The Megyn Kelly Show - NPR's Embarrassing Excuse, Another Socialist Victory, and Smug Serena Williams, with Matt Taibbi and Rob Finnerty | Ep. 1351

Episode Date: July 1, 2026

Megyn Kelly is joined by Matt Taibbi, editor of "Racket News" on Substack, to discuss the rise of socialists within the Democratic party, 29-year-old Colorado candidate Melat Kiros’ major victory over the long-time Democrat incumbent, the wild positions she has that are growing in the Democratic party, NPR’s embarrassing false report that Justice Samuel Alito was retiring, Nina Totenberg’s widely-criticized explanation for the mistake, the shocking backstory to the fake story and Totenberg's history of mistakes, Sheridan Gorman's mom's powerful testimony before the House yesterday, calling out Democrats for not protecting Americans and trying to focus on other issues, and more. Then Rob Finnerty, host of "Finnerty" on NEWSMAX, to discuss corporate media refusing to tell the truth about boys in girls' sports, the reality of the issue ignored by the left, a new law in Minneapolis allowing bathhouses again, Jussie Smollett's bizarre comeback appearance at a Pride event, the lawlessness seen at Pride events throughout June, Naomi Osaka making her Wimbledon appearance all about herself, Serena Williams' failed comeback and poor sportsmanship, and more.   Taibbi- https://www.racket.news/ Finnerty- https://www.newsmaxtv.com/Shows/finnerty   Supersure Insurance: Upgrade your business insurance to a year-round SuperAgency at https://Supersure.com/Megyn The Wellness Company: Don’t let a sudden illness derail your summer—secure your peace of mind and save $45 on a Medical Emergency Kit today by visiting https://UrgentCareKit.com/MK and using promo code MK. Herald Group: Learn more at https://GuardYourCard.com Birch Gold: Text MK to 989898 and get a free America 250 silver round with qualifying purchase     Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKelly Twitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShow Instagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShow Facebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at:https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East. Hey, everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to the Megan Kelly show. NPR is trying to explain how they got their story about Justice Samuel Alito retiring so wrong. And it is raising more questions than answers. Wait until you hear their explanation. This whole thing feels like a punk. Like, am I dreaming?

Did this really happen? Plus, we've got a lot of thoughts on Serena Williams and her return to Wimbledon. She thinks she's the Queen Bee. And I'm sorry to break it to you, Serena. Those days have come and gone. There are new stars on the court. And while you'll always have an important place in tennis, that day has come and gone. And you cannot go out there and act like you are still queen of the court because you're not.

That's later. First, however, we've been telling you about the far left socialist. and let's face it, communist takeover of the Democratic Party, highlighted by three victories of progressive candidates in New York City, primaries for House seats. But again, the primaries in New York City, that's basically the final because Republicans can't win there. But they've been taking down members of the Democratic establishment,

and now we know it is not just a big city East Coast thing, because last night in Colorado, socialist Malat Kiros, defeated 15-term incumbent Diana DeGette, in the Democratic primary for a House seat that represents the Denver area. Keros ran on abolishing ICE, on Medicare for All, on her fervent opposition to U.S. support for Israel, and on a trans bill of rights, which she posted on her campaign website. I mean, that's kind of par for the course for these Democratic socialists. As we discussed when the 3-1 in New York City, the official DSA platform,

includes defunding the Pentagon, de-incarceration, so I think like all the prisons would be open, not just defunding police, but getting rid of police, and also getting rid of the presidency and the U.S. Senate. So I'm not exactly sure how they'll govern if they get their way. Maybe just the House of Representatives is left over, because we're not going to have a Pentagon and we're not going to have a Senate. We're not going to have a chief executive. Or maybe it was, no, sorry, let me correct myself. It was judges. We're going to get rid of judges. Maybe the Senate can stay. Tough to remember which body of the Constitution they would like to strike. But good luck with that. It's going to be kind of tough to push through. We on the right, we're talking about possibly a

constitutional amendment to change the whole birthright citizenship. And we're reminded that that takes 38 states. I'm not sure we're going to have 38 states to abolish a, um, whole branches of the government, but this is the crazy that's getting elected now, coast to coast. Based on this woman's victory speech last night, she does not appear to be moderating on her views anytime soon. Watch. And to reject corporate to both. What is that obnoxious horn that's blowing there? She's 29 years old.

She reportedly got booted out of her law firm, Sydney and Austin, for writing a, uh, uh, uh, an opinion piece or signing a letter early on in support of the Palestinian side in the whole conflict shortly after 10-7 and refused to stand down on that. So she's a hero to people who are Israel critical. But her platform goes so far beyond that. I love the Medicare for all. Like, oh, it sounds so lovely. So we're going to have socialized medicine is what she wants. How's that worked out elsewhere? And by the way, who's going to pay for that? Because our country's facing like bankruptcy right now on our debt, and we don't have that. So I'm just wondering where she's going to get the money for that, because, you know, the billionaires, even if we took

all their money, we couldn't afford it. Joining me now to react to this and much more is Matt Taibi, editor of Rackett News on Substack. When you signed your insurance policy for some brokers, that's the finish line. Handshake, commission, done. Then you may not hear from them again until it's time for renewal, in which case they're your best friend once again. your business runs all year, however, and so do the gaps and the risk. And that's why I want to tell you about Super Sure. If your company has more than 25 employees, whether you are the owner, the CFO, or an HR manager, it can be too complex to just buy a policy online. SuperSure is the super agency built for you, licensed in every state for your business insurance and employee benefits with year-round support for you and your team. At SuperSure.com, you can access tools like find print facts, which translates your current policy into plain English. So you see what's covered and what's not. Plus a business value calculator so you can estimate what your business is worth and know what actually needs protecting. Go to super sure.com slash Megan. One superagency,

one powerful platform, all your policies in one place. Go to super sure.com slash Megan, paid for by SuperSure insurance agency LLC, a licensed insurance agency. Matt, a great day to have you. Thanks so much for coming on. Great to see you. Great to see you, Megan. How are you? So it's all going to be free. Medicare for all. And we're also going to get rid of ICE. So no more policing of illegals. It's basically open borders. They're all for that. They don't like cops. They do like illegals. They want somehow to pay for Medicare for everybody in the country, socialized medicine. And they're very, very opposed to Israel. And I would submit to you that last. point is going, it's the determining factor. It's not the only factor, but if you had to rank the things that are driving these elections, I would put it number one, because the Democrat Party is just so solidly against Israel right now. But what do you make of it? Well, I think you're right about the last point. American politics in recent years has been a series of

litmus tests. And the most recent one on the Democratic side is clearly a the Israel issue if you haven't taken a stance on it, if you're a supporter of Israel, you're really not electable anymore in the Democratic Party. And this is a major factor in the DSA's success at the primary level. And it spells trouble for the leadership of the party. I mean, we saw what happened in New York after the victories of the three Momdanen back candidates, There were when Hakeem Jeffries flashed on a television screen, everybody was chanting, you are next, you are next. So they're very intent on ousting the traditionalist wing of the Democratic Party.

Yeah. So how does that play out if they continue doing that, right? And they, I mean, then the battle eventually becomes between them and Republicans, at least in some general election, contests. I mean, so far this is happening only in like very, very deep blue cities and states for, you know, congressional representation in which Republicans are a joke. But I mean, at some point, they're going to face them, I guess, in a general election contest if this keeps happening. And either way, even if they get elected right into Congress as the new Democrats, they're going to have to fight the Republicans once they go to Capitol Hill. And it seems to me that right now,

Republicans are relishing the thought of that, but it could be one of those careful what you wish for situations, Matt, given the way the country's going right now? Yeah, so this is what makes it fascinating. I mean, not embarrassed to admit that not long ago, I was fairly supportive of Bernie Sanders. I knew Bernie very well early in my career as a reporter. He had me tag along with him in Congress and showed me how everything in the house worked when he, this was way back when he was still in the House. When he ran for president, the prospect of him becoming the nominee was a really interesting thought experiment for the Democrats in 2016, because it's quite possible that he would have done better than Hillary Clinton at the time. The electorate was deeply anti-establishment.

Hillary was running as a political insider, which was very unpopular. And the things that Sanders was promoting, there was a lot of popularity to a lot. of the things that he was calling for including like abolishing student debt um the you know medicare for all uh is actually popular uh with a lot of democrats the problem with this new crew of dsa candidates and i know they're technically under the same tent as bernie sanders but there are a very different group of people and i know this uh among other things you know i i studied at a soviet college. I'm old enough to have gone to the university in the Soviet Union. I'm very familiar with this personality type. I took scientific communism in college. And so I know the difference between

the real thing and what Bernie was in 2016, which, you know, he was running as a traditional sort of FDR Democrat. He grew up in a poor neighborhood with great reverence for the Democratic Party. He clearly loves his home state of Vermont. That is not the vibe with this crew that uses terms like seize the means of production very freely. And I just don't think, well, we'll see what happens when they get exposed to the general electorate? I think the people are, there's going to be a rebuke there, but it will be interesting to see how the party reacts to that.

