The Megyn Kelly Show - Redditor Helps Solve Brown U. Shooting Case, Tapper's Trump Health Sham, and Leftist Bullying, with Buck Sexton and Payton McNabb | Ep. 1217

Episode Date: December 19, 2025

Megyn Kelly is joined by Buck Sexton, co-host of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, to talk about the Brown U. and MIT alleged shooter found dead, the awkward self-congratulatory press conference after the culprit was found dead, how a Reddit poster helped solve the Brown U. shooting, the tools like AI getting better and helping crowdsource crime-solving, why privacy is a thing of the past, Jake Tapper's ridiculous CNN segment focused on Trump's health, leftist nonsense disguised as objective news, terrible Democratic and GOP messaging on the economy, some on the left and right who are more interested in fighting and petty social media squabbles than uniting, the viral report on how DEI negatively affected white millennial men, why the Trump administration is now trying to help white men sue for discrimination, and more. Payton McNabb, "Independent Women" ambassador, joins to discuss the boy who injured her in a girl's volleyball game playing the victim, never-seen TikTok videos of the boy, the bullying from John Oliver and others, the left taking shots at her and Democrats not cheering for her at Trump's March address, and more. Then Payton McNabb, "Independent Women" ambassador, joins to discuss the boy who injured her in a girl's volleyball game playing the victim, never-seen TikTok videos of the boy, the bullying from John Oliver and others, the left taking shots at her and Democrats not cheering for her at Trump's March address, and more. Sexton- https://www.youtube.com/@BuckSextonMcNabb-https://www.independentwomen.com/ Done with Debt: https://www.DoneWithDebt.com & tell them Megyn Kelly sent you!SelectQuote: Get the right life insurance for YOU, for LESS. Save more than 50% at https://selectquote.com/MEGYNMasa Chips: Ready to give MASA or Vandy a try? Get 25% off your first order by going to http://masachips.com/MK and using code MK.Chef iQ: Megyn shares her favorite holiday kitchen upgrade—Chef iQ SENSE, the perfect gift for any cook—and you can get 30% off at https://ChefIQ.com with code MK!  Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at:https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East. Hey everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show. It's finally over. The man accused of killing two and wounding nine in heinous shooting at Brown University this past Saturday was found dead by authorities Thursday night from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound. law enforcement tracked him down to a storage facility in Salem, New Hampshire, and now we know he is also the suspect in Monday evening's murder of a renowned MIT professor of nuclear science and engineering. So I guess we weren't actually safe when the mayor of Providence, Rhode Island, said, I know we're safe because there's been no additional shooting since Saturday morning. Actually, the MIT professor was not safe. No one was safe. until that guy put a bullet in his own brain.

Here's what we know about the shooter. His name is Claudio Nevis Valentine. Valente, I should say, Valente. And he's a 48-year-old Portuguese national. So, I mean, who predicted he was going to be from Portugal? What? Who entered the country on a student visa in 2000. He started at Brown University's physics PhD program

in the fall of that year, 2000, but took a leave of absence after the spring of 2001 semester and formally withdrew from the university in 2003. So what was he doing here? Homeland Security Secretary Christy Noem gave some color on X last night. Quote, Claudio Manuel Nevis Valenti entered the United States through the diversity lottery immigrant visa program, DV1, in 2017, and was granted a green card.

This heinous individual should never have been allowed in our country. In 2017, President Trump fought to end this program. following the devastating New York City truck ramming by an ISIS terrorist who entered under the DV1 program and murdered eight people. At President Trump's direction, I am immediately directing USCIS to pause the DV1 program to ensure no more Americans are harmed by this disastrous program, unquote. The AP reporting, it was not immediately clear where he was between taking a leave of absence from Brown University in 2001 and getting the visa in 2017. As far as the shooter's connection to the slain MIT professor, the FBI believes that they attended the same university in Portugal, where the professor is also from. The Shooters 48, the dead professor 47. No other information about motive is yet available. We have no idea.

I mean, no idea. By the way, there was a report, you know, he'd been yelling something, what was it? They came out last night. Nobody knows. somebody said he might have been growling. Nobody knows. We don't know why he did what he did. As we've been reporting, the Providence police and mayor mostly looked feckless and incompetent throughout this investigation.

