The Megyn Kelly Show - Hillary Clinton Questioned in Epstein Probe, Elite Supreme Court Lawyer Convicted: AM Update 2/27
Episode Date: February 27, 2026Hillary Clinton testifies behind closed doors before the House Oversight Committee as lawmakers press for answers about Jeffrey Epstein and the DOJ’s handling of the case. New reporting raises leg...al questions after the FBI allegedly subpoenaed phone records and secretly recorded a call between current White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles and her attorney. A prominent Supreme Court litigator falls from grace as SCOTUSblog co-founder Tom Goldstein is convicted on federal tax charges tied to millions in undisclosed high-stakes poker winnings. A twist in the death of NHL star Johnny Gaudreau as the accused driver claims new testing shows he was not legally drunk when he struck and killed Gaudreau and his brother. Herald Group: Learn more at https://GuardYourCard.com PureTalk: Tired of big wireless prices? Switch to PureTalk for unlimited talk and text for $25/month—dial #250 and say MEGYN KELLY for 50% off your first month. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. It's Friday, February 27, 2026, and this is your AM update.
I never met Jeffrey Epstein, never had any connection or communication with him.
Hillary Clinton appears before the House Oversight Committee in its search for answers on Jeffrey Epstein.
New reporting claims current White House Chief of Staff, Susie Wiles' phone call with her lawyer,
was secretly recorded by the FBI. Attorney Will Chamberlain breaks it down.
An elite Supreme Court litigator convicted of tax evasion relating to his secret life as a high-stakes poker player.
Okay, how much have you had to drink today?
I mean, I've been drinking beers.
A twist in the murder case against the man accused of killing hockey star Johnny Goodrow, as the accused driver now claims he was not legally drunk at the time of the accident.
All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM update.
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Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton appearing behind closed doors before the House Oversight
Committee in a long sought-after deposition tied to the panel's investigation into the DOJ's
handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case. Lawmakers traveling to Chappaquin.
New York, the Clinton's hometown, for two days of depositions with former President Bill Clinton
set to testify later today. After months of delay and theatrics in response to their subpoenas,
remember, every person has to decide when they have seen or had enough and are ready to fight
for this country, its principles and its people, no matter the consequences. For us,
that time is now, just before they caved like an overdone souffle.
Now, both Clinton's agreeing to sit for questioning. Both deny any wrongdoing related to Jeffrey
Epstein and Galane Maxwell. Former President Bill Clinton, long known to have associated with
Epstein throughout the early 2000s, including multiple trips on Epstein's private jet and a questionable
picture involving Epstein's hot tub and a woman. Ebstein's associate Galane Maxwell,
notably photographed at Chelsea Clinton's 2010 wedding after Epstein's conviction.
Chairman James Comer yesterday ahead of the deposition.
It is a bipartisan investigation.
The American people have a lot of questions.
To my knowledge, the Clintons haven't answered very many,
if any, questions about their knowledge or involvement with Epstein and Maxwell.
Again, no one's accusing at this moment the Clintons of any wrongdoing.
They're going to have due process.
But we have a lot of questions.
And the purpose of the whole investigation is to try to understand many things about
Epstein, how did he accumulate so much wealth? How was he able to surround himself with some of the
most powerful men in the world? Was he an asset for our government or any other government?
These are the questions that we're going to ask over the next two days.
CNN reporting the Clintons and the committee members agreed to focus on five areas,
alleged mismanagement of the DOJ's investigation into Epstein and Maxwell,
the circumstances and subsequent investigations of Ebbstein.
Epstein's 2019 death, ways the federal government could effectively combat sex trafficking rings,
how Epstein and Maxwell sought to curry favor to protect their illegal activities, and potential
violations of ethics rules related to elected officials. In her opening statement,
Secretary Clinton saying, quote, I do not recall ever encountering Mr. Epstein. I never flew on his
plane or visited his island, homes, or offices. I have nothing to add to that. You have compelled
me to testify, fully aware that I have no knowledge that would assist your investigation.
in order to distract attention from President Trump's actions
and to cover them up despite legitimate calls for answers.
The biggest disruption of the day coming after a photo from inside the closed door deposition leaked online.
