The Megyn Kelly Show - Dr. Fauci's SHOCKING Diary Revelations, Trump's WHCD Jabs, and DSA Madness, with Victor Davis Hanson | Ep. 1368

Episode Date: July 27, 2026

Megyn Kelly is joined by Victor Davis Hanson, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, and author of "The Counterrevolution," to discuss shocking new details released in Dr. Fauci's "diary," the dangerous hubris exposed in the document, his lies and narcissism on display throughout his notes to himself, new revelations from Dr. Fauci's diary about his relationships with prominent journalists, his public image unraveling as more information comes to light, Dr. Fauci used the media to cover his own complicity in the pandemic, Fauci's lasting damage to America, President Trump's appearance at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, the absurd backlash to some of his jokes, the media's double standard on humor from political figures, Ryan Clark crying on-air after his ESPN firing, his past comment trashing Charlie Kirk, why attacks on Caitlin Clark are increasingly backfiring, the change in culture from 2020 to 2026, one of the Democratic Socialists of America's leaders admitting the radical changes they want to enact, the random assortment of leftists that make up DSA, and more.   More from Hanson:https://www.amazon.com/Counterrevolution-Fall-Donald-Trump-Movement/dp/1541607821   Supersure Insurance: Upgrade your business insurance to a year-round SuperAgency at https://Supersure.com/Megyn Relief Factor: Reclaim your mobility and celebrate your freedom from aches this year by grabbing your $17.76 3-week QuickStart at https://ReliefFactor.com or by calling 800-4-RELIEF. The Wellness Company: Don’t let a sudden illness derail your summer—secure your peace of mind and save $45 on a Medical Emergency Kit today by visiting https://UrgentCareKit.com/MK and using promo code MK. American Financing: Call American Financing today to find out how customers are saving an average of $800/mo. NMLS #182334 https://nmlsconsumeraccess.org. APR for rates in the 5s start at 6.327% for well qualified borrowers. Call 800-852-2010 for details about credit, costs and terms. Visit https://AmericanFinancing.net/MegynKelly . Average savings based on borrowers who save over $199.99      Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKelly Twitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShow Instagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShow Facebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at:https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East. Hey, everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show and happy Monday. We have lots of news to get to today. Thanks to Senator Rand Paul, we now have Anthony Fauci's diary entries during the height of COVID. I mean, to the surprise of no one who listens to this show, Dr. Fauci was way more concerned. with his fame and image than with the fate of the country. Like, not since James Comey have we seen someone this narcissistic and self-aggrandizing in a public

role. And I include Trump in that. I include Trump easily in that. Anthony Fauci makes Donald Trump look humble. He makes him look like a humble, insecure. I can't believe what I read. in that guy's diary entrance. I mean, I can believe it, but it's still shocking to see how vain and pathetic he was.

Let me tell you something. Let me tell you a quick little story. When I was coming up the ranks as a very young reporter at Fox News, like the Washington Post did a profile on me. And it was Hallie Kurtz long before he had joined Fox News. He was the media reporter. And he did a profile on me, and I thought it was so great. And I thought it was, like, so cool that he had done it. So I kept a copy of it.

And then, I don't know who the next one was to do a big profile of me, but they did it. And then there was another one, and I kept a copy of it. And then I had, like, a little scrapbook. Only it wasn't a scrapbook. It was just a pile of, like, five articles. And then, you know what happened when we got to the sixth article? I threw them away. Because I understand when you're first, like, starting to collect some attention,

you're like, oh my gosh, wow, Washington Post did an article on me. That's so cool. A mile marker in time. Then maybe a second, yeah, how would have it? And then when you realize, like, you've become a public person, they all kind of blend it. It's, you no longer have to hold on to them because you're like, I'm just doing my job now. This isn't, like, if you think you're just going to be a flash in the pan or this is just a moment where you got a little attention, I get it. You know, it's like, that's kind of cool.

This guy was every day. collecting this article and that front page piece and this magazine and this news anchor and a friendship is forming with Jake Tapper. Oh, and look and everyone knows who I am. And not just that. I crossed the street and people yelled nice things at me and told me I was a it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. I've never seen anything like this in public life. I know a ton a very famous people as a result of my job. Not one is like this.

Not one. Honestly, I feel like it's Comey and Fauci. How did poor Trump get saddled with both of those guys? Which, you know, he inherited both of them. All right. We'll get to that in one second.

But also, just a couple of headlines we're going to get to. The Democrats continue to be in free fall as another leader is accused of throwing something at a fellow dem in anger and forced to speak to HR. Plus, you got to hear President Trump's comedy set from Friday's White House Correspondents Association Dinner. They all got back together after that attempted assassination that happened a couple of months earlier to the president's

credit. He said, we are not allowing this would-be assassins and to cancel this event. We are coming back together. And he got up there and he made off-color jokes like they always do. But CNN is very angry because these were Trump's off-color jokes, you see. And so they're not allowed. Like, if you do it while there's a Democrat at the lectern or a comedian hired while there's a Democrat president sitting on the dais, that's fine. Okay, that's different. But when you have Donald Trump up there being off-color, well, that's evil. And CNN is very, very angry. We'll talk about it. Joining me now is Victor Davis-Hanson. He is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, an author of the forthcoming book, the counter revolution, the fall and rise of Donald Trump and the MAGA movement. It's out this

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VDH, welcome back. Great to see you. These Fauci headlines are unbelievable, Victor. I'll just give the audience something like, something quickly as a specific example. Okay. This is from his private diary March of 2020, specifically March 21st. Big front page article about me in the Washington Post. Very flattering. My national and international fame is explosive and really unimaginable. It is not hyperbole to say that today I am the most famous and talked about person in the country and one of the most recognizable persons in the world.

Okay, they're pointing out that the deaths that day were 9,800. So we had 9,800 people dying. And he was very focused on his Washington Post, very flattering, big front page article, and his national and international fame being explosive. your thoughts. You're right about Comey. I might add Mark Millie, too. He was the same type of person, but General Mark Millie.

But the thing about it was that it bothered me the most. That was obviously the keystone that explains a lot of his behavior. He was a pathological narcissist. But did you remember what he was doing? He had all this evidence. He would get experts to get. And then he would say, well, you know, eight out of ten say that it came out of the lab. And then he would misrepresent that and say that it was still a pangolin.

And the reason he was doing that from as you followed the stream, I read a lot of them, is that he was invested because he had helped fund this lab through Peter Dasick and Echo Health. And he and Francis Collins were paranoid. And so they were misleading the American people and the scientific community. And as part of that effort, Megan, he's mentioning about grants. And you got the impression, it's pretty clear that he was taking public money in the billions of dollars and doling out money to individual researchers, not just on the science, but predicated to how well they praised him or their research supported his pangolin bat thesis.

And so he was utterly corrupt as well. And then he had, it's kind of tragic. I have kind of a personal prejudice because Scott Atlas is a colleague of mine. But I remember those years when they went after Scott, who was a public health expert and the world's expert on the brain and MRI technology. And they went after Jay Batacharya, the National Institutes of Health Director now. They went after Martin Cullen. Called him fringe.

Yeah. And they called him fringe. And then you hear this, Alicia, is that her name, Griffith at The View? And she was tasked, she writes. Alyssa Farrah. Farah, yeah, she's tasked as if almost she's a CNN broker or something. She says, I will help get Scott Atlas. And she's communicating with Fauci.

And what his crime, when you start to read about it, what he was actually saying was it mask are good for health care officials, but if you think it's going to stop everybody masking up, it's not going to do it. If you want to protect people with quarantines, go out, take all your resources at 65 and above. But children are not going to be subject to death from this virus. Don't shut down the schools. It'll destroy people's educate. Don't shut down the economy. It's going to have substance abuse, familial abuse. It's going to be a ripple that won't get out of this economy and social life for years. And they were all for the vaccines, the three of them. They said the vaccines are valuable, but they do not stop being

infected or being infectious. They have a limited utility and the boosters. No, we were the first, I think, I'm pretty sure we were the first show to put on all three doctors. I think you were. Behind the Great Barrington Declaration. That's how we got to know, Jay Baudicharia back in the day. as he and his colleagues from Harvard and Stanford were being dismissed as fringe by Collins and Fauci. They were. And these emails are full of his smears. Yeah. If you disagreed with him, you got smeared.

And then Berks was, Berks was, she was trying to explain. And then Fauci, remember, was bragging that he's, he almost sounds like he seduced Trump. He's got Trump over, I'm now got a very strange relationship and working on Trump. and you could see they were blackening these three people who were proven correct. And by the way, they've never, in the case of Scott, the Stanford faculty censored him. And then a few months ago, they embarrassed people said, let's uncensor him. And they wouldn't do it. They still censored him.

