courtroom and pray to God, thank God. He's a God-fearing man. He's super faithful. In between beatings of the girlfriends he's with, he loves to beat them to a fucking pulp
Starting point is 00:51:53 and then pray to his Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. That's how it works. So he, at that point in the trial proceedings, was like, the judge made some stupid inappropriate joke about how I'm sure you'd love to leave the detention center, Mr. Combs. And inappropriate in tone and comment in substance. And Diddy was like, yes, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:13 he put his hands together like, oh yes, oh, laughing with his hands like praying, please do that for me, judge. Give me a break. I threw up in my mouth. And then by the time they got back at five o'clock to actually issue a ruling on whether he could stay free, the judge, who was a newbie, had apparently spoke
Starting point is 00:52:31 with some more seasoned judges on the bench in SDNY and said, get your ass back to prison. And at that point, Diddy reportedly looked stunned and forlorn and his newfound hubris walked out the door with him because he was like, I just need to speak to the judge directly. He's convinced, he's ditty. He can charm his way out of anything.
Starting point is 00:52:54 And I do believe his wealth, his fame, his swagger charmed this jury right out of finding that he had sex trafficked these women, not to mention guilty of the Rico claim, which I think they had the guy they had him dead to rights on So now they're arguing about whether he should get two years in jail per the government I'm sorry per the defense or four to five years in jail Per the prosecution and he'll already get time served for the ten months in prison What do you make of all these results? It was one of those things that as an outsider you're watching this and you're seeing all these
Starting point is 00:53:26 accusations, you're seeing all these terrible things, and it's hard to know what to make of it when it comes to the legal aspects, right? Sometimes I'm, I will say as an observer and not a legal expert like you, Megan, like I see these things and sometimes I'm like I don't even understand that result. You watch it from sort of a gut instinct at some level and As I'm watching this I'm seeing you know you see these text messages They tried to promote the text messages that looked like you know Maybe these girls were into this at least at one point and all of this and it goes back and forth and I just you know Watching watching him celebrate
Starting point is 00:54:02 Afterward I was just brought back to the fact that I'm pretty sure I experienced, which was watching a video in which he beat the hell out of a woman in a hotel. Like that happened, right? Like that was a real thing. It wasn't AI. Multiple times.
Starting point is 00:54:19 And that didn't even seem to be dealt with here. It seemed to be like, oh, well, did he sex traffic these women? Was he using force to convince them to commit these acts of commercial sex? Or was it just that- Or just coercion. It doesn't even have to be physical force. Right, coercion, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Or even a threat of force is one of the standards, right? I think there's four standards. It's force, fraud, or coercion, but yes. Yeah, regardless. what do you mean? He didn't use force. I saw it. I watched the video. I saw this happen, and I think that's
Starting point is 00:54:52 why it's so shocking to the American people. Like, these are things that are so overtly over the line. If you do that thing that I saw on video one time, I never want to see you ever walking around again for any reason outside of a prison cell period. Like that is already way the fact that you can bring yourself over that line to do it just one time under any circumstance is more than enough. And you know, I don't know what legal loophole I don't know if it was, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:24 they just thought they liked his songs from the 90s. I have no idea what the jury was thinking here. It doesn't seem to make any sense to me, but at the end of the day, what is right is the fact that a person who does that is not available in public to be able to do it again. And the fact that that might happen in a few years or maybe less is a catastrophe.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Well look at this. There's deadlines. Dominic Patton with a different prediction, top five. You know, I hate to say this, but in America, you can just ask Bill Clinton, if you say sorry enough, eventually enough people forgive you, being that he can now legitimately say he got off on the majority of these counts from a prosecution who way overreached and underplayed. Again, I don't understand why you do Rico, but you only charge one guy.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Like maybe you need to look up what Rico is. To that, I think that you are going to see how he plays out the next few years of his career given or given not whatever the prison sentence might be. I don't think we've seen the end of Sean Diddy Combs. Oh my God. Sean Diddy Combs, in my opinion, is an animal. He is an animal, serial woman abuser who is a disgusting pervert to boot.
Starting point is 00:56:40 The testimonials right up to the moment he was arrested, when he knew he was under federal investigation, he was still doing this with Jane, not just the freak offs where she didn't wanna do it and he was making her go back out and do it, but the beatings, he never stop, he loves to beat women. He gets a real Jones out of beating the hell out of women who are a fraction of his size.
Starting point is 00:57:06 He thinks it makes him super manly. It makes him feel really powerful and strong and in control. It's so fun watching them bleed and need plastic surgeons and cower in fear and roll up in a ball to protect their internal organs and play dead so he might lay off of them and jump into the arms of the escort you've hired, shaking because they're so terrified of him. That makes him feel like a real man. But you know what? We're a real forgiving country, so sure, he could have another second act.