And it now appears that they had no major leads until Wednesday. We'll have more on that in a bit. But that did... And like I said, a man died. I'm not blaming the Brown and the Providence officials for this murder of the MIT professor. But I would think when you're like, yeah, you don't need to shelter in place, no one else has died.

And then a man dies and then you find out it's the same shooter. It might tamp down your self-congratulatory tone when you come out to say he's finally been caught. Watch this. Tonight, our Providence neighbors can finally breathe a little easier. We all worked well together to be able to identify this suspect. I'm extremely proud of this department, and actually the officers, the detectives. It was all about groundwork, public assistance, interviews of individuals, and good old-fashioned policing.

And I will say that everybody brought a certain expertise to the table. We can feel like you're chasing leads and they don't work out. But the team keeps going. But when you do crack it, you crack it. Okay. Joining me now to react to this. And so much more is Buck Sack. Sexton, co-host of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show.

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Buck, welcome back. What do you make of the apprehension of the suspect who was dead, but they did find him? We don't know when he killed himself. Could have been as they closed in. Could have been earlier. Point is, he's dead and he's not going to hurt any other people. But the, I mean, the back padding by the Keystone cop crew was a bit much. Yeah, I'll be honest with you, Megan. I think that this has become a little bit of a trend. and it needs to stop. And I speak with some background in this because I was at the NYPD Intelligence Division

doing high profile counterterrorism investigations, including the Times Square bombing of that Faisal Shazade carried out. And so I remember getting called in on the weekend because the bombing happened and we had a task force, FBI, all these other agencies and we had to find this guy. We got him at the airport, actually on a plane,

on his way to Pakistan. So that was a near miss. And I think everybody took a moment to say, oh, wow, we got to move a little faster next time to get an individual. There wasn't a press conference called for everybody to high-five each other in law enforcement. And I think that this is something that everyone who's observing these press conferences now, because they are major news events. They shouldn't be used as PR campaigns for a department, for a mayor, for a governor, for any of the above. they didn't do great. For the FBI?

Yeah, or the FBI. Yeah, the FBI did this too recently. And I called it out on my radio show, Megan. It was like, it was a, you know, we're so great. We're doing amazing work. You don't need to tell us. It was a little uncomfortable. It was weird.

It was weird. It needs to stop. And I think that this, unfortunately, maybe is a byproduct also of like the social media era where people, you know, want to be able to take a bow publicly. But there's no need for what we saw in Providence, Rhode Island here. this was way too congratulatory. I mean, people were shot, people were killed, and they didn't get this guy, really. I mean, he killed himself. So they need to slow their role a little bit and focus on good police work next time. And also don't tell us to avoid misinformation online.

That has a very Orwellian tone to it. Like, you've got to be careful about all the misinformation. No, we don't. Go find the shooter. No, we were getting a lecture to. Even last night, Christina Pasha, the Paxon, who is the president of Brown University, was out there sending an email to people being like, you know, it was just very unfortunate, the misinformation that went around about, you know, potential people involved in this when looking at their social media. And it was like she was kind of over the top in her chastising. It was like, you know what?

You know what actually solved the case? Social media solved the case. Some guy who saw the suspect was posting what he saw to Reddit. And like in great detail. and the redditors encouraged him to go to the police, which he then did. And this guy proved to be, it looks like, we believe, the critical force that led to this guy's identification and, not arrest, but murder. I mean, suicide.