They're still angry at him. And I wrote three columns on his defense, and I was told not to write them anymore. And I had all these faculty members attacking me. I had the Stanford Alumni Association president call me or write me and say you better stop it. We have too many complaints about you. And all I was doing is saying, why don't you let these people's views be aired honestly and evaluated on the science rather than demonize them? And so the final thing, I think you're right about that to mention the deaths because for all the narcissism and these using this federal agency to kind of like Comey used the FBI to punish you. and help friends.

They really did. What he did result in a lot of deaths. If he had come out on day one and say, you know what, we were mistaken. Gain of function research was outlawed the United States. I understand that. I thought that I was doing good by circulating money

or greenlighting visits from scientists to go over there and give them instrumentation and advice. And that was wrong. And he was even opposed, Megan to the travel ban from China at the time when the Chinese government had banned all travel from Wuhan anywhere in China and they were sending thousands of people to Milan, JFK, SFO, LAX. And Trump wanted to stop that immediately from all crowds. And he was against that because that would suggest that there was a lab origin in Wuhan. And he was convinced that the pangolin bat theory

would exonerate him and cover his footprints. This is all connected. It is. This is all connected because his vanity prevented him from being able to tell the truth about how COVID got started or how we could best fight it. He would only recommend what would make him look good or look right, irrespective of whether it was what was right for the country. That's my takeaway.

and having read all of this now, that it shows just his vanity running amok and him protective of it at every turn. I'm just going to give a couple more examples here. March 22nd of March of 2020. So 3.22.20 was the date. Cases continue to soar 30,000 in the USA with 400 deaths. And here's what he writes.

Press is going wild with me. Front page in Washington Post yesterday. And op-ed by mooring Dowd in New York Times today about me. Profiled by Peter Nichols on me in the Atlantic. He tracked the body count and his press clippings on the same pages. That's what his diary entries released by Rand Paul point out. His body count and his press clippings on the same pages. It's almost as if the worse it got, the more important he got, and he enjoyed that.

mentioned Dr. Birx, Deb Burks, I should say, at the White House. This is from April of 2020 the next month after the ones I just read. After the presser, Deb Berks texted and then called me, this is obviously a White House presser involving Trump, saying it was good that I wasn't there since after the presser, the president called her into the Oval and started yelling at her, saying, you and Fauci have destroyed the country and the economy. I should never, ever have listened to you. You have completely destroyed us. He kept saying this over and over again and was yelling at her. I encouraged her that we are okay. And at the end of the day, she and I will be loved by the people we care about.

She was relieved and after wrote me a text sincerely thanking me. He's not talking about Mrs. Fauci there, Victor. He's talking about Jake Tepper and Maureen Dow and the folks who write at the Atlantic and the lefties who are allegedly stopping him on the street to call him a hero. and definitely not Jay Badacharya, Sunnetra Gupta, who is at Oxford

and Martin Koldorf at Harvard, whom he refers to as the three stooges, the three stooges one week prior to them coming out with the Great Barrington Declaration, which he clearly knew

was on its way. So there he is, at every turn, we will be loved by the people who matter to us. F the president, F the people.

We need to manage the press, and we need to manage lefties who clearly are on our side because they're stopping me on the street, calling me a hero. Yeah. And when there's a, there's one exchange with, about Scott Atlas where they were demonizing because all of those four people said that there was this ancient concept of herd immunity. They didn't say that it would stop the virus. They said that in conjunction with the initial vaccinations, it would lessen the epidemic, pandemic. And it did. And they said eventually that,

the various variants and mutations would be less toxic because people would have antibodies and not all antibodies just from the vaccinations, but from earlier infections. And then Fauci and the thing, he writes about Atlas, he said, I've talked to him. And then he has let it rip in quotations. He never said, let it rip, Scott Atlas. But they had said, Scott Atlas means just let it rip and get, you know, as if don't do anything and just let people die. And he has it in quotation

mark, so even he knew it was a lie. And yet they were promulgating that. And when you have to call somebody in the White House and to try to get somebody fired because he disagrees with you, and he was, all those people were proven

right. And there was, you know, we have people at the Hoover Institution that have studied the educational fallout and those two years that were missed, people never caught up. That was, especially in grade second two through three and four. And think of all that, I think that George Floyd, you know, the riots and all that reaction, that four months of looting and burning was all these people were, I'm not excusing it, but I'm saying that an amplifier of

that was this lockdown. Everybody was cooped up. They didn't get news. They didn't talk to people. They were terrified. We have those clips of people. And remember Tim Walts was Minnesota where you had people trying to shoot rubber bullets at people on the porch. And here in California, they were stopping sand and, you know, skate rinks outdoors. It was crazy. And all that came. Cutting down the nets on basketball courts outside. It was all from these people that were convinced. And, you know, when I went back when I was reading and looked at the fourth quarter economic news of the Trump economy, it had just kicked in unemployment. GDP, inflation, everything was booming in the last quarter of 2019. And that all came to a stop.

And then when we're reading about all of this multi-billionaire fraud in Minnesota, Somali and all, when you start to look at it very carefully, it was part of that pay protection plan and build back better, the $7 trillion, $7 trillion. It's true. That's when it all started. And that's when all that's, we just lavish money. We inflated the economy. There was no productivity. Everybody was cooped up inside. They were getting stir crazy.

It was really, in some ways, as bad as they were. There was a bunch of big fat Christmas presents to people who wanted to defraud the system. And they did. Here on this, on this point about the schools, which is just so galling, I mean, the audience remembers we at this show, and many in conservative or independent media fought the same to get those schools reopened and to call out the villains who refused Chicago Teachers Union, among others. And listen to this. So David Zweig, who is an independent journalist, and he tweeted this out yesterday, reminding us that Fauci told the New York Times in 23, show me a school that I shut down. Never, never, he said, I never did. Show me a school that I

shut down. And in these diary entries, released by Rand Paul in advance of a hearing that's happening on Wednesday, we will be all over it. Fauci recalls calling Bill de Blasio and convincing him to close New York City's schools. He writes, I spoke with Bill de Blasio, mayor New York City, and convinced him based on what I was saying publicly and my conversation tonight to close the New York City schools. And then he has the nerve in 23 to the New York Times. Show me a school that I shut down. Never. I never did. If his lips are moving, he's lying, which ran Paul knew from the start because he too is a medical doctor and he

understood the snake oil salesman who was across from him time after time after time. So, Megan, you're a lawyer. I'm going to ask you a question. On Wednesday, he comes in under oath, and I understand he has a pardon for everything up to the date of the pardon. But what happens under oath of Ron Paul ask him and says, you said, and you've testified that you never, you in your, or you've said in the past that you never shut down schools. Did you or did you not call the mayor of New York to shut down the schools? And what if he says no? Is he subject then to prosecution for lying on their own?

Yeah, new lies. new lies. New lies would expose him for sure. But I think we may get a lot of Fifth Amendment or we may get him just admitting when he lied or possibly just going with the I don't recall because even admitting he lied, that's fine. Like he can do that with his pardon. He got the greatest pardon you could possibly get under Joe Biden. And so I imagine he's going to be feeling foot loose and fancy free and expecting all of his media buddies to cover for him. That's what I think. I remember when James Comey testified to the House Oversight Committee 245 times, he said he couldn't remember, he didn't know, or it was outside of his expertise. So that's what I think he's going to do. And I think, as bad as all of this is, I still think that there will be people who will still canonize him. And because it became, they have to. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, there's so many people. And their reputations are perfectly aligned with his all, all, all, they go down. Yeah, all CNN, MS, all in that work, PBS, NPR, they've all praised this person.

And they've demonized this critics. And I think they're so, and the Biden administration canonized it. Victor, watch this. Watch this. This was put together by, um, uh, Gravian. They do a good job of collating. Uh, and, but this is media praise of Fauci. Look at these examples. Sotou.

The single most respected voice in the pandemic, it's Dr. Anthony Fauci. The man who's become known as America's doctor. The nation's top infectious disease expert, Anthony Fauci. You are seen to many as a superhero. Dr. Anthony Fauci, American hero and New York Yankee fan. You've done so much for this country in terms of this crisis, so I really appreciate your insight. Who better to give us answers that we can trust than Dr. Anthony Fauci? The perfect person to answer our question.

today joining us now, Dr. Anthony Fauci. Dr. Anthony Fauci, appreciate your candor. Dr. Fauci, appreciate the candor. We appreciate your service to this country. We appreciate your service. Thank you for your service. Thank you for your service. Greatly appreciate your service to America.

Thank you for your 37 years of service, I believe, to seven presidents, and thank you for your work over the past year. The great news is you're sticking around in the Biden administration. We are so grateful to you, Dr. Fauci, for everything you do. Thank you so much for everything you do. Thank you very much for everything that you do. Thanks so much for the work that you do. Thank you very much for the reassurance.