I mean, so far, the party's reacting like it's developed a cancer and it wants to cut the tumor out very badly of the core. Oregon. The mainstream Democrats seem horrified by the ascendancy of some of these radical leftists, but they're kind of powerless to stop it because they're running normie Democrats against them, and they're getting crushed in these deep blue districts. Like the Democrat Party seems to want something much more radical. And it tends to be in New York City, at least so far, and now in this Denver election, the white people. It's the rich white people who are voting for them. Like in New York, we saw the blacks and the Hispanics say, no, we don't want that.

We kind of like cops, actually. They're in our neighborhoods protecting us. We like living. We like our kids living. It's the elite, white, rich people over and over who are drawn to this, Matt. Why? Because they don't know, Megan. I mean, I wrote a book about Eric Garner, the murder of Eric police murder. And as a result of that, in doing the research, I had to spend roughly two years on the street talking to people in that very spot. Now, one of the things that happened after Eric Garner was killed is that the Staten Island and that precinct elected to permanently station a squad car right on that spot right next to the park. And the neighborhood, I think, was roughly a 60-40 split in favor of the police being there because there were fewer fights,

there were fewer disturbances, there were fewer robberies of the stores in the neighborhood. And that's generally what you'll hear in poor neighborhoods. If you talk to people, there are people who are very anti-police in the projects, but there are also people who are very frightened and see crime as a bigger problem. It's only people who live, who go to elite universities and live in very rich neighborhoods and don't spend time in those places who think that police abolition is this idea that's going to be universally embraced by the poor or prison abolition, for that matter. They just have no real life experience, and that is very typical of this type of person. It's, I mean, it's, it sounds like a joke that we, a modern day America would be electing candidates who say, I want to get rid of all the cops, I want to open all the prisons, I want the, all the illegals to be able to stay. And I want the public dime to pay for all health care, for all these people, including the illegals, and also all trans so-called care. You know, kids. The taxpayer, like, that's where we stop with the similarities on, for example, the Vladimir Putin approach to socialism.

The conservatism that goes hand in hand with what he's offering over there is completely rejected in favor of true leftist radicalism. I'll show you just one, I mean, some of the things we mentioned, and Putin would take a firm hand on policing and he's not for illegals, populace. the streets of Russia or criminals. But look at this picture of this woman who won last night, this Malakiros, and the person she was out there campaigning with. This is like, for the listening audience, it looks like a transvestite. It looks like a drag queen kind of person, a man in a bikini with a huge orange mustache and a huge orange head of hair, almost lionesque, in its presentation.

And she's in his armpit with a big, hug, there's actually video of the two of them together. It's a soundbite as she gets welcomed to the Pride stage this, well, I guess now last month since it's July 1st, 5B, watch. And that is why today I am personally endorsing for Congress, Maylock Keyrose everybody. Dig Diddy. I'm not sure that's the word for that scene, Matt. Yeah, I mean, again, these are sort of niche political ideas. I understand people talking about it, maybe in a common room of a dorm at Columbia or Cornell or someplace like that. But, you know, the ordinary person is going to have a tough time swallowing, so to speak, publicly funded transitions in places like prisons or even, you know,

to bring up a more serious issue, putting housing. biological males in women's prisons, which is something the ACLU as well as the DSA favors. We had that decision by the Supreme Court yesterday striking down or at least allowing states to bar the participation of biological men and women's sports. But there was a while there, and these DSA pseudo-intellectuals are all for this, where it was basically verboten for people in the media to use the term biological sex or biological male or to say that there were two sexes. You know, the biologist Colin Wright was essentially kicked out of academics for saying that there are two,

that sex is binary. And this is not popular either, right? I mean, it's one thing to advocate for rights for people. and to advocate against, say, housing discrimination or, you know, health insurance discrimination, any of those things. But it's very different to demand a complete rejection of, say, science and, you know, physical or biological reality. That's where they are. Did you see we played it yesterday, but Craig Melvin on The Today Show gave like a trigger warning

before he read language from the Supreme Court decision referring to biological boys and biological girls. Like, you know, I know this is going to upset you, but it comes from the U.S. Supreme Court. Here's more. This is CNN's chief legal analyst, Laura Coates. Listen to how she referred to the decision and the issues being discussed in it and sought 27. This is a monumental decision, not unexpected, however, given how the oral arguments went. Here was the crux of the issue. It was whether or not somebody who was assigned the male gender at birth would be allowed to play in a traditionally so-called girls sports in a public, a high school, or, of course, in the college setting. So-called.

Yeah, and assigned male at birth is just factually incorrect. I understand that's movement speak. But media organizations, and, you know, I was in traditional media during the period when we first started to be policed about the language. that we can use. I remember the first time that, you know, it came up in a fact-checking meeting that we had to use the term undocumented instead of illegal. And once activists figured out that they could have that kind of leverage over media organizations, they started doing it increasingly often. And what ended up happening was that a lot of media people just unthinkingly embrace. terms without considering what they really mean. Gender affirming care carries a very, very specific

meaning, and it essentially means that you can't embrace the idea that some dysphoric young people, like, say, an 11-year-old boy or a girl who feels troubled about their gender identity, that maybe that person might end up being happy about being a boy or a girl. Gender affirming, essentially, care essentially means that you're going to give them the kind of care that's going to make them transition. And so using that terminology is very, it's political in itself, in addition to being factually questionable. And it's amazing to watch networks apologizing.

for using the right words. Yeah. I mean, it's just such a farce assigned male at birth. Assigned mail by God. That's more accurate. You'd be better off going there. Let's spend a minute on what happened yesterday at the High Court. First of all, the Nina Totenberg, massive face plant is seriously newsworthy.

I can't believe what her explanation was. This time yesterday, we were talking about the decision. and we did point out that Nina Totenberg, who's the Supreme Court reporter a long time for NPR, blew it, not the reporting on the two decisions, but right after those decisions, she reported that Justice Alito was retiring. And she was the only one who had it. Get, getting this just so people know, I've covered the high court for three years for Fox News. Get being the first with a retirement announcement is huge in Supreme Court reporting circles. It's like the mother-lawful. that everybody's fighting for. Other than the weird Dobbs leak, you don't get advanced copies of decisions. That's not an area in which one reporter can beat another covering the high court. This is the whole ball game. You find out a justice is stepping down and you are the first to report it.

It's huge. It's the mother load. So she's semi-retired. I guess she is retired, which is what I said yesterday, but she came back. for yesterday's big day at the Supreme Court, and she was there, and she is the one who reported that Justice Alito was retiring. It went up on NPR's website. My team forwarded it to me immediately. I'm like, holy shit. I had heard, and I've reported this on the show before, that he is likely to step down, and I've heard that from people who know. But that's one thing. That is totally different

from he's retiring it's happening there's been an announcement that is a very very different kettle of fish so she she goes with it we see it on on our team i reached out to my own sources who say it's not true and by the time i went back to my team saying my sources saying it's not true NPR had taken it down and when we went off the air yesterday i was saying to my team if that's mpr's error like if they took a nina totenberg canned report on alito's legacy and somebody there had it wrong that he was retiring, then they should publicly come out and say so so that she's not,

she doesn't have egg on our face because she wouldn't deserve that. I'd be mad as the reporter if that happened to me. Wrong. Totally wrong. That's not what happened at all. It was 100% Nina Totenberg's fault. And the explanation

about how this went down, Matt, is so crazy. What happened? Okay. Okay, you've got to hear it. Is this on tape, you guys? Because she was going to go on. Oh, it is. All right, SOT 26. Let's listen to her. Explain it on NPR's All Things Considered yesterday. It's entirely on me. It's not anybody else's fault. And I've written to Justice Alito to apologize, and I thought I would read you most of this letter because it tells you everything.

Okay. Dear Justice Alito, there are no words to adequately apologize for today's error in reporting your retirement. It was entirely my fault. I rushed out of the courtroom after the opinion announcements. And when I, I rushed out of the courtroom, I rushed out of the courtroom. I realized that the usual rush of folks after a few minutes had not happened, I asked somebody what was going on inside, to which the answer was retirement announcements. I didn't hear the S on announcements and assumed something no reporter should ever do that you were retiring. It was the worst professional mistake of my more than 50 years in journalism. I could go on, but I don't know what else to say except that I am so, so sorry, and I am eternally.

You know, this was a rookie mistake. Have you heard back from the justice? No, but I didn't expect to hear back from it. It's my mistake. It's unbelievable. That is truly incredible. And the fact that they put that on the air and didn't see that that's even more embarrassing than the mistake is incredible. How is that helping? No, exactly. I mean,

as you pointed out, this is the mother of all stories for somebody on that beat. And the last thing you want to do is have to go up on all things considered and say, boy, I really, you know, F that one up. You know, that's a career. kind of killing mistake. So it has to be a situation where somebody concretely tells you that it's happening. And you get to ask, wait, just to be sure, you're saying that Alito was retiring, right? Like, you want to double check at least. You want to try to check it with the other.

