The Megyn Kelly Show - Crockett's Identity Theft, Vance's Dominance, and Death of Legacy Media - Link Lauren, Mark Halperin, and Glenn Beck at "Megyn Kelly Live" | Ep. 1184

Episode Date: October 31, 2025

Megyn Kelly welcomes Link Lauren, Mark Halperin, and Glenn Beck to the "Megyn Kelly Live" tour stop in Fort Worth, Texas, to discuss the liars and frauds like Jasmine Crockett, Michelle Obama, and J. Lo, why JD Vance is the runaway favorite to be the next president of the United States, the death of legacy media and the future of America, each of their lives and careers, and more. First Liberty Institute: Explore why religious liberty is the first freedom tyrants target—and get your free copy of America’s First Freedom at https://FirstLiberty.org/MegynDone with Debt: https://www.DoneWithDebt.com  & tell them Megyn Kelly sent you!Byrna: Go to https://Byrna.com or your local Sportsman's Warehouse today.Incogni: Take your personal data back with Incogni! Get 60% off an annual plan at https://incogni.com/MEGYN  code MEGYN at checkout.  Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at:https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. It's so great to be with you. It's so great. Please sit. Please get comfortable. I love you. Love you too. It's such an honor to be with you guys tonight. Just watching that tape. you know, brings back all the thought that went into whether we went forward with this tour or not, right, given everything that's happened. And I was thinking about it the other day because we have three kids. They're 16, 14, and 12, boy, girl, boy. And my husband and my three kids had some concerns about doing the tour, just given everything. And we understood as a family

had to happen. They had concerns, but that it had to happen. And I told them it has to happen. And as we get closer, my daughter Yardley said to me, Mom, she goes, you know what, just go out there, have a great time. And she said, and you remember all these people who are actually going to show up at these events, those are your most faithful listeners and viewers. They've got you. I know. It's such a sweet thing for her to remind me of. And I feel it. You know, this is our third event.

And when I come out here, I feel it. I feel that positive energy from all of you. And it's like so sweet that my daughter, this 12-year-old. or this 14-year-old had this great messaging and this great insight. And the reason she had that is because Doug and I are raising our kids to be strong, self-sufficient, responsible children with good senses of perspective, as I know all of you are with your children. Unlike some of the people who are in the news these days.

And I've been thinking about, we're going to talk about a few of these gals when Link Lauren comes out here, okay? Yeah. There's no one better on these things than Link and Maureen. So, did you happen to see the comment by Jennifer Lopez in the news? She spoke to Howard Stern at Sirius XM. And Jennifer Lopez, who's been married like 24 times, has some thoughts on relationships and actually had the nerve to tell Howard Stern,

no one was capable of loving me. It wasn't me. I'm worthy. But they weren't capable. I've never been loved. And it took about three, two, one before the first husband, who no one's ever heard of, who was like a civilian she married, came out and said, I loved you all the time. You cheated on me with everything that moved.

Like, why would she wave the red flag in front of the bull like that? You know you're going to get that if that's how you behaved in your marriages. But it was amazing to me that she had the nerve to say such a thing, right? And then Ben Affleck, we know all the stories. A-Rod, yada, yada. There's her. Then there was Jennifer Aniston. she was in the news making comment on how she didn't have children and she kind of shrugged it off like

oh you know the opportunity never presented itself now why did the opportunity never present itself because you were too busy working on your career that's fine you wanted to be a big star you want to star movie after movie after movie after movie and that was more important to you than having children i'm sorry but i think you made the wrong choice you know i just it's not that i'm against women working. I think she was sold a bag of goods by feminists who control the messaging, and she really thought that this would be fulfilling to her, and now she's in her late 50s. She has no children and she has no husband at night. I don't know whether she'll ever fully appreciate what she gave up for her fame and fortune. But to me, both of those women have

their values in the wrong place, and I blame J-Lo as well, just for what it's worth, because you know what? J-Lo's got one kid who says they're non-bubes. binary, and then she married Ben Affleck, and he's got a kid who's trans. And I'm telling you, these people prioritize their career and the almighty dollar over everything. And then they wind up like, gee, I don't know why I'm having all the problems. Or in Jennifer Innocent's case, gee, I don't know where my children are. You never prioritize the right things. And that leads me to Oprah. Okay? We need to have a chat about Oprah. I've been talking about Oprah, like privately in my private life with Maureen Callahan, who's got lots of thoughts.

I really think Maureen needs to write her next book on Oprah. I'm going to try to make it happen. And a good friend of mine, she's a writer too, and she's a reporter. She's got a lot of thoughts on Oprah, and she's a little younger than I am, but she was sort of raised on the Oprah diet the way we all were of a certain age. And it turns out we were raised by a sociopath. If you look back at Oprah Winfrey and take a look at the messaging that she was feeding probably every woman in this room and a lot of men, too.

This is not a well person. We were, like, deeply misguided. She's another one who decided, I don't know. She didn't get married, right? She and Stedman, they're not married. I don't know what's going on there. I think she might be a little closer to the astronaut. She didn't have children.

Her show was her child. Okay, great. How much of a comfort is that to you now that you're 71, and it's ancient history? And you're alone. You don't have any grandkids. You don't have any kids. All right.

But Oprah, if you look back at what Oprah did, her biggest legacy was getting us all hooked on therapy culture. And the real word for it today is rumination, which, as it turns out, we're now learning, is literally the worst thing you can do to get through your mental health struggles. Rumination. And what it basically means is you spend all your time

thinking about your problems. Thinking about yourself. Navel gazing. That's why I wore this jacket. so you could navel gaze with me. That's what Oprah taught us all to do. Think about yourself more, more, more, and not just yourself and the possibilities of tomorrow

and how well you might be doing today or what you could do to, you know, get what you're after, but your problems, all the terrible things that have ever happened to you. That is a terrible recipe if you actually want to be a successful, happy person. And lo and behold, we watched many years of Oprah not being a happy person.

like normalizing these weird weight swings like everybody has this compulsive overeating problems and we all want to go through the fat thin fat thin with her she was always happy when she was a fat she was much more happy version and what about her consumerism right her like extreme focus on material goods which was like a central theme of her show

and her narcissism you see the Oprah magazine in the grocery store right have you ever seen anyone other than Oprah on the cover? Can you imagine? Like, no matter what's going on in the world, she's like, no, I think it's still me. Back to me. They really want to see me.

In any of it, I really think it's time to sort of re-evaluate some of these heroes that we've been celebrating. We celebrate celebrity culture in our news. Why would we be celebrating those women? We've been celebrating Oprah for far too long. It was wonderful to see her go down on the election with her endorsement of Harris and that absurd interview she did with her

Kamala Harris I felt like every man who's ever had a nagging wife like oh my God give me out of here and what they've been exposed as is inauthentic right so many of these leftists it's like we've been sold a bag of goods like I said

we were sold a bag of goods on Kamala Harris we were sold a bag of goods on this Karene Jean-Pierre black and queer, just in case you were wondering. And what we have over on the other side, Team Sanity, is the most authentic individual in the world in President Donald J. Trump. That's what makes it so easy to connect with him.

You know, you've heard me probably say on the show before, my favorite Trump clip ever is when he's in that deposition. E. Jean Carroll's lawyer is cross-examining him, and she's like asking about the locker room talk, the Access Hollywood tape, and she's like, did you say that you can just grab women by the, you know what, and they let you do it, and you're a celebrity? He's like, yes. And she's like, why did you say that? And he's like, well, because it's true. And it's been true for thousands of years, he said, unfortunately, or fortunately. And the left still looks at these moments

and says, oh my God, that's going to do it. That's the end of Trump. And everybody on our side now knows that's only going to make us love them even more. Whether you agree with them, you don't agree, it's irrelevant. It's you love as humor and as authenticity. And that is one of the many reasons we are all, I think, feeling a lot more optimistic about where our country is going in this time of our Lord 2025. So, okay, we'll talk a lot about all these people tonight.

But for right now, I want to talk to you because I never get to talk to you guys. I would love to hear what's on your mind. We have some people in line. We'll do a little Q&A, and then we'll bring out our amazing cast of guests. Thank you all for lining up. Love your shirt. Thank you. Okay, so with both parties divided over what the deep state really is,

from conspiracy theory to real concerns about entrenched power, do you think we'll see true government or media transparency and accountability under Trump's term? and what would it take and how can we get young people involved? True government, sure. We're going to see true government. We're seeing a whole bunch of true government right now. We're seeing more transparency in government than I've ever seen in my lifetime.

Can you believe how many times Trump goes to the mics on a weekly basis? And you've got Corrine Jean-Pierre going out there trying to say, oh, Joe Biden did speak to the people. He was basically the same as Trump. Oh, my God. The reporters in the White House press corps are complaining they can't sleep when they go on overseas trips with Trump because he's constantly awake. They're terrified to fall asleep because the 79-year-old guy up front is definitely going to want to talk to them.

So we have a lot of transparency now. And the media accountability, you're seeing it. They're dying, a slow and painful death in the cable channels and the broadcast channels. And it was self-inflicted. It's a beautiful thing. And for young people, you're doing it. That shirt freedom is an honor to Charlie Kirk and to Turning Point. That organization is going to save the youth of America.

and America itself, but spread the good word because they need helpers. Thank you. Howdy, my name is Benjamin Schrader from Austin, Texas, and I wanted to ask you about political violence. I saw it firsthand in Butler, Pennsylvania. Do you think if we beat the Democrats in the gubernatorial races in New Jersey and Virginia, that maybe they'll pull back on their rhetoric? of violence and division.

Thank you. Do you guys think that? No, I don't think so either. I really think the only way forward. I mean, the true answer to stopping the political violence is we need more faith in our lives. They need to find faith again. You know, I really think, like, our side of the aisle has found faith,

and there's been a renewal in it and a resurgence in it, but we weren't really the ones who needed it to begin with. The left needs to find faith. again and not in their weird cult of wokeness, but in skin color, you know, all of it, the Korean-Jampier thing is a joke, but it's also real. Her side of the aisle really does value those things. They need to find God. They need to find a true religion and something higher than themselves to connect to, which is kind of what stops us all from behaving badly. You know, that sense of moral responsibility and sin and consequences and living a faith-driven

life. So that's the real answer, but I will say what we can do here in addition to trying to spread that is we can speak up. It's what I've been saying all along. The more we speak up about our honest, good faith opinions on these very dicey issues, the more ubiquitous our messaging becomes, and the more they will have to realize they can't get rid of all of us. And what's happening in the wake of Charlie's death with a turning point resurgence, 122,000 chapters versus only 2000 when he was alive, that sends a message too. You know, God rest Charlie, but his legacy is stronger than ever. Thank you. Hey, Megan. My name is David Hillock. I'm here with my wife tonight. From her perspective,

you're the other woman in my life. That's not true. I'm honored. But I want to talk to you a little bit about language. I served in the United States Navy. I don't. Thank you, sir. I don't curse like a sailor, and with a decline in our... I know where this is going. With a decline in our language over the last 30 years or so, I would love to see us be an example of the youth of today by talking without cursing. You're not the first to raise that with me,

but I would say, because I do read all the emails, I have a general understanding that while maybe 15% of the audience feels that way, 85% are with me. I can't help it. I practiced law for 10 years. I come by it honestly. Plus, my nana, who died at 101, she swore like a sailor.

So, I mean, it's like it's an homage, you could argue. Hi there. Hi. I'm a really big fan of yours. Thank you so much for coming to Fort Worth. We're so happy to have you here. Thank you. And I just want to say I was a huge AM still, a huge fan of Charlie's.