And as always, for all of your public service. Thank you, Dr. Fauci. Yeah. It's so gross. Let me give you just a couple more. Okay, just a couple more from the notes. Okay, Dana Bash, who was featured there of CNN in April of 2021. After his Fauci's heated exchange with Ohio representative Jim Jordan at a hearing,

Fauci wrote in his diary, Dana Bash sent me a text. And then he quotes the text. This is what a sad little pathetic man he is. Who writes down their texts that they've received from people who are on television just so they could keep a note of how many famous people texted them?

Dana Bash sent me a text, quote, I just watched the whole Jordan thing. Again, you're a better man than I. Well, what do you mean? You're not a man. As our friend Wolf Blitzer said to me yesterday, no one would have blamed you if you said simply, Mr. Jordan, go F yourself. So this is Dana Bash, who's still interviewing him on her show, as though she's an objective newsperson, texting him this behind the scenes.

Then there's Jake Tapper. He writes, had dinner over at Jake Tapper and Jen Tapper's home in D.C. Terrific couple. Friendship building. Again, so weird. When in your life, Victor? You and I got to know each other. Were you running home, putting down in your diary, was I?

Friendship building. No, that normal people don't behave like that. their users, right? Which clearly he was. Then Tapper, the most revealing aspect of these pages, writes the Rand Paul team, or how Fauci worked with compliant journalist to shape media narratives. On July 26, 2020, while watching the Assistant Secretary for Health and a fellow member of the White House Task Force be interviewed on CNN's State of the Union, Fauci writes that the assistant secretary for health was talking bullshit about testing with Jake pressing him. Quote, I gave Jake some questions to ask him.

And then Tapper and he were making fun of Laura Ingram of Fox News. After my Laura Ingram hit, Jake Tapper texted me saying sarcastically, quote, Hard to believe Laura Ingram went to Dartmouth, isn't it? All of us alumni are very proud. What the hell? This is a federal official whom he should be cross-examining and pressing and cynical of and pessimistic about. That's what you get paid to do. not chum-chum we Dartmouth alum can't stand Laura Ingram all of it is so stomach-turning yeah i remember

the interviews the problem they had with Laura was that unlike the rest of them she started uncovering who he was and then he could get angry and then have you noticed that all of those all of those um identifications of those networks were all left wing so very quickly he understood there were people at Fox, independent people as well, that were starting to question him in the media. And so at that point, he completely dropped all of the pretense, the veneer that he was disinterested, and he became a hardcore political. And then he began leaking about Trump and they were all, they weaponized the entire thing. And it was, I think we forget that Joe Biden picked that up in the 2020 campaign.

And that was a theme, a meme of that entire, that we follow the science. We follow the science. Dr. Fauci, we're going to keep him. We promised to keep him. And it was as if anybody who was for Trump or for these four scientists were somehow cracked. But Martin Callendorf lost his job at Harvard. And as I said earlier, you walked across the Stanford campus with Scott Atlas and people that he'd known his whole life. I would be walking with them and they would turn the other way and walk in the opposite direction.

You and I talked about it a few times while it was going on. You were horrified. We were horrified too. They did the same thing because Jay was also a Hoover Fellow and they did the same thing to him. I had people, I won't mention names, colleagues that came up to me and said, that's enough. You've done enough. Don't write any more about this guy. And I want to.

And so what I'm saying is this guy, Fauci, created. this whole false narrative that this was a pangling bat accident and he was on top of it. And he was going to shut down the economy, the schools. And then somewhere along the line, these people wouldn't shut up. And they started making persuasive arguments. And they started talking about it. I remember you'll know him. He was the science writer for the New York Times.

They fired. He's been there for 40 years. And he wrote a. Oh, yeah, because he repeated the N-word after someone said it to him. He was saying, it was like someone said it, and he was saying, well, this person said it, could they, you know, should they be in trouble for saying it? He wasn't saying it like calling someone the N-word. No.

He was repeating it because somebody, it came up, like should this person have suffered a consequence for saying it? And he said it in that context. And they fired him for that. Yeah, and he wrote a brilliant exegesis about the whole. Don McNeil. Yes, about the whole status of the debate. and it was very fair.

And basically he said the dominant narrative is no longer can be supported by the evidence. And then Fauci cooked up that fake Lancet investigation. Remember, he had Peter Dasick, and they picked like eight people. 100%. And they went all the way over to China. Let me just set that up, Victor. Let me just set that up, okay?

Because that's a huge piece of what's come out. We knew this, but it's just evidence. Okay. Fauci knew in January of 2020. January. The COVID pandemic hit America, the middle of March 2020. He knew in January that the quote, market was not the source. It was the amplifier.

He wrote in his diary on January 26th, now we know the market was not the source. It was the amplifier. So he knew that. Then we get to February 1st, 2020. And 12 scientists, and he get together, only two concluded this had a natural origin. Per Fauci's own notes, quote, the rest felt that deliberate insertion was possible. Deliberate insertion of the cleavage site, basically the piece of the COVID virus that made it

more transmissible and more deadly to humans. It was man inserted. They could tell in the early versions of the virus. They could tell all of these top virologists. We reported this to our audience at the time. Again, we were one of the first. We went out with a very long talking points memo in January 14th. It was of 2022.

And we laid out exactly, exactly. Today we have proof I'm reading here from our talking points that day that Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins have been willfully misleading the public on COVID's origins in an effort, it turns out, to protect China and themselves. House Republicans finally got their hands on emails between Fauci Collins and some of the world's top virologists discussing early on in the pandemic whether COVID came from a lab. It turns out the very officials who dismissed that as a fringe conspiracy theory in the press were being told exactly the opposite by the world's top experts as early as February 2020.

They've known from the start. On February 1, 2020, Fauci and Collins had a teleconference about COVID's origins with 11 of the world's top virologists. Emails were exchanged the very next day that made clear several of those advising Fauci and Collins believed this virus came from a lab, not some bat or other animal from a wet market or a cave. And this talking points memo goes through

how Fauci then rewarded several of the virologists who flipped from saying national origin to, sorry, from saying it looks like it came from a lab just saying, oh, must be natural origin, with grants from the NIH, multi-million dollar grants for he was so, so super grateful that they had reversed. And this proves that he knew that himself a month earlier, now we know the market was not the source. It was the amplifier.

And it only goes on from there. He knew, Victor, he knew all along. and he knew it was Peter Dasick and EcoHealth Alliance. He was just shoring up his supporters to try to tell us a bunch of bullshit so he did not get tarred with causing the thing. He was being universally praised for fighting. That's the key.

And if you talk to a lot of scientists, we published it, Roger Kimball, I'm on the board of encounter books, but he published Stephen Quay's analysis of the COVID, which overwhelmingly shows, that it was manufactured in the lab under the direction of the people's liberation army and whether it was accidental nobody knows but that was that was true but essentially if you put all the pieces together Megan you get this thing that it's just incredible that a u.s. official with a 50 i don't know

how many billion but he really inflated the role of the National Institute of allergy and infectious diseases to almost equal to any cdc or the National Institute of Health under his, you know, 40 years or how long he was there. But you get the impression that a U.S. official, when that was illegal to conduct that type of research, was very interested in Wuhan. Maybe he wanted the information from it for scientific, maybe for intelligence. Who knows what he was doing. But he allowed Peter Dasik to be a funnel of money to the, and hide that source.

But even more importantly, he greenlighted scientists in the United States that were cooperating via email with that lab. And they would not have been able to get instrumentation and all of that support if it hadn't been for him. And so that was the key to him that he had to keep that narrative quiet because if he did not, somebody was going to say, this is so staggering that the police, who's going to police? this man is telling us all the ways to fight COVID, and yet he was at the center of its birth in some sense in a foreign country. And so then how that developed, then he appointed that Lancet. He got all of his friends, and he thought, well, you know what? The most respected journal is Lancet, and Peter's going to go ahead of team and go over to COVID. The Chinese wouldn't even meet with him unless they told the line. They came out and said it was a, it was not from

lab and even they destroyed the reputation of Lancet. Then they exposed them all, that it was all set up. And when it was all said and done, it was all weaponized and that fed into the Biden administration. And that became a key campaign talking point. Donald Trump is a wacko. The people around him are amateurs. We are the science. I am the science. And you can't question. We're still dealing with this. I've been making the point lately about. People say like, how are all these people in America now so conspiratorial, right? Like they have major conspiratorial instincts. This is how.

This is exactly how they were lied to by government officials at the highest levels over and over with a complicit media that amplified the lies and chat on anybody who called them out as lies, no matter whether they were Stanford and Harvard doctors or, you know, the, who was it, Turning Point Barbie, who we had on our show, not Turning Point, what was her name, Maga Barbie, who we had on our show, who got caught at the Capitol on January 6th. She was like a normal lady who all of her businesses got shut down. I remember that.

And she was just so distraught. But my point is simply, they did it to us. They caused it. You know, it's very funny. And I had this conversation with somebody whom I won't mention, who called me up and said, should be ashamed of yourself because you wrote on behalf of Scott Atlas and these other three.