You know, you're playing with the dynamite stick. It's lit. The fuse is going to. You know you're playing with it. You like, you make quadruple sure before. you hit publish that you've got it you got it you heard it alito announced he's retiring is that correct any she says it's a rookie mistake that's an insult to rookies rookies no you check it out check it out the the story mad is that as she was leaving the supreme court she heard something

about retirement announcements she hurts no i rushed out of the courtroom after the opinion announced announcements. And she misheard, she says, an announcement about a retirement. And then she what? She just assumed that it was Alito. She doesn't even argue that she heard an announcement that said Alito was retiring. Nor did she see who was making the announcement, nor does she posit that she was in their hearing with her own ears, that there was a, this is so.

bad she's either got dementia or she's making it up. Or she needs to be fired for malfeasance. Like something smells very wrong with the whole story. Yeah, that story is either not true. Like it's, it's, you know, somebody else made the mistake and she's falling on a sore or something like that. Or it's just beyond embarrassing. I mean, it really speaks to what's happened in journalism in the last.

you know, 10, 15, 20 years, you know, go back and watch all the president's men. They were afraid to put out a story that had four sources behind it, and they still got it wrong. In the big disaster scene in that movie, you would never, ever go to print with one unnamed source where the source doesn't even tell you what you're asserting. You can't make an assumption about something you overheard on NPR. I mean, are you kidding me? That is a truly unbelievable media story, Megan. It's incredible.

I rush out of the courtroom after the opinion announced, after they were announcing announcements. My transcript of this is weird. Okay. I asked somebody what was going on inside, to which the answer was retirement announcements. I asked somebody what was going on inside to which the answer was retirement announcements. I didn't hear the S on announcements. So she heard what's going on inside, retirement announcement and assumed something no reporter should ever do that you were retiring.

So she, her explanation is that some rando told her she didn't even hear it that there were quote, retirement, a retirement announcement happening inside. And by her own admission, no one's. said to her Alito. So I mean, even if you were in the position that I've been in for the past six months where I do have very good reason to believe that Alito is going to be the next to go, um, you don't know that. Right. I wouldn't, if I heard there's a retirement announcement announcement from the bench, I'd say, which one? So do my or is not in good health? Thomas is the oldest. I don't know who it is. Just because I've been told Alito is thinking about going and is probably

the next to go doesn't mean it happened today. And they just announced it. And from that, she went to the NPR editors and they, they hit print on one of the golden cows of reporting. They were like, we got it. Queen Nina. Yeah, I mean, there are so many things about that that are remarkable. First of all, how does somebody who, you worked in that beat for three years, you said? Yes. You have sources, I'm sure, that could help you confirm or deny. a story like that, right? How does this person not have somebody who would pick up the phone

if she called to help her confirm or deny that story? How did the editors not instantly reject that story when they... They weighed in. The editors said they trust Nina implicitly. She's so holier than now over there, Matt, that they just trust Nina now. And they said because she said it was an announcement as opposed to like I have an inside scoop.

I've got a source telling me. They didn't use their like emergency backup system of like triple checking all stories before they go on the air because she told them there was an announcement from the bench, like from the court, which is so crazy. I'm telling you, either Nina Totenberg has dementia or some sort of brain disease that's causing her to behave in a very bizarre way, or this is a lie, or she's so just generally incompetent, she must be fired. This is absolutely a fireable offense, even for a Nina Totenberg who's been there for 50 years. I'm sorry, but this is totally humiliating for NPR. I was saying yesterday it's akin to

reporting the Pope has died when he hasn't died. You know, like, it's that level error. And NPR has no satisfactory explanation. Oh, and by the way, Matt, the other piece of this is, she reported, the NPR reported his stepping down with its typical bias, right? It's, the headline was, hold on, I think I have it here. Here it is. The headline is Justice Samuel Alito, who wrote the opinion overturning Roe v. Wade retires. What did Nina Totenberg write when Ruth Bader Ginsburg died. Justice RBG, champion of gender equality dies at 87.

Notice any difference in the tone there? So, I mean, I don't think it was her bias that led her to report that Alito was retiring when he wasn't, but she's got a history of not calling it straight. And by the way, she's made errors, too. She's the one who reported

that Justice Gorsuch had refused to put on a mask when the Chief Justice asked him to around the COVID time. And that Sony Sotomayor was so offended. She didn't participate in oral arguments in person, that she did it remotely. And she was wrong. She was 100% wrong. She was so wrong that both justices, Gorsuch and Sotomayor, issued a rare joint refutation of Nina's reporting. She's had other things that she's just gotten egregiously wrong. This woman's been getting a pass for far too long. She's passed her, she's passed her journalism prime as these mistakes are proving. I mean, it's really incredible.

And I mean, I think you could speak to this too. It wasn't that long ago where the guiding principle of pretty much everybody who had any kind of reporting beat in media was to avoid the big face plant. When you did a story, your main motivation was to not screw it up. That was the first, second and third things that you worried about. was, you know, what will happen if I get this wrong? This could end my career. This could, you know, lead to a lawsuit. It could all kinds of problems could happen.

Now it's become incredibly common for newspapers to make mistakes and either not own up to it at all, not issue a correction, not issue an explanation. Or simply give an explanation, make a correction, and have there be no consequences for for it whatsoever people make make mistakes and nothing happens now which is um there's sort of an extraordinary thing think of all the people in the wmd episode who got things wrong and were promoted as a result of it and this is this is how that happens you i just can't stress enough how you understand that is plutonium your handle if you get news like that as a Supreme Court reporter like, holy shit. There's only nine of them. The retirements are

spaced out by years. It's a huge deal when there's a vacancy on the high court. If you get a scoop like that, it has to be handled so carefully, so professionally, so responsibly. And you would never go to air with it unless you had it cold. I mean, I would not go to air with that unless I heard it directly from the justice or the justice's spouse. That's it. That is the only, those are the only two people who could make me do it. Right. Not even another justice could convince me to do it. And so like for her to, that's why people, like for her to say, I misheard from the bench that there was a retirement announcement, period, not even about a justice. Never mind this justice. Right. And she, it's just insane. I can't get past it. So enter. I'm sorry. The, the, the,

is fascinating. Like, that's a huge story. It would take more than. you know, a little bit for to get that on air in a normal situation. You'd have to double, triple check it. The editors would demand certain steps be taken. But it sounds like, you know, they managed to, she went from hearing that or allegedly hearing that to going on air with it relatively quickly. Yes. Her explanation yesterday was that she then spoke with her intern.

who was at the court with her, an NPR executive editor, Krishnadev Kalimer, and told them what she had heard. Calimer surfaced the story that NPR had previously prepared for the day Alito did announce his retirement and publish it. It's not unusual to have one in the can for all nine justices like, God forbid, they die or they retire. So the background had already been written. That's normal. But nobody questioned her. And the producer here, the Calimer, I guess it was the editor. talked about he said she's the preeminent supreme court reporter in the courtroom so i'm assuming that's what she heard she's in the room uh so he it was complete deference to her blind deference

which is very dangerous as they just learned the hard way let me tell you what paul far he is saying he wrote for a long time for the washington post and was like their chief media uh reporter slash critic. And I, when I saw this explanation yesterday, my jaw dropped. And I tweeted out or posted on X, OMG. NPR posted an article by Nina Totenberg

reporting that Alito's retiring and then within minutes retracted escutas denied total shit show. That was actually before I'd seen the explanation. He responds, so NPR made a mistake, recognized its mistake, and corrected it within minutes.

What would you have them do other than not making a mistake? stake. That is a literally unbelievable thing for, you know, for an experienced media reporter, which Paul Farhey is. I mean, I was briefly away from Rolling Stone when they made the error that nearly destroyed the entire organization, you know, the UVA rape story, You know, some of my favorite people were caught up in that disaster. People, you know, I had known for years. And it was universally accepted in the media business that it was, you know, it was a mistake to just simply trust the reporter, you know, absent some kind of verification.

And, you know, it was considered a kind of a warning tip. or a cautionary tale for editors that this is what can happen if you place too much stock in what your reporters tell you. You've got to get some kind of confirmation that satisfies you. So here you have a complete systemic breakdown, and the Washington Post media reporter isn't interested in that, and what the process is at NPR? That's incredible. It also speaks to what must go on. the Washington Post, too.

Yeah. And, you know, it's quick to defend it. Like, oh, what would you have them do? Like, it's just another, like, it's a rounding error they made on some math claim. Now, this is, this is a massive journalistic fail. Don't pretend like you don't know that. You fully know that, Paul Farhey. And here's Peter Baker, the New York Times White House reporter. No one's more mortified by a mistake than a journalist committed to factual reporting. The best own up to it, correct it, and apologize for it. as Nina Totenberg has done. It's worth remembering a long career dedicated to getting it right. Okay, look, this is not her first screw up. There have been others by Nina Totenberg, always overlooked

by her fans because she's an open liberal reporting with a liberal bent, with all the right nasty takes on the conservative justices and the beneficial ones for the libs. So Peter Baker rushes to her defense. But I guarantee you, if I went back and worked at Fox News next year covering the high court and made such a mistake about a leftist jurist retiring when it wasn't true, Peter Baker would not be out there saying, oh, she did the honorable thing. That's not. And that kind of a statement. Would make a textbook out of you make, and if you did that. Totally. And also, like, they're treating her, quote, mistake as if it's like she got burned by a source. It happened.