My husband, I've probably listened to his podcast ever since started probably back in about 2020, sorry, 20, 2021. And I just loved when you host this, guest hosted his show. Thank you. And it was just incredible. It was devastating to us, obviously. There was a beautiful visual here here in Fort Worth. And my husband and our daughter and I all went to it. but almost as dishearting as his passing,

which was just, I mean, devastating, and was the reaction to the people on the left. I mean, the way that they've been celebrating it and mocking it and using it as kind of a prop in their protests. And that's not something I've ever seen on the right. I mean, I could be wrong, so I stand corrected. But, like, I could never imagine, like,

mocking someone on the left's desk, no matter who they are, because that just sounds disgusting to me. And I just wonder what you think maybe is behind that the left's their behavior because I've never seen like a murder victim which is what Charlie is treated like this. It's a very good question I do think

in part I referenced it a moment ago they've pushed faith out of the public square and out of their lives and they've replaced it with a false god called wokeness which is very dangerous and pernicious and sinful and it's leading them astray I think there are multiple factors I think our isolation

our internet dependency our iPhone dependency the fact that we don't see each other in real life anymore. All of this is driving people apart and to feel extremely lonely. But I also think there's another factor. And it's a bit of a silver lining, but it's coming at a cost. And that is, the left doesn't control every cultural institution anymore. And they're in a bit of a panic.

In the same way you get the dog in the corner and he starts to lash out, they're starting to feel their control slip away. in media, in corporate America, in the halls of power when it comes to politics, and they're in a bit of a panic. You know, that we've changed the messaging on the trans issue, we've changed the message on race, that they completely had total control over back in 2020, 2021. And some found that extremely threatening.

And poor Charlie was in one of the most dangerous places you can go right now, which was a college campus saying all the true things, which was very heroic of him and brave. But I do think those are some of the same. the things, and they do need to be addressed. Thank you. Hello. Hi. Hi. I'm here with my dad. We are just, we talk about you every day. I just have to say.

Thank you. So I'm a 24-year-old Christian, conservative here. And yes, right on. So I see on TikTok and my friends repost things that say, well, I'm liberal. because I'm Catholic. I'm liberal because I'm Christian. And I know that you are a Catholic. And I just want to know your response if your friend said that to you. Well, I'm a liberal. I'm a leftist. I'm a progressive because I'm Catholic. And the common phrases, well, love your neighbor. And so, and I think this mainly pertains to immigration. But what is your response when you hear, see something like that? Well, I feel like they need to read their Bible again.

Yeah. I mean, the biggest thing that the Democrat Party today is known for is its commitment to abortion on demand all the way through the ninth month of pregnancy. Just today in the news, there are two states. New Jersey is one of them. I'm trying to remember what the second one is, Colorado, that are bringing back abortion up to 34 weeks. 34 weeks. I guarantee you there are some women out here listening to this right now who had their babies at 34 weeks or earlier, preemies. That's insane.

There is absolutely nothing faithful, godly, Catholic, Christian. about that, and it's truly like the number one most important platform position of the Democrat Party. Now, the immigration thing, as a Catholic, I have to say, the rhetoric does sound very leftist on that issue. And I really feel like, you know, my church and I disagree on what love thy neighbor means in that respect. But, you know, tell it to the little girls like Jocelyn Nangare, who are getting killed and murdered after being sexually assaulted by these illegals. There's nothing loving your neighbor about letting those people stay here so they can murder Americans.

You know, you want to wait in line and come through the right way. We're open arm to you here in America. We certainly have been. But you want to sneak across that border, violate our laws, and then double down by violating other laws, by hurting our people. You're out. That's completely Christian. God did believe in consequences, and so do we.

So fight the good fight on TikTok for us, would you? As a young person. Hi there. Hi, Megan. My name is Laura Johnson, and I'm from Tulsa, Oklahoma. and in 2024 you were on the Sean Ryan podcast and something you said literally changed my life it was you have to take active steps to change your circumstances you can't wait around for somebody to save you you have to do it get up and do it well this year my mom found out that

she needed a heart transplant and in March well she got diagnosed in March and then by May we were talking transplant, and I had that statement replaying in my head because I had to become her advocate, stand up against insurance, doctors, and drive to Dallas with no appointment and just go and have her seen. Anyway, how do you instill in your children or what would be the advice to be able to recognize when you trust somebody that's higher educated than you are? when you need to take those steps. Thank you for telling me that story. That's so meaningful to me, and I hope your mom's okay.

The way we teach that in our children is we require them to reflect on pretty much everything. So we'll ask them how they did it on a test, not because we really want them to get straight A's, but because if they did poorly, the very next question we asked them is, so what did you learn from that? What was your takeaway? Why did you do so poorly? You know, it's because you didn't care, you didn't understand it, you didn't study, you're not into this class, that's all interesting. Why are you not into it?

Maybe you don't like this kind of class. Maybe this is telling you about the future you. Or maybe you do like it, and you just kind of phoned it in because you wanted to do something else. All right, well, that's telling you something about you, that you might need to address. But we just always encourage them to be reflective about why they're making the decisions they're making. And I think that's a very good skill to arm yourself with, too, right?

Because you can't always know. But it does, like, if you're always questioning, always questioning, I feel like that does put you in a better position when they try to force a vaccine on you, for example, to say, I'm in the habit of questioning, and I'm going to seek out multiple opinions on this, and I'm not just going to defer to experts. And as far as, like, no one's coming to save you, I mean, that is one of my biggest mantras in life. You know, whatever you want to change, you have to do it, just you. not the next person. No one is coming to save you. You want to change your life? You're totally

empowered to do it. And the only thing stopping you is you. Tomorrow, you could be a different person. Literally tonight before you leave here tonight. You could be a totally different person. It's all in your head. And in the decisions you'll make from this point forward. Thank you. Hi. So, I'm, my name is Mercy and I'm 13. And after Charlie got shot, like, I started to kind of wonder, like, what it was going to be like when I grew up and like go to college and stuff like would I be safe and stuff and so like with your kids and stuff like what are your point like what's your point of view on that and like do you have any like tips to kind of not worry about that yes sweetheart thank you marcy i appreciate the question very much and i know you're not alone in feeling that as a young person

or for the parents out there of young people what happened to charlie was absolutely horrific. But the truth is, you have a better chance of being hit by lightning than of having that happen to you. You know, there are far too many mass shootings in America, but they are extremely rare when you look at the number of people who live here. You know, we've got 330 million people in America. Then the media will play up these events, and the Charlie one was unavoidably covered it by everybody. But you still have to keep in mind, like if we covered every single lightning strike that happens in every town across America, you'd be absolutely terrible. of lightning, but the odds of you getting struck by it are so slim that it's a saying,

oh, better chances of getting struck by lightning. So the odds are you're going to make it through your life without ever getting eaten by a shark in the ocean, without ever, God forbid, going down on an airplane, and without ever even being anywhere close to a mass shooting, never mind a targeted one that involves you. You just have to remember that. So fear is a natural reaction to something like this, but just keep perspective on it. And I'll tell you, just as somebody who does have some fear of flying, so many people will tell you things to try to make you feel better about flying. only thing I've ever heard of all the stats they give you, and maybe it'll help some of you who are afraid of flying, is you have a better chance of getting killed by a donkey than you do of going down

in a plane. Okay. I feel better. So you remember that. Lean into the statistics. Thank you, Marcy. God bless. All right, we'll take a couple more, and then we've got to get this thing started. Hi, Megan. Hi there. So we are trying to start a turning point chapter at Weatherford College. great yes and we have lost a lot of we haven't actually had any support from the on-campus ministries like the college ministries shocked and uh so you got any advice for us for that yeah keep trying do not take no for an answer do not take no for an answer and by the way turning point has this thing if you know in some schools you actually can't do it because of some charter or bylaw or whatever they have,

Turning Point has a separate thing that I can't remember what they call. It's like their partners or something like that. But there's another way around it, even if the school says you're not allowed to do that on our campus, there's like a third lily pad that you can jump onto where you're still connected to Turning Point. All the people who wanted to join Turning Point can join this. In other words, they can't stop you.

So don't take no for an answer. It's too important. And Turning Point truly is part of the integral answer to our problem right now. And the only, only way to have our say on the assassin and those who cheered Charlie's murder is to make Turning Point bigger and more powerful than it was ever going to be. So do not take no for an answer. Those people saying no to you didn't understand Turning Point or Charlie. Go ahead, sir. I have to say I'm a little disappointed. My wife said we were coming to see Carrie Underwood.

We love you. Thank you. As an enlisted Marine, I have to disagree with my Navy brother. I love your visceral honesty. It's got to come naturally. I'm a first generation American. I came here because I love America. I listened to the Marine Corps.

I became a citizen. Thank you. But I think we can. I think we can all agree that immigrants don't commit crimes at the same rate as Americans because we wanted to come here because we love America but I think in 2020

things changed it changed a lot and whenever conservatives are trying to say hey this is a problem illegal immigrants you brought up Jocelyn Nongeri illegal immigrants are killing people. They're raping people, and that's a problem.

The left is always trying to say, well, studies show, in other words, studies prove that immigrants are committing crimes at a lower right than Americans. Have you looked at those studies? Do you know the last year that they took data for those studies? I don't, and I don't care. 2020. I mean, my bottom line in response to that has been in this entire time that we've been

arguing over the last five years and beyond, we have to take the Americans. We're stuck with them. Those are our losers. We don't have to take losers from another country. I mean, good Lord, let Venezuelans be Venezuelas problem. So I totally reject that. Bill Maher and I got

into this. And it was like, there's plenty of homegrown imbeciles right here in the United States of America. That's why our prisons are overflowing and our mental institutions, the ones that are still here are overflowing. So, yeah, I have zero tolerance for that.

And by the way, I don't even need to prove that this person has committed an extra crime. You cross the border illegally. Get out. Had it. Thank you. And thank you for your service. All right, we've got to wrap it up

because we've got to get this party started with our guests backstage. I know you're going to love them. I love tonight's lineup. You guys know we're doing Link Lauren, we're doing Mark Halperin, and we're doing Glendek. So here's what we're going to do.

Got a little tiny little sizzle reel, which I'm going to show you one second, but let me just give you one minute on Link, Lauren. Okay, Link came out of nowhere. He's from Dallas. Yeah, he's a hometown boy. And Link started doing social media commentary and just had a special way of, like,

getting up and down in these subjects that grabbed the attention of tons of social media fans. And then the next thing you knew, RFKJ's campaign, found him. And in about two minutes, he became a senior campaign advisor to a presidential candidate with a last name Kennedy. That, of course, didn't wind up going all the way to the end, but Link became a star. And shortly after that, we picked him up for our MK Media Podcast Network, and he now hosts Spot On with Link Lauren, which is crushing it. And Links regularly

at the White House asking President Trump the best questions to the point where every time he asked one, Trump says, I like this guy. I have no idea who that has. hell that is, but I love this guy. And we all feel that way about Link. Check this out. Throughout history, what's the first freedom tyrants try to silence? Religious liberty. Because when your rights come from God, not government, they cannot be taken away. Lose this freedom and you lose America. That's why First Liberty Institute is offering a free guide, America's first freedom, the antidote to tyranny. As we approach America's 250th birthday, learn how to protect, defend, and celebrate this sacred right, just as our founders intended.