I did a lot. And I said, you know who these people are? Do you have any idea? They have authored hundreds, thousands of peer-reviewed articles. I said, you know that if you are in neural radiologists, there's this huge to, you can't even lift it. It's so big. It's called MRI and the brain, edited, authored by Scott Atlas. It was the definitive work on how to use the MRI. And they were all experts. They had just as impressive, if not more of impressive, credentials than Fauci. And they were rendered as cranks, nuts, amateurs. They had no right to do anything. And when they started, then finally, Trump started to consult with them. And they started to get a public profile. And that, when you look at the Fauci files, that's when he went.

nuts and they organized a comprehensive effort to destroy them. And I remember Tom and Alex Barrensen too. Alex Barrensen and Tom Cotton on X. Remember he wrote an op-ed saying this thing came from the lab and they went after Tom. Yes. They went after anybody. And it was the media. And they pressured the social media companies to censor people like Berenson. They did. They did. They did. Have their accounts shut down, have them flagged as nuts. YouTube complied. the old X, which used to be Twitter at that time, complied. Person after person who raised questions about this got shut down. It did.

Because Fauci used all that media clout in order to bully people into doing this. You mentioned peer review. Tom Graby, sorry, Tom Elliott, who's the founder of Gravians, who just put together that soundbite we just played. On his substack, wrote about these Fauci files. He writes, across 1141 pages by the nation's senior infectious disease officials. during the largest public health event in a century. Here's how often certain terms appear. Peer review.

Not once. Not once. Meta-analysis. Nothing. Risk benefit. No. Learning loss. No.

Mental health. No. Never. One-time mentions N95. Zero prevalence cost benefit. Twice. Cloth mask, school closure, natural immunity. And then judge it against this.

award 80 hero 49 instagram 36 bobblehead 23 selfie 19 entries headed press 6401 victor that's fouchy's diary and i remember 2020 the the the whole subtext behind all the files was 220 was an election year and Trump had been very controversial, but finally people were starting to agree that the economy was really taking off. So then they shut it all down, and then anybody who objected was a partisan, they called them, and they were following the science, and they systematically, through 2020, basically blew up the deficit, destroyed the economy, destroyed the educational system, and then they characterized that destruction as over the objections of the Yahoo's. And then when Joe Biden was selected, strangely, when everybody dropped out, and he was the nominee, then that was his campaign thing.

I'm going to retain Fauci. He is the science. We're not going to let these people. And they were even lying about, you know, Joe Biden said no one was vaccinated. 17 million people were vaccinated before he even got in there. And then you remember when Pfizer was going to announce that the so-called elect the MRNA vaccinations worked and they were going to do it before the election. And there was so much pressure to delay that announcement until after the election. They said, well, the board was not.

There was no politics, but it was. Everything was politically driven in that cycle about COVID. And he was pulling the strings behind every public official. He was. He was all Fauci. He writes in here, Rochelle Walensky, remember her over at the CDC, May 13th, 2021. Walensky calls to say she is changing the mask guidance for vaccinated Americans, Fauci. She will take my advice.

I'm very pleased that she listened to me. Then he writes, the radical right-wing maniacs who blame me for the rigidity of the CDC recommendations will probably not realize at all that it was me that triggered this change. On vaccines, he writes in September of 2021, the CDC's independent vaccine advisory committee, well, this is what was happening, voted nine to six against the booster recommendations the White House wants. Fauci texts Walensky and writes in his own words that he, quote, begged her to override the vote. His entry, alas, Rochelle listened to me.

She overruled the recommendation of this independent advisory group. He congratulates her on finally showing, quote, clear leadership. So both masks and vaccines and boosters, he was pulling the strings. And finally, this, Victor, just a couple of examples of how more examples of how much he was loving the love. When I left the White House and crossed Pennsylvania in 17th Street, several cars honked their horns and shouted, thank you out the window. This is so bizarre. Wait, let me read you a couple more.

pointing out that he got invited to go on dancing with the stars and was super thrilled that he received that invitation. Okay, great, good for you. That's not tough to get. Then he kept the Washington Post column comparing a Rand Paul cross-examination of him to quote,

watching Albert Einstein being disputed by his dry cleaner. He then kept the Joan Baez portrait and her calling him an American hero. He kept the cookies from Joe and Jill Biden with the note, You are our hero and Julia Roberts gasping on an Instagram live stream that he was her personal hero. Every person who ever paid him a compliment is documented in here. And you know what?

There was also a class element. It was all of these legacy media people who had these degrees they felt from impressive places and this sense of self. And he was right on one thing when Fauci said, I am the science. He was wrong about science, though. What he was really saying is, I am the official face of the establishment version of the science. And that was true. But I think he even said, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, I read it this morning in depth.

But he said, I think he called Laura Ingham or somebody wrote to him, Poria. Is that what they said, Porra, for her Laura? And how did she ever get into Darryam? apartment. I mean, I think it's that one that he got from Tapper. Yeah. Yes. But in that in that text, yeah, he did call her Porra Ingram. Yeah, like who. Tapper did. Who let this person into our school and ran Paul as a dry clean, dry cleaning person. What's wrong with a dry cleaning person? They're very important people. But he's, he just drips this condensation. He's so condescending and he has contempt for people. And it was all part of that, again, that picture that the Yahoo's had taken over Washington and he had his finger in the dike and he was protecting rational people in science. The whole time he was lying and he was irrational. And all the science was absolutely antithetical to everything he was saying and he was saying things that he knew were wrong because he was trying to protect his own

culpability. And I don't know what's going to happen to him, but it makes, if you think about the number of people who died, it even makes the whole. 51 experts who lied about the Hunter laptop and all that stuff looked minor in comparison. And it was really terrible what he did. And the children, like the learning loss, it wasn't just New York where he got the schools closed. And we know that from his own admission. I mean, as I read to you a moment ago, you know, I spoke with Bill de Blasio. I convinced him based on what I was saying publicly in my conversation night to close the New York City schools.

I was there. I mean, we were part of the school system when he did that. And my friend had her kids in those public schools for the duration. And when finally, after nearly 18 months, she attended an open the school's rally. She got called a white supremacist. I remember that. And now she is more MAGA than anyone I know. She is a MAGA hat wearing Trump, you know, supporting, getting people to vote for.

Trump and so's her whole family because of this stuff. But to my point that I was trying to make, he writes, I had a similar call with Ann O'Leary, the chief of staff for Governor Gavin Newsom of California and said, based on my TV appearances today and yesterday, the governor has decided to close the schools in California as well as the bars and restaurants. He wants credit for the learning loss that he inflicted on students in two of the biggest, greatest cities in the world, which went totally over the top with it. This is Jennifer Say, who now runs X, X, X, XY Athletics, lost her job as an executive at Levi's because she was one of

those California moms who said, is this really necessary? This is going on too long. This is not good for the children. And Levi's, those villains, turned on her and basically pushed her out of her dream job just for that. Like the number of consequences, Victor, that happened to so many children, not to mention adults, because of this villain. And then the other villain Joe Biden, who gave him with his magic wand a complete pass for it all. So on Wednesday, we'll be praying, we'll be hoping him praying that he says something new that's false for which he can be indicted, but he knows that's what's going to happen. So he's going to be super careful, or he's going to forget everything. Or he's just going to say on the grounds of, you know, Fifth Amendment, I'd choose not to.

say anything if he thinks he's on quicksand and it will be left biting the heels of our hands again because he's a slippery snake of a man he is and the people but the thing that will save him is there's 50 or 60 marquee journalists that are invested in his lives because they put him on and on and on and they nodded their heads and they praised him like your clip showed and they they don't want him to fail. They want him to be exonerated. And they will write, as sure as the sun comes up, the next day they will write how brave he was and how he spoke truth of power. And what a yokel, Rand Paul, or Jim Jordan, whoever is. And that's how he operates. He was a, he had to give, the reason he was so successful, he turned an otherwise obscure agency into the most

important medical department in the federal government. And in statutory terms, it wasn't. But he did it because he was there so long and he knew how to play politics and ingratiate himself with presidents. And he knew the stakes for him. He did. And he was stabbing Trump in the back all the time. And yet he did persuade Trump to do all these things. And then he was saying, we were developing this strange relationship. I'm working on it. But he was actually trashing Trump through all of his media people. And he was trying to get rid of anybody in the White House that was giving counter advice. And it worked. And he did a lot of damage. And I don't, it's just, it's just a cautionary tale that when somebody can't address the argument and can't address rational

objections and then has to go back to titles and media and reputation, you know, it's, It's toxic, and that's what he did. And you know, the last thing, they didn't even believe it. You remember when all this was going on? Gavin was showing up at the French laundry with his lobby friends without mask. He went down to L.A. at a sporting event without a mask. Nancy Pelosi was going to get our hair done, supposedly to a store, to a hairdress that was shut down, but she opened just up for Nancy.