Like, this was such an epic failure. She didn't have it. No one told her it. She made it up. We're ignoring the fact that at no point did Nina Totenberg here. Justice Alito is retiring. She made it up and put it out on NPR. It went out to all their radio stations.

It stood for much longer in the ether than it did on their pages because they retracted it on their website. But it had already been broadcast because they were doing live coverage of the, Supreme Court. So it got blasted out across the country. I'm sure there are people today who are still confused and think Justice Alito is retiring. And it's very telling, Matt, that at least when she was asked yesterday, whether he

had responded to her a little apology, the answer was no. He did not let her off the hook. He's probably pissed off. There are some who are even speculating. Maybe this whole thing was a trap. Like maybe he had somebody tell her or tell a leaker to tell her. Like maybe some effort to find

the Supreme Court leaker. I don't know what the game would be, but I'm sure he's not happy. Yeah, and he's he would be right to be upset if that's what the process is. I mean, the, you mentioned being burned by sources, you know, that does happen. And that was the first thing I thought of when, when she was giving that excuses, that what actually happened was that somebody she, she knows and who's been a good source for her, you know, blew her up and she's covering for that person by giving the story that's so unbelievable and embarrassing to her personally that there won't be anybody asking about, you know, a source who got something wrong.

But I just don't think that's possible. Like if you were going to come up with another story about how it was your fault, you would come up with something different than this, wouldn't you? I mean, this is just not an adequate explanation. I like to think so. Yeah. That's incredible. No, I don't, there's got to be more.

There's got to be another shoe to drop here because it's, it's, I understand she's their gal for 50 years. I understand she thinks she's the queen B of the high court. I don't think that, but she thinks that. Even for that level reporter, this is the end. This should be the end of Nina. Totenberg's career. It should. I'm sorry she has to go out on this note, but she does. The only reason, you know, it won't happen is because she's a leftist at a leftist news organization and all these other leftists like Paul Farhey and Peter Baker are very quick to run cover

for her. You know, so they, she's not getting any of the flack that you would get or that I would get or that anybody at Fox News would get if they had done such a thing. It's just just such an egregious, egregious story. Yeah. Okay, I want to keep going. So, Back to Milat Kieros, okay, and these Democrat socialists, because I do want to point something out. This woman is railing about, among other things, ice. She hates ice. All these DSA types want to get rid of ice. And let me give you a little, a little sampling of that because she sat down with Hassan Piker and gave an interview not long ago, Sop 4.

Abolishing ICE is just one step, right? I think there has to be an immediate pathway for every single undocumented immigrant that's here in this country today that does not require them to shell out thousands of dollars to go through their process for it to take decades at a time to be able to get to citizenship, an immediate pathway to citizenship. Immediate pathway to citizenship. No deportations, no ICE, immediate pathway to citizenship. So amnesty for all illegals. At the same time, this woman was winning yesterday, the mother of, Sheridan Gorman, the 18-year-old college student who was killed in Chicago on a peer, minding her own business with her friends a couple of months ago, shot by an illegal in the back

of the neck as she ran away from him at like 1.30 in the morning. Sheridan's mom, a testified before Congress, appeared to testify before Congress. And this is unbelievable, Matt. Representative Promea Jaya Jaya Paul sat down in front of these angel families because it wasn't just Sheridan's mom. There was another, there were some other family members, said the following to these grieving parents. Another guy just lost his daughter at age 20. Sheridan was 18 and it was just killed a couple of months ago. Listen to this Jayapal, speak to them. She's a Washington state representative. Soap 23.

Let me start by offering my deepest condolences to you, Mrs. Gorman, and to you, Mr. Abraham, for the loss of your children. As a parent myself, I can think of. of no greater loss, and I appreciate you being here to share their stories and their lives with us. Unfortunately, this hearing is the fourth time in this committee that we've had a hearing on Sanctuary Cities, the fourth time. And there's many other things that we could be doing

other than this. I would have loved to have had some hearings on the unconstitutionality of the president's executive order on eliminating birthright citizenship. She said that to a grieving mom and a grieving dad. And then Jamie Raskin comes into, listen to him. Sot 24. As a father, I too know the pain and devastation of losing a child. And my heart goes out to you and to your families. Our colleagues are conducting an endless series of hearings on sanctuary cities. This is our fourth such hearing. Again, raising,

It's a fourth hearing. This is a lot on this issue. Mrs. Gorman. And then Jessica, Sheridan's mom, had the chance to respond and made clear in her comments, which she clearly ad libbed this part. She didn't know what they were going to say. She heard what they said and knew exactly what they were doing. Listen to her.

It's not 25. The story is about my Sheridan. It's about how failed border policies, sanctuary city laws and twisted leaders, refused to cooperate with ICE. They sent her to her grave. And the question before this committee is painfully simple. When did protecting our American citizens stop being your first priority? And even more important, why did protecting our American citizens stop being your first priority?

I want an explanation. I need one. And I deserve one. And I honestly can't make sense of it. I cannot make peace with it. And in what world does the child who spent her life making sure no one was low? die terrified and alone on a peer in Chicago. In what world does the girl who saw everyone become invisible to the people in power responsible for protecting her?

This cannot be explained away, and it cannot be buried beneath the list of unrelated issues that you all paraded before us. Thanks for telling me without telling me that, you know, you're here, but you don't want to be. This is the fourth, this is the fourth time you had angel families. thanks for telling me you don't care. She will always be my sweet sunshine. And if the people who failed her would rather look away, then I'm really, then I'm asking the rest

of you to look right at her. Here she is. There's she and I. Here she is. This is taking the day before she died. Say her name. Tell her story and demand better. Because my Sharon and Grace Gorman should still be alive. And no mother should have to stand

where I am standing. Begging. Begging! elected leaders to value my child's life after it's already too late. I wake up in the middle of the night and then I think, did my daughter cry for me? She made it 40 feet. She made it 40 feet running for her life.

Did she cry out for me? She died on that pavement all by herself, lonely, bleeding on that pavement. And I will never, ever rest. I don't understand why it's only the Republican side. that cares about our American children. And I know that you're a mother. I know that you're a father.

I deeply value that. But basically what you just did, what you said was, I'm so sorry for your loss. I have a daughter too. I have a son. I feel your pain. You don't. You don't feel my pain.

Because the next words out of your mouth were, but there's no but when your child is in a coffin. Incredibly powerful. And how inappropriate of these Democrats, Matt. Yeah, I mean, this is one of the mysteries to me of what's happened to the Democratic Party in the last 20 years is there seems to that they seem to have lost a sense of how they sound to ordinary people. They have decided that certain messaging imperatives are more important than seeming human at times. I don't in any way want to compare my situation to what happened to Ms. Gorman. But when I testified before Congress, the behavior of the Democrats was so unbelievably disrespectful

that they gave an enormous boost to people who were against Internet censorship just by being unattractive characters on camera. And it's so strange for a politician not to be conscious of how obnoxious it sounds when you don't do the obvious thing, which is just to sit there and listen. If you have objection to the policy, you can make it later. But don't be disrespectful to somebody who is grieving and emotional. How is that ever going to help you politically? I just don't understand that kind of behavior. And good for Jessica for calling them out on it. She made that a very powerful moment that is tough to forget.

Matt, it's great to see you. Thank you so much for coming on. Come on again soon, would you? Thanks so much, Megan. Take care. Oh, you too. More ahead with first-time guest Rob Finnerty, and I will show you why I love this guy.

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Finnerdy. Rob is a long-time journalist and TV host. He's currently the host of Finnerdy at 8 p.m. Eastern each weeknight on newsmax. Now, before I bring them on, I want to show you how Rob first came to my attention. I mean, I heard of him prior to this. This is when I knew I was in love that I had found a compadre out there in the ether with whom I shared an affinity for mocking people and other things. Watch this clip. We played it on this show when it happened. Watch this. On another note, tonight, the New York City mayoral debate last night, but I'm less interested in what the candidates actually said, and I'm more interested in why we keep doing this. Government Affairs reporter Melissa Russo, senior politics editor at Politico, Sally Goldenberg,

and Telemundo 47 anchor Rosarena Breton. This is a two-hour debate. All right, so we have talked about this, and I don't just, I just don't get why we do this, who started it, when this started, but whenever it is a Spanish name, we, We are all suddenly required and expected to shape shift into the perfect Spanish accent. Normal, everyday news people do it all the time. They forget years of training. They forget their non-regional diction. That Telemundo anchors, by the way, Rosarina Brenton.

Just say Rosarina Brenton. But for whatever reason, we all feel the need to pronounce it like we're living in Mexico, like we're living in a country where Spanish is the native tongue. That's not the case here in the U.S. Rosarina, Britannia. He said it. I couldn't understand what he was saying. As I've said before, I am Irish.

And if I was moderating that debate, would the host introduce me as Robert James Finnerty, don't you know the little lad? That he is, Robert James Finnerty. If the host was Chinese, would they then introduce that person with a Chinese accent? I don't think so. So stop doing it when they're Spanish. Just stop it. Also, we don't need to say all three names when they are Spanish. No one describes me as Robert James Finnerty.