Podcast host Benny Johnson posting a photo taken by Congresswoman Lauren Bobert,
showing Mrs. Clinton seated at the table in a blue suit.
The proceedings on hold for about 30 minutes after the image went viral before resuming as scheduled.
After hours of questioning, Secretary Clinton speaking to reporters after.
Well, I have just finished testifying. I answered every one of their questions as fully as I could based on what I knew.
And what I knew is what I said in my statement this morning.
I never met Jeffrey Epstein, never had any connection or communication with him.
I knew Delane Maxwell casually as an acquaintance.
But whatever they asked me, I did my very best to respond.
I don't know how many times I had to say.
I did not know Jeffrey Hepstein.
I never went to his island.
I never went to his homes.
I never went to his offices.
So it's on the record numerous times.
Chairman Comer stating earlier in the day,
the committee will release the video and the transcript of the deposition
following the standard review process between both parties.
Meantime, more high-profile fallout
tied to newly disclosed Epstein records.
World Economic Forum president, Borga Brenda,
stepping down after documents showed he met Epstein
for three business dinners in 2018 and 2019,
as well as exchanging texts and emails.
Stateside, former Harvard president, Larry Summers,
will officially resign from his teaching role at the university
at the end of the academic year.
records released in November revealing a close personal relationship between Epstein and Summers,
with Epstein at one point referring to himself as the married Summers's wingman.
Summers has been on leave from Harvard since November, also stepping down from his role
on the board of OpenAI late last year.
New reporting from Reuters revealing the FBI subpoenaed the phone records of FBI
director Cash Patel and White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles when they were private citizens
and even secretly recorded a phone call between Wiles and her lawyer. According to the report,
the as-yet-unnamed attorney was aware of and consented to the recording, but Wiles was unaware
she was being taped, that attorney now reportedly disputing that accusation. Director Patel telling
Reuters that in 2022 and 23, the FBI subpoenaed toll records from their phone companies,
which indicate when calls were placed and to whom, but not the content of the calls themselves.
The timing of the records makes it likely they were part of former Special Counsel Jack Smith's
investigation into President Trump's alleged mishandling of classified materials at Mar-a-Lago.
Patel also telling the outlet that investigators marked the files as prohibited, making them
difficult to locate in the Bureau's computer system. Roiders reporting it remains unclear why investigators
sought the records, whether Patel or Wiles themselves were under investigation, or who approved the
subpoenas. At least 10 FBI employees dismissed following the discovery of the subpoenas,
according to the outlet. In a statement to Reuters, Patel writing, quote,
It is outrageous and deeply alarming that the previous FBI leadership secretly subpoenaed my own phone
records, along with those of now White House Chief of Staff, Susie Wiles, using flimsy pretexts and
burying the entire process in prohibited case files designed to evade all oversight. We spoke with
Senior Counsel at the Article III Project, Will Chamberlain, who says the Reuters report buried
the most explosive detail. Yeah, so there's a piece of reporting from the Reuters article
where the story was all broken, and it had this small tidbit buried 10 paragraphs down.
that mentioned that the FBI had recorded a phone call between Susie Wiles and her lawyer,
and that the lawyer had been aware that the phone call is being recorded and consented to it,
but Wiles herself was not aware.
That, as a lawyer myself, that shocked me.
That's not something I would ever do as a lawyer to my client.
It violates a number of different rules of professional responsibility.
And moreover, it potentially opens up criminal liability and civil liability to both
Wiles' lawyer and to the FBI agents involved.
The lawyer in question now disputes that he was aware the FBI was recording the call,
telling Axios reporter Mark Caputo, quote,
If I ever pulled a stunt like that, I wouldn't and shouldn't have a license to practice law.
I'm as shocked as Susie.
We asked Chamberlain what the legal implications could be if the Reuters reporting is correct.
Under 18 U.S.C. Section 2511,
it's a federal crime to wrongly intercept or disclose wire communications,
and that's up to a five-year count.
Even if there's a warrant, federal law enforcement is under the obligation
to try and minimize the collection of privileged information,
and here they did the opposite, and they actively sought it out,
which is just unheard of.