From what I understand, Megan, and there's still details coming in, but it seems that this guy who committed this, you know, mass murder and suicide, took some security steps as well to make this more difficult. And I think that with law enforcement, they have some incredible. credible tools, again, tools that I actually used in a prior life myself, things like people will say, well, why can't they just ping his cell phone? Well, they can, but this guy apparently didn't take his cell phone with him for the shootings. You know, why can't they? Or had, or they're saying he may have had foreign SIM cards. Yeah, or he changed out his SIM card. But I mean,

he didn't, he didn't bring like his, this is who I am, this is my name, cell phone with me. Even if you ping phones, you're pinging in an area. So there could, and then a place like Brown University, there's going to be, I don't know, a couple thousand people that are probably pinging off that tower so it can whittle things down, but it doesn't mean that you have the so-called smoking gun right away. This guy took some steps. I mean, it seems like this is some kind of personal grudge slash psychosis, but you know, we'll find out more. Clearly the, I think it's more than a coincidence that he studied with this guy at a Portuguese university. I don't think that's a leap, so he knew that guy. But I think that,

enforcement here got caught flat footed because the initial things that they go to in this situation they right away they go to the surveillance footage right away they go to cell phones if somebody is good enough at at covering their tracks on those fronts then it's old-fashioned police work and reddit might move a lot faster on that than some of these cops can that's just the truth yeah here's here's what we know and just a word of caution to the audience it's not totally clear how it all went down, not surprisingly, given the law enforcement we're dealing with, but we're gleaning the following. This actually does come from the supporting arrest affidavit that there was a tip received on Tuesday, December 16th, does not give a date for when the Reddit

post was put up on Reddit. But three days after the deadly shooting at Brown, officers received an anonymous tip that stuck out from a flood of information. It directed the authorities to a post on read it. Quote, I'm being dead serious. The police need to look into a gray Nissan with Florida plates, possibly a rental. That was the car he was driving. It was parked in front of the little shack behind the Rhode Island Historical Society on the Cookside Street. So Cook Street side. I know because he used his key fob to open the car, approached it, and then something prompted him to back away. When he backed away, he relocked the car. I found that odd. So when he circled the block, I approached the car. And that is when I saw the Florida plates. He was parked in the

section between the gate of the Rhode Island Historical Society and the corner of Cook and George Street. Now, based on that post, the police say they expanded their video search, you know, looking at people's cameras to the Rhode Island Historical Society area. Investigators located a gray slash blue Nissan sedan. Police then released still images of the then unknown person. later identified as John, who interacted with the suspect at approximately 2.16 p.m. on December 13th. And then here's another one. Wednesday, December 17th. The Reddit poster approached the cops on the street near Brown. And by the way, it looks like they did not go find John after he posted that tip. Like, I'm not sure what they did, to be honest with you. After they saw that

Reddit tip, they're kind of suggesting that they took it seriously. Okay. Then they say a day after the Reddit post was made, the writer approached law enforcement officials and told them about his encounter with a suspicious man in Brown University's Barris and Holly building. The tipster whom the police referred to only as John said he had encountered the suspect inside a bathroom on the ground floor of the building between 1.45 p.m. and 2 p.m. around two hours before the first shots were reported. John said the suspect's clothing was inappropriate for the weather and they had made eye contact. John told the police he followed the man after he left the building to a Nissan vehicle with a Florida plate, but instead of entering the vehicle, the suspect started walking around

the block with John behind him. So this sounds like the same person. John said it was like a game of cat and mouse. At one point, the two men spoke. According to the affidavit, John asked the suspect, your car's back there. Why are you circling the block? To which the suspect responded, why are you harassing me? John went his own way soon after that. When the police showed John images of the suspect's car from safety cameras, he said that might be it. And here's the last one, buck, per the affidavit, Monday, sorry, morning of Wednesday, December 17th, a separate university employee. A Brown University faculty member had also described a suspicious vehicle in the same neighborhood, a gray sedan with Florida plates on Thursday, December

11th at 9.15 a.m. It did not take long for investigators to find that the car was from an Alamo rental location in downtown Boston and from the rental agreement they got a name, Claudio Manuel Nevis Valente. So that's how they caught him. There were things happening on the Boston Entune around the MIT professor, but it was this Reddit guy. It seems like it was this Reddit, this guy who posted on Reddit named John, who Jesse Waters had a guest last night was reporting, they believe is a former Brown student who is now homeless, unconfirmed, but that was reported both online and on Fox last night. Well, yeah, there's crowdsourcing has been around for a while, and I think it's getting more and