Get your free copy today at firstliberty.org slash Megan. That's firstliberty.org slash Megan. Get yours today. Firstliberty.org slash Megan paid for by First Liberty Institute. Identity politics is so past safe. People say, because of how you are, you should think a certain way, vote a certain way, you should do this. Hell no, I'm going to vote from my best interest and do what I want. And this is why Trump won in a historic landslide, because he said enough is enough with

the woke nonsense. The thing with Megan Markle is, it was like watching a woman in an insane asylum, but they're letting her kind of do arts and crafts where she can't hurt herself. AOC is not excellent. She's not a genius. Ted Kennedy didn't just hire her years ago to be his intern because she was so brilliant. She has big breast, cute face. She's Latina. She has no accomplishments. Jill Biden, and she is going to go down as one of the most unlikable women in politics. She is like the Regina George of Washington, D.C. This is like senior citizen mean girls. People say, you're gay, you should support kids transitioning. I'm gay, not brain dead. I have common sense. These No King's protests are literally

therapy sessions for deranged liberals with Trump derangement syndrome. In the way some of these women look, they should call this no shower, no deodorant, no razor. Some of these women, Bush is back in office, okay? It's looking a little jungle boogie, not women's. Liglorn, everyone. Woo-hoo! Hi, thank you for having me. I'm great to have you. So exciting.

I'm so excited. How are we doing tonight, Dallas, Forward? I have to say, I'm so humbled that you, Megan, and all of these people showed up for me tonight. Thank you so much. It is all about you. You are right. I also am not sure how to sit, you guys. For weeks, I've been wondering, okay, do I do the J.D. Vance

sort of manspread? Do I do the Barack Obama, Gavin Newsome kind of bait a meal? I'm going to look at it on the chair. I like the Barack Obama. Let me see the man spread. The man spread. I think too much is Sharon Stone and basic instinct. So I think I'll do kind of

in between tonight. Completely. Now, did you hear my comments on J-Lo. Oh, on J-Lo, how she can't be loved. She's unlovable. We actually have the soundbite. I'm going to let you see it, and that's where we're going to kick it off. Here it is.

Here's J-Lo. Here's J-Lo. Do you think you've truly been loved? No. No. And do you think you really have experienced loving someone? Yes. You have?

Yeah. And when you can't get that love back... What I learned, it's not that I'm not lovable, is that they're not capable. They can't love. They don't have it in them. They need to appreciate the little. person inside of there. They have little to love them.

Yeah. You've been in relationship with you. And they gave me what they had. Right, but it's not enough. They gave me all of it. Every time. But it's this much. All the rings, all the things I could ever want. Right. Trying to give me the houses, the rings, the marriage, all of it. But... They didn't love you. They didn't.

And didn't know you. And I didn't love myself. Oh, the acting, the drama. I have to say, I know Howard has gone very woke, but that was a stroke of genius. because he knows what a fool she sounds like there. He's walking her right into it. He's done a million of these celebrity interviews. Only she thinks he's sincere

and is actually searching to understand her love history. And the nerve, the nerve of this woman to say none of them was capable of actually loving me. Well, she reminds me of that friend who always blames everyone else for their problems. Like, you always have a problem with someone else. You might be the problem, Jennifer Lopez. And let's be honest, she's been passed around

like a hot potato for years. Okay, she's been engaged and married. then she gets engaged to the same guy. I mean, they literally call her Ginny from the block. I don't think that's a compliment. You know what I'm saying? So I think she's the problem. She might be the issue.

All right, I got another one for you. Okay. Kim Kardashian is in the news. Forgive me. I try not to never say her name. But she's in the news because she came out on her the show with an admission that she has a brain aneurism. And it's a sympathy ploy.

Like, oh, my God, I have a brain aneurysm. you know, something's going to happen to me, and I'm so worried. Well, it turns out they taped this episode long before it actually hit air. And from the time, she tried to get everybody worked up on her new victimhood status, because we know this is such a currency. She showed up in New York City for the launch of her Skim's partnership with Nike. She went to that fashion show overseas where she had panty hose all over her face. She's been on virtually every red carpet known to man.

She's been doing talk shows. She's been doing comedy shows. there's really no stopping her from her public appearances. And as it turns out, the brain aneurysm is like some teeny tiny little vein thing that virtually everybody has, and it's really not a big deal. It just needs to be monitored from time to time. She just played it up because she, like so many of these celebrities, wants to lean into victimhood status.

So your thoughts on whether we should be moved by Kim's story. I always had a brain aneurysm watching when she was selling the Merkins last week. When she was selling those fake bush panties, I'm like, I'm too gay for this. I will say she did have like a red curly one for a little orphan Annie. I thought that was generous. She had a red one for Lindsay Lohan. I thought that was nice. But yeah, no, Kim Kardashian.

I mean, I have to say, having grown up in the 70s, I don't remember ever going that far. I said Bush is back in office, honey, with that. Anheuser Bush, Jenna Bush, Hager. Okay, there was a lot of Bush going on. So, no, I don't give a shit about Kim Kardashian. I think, honestly, Kim Kardashian, you guys, She has built a career and made billions of dollars off of giving women body dysmorphia. When Kim came into the game, everybody had to get a big ass.

So girls went out there and they put themselves in harmful situations to get big asses. They went to foreign countries. They got injections. Now while the Kardashians are on Ozimic, what are those girls supposed to do from around the way? Who went and got big asses? So, yeah, they've just built this career off of giving women body dysmorphia. And then with the fake bush panties. So you spend millions of dollars on laser hair removal.

to just drop a mercant? That's a scam right there. That's a scam. And a scandal, really. It's true. Now she's got sheets over her head like freaking Islam or something. I don't know what's going on with her.

Oh, it's all the rage in New York City. Let's talk about Michelle Obama. Michelle Obama just... I know you're all watching her podcast. You're the ones. Michelle Obama wants you to feel very sorry for her because it's very hard being Michelle Obama. Everybody wants a

piece of Michelle. It's very hard to be so famous. Michael. Big Mike. That's what they're saying. I will say she might have more testosterone than me that bitch, honestly. She might be packing more than me that whore. Okay, so she's upset because it's hard to be so famous. And she's upset because it was very expensive to live in the White House. They had to pay for their own food. Who has to pay for their own food? What kind of world is this? And just as soon as you start working up your sympathy glands from Michelle Obama, you see her just recently out on Steven Spielberg's yacht cruising around the Mediterranean while she literally wants you to feel sorry for her. So do you? No, do I feel sorry for Michelle Obama? Hell no.

I have this place where I send women, I call the unbearables, the insufferables. I send them in my mind to a place called Bitch Island. Okay, I want to send Michelle Obama to Bitch Island, Megan Markle, Kathy Griffin. That's where I send them in my mind. The women of the view, they could host the show on Bitch Island. But Michelle Obama, right, she comes from humble beginnings. And it's always the people who say they came from humble beginnings that forget so quickly. Like she says she grew up on the south side of Chicago.

she's around the way girl. She's Michelle from the block. She's Michelle from the block. But then she's like, can you believe I had to pay for my own caviar in the White House? And I'm like, what? People are starving. We have an invasion at the border. I can't even take her seriously, Michelle Obama, but it's always this victim card. And I think on the left, these Democratic elites have realized playing the victim card is profitable. It gets you views. It gets people tuning in. But we're just all tired of it. We're so tired of it. Is Katie Porter on Bitch Island? No, I am Katie Porter's number one fan. Now, I need her to do more interviews with the Helga Octoberfest haircut.

I need Katie Porter. I'm not in a position to a pine on hair. I get it. But listen, Katie Porter, that woman, she looks like those women in the circus who could, like, lift 500 pounds, Katie Porter. He's not wrong. Right. So I need Katie Porter out there more. I'm really into her.

The more interviews, the better with Katie Porter, right? 100%. Keep her talking, like Kamala Harris. keep her on the road every time she opens her mouth. It's a gift. It's a gift to us. She might. We have news about that. We'll talk about it in a minute with Mark Halper and Kamalaura standby. So yeah, I love Katie Porter because I, like, the funny thing for me in watching all those clips is I understood her anger. Like when the staffer got in the back of the shot, you know, I was like, get out of the fucking shot! The person was in the shot. I

would have been like, Abby, get out of there. But I would have said it lovingly, you know, harshly lovingly, there's a way. You shouldn't swear at your employees is a bad habit. On camera. Yeah. But now the ex-husband's coming out on camera. That's always bad. The ex-husband's now coming out saying, she's a master manipulator. And now I'm like, all right, well, this is getting a little really interesting, but also untoward, because should we really be taking the ex-husband's word? I do, but should we be? Oh, God, I don't have any ex-husbands in the audience tonight, do I? No, I don't know if we should take his word. I heard that she poured a scalding caldron of potatoes on his head, and that's when I knew I loved her. When I

poured a scalding cauldron of potatoes on her husband's head, I said, oh, this woman's interesting. Allegedly. Allegedly. Kamala Harris, I hear you've been enjoying her book tour. Is it just me, or is Kamala Harris' book tour going longer than the campaign? Like, it's going longer, and longer, and longer, and longer. And I have these nicknames for Kamala. I call her Cabernet Kamala. I call her Kamalamity. I think the sequel... Yeah, I think the sequel to 107 days should be 12 steps. Maybe. I think Bill W could be the co-author, and if that offended you, call your sponsor. You can do the foreword. Yeah, you can do the foreword.

But yeah, no, Kamala Harris, I hope this book tour continues. I want her to run. And what's interesting, in this book, Kamala Harris talks about choosing her running mate. And she says, I did not choose Pete Buttigieg because he was gay. And I thought, okay, you don't choose Pete Buttigieg. judge because he's gay. But then you choose Tim Walls, the gayest man in captivity. Okay. Tim Walls. Tim Walls, Mr. Jazz Hands, he walks into every room like Bob Fossy. Okay, sorry to get heated. But Tim Walls, this man with a questionable internet search history. Okay, I was speaking to a room of gays last week. I was speaking to a room of gay Republicans. Ruma gays. Yeah. I said, who do you think has slept with more men? Everyone in this room combined or Tim Walls. Okay. There is

something going on there. And they said, we chose Tim Walz because he's the pinnacle of masculinity. I said, no, Michelle Obama is in your party. Not Tim Walz. He could use a few more testosterone. I mean, really, like, the thing with a camo hat was too much. When he couldn't load the gun, I mean, you people down

in Texas must have been horrified. We were down in Texas, Doug and I about a couple years ago with a bunch of friends, and we were going to go motorbike riding, like a dirt bike riding in the woods. It was like midnight. It was dark. We were going up to the woods. There were like 15 of us on these motorbikes. And it was summer. So everybody had on shorts and his t-shirt. And our host looked around and he says, is anybody carrying? I'm like, carrying, we're wearing like tiny shirts and shirts. Literally every man was like, I am, I am, I am, I am.

Like, I'm in Texas. I'm not in New York anymore. Yeah, I think some of my... I never felt so safe in my life. If anyone tries to F with us tonight, we got some... Texas patriots in the audience. I think we're good. I think we're good. God bless Texas. Don't mess with it.

Although they are trying to mess with it. What's with Austin? Yeah. Yeah. I don't get it. I see my MAGA ladies on the front row right here. I got my Trump ladies. Now, who did you vote for in the Trump hat?