So, you know, even if they have a warrant to tap Susie Wiles' phone or something like that,
actively trying to make a phone call happen between Wiles and her lawyer that she thinks is
privileged is not something that would be covered by such a warrant. And therefore, it could easily
be seen as a crime, as, you know, the wrongful use of a wiretap and subject the FBI to criminal
liability and also potentially a conspiracy claim is a conspiracy charge as well.
Axios' Caputo reports Wiles believes her attorney's denial that he knew anything about this
and thinks the Biden FBI may have lied about the incident.
Chamberlain saying this reporting raises more questions about the actions of the Biden FBI.
I'm willing to take Susie Wiles' lawyer at his word
because, as we discussed, the conduct alleged here would be outrageous for any lawyer to engage in.
That said, this opens up a whole bunch of other questions.
Who at the FBI would have lied about this,
are the people who briefed Reuters being dishonest, or perhaps was it the Biden FBI officials
who filed the paperwork about this phone call when it happened? Did they lie about the consent
being given by Wiles' lawyers? So I have a lot more questions than answers now, even as I
think that the Wiles' lawyer was likely telling the truth.
Coming up, one of the most respected members of the U.S. Supreme Court
bar convicted after hiding millions in income from a shadow career at high stakes poker tables.
The man charged in connection with the death of hockey star Johnny Goodrow and his brother Maddie,
now claiming prosecutors got the blood alcohol evidence wrong and pushing to dismiss the case.
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Revereed Supreme Court litigator and Scotis blog,
co-founder Tom Goldstein,
convicted Wednesday of felony federal tax evasion and related charges tied to his secret high-stakes poker
activities. Goldstein, widely known as one of the foremost Supreme Court litigators, a sober, serious,
and very well-respected advocate, arguing more than 40 cases before the high court, that is,
before he abruptly stepped away in 2023. According to his bio, quote, only three lawyers in the court's
modern history have argued more cases in private practice. He was counsel on more successful petitions
for certiorari requests asking the justices to take up a case than any other lawyer in private practice.
Outside the courtroom, Goldstein co-founding SCOTUS blog in 2002, a site which quickly became
essential reading for court watchers, earning national prominence for real-time analysis of Supreme
Court decisions, including its pivotal role in clarifying the high court's ruling on the affordable
Care Act or Obamacare in 2012. Here, the moment when yours truly corrected the record live on air
after early confusion by others about the Obamacare decision.
...the news here on the Fox News channel, the individual mandate has been ruled unconstitutional.
He says the individual mandate cannot be sustained under Congress's power to regulate commerce.
That means the mandate is gone.
Megan, you're seeing something now.
We're getting conflicting information.
We're getting conflicting information.
If you follow scotusblog.com, which covers the high court,
they say that despite what Shannon just read,
that the individual mandate is surviving as a tax.
This is not confirmed by us yet.
This is according to Scotis blog, which also has the opinion.
They're reporting that the individual mandate survives as a tax.
So it may have been struck down under the Commerce Clause power,
but spared under the taxing power.
Everyone's still trying to figure this out. It's very fluid right now. Behind that prestige and veneer
of respectability, we now know Goldstein was living a double life, a federal grand jury returning a 22-count
indictment against him in January 2025, stunning the legal world. A judge ultimately dismissing six
of the charges leaving 16, including one count of tax evasion, eight counts of aiding and abetting
in the preparation of false and fraudulent tax returns, four counts of willful,
failure to pay taxes and three counts of making a false statement on a loan application.