Starting point is 00:57:35 It's a no. It's disgusting. How are we even having that discussion on the heels of this? I don't care that it didn't rise to the level in these 12 people's minds of beyond a reasonable doubt for sex trafficking. There's no question he did the beatings. He didn't even dispute it, Stu. How could he? It was on video. There's no way to dispute it.
Starting point is 00:57:55 It happened. We all saw it. You're right. He didn't even dispute it. And I don't know. I have maybe, we've had such a optimistic first hour, uh in our chat Maybe i'm caught in that world where I don't think the american people are going to widely embrace Him again. I hope he doesn't have a a second act Um, you know, I hope he never gets out of prison My guess is he will eventually and he probably will attempt it.
Starting point is 00:58:25 He's a man that wants attention and certainly craves it. I really hope the American people don't do that, but we are in a strange place. We just went through several months of half the country telling us an illegal immigrant who was shipped to El Salvador was actually a hero, even though he also had beat his wife and we were supposed to embrace him and be worried about protecting him rather than protecting the women that they were beating. That's a society that is at least partially insane. When you see something like this on video, the reaction should be really clear. It should be revulsion and our odds, our law should be set up to make sure something like that doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:59:10 They shouldn't be set up to, for all of us to sit here and whine about, you know, some illegal immigrant that came in and has committed multiple crimes, including physical abuse. That shouldn't be the thing we're looking to protect. That should be the thing we're all on TV yelling about. And we're all excited about making sure he's protected and can get back with his wonderful family life, which seems to involve fists a little bit too often for my tastes. Instead, we should be able to unite around this.
Starting point is 00:59:36 I mean, Combs isn't even a political figure, which maybe makes things more divisive. He's a celebrity. And I saw outside of the courtroom people cheering, celebrating the fact that he had only been convicted on those minor charges. Putting baby oil on stuff, like it was some hilarious thing.
Starting point is 00:59:54 I saw like some guy, you probably saw the same guy with the T-shirt that said, a Freako is not a Rico. And I thought to myself, what sickness has to get into your brain to not only like maybe disagree with me and you on the merits of this case, but to want to print a t-shirt and stand out and celebrate a man who we all saw beat up a woman on video.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Even if he didn't do that, to just celebrate, you know, a certain, a level of sexual deviancy that used to be really easy to just, to look down upon and say it was a bad idea. All this stuff is now, you know, I don't know, praised and celebrated by a portion of the population that I think is small as a number, but way too big on an absolute basis. It's disgusting.
Starting point is 01:00:46 I'm just so, I'm forlorn about the Diddy result. I really am. I hope this judge gives him the maximum he can possibly give him. I really do. I hope he gets 10 years or more, because he's guilty on two counts that could hold a 10 year sentence.
Starting point is 01:00:59 I don't think that's going to happen. And unfortunately, SDNY judges have a reputation for sentencing under the sentencing guidelines. Who knows why? Maybe it was just a more liberal town or they're worried about overcrowding, but it doesn't look like he's gonna do too much time. We'll find out on October 2nd.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Another follow-up on a case we were live for many hours on yesterday, Brian Kohlberger. We talked about this. We had a very, very smart panel watching him plead guilty and then analyzing it right after. We had Matt Murphy, who's a lifetime prosecutor putting bad guys, including eight serial killers in jail. And we had Howard Bloom, who has had tons of exclusives
Starting point is 01:01:40 on this case and really has been leading the reporting. And Phil Holloway joined us as well. And one of the things we all reacted to after we watched the hearing with this judge who allowed a guilty plea on the murder of those four young people in Idaho, as opposed to having a trial where the death penalty would remain on the table,
Starting point is 01:01:56 was that he opened the hearing yesterday with a little lecture for Steve Goncalves, the father of Kaylee Goncalves, one of the murder victims. And he didn't mention him by name, but he started the hearing by saying, some people close to this case have asked others to call this court. And that is totally inappropriate and out of line.
Starting point is 01:02:18 I haven't listened to the messages, I haven't read the emails, and I won't, because I will not be influenced by anything other than the law and the facts. Okay, fine. You shouldn't be influenced by anything other than the law and the facts. But how about you don't open the hearing
Starting point is 01:02:36 where you are taking the guilty plea of a man who murdered four young people by chastising one of their parents for a moment of anger in which he asked for you to have to deal with a couple of angry calls. What in the actual F? So now Steve Goncalves, he noticed it too.
Starting point is 01:02:59 My panel and I picked up on it right away. And Steve Goncalves, the dad, he noticed it too, because it was one of the first things he commented on when he spoke last night. He actually went on with, on Ashley Banfield's show. And here he is speaking to what Judge Hipler, two P's, did yesterday in SOTS6. Four souls were lost for one Brian.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Brian's not worth one of these people, let alone four. And I'll never accept a deal where one fricking Brian gets locked up in daycare for fricking adults. And that's supposed to be equivalent to four souls, four Idahoans, four of us guys, four of us in college, doing everything to the best of our ability. One loser from Pennsylvania is in his life in our system taking care of him. That's equivalent. That's equivalent. You need to keep calling. You need to keep calling people like Hippler.