And we had even Fauci, I think he was at a baseball game. He said, you should wear a mask all the time. and you can see him. There's nobody around it and he has his mask off. They didn't even believe it. Nobody believed. Then he...

We'll never believe our public health officials again. I'm sorry, we just won't. After this, this is so devastating to faith in public officials, never mind public health officials. We just won't. Like, so many people accepted this,

not unquestioningly, but ultimately accepted it because, you know, to some extent, it was like you were forced to live in New York City. Good luck going out to a restaurant if you didn't have your vaccine card with proof of all your... vaccines and so on. I just think we are never going to accept the word of officials in public health again, and that's unfortunate because there actually could come a time when we need to.

It is. And they really mischaracterize the opposition. Those scientists that you interviewed and Scott and others, they weren't saying that it wasn't a dangerous disease. They were saying you're wasting your resources with a scattershot approach. You're going and trying to shut down the schools when they evidence, the scientific proof shows that somebody five to 15 is likely to have a different immune response and can weather the virus without shutting down the entire schools. And unfortunately, you're taking away resources from people 65 and older that we need to concentrate who will die. But that didn't come across. They mischaracterize everything they said.

They said, they just want herd immunity, let it rip. They want to kill everybody. And they didn't. They were saying, you're going to kill people by misallotting the resources that are finite to places where the demography is going to make it through. But the other demography is not. And we learned that in New York with Andrew Cuomo. And there was all of these older people died because we had the same policy across the board. And then when they even inject-

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He couldn't have known. But now it's recently been brought to his attention that Fauci told a bunch of lies. And he and the guy from Axios are going to be the ones to blow the. this story wide open. We look forward to that. Are you serious? I joke. I know I joke, of course.

I thought so. But doesn't it feel like that's what's going to have to happen next, Mr. L. Something like that. The gaslighting will continue. We were just talking in the break with my team about how embarrassing this is. Like, if I were Jake Tapper, I would be humiliated. One of the things that was in my packet, there was a note from, Stephanopoulos to

Fauci, as documented by Fauci in his little diary, where Stephanopoulos wrote, thank you, Tony, so impressive. And I didn't raise it because that actually is normal, I think. Just like, when somebody comes on, you send him a nice note,

you know, somebody from the government who was doing you a solid. He said something nice about how he did on the air. That's normal anchor stuff, to be honest. I'm not going to give Stephanoplas a hard time for that. That shit with Jake Tapper, having him over apparently twice for dinner.

And he's the most controversial person in America, at least one of them, in the government. And you're schmoozing with him. You're ripping on other news anchors. Like this, you crossed a line, bro. You've crossed a line. Like you've gotten too chummy with the subject of what's supposed to be objective reporting. And I think it'd be one thing if his reporting were super hard on Fauci.

And we're like, oh, he was able to do it anyway. But no, he wasn't. And none of them was. I mean, they all loved the guy. He was a superhero to them. And they were just mimicking that no one ever said, we owe him all this things. He's a genius. He's the science.

But they never said why. I remember right during the George Floyd, it was in Minnesota. There were tens of thousands of social health workers, nurses that went out and violated. You remember that? They violated the entire lockdown. They took off Matt. And they were out protesting on behalf of George Floyd. And then they said, we're doing this because the mental health crisis is worse than the COVID.

In other words, they were saying we're already picking and choosing who's exempt from Fauci's lockdown. And it just destroyed all confidence with American people. They said, you know, Gavin's not doing this and Nancy's not doing this. And now we've got people out in the street that's saying that they're actual health workers. And they don't even believe it. They can pick and choose when to be social distancing or isolated. And it just blew up. And everybody said, this is a joke.

These people don't even know. But you know why, Victor? You know why they saw him as such a hero? Because of fear, because of safetyism. Mike Roe does such a good job of calling this out. You know, the founder of the show, dirty jobs. And he spent his whole adult life with guys who are not afraid to live life with a little risk, whether, you know, it's an electrician who's up in the criminal.

working on the lines above us all, like could get electrocuted at any minute, or those construction guys who were dealing with heavy equipment in the middle of the road and very dangerous situations. These guys have courage and they have to exercise it literally every day just to earn a paycheck, which is the opposite of most journalists. I remember that. I had a two-year hiatus from Stanford University's Hoover. You couldn't go on campus at Stanford.

If you went on campus, Megan, and they had your ping, then you were given a text message because you weren't supposed to even be to your office. I'm not talking about a public meeting. I'm saying you wanted to go on office to get a book. You were not allowed to go on campus. And then if you were caught with your ping, then you were given a text message that you had a certain amount of time to go to a kiosk and take a test immediately. And they were tracking you. Oh, my Lord. They were tracking you. And I remember being on the farm here. And it was kind of strange because all within a week, the washer and dryer went out and the oven went out. And I got a catalog.

And here came these people from Home Depot. They were working class people. And I said, are you guys locked down? They said, no, we go into everybody's house every single day. And I said, if we didn't have people like you, what would happen? So for all the lockdown, it was mostly the professional classes. And the teachers and lawyers. And courtroom and media.

But there was the working class. They were still fixing pipes and wiring and delivering stuff to people. And they were risking, according to Fauci, they were interacting with the public. And so he said, in the one hand, we can't, we have to shut down everything. We have to social distance asterisk. But certain classes of people were going to exempt because without them, it really told you who was important. It surely wasn't professors like myself because nobody missed us. And the teachers in K through 12, I think, were missed.

But a lot of the professors weren't. A lot of people in the media weren't. And a lot of lawyers were not missed. But guys that were delivering and fixing things, they were. The safetyism, it reminded me because, you know, we're going to talk about the rejiggered White House correspondence dinner, which just happened. Yeah. And President Trump showed up, to his credit. You know, he, he don't.

Somebody was there to kill him. him at this White House correspondent's dinner that tried to have that they tried to have a couple months ago and they had to cancel it. And Trump said, we're coming back together. I don't care if it's the middle of July. We're coming back together because we're not letting this guy have this heckler's veto. But at the first one where the guy was shooting outside of the ballroom, he never got anywhere near the ballroom. He was on a totally different level. He would have had to take a massive escalator down to get anywhere near the ballroom. And he didn't get close to that. But I understand hearing shots fired someplace outside the ballroom would be disconcerting when you're anywhere

near the president. Just quick aside, there was a great story about a journalist who was with Trump at the America's 250th when he had the UFC event. I think it was Joe Rogan. Yeah, it was Joe Rogan. And Joe Rogan said something to Trump to the effect of like, aren't you worried about, like, getting assassinated or like a bomb going off or something, you know, at one of these events where you are because they want to kill you so badly?

And Trump's basically said, you know, when it's your time, it's your time. And Joe Rogan took a big step away from Donald. Oh, my God. Because that's just Trump. Like, he's, he has no safetyism. He has no fear really in any area of his life. But when you saw the press inside that event, Victor, which clearly was not the main target of that lunatic who was running through the magnetometers, obviously it was Trump or an official

from the White House, all the press. reporting on it later, acted as though they were target number one. They were basically like, you know, the bullet flew past my nose. I barely made it to camera. You know, I mean, they played it up so much. I'm like, just stop. Everyone's fine. The guy's in custody.

You were not almost killed. You're fine. President Trump's not talking about it this way. President Trump has already been on camera saying, let's go back in the room. Let's have the party still tonight. It's only Secret Service that stopped it. And so it's that same group of people that's calling Fauci a hero. We're so grateful to you.

I know it. They live in an echo chamber. They don't lead real lives. They have no physical life at all. I mean, they don't know how to fix anything. They don't know how to relate to people of different classes. They're all confined to that New York, Washington corridor. And they have an exalted, obviously, if you see from Fauci, you have a, you have a exalted,

He has an, I like the idea that we were all saying files now because it's redolent of the Epstein file. And I bet that really, that really bothers him because that's not a very scientific. Fauci heard a lot more people than Epstein did. Oh, a lot more. Amazingly. Millions, millions, millions, millions. And so this really, I don't know, it's hard to say with the whole cover-up of Joe Biden's mental cognitive decline or the Hunter's laptop or the steel dossier. But finally, this one was different because so many people died.

And it was not even that. You remember these Fauci files that have come out? There were people from all over the world from Israel and South America. That their health directors were calling Fauci, and he was bragging that he was setting policy basically for the whole world. Because he was at this, and Ted Ross, he mentions Ted Ross. He's discredited guy at the WHO that was controlled by the Chinese. and everybody was worldwide.

It wasn't just in the United States. It was a global policy that he established. And Europeans were calling him. And there was no reason for that. He had no, it was. Should have been calling him to find out how to cause it. Yes. That's clearly what he did.

There's never been any proof positive that his gain of function research led directly to this, this virus. But we all know that's what happened. They don't have the final piece of it because he wouldn't allow it. He was shutting down that investigation at every turn. He never wanted it. The blanket lifted up that much because he knew, I would argue strongly, he knew what they would find. So we never got it. Yeah, I think so.