I'm just Rob Finnerty. We don't need to say Kilmar-Abrugu Garcia. It's just Kilmar Garcia. I don't know who started this, but enough's enough. Stop. Just stop. Oh, my goodness. You, Rob.

Thanks so much for coming on. I am your ardent fan. You are hilarious. Thank you, Megan. That, you know, my producer in my ear actually had to say to me, don't say anything in a Chinese accent right in that moment. Because you've been there. You've been there.

TV. I thought about it. I considered it. And if you watch it again, I felt it. Yeah. There's a little spot. I didn't do it. So that's probably a good thing. I did. I was like, oh, he's thinking about it. Thinking about it. I thought about it. You get canceled for that. Like Shane Gillis, you're not allowed. I guess you can do the Irish accent. You can do the Latino accent, but you can't do the Chinese accent. It's one of the unwritten rules. We're not there yet. Maybe one day. And I'm tempted to do it now, but I'm not going to. I so agree with you. I had made these points to my team. in the past, you know, like, look at it.

I definitely mocked the Telemundo anchor, but never so effectively. You did it so well. Are you good with accents? Have you historically been good with the accents? Ooh, I did. I did do a little bit of theater when I was younger. And I never thought this would, I mean, I would go from like hockey practice to rehearsal

when I was in high school, which is a little different, I guess. I didn't think I'd be talking about that today, but I'm fine with it. Um, that quality, it's helped me, my mom would say, oh, it's building character. And I'd be like, mom, when do I get to use said character? Uh, I guess in that moment. And sure enough, look at you now. Using it out on the airwaves to make us all happy as we watch things like the telemundo debate. Yes.

It was ridiculous. That was the New York debate, right? That was the, um, what debate? What was the, who is debating? It was the New York mayor candidates, right? It was Zora Mamm, Donnie back during those days, because Curtis Lee was out there. But we were mocking. Remember Fox partnered with, I think it was Telemundo again, on their presidential debate. And there was that one third anchor with Martha and Brett, who was from Telemundo. And of course, everything she said, Anne Coulter later joke that you needed captions to understand what she was saying. But we had to do the triple name. It's like, it's a lot. You know, Kilmar Obrego Garcia. Why are we affording him all the respect? I understand how Spanish names marry the mothers and the fathers. But it's like, we're in America. You pick your top two. That's all you get.

No, especially when it's Kilmar Obrigo Garcia, who shouldn't even be in this country. Like, why are we honoring this man, like bestowing all three names on him? It would be like if I called you Megan Middle Name Kelly Esquire, we just, we don't do that. But whenever it's a Spanish or Hispanic name, for whatever reason, like I said, we feel the need to like shape shift and bestow all this title on people. But if it's an Irish name like me, like Robert Finner, or Megan Kelly, don't you know, we never do that. We don't do it. We don't do it when it's somebody who's Chinese or Japanese or whatever.

It's just, it's like this, it's a weird thing the left started doing. And everybody in the media, especially local news. And I can say this because I was in the local news for a long time. They all do it. And they all like, pride themselves on it. They're all like, you see what I did during the commercial break. And you're like, yeah, why did you do that, you know? It's a pander.

It's a blatant pander. We've been seeing a lot of it lately. I was just talking about Taibi about how Craig Melvin gave a little, like, trigger warning before he used the term biological boy and girl before reading the Supreme Court opinion yesterday, basically chastising the U.S. Supreme Court for using sex-based descriptions of gender. It's like they've lost their way. He wasn't the only one. There was more that went down yesterday on the Supreme Court and the way that they were talking about it. Here, listen to NBC's Kelly O'Donnell, who's upset about

President Trump in the wake of the Supreme Court opinion on girls sports and keeping boys out of them. So for the president, this will clearly be a case that he will cite as a victory. He has talked about it as a cultural issue. It's been a big part of his discussion on the campaign trail. He often sort of boils it down into bumper sticker language talking about transgender athletes and that that's universally bad. That's his interpretation of it. It's obviously much more complex. It's an area of of American life where there are very deeply personal issues, especially when it's involving minors, religious implication, all kinds of things that make those cultural issues such hot buttons when it comes to how they interface with politics and with moments like this.

So shame on President Trump for boiling it down into bumper sticker language, Rob. And it was all her opinion. And the Craig Melvin, I don't know if you think Craig Melvin, when I saw that, to me, that red. as an ad lib or something he decided he was going to do right before the segment when he said, you know, biological male, biological woman, and we're just going to use this language and be aware of this is the language that's in the opinion and in the decision. I think he made that decision in the moment. And Kelly O'Donnell, I can remember she's been there a long time. I used to have a lot of respect for her. She, I don't ever think my grandmother would say, I want the news to be

the way it used to be, and that's right down the middle. And I would say, Mama, Walter Crony I used to sail with the Kennedys. All right. It's never been right down the middle. And Kelly O'Donnell is one of these. She's one of these reporters that's been around since the world was flat. And I used to have a lot of respect for her.

But over the last, really, in the last 10 years since Donald Trump, it's become clear that every report that she does. And I mean every is now just her opinion about whatever she's talking about. Yes. There's more from her. Wait, listen to us at 29.

And while Laura talks about the broadness, of this. It is also notable that it is narrow in the sense of the numbers of transgender athletes who are seeking to compete. That that is a very small pool in many ways. Honestly, we've heard this from all these leftist reporters yesterday, Rob. It's just like just a handful of trainees out there who are trying to steal girls medals. Stop worrying about this so much. Meanwhile, I read yesterday from an article in Out Sports, which is all about LGBTQ people in sports, saying they think they have no way of knowing, but there are tons of athletes who haven't actually come out

who are trans at the college level. And they put it at tens of thousands in the high school level. So like it's just not true. It's not true. They went off some NCAA official saying there's only 10 out trans people in the college level that we know about. That's not true either. But that's what all these leftists pin their hopes on

to diminish the fairness rights of girls nationwide. And that's totally disingenuous. And it's a lie. Think about Leah Thomas at U Penn in Ivy League School. She won a national championship. Sorry, he won a national championship in swimming at Penn. So even if it was just won, this person won a national championship. I had Peyton McNabb on the show last night in high school. She was a volleyball player. Lovely young woman in 2022. Some guy who was like six foot three dressed up as a girl playing volleyball, spiked a ball right into her face. She was unconscious for more than a minute, had to go to the hospital. suffered a traumatic brain injury. She was in the hospital for more than a few days. She's

thankfully fully recovered. But even if it is just, it's the same thing with the illegal alien argument. Oh, you know, Sheridan and Gorman, well, that's just, you know, that's a one-off. That's just an isolated incident. First of all, no, it's not. But when it comes to men playing in women's sports, even if it were just a few, which of course it is not, that's no excuse. That doesn't make it any better. Leah Thomas took that national championship, that Division I national championship away from a real biological woman. Yes, 100% right. And yeah, we love Peyton and McNabb.

She's one of the reasons we got the decision we did yesterday because she stood up and she said no, none of this bullshit. Stop, stop, stop. Okay. Thankfully today is July 1st. And I think we're all heaving a sigh of relief because Pride Month is officially over. And no one, no one wanted any more Pride Month. No sane person wanted any more Pride Month because of displays like this.

This one, here is, this is from New York City, from the Dike March. You may have missed it, but it happened last week, SOT 30. Oh, God is it done. James Talrico would be proud. Are you there? Wonderful. James Talarico. Yes, wonderful.

The streets of New York. That was just one example. There's plenty more. This one is, let's see. Oh, yeah, this is Washington Square Park. This was disgusting. We saw this all over New York, where the new thing is to climb trees or poles and then twerk in the most X-rated way possible. Here's SOT 31.

And this is also from, this happened just over the weekend, I think it was Sunday. We're throwing bottles of tops. Yeah. So it's going really well. The pride celebrations were exactly what we ended. anticipated they would be. So, Megan, two observations from Pride 2026, and I'm so happy that it's July 1st now. But this, first of all, it's getting worse and more perverted and more sadistic every single year. When gay marriage became legal, I think it was 2015, Barack Obama,

Pride was like, I can remember my local news station, they wouldn't let us get political at that time, but we were required to be a part of the Pride celebration in Tampa, Florida. And all the anchors had to be on the pride float. I remember I asked my former CNN producer, now news director, how this is not political. And she said, it's just pride. You're celebrating people coming out of the closet. And I said, well, yeah, you know, I don't want to lose my job.

But I was like, you're celebrating what people do. You're celebrating what people choose to do behind closed doors, what they choose to do in the bedroom. And nobody celebrates what I do in the bedroom. I wish they would have a parade for it. They never will, okay? But for whatever reason, we are all required to honor and celebrate what these people do.

And if you look at pride parades in 2013, 14, 15, they were a lot calmer. I lived in Boston, and I saw one, and I was younger. And I remember it was Santa Claus whipping reindeer, and the reindeer were men. And I remember that was the first inkling I had that, hey, wait a second, maybe this is more than just like I had the courage

to come out of the closet to my parents. But then the other part of this is the violence. This year we saw that. The media won't cover it. They do what they always do, and that's cover it up. But these are all very violent by and large. And in Seattle, this past weekend, Pride went out with a bang there.