Starting point is 01:03:56 And maybe he doesn't get reelected. Maybe he needs to pick up that phone and hear those calls and understand who he represents, because this is Idaho and we hold you accountable. Okay, and then he gave a paper statement after the appearance. It was posted by Brian Enton of NewsNation yesterday after seven, and it reads in part as follows. The police started off with a judge who was angry
Starting point is 01:04:21 about people reaching out to him, and then went further to stand on his soapbox, stating nothing affects his decisions in this case or any other case, and he has not and will not read any comments. Maybe that wasn't the best way to start a plea involving the murder of four Idaho College students. Our hope is that the judge might reflect back on his decisions today and take the high road next time and not make the plea of a murderer about him and his decision.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Maybe he will show some empathy to the victim's families who have been in this torture chamber for over two years while he only became involved a few months ago. Right on, Steve Goncalves. I just feel like the whole system out there has basically been giving the families the stiff arm or the middle finger from the start, gagging the family members from even speaking about what happened to their loved ones over the objections of now we know two of the families, Xander Cronodo's family also objected to giving this guy a
Starting point is 01:05:22 plea and taking the death penalty off the table. And two of the family members supported it. So you had two for two against, letting the families know via email that they had cut the deal. And then to this judge opening the plea hearing by chastising one of the grieving family members, a parent of a dead girl. There's something wrong with the way this has been handled. Incredibly wrong. And I can understand being maybe a family member of one of these victims and just
Starting point is 01:05:54 being at the end of your rope. Like maybe you just don't want to go through any other levels of this. You don't want to deal with any more. That might be everyone has to grieve and go through that process in a totally different way. That shouldn't be how this is influenced should be how it's handled I mean the legal system is set up to to take ourselves a little bit out of the system of emotions It's supposed to be
Starting point is 01:06:16 Based on the law and our standards and it doesn't seem like this case was You know this it's a fascinating case, you know I go to CrimeCon every year and they had a panel on this and they were discussing it. Yeah. I mean, it's fascinating to me. Yeah, same. They do incredible things there and it's a great event. But part of this is it's about victims' rights, right?
Starting point is 01:06:41 It's about these victims being able to get their stories heard and so many of them get forgotten. And you're doing a panel on this and they're describing these crimes and it's almost different. It's impossible to listen to. It's so disconcerting to even hear the details of it. These poor, innocent people going through this torturous situation. And I don't know, maybe I think of these things sometimes, I pull myself out of the actual case. And I think about this as almost from my day to day is more talking about policy. And it's like, you can have a country
Starting point is 01:07:16 that has no death penalty. A lot of countries have that situation. That's a situation you can have if your people demand it. But if you are a nation that has capital punishment, how on earth does this case not rise to that standard? What else could it be? What else could rise to it? This is as vicious and soulless of a crime that we have seen in my lifetime. It's heartless and just so incredibly disturbing, not to mention it took a long time to make these parents and friends go through this torturous process of
Starting point is 01:07:52 where it was denied and the chase was on and all of these different things that led to where we finally got the other day. He avoids the whole trial situation and then you know gets out of the punishment that our society, if you think it's right or wrong, has determined is the ultimate punishment and absolutely has to be applied if it exists. If we're going to have this punishment, this is the case for it and it's disturbing. I understand the you know the family members that are hesitant because they don't want to go through any more of this. And I get that. But as a society, we have to maintain some standards when it comes to a vicious crime like this.
Starting point is 01:08:32 And I do think this rose to that standard. That's right. It's about more than just the families on justice, on serving as a deterrent for the next killer. And there's a real argument there that the death penalty serves as the most effective deterrent and that the county and beyond had an interest in seeing this guy put to death.