I love it. I mean, we did get Jasmine Crockett. Oh, y'all heard of this woman, Jasmine Crockett? Okay. Jasmine Crockett, to me, is just appealing to the lowest common denominator at this point. I mean, she's become one of the most uncouth and articulate women in politics, and it's all a caricature. It's all a facade with Jasmine Crockett. When you look up her background, right, she grew up in St. Louis.

She went to private school. She says she passed the bar exam. I don't know if she was sitting at a bar or if she actually passed the bar exam. I would like to see proof. Yeah. She says she's an attorney, Jasmine Crockett. You pull up these old videos of her. She's talking like Eliza Doolittle or Queen Elizabeth.

She's like, how do you do? Would you like crumpets and scones? You look up Jasmine Crockett now. She's like, this motho cracklecky, boca, picka, picka, pricka. What the hell happened to Jasmine Crockett? This is identity theft, okay? It's identity theft. But the Democrats, okay, this is why I can't stand the Democrats.

We got some characters on the right. We love Trump. We've got big personalities. But the Democrats are a bunch of overgrown theater kids. They don't want to work. They want to twerk and post dancing videos. and sing. And the Democrats in D.C., okay, they're always breaking into song on the Capitol Steps. They're running and dancing. They remind me of that show Glee. Remember that show Glee where

they're running and singing and dancing and there's no plot? That is the Democrat Party today. The Rapid Response Choir. Yes, exactly. Nothing terrifies Trump more than the rapid response choir. No, and you've got all these beta males like Chuck Schumer and Hakeemeyer and Corey Booker. It's just beta mail, beta mail, beta mail. Oh, speaking of Corey Booker, what did the gays say about Cory Booker? Well, my lawyer has told me not to opine on that tonight. He was knocking on my dressing room doors.

Remember those engagement photos that hit of him and his fiancé? We're joyful. We're definitely really in love. I was going to say they look like Michelle and Baroque's engagement photos, so maybe it's true love. Unclear. All right. So I did read in my, in my, you know,

following of Spot On, that you are really happy for George Clooney, who has found Italy just too tough an environment in which to raise his children at Lake Como is really unfortunate, I guess, and now has moved to France because he wants his kids to grow up in a place that's not obsessed with celebrity culture. Absolutely, Megan. And I know this will resonate with a lot of folks in the audience tonight. People in Texas, Arizona, Florida, they talk about this all the time. These liberals in states like California, they vote for every Democratic candidate, it. They shill for Gavin Newsom, Kamala Harris. The second those policies come home to roost and they've got homelessness and crime running amok on the streets, they flee. They move

to red states and then they bring their policies to the red states. You're fleeing these blue states to come to red states and you're bringing the same policies. We've had it. Okay, we've had it. Yeah. And that's with George Clooney as well. Completely agree. He's such a charlatan. He's dying to be a journalist. He's not a journalist. He's got a lot of thoughts about journalism. He of the left. He wants to be hailed as a hero because he wrote that one op-ed telling Joe Biden to drop out after the debate when we all knew he was totally infirm. He's like, aha, I have a big reveal for you. We're like, we already saw the end of this movie. No, Megan, these Democrats got kudos and bona fides for saying, you know,

Joe Biden might be in decline. And this is like fall of 2024. The Mars rover could see that Joe Biden was in decline, okay? Like these Democrats are writing opets. Y'all are so brave. Oh, you're just so brave calling out Joe Biden. I'm like, the guy is non-composementist. He's walking off into bushes, we can see with our own eyes what's happening. Yes, we did not need George Clooney's op-ed. Now, the one person, I think it would be the worst. I mean, like, I would work for Katie Porter before I'd work for this person, has to be Megan Markle. She literally just lost her 10th head of publicity in, I think it's three years since she opened her little as ever business or whatever she's calling it these days. She cannot.

keep a staff. All of the people writing bios on her talk about what a nightmare she is, how nasty she is. She's smart enough not to get caught on camera. Get out of there, you fucking bitch! She's smart enough not to do that like Katie Porter. But she's apparently even meaner than her because she cannot keep anyone in her employ. And she continues to try to mislead us into believing she's got this Netflix series deal, even though season two was a fake. It was just an extension of season one that she tried to spin as a second season. And now she's trying to spin what's been changed into like, and we want a third season into, we'll take a first look, as though that's like a victory, like a promotion. No, first look is like,

you can tell them that we made you a first look deal. No, Megan Markle, these two little hucksters over in Montecito, I cannot stand them, okay? I call her the Duchess of Scamelot, the Duchess of White Castle, and my thing with Megan Markle is this. She is still dining out on her Royal Highness title. She's been gone six years. You know what I'm saying? She's still dining out to sell her jams, jellies, and dog biscuits and whatever other crap she's selling. But my thing with Megan Markle is this. I gave her the benefit of the doubt. There are so many of us who were excited. This American girl is going to marry this ginger prince, the most eligible bachelor on earth. She goes in there. She can't stand it but more than six months. They abscond to

the U.S. And in the Queen's final dying days, what does she do? She goes and accuses them all of racism. She shanks them. She stabs them in the back. And they welcomed her with open arms. So I never respect Megan Markle for that. That's not how you treat people who welcomed you with open arms. It gave you a life and a career. Come on. She's not a good person. How long do we give that marriage? Oh God, maybe 45 more minutes. We'll check after the show. It's not going to be long. All right, so tell us a little bit about you, Link, because your political rise has been rapid and really impressive. And it was because the RFKJ campaign found you, right? It was your own talents that got you noticed. Well, thank you. And can I just say, I'm on stage with

Megan Kelly right now. This is really cool. I was on her show the first time one year ago this month, okay, and they passed on me. Megan might not even know this. I had people reaching out, hey, you guys should have link. I would send cold emails. I said, if we can meet, we will hit it off. So be tenacious people out there. Because now I'm on the tour. I did not know that. Yeah, that is true. So with RFK, with Bobby, I was making videos about all the primary candidates in the spring of 23 on TikTok. And I said, there's this guy. His name's RFK Jr. He's running as a Democrat at the time. His dad was attorney general. His uncle was president. Here's what he stands for and what he believes.

I didn't know all the drama over COVID. I didn't know all the past history. And my video started getting this huge reaction. When Bobby's daughter-in-law, Amarillis, took over the campaign, Emerilis Kennedy, she reached out to me. They said, are you going to be in Los Angeles on June 23rd? I lied and said yes and booked an economy ticket. That's my number one thing. If you have kids out there, tell them just book the flight and show up. Lie. So I go to the house.

It's good to remember. Lie. Yeah, I'll give you the guys the clip notes. I go to the house. I get pat down by security. I'm introduced to Bobby. I don't know he's that much of a rock star because, like I said, I missed all the COVID stuff. He immediately starts in on me, we need help with social media.

We've got this guy and this guy. And what's your number? What's your number? So I give him my number. He's like, I'm calling you. I'm calling you. Is it going through? I said yes.

So because I'm me, I kind of hung out at the house and mingled with the family and I'm playing with the dogs. I run into him in the kitchen like an hour later. Have you sent me your information? I was like, no, Bobby, I'll do it, I'll do it. He goes, why are you so slow? And so over the course of the next few weeks, I thought I have his number. I'm going to send him some ideas. I'd see something in the news.

I would text him, I would call him, which I know sounds crazy. But I would text him, I'd call him with some ideas. And his daughter-in-law finally said, you know what, we'll hire you. And do you want to open for Bobby on October 9th when he leaves the Democratic Party? I said, I'm scared, but yes, I will do it. And they hired me off at TikTok. And I had one friend who'd been in politics for 20 years. I only knew one person.

I said, what do I ask for? And she's like, ask for the world. Because if you don't get it, you can maybe work on another campaign. So they said, what do you want your title to be? I said, I want to be a senior advisor to R.K. Jr. Your advisor. And they said, we can make that happen. And I ended up being the only surrogate, I think, on cable.

and doing a lot of the shows, and the campaign wound down. I was one of the main people pushing him, pushing him to endorse Trump to an annoying degree. I was like, you've got to endorse Trump. And how did that go? How did that go, guys? That seriously made a huge difference. It may have made the difference in getting Trump over the edge, and obviously he was rewarded for it.

Have you ever seen a positive article about RFKJ in the news at all? Anywhere. Only from your website. Yes, literally, I think we're the only ones. Well, it's interesting because you talk about this, too, how he has the highest net favorability. He had the highest net favorability of anyone in 23. We were looking at Quinnipiac polls and Harvard Harris polls. He was so beloved by people all across the political spectrum. There was like this inverse relationship. If MSNBC hated you,

the American people with common sense and their heads, you know, screwed on straight, they liked you. Yeah. And so we just sort of ran with that and we didn't really care. And he's so used to getting nothing but negative press, it doesn't really phase him at all. He doesn't care. Those are the only kind of people we can have in the Trump administration. Nobody else will work. What did you make a Cheryl's book tour? I think Cheryl's

really coming into her own. I love Cheryl. I think she's finding her voice in D.C. The first time I met Cheryl, I went over to Bobby's house. We were all going to car band to some event

in like Costa Mesa, California. There wasn't a dead bear on top of the roof, was there? No, there was a dead bear in the car. Well, that's what I'm saying. People bring up scandals all the time. I'm like, honey, we've been through hell. That was nothing.

You know, Cheryl Hines' book tour, I think, is going so well. The first time I met her, I'm a huge fan of curb your enthusiasm. We all meet at his house because we didn't have a ton of money. There's no campaign headquarters. So we met at his house in Brentwood. She's in the kitchen making coffee and breakfast, in pajamas with her hair and a bun. Couldn't have been the nicest. She's so nice and so genuine. I'm happy for her. Yeah, me too. They're really sweet and she's definitely

rooting for him. And honestly, like, he needs the support because he, I talked to a lot of the people in the administration, people who are running big, important agencies. And the one thing I'm seeing common across the board is they are committed to the job. but they are getting undermined from within. You know, it's not just the press and the media that's against them. Like, you know, deep state, whatever you want to call it. It's across agencies where they're getting undermined from within. So you actually do have to have the kind of spine Bobby Kennedy has if you're going to make it.

Otherwise, you're going to piece out of there. I mean, I'm not going to break my NDA, but I can tell you in private and in public, he does not care about the negativity and the hate and the attacks. He knows he's in this mission. if he can help even one kid with a chronic disease or chronic diabetes. I mean, our people are sicker than ever before, okay? So let's say the guy's not perfect. The way we've been doing things politics as usual is not going to be able to continue.

So let's get someone in there to try and give a chance and try something new because we're the sickest people. And that's not what the American, what the United States of America is supposed to be about. And it's working. We're having massive changes happen at HHS, at FDA, across the board, and some new changes in announcements are coming soon. I have it on good authority. Link, we love you. Thank you so much. You're the greatest. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you so much. Link Lauren, everybody. Yes. Go forward. You're so lucky you can hang out with Link wherever you want. He lives with you.

You can see why we hired him, right? Yeah. Got a lot of people who wanted to be part of MK Media. and there were a few who rose to the top immediately we knew we wanted. And that includes my next guest. Mark Halperin has basically run pretty much every news organization of respect that you've ever heard of over the past 30 years. From Time Magazine, and he was a contributor at MSNBC back before they lost their minds. MSNBC back like when I started at Fox in 2004, used to be normal. When Dan Abrams was running it, they were like normal.

Their commitment was to doing regular news. It wasn't to doing hard left stuff. and Mark was there for many years. And then he rose to the top of ABC News, running all politics there and news coverage and was sort of the god of that. Then eventually became the executive producer and creator of the show, The Circus, on Showtime.