But let's move on. Let's keep going because I do want to talk a bit about what happened at the White House Correspondence dinner on Friday night. So good for him. He goes back into the lion's den. He knows they all hate him, Victor. And among other things, he's getting a lot of crap, the president is. for the jokes he told about Caitlin Collins, who is never nice to the president.

She's always nasty. She's always making negative commentary about him. Her questions always have the most negative bent you could possibly go into the questioning with. So the president did what our presidents do. He got up there and he gave her a little jazz, which is kind of what they do. But the president, like the way he did it sought for.

I don't want to personally congratulate CNN's, Caitlin Collins on receiving her award it was all about me it's a fake she shouldn't get the award it was a fake but I didn't mind I said Caitlin congratulations but it was fake there's no question about it

but she's a young attractive woman she never smiles I said Caitlin do you have a smile smile you have a nice position you're at CNN fake news you should be a happy person so smile Caitlin just smile but we attack and I thought Caitlin had really made it big with a major new sponsorship,

but then I informed her that it wasn't her on the Bud Light can. It was Dylan Mulvaney. Okay. Right. You're laughing. I'm laughing too. It's funny. It isn't.

It's clever because it puts the left in such a difficult position, Victor, because they have to say that's not complimentary. so they have to rip on a trans person, which they definitely don't want to do. No. But on the other hand, it wasn't like Barack Obama after ordering 500 assassinations on the Afghan-Pakistan border with predators. And then three U.S. citizens, they probably deserved it, but they were killed. And there was no congressional authorization for any of that. Then he's at the White House dinner, Obama did.

And he said, you know, when guys come near my daughters, I say to the, them, Predator, P-R-E-D-A-T-O. Remember that? And he was making fun of... We have a little bit of that. Here's just a small clip of that, SOT 12. The Jonas brothers are here. They're out there somewhere. Sasha and Malia are huge fans. But boys don't get any ideas. I have two words for you. Predator drones. You will never see it coming. Yeah, they're laughing it up. They love that one.

Yeah, laughing it up. I mean, these were terrorists, supposedly, but that was the decision he made, judged jury and executioner. If you were anywhere near it, we just took them out. And, you know, here we are arguing. I've been reading the media or saying things like, well, Trump may use a dual-use target, a bridge or a power plant in the next round. I'm thinking, well, yeah, that's what Obama did.

He went to Libya and bombed ports and facilities, and Clinton bombed all the bridges on the Danube. But it's very asymmetrical. Their morality, it's all transactional. Yes. So they're also, they're very unhappy. And then today he doubled down on his attack against Caitlin Collins by posting a meme of her face on Dylan Mulvaney's body with those bud light cans. only she's smiling here. So they're horrified by that too.

He's put them in a very difficult position because you basically have to say it's insulting to compare her to Dylan Mulvaney. Why is it insulting? Because Dylan Mulvaney's a man. They just won't close that circle. But we all know why they find it insulting. And they're also upset because he referred to certain people as fat.

It's kind of what Trump. does, he's constantly making fun of, like he joked, that next year Chris Christie would be a part of a UFC fight against J.B. Pritzker in the, quote, heaviest of the heavyweights division. They would be fighting for a big piece of cheesecake, he said. He also said he was told to stop calling Pritzker fat, but he can't help it. So they did not laugh, Victor, they did not think that was funny. I know. They, you know, they didn't seem to have much of a problem when it was Wanda Sykes up there making inappropriate jokes about hoping Rush Limbaugh would die, which Obama thought was funny.

Here's SOT 11. This is from 2009. Rush Limbaugh, I hope the country fails. I hope his kidneys fail. How about that? He needs a good waterboarding. That's what he needs. So which is more offensive when you think it's funny that someone has hoped that Rush Limbaugh's

kidneys fail and that he dies or that the president says these two guys are overweight and should battle for a piece of cheesecake. Yeah, I mean, here's a president that had three assassination attempts in which the Secret Service returned fire at the purported shooter. And Robert De Niro, De Niro says, I think he's on three times now on record of saying he wants to hit the president in the face. But Donna said she wanted to blow up the White House. Kathy Griffin basically wanted them beheaded. The Shakespeare in the park, as I remember, made Caesar, Shakespeare's Caesar as Trump being stabbed by all of the conspirators. And then we had Snoop Dog shooting them.

I think the celebrity chef Burdine said he would like to poison him. So that's okay. But they threatened to kill the president our top celebrities and no one said a word. And then that was in a climate that later, you know, if, If you were a leftist, you would say, you people lowered the bar of the acceptable about killing the president and therefore that you brought out all the nuts. And you could say it about all the left. Chuck Schumer said you, Gorsuch, Calvonall, you sowed the wind. You're going to reap the whirlwind.

You don't know what's going to hit you. And then, you know, a year and a half later, two years, an assassin shows up at Gorsuch's home. But they never, it's all one way. And I think that's what that drives Trump crazy. and he uses the word fake news and he gets angry and then they say he's not professional. But they're very sober and judicious and they do really terrible things. And they think that the, I guess it's the method and the methodology is more important to them than the message. So if you can say you want to kill Trump, but you have a title and you're sober and you do it in a very professional manner, then it's okay.

But if it's never the content, it's the manner and who you are and how you do it. Trump doesn't care. Think about this. Where's their outrage about Anthony Fauci lying to them for for months and years? About Anthony Fauci leading to all those deaths about Anthony Fauci literally resulting in the abuse, a serial abuse of children who weren't allowed to go to school or learn or play basketball or, you know, et cetera. Get fat.

Who are getting fat because they weren't allowed to exercise, which is very bad for kids. Where's their outrage about that as opposed to dumb fat jokes at the White House correspondence dinner. What, what, here's what we saw. CNN had like a little running ticker on the side of its presidential feed with their little comments. And here's Brian Stelter. I'm sure a few, it's hard to read. I'm sure a few of his jabs will travel well on social media. But the fat jokes in, in quotations, just seemed sad. Then you get MS now. Trump made a mockery out of the White House Correspondence Association, Washington Post. Trump's insult-laden speech to press dinner draws mostly stunned silence.

The Washington Post tweeted out, he told a sex joke and several fat jokes. He called Senator Adam Schiff watermelon head. What is who cares? What is that? He went on long tangents. President Trump's speech at the White House correspondent's dinner swerved between jokes that fell flat and flat-out insults. Well, yeah. I mean, of course they fell flat in front of this crowd, which is probably why Trump won't do it again because they are not in good humor about themselves. That's the last group of things that they could laugh about.

No, they only laugh when somebody that they despises on the other end of the receiving end. But the funny thing about it is they make jokes all the time about Trump's weight. They always say that he's an 80 or near oxygenarian and he's he eats. Big Macs and he's overweight and they have all their cartoon. And his skin color and his hair. His hair, everything about him. They all show that he's a wrecked. And I can remember that bandy Lee said he was crazy and he needed to have intervention. And we remember that Andrew McCabe and Ron Rosenstein were going to tape him because they found out, they said they could prove he was mentally ill.

They talked about doing that. That was the whole idea that he was out of shape, that he was going to die any day. They have just the other day. I saw some media person said he wears diapers and he smells. He's too heavy. They do that all the time. And they don't do it just an occasion. They do it as part of the normal news reporting or interviewing.

And so I don't think any, the only good thing about it is I don't, I think we're at peak media turnoff. And I think most people are fatigued by them now. They just think, you know what? We don't really, we don't care what you say about Trump. Maybe some of it's true, maybe some of it's not. Maybe exclude here and there. But we don't care anymore because you're totally discredited. We don't listen to you anymore. We don't listen to you anymore. So Don Lemon was on the receiving end of the most gentle Trump barb ever. Like he passingly called him low IQ. That's okay. That's a day ending in why for Trump if he doesn't like you or if he's pissed off at you. Like Lemon felt the need to respond, VDH. And I want to, I feel the need to give a. I feel the need to give a. a viewer warning here. He responded from his bed wearing no clothes. So let's see. Let's check in. Because of course, God forbid he'd not use the moment to make it about himself and paint himself as though he were the star of Trump's remarks. Here it is. So it's Friday night. I'm in bed. I'm trying to chill. And then my phone starts blowing it. We're all here. We're all hanging out. Like, going to bed,

having a quiet Friday night. And my phone starts blowing up. People are saying, some old man is on television, feeble old man ranting about you. Well, it turns out it's Donald Trump. That's who it is. Donald Trump talking about me at the White House correspondent center. Donald Trump, I'm not even in the room. Why are you talking about me instead of making things better for the average American? Why aren't you doing that?