Starting point is 01:08:52 The case was open and shut. They had his DNA on the knife sheath that was left next to two of the four dead bodies. They had his car all over the murder scene in the moments before and the moments after. They had him turning off his phone, which was an unusual pattern for him, at 2.37 a.m. and turning it back on right after the murders. They had an eyewitness in the murder house who laid eyes on him and saw his bushy eyebrows
Starting point is 01:09:21 and can describe a man who matches his description perfectly. They had the police finding him when they arrested him back in Pennsylvania, stuffing his garbage into little plastic baggies that he was depositing into the neighbor's trash cans so as not to be detected by DNA, by any lurking law enforcement. And we learned yesterday as the prosecutor laid out the case, they had searched his apartment to find that it had been meticulously scrubbed of anything of evidentiary value, and also had his car,
Starting point is 01:09:54 which he said had basically been dismantled piece by piece. Not even the side pockets where you sometimes throw a napkin or something, had a speck of dirt or dust in them, it was clear it had been disassembled, sterilized, and then put back together. Who does that? Who does that? Not to mention the purchase of a K-bar knife right before the murders, a couple of months before the murders as he made his way out to Idaho, and then the search for a replacement K-Bar knife after the murders, which he clearly had discarded.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Now we know he used it, because he's admitted it, right after the murders, searching for a replacement and a replacement knife sheath. And on top of all that, you have this picture, Stu, of the murderer. This is literally five hours after he took four lives, which was at 412 in the morning on November 13th, 2022. And here he is after having driven back to the crime scene
Starting point is 01:11:03 to see whether anyone had stumbled upon his carnage. And at that hour, things were still silent because the two surviving roommates were cowering in fear in their rooms, unable to do anything. And he didn't see cops, he didn't see crime scene tape, he just saw a quiet house. He drove back to his home. He had already spoken with his mother for an hour at 6 a.m., two hours after the murders,
Starting point is 01:11:30 and he clearly showered off. And here he is in a white shirt buttoned up to the top, looking like a vampire, like all the blood had drained out of his body, smiling, proud of himself, giving the thumbs up, wanting to memorialize his achievement, his accomplishment. And for this man, we pulled the death penalty on an open and shut case. I don't know what's wrong with this Idaho prosecutor, but cowardice comes to mind.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Yeah, there was no need, right? This was obvious. You just laid out the details. Anyone can see what happened here. comes to mind. Yeah, there was no need, right? This was obvious. You just laid out the details. Anyone can see what happened here. We didn't even need a confession, frankly. There was so much evidence in this case. There should be a standard where we're trying to remove people like this from a polite society. Like that is what the legal system does in a case like this.
Starting point is 01:12:27 We have to make sure that people who are psychopathic enough to go through what had to be, you know, certainly the most vicious attack that most of us can remember, to go through that and then hours later be like, hey, thumbs up to the cameras, time to take a selfie. A person who is capable of that is certainly capable of doing it again and is certainly capable of really pretty much anything. And so to remove him from our world, our society is what we've determined is the right punishment
Starting point is 01:13:02 for that. There's an open and shut case And they did not need him to, yeah, they did not need him to, I know it's always easier, of course. You never wanna take a risk and God forbid something would go wrong. You never know. We've all seen cases where the wrong thing has happened. You wanna get that confession, of course, locked up.
Starting point is 01:13:20 But this was not going to be a tough one. This was not gonna be a difficult thing for the people of Idaho to determine. And thankfully, you know. You had internet searches about Ted Bundy right after the murder. You had internet searches on sleeping victims in murder cases.
Starting point is 01:13:38 He was obsessed with Ted Bundy. He took another selfie of himself looking just like Ted Bundy in the documentary in a hoodie, sweatshirt. This was not a well man, not to mention all of his writings as a teenager about how sick he was, about how dead inside, about how he was a pile of meat who felt no emotion.
Starting point is 01:13:56 I want to see Brian Kohlberger in the electric chair. That's what I want. I wanna see him in front of a firing squad. I've said this in my audience before. I know I'm Catholic. I don't think I'm supposed to be in favor of the death penalty. I don't care. I am. I am. I am in favor of the death penalty. And it's exactly for people like this. He's a failed experiment of a human being. You know, there's something about he's not human. He's the devil's advocate. There's something evil about him and evil must be extinguished, not allowed to wither on the vine, not put behind bars, where
Starting point is 01:14:31 it can still have a voice or get interviewed by press or by college professors. Evil should be extinguished. And that's what should happen to Brian Kohlberger. And unfortunately, because of a cowardly prosecutor now, it won't. Okay, let's move on. Because I have to say the one thing about yesterday, we were on the air for four hours, and God bless my listeners and viewers for sticking with us. The one good thing about it for me as a news anchor, Stu,
Starting point is 01:14:55 is I'm so glad to mostly be done with these two. You know, like what darkness? Kohlberger, that case is so dark, and I feel so deeply for the families who don't get to turn the page and just go on to covering other stories. They have to live with this loss in an acute way forever. And on the Diddy trial, we decided as a show
Starting point is 01:15:17 because it was such a big case and because too few people were covering it. I don't know why. Is it because it's a black defendant? Is it because they too, in the entertainment world, have fallen under his spell in the way the people around Diddy did? Well, I wasn't going to do that.
Starting point is 01:15:35 I'm not under his spell. And we covered that case every single day on AM Update. Some of our audience complained, but they listened. And often on the Megyn Kelly show, and I'm thrilled to be done with it. It feels like getting immersed in scum, and truly in evil. So it's wonderful as a news person
Starting point is 01:15:55 to do in fact be able to turn the page. It's nice to be able to talk about the big, beautiful Bill. It's nice to be able to talk about the wins for Riley Gaines and others. It's nice to be able to talk about Joy Reid. Riley Gaines and others. It's nice to be able to talk about Joy Reid. Let's do that. That's a palate cleanser. That's just fun bad.