There's a lot that you have consumed in the news media that you may not even realize started at the hand of Mark Halperin and his good reporting or his instincts to send reporters out to go get the story, and he is totally and utterly fearless when doing that. He, as you may remember, was the reporter who broke that Joe Biden was not going to make it, that he was going to be stepping down. He was one of the few who sat on MSNBC on election night 2016 saying, there is a very clear path for Donald Trump to win this when everyone around him had their jaws dropped and looked at him like he had three heads saying, what are you talking about, you moron?

And he stuck to his guns. he's an honest, great reporter. Here's a little look at Mark Halperin. And when you are buried in credit card and loan debt, it's human nature to put it off and say, I will deal with this later. If that's you, here's something you need to consider. Okay, just give me 30 seconds to consider the following.

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before they sell out. Megan Kelly.com. Presented by Y. Refai and Sirius XM. This is a massive story. Democrats are in support from voters of color, from younger voters. Massive. The Democrats are still addicted to two things, hating Trump, and they're addicted to being protected by the legacy media. They're still afraid of the the party. They're afraid to go there. CBS News has been somewhere between irrelevant and a joke. They've been way too liberal and they've not been part of the conversation. I'm hungry. I could use some salad. I've got it for you right here. One of the reasons I wrote this book, Rachel, is there are actually a number of reasons. Please, I would like a light vinaigrette. Charlie must be demonized

in death because he's close to Trump because that's the only way they'd think. They don't know what a threat he is. He was literally an historic figure, but they don't know. It's just like they've underestimated MAGA for 10 years. I think this could change the entire midterms. Yeah. Mark Halper, everybody. Come on, Mark. Woo!

They simply don't. them like this anymore. I'm sorry, but if any news organization out there actually wanted to save itself, they'd be on their knees, offering Mark billions of dollars to come in and try to do something to save them. But they won't because they still think they know best.

Little self-conscious for two reasons. Number one, don't know how to sit because of Link. That's what Link was saying, yeah. Yeah, well, because the Link. I probably wouldn't have thought about it. How do we feel about how he is in it? Is this good? I've got my Texas boots on it. Oh, nice. Okay. Okay. When I wear these in New York, they say I'm swaggering.

When I hear them here, they just say I'm walking. But the other reason I'm uncomfortable is I'm afraid I'm going to use profanity. And we already got chastised by that. Yeah. I mean, 15% of you, according to Megan's research, would hate it. Well, it was a request. It wasn't like a mandate. I'm going to do my best.

I don't think he's going to turn and walk out. I'm going to do my best. But if Governor Pritzker comes up, all bets are off. Oh. Note to self. Yeah. Anyway, but thank you for the very nice introduction. You read it just the way I wrote it, which I appreciate.

Good like that. We mentioned with Link, Jasmine Crockett. Now, there's news on Jasmine Crockett today. Her district is, her house seat has basically been eliminated thanks to redistricting. And she, oh, stand by. She's now threatening to torture us some more by possibly running for Senate. Yeah. So all of you can be represented.

by her. Not just someone. How do we like her chances? Not great, although, you know, it's hard to say that any Democrat running statewide in Texas has a great chance because we're looking at several decades of failure. But she could be the nominee. Really? She could be, yeah. I think so. How? I mean, the people she's running against are, I would say, at the same level of credibility. I feel like she's not going to get forthworth. No. But she could in the primary. Yes, okay. So do you think she has a long career in politics ahead of her? I mean, she's not going to win statewide office in Texas, but, you know, she can continue to run. Well, that'll be fun to watch. And speaking of that, Kamala Harris, gave an interview to the BBC and has officially opened the door to another presidential run, saying it's possible.

And, quote, I'm not done yet. That's as close as we've heard her come to saying I'm doing it. So when I heard that, there's a guy named Mo Udahl from Arizona, a member of Congress who ran for president. And he was not that good as a candidate, but he told funny jokes about running. And he said, he walked into a barbershop in New Hampshire and said, I'm running for president. And the people in the barbershop looked at each other and said, yeah, we were just laughing about that the other day. That's what I think about when I think about this, because it's very hard to find anyone, including if you talk to her own donors who are enthusiastic about her running again. So she can say it, she can think about it, but it's a pretty big precipitous fall to go from the vice president and nominee to where I think she is now, which is she's down in terms of support to paid staff and close relatives. That's about it.

Well, I mean, what's interesting is we mentioned Katie Porter in the last segment. Katie Porter, the reason she was subjected to some mildly challenging questions is because it's a primary. but the odds are if Katie Porter were, if this were like a two-party state, and you had the Democrat nominee and the Republican nominee, and she had gotten the Democratic nomination, no reporters would have laid a glove on her because that's not what the media does with Democrats. That's why she was so shocked when she got pressed at all.

Like she was like, what is this? The fix is supposed to be in. But it's because she's in the primary process. And Kamala Harris didn't have to go through that in 2024, but she would if she did throw her hat in the ring this time around. And I do think the media would treat her very, differently. What do you think? Oh, I think they definitely would. And she'd not only have to answer questions, she'd have to raise money, she'd have to go talk to voters face to face. She'd have to do

all the things that she tried to do in 2020 when her campaign was a failure. So, again, she's welcome to run, of course, but I just don't see how she can do anything that's required in the early phase. So if she walks up to the line and looks at it, I think she'll back away from the edge. I really hope she does it. I'm praying to God she does it. I miss the Venn diagrams, and And just like her, you know, look it going to win. I miss it. I really could use a hefty dose of Kamala Harrison in my daily news consumption because I was never so happy as when she was there. Then she added Tim Walls.

It got so much better. I think we underestimated those days. Let's pledge that if she runs, you and I will go cover an early event together. Yes. Let's go. Show up and see what happens. We'll just follow her on the campaign trail. One person we may actually be following is, you mentioned him, Governor J.B. Pritzker.

of Illinois. Yeah. So this guy, same. This guy had the temerity to go on with Brett Baer, my old pal at Fox News, and Brett asked him, which was, you know, with respect to Brett, a kind of obvious question, which is about the crime rate in Illinois, where they have the number one murder rate in the country. This is the list you do not want to be on the top of.

And we actually have the soundbite. Here is how that went. Why does Chicago have the highest murder rate of all the big cities? Well, we are not in the top 30 in terms of our murder rate. Indeed, our murder rate has been cut in half over the last four years, and every year it's gone down by double digits. And if you look at all of the violent crime over the last four years, they've all gone down.

Most populous U.S. cities, 17.47 per 100,000 population. Chicago is number one over Philadelphia, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Phoenix. Phoenix, Los Angeles, New York, and San Diego. What I'm explaining to you is when you want to fight crime, look, you can pull statistics up. No, no, these are murders. I'm explaining to you that our murder rate has been cut in half. And very importantly, Brett, and you've got to hear this.

Very importantly, we've been doing the things that are necessary to bring crime down, right? We've invested in community violence interruption. We've invested in police. Thoughts on that? I mean, the craziest thing about it is I think he probably walked in the green room and his staff high-fived him. And this is why I was worried about using profanity. I do not get why he's considered a presidential candidate.

He's got a failed record. He's a billionaire, so that's why they, I guess, part of it. But you go on to Brett's show, you're auditioning. You're saying to people, I'm ready for prime time. He goes on. He's stuttering. He's lying. He's not driving any positive message.

So if that was the audition, I don't believe he'll get a call back. How does he think he can get away with that? that's a knowable thing what the murder rate of Chicago is, and it is far in excess of the number two city. We all know this. They do absolutely nothing to stop it. I have been to the south side of Chicago. It's genuinely scary. They will kill each other just for crossing over into the wrong block. The one block is controlled by a black gang. The next block is controlled by a Hispanic gang, and mothers live in fear that their kids are not going to have it figured out. A lot of these boys are fatherless. Like, that community has been totally abandoned.

by J.B. Pritzker and the left entirely. They won't even acknowledge this. They think it's all black men dying at the hands of racist white cops. So once again, you actually see the live example of him ignoring it. The only thing I can think of is he's inspired by George Kstands on Seinfeld, where George quit, but then pretended he didn't. He's just going to brazen his way through and say, no, no, no, those aren't the stats. And again, if you're going to do sit with Brett or with you or with me, like prepare. This is not a normal interview. where they're just going to ask easy question and move on. So I say again, if that's the way he thinks he can approach a big interview,

tripling down on saying he's not going to be a serious candidate, the way he appears to triple down on cheeseburgers. Although clearly he's on the shot. Do we agree that Pritzker's on the shot right now? Or suddenly he's developed iron discipline. He is totally on the shot. I think it's smart because you cannot be a morbidly obese presidential candidate. Like it doesn't work.

You have to be kind of tall, and you have to be on the thin side. You can be a little hefty, but you cannot be morbidly obese like he was a couple months ago. They have an inordinate number in their field of short and or fat candidates.

So they have to figure that out. There's a shot for the fat. There's not much for the short. Lifts. It's part of being a Democrat. Texas boots, but that's only one more inch. Okay, so not, if not Pritzker and not Harris, then who?

Every cycle I've covered, and I've covered everyone since 88, at this point in the cycle, I could tell you who I think is going to be nominated and who I think the next two are. This is roulette. There's really not a strong candidate in this field, and it's not a matter of being biased against them because I'm not. It's not a matter of it's too soon to evaluate because the people who win the presidency are touted as great candidates forever. With the exception of Joe Biden, everyone who's won has been touted in the modern era has been touted as that person probably someday be a great candidate for

president. Both Bushes, Clinton, Obama, Trump. There's no one like that. There's no one. So my grandfather grew up in a Polish village, and he was 5'6, but he was the tallest man in the village. So someone will be the tallest man or woman in the village, but they're going to be 5.6. Yes. Now let's talk about GOP. Is it JD? Because whenever Trump, gets asked this question. He says, yeah, J.D., yes, or Marco. He always throws Marco in who we love, but is there realistically any way that Marco gets it over J.D.? Let's do a survey of the audience. I'm going to ask you all to vote by show of hands. If you're uncomfortable voting in front of the others, you can close your eyes as you vote.

Raise your hand if you'd like J.D. Vance to be the nominee. Raise your hand if you'd like it to be open and someone else can be considered. Okay. Next to no one, right? So there's never been, just as there's never been a field as formless and as weak as the Democrats, at least in my career, there's never been a situation like this. Incumbent Vice President. Bush 41, Reagan's Vice President. Not only did Reagan not endorse him until after the nomination fight was over, but literally at the endorsement event, you can go watch it on YouTube on C-SPAN. He called him, I'm here to endorse my vice president, George Bosch, so he mispronounced his name. Oh.

Clinton, Gore wanted to run. Clinton made his life miserable. They wouldn't let him do anything. When Biden was vice president, Obama said, sorry, I'm endorsing Hillary. We've never had an incumbent vice president with the full support to do all the things he does. Overseas trips, domestic trips, political operation, finance chair of the Republican National Committee. So for those of you, few, many, who raised your hand about wanting J.D. Vance, I think he'll be endorsed by Trump. I think he may run as a ticket with Rubio.

I don't think anybody... Could we be that lucky? I don't think anybody will run against him. And I think on the current trajectory, the Democrat nomination process will start in January of 28. I think on New Year's Day, he will have $2 billion in the bank. Wow. And no opposition. So does that mean he'll be the next president?