Prosecutors alleging that between 2016 and 2023, while running an elite boutique law firm and
regularly appearing before the most prestigious court in the world, Goldstein was regularly playing
in high-stakes poker games involving millions of dollars and then not coming clean about those
millions. According to the indictment, he diverted legal fees owed to his firm into his
own personal accounts, using that money to cover his gambling debts, and allegedly used firm assets
to pay off poker losses, disguising those payments as legitimate legal expenses. Prosecutors further alleging,
he used his firm to pay salaries and health insurance benefits to women with whom he had, quote,
intimate personal relationships, despite them performing little or no work for the firm, and despite the fact
that he shared his law practice with, um, his wife, not to mention,
other law partners. The indictment also claiming Goldstein failed to report or significantly understated
millions in gambling winnings, and for many years did not pay taxes he acknowledged he owed,
all while spending millions on personal expenses, including gambling debts, travel, vacation rentals,
and more. Authorities also accusing Goldstein of submitting false mortgage applications to two separate
lending companies, namely failing to disclose his serious gambling debts. Goldstein declining to
plea deals ahead of the six-week trial beginning mid-January in Greenbelt, Maryland. At trial,
the feds saying Goldstein took in about 50 million bucks in poker winnings in 2016 alone,
including 22 million one playing in Asia. Prosecutor Sean Beatty saying Goldstein's scheme
began unraveling when a fellow gambler who felt ripped off by Goldstein alerted the IRS.
After two days of deliberating, jurors finding Goldstein guilty on the majority of charges,
acquitting him on four counts tied to aiding and assisting in the preparation of false tax returns.
According to the DOJ, Goldstein now faces a maximum penalty of five years for tax evasion,
three years for each count of helping to prepare false tax returns,
one year for each count of willful failure to pay taxes,
and 30 years for each count of making false statements to mortgage lenders.
The sentencing date not yet set, Goldstein is likely to appeal,
wonder if it'll go up before Scotus.
The murder case surrounding late hockey star Johnny Goodrow and his brother Matthew
hitting a critical turn as the accused drunk driver claims he was not over the legal
limit when he struck and killed the brothers in 2024.
Goddrow, a beloved NHL forward and would-be Team USA Olympian, was 31 years old.
He and his brother, 29-year-old Matthew, riding bicycles single file along
the shoulder of a road in Oldman's Township, New Jersey, the night before their sister's wedding,
when Sean Higgins allegedly slammed into them with his vehicle. A driver ahead of Higgins
telling police Higgins had been driving aggressively, she and another vehicle, slowing and moving
left to safely pass the cyclists. Higgins then speeding up and veering right straight into the
brothers. Both men married fathers whose wives were pregnant at the time, dying.
at the scene. Higgins pulling over about a quarter mile from the scene. Here, body cam footage
from the arrest. Where were you before Taco Bell?
My house. Okay. How much have you had to drink today? I mean, I've been drinking beers,
but I haven't had one like two hours. Okay. So since the accident, like probably an hour or so.
Authorities initially reporting Higgins's blood alcohol level, or BAC, at 0.087. That's above the legal
limit of 0.08. But during a Tuesday hearing, Higgins' defense attorney arguing expert analysis
shows only Higgins's plasma was tested. Testing of his whole blood, the defense argues,
puts his BAC at 0.075 below the legal threshold. Higgins facing multiple charges, including
two counts each of reckless vehicular homicide, aggravated manslaughter, evidence tampering,
and leaving the scene of a fatal accident, carrying a potential sentence of.
up to 70 years if convicted. The defense seeking to dismiss the case entirely, arguing the BAC
discrepancy may have influenced the original grand jury indictment requesting that prosecutors present
this case again. Prosecutors say they're reviewing the new findings with their own experts,
the judge saying if prosecutors accept the defense's BAC claim, they can pursue a new indictment.
Higgins set to return to court April 14th when prosecutors are expected to reveal whether they agree with
the revised BAC analysis, and provide an update on possible plea negotiations.
Even if they need a new indictment, they will almost certainly seek one.
Running down two bikers and allegedly leaving the scene isn't legal, even if the driver was not
legally drunk.
Before his death, Godreau was on track to represent Team USA at the Winter Olympics.
Following the American's gold medal victory over Canada, the Olympic team honoring his
memory by carrying his number 13 jersey onto the ice and including his young children in the
championship celebration. Goddrow's widow Meredith speaking to ABC about the emotional moment.
I was so thankful for that. I was really, really proud of them as a team. And then I felt
really proud of John because everything they did and that they continue to do is out of respect and
love for him. So I was just very, very proud and I'm very thankful to them for including my kids
in it and just honoring my husband the way they do. It's the classiest thing. And that'll do it for
your AM update. I'm Megan Kelly. Join me back here for the MK Show live on SiriusXM's The Megan
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