more sophisticated because keep in mind the tools that are available to the general now when you start adding in AI. I use AI now, this as a side note, all the time, and I'm amazed at what it can do. I was putting together a guns... Which one do you use? Oh, I use GROC exclusively. I'm a GROC. I'm a GROC guy. So, yeah, I'm an investor in GROC. I love GROC. So anyway, I actually was putting together a gun safe yesterday, and I was able to just take a photo of the safe from a distance and say, how do I do all these things and how do I program everything? And it's better than any manual. I mean, it's incredible what it can do. I bring this up in the context of this investigation because

now you can work with pretty sophisticated tools if you have still images, if you have basic geolocation data. I mean, you can start to do some high level, certainly much more high level than what have even been capable by law enforcement 10, 15 years ago. So this is catching up really quickly, and this is, I think, changing the world all around us in a whole range of ways. But the ability now to, I mean, think about this, how far are we from facial recognition being some... Now, I know this guy, I think his face was covered, but just... They're already using that in some police departments across the country. Oh, and police departments, they are.

I mean, people being able to run programs at home. You know, this is, I mean, the tech is getting so widespread that what we use. used to think of as a law enforcement exclusive tool, I think, is going to be something that you're seeing in the hands of these online sleuths. And look, I mean, now this is a whole other discussion, but there was a whole effort, as we all know, online. The FBI not only had 30% of them weaponized against, under Biden, against the J6 protesters, but there was a big online effort to track all those people down too. So the public has become mobilized in a whole range of ways to be able to help law enforcement for good and for ill, depending on the situation. But that's what's going on.

It's very creepy. We had somebody on the show. She had written a book on this, and she was talking about how they've got these glasses already, not available for purchase yet, but these glasses that you could put on and you could walk into a bar. And let's say I see you, but I don't know you at this point. And I go over and I try to hit on you, Buck Sexton, and you're like, get out of here, old lady, I'm a happily married man. But now I'm like, I'm pissed. Who is that cocky former CIA type? I'm going to get him. And I tap my glasses. And based on facial recognition, not only do they tell me, it's Buck Sexton. They tell me where you live. They tell me where you went to school. They tell me all this identifying personal information about you, which is just a very effed up way to

live. Privacy is essentially going to be a thing of the past. I mean, we already have microphones that we, active microphones that we carry all throughout our homes all the time. I mean, yes, you and I, Megan, make a living by doing media. So there's cameras and, you know, high-end audio equipment in certain rooms. But people are carrying around open mics all the time. We've all had this thing of you start talking about some subject and then you get an ad about it on your phone serve to you and you're on Google or whatever it is. This is real. this is all around us. And as the technology is going to,

this is a bit like Moore's Law with computing power. And the technology that you have access to from AI is going to continue to get more and more sophisticated such that you're going to have people who, the second that they release anything about a major incident of public, whether it's a mass shooting or any major incident of public interest,

the entire internet is couldn't be able to use these different. Now, I understand, there's problems with this too. How do you verify? Who do you trust? how do you know, but the data and the access to analysis of that data that everyone's going to have is, we are in a brave new world that is changing. And the fact, I mean, you just read that whole Reddit thread. I mean, that was more sophisticated than most of the police reports that I used to read

when I was in the intel division. I mean, that was more detailed. It was more. This guy, if this really is a homeless guy, I mean, this is a hero. This guy, John is a hero. He posted something this morning saying, I'm not going to be posting really anything else. I might, he said, I might like up comments, like positive comments, things that I like online, but that's all I'm going to do. But we got to know more about John. I wanted to mention

something about, you mentioned the cameras, which will be, you know, which we're kind of used to being everywhere. That was a problem in this case. Why weren't they everywhere inside of this building? This was a big bone of contention last night. And there was a kind of suggestion by the officials, there were some cameras inside the building where the shooting took place at Brown University, but that whatever cameras there were did not capture what happened in this classroom or the guy's ingress or egress from the building. Obviously, that's true. Otherwise, they would have shown us his pictures on day one. So then there was a question about why. Why didn't we have more cameras? Then there was a question about whether many of them had