Why aren't you trying to get us out of a war that you started? Why aren't you trying to get us out of these high gas prices? Like, do something to help people instead of, like, ranting about me. why are you so obsessed with me no wonder if you'll ask me like if you're going to run for president because I'd certainly be a better one than you I wouldn't be obsessed with you

he's obsessed with himself it's so silly he starts saying that Trump is obsessed with him and then he starts talking about himself and he's going to run for president and he would be a better president and then suddenly the whole thing's about him is it always is so yeah that's who he's obsessed with

Like, why he's so obsessed with me? Oh, my God. Like, that's his go-to, perceived, clever remark whenever anybody talks about him. I mean, like, Trump, that's what he does. He gives it back to journalists who give it to him. Yeah. That's one of his signatures, and they can't stand it. He doesn't understand when you get in the ring with Donald Trump, if you look at the graveyard of major media people at MS, M.S, what was MSNBC and CNN, he,

Trump has done something to them that they destroyed their careers. And they're, you know what I mean? There's a whole, there's a whole graveyard of people in Pollock, the never Trump people that were very columnist, major conservative and liberal op-ed writers that were so obsessed. I'm talking about New York Times, Washington Post, they have all destroyed themselves. And they don't understand, you know.

Look at all these people who were very prominent, John Bolton, gosh, everybody quoted him. And yet he was so obsessed he had to write a memoir and time it to the 2020 election. So it would destroy Trump, even though he was warned by a federal judge that, you know, your book is going to come out. But you're going to face consequences sometimes because you violated confidentiality laws. And it was Joe Biden's DOJ that began that investigation, even though the media was like, oh, Trump, this is part of his retribution campaign. is like, Joe Biden started it and Bolton pled guilty. So I'd love to hear your acknowledgement that this wasn't Trump's lawfare.

Yeah. And all Bolton had to do was saying, you know, I always wanted to be in government and no one would ever confirm me. And even when I was UN ambassador under Bush, it was a recess appointment. And Trump gave me the opportunity of a lifetime to be national security advisor. And I took that to almost immediately craft a strategy to make him look stupid. and then time it to make a lot of money on a bestseller. And he single-handedly destroyed his own career. Comey destroyed his own career. Robert Mueller destroyed his reputation.

Andrew McCabe destroyed his reputation. Mark Millie destroyed his reputation. Some of the most illustrious generals destroyed their reputations because they were just so obsessive. Bill Crystal used to be on everybody's TV show. He just endorsed Mondami. He said he would have voted for him. So I don't know what it is about Trump, but there's something about him that people get so obsessed.

I don't know if it's his appearance or his behavior or his accent, but they become obsessed with him. Don Lemon basically destroyed his own career. Vine Seltzer destroyed his career. All these people did because that's all they talked about, nonstop. And they never have any self-awareness, self-reflection of what they, what they became. The whole... Oh, he just got so excited to hear, like, his name mentioned in any public setting. Like, I'm relevant, I'm relevant.

He did. And then thought people would admire him with his shirt off. Well, they don't. No. And they think if you hate Trump, then all of a sudden you're in and you're, that's acceptable, and everybody's going to like you. But there's, you know, there's only one Trump, but he can't go around that much. there's so many people that are using him to say that he hates me, he hates me, I'm a victim,

rally to my cause. And it's just they, and they say crazy. Robert De Niro was an acclaimed actor and he became so obsessed with Donald. He can't finish the sentence without talking about physically hitting him. It's really embarrassing. Okay, now, I want to, I want to stay on this, you know, what's happening to these journalists slash men of of the left. It's the same group, obviously. I don't watch sports and I don't really cover a lot of sports in this

show unless it becomes news. But this guy has become news. And now his name is Ryan Clark. And up until very recently, he worked for ESPN, Victor, and he was super, super confident when he wanted to rip on anything

relating to MAGA, Trump, or Republican politics, including Charlie Kerr, Listen here. First off, it's the second most ridiculous thing he said this week. The first was standing on campus and saying he wanted to put a statue up with somebody that doesn't represent the people of Louisiana, doesn't represent the players and the students at LSU, doesn't represent the executives that worked there. That was the first dumb thing, he said, this week.

This is the second dumbest. He's ripping there on the Louisiana governor for wanting a Charlie Kirk statue at the university, which clearly he objected to. So super bold and Scott his strong opinions. Okay, great. Don't be afraid to express them. And then ESPN fired him this week or last week in the round of making some layoffs, I guess.

And it didn't go very well. He didn't handle it very well. Here's how that sounded. When I go home and this kid, you know, from the West Bank is like so accepted in New Orleans now. Like, I wouldn't change that. You know? Never.

You know, like, all I ever wanted to do is be accepted. You know, and want it and want it. So. I'm like, I'm sorry. It's just beneath the dignity, right? To, like, go out there. All I ever wanted was to be accepted. What are you talking about the layoffs? Like, companies do it.

It's unpleasant for everyone. It doesn't mean anything about you personally. Obviously, you weren't one of their top stars. They would have kept you. So he's not wrong there. But just one more for you, Victor Jason Whitlock found this. This guy full of, was this false

hubris or what? Because this is how he talked about himself separate and apart from this. Listen here. He said, I don't know about everybody else. I don't know about every other show. I don't know what they're going to take you off. I don't know what they're going to put you on. I don't know about that.

But you'll be on Monday night countdown. You'll work at halftime. You're gonna finish every night with Scott because you the best we have. Hmm. And I remember walking back to the trailer like skipping. You know what I'm saying? Because I was so down and I was hiding it.

Because I was like, man, they're gonna, like they don't try to get me over this. Like, do they even? And I just remember walking back and being like, he's right. I am actually. The best. You know, I've heard him a couple of times. He's not the best. Yeah, you go.

And he's obsessed with race. That's why he was fired, I think, because almost every single episode where he starts off script, he starts talking about race and racial this and racial that and racial that. And he misread his audience. People in the country have that fatigue.

They want to go beyond it. They don't think race is essential to your persona anymore. They've been through the George Floyd. They've been through the last six years. They understand all of these different issues, but one thing they agree on is the country won't make it. If we have these demagogues that keep trying to essentialize race, race, race, focus and use it and leverage it for their own group. And they're tired of it. So there was no audience for what he was saying.

In fact, there was a, he was bleeding an audience. And he didn't understand that. And he kept, he thought it was still 2020. money. And, you know, everybody was giving a DEI repertory benefits to people based on their skin color. And that's not. We were transcended that. I think people really fatigued out of that issue as well. Well, except for Nancy Armour over at USA Today. Yeah, well, that's an exception. It's incredible, right? This audience says, we've been talking about this nutcase for years on this show because she's so pro

trans athletes running in women's track and field and playing in girls sports. I mean, she's never seen the trans athlete she wants to ban from the girl's sport, no matter how much danger it puts the girls in. And now she writes this insane piece about Caitlin

Clark, how she has to stop, quote, flopping where you overact in response to an alleged injury in order to get a foul because of Emmett Till. Literally, that's what she wrote, because how many years ago, 60 years ago, Emmett Till was lynched.

And as a result of that, by white racists in Mississippi. And as a result of that, Caitlin Clark should not flop because the WMBA is mostly black women and she's creating that same risk for them. I mean, literally this woman wrote this in the USA Today newspaper.

And it was so crazy that there was kind of universal backlash against USA's like you've lost your minds. So then she posted this to her ex-account, Victor. In my recent column, I made an inartful comparison with the murder of Emmett Till, the murder of Emmett Till. I intended to connect the issues the WMBA is currently facing with its All-Star game being hosted in Till's hometown of Chicago. I obviously did not provide enough context for that. See, that was the problem. She needed more context in order for us not to be offended. However, this point stands. There is a history in this country of perceived threats to white women being weaponized against African Americans and the danger that poses to

black players in the league. Players have been abused online and have reported receiving death threats that has to be taken more seriously. I sincerely regret that my lack of appropriate context is overshadowing that important conversation and the action that needs to be taken by the WMBA to address it directly for the benefit of all players. And now USA Today has updated its original piece by her. The paragraph used to end. There should also be an expectation on Clark to recognize the wider consequences of her actions. Their big change in USA Today was to change to, there should also be an expectation on Clark to recognize the broader implications of her actions being weaponized. So they've basically made no changes, but they've had her flog herself

on X in response to the outrage because this woman's a lunatic. She's standing by her point. Yes, she also thinks it's 2020. You know, in all crime, I think only 7% of violent crime is interracial. So it's not the norm. But in interracial, but in interracial crimes going from battery to assault to murder, it's about six to one. And even greater in some cases, black on white than white on black. So when she says, you know, there's this fear, but that doesn't resonate with reality. For whatever reason, if you are a white person and there's a rare instance of a crime and you're a black person, it's statistically proven. You're much more likely to be a white victim than a white assaulter. That's just a fact. So when she says this, it doesn't make sense. And then

people see with their own eyes what's going on in the Women's National Bassball Association. And they can see that people are trying to not just foul her, but flagrantly try to hurt her again and again and again. And then you read the commentary by left-wing people. And it turns everything around from this kind of, she's kind of, I understand that there was much less, much more racism with Jackie Robinson. What made him famous was he was a minority who got a lot of attention because of his skills and everybody and there were people that tried to hurt him. And the same thing is true of her. She's, she's not just a white player. She's probably the best player in the entire association's history or the best potential. And there's people who regret that because

she is bringing money and attention, not because she's white alone and the oddball in that league, but because she's so talented. And that is considered a black domain culturally. And so there's all this animosity to her that boils over in physical violence. And everybody knows it. And so all these white liberal people try to contextualize it and excuse it. And they don't understand that at some point it's going to reach a quesendo if they don't stop it. Somebody's going to, you know, permanently injure her because that's the point. And it's truly it's blaming the victim by this fancy arm. It is.

