The Megyn Kelly Show - New Details About Cause of Helicopter-Plane Crash, Trump and Zelensky Face-To-Face: AM Update 4/28

Episode Date: April 28, 2025

New reporting sheds light on what caused the helicopter-plane crash at Reagan National, and reveals who was piloting the military helicopter that night. Tens of thousands mourn Pope Francis at a stripped-down funeral in Rome. President Trump and President Zelensky meet in Rome as the administration warns this week will be critical for peace negotiations with Russia. A Milwaukee judge is arrested for allegedly helping a fugitive escape federal custody, drawing fierce reactions from across the political spectrum. At a somber White House Correspondents' Dinner, the media celebrates itself, without a comedian or president.Tax Network USA: Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit https://TNUSA.com/MEGYN to speak with a strategist for FREE todayDone with Debt: https://www.DoneWithDebt.com & tell them Megyn sent you!

Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. It's Monday, April 28th, 2025, and this is your AM Update. New reporting on January's crash between a Black Hawk helicopter and a commercial airliner reveals a chain of failures that led to disaster. does not end in the tomb, but in our Father's house, in a life of happiness that will know no end. Thousands of mourners gather in Rome to celebrate the funeral of the late Pope Francis. The last thing you want to do is give one of the two sides an excuse to walk away from this effort. Secretary Rubio says Ukraine and Russia

are closer to peace than ever before following a face-to-face meeting between President Trump and Ukrainian President Zelensky in Rome. At this year's White House Correspondents Dinner, no jokes, no president, no fun of any kind. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update. tax day may have passed but for millions of americans the real trouble is just the beginning if you miss the april 15th deadline or still owe back taxes the irs is ramping up enforcement and every day you wait might make things worse with over 5 000 new tax liens filed daily and tools like property seizures bank lev levies, and wage garnishments, you don't want to mess around, okay? The good news is there's still time for Tax Network

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crash at Ronald Reagan National Airport involving an Army Blackhawk helicopter and an American Airlines regional jet, resulting in the deaths of 67 people. The report, based on government documents, audio recordings of the air traffic controllers in the moments leading up to the crash, and expert interviews, outlines a series of missteps leading to the tragedy. We are learning for the first time that the helicopter's mission that night was conducting an annual evaluation of Captain Rebecca Loback, who joined the Army in 2019. Her assignment? Simulating an emergency evacuation of senior government officials from Washington after an attack. The Times report marks the first public confirmation that Captain Loback

was at the controls of the Black Hawk at the time of the crash. While Captain Lobach was the highest-ranking soldier on board, her instructor, Chief Warrant Officer Andrew Lloyd Eves, had logged more than twice as many flight hours. The report describes a series of factors leading up to the crash, including an air traffic control operator potentially stretched too thin, the use of night vision goggles potentially distorting the pilot's depth perception at critical moments, and the activation of a rarely used runway. The Times also reporting the Black Hawk was flying above its authorized altitude. Quote, as the helicopter approached the key bridge from which it would fly south along the river, Warrant Officer Eves stated that it was at 300 feet

and descending to 200 feet, necessary because the maximum height for this route, closer to the airport, had dropped to 200 feet. But even as it reached that juncture, Warrant Officer Eves evidently felt obliged to repeat his instruction. The Blackhawk was at 300 feet, he said, and needed to descend. Captain Lobach said she would, but two and a half minutes later, the Black Hawk still was above 200 feet, a dangerously high level. The report also indicating a breakdown in radio communication. As the controller attempted to guide them, cockpit recordings suggest key instructions to reroute were cut off. The Black Hawk crew again confirming they had the passenger jet in sight and for the second time requested visual separation. When they asked the first time, they had received approval,

meaning they on the helicopter would take responsibility for avoiding the jet. From the report, quote, the Black Hawk was 15 seconds away from crossing paths with the jet. Warrant Officer Eves then turned his attention to Captain Lobach. He told her he believed that air traffic control wanted them to turn left toward the East River Bank. Turning left would have opened up more space between the helicopter and Flight 5342, which was heading for Runway 33 at an altitude of roughly 300 feet. She did not turn left. The Black Hawk collided with American Airlines flight 5342 as it was moments away from landing at Reagan National Airport. In the wake of the crash, the FAA banned most

helicopter flights near this airport. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy in March saying the tragedy must serve as a lesson. We're going to make sure we've learned from this air disaster and we're going to pay it forward so there's not other families that have to go through the pain and anguish of losing a loved one like these families had to go through. The National Transportation Safety Board is expected to release its final report on the crash by early 2026. On Friday, the FBI arresting Milwaukee County Circuit Judge Hannah Dugan, charging her with obstruction and concealing an individual to prevent his discovery and arrest. According to the criminal complaint, six ICE task force agents arrived dressed in plain clothes at the courthouse on April 18th. They were armed with an active warrant for 30-year-old Eduardo Flores Ruiz, who was appearing that morning on three domestic abuse charges.