No, but he's the odds on favor to not only be the nominee, but to be the next president today. How does it happen? because, you know, Trump has carefully not said it yet, so how does it happen? I mean, not yet. It's 20-25, right? So how has it happened? I think Trump also doesn't like anybody else to be the star or the story. He doesn't at all, but Jay DeVance has many skills. It's kind of an incredible story, like how many months ago, 14 months ago at the Republican Convention, President Bush, Trump gets shot on a Saturday night. He hasn't paid. picked his running mate yet, or it hasn't announced it. And on Monday, Sunday and Monday, I'm

talking to my sources in Milwaukee about the president being shot, but also about the running made pick. And very senior people in the Republican Party, rather than saying, I can't say anything negative about anything because we're so upset about President Trump, are practically literally grabbing my lapel saying, please use whatever influence you have to stop J.D. Vance from being picked. Stop him, right. That's 14 months ago. Today, he doesn't have an enemy I can find on Capitol Hill in the administration. And you're right, the President Trump doesn't normally like being upstage, but JD's careful not to. And what does President Trump like? He likes success. What else does he like? He likes people who go on with George Stephanopoulos and

rings them, right? He loves it. He loves it. So I don't know when he'll pull the trigger and endorse, but again, supported by Don Jr., supported by Tucker, supported by lots of people in the administration. So when does he do it? If I had to get it? I'd say probably right after the midterms. Right after the midterms. Is that soon? Well, a year from now. Yeah, but that's kind of soon.

Yeah. But I just, I just, I don't see how he avoids endorsing him. I just don't see it. And I don't see anybody thinking they could beat him in a primary. Yeah, that's right. Just don't see it. There are a lot of folks in the administration who are auditioning daily thinking that they might get the role or they might get selected as VP that maybe it's not Marcos.

Is that realistic? Do you think, like, one of the women potentially? Maybe. There's a name I've heard a lot lately. particularly if the economy is not doing as well as they would like. Ladies and gentlemen, how do you feel about Vice President Scott Bessent? They don't feel that great about it. Not that great about it.

I've heard that lately, and Scott Besson is an ambitious guy. But I think it'll be Marco, but, again, current trajectory. I think it'll be Marco, too. But, you know, the Trump administration has Christy Nome. They have Tulsi. and they have Pam Bondi. Yeah. And I have been told that all three are very ambitious.

Yeah. Is there any chance? One of those? Runs for president or vice president? Well, no, but rests the number two spot away. Yeah, I'd add Sarah Huckabee into that too. Yeah. I mean, there's more of a chance than the Jim Carrey, you're saying there's a chance chance.

Yeah, yeah. But I just think Rubio is such a star in this administration. and he and he in he and he's doing everybody's job yeah yeah so i mean i don't feel as certain about that but but again i just think he's the odds on favorite so if the democrat party is in such disarray which i think we both agree it is why do they have any shot at winning them in turds well first of all there's just not that many seats in play right history is on their side in the sense that the president's party typically doesn't do well in the midterms and uh There's, you know, 20 races in the House and seven races in the Senate that will decide it.

I would say at this point in the cycle, as the out party, they have less of a chance to do well than typical by a lot. But they have history and they have just, what it's the word, idiosyncratically in some of these races, they have a decent chance. But I don't think they would be particularly bullish if the economy is good. I think that's the big variable that we can't say right now. So let's do another survey. Raise your end if the economy is doing well. Okay. It's mattering.

Yeah. So that's today. Even President Trump, who normally every day is the greatest day of ever because he's president, even he doesn't say the economy's great now. He says it'll be great next year. Yeah, he doesn't want to see him out of touch. Yeah. And they don't know that it's going to be.

The tariffs have caused a lot of uncertainty. And it's funny. The market's obviously doing very well. uh, employment's okay. Uh, there, there are lots of signs of, uh, positive, but between the uncertainty of the tariffs, the uncertainties of the Ukraine, Russia war, and the fact that things just aren't clicking right now the way, the way they would if growth were higher. What happens if the Democrats do take control of the house? They're not going to win the Senate, but if they take control of the house, like what as a practical matter changes? Because one of my frustrations, you know, the first

nine months has been we've gotten almost no legislation through. You know, if, you know, if, you If you don't have 60 seats now in the Senate, you can't pass a bill. That's why Trump's done it all by executive order. And those executive orders have made a great change, but they're easily undone. I think what changes is you'll all have to listen to Congressman Swalwell, talk more. Do we? Yeah. Is this the part we're going to swear?

Nah. Should be. What changes is they have majority gavels, and they'll subpoena the administration for everything. But except for that, you're right. They don't have 60 votes in the Senate. So it's not going to derail the legislative agenda because there isn't one. Let's spend a minute on media because you really have been everywhere. You know everyone in media.

I got into media in 2003. That was when I started working part-time at the ABC affiliate in Washington, D.C. And I joined Fox News in August of 2004. So it's been about 20-plus years. You're a baby. Yeah, okay. Let's go with that. Just in my time, I've seen such a dramatic change.

Just when I joined, it was nowhere near as biased and openly craven, at least in my experience. That's how I saw it or didn't, versus today. So what the hell happened? Well, in my experience, it's been biased the whole time. Certainly when my career started. As badly as it is now? Well, no, because Donald Trump supercharged it.

But the bias has always existed in my experience and working at, big places, just to a shocking degree. And people say, oh, do they have a conspiracy? It's not. It's group thinks so intense that they don't need to have a meeting about it. There's secret handshakes, but no meetings. Donald Trump just, it's an incredible story how Trump derangement syndrome affected the press, where they stopped being guardians of facts at all, and they just became openly committed to stopping them. And previously, democracy died in darkness. Now apparently it dies in demolition. They're so upset. They're so upset about changing the White House grounds to build a building that every president of both parties will tell you needs to be built.

Yes. That's the dirty little secret is that there was, that was reported someplace today where they were saying former staffers of Obama and George W. Bush are privately admitting we did need the ballroom. It's embarrassing to have to set up tents. When four dignity carries come. The tents are bad enough. Literally, estate dinners, they're using porta-potties. It's ridiculous. I mean, we're not necessarily the greatest country in the world, but I think we're great enough to have heads of state use regular bathrooms. Yeah, we can move beyond Johnny on the spot.

Yeah, yeah. I don't agree. I don't think it was Trump. I've said before, I think that the media committed suicide and Trump was their Kavorkian. He gave him the machine. He was like, here it is. He can press the button, and the cyanide goes, and you'll be done. And they were like, sure, let's do it.

Great. Family-friendly metaphor. But prior to that, they were already losing their minds. And, I mean, I worked at Fox News for 14 years. I definitely think they had a role in it because when Fox came on and Roger accurately deduced that there was media bias and it was all leftist, he said we're going to be the antidote to that, which was smart and the country needed it and it was such a huge success. But rather than correcting, you know, rather than CNN and MSNBC and all the others

looking at Fox and saying, oh, God, he has a point. You know, we should really get back to basics and try to call out the left-wing bias. they doubled and tripled down on it. So I do think it started happening in earnest on the left before Trump got there. Well, there's no doubt that the success of Rush and then a Fox discombobulated them from a business model point of view, but also from an editorial point of view. I think you referenced this as before. The biggest story in the United States, and in Europe, I think also,

is the opening up of the exposure of the fraudulence of the liberal cultural dominance. academia, corporate world in Hollywood, in news. People can, in education, people can now discuss it openly in a way that's never happened in our lifetimes at least. And I think the arc of how we got to that point, partly it's what you said, but I don't have any doubt that Trump's capacity to make them bonkers has led them to cash in any semblance of a focus on fairness. And the greatest example is the attempt to pretend that Joe Biden had cognitive decline. It's the biggest media scandal in American history. And it's a product not of love of Joe Biden. It's a product of an all-out attempt to keep Donald Trump from winning.

Hatred of Donald Trump. Yeah. The TDS is a real affliction. And once you have the TDS, it's very hard to get out from under the TDS. So how does that affect? affect the media when they don't have Trump to kick around any longer? Well, your example inspires people in independent media because not only your great success financially as a business model, but fearlessness to call things out. They see that. That's why CBS hired Barry, our friend Barry. That's why the Washington Post is quietly trying to reform itself. I think that anybody who tells you they know what politics or media will be like post-Trump, don't believe them, because none of us can really know for sure. But what we do

know is they now see the things you're doing as some things they have to try to adopt. Fearlessness, honesty, and a business model that actually sustains. We'll see if they can do it post-Trump, but they're so discombobulated. We'll see if JD carries on and makes them as discombobulated. There's something magical about Donald Trump. When Hillary Clinton has said when Bill Clinton dies, they should study his brain. And I say when Donald Trump politically is done, we should study the brains of all these people with TDS and try to figure out what's happened inside there. And that'll give us some indication of whether this is going to continue or not. It's like CTE. Like once you have it, you don't get rid of it, then they really

should be, they should be studied. My prediction is we won't even know that Trump is gone. The next person, whether it's J.D. or Marco, whomever, will be treated as even worse than Trump. We miss the days of Donald Trump. Little did we know there was another Hitler in the wings, and now his name is J.D. And he even looks like the devil. That's what we're going to get. I spent the early parts of my career as a political reporter, and for the last 10 years, I've basically been a therapist for all these people. Yes. To try to explain them, make them feel better.

I don't know how you talk to them the way you do. I just, I feel the country needs to, people in MAGA need to understand. them and they need to understand MAGA. And now it all revolves around them treating a construction site, pictures of a construction site, as if Donald Trump had purposely bombed an orphanage. That's how they treat those pictures. That's how you take down a building. They didn't destroy it. They took it down like you do. I want to build a new building. They're going to build a new building with new walls. Everything will be fine. We'll be twirling on the dance floor in no time at all, Mark. I look forward to it. Thank you so much. Thank you. Great to be here. Thank you all.

Thank you. Mark Halpert, everybody. Isn't he great? Thank you. Please God. Yeah, here, I'll take that. There we go. There we go. You always learn something from Mark, don't you? Calls it straight. It's very rare to find that in today's day and age. I don't know, do you think I'm right about, they'll make JD into even worse, like a new, even worse Hitler? It's already starting. There's like little pieces of all JD advances even worse than I thought. because they can feel him coming. All right, without further ado, speaking of people who are from hometown, Texas, you know who my next guest is. He's a legend. Truly, he's a legend. He's literally a legend in radio. But Glenn Beck and I met back when I was at Fox News. And I was actually at Fox before Glenn. He was over on CNN headline news because his radio show got picked up as a CNN show as well. And he was interesting on Headlight News. Sometimes I put on the show and listened to

He was a conservative guy, a smart guy, always very well researched, loved America, was very patriotic, that was very clear. And then he came over to Fox and was literally the most dynamic, interesting thing most of us had ever seen on television. I don't know. Glenn just decided to let his freak flag fly and went for it on Fox News. You're going to see some of that in his little highlight reel in a second. And then, after just two years.

years, he left. Why? Does anyone actually know the answer? We're about to ask him. And rather than just leaving and fading off into the sunset, and Glenn had plenty of money from all of his years in radio and on television, he decided that he might form a new independent media company in the digital lane, which almost nobody was doing back then. This is back in 2012, 13, right on there. But Glenn saw a seam in the story and said, I can exploit that. I can use that new lane to communicate directly with people in exactly the way I want to. And that's when the Blaze was born, his new company was born, and Glenn has been crushing it in this lane to which I arrived in 2020 ever since. In a second, we'll bring him out. Check out Glenn back. Let's be honest.