People got arrested. Independent journalists that were covering it got attacked. And then the people that did it who were also Pride slash Antifa, they were arrested. So these are also very, very violent events by and large. It's like you're right, because there seems to be like an increase, like the hockey stick in perversion and criminal behavior at these events. the country's not in the mood for it. Notwithstanding what we saw in Minneapolis, we covered this yesterday morning on our AM Update podcast,

which is just news headlines. In Minneapolis, they're bringing back public bathhouses for sex romps amongst gay people. Like, that's the open goal of it. And they think if you have a judgment on it, you're a homophobe, you're a bigot. I don't understand why gay men can't have sex in their own. houses and apartments like everybody else.

Why does it have to happen at a public bath house? These things used to be prevalent. They were banned in the 80s amidst the AIDS crisis. And here is a local lawmaker in Minneapolis trying to justify why you and I and all the other citizens should be in favor of this. Listen to this. I think it's important to address this. The weaponization of hypersexualization of our queer communities as a means to all.

bring forward repressive policies that limits their existence and their ability to be in community with each other. The idea that this policy has been repeatedly framed as facilitation of brothel or sexual activity as those folks just want to go out and have sex, which you know what? How for, maybe that might might help actually bring more joy into our city. But to say that this policy is essentially the facilitation of legalizing brothels. is not what's happening. Well,

Robin Walmsley. Go ahead. Yeah, it's actually exactly what's happening. It's in community. Look, I have no problem with people having, you know,

having sex with each other as long as it's consensual. That's a wonderful thing. I agree with the last part. Terrific, fine. But when she, when she, all right,

I'm pro. But when she says in community with one another, she's referring to gay sex. And you're exactly right. I was in the mid-1980s in New York, Ed Koch, the mayor then, who was a gay man, closed these in New York City because so many people were getting AIDS and we didn't have a cure for AIDS. We don't have a cure for AIDS today. You can live

with it and you can test negative for it and you don't necessarily pass it on to your partner. And that's a wonderful thing. But like this is still a very serious disease. And part of the reason these closed in the 1980s and cities across the country is because there was no way, think about a restaurant, for example. If the Board of Health wants to go in and find you, they can go in and say, hey, look, you put the buffalo tenders in the same friar as the fish. You can't do that, and you get a fine. And they look at your bathrooms and they look at the kitchen cleanliness and that sort of thing. There was no real way to do this. So there was a ton of corruption and a ton of illegality. And a lot of these, they were trafficking minors in these brothels for gay sex. And that's just a fact. It makes people uncomfortable in the city of Minneapolis. But that is just a fact. And I'm just wondering if like somebody is going to apply for a license to like reopen one of these in downtown Minneapolis. Yes, it's happening. By the way, Brian Cole, Coil, was one of the councilmen who voted to close these clubs in Minneapolis, like did not think that the bathhouse was a good idea. He was gay and he would later die of AIDS. He recognized this is not a good idea.

We should not be encouraging this kind of behavior amongst strangers in a bathhouse in public in Minneapolis. And so now we're going there again because we have medication that can suppress the HIV virus such that it's not as easily transmissible in sexual acts. But this woman is actually out there saying maybe we should be encouraging public gay sex because it creates joy for it. them. And then you hear at the beginning of her soundbite, she said, we are, we are weaponizing the hyper-sexualization of gay people. Like, they are hyper-sexual, she's saying, and we're weaponizing it by objecting to public sex in bathhouses by them. This is insane. Straight people don't need to have sex in public in a bathhouse or anywhere else. Why to gay people? Why is it, why am I a bigot? if I don't want to walk down the street with my kid past a bathhouse where we know there's a

bunch of gay sex happening inside. Exactly, right down the street from a school and a police station. And then where's the line? What's next? Do they want to make prostitution legal in a place like Minneapolis? I mean, that's what this opens. For the joy. Yeah, for the for the joy. No, this is for the joy. And by the way, again, I'm, I think it's wonderful that they have treatment for HIV and AIDS. They didn't have that, you know, 45 years ago when it broke out in the the late 1980s and millions of people lost their lives. And that's a tragedy. And they have that now and that's great.

But if you look at these commercials, again, I will be with my children. We will be watching like a baseball game. And it'll be a commercial where they're not normalizing treatment. They're normalizing HIV AIDS. And somebody's like on a kayak and they're like sitting in a jacuzzi and they're out like an art class and a yoga class. And that's all terrific. But the message should still be practice safe sex, right? Like are we still at that point?

I think we should be. Yes, absolutely. And here's, here's this. There's an op-ed in the Minneapolis Star Tribune, which is a far-left paper. And the opinion is why repealing Minneapolis's bathhouse ban could be a public health win. Could be a big win for public health. Oh, I'm sure it will be. They've lost their minds. This is Tim Walz's estate, of course, in Jacob Fry's City. And Jacob Fry's been all over the media celebrating this. Does not feel like a step forward to me. on the subject, well, of what we were discussing. Jesse Smollett is back in the news, Rob. Jesse Smollett showed up at a Harlem. I guess it was Pride Fest because he was in Harlem dancing with some other gay men. And here's what that looked like. And listen to the lyrics, if you can hear it here.

It's not 32. Okay. He wants you to know. He ain't hurting no more from, I guess, all the terrible abuse we've heaped on. him unjustly? I ain't hurting no more. Not a bad dancer, by the way. Like, that's, that takes some. Not a great one, though. No, no, not great. Better than you and me, I'm sure. But like, you still have to, I'm going to say I was slightly underwhelmed. You have to learn the steps. So that takes, I guess that requires some skill. Is he, is he looking to make a comeback now,

I suppose? Clearly. And I'm sure he thinks he can have it act too. Yeah. And the two gentlemen around him not wearing MAGA hats. I suppose. But this is what I've noticed with the left. I was not a big fan of cancel culture when that was happening. I think that somebody like Matt Lauer, by the way, Matt Lauer has been off the grid for 10 years. A lot of people have come back and were accused of far worse. There are people out there that, you know, on the, on one side, maybe don't get an opportunity. And I'm not saying Matt Lauer needs to come back to the today show. But you miss Matt. Are you thirsty for a little that louder content. No, no, but I just, I just, I think that when you're on the left,

it is, it, there is no cancellation. You get to come back, uh, whenever you want. And, and there's never a cancellation. Right. You can pull a whole fake race hoax about being lynched, you know, the news around the neck and doused with gasoline in the middle of the night. You can humiliate Robin Roberts, um, with your fake news interview. And she was so, gentle with him and so empathetic toward his victimhood. Yes. And it's no problem. Yes.

You can skirt, skirt responsibility. He never really had to pay for that crime. Remember his, I'm not suicidal. I'm not suicidal. Well, he never really had to do anything because of the COVID and whatever. He really never did any time for that crime. And now you can be the headliner of the Harlem event. And I'm sure he will get scooped up by some TV show or some movie producer and given

another chance because he's a leftist, gay. black man who, you know, race hoaxes are acceptable as long as they're accusing, you know, MAGA people of doing bad things. And you know this. The media contributes to this problem. Robin Roberts, I think she's a nice person. I think these people are looking for these stories. I think she's a nice person I've met her once. But I think these people are looking for these stories. And as soon as they see them, they don't ask any actual critical questions. They hear the story. They read the headline. And then they jump on it and propagate this. And they are part of this problem and this cycle. His story was that two black guys jumped him when he was leaving,

I think a subway around midnight. And they said, this is MAGA country. Two in the morning. Two in the morning, even better. And the rest of the media, I mean, more than half of the media, just immediately jumped on the story and thought this was the worst thing that ever happened. Without asking any questions, and Robin Roberts is part of the problem. Yeah. No, she fell down on the job. First hour we discussed how Nina Totenberg did too. I don't know if you followed that at all yesterday, but she reported that Alito's retiring and he's not. She's the NPR Supreme Court correspondent.

Rob, she actually excused her failure with the following explanation. And she's sorry, whatever, she, whatever, that she was leaving the high court after covering it for 50 years. She was leaving the high court and she heard something about retirement announcements, but she didn't hear the S on the second word. So what she says she heard was there was something about a retirement announcement. From that, she reported on NPR that Justice Alito was stepping down. That's it. Can you imagine trying to go to your newsmax bosses and say, I heard two words, retirement announcement as I left the Supreme Court.

I'm just going to go ahead and say it's Justice Alito. let's run with that. And like, that's her explanation that she just randomly heard those two words. Nothing about Justice Alito. No name, no confirmation from a justice or a source close to a justice. Nothing. They put it on NPR. They blasted it out everywhere. And she still got her job today. Yeah. Is she still technically with NPR? She, I think she semi-retired from doing the Supreme Court correspondent work. But it doesn't matter. on the big days. NPR still tweeted it and retweeted her. That's correct, right? Yeah. Oh, they still use her. She was there covering it for NPR yesterday because it was a big day.

And she's been there covering the Supreme Court forever. Um, but I imagine this is why NPR, this is why people don't trust NPR. This is why people don't trust PBS. Think about like when people on the right and politicians in Washington when they say they're biased, they're not, they're not lying. And if Justice Alito, and I saw the Supreme Court, to your. point, they immediately acknowledged this and said it's not true, which is very uncommon for the Supreme Court. That's very uncommon for the High Court to do. And they immediately acknowledged it. And nobody else had the story. Just this has been NPR reporter talking about a conservative justice. And the story was immediately redacted. And that can happen if you're on the left.