Upon learning the task force was in the building, Judge Dugan became visibly angry, initially ordering the agents to leave, then directing them to go and speak with the chief judge. One member of the task force, a DEA agent not initially recognized as part of the group, remained stationed outside of the courtroom while the others were directed to the chief judge's office. Another agent returned to the hallway shortly thereafter. While most of the agents were in discussion with court leadership, the complaint alleges Judge Dugan personally escorted Mr. Flores Ruiz and his attorney out of the courtroom through a secured jury door leading into a restricted area. Mr. Flores Ruiz and his attorney then made their way to a different elevator farther from the courtroom and exited the building. Two DEA agents, not occupied by the chief judge, spotted Mr. Flores Ruiz moving through the hallway and alerted the rest of the team. Agents then scrambled to locate Mr. Flores Ruiz outside the the hallway and alerted the rest of the team. Agents then scrambled to locate

Mr. Flores Ruiz outside the courthouse, and when law enforcement identified themselves, he ran. Agents apprehending Mr. Flores Ruiz after a short chase. Judge Dugan's arrest one week later, sending shockwaves through the media, though I don't know why, Rachel Maddow, Lester Holt, and Chris Hayes sounding the alarm. But if this feels like a insane and reckless escalation from the Trump administration arresting a judge, I will tell you, you are not alone. Her arrest also marking a new flashpoint in the administration's verbal attacks on judges who have ruled against parts of the Trump immigration agenda. Much of what this is about, which became almost immediately clear, is making an example out of her for other judges around the country.

CNN legal analyst Ellie Honig taking a more measured approach. You know, the legal one. Looking at the complaint, let's strip the politics out of it. This is a crime. If they can prove what happened here, it is a crime. This judge, let's strip the Trump of it all out. Let's strip the immigration of it all out. Let's say law enforcement shows up at a building with an arrest warrant. They're looking for person A. Person B then says, hey, there's a secret escape door out back. I'm gonna show you the way and then ushers

that person out the back door. That is textbook obstruction. Attorney General Pam Bondi on Friday sending a warning, the Trump administration will not tolerate anyone getting in the way of lawful deportation efforts. They're deranged is all I can think of. I cannot believe, I think some of these judges think they are beyond and above the law and they are not. And we're sending a very strong message today. If you are harboring a fugitive, we don a very strong message today. If you are harboring a fugitive, we don't care who you are. If you are helping hide one, we will come after you and we will prosecute you. We will find you. On Saturday, more than 250,000 mourners flocking to

the Vatican, paying respects to the late Pope Francis. The pontiff passing away one week ago at 88 from stroke and heart failure. Foreign delegations from 164 countries attending the funeral held in St. Peter's Square, including President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump, French President Emmanuel Macron, Britain's Prince William, and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. The pontiff lying in state for three days in a simple wooden coffin, resting at floor level, emphasizing Pope Francis's view of himself as a humble shepherd. Public viewing of the Pope's body ending on Friday evening with church officials, led by the acting head of the church, Cardinal Camerlengo Kevin Farrell, performing the traditional sealing of the coffin,

a ritual formally closing the period of mourning and preparing the body for burial. The funeral mass celebrated by Cardinal Giovanni Battista Ray, the Dean of the College of Cardinals, reflecting Pope Francis's lifelong commitment to humility, marked by simple rituals, solemn prayers, and a stripped-down ceremony by Vatican standards. We are gathered with sad hearts in prayer around his mortal remains. Yet we are sustained by the certainty of faith which assures us that human existence does not end in the tomb, but in our Father's house, in a life of happiness that will know no end. The funeral procession departing St. Peter's Square, winding through

the streets of Rome, tens of thousands of mourners lining the route, many cheering and waving at the sight of the Popemobile carrying the late pontiff, others overcome with tears, a mix of celebration and deep sorrow. The nearly four-mile procession ending at the Basilica of St. Mary Major, one of Pope Francis' most beloved places of prayer. Breaking with tradition, Pope Francis choosing to be laid to rest there, rather than beneath St. Peter's Basilica, like most of his predecessors. Now the Vatican turning its focus to the conclave that will elect the next pope. The highly secretive deliberations among cardinals, the senior leadership of the Catholic Church, set to begin within 15 to 20 days of the pope's death, though the timeline could move faster if all eligible cardinals

arrive in Rome and agree to proceed. The only glimpse into the deliberations comes through smoke signals issued twice a day from the Sistine Chapel. Black smoke signaling, no decision. White smoke signaling, we have a new pope. Cardinals meeting this morning in Rome to set the official start date for the conclave. Coming up, President Trump and Ukrainian President Zelensky meet face-to-face at Pope Francis' funeral as the administration enters a critical week for peace talks with Russia.