It is. And Caitlin Clark, if anything, she plays a lot of this stuff down. She does. It's her teammates who will stand up in defense of her. And what she's saying is anytime she stands up for herself or, If she is flopping, virtually everybody in the league does it. And in the NBA, too, they do it. She's not allowed to.

She's not allowed because of her skin color. Yeah. And everybody knows the dynamic behind it is that was a little watched league. And it was broke. And it was an appendage and adjacent to the national basketball that was subsidized. Everybody who owned a franchise was losing money. So she came in as the best player in college basketball and was phenomenal. She happened to be white in a black dominated league.

And sure enough, she got media attention and she brought fans, but the bottom line is she made all of this money. So she enriched all of their contracts, their travel arrangements. It was all in the good of the league. And yet they couldn't see that. So they would rather have her out and be poor than have her in than to be well off. And that's what the whole, that's the whole calculus of the whole anger. Everybody knows that. So this stupid sports writer can't see the truth.

And she writes this and the readership says, what a liar. We know what's going on. And they're so done with that anyway. They're tired of self-performance art, white, left-wing people who are trying to get virtue signal points by adopting positions that don't jive with reality, just to have this self-satisfaction that I'm more virtuous than you are. I can write about Emmett Till and you don't, you know, make some preposterous connection to show how racially advanced or liberated I am.

When most people just, you know, it's live and let live. We don't treat anybody any different by their skin color. We all are in the same boat together. Let's make it incidental to who we are because it won't work. We don't want to end up like Brazil or India or Indonesia, democracies where everybody has a cast or skin color and they're at each other's throats. And that's the future when you have op-ed writers like that, if they get their way, or Ryan Clark. So I think the fact that these people are being fired or discredited is a sign that, again, just like with the mainstream media, we understand now.

I think finally after the four, five, six years, seven years, six years after George Floyd, that if you go down, keep going down that trajectory, you're not going to have a country. It's going to be something like a third world multiracial, chauvinistic caste system democracy. And it's not. It won't work. And I think everybody knows it. And they're sick of it. Only the most politically active amongst us, white or black, are the ones pushing those weird narratives and lines. Normal people of all races are rolling their eyes like, what are you, what are we talking?

Why are we comparing the WMBA and flopping to what happened to Emmett Till? I mean, a lot of the people who were offended were black Americans who remember that story very well and don't want to see it used by some woke, white, middle-aged woman who's trying to make herself feel better about her white skin when she goes to bed at night. They know exactly what Nancy Armour is doing. And to bring up one of the country's darkest, most evil episodes so casually and inject it into women's basketball is disgusting and really, diminishing, and I think they got a fair amount of blowback, which is why they did their lame little edit and made her tweet something quite clearly. But Nancy Armour should be fired. She should have been fired long ago for her trans mania. But this should really be the last straw. This woman shouldn't be anywhere near USA today. The fact that they allow her to remain tells us what we need

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VDH is back with me. I love Shannon Bream. That was Shannon interviewing the head of the Democrat Social for America, Victor, and she's a co-chair. And there she is, you know, laying it on the line. Her name is Megan Romer. She was elected as one of their inaugural member elected chairs after their 2023 convention. She calls herself a socialist with Presbyterian characteristics. I don't know. Not sure what that means. Grew up very poor in a trailer park, she says, in rural upstate New York. She said, in her 30, she followed politics through John Stewart's

The Daily Show, explains a lot, was once an enthusiastic Hillary Clinton supporter, did a brief stint in community college, and now she's running this group. And there it is, just in case people think we're all making up this crazy platform the DSA stands for, we're not. She owned it all. And yet, they're winning in places like New York and possibly beyond. We'll see what happens in Michigan. Yeah, I saw that registration numbers of the, it's 85% white. and I think Nate Silver pointed out 65% of them have degrees. And they're so far, I mean, they may, they may.

They have degrees, but they don't earn that much. That was the thing that Nate Silver was pointing out. You're overeducated, and yet you haven't landed some big paying job, so you're bitter. And he came up with that kind of damning adjective, downwardly mobile. And that's what they are. And so they go in Denver and L.A. and San Francisco and Washington and New York, they rubbed shoulders. with all these wealthy people in law, media,

medicine, especially finance, insurance, investment, and they're just as glib, and yet they can't buy an Upper West Side apartment or they can't buy a place in Boulder, a Victorian or something, and they

blame the whole system for it. It's a top down phenomenon. It's not I live in one of the poorest counties in California, which is one of the poorest in the nation, the nexus between King, to Larry in Fresno County. And I can tell you, I don't see any of it here from working people. And on the farm, when people come on, electricians, plumbers, tractor drivers, I talk to them every day. Nobody talks to social, they talk about gas, or they want to get a new business, or they want to get a new job, or they, who's paying what, where.

But this is a top-down phenomenon. You can look at the profile of these people. Mondami was a very privileged kid. He grew up with this child of two professors. He keeps calling Israel settler colonialists, but my gosh, the Indian community in Uganda was 1%. And it was put there by the British Empire, and it controls 65% of the GDP of Uganda. And then he says, he says nicer, wider neighborhoods, but actually he should say nicer Indian American, because they're the richest ethnic minority in the United States by per capita income. Hassan Piker keeps taught. He has a Mowler suit on.

when he gave that lecture 70 million people mal killed this guy drives a porous she bought almost a three million dollar house in west hollywood his parents are immigrants are very wealthy the same thing is true of glam gram platinum now out here in california has become a veritable socialist he's talking about all these taxes on his in-laws are worth 200 million his kids have a golf course in their name his wife drives a 200,000 dollar range rover. It's a top-down, frustrated elite, just like the French Revolution, just like the revolutions of 1848, just like the Bolsheviks, top-down. It doesn't mean it won't succeed, but so far they try to create momentum that's not there because we'll see if

Tala Rico and Saeed and whoever is in Maine wins, and that would show you that they have support in mostly blue states, except for Texas. Well, Trump is calling him Tala Freco now. I want to show you what Tim Dillon had to say about the DSA over the weekend. He's always worth a listen. SOT 18 here. One beat, one beat. And the DSA is made up of Muslims and trans people and white kids from Bushwick or whatever.

So it's an interesting alliance of people. I don't know how it will work. And I don't know how that all works. But that is what's going on right now in our country. That is where the excitement is with young Muslim people and young trans people and very skinny white guys from the Midwest. And those people are a real insurgency and the Democratic Party's old and boring and bloated and corrupt. He's right about that. And it's also, as I said, first and second.

generation well-off immigrants. Chevalier and Mondami. She's a nutcase. Yeah, they all are. And the woman Kuros that came from Ethiopia, she said that reparations, they arrive in this country from these failed socials, these failed horrible places. And then they put their finger in the air and they think, wow, where is the advantages in this new U.S.? A DEI fellowships, victim class, media attention or being a conservative, you know, electrician. I want to go left wing. And then they start trashing this generous host that accepted them. And they start romanticizing the world that they abandoned.

That's in a mess. Yeah, they want to bring those values here. Yeah. I just want to make one point quickly. We'll expand on it tomorrow because we didn't really get to it, but we teased you at the top of the show. The DNC is in a lot of trouble, too. There's a deep dive in the New York Times about how they're in debt, real debt.

They are $2 million bucks in debt. The RNC has $128 million cash on hand. So this has a lot of Democrats worried and frustrated. And the head of this group, Ken Martin is the chairman of the DNC, now coming under similar allegations to ones we saw against Troy Jackson, who's now the Democrat nominee to run against Susan Collins in Maine, accused in early July of throwing his phone at the desk of a junior aide while upbraiding the person.

The incident resulted in a formal complaint to the DNC's Human Resources Department. No one witnessed the encounter. And there was some dispute over how aggressively the phone was tossed. But I'm guessing if you're disputing how aggressively the phone was tossed about instead of whether it was, Victor. It's not a winning day for the new chairman of the DNC as they face. A veritable cat. Is there named Katie Porter here in California that did the same thing?

No, this one's close. Ken Martin. It's great to see you, my friend. You're looking well. Stay well. And we hope to talk to you again very soon. Thank you, for you. Tomorrow, it's shocking news on Brian Colberger.

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