If you do it on the right, if I did it, you've got a good chance of getting fired. That's how serious that is. Immediately. No questions asked. Your ass would be out of there. So would mine. It would be an utter humiliation. It's just ridiculous, the double standard. Okay. I want to keep going, but this is a topic shift. We're looking a little bit of presidential politics soon. By this time next summer, we're probably going to have a pretty good feel for who's running on team red and team blue. And one of the guys we think is going to throw us hat in the ring on the blue team is Governor J.B. Pritzker of Illinois. He's starting to throw out a couple of opening salvos, you know, a little red meat for his base. And they include this in SOT 34. Watch us. The president says the Democratic Socialist, which he says is a nice term for communist, as he's been labeling these Democrats since they won last week. He says they're the greatest threat to the country since its founding. And he said that includes World War I, World War II, Pearl Harbor, and 9-11. Like the man is continually suffering from dementia.

I don't think he really understands what he's saying. The truth is that, I mean, this is a man who's threatened to jail, the mayor of Chicago, the governor of Illinois. He regularly threatens to go after people and indeed has used the Department of Justice to go after people. So, you know, he just, I think he has these concepts in his head and he blurts them out without really thinking. So J.B. Prisker would like you to know that Trump has dementia. I don't remember him. That's not true, but I don't remember him speaking up at all about someone who actually was having obvious signs of memory loss and some sort of brain deterioration. And that was the Democratic president, Joe Biden from his party. Yes. Yes. How dare you? You don't have a medical degree. I dealt with that for four years. And I'm not like a Trump sycophant. I think people think, oh, he works in newsmax. He must be like a total.

You know, he's totally in the bag for Donald Trump. Not at all, but I agree with you. Donald Trump and I am armchair diagnosing, just like I did with Joe Biden. And guess what? I can do that because I have two eyes and a brain. I don't have a medical degree, but I have two eyes in a brain and I'm able to do that. And I have grandparents that had Alzheimer's disease. And my mother was a hospice nurse for 30 years. Does that make me an expert? No, but it gives me some exposure. But I also just live in the world. Okay. So like everyone else. So when you see it, you know what it is. You might not know the exact diagnosis. But you know what it is. Donald Trump is fine. Donald Trump has all his marbles. I think the man probably should sleep more. I think he would benefit from a good night's sleep. I think he probably would benefit from maybe not being up at two in the morning calling and texting reporters and being on truth social. And I mean that totally honest. And his vice president. Exactly. Okay. But Donald Trump does not have dementia, but this narrative from people like Pritzker in Illinois, who by the way, she just called Donald Trump and beg for the National Guard to save that city. That is one of America's really wonderful cities. And it's been destroyed by the crime. That's,

been allowed to run rampant by Brandon Johnson, the mayor, and J.B. Pritzker. But the fact that the left is now talking about this. And I know that you have a relationship with Jake Tapper. I don't think Jake likes me very much, but the man covered up the Joe Biden health story for four years, right up until that debate. Then it was okay to talk about it. And then he wrote a book to make money off of that story. And that no matter what, I think that is one of the problems. And I think the left are still dealing with the same problems that Joe Biden and people like Jake Tapper and the media left them with in 2024. Well, that's another thing.

Yes, I agree with you. It was very obvious to all the media, including Tapper and everyone else, that Joe Biden wasn't all there. They just refused to report on it because they wanted him to win the presidency against Donald Trump. But on the Nina Totenberg from, she wrote a whole book about Ruth Bader Ginsburg. And she knew, she knew that RBG had pancreatic cancer. and she did not report on it.

And I mean, ask yourself, like, if you have that kind of a scoop as a Supreme Court reporter and you don't report on that, like, that's a dereliction of duty in and of itself. Like, the left hates RBG now because she died in office rather than allowing the seat to go up for a Democrat president to choose her replacement. That's how we got Amy Coney Barrett. And like the Nina Totenbergs of the world decided to cover that. Again, do you think they do that for conservative justice? It's like these reporters, they see the world through entirely different prisms. And by the way, I do wonder, like any reporter sitting there talking to Governor Pritzker who said Joe Biden has dementia like Caitlin Collins would have been challenged.

They would have been challenged immediately to the point you're saying. Immediately. You're not allowed to diagnose from the armchair. Think about Jake Tapper. But with Trump, it's fine. Yeah, think about Jake Tapper and Laura Trump. It was for four years. You were kind of, you were like fringe if you even said that.

If you said, and by the way, Joe Biden, we're not talking about 2024. And we don't need to relitigate Joe Biden. I know, but it's so important because this is, they wanted to run this guy again, Megan. They wanted to run him again. If that debate doesn't happen in June of 2024, he's probably the nominee. And I still think Donald Trump beats him in November, but he still would have been the nominee. They thought they wanted to keep this going. Whoever was pulling the strings in the background.

And this man was not okay. in 2020, but he was able to navigate that election cycle because of the pandemic. He was able to literally do interviews from his basement. That's not hyperbole. He would set up a Zoom in his basement with his wife right next to him and do two or three interviews a week and he was campaigning. COVID allowed him to do that and then he got 81 million votes apparently and he became the president. But he was not okay in my opinion mentally, cognitively, in 2020, let alone 24, let alone January 2029 if he were to win re-election. You see him at this event, you know, last week where they have him out there and he can't, he can barely spit out words

and you think that they actually told us this guy should have ongoing access to the nuclear codes. It's crazy. All right. When we come back, we have to take a break. We got to talk about what's happening at Wimbledon. Yes, Wimbledon, I say, because we've got not only got Naomi Osaka entering like she's some sort of a queen, but Serena Williams. in yet another example of poor sportsmanship. It's kind of the main storyline whenever she appears. That's next when we come back with Rob Finnerty. Don't go away.

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So what's happening at Wimbledon with these divas, Rob, is a bit much. Okay? A couple years ago, we had Naomi Osaka, who couldn't perform, she couldn't be interviewed by the press, she couldn't be asked about why she doesn't play that well on clay because it was these nasty reporters

trying to get into her head. Every other reporter could sit for that. Every other reporter got asked about their weaknesses. It's not fun as the journalist to zero in on their strengths. We always go for the place that hurts. That's what we get paid to do. Everyone can take it except for her. And then they changed the whole rule

where players would now have these mental health rooms to get ready in before they had to go play and they'd have psychiatric counseling. if they needed it, all because of this woman. Now she arrives to the U.S. Open in some head-to-toe white kimono trying to look like, I don't know, some sort of a goddess, some sort of a queen. Now she's leaning into her fabulousness, Rob, and we're all expected to get on board and celebrate Naomi. Well, it's a no. I don't respect Naomi Osaka at all. She's not tough. She's weak. and only somebody who is would walk in needing that kind of attention as opposed to somebody who

lets the game speak for itself. So let's start with Naomi Osaka. You, first of all, the outfit, I mean, you just normally would wear like your athletic gear when you arrive and you go underneath and you, right, and you get ready and then you come out and everyone class. Maybe a track suit. Yeah, that's what everybody's done. But you think about like, I grew up with tennis stars in the 90s, like Pete Sampras, Andy Roddock, Andre Agassi. If you go a little further back, like Jimmy Connors and John McEnroe, and these people were competitors. Chrissy Everett?

Of course, of course. And you can keep going back. What's her name? The one who married Andre, Steffie Graff, like the greatest of all time. Oh, yeah, she's a doll. No, it's, and you look at what's happened and what's changed. They were competitors. You look at like Raffa Dundal now, and I'm not the biggest tennis fan.

But you can't not watch these people when they're competing in majors. because all they want to do is beat each other. And you look at Cocoa Goff and you look at the competitors on the women's side. I mean, really on the men's side, too. And it's just, it's like this generation of like little weaklings who can't sit down and do a press conference who are making millions of dollars off the court as well in endorsements. And they can't, they're not there for the fans. They're there.

Look at me, flowing robes. Like, how do you want people to react to that? Like, if I brought my daughter, if you were there with your kids, how do you explain that? You'd be like, well, that's just, I guess that's what she, that's what they do, I guess. She's wearing that. So we have to, we have to honor her and clap and, and genuflect as well. And bow and curtsy. Yes.

Naomi Osaka was part of the, like, black only dinner party that happened during the French Open. It's just so outrageous. Like, if you and I had a whites only dinner party, we, we, if I was in traditional media, would get fired. You'd get fired from news. I was like, but you can have a black only dinner party because that's a celebration. of, you know, I guess blackness, which is allowed, but celebrations of whiteness are not. No.

And she was big on the BLM stuff, but you can't ask her questions about Clay. And she's shy and she needs mental health counseling, but she's totally entitled to call all this attention to herself in a head-toe white kimono as she arrives in Wimbledon. And I guess, are we allowed to ask about that or not? I'm not clear on the rules on what you can ask Naomi about and what you can't,

because we're all just living in her world. and speaking of the weird behavior around the pressers that follow the matches, Rob, which all of the players do. And most of them dislike. At least the losers dislike them, because you've just lost a match and you really don't want to be asked about it. It's hard, but it's part of tennis. They all do it. Serena Williams at age 44 decides to try to reemerge at Wimbledon.