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President Trump and Ukrainian President Zelensky on Saturday meeting face-to-face in St. Peter's Basilica ahead of Pope Francis' funeral. The two presidents seated practically knee-to-knee in chairs set out by church officials specifically for their private conversation. Earlier in the day, President Trump posting on Truth Social, quote, the two sides should now meet at very high levels to finish it off. Most of the major points are agreed to. Stop the bloodshed now. We will be wherever is necessary to help facilitate the end to this cruel and senseless war. The backdrop to Saturday's meeting last week, Ukraine rejecting a U.S.-backed peace proposal, criticizing it as too biased toward Russia. In response,

Russian President Vladimir Putin launching a wave of missile strikes against Ukrainian civilian targets. Shortly after the conversation with President Zelensky, President Trump again posting to Truth Social, writing, quote, There was no reason for Putin to be shooting missiles into civilian areas, cities, and towns over the last few days. It makes me think that maybe he doesn't want to stop the war. He's just tapping me along and has to be dealt with differently through banking or secondary sanctions. Too many people are dying.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Sunday telling NBC the U.S.-led peace effort between Ukraine and Russia has made real progress, but warning that the coming week will be critical. This is not an issue of trust. It's an issue of building in these sorts of things, verification, security guarantees, things that have been discussed in the past. All these things are being talked about here. All of these things. The last thing you want to do is give some side, one of the two sides, an excuse to walk away from this effort. We're just trying to achieve peace. At the end of the day, let me remind everybody, what we are trying to do is end a war that has cost a lot of money to us,

to our allies, cost a lot of lives, destroyed a lot of lives, forced people by the millions to leave their country, millions of Ukrainians that no longer live in the country and have not been able to come back. We just want all this to stop. Instead of rooting against President Trump, everyone should be hopeful that President Trump can bring this war to an end because it truly, at this point, is not good for anybody. The secretary adding that while both sides are closer to a deal than at any time in the past three years, the final steps remain the hardest. Mr. Rubio making clear the U.S. cannot continue pouring time and resources into the negotiations indefinitely and will reassess its involvement if real progress is not made in the days ahead. On Saturday in Washington, D.C., the White House Correspondents Association holding its annual fundraising dinner, striking a noticeably more somber tone this year.

Per tradition, the evening usually features remarks from the president and a comedian roasting both the administration and the press. But this year, comedian Amber Ruffin's set was canceled after backlash over comments she made referring to members of the Trump administration as murderers. President Trump and White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt both declining their invitations, just as President Trump did in his first term. Also notably absent, the usual roster of A-list celebrities, a sharp contrast from years past when personalities like Bradley Cooper and Scarlett Johansson filled the room. President of the association, Eugene Daniels, choosing to deliver the keynote speech

instead. We journalists are a lot of things. We are competitive and pushy. We are impatient. And sometimes we think we know everything. But we're also human. We miss our families and significant life moments in service to this job. We care deeply about accuracy and take seriously the heavy responsibility of being stewards of the public's trust. What we are not is the opposition. What we are not is the enemy of the people. And what we are not is the enemy of the people, and what we are not is the enemy of the state. Daniels recently left Politico to co-host a weekend show on left-wing cable news network MSNBC, a network devoted to criticizing and demonizing President Trump.

Media summarizing the event about themselves as follows. The Washington Post rating, quote, without comedy or the president, correspondence dinner presses on. From the New York Times, quote, Washington's besieged journalists raise a cocktail glass darkly. ABC News writing, quote, there was no president, there was no comedian. What remained at the White House Correspondents Association's annual dinner on Saturday night were the journalists and the First Amendment. NBC anchor Kristen Welker presenting an award for overall excellence in White House coverage to reporter Alex Thompson of Axios. In accepting the award, Mr. Thompson acknowledging the media's failures and delivering a blunt message about the responsibility journalists

owe the public. President Biden's decline and its cover-up by the people around him is a reminder that every White House, regardless of party, is capable of deception. But being truth-tellers also means telling the truth about ourselves. We, myself included, missed a lot of this story. And some people trust us less because of it. We bear some responsibility for faith in the media being at such lows. I say this because acknowledging errors builds trust and being defensive about them further erodes it. We should have done better. Yeah, except we, Alex, didn't really miss the Biden story at

all. The entire corporate media intentionally ignored or actively buried or downplayed it. So it's not really a matter of acknowledging errors. How about we start with, quote, what's true there? And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megyn Kelly. Join me back here for The Megyn Kelly Show live on Sirius XM Triumph Channel 111 at EUNICE on youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly and on all podcast platforms.