Starting point is 01:16:10 She's not evil. She's just fun bad. Let's go to Joy Reid. She's got it in her name. Joyful. Let's see what she has to say. She's very concerned about alligator Alcatraz. And here's why.
Starting point is 01:16:24 We tried to forget about him him but Ron DeSantis is still governor of Florida. He took the comfy couch hosts on a tour of the concentration camp that he's building in Florida in order to round up people, round people and throw them in a camp because he doesn't want them in Florida. Surprise surprise, the economy of Florida is going to be severely harmed by rounding up brown people who by the way, all over this country, Latinos are afraid to go to work. Anybody who is perceived or looks Latino is afraid to go to work. I know people who are not Latino, but they're brown. And so they look Latino to the naked eye, if you don't know any better, who are walking
Starting point is 01:17:03 around with their passports, who never leave home without a passport. I have Latinos working for me. They're good. They're fine. They're not worried at all. Everything's business as usual. Who does she know? Is she hanging out with a bunch of illegals who have committed crimes?
Starting point is 01:17:17 Cause that's really who's on the top of Tom Homan's priority lists too. Yeah, yeah. That's fascinating. It's such an interesting way that they just will take entire groups of people and talk for them. They're always speaking for everyone else. Apparently, all brown people have the same opinion. It's odd because I just went through all the new election polls from the election voter survey that just came out this week. Donald Trump
Starting point is 01:17:40 won Latino men. Yeah, they're in favor and they're in favor of these policies They're in favor of these policies, you know why because Latino men are like other men and other like like other women They believe in the rule of law. They actually don't want people. They don't want a society That is run by corruption. They don't want society that is run by ignoring laws of favored groups Many of them are here because they fled a nation that was applying those types of policies to them. People like, the United States attracts people and the reason that it does that is at least the hope that we're going to treat people fairly and not think of them as you know brown people to quote Joy Reid. The people that are going into this facility are not brown people, they aren't
Starting point is 01:18:24 random Latino people who are just being rounded up on the streets. They are people who have committed crimes and that's on top largely, as you point out with Tom Homan's priorities, on top of the crime that they committed by just being here in the first place illegally. The worst first. That's what Homan keeps saying. Worst first. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:43 Exactly. And look, we've got a big problem there. It's going toman keeps saying. Worst first. Yeah, exactly. And look, we've got a big problem there. It's going to take a while to deal with that. And the administration's tried to be upfront with people to say, look, if you came here, and I have some sympathy for this actually, Megan, because for a very long time in our country, we treated crossing the border illegally sort of like an understandable speeding violation, right? Like, oh, hey, you know, I know it's Democrats and Republicans alike.
Starting point is 01:19:13 The Democrats and Republicans alike. And we said, I know it looks, we put a sign up that says 20, but if you're going 35, it's not going to be a big deal. We kept saying, we communicated to that. We had a party in the United States, Joe Biden was on stage saying, we want you here. We invite you here. And so I have some sympathy for people who said, well, they don't seem to really mean this. And some people did come and did not commit additional crimes and did live what we would say is a relatively normal life. That doesn't make it OK. The fact that you committed a crime by crossing the border that we decided not to enforce and you did it for a very long time does not make you immune to
Starting point is 01:19:52 to this crime, you know, being addressed. The administration has been very upfront with those people and said we're not coming for you first. You're not our priority, number one. Number two, if you really want to be part of this country, if you really do respect this nation, if you really want to be here as part of the melting pot that is America, understand what the process needs to be. You may have made a mistake before. We're going to give you an opportunity to go back to your home and come back through the front door the proper way. I'm a big believer that the people that do that oftentimes make our country much, much better. The people who come here legally do incredible things. They might even appreciate this nation more than a lot of the citizens
Starting point is 01:20:34 do. I put Joy Reid in that particular category. So go back and come back in the front way. No, it's not hard to beat her. Who back in. Who is Joy Reid's number one guest while she had her show on NBC? Her favorite guest is the only person I can think of who is as racist as she is. He absolutely hates white people in my opinion, and so does she. It's Ellie Mistel, who is a correspondent for The Nation.
Starting point is 01:21:00 He's still at it. So let me just give you a flavor of what he was saying after this time last week when we got those Supreme Court rulings, including the one stopping the nationwide injunction thing by the federal district court judges. Here's his take. Her favorite guest, MSNBC, which has no ratings anymore. And this is why. Watch. Walk me through why you see this ruling as deeply dangerous, not for people who are birthright citizens, but much more broadly for every American.
Starting point is 01:21:32 Imagine Donald Trump wants to do something illegal to you, Ali Velshi. Imagine that he wants to murder you. Imagine that he and Stephen Miller release an entire policy explaining about how they can murder Canadian journalists who are working in America because they're taking the jobs from real American journalists, right? So he's going to murder you. So you, Ali Velshi, you go to court.