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We've been friends for 15, 16 years now, then? A long time. And the dynamic presentation you brought to Fox News literally changed news. You were on everyone's mind. Everyone wanted the kind of attention that you were getting. I was making fun of cable news. that's what I was doing. People didn't get that.

I remember CNN asked me to join them, and I went up because my agent said it'd be good, you know, it's good practice, because I'm like, I'm not working at CNN. And we're sitting there, and they said to me, remember this big, long, it was like a movie, just big long table with all the executives standing behind it, or sitting behind it, and he said, I don't understand why you wouldn't want to come and work in cable news.

He looked at him, and I said, Have you watched cable news? Terrible. It's awful. It's awful. And they, to some extent, let me create what I wanted to create. And then Roger saw the success of it over there and brought me over to Fox. And we had the same kind of agreement that, you know, if I'm going to torch the, you know, the entire network, stop me, please.

but he was like, I trust you and I trusted him on what the network was doing and we had a great time. You were so fun to watch and you were then and remain such a good teacher, right? Like when Glenn takes on a difficult issue, he can walk you through it such that you really understand it like nobody else and when you get the double blackboard out, it's like nothing else.

There's nobody who can do the double blackboard better than you can. And at Fox, you truly became. a juggernaut, number one show, all the attention, millions of articles written about you. I saw you one time. I mentioned this. I remember you came to see in my office because we were going to talk about your book and I was going to write something for it. And you had like six body cards because you also became a huge target. How did that change your life? You know, before I went to Fox, I knew it was going to change my life. Not as much as it did. We had already had death threats before, but not like that and not organized, not really paid for by the Soros people and the left.

I mean, they spent a lot of money doing that. The only thing that mattered to me was a conversation that I had with my two eldest daughters and my wife before we went, but the night before I gave Roger his answer of whether I would come to Fox. I sat down and I said, this is going to change our lives in ways we can't imagine, and I just want my two children to look me in the eye and say, you will always remember me for who I actually am, not what people are going to say about me. That's very wise. I've had that conversation with my own kids, too. It's hard. I say, like, here are the charitable things they say about me.

You should see what they say. Yeah. And then if people will stop me on the street and say, oh, I'm big fan, whatever. I say, you see that. There are a lot more of those people than there are of those people. And you remember that whenever you say something terrible. That's the only thing that matters. It's the only thing that I'm such a big fan of Rush Limbaugh.

And he... Yeah. The greatest. But once his audience dies out, this should give all of us that do what we do, perspective. When his audience... dies out, he will just fade back into the background of humanity. He's really important for this, and the things that he taught and changed will have ripple effects, but the name will go away. Very few people are actually remembered. Charlie Kirk will be remembered for decades

to come. You know, you're kind of touching on, I call it my Paul Newman theory of Life. My Paul Newman Theory of Life is as follows. You can do pretty much everything right. You can get married to the person you love. You can have kids who you really adore and raise them right. You can make it in, you know, sort of a dream business, which is what the film business was when Paul Newman was in it. You know, when celebrity actually knew to keep themselves scarce and still a mystery and really coveted. You can have a genuine love affair. Those two talked about wanting to jump in the sack with each other all the way through their entire long marriage and lives seem to really be for each other and love each other all the way through. You can then,

on top of an amazing film career, form a charitable company that literally gives hundreds of millions of dollars to charity. And then it still ends. And time will roll on, and our kids won't really know who Paul Newman is. And the point of that is not to depress you, but it's to make you understand. Make your time count here in the way that's meaningful to you. Because, you, Because it's not, you can play it perfectly like a Paul Newman, and we're all still going to the same place. Ideally, we're crossing over and going to a better place. But as far as our time here on this earth, like, if you don't value your own life and approach it lovingly and surround yourself with the things that matter, nothing's going to fill you up. And

having some lasting legacy is not going to make it any better. No, there's no such thing as that. There is, if you're not doing things that have an eternal consequence. Why are you doing them? We need to understand. And, you know, as I, I just had a birthday recently, and I turned old. What is old? But I, but it changes your perspective. My kids just moved out of the house. I have all my four kids are out of the house now. And Tanya, yeah, I know, right? Yeah. Do you know his kids? Are you jeering? But you start to put things into perspective and you realize the only thing that really matters is your kids and your family. That's it.

It really is. That's right. You know, that old saying, we're on the deathbed saying, I wish I spent more time at work. That is actually, I'm sick of hearing it, but it's actually very true. And if we can figure this out earlier than when you turn old, the better society will be. that if we just do the right things and we live our lives striving to be better tomorrow than we are today for eternal reasons, not our eternal reasons, his eternal reasons, and the ripple effect that comes from that, the whole world changes. Charlie is the one man, he came up to me, he was like 15 years old,

and he said something that I've had a million people say, you know, I want to do what you do. I want to have the network and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And what they're always saying, and I know this, what they're always saying is, I want to be like Rush Limbaugh. Not me, Rush Limbaugh. And when Charlie said that, to me, I said, well, what I always do. If I can help you in any way, I will. If you need mentorship, just call me.

I'm available at any time. I'll be watching you. Charlie is the only one that I saw. Every time I saw him, he was smarter than he was. the last time, more well read, had learned some new skill and was a better, deeper Christian and man than he was the time before last. And I realized, I mean, he really put me to shame. I try really hard, but he put me absolutely to shame. And I have doubled my efforts to, we have to live every single moment like it is our last moment, doing the way.

the things we want to. Instead of like, I'll get to that tomorrow, I have piled up so many empty yesterdays by saying I'll do it tomorrow. Do it now, whatever it is, and learn something new today. Do something new. Be a better person. Your past does not matter. It doesn't matter. It only matters up here in your head. Stop that old tape. Get all of that crap out of your head. reconcile with it and move on and be the person you were born to be. We are so fortunate to be born today, to live today. It's the worst of times and it is the best of times. And we're the one, if you happen to believe, you know, the end of the book, which I do, we're possibly the generation that has been selected to pave the way for the return of the Savior. People have wanted that,

forever. I spent my whole life going, you can wait. I mean, there's no rush on that one. That says it gets scary there towards the end. But we, that means we've been selected to live at this time. Out of all the souls that have lived, we've been selected. There's no, there's nobody that's just here without a purpose. Find your purpose. Find what it is that you're supposed to be doing to build a better kingdom and do it every single day. Because the Lord, even if your life is cut short, the Lord will work miracles with your life. Yeah, that's clearly what happened with Charlie. It is.

So, speaking of building it, so you left Fox after a couple of years. I mean, it just feels like you were there for 10 years. You know, you did so much and so much happened. But you left after a couple of years. Why? What happened there? So Bill O'Reilly said to me, when I was first, I first came, he set me down, and he's like, dude, you got to slow down. You've got to slow down. You've got to slow down. You've got

two decades here. And I'm like, I'm gone in two years. And he said, what? And I said, I don't want, this is not what I grew up wanting to do. I'm using this, you know, as a launching pad. And I believe we're in trouble. And I believe we have to say these things. But this is not what I want to do. and he said, you're crazy, you could stay forever. Two years later, we're negotiating, and Roger Ailes absolutely believed that I was negotiating. And going back and forth, and then everything that was happening in the press and everything else, the last thing Roger Ailes said to me as I walked out the door,

because we had a decent relationship. I mean, you know, I didn't know all about his personal life, et cetera, et cetera. But we had this connection on performance and television and the craft of television. and the craft of television. And I remember him sitting in his chair. Did he ask you to twirl? He did not. Good.

And I was actually kind of hurt after I found out everything. I'm pretty sexy, dude. But I remember him sitting in his chair, and as I'm walking out, I said, thank you very much. Mr. Ayles, it's been enjoyable. I've learned a lot. And he said, he shook his head, and he said, come on, you're not actually going to do that internet thing, are you? And I said, I am.

I believe it's the future. And he said, mark my words. The internet is a fad. Wow. Wow. Yeah. You know what I think, just having known him, is he didn't believe that.

He was just trying to convince you of that. Maybe. Maybe. Because he was worried. He was very worried about Google, and he was worried about, like, the online presence is coming, and stealing our audience and his talent.

And he was a genius. So I feel like he probably did see the threat. He was just trying to convince you. There was no there there. So he'd stay. Well, I mean, when I left, you know, you said almost nobody was doing it. Literally, no one was doing it. Wasn't Joe Rogan doing it?

Joe Rogan was doing a podcast kind of thing, but not what we were doing. No one was doing a live network. Nobody had ever tried. We had to build our backbone on the, back of Major League Baseball. They were the only people that had pioneered all of the infrastructure to do a subscription live network. So we started it and it was frightening. But the reason why I started it, Megan, and you know this, because I've, I mean, I was writing you when you were going through your crap at NBC and the stuff at the end of Fox and your whole journey. I always had my back.

I've always believed in you. I've always seen your talent. And I've always said, get out of there. And the reason why I started the blaze was to demonstrate. Because I remember one of the last things I said on Fox was a message to the left. There will come a day when you thrill at the idea of me on only at 5 p.m. on weekdays. They didn't understand what I understood. If somebody goes in and plants their flag and can make it a success,

you will follow. Tucker will follow. Ben Shapiro will follow. Look, we have successfully, we're this close to successfully putting the mainstream media out. Out of business. Out. That's right. I've never really considered it like that. But if we said to today's left,

if you could wave your magic wand and put me back at 9 a.m. on NBC. They would. Versus leave me where I am now. They'd put me back there in two seconds. Because what they were saying at the time was, you want to say those things? You can't say those on network television. You go on the internet and you do a podcast. They didn't understand the power of the podcast. They didn't understand. They had no vision at all. So you were not like them. You truly were a trail. Blazor. You start the Blaze, and I just want to read the audience a couple of stats about the

Blaze, okay? These are people who come out of the Blaze Hall of Fame, people who you know who are everyday names, household names, who started at the Blaze. Will Kane, Lawrence Jones, Buck Sexton, Dana Lash, Pete Heggseth, Allie Beth Stuckey, and the Great Stubber Gear, who we love. Mercury One, your group that you've used to do incredible works, has raised over $250 million to help the hopeless. 100% of funds go downrange. Rescued over 12,000 people from Afghanistan. That was incredible what you did, very brave.

Rebuilt over 300 homes in North Carolina after Hurricane Helene went through, dropped over 300,000 pounds of supplies in western North Carolina, still rebuilding in Hawaii after the wildfires, helped rebuild homes destroyed by the floods in Texas Hill Country, one of the largest collections of American historical artifacts outside of the Smithsonian, which we're going to see a couple things from tonight. And that leads me to some news that I believe you have to make tonight because you're at another crossroads, Glenn, and you're going to share it for the first time here. So I have been watching AI since the 90s. I've been talking about AI. And I read Ray Kurzweil's book, The Age of Spiritual Machines back in the late 90s. And it opened my eyes to the problem.

that AI is going to cause. It's not enough just to talk about the problems because AI is both the worst thing that could happen to humanity, but it is at the same time one of the best things that could happen to us. As long as we remember, it's a tool. Right now, things like chat GPT, people are just using it to think for them. That's not, that won't help you. that will hurt you in the end.