And look, hats off to her. She actually is the goat of female tennis. I think her numbers are even better than Steffie Graffs. Forgive me, Stephanie, if I'm wrong. But they're right. They're right. I think they might both have 23 grand slams. Yeah.

Crazy ass, you know, accomplishments. But age comes for us all. And so Serena tries to go back out there and she lost. She got her ass beat in her first round and went down. And guess what she refused to do? The press conference after the fact, which was considered universally bad form. by her. She's too much of a diva, Rob. She didn't want to have to submit herself to the questions of reporters. And there's a report out today that while she was refusing to do that, she was complaining

to the Wimbledon organizers who, since she lost, removed from her the ability to use five black cars, you know, like the town cars that take you around everywhere. There was one for her mom. There was one for her sister. There was one for her trainer. She had five. She lost. And they said, we're no longer going to pay for those five black cars. And reportedly, she complained. She wanted them throughout the tournament, period, end of report. I'm sick of this woman's diva behavior. And she's worth not millions of dollars, hundreds of millions of dollars.

She absolutely is the greatest of all time on the women's side. Not only that, but just as an athlete, 44 years old, they let her come back. And she didn't like come back to the Phoenix Open. They let her come back for the first time, the first match she's played, is at Wimbledon, which is one of the most prestigious tournament. if not the most prestigious tennis event that we have every year. She plays somebody who has got a 3 and 13 record, I think, is ranked something like 80th in the world.

And then there's that little neely weak handshake right there that drives me crazy. You are a leader. You are a legend in your sport. Give this young lady a hug. I don't know who she is. All right. Give her a hug.

She just beat somebody. She grew up idolizing, watching, and someone she probably never thought she would play, let alone at Wimbledon. And what does she do? she gives you this little wet, flaccid clam thing after the match because you just lost. You've got 39 Grand Slam wins, 23 singles wins. You're the greatest of all time.

Give this girl a proper handshake and a hug. And congratulate her, because this is a huge moment for tennis. And it's a huge moment in her life, whether or not she ever wins a match again. And then at the end, walk into that media briefing room, drink your Gatorade, and give a press conference, and answer every single question. answer every single question because this might be your last time doing it go out with grace dignity and style and by the way if you did that maybe the tournament will give you those five town cars that you don't deserve and that you don't need any more gas is expensive all right but maybe they would have but because you she handled it like a total loser she handled it like a total loser and it's a shame it's a

shame and it's bad for the sport yes she's got she's got a repeat problem with bad sportsmanship here You're right. The merely handshake with the woman who beat her who was 20-year-old Australian Maya Joint, who won. And you're right about her ranking. I think she's 78th in the world. She's, but she beat Serena. She's a lot younger, a lot younger. And people, that's why the older players don't do well. They can't last. Serena fell apart in the third set. That's what happened here. Of course, because she's 24 years older than this other girl. Right. Foreseeable. And by the way, she took the spot of another girl who could have been there ascending in her, career, whatever. She wanted to see her name and lights again. She got it. And then those press conferences afterward are mandatory. And she refused to go. And then it actually came out the Daily Mail's reporting that when Serena tried to come back in 2022, she was beaten there too in the first round by Harmony Tan. And Harmony Tan said that Serena after the match, right after, blocked Harmony Tan on Instagram. Like, that's Serena. She blocked the girl who beat her. She gave the barely their handshake to this girl.

She refused to show up at the mandatory press conference. She bitched that her five car, town cars were taken away from her. And look, who could forget what happened at the U.S. Open? I was it 10 years ago when she berated that little lines judge, remember? Right. Watch it. The tape is infamous. Next shot's not going to show us.

That's to bring up. That is extraordinary. So Raymond Williams is giving it to her. Well, she'll have to be careful here. She's already had a warning for a racket abuse. Here we go. And this could be trouble. I think this is really indicative of Serena's not, isn't it?

And what she was yelling was, reportedly, I swear to God, I'll effing take the ball and shove it down your effing throat to that. The line judge who was like running from A to B. Anyway, your thoughts on her. Right. Well, I think that's a felony, by the way, if she were to do something like that, I think if she were to do that, Matt, she did that on the court right there. Everyone's like, wow, this match really. No, it's too bad.

I remember in the 1980s, Michael Jordan lost multiple years to either Magic Johnson or Larry Bird and then the Detroit Pistons in the playoffs. And you can go back on YouTube and watch the press conferences. He was dejected. He was depressed. He didn't know if he'd ever make it to the top. I'm talking about Michael Jordan here.

And he's sitting here. He's taking his lumps. He's, you know, and the sports media is not, they're not great. They're hard. But he sat there and took his lumps and then he went on to win six titles. And he vanquished everyone, including the Detroit Pistons, including the Lakers and the Celtics as well. And I look at Serena Williams and it just, it bothers me that these, I understand how competitive this is.

And in that moment, I'm sure she was upset. But you go back to Wimbledon, Megan, and you think about all the people that are there who maybe have never seen her before that are watching. There are probably families. It's a big corporate event, but there are families. They're little girls and little boys there. They're like, wow, we get to see Serena. We thought she was retired. And then she does that.

And it just sort of confirms in your mind what's been building up for years and years about this woman, that she is a great, great player, but maybe not a great person. And there's a difference. Yeah. There's a difference. Totally. There is definitely a sense of entitlement there that shines whenever she's in the spotlight. Yeah. Okay.

Last been out least, Dwayne the Rock Johnson. has come out to say he doesn't want to get political. He just wants to act. He enjoys being on the big screen and bringing joy to people through his acting and his movies. And he thinks that's a gift. And he doesn't want to get political because he realizes how toxic it is and how it alienates a lot of people. 100% feel like people on our side of the aisle. That's all we've been asking.

We don't need you to say conservative things or be a Trump supporter or anything. But it's just like, please let us have the. The not knowing whether you hate us or not. We would love to have the not knowing. Well, that's not acceptable to some. George Takai, the Star Trek guy, he's ripping on him all over threads. He's very upset with that position. And now Will Wheaton.

You don't know who Will Wheaton is, but I'll tell you, Will Wheaton was one of the little boys from Stand by Me. He was like the sweet, the sweet, good-looking one. Well, so was River Phoenix. But anyway, he's one of the sweet good-looking ones. Great movie, by the way. He came out, great movie, and called Dwayne the Rock Johnson a coward for this decision. So disappointing to find out that he is such a coward. And what Dwayne the Rock Johnson said was, quote,

what I have learned through experience is that I need to keep, need, not want, to keep the main thing, the main thing. And the main thing for me, the thing that in the morning I swing my legs out of bed and I run toward is creating. It's art. It's storytelling. So I've learned I'm going to keep my politics to myself. There are moments when, hey, there's nothing we can't talk about. If I'm wrong, I'll tell you I'm wrong, or if I feel like I got a leg up. And this is the right way to go. I'll share it with you. But he doesn't want to get into politics because he says, I hate the slinging. I hate all the bullshit that comes with it. And now he's taking it on the chin from somebody really no one's

ever heard of, but this small sect of the left, the leftist acting crowd that insists your cowardly, the view just had this same discussion about, I think it was Keith Urban, who doesn't want to talk about his politics, which of course means that he's a conservative. And they berated him for that position, right, because they insist, or was it Kenny Chesney? It was one of them, I think it was Keith Urban, because they insist that you share their politics and then get vocal about them. I love this. I hadn't heard that. The Rock, it is interesting. The Rock does have a movie coming out July 10th, I think, Moana, the live action. So Michael Jordan, Republicans go to movies too. So maybe it's a smart business move on his part. But Johnny Carson was number one for something like 30 years because nobody knew his politics. He was definitely conservative from Nebraska, friends with Ronald Reagan. But that was part of his magic. And you look at Jimmy Kimmel and some of the others today. And it's so unattractive that half of the country can't watch them. I wish that people like George Clooney would take a page out of the Rock's book and do this

as well. Yeah. Because I like so many, Ben Affleck, so many of these actors that I really did like until I found out how much they hate half of the country. And it's really unattractive. And for anyone that says that it doesn't impact how you feel about their movies, to me it does. Now, I'll go still.

I'll see a Leonardo DiCaprio movie because he's the best. But I'm thinking about it in the movie. I will not see a George Clooney movie, though. Me neither. And that I would not say. And Ben Affleck says, I was going to say that Netflix movie that it just did was terrible, by the way. That stupid thing on the train, terrible movie.

George Clooney. Okay. I didn't even see it. Ben Affleck says he won't even act across from a Republican. So good luck. By the way, it was Kenny Chesney. I would submit to you then, Ben Affleck, you should say no to your next The Rock movie, because I'm just going to put it out there.

Nine times out of ten, the ones who won't talk about their politics are righties. They're conservatives. and they know what's going to happen in their careers in Hollywood if they speak out, unlike Chris Pratt, who was one of the few who were bold and unapologetic about it. Rob, a pleasure. We look forward to you coming back often. It was so fun. Thank you, Megan.

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