Starting point is 01:21:56 You go to court in the Southern District of New York and you say, I don't think this murder thing is constitutional. It's clearly illegal. And the court says, you're right, Ali Velshi. There's no way Donald Trump is allowed to murder you. We're gonna have an injunction. We're gonna stay the executive order saying that he's gonna murder Canadian journalists. And so you're like, great, awesome. And you go home. And then Pat Kiernan shows up and he's like, what about me? I'm also a Canadian. Actually Banfield shows up. I'm also as Canadian. What about me? And the court's like, I can't help you cuz Ali Velshi is the one
Starting point is 01:22:30 who sued. So Pat Kiernan, if you don't wanna be murdered, you have to launch your entire own lawsuit in the Southern District of New York, again, to make sure that Donald Trump doesn't murder you. And while the Supreme Court is deciding who the Ali Velshi can't be murdered injunction applies to, guess what? Donald Trump starts murdering people. That makes it very clear. Ha ha ha ha ha. Very clear.
Starting point is 01:22:55 Ha ha ha ha. How about Ali Velshi? Yeah, yeah, I got totally good. This is very helpful, Ali Mostel. Trump, he wants to murder me, obviously, and this all makes perfect sense. There's nothing inappropriate about this analogy. Oh no, not at all, especially when we're talking
Starting point is 01:23:11 about a guy that I saw get shot on stage. I don't know if anyone remembers this. It's so laughable and just disgusting. They're so crazy, Stu. Yes, and I think this is part of what happens. It's just this behavior just gets incentivized. It's like the person I assume this person exists. I never see them on television, but there's probably a sensible Democrat that could come out and say, you know, this probably has gotten a little bit out of control. Like, you know, the fact that
Starting point is 01:23:39 like every local court is trying to block nationwide policy here. That is a real problem. Dan Turrentine would say that he's a voice of reason on Two Way. Every local court is trying to block nationwide policy here. That is a real problem. Dan Turrentine would say that. He's a voice of reason on Two Way. There are a few. There are a few. Most of them don't get booked, I will say, on television all that often or not enough. This is something that the Supreme Court has been complaining about for a while.
Starting point is 01:23:56 This isn't just some new thing under Donald Trump. This has been a situation where it's gotten out of control. Everyone wants to be the superstar. They want to be the person who has this big ice stick. Yeah. Yeah. They want to be the person who stand up and ice. I stopped Donald Trump. I had this big injunction. I'm the one that was responsible for that. That's not the way the system's supposed to operate.
Starting point is 01:24:15 And the lefties hated the nationwide injunctions when, when Obama was president, when Biden was president, you know, I celebrated the nationwide injunction under Title IX. I admitted that when this case first got percolated up. I loved it. Doesn't mean it has to be allowed in perpetuity or that it's totally appropriate. So whatever, it's been struck down.
Starting point is 01:24:33 It's gonna help both Democrat and Republican presidents. It has expanded the power of the presidency. And then I don't disagree with Charlie Cook that the Congress may wanna take a good, long, hard look at whether we want an executive that empowered. I personally don't. I like a smaller presidency. The problem is that Congress is full of not all, but it's full of a lot of idiots. So no one's really looking to see them assert their rights over the executive, because right now this executive has been very, very helpful in restoring order.
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Starting point is 01:27:07 That's SiriusXM.com slash MK show and get three months free. Offer details apply. The long, long, long filibuster by Hakeem Jeffries has stopped. And ABC News wants you to know, he shattered the record for the longest House floor remarks in US history. Yay, but it's over. And now they're gonna vote on the BBB and it's gonna pass. So great job, Hakeem.
Starting point is 01:27:40 I don't, whatever. Okay, that happened. President Trump is gonna be signing this thing tomorrow and it's going to be big time celebrated. Okay, secondly, Charlize Theron. There's something going on there. She's adopted two children. I believe they're two children of color,
Starting point is 01:27:57 are they two black kids? They're American. And one of them she says is trans. It's a boy who she claims is a girl. And if memory serves, there's, yeah, there's another one who's a girl. Yes, exactly, I was right. And I think that one too has some sort of gender issue.
Starting point is 01:28:17 I could be wrong about the second one. But if a right-wing person like Amy Coney Barrett, by the way, adopts a black child like from Haiti, they get denounced by these lefties as doing something inappropriate, like you're somehow depriving the child of the right cultural upbringing. But I guess if Charlene Theron, who's a avowed liberal, does it, it's fine. So she decided to go on a podcast tour for some reason, sat down with Call Her Daddy, the sex podcaster, who interviewed Kamala Harris all about how much they love abortions. And this is Charlize Theron
Starting point is 01:28:52 trying to sound like super cool girl. And I'm going to let you decide for yourself whether that's what she accomplished in SOT26. Do you have any sex tip for the girls? I am the last person to ask. I'm like sounding very cocky here, but I think it's because I found this freedom in my 40s where I'm like, oh my God, so I just want to say this in perspective. I've probably had three one-nights dance in my entire life. Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:19 But I did just recently fuck a 26-year-old, and it was really fucking amazing. Fuck, yes. Yes, and I've never done that. And I was like, oh, this is great. I should be the ones that are like, fuck you. Like I'm gonna have an orgasm. And yet I, my whole life was so concerned about... Same.