Companies are using AI to reduce the workload. Instead of looking at it and saying, wait a minute, I have a team now of researchers, but now if we ethically use it and we know how to build AI, my team will have a team of researchers. So we can go deeper, faster, much broader. We can quadruple our output in quality, but you have to know how to use.

use it. So about a year and a half ago, I was noodling all of these things and I was looking at how busy I am in producing shows for the Blaze on the Blaze. And I wanted to shift and do other things. So I have decided that the Blaze, for me at least, mission accomplished. The Blaze is healthier than it's ever been. They have really amazing announcements of some new talent that is coming on board. I won't be leaving the Blaze technically. They will still be doing my show at 9 a.m. But I am starting a new company, and my new company, I hope, what I help do to the mainstream media, I hope to do that to our mainstream education. process. How? So I'm going to be focused on two things. My new venture, it's called the

torch, kind of like an offshoot of the blades. I love it, yes. Yeah. And it is my attempt to spend the last, you know, maybe 15 years, 20 years of my career doing a couple of things. One, education, I started collecting in 2008 on a prompting from God, I felt. And it is led to us now having the largest collection of founding documents. The only ones that beat us is the National Archives and the Library of Congress. It's amazing. Now, I have the largest collection also of documents and artifacts from the Mayflower and Jamestown.

and we actually convinced the guy who wanted, collected it his whole life and wanted to give it to the Smithsonian, or sell it to the Smithsonian, we talked to and said, you see what's going on, right? And an institution in the government, they can remove documents and vault them, and you don't know the history. They cannot own all of the documents and then be the arbiter of truth. You have to have an outside source. So he sold that collection to me for half the price he was going to sell it to the Smithsonian for. So I have spent with an amazing team literally working 24 hours, depending on which hemisphere, working 24 hours a day. We have been digitizing every single document, every artifact. We have then put it through an AI vectoring system.

You know, remember when you used to have to be exact on your question, and you would have to ask the question, you're like, ah, it would give you the wrong answer, and you'd have to be exact. Now, through vectoring, each word has 250 different meanings, and so it checks each word, 250 different directions, so it understands what you're asking. We've built an electric fence around our server farm, and so nothing can come into it, and only what we have in their... It's going to make it super easy for people to search. It's not going to be a hassle to figure out. It's not just search. It will now be able, you'll be able to say, what did the founders talk about? Did they ever talk about abortion?

Not only will you get the answer, you will see the documents, you will see the sermons that they listened to at the time. Then you will also be able to say, I want to teach this to my kids, but my kid is eight years old. It will then say, in what form? I want a podcast. I want, in fact, I have 12. 12 minutes in the car driving them to school, and I want them to learn the Constitution from

the founder's point of view. And I only have 12 minutes. Please develop a series of podcasts for me that will teach the Constitution to my 8-year-old. Then at the end of each episode, it will ask the student questions just to see, did you really connect with that? Did you understand it? And if not, it automatically changes episode number two to represent what we in one. So you have now... It's like a dream. You can only move from a teacher in a school, but you would never get. I want to get back to this in a minute, but while I have you, I got to ask some news of the day. Because I'm very excited about your project, and I think there's a need for it.

Like, there's, you've done great things at the blaze. I'm very happy our show's not going away, but this is additive, and it's a gift to us all. There's a debate going on in the industry that you've spent your life working in, which conservative media. And it's really kind of dominating the conversation right now. Our pals over the Daily Wire had a long debate about it the other day internally, and they were very divided. You know, Ben felt one way. I feel like Knowles and Matt Walsh felt a different way. Claven was with Ben online. Everybody's having this discussion, and it is, are we the party of people on the right who believe no enemies to the right? You know, no enemies to the right

me. I don't criticize people on the right. My battle is with those on the left, and that's where I'm going to focus all my ire. Or are we the party of, no, some people need to be excised, Bill Buckley type National Review, back at the heyday of NR's power, saying, Pat Buchanan, you're out, because we think you're an anti-Semite, et cetera. What, what, what, how do you see it today? I want to be really careful because we are talking about dividing and division is really bad, but it is necessary at times. And I don't know if everybody knows exactly what you're talking about, but there is a moving and growing movement inside the right that is extraordinarily unreasonably anti-Semitic. And it's not just anti-Semitic. It is also perverting

the entire system. Look, our system has real problems. problems, but we cannot throw the baby out with a bathwater. I ask people all the time, is America a good place or a bad place? That's what they always answer. It's neither. It's good and bad. We have done horrible things and we've done miraculous things. The question is, which direction are we going? Are we giving up on it and saying, you know, it's too bad, it's irreplaceable? I mean, it's unfixable. We've just got to replace it. Or, Or are we saying these are the problems we've learned from history. Here's how we fix them so we can be a more perfect nation and be better every day.

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They are serious. The Sharia law thing, look, I have friends who are Muslim that are not that. There are plenty of Muslims who are completely Americanized. They do not wish to force their religion on anybody, nor take down our tenants of free speech and separation of church and state, but there are plenty of Muslims who do not feel that way. Exactly right.

And they have to be in control in Dearborn, Michigan and in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Texas leads the nation. Texas leads the nation. You're going to be hearing a lot about this, Texas, but we are leading the nation

in the Islamification of our country. Let me tell you something. New York's about to give you a run for your money. Yeah. Here is Zoran Mamdani, who is, is about to become the New York City mayor, if you believe the polls, and I do,

who knowing that this is an issue for some New Yorkers, because we were attacked by radical Muslims on 9-11, killed 3,000 Americans, starting at the World Trade Center, knowing that this is an issue for some, and that New York is not a majority Muslim town, it's about 9% Muslim. And knowing all of that decided, even post the two presidential mayoral debates,

to go on camera at a mosque and pulled the following shit when talking about 9-11. This is this week. Here's the soundbite. Watch. I want to use this moment to speak to the Muslims of New York City. I want to speak to the memory of my aunt

who stopped taking the subway after September 11th because she did not feel safe in her hijab. His thought in recalling 9-11 was to feel sorry for his aunt who allegedly felt uncomfortable wearing her hijab on the subway. Not a word for the 3,000 dead Americans. Not a word. And this guy is about to win, Glenn.

What you're going to see in America and in Texas, please pay attention to this. What you're going to see is what's happening over in Europe. Europe is, I mean, this is one of the things the students at University of North Dakota said to me. All of these immigrants are coming because of the wars of the Jews. What wars of the Jews? What is happening in the Middle East that is causing men and young men to leave their home, leave their mom and their sisters behind and all move en masse all around the world.

There is no war like that. These are not refugees. This is an invasion. They are coming into our countries and they are setting up no-go zones all throughout Europe. We are about to lose France and Germany and Sweden and England. England. We did a story two weeks ago with a G. CB news correspondent, anchor, talking about how in some towns now in Great Britain, they are

objecting to the British flag flying because they feel it's triggering for members of the Muslim community. They don't want to have to see the flag of the country to which they've moved. I'm sorry. It's one of those things where Charlie called it. Others have predicted it. Norm McDonald infamously said, oh, gee, it'd be a terrible thing if we had another ISIS attack that killed tens of millions of Americans with a dirty bomb because that would really drive up Islamophobia, right? Where if you speak out about this, you will be called a bigot.

You are 100% going to be called a bigot by the Zoranamdanis. Stand in line. Stand in line. I'm going to call worse. Stand in line. We have to fight for our culture because truly, to Islamacize America is to lose America. The values are not consistent.

You cannot move from Judeo-Christian values and still have America. all of our documents. And believe me, you can argue with me, I'll take you to the library and I'll show it to you in their own writing. This is a nation that was based on the Bible, Old Testament and New Testament, period. You erase that. You're done. You're done. All of our principles, all of our principles. I don't remember who was saying it tonight about being Christian. One of the questions. How can you be Christian? How do you fight about, you know, you're not Christian if, you know, you're not helping the illegals come in.

That liberalism is consistent with Christianity instead of conservative. Right. Here it is. Let's just think. How do you help? You want to, Vatican, I tell you what, take your wall down and then open all of the doors to the Pope's house and everything else and let people come in who are not Catholics, just to you. use and abuse anything and everything and then try to tell you, you've got to take that crucifix down because it's offensive to me and my religion. The Pope would never do it, nor should we. Yeah. Yes. It's amazing to me that New York's about to do this. I mean, of all cities

in the world, the city that was attacked on 9-11, that they're about to do this. And Zora Mandani is not your average, just typical. He's a whirlful in sheep's clothing. He has a million-dollar smile. He's got this sweet, soft affect. But this guy, if you hear him before he actually became the frontrunner for mayor, was sounding very radical about how important his number one issue was the Palestinians and making sure that the boycott from Israel movement was on the mind of every single New Yorker and getting more and more Muslims into positions of power in New York so that they could change policy. He spends all his time at these mosques. I mean, we've seen this. We've seen in places like Dearborn and places like Minneapolis now,

the call to prayer is being brought. over loud speakers on the streets at all hours of the day and you're walking your kids to school and you are listening to Alahu Akbar as every this is we are crossing over to a place especially thanks to the influx of 11 million illegals thanks to Joe Biden where our country's starting to look and feel very different including when it comes to core values Glenn so here's the easiest thing you could do start having children yes start having Big families. Go home tonight. Think of her, not me. And go for it. It's so true, though. I only wish I had met Doug younger, so we could have had more children. I wish I'd had several more. You know, I didn't want children when I was young. I was old I had Thatcher when I was 42. God kind of cuts you off at a certain point. Yeah. I didn't want children when I was young, and I have four, and I wish I had eight or ten or twelve. But we're not, I mentioned this thing. We're not doing that. You know what we're doing? We're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're

creating laws in places like New Jersey now where you can abort your baby up to 34 weeks. Culture of death. This is what we're fighting. Forget Islam. Forget the left. Forget socialism. Forget. There's one umbrella term. Culture of death. They all have the same thing in common. You want to fix the planet's temperature off people. Reduce the surplus populace. And don't have children. And don't have children. You want to stop people from winning on the other side because you're for communism or socialism or Sharia law. Kill them.

You want to make sure that everybody has a happy life. Then you can go do whatever you want, but kill your baby. That is Moloch worship. We have seen this over and over and over again. They had abortion trucks outside of the Democratic National Convention. Abortion trucks. How does any of your neighbors? I know.

How does any of your neighbors who really truly believe that, no, no, no, we're on the right side. When you look at the curve to death, I mean, this is why history is so important. It repeats itself over and over and over again, and especially ancient evil. This is ancient evil. There have been 19 holocausts, 19, and every time it happens, it starts exactly the same way. Okay, so here we are then, because the next question is, the real question is, as a student of history, you've got the library, you've got the evidence, how does this end? How does a culture like ours that is becoming a culture of death, and this audience knows you and I were on the air together the day Charlie died, the most difficult broadcast, I think either of us has ever done.

How is that trend resolved or not resolved? So history does not write itself, and it certainly should never be left in the hands of the elites. People write history by what you do and what you choose every day. I will tell you, I'm going to say two phrases that are absolutely true. America cannot at this point. America cannot survive, one, but God. Only a revival which we are coming to right now. There is a revival happening in the whole world.

it's not enough to have a revival. There must be an awakening. We had revivals all through the progressive era. Okay, people come into Jesus. It's good to come to Jesus. But now what are you going to do with that Jesus? Are you going to put that Jesus off to the side? Or are you going to let it affect who you vote for?

What you do, how you live your life, what you consume, both monetarily and in your own head. That's an awakening. Because I know who Jesus Christ is, I must change my life myself. I don't need to go preach to everybody. I'm going to change my life. And I will be so peculiar in this society that people will notice. And they'll notice, you're happy.

We're all miserable. How? Yes. It's Christ. Only answer to our problems is Christ. That is the only answer. A humble understanding of the eternal truth taught to us in the Gospels. Thanks for listening to The Megan Kelly Show, no BS, no agenda, and no fear.