Starting point is 01:29:37 The same? Same. Okay. Oh my God. So my advice would be this. Don't fucking do that. For two reasons. You're gonna have better orgasms
Starting point is 01:29:46 and guess what, your man's gonna like that. Okay, I think I just found my next parody. She played me in a movie and I can play her in one too. What's going on there? I gotta tell you, Supergear, I have to tell you something. I kind of call it bullshit because I believe that Charlize Theron probably prefers women. That's my belief, okay?
Starting point is 01:30:11 I'm entitled to my opinion and there's no reason to get into the details as to why I believe it, but I believe it. And I don't think that she's telling the truth about the 26-year-old. I think this is the way, in the same way, I told the audience this story about how Doug and I have a friend, a lot of our gay friends
Starting point is 01:30:27 thought that this friend was gay. And we never knew whether he was gay or not, but this guy who was the suspected gay man would constantly make inappropriate, like weird comments about, my girlfriend looks amazing naked. And Doug would always be like, straight men don't talk about their girlfriends like that. That's like a gay man's idea of how a straight man would talk about his girlfriend
Starting point is 01:30:48 and I feel like this is an overcompensation where she's like I fucked it. I'm sorry to repeat it. It's vulgar. The other girl's vulgar and they're both really shockingly inappropriate. I think in the clip it was very off-putting but my theory is it's an overcompensation. Your thoughts. It was very off-putting, but my theory is it's an overcompensation. Your thoughts. That's fascinating. I had, you know, it's a bizarre society that elevates that sort of conversation, I would say. Strange.
Starting point is 01:31:16 And I don't know. I don't know. I mean, you might have more information on this than I do. I definitely do. Definitely. I will say this, Megan. Definitely seems like you do. Let me tell you something Megan definitely she's not gonna be suing me for defamation.
Starting point is 01:31:30 That's great. Opinion is not suitable for defamation anyway. Go ahead. It's just just your opinion Megan you made that very clear very much just your opinion. But it does seem like you know it's like I I guess that's supposed to make her like, edgy, right? Like it's supposed to be, hey, look at me, I'll say it, I'll just say it. I like doing that. It just seems it seems pathetic. It seems like you're trying too hard. And I there is an element there of
Starting point is 01:31:57 like, everybody knows that person who is trying to pretend that there's something else. Maybe it's just that she's very boring and stays home on Friday nights. I don't know, Megan, but it definitely seems like there's something else. Maybe it's just that she's very boring and stays home on Friday nights. I don't know, Megan, but it definitely seems like there's something she's compensating for. Okay, could be that. I'll entertain your theory. Maybe it's just that she's boring and not something else.
Starting point is 01:32:14 But okay, she's 49 years old. She's trying to sound like she's 26 years old and it's inappropriate. It feels weird. She's one of our biggest stars. That's true. Act like it, act like it, have some class. Like honestly, it's a very strange thing to see
Starting point is 01:32:29 one of our best known actresses sit down like that with the crossed legs with this sex podcaster talking about their orgasms and who they effed. It's just really off-putting and feels really off, just it's a turnoff. Here she doubles down on how little she needs a man in her life. Hello, back to my theory.
Starting point is 01:32:46 Even when it comes to child rearing, SOT 27. I think people look at it, like in our society is this kind of, something must be wrong with her, right? With women, it's always like, something must be wrong with her. She can't keep a man. And it's never part of the discussion of like, wow, she's really living her truth.
Starting point is 01:33:06 Like she's living in her happiness. Like this is actually a choice that she made. I like wanna just like look at them and just be like, do you know how fucking great it is to live exactly how I want to live? To experience motherhood exactly how I wanted to experience it. And my fucking God do I love every single day of it.
Starting point is 01:33:27 I love that I don't have to share them with somebody. I love that I don't have to run every fucking thing by a guy. I love that I don't have to, well, oh my God, co-parent, I like, I fucking love that I don't have to do any of that stuff. Okay, I just have to say something about the swearing. I love a good F-bomb.
Starting point is 01:33:46 The audience knows that it has to be strategically deployed. If you, when one really feels it, really feels it, the audience will forgive you for it, but every sentence and F-bomb, F in this, F in that, F in God, F in like, what is that? This is like an affectation where she's trying to act like again, the young cool girl, I get it. And I don't need a man. She's got two children.
Starting point is 01:34:12 They don't need a father. Okay. Like she's super proud of the fact that there's no father in the picture. Great. Good for you. That's a psychotic view of what marriage is. Marriage and parenthood is not like, oh, I got to run this by my wife if
Starting point is 01:34:27 my son's gonna play in this little league team. Like, that's not what marriage is. Again, I don't know. How do you even talk to somebody who thinks that way? It's like an alien that dropped out of another planet and you're trying to explain to them basic human desires, needs, wants. There's a lot of real positives that come out of it. You'll be shocked. Maybe if she tried it, she'd enjoy it. All of human history, what we've seen is that people do. Yes, there are problems.
Starting point is 01:34:57 Yes, sometimes, of course, everyone has their frustrations in a relationship. I suppose sitting by yourself all the time, left to your own devices can be appealing for a time. But you know what? Almost everybody eventually gets mature enough to figure out that that is not the optimal way to live. Eventually people wind up trying to find something that's a little bit deeper than I get to do what I want for me all the time. And that's apparently where she is and apparently doesn't wanna leave.
Starting point is 01:35:25 So well put. She doesn't, there is not a gender issue with the second child. It's the first child who's a boy claiming to be a girl. And Charlize is on record as saying, I thought I adopted a boy, but he looked at me at age three and said, I'm a girl. And I was like, okay, you're a girl.
Starting point is 01:35:42 As if a three yearyear-old has any understanding, truly, of what gender is, and can make that kind of a decision. I mean, it's just such a sad situation. I mean, for those children, for the one child in particular, I feel sad for them. I feel sad that she doesn't feel the need to bring a father figure, obviously, into their life.
Starting point is 01:36:02 Not a full-time one. And she's super thrilled to be not having that and Sees men as a burden and not as additive and again back to my theory I think there's a reason for that, but I just think she's not who I thought she was not not at all And it's just on the on the front of you know, this is just a societal thing You know We keep hearing that this is a very natural thing
Starting point is 01:36:27 that people want, boys wanna be girls and girls wanna be boys. And actually they really are, they're put in their quote unquote wrong bodies. Yet it's so interesting how the percentage of those people seem to coalesce around people with that type of attitude as parents. Like that is, it's not a coincidence, right?
Starting point is 01:36:43 That's not a coincidence that liberal areas have much higher percentages of children who find themselves in this situation. And of course have it encouraged and have it pushed, you know, either on them or just, you know, propped along the entire way. You know, the word social contagion and the term social contagion is used often to describe this and it's just hard to deny
Starting point is 01:37:07 Honestly, it's it's not a coincidence that the children that wind up in this situation tend to be around parents who believe this way Mm-hmm. Yeah, she was standing up for the drag queens not long ago She doesn't want any man in her life She's allegedly has a trans child which is not a thing. Children are not trans and they're not born in the wrong bodies. And now she wants us to know all about her orgasms and now she F'd this person, this 26-year-old the other day. I mean, okay, whatever. People can make their own minds up. This is not how I would like to see our biggest stars behave, I have to say. She's on the opposite side of the aisle than we are politically,
Starting point is 01:37:47 Stu, but you never see Julia Roberts do this kind of thing. She did pop up, she voiced over that ridiculous ad about how you could disobey your husband. That's getting openly political. That's fine. I mean, I don't like it, but she doesn't debase herself in order to get attention. She doesn't call the paparazzi to get photos of herself getting a Starbucks. She makes sure her children stay out of the news.
Starting point is 01:38:09 I respect that. It's fine, she's on the opposite side of the aisle. She wants, that's fine. But she doesn't debase herself for attention because she's a true star. She's a very big star, one of our biggest. Hats off to her for that. Okay, finally, Stu Bergeer,
Starting point is 01:38:23 our favorite congressman, Brandon Gill, responding to the eight and a half hour speech by Representative Jeffries with, thank you for your input, Representative Jeffries. Now we are going to pass the big, beautiful bill. So the big, beautiful bill goes past and another victory is about to line up for President Trump. Your thoughts on it in the minute we have left,
Starting point is 01:38:45 or less, 20 seconds. Well, he's my representative down here in Texas. He is, there's something about the way he presents these arguments, very deadpan, that it is just absolutely hilarious. And he's a joy to watch. I'd look, there's a lot to liken this bill. This had to happen.
Starting point is 01:39:02 The fact that all, not just rich people, but middle class people as well, were about to pay a lot more in taxes if this didn't go through. And that's the main achievement of this bill, along with the border stuff. And the border enforcement. That's right. It's huge. Those two things. All right. I got to run. A lot of positives. Congrats on having Brandon Gill as your representative. And it was a pleasure.
Starting point is 01:39:22 Happy Independence Day, Stu. Thank you. You too, Megan. And to all of you too. Happy Fourth. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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