been turned off at the behest of the pro-Palestinian activists on campus, of which there are many at Brown University. And there's been more and more reporting that that actually did happen. Well, there was an exchange with a reporter and Christina Hulpaxson, again, she's the president of Brown, about the lack of video to help solve this murder and listen to this exchange, SOP 5. Yeah. Dan. President Paxton, Dan J. from NBC 10. I want to go back to the question I asked you Saturday night when I first

arrived on the scene. There were no cameras in this building, and law enforcement, some that are standing up behind you, have said if Brown had cameras in that part of the bill, we would have gotten this guy. And it may have stopped the swirling action. Can you answer that question for me? Well, I don't think we have said the locations of cameras at at Brown. We have 12 cameras in not really because why would they take it from a rental car agency? We have 1,200 cameras at Brown. But not in that building. We have some in that building. It's a large complex. And I think what you would see is the video evidence in this case, from my perspective, I'm not a law enforcement agent, has been incredibly helpful. The moving of the person around the neighborhood, those video images, they help crack this case.

So I think video was important. Video played a big role in this case, the neighbor's video, the rental car video, but not the video from the building that he walked in freely both before when he got in the confrontation, and when he came back in, decided to kill people. You didn't have cameras in that building. Just say it so we can give this over it. And my next question is, will you put the cameras in the building? Will you be more cameras in that building? You know, I think we need to look back. We'll look at everything. that is done that I do not think a lack of cameras in that building, it had anything to do with what happened now. No one suggests it caused it, although who knows, maybe he did scope out what areas didn't

have cameras beforehand, but it led, I mean, I'm sorry, I'm not blaming the MIT professor's murder on her, but it did indirectly lead to another life being caused, because if we had had that guy on camera, who knows how quickly they could have caught him buck? And by the way, that reporter's name is Dan, Jenny from NBC10. Good for you, Dan. Yeah, well, he's putting Janet Reno in a tough spot up there or whatever it is from Brown University. She, there's no good answer for what it is that is being asked, because clearly they had not really thought through this as a meaningful security measure for this facility. And a place like Brown University, I mean, you know this, Megan. I've been putting this out on radio for a few days. I had a family member, an aunt who went there.

It is the most left-wing Ivy League school, and it is among the most left-wing of all schools. It just has always had that reputation. They don't get grades there. Now, what does that have to do with this investigation, right? I'm not just taking cheap shots at the communists. Well, maybe I'm taking cheap shots at the communist, but what it has to do with the security procedures here

is that this is a place that generally lives in a fantasy land of bad things don't. happen, we'll never going to have to really deal with law enforcement. We don't have to think about, you know, the worst thing that Brown University thinks they're going to have to deal with, in a day-to-day sense, is somebody using the wrong preferred pronouns. Like, this is not a place that is taking seriously the security, the physical safety and security of its students in a way that I think it should. I mean, just based on the fact that they don't even have good answers here for, yeah, why do you not have a camera? Now, they could say it's an old building, and we got cameras

in a lot of places. All right, but, you know, who's in charge of security on this campus? I mean, who's actually making sure that people are safe? And also, where was the armed response to this as well? This guy was able to get out of there very easily, very quickly. I also like to point out to everyone, he would know that Brown completely bans anybody from being able to conceal carry on that campus. So this guy who, now it seems pretty clear, I think, right? It's like a planned out grudge, mares. shooter. I mean, he shot a whole lot of people, so I'm sure there's just some level of psychosis that's tied into this, but it seems like he was, you know, pissed off at people for some reason or a number of

people. But he would know that the Brown University Police, I'm sure there's a whole thing about how we can't have too many armed cops, you know, that scares people, police having weapons is frightening. We're going to have like violence interrupters first and foremost. We had some of this at my school, hammers, by the way. You know, it's like, oh, if you call it, we don't want the cops to actually arrive for anything, even if there's a huge fight and people are getting stabbed because people might get pepper sprayed and there could be, you know, diversity could suffer depending on the situation.

There's all kinds of things, right? Yeah. No, that police, sorry, the mayor of Providence who just embarrassed himself throughout this process, even with the shooter still on the loose less than 48 hours after 11 kids were shot at Brown University was saying this. Okay, this is hours before the MIT professor would be shot dead in his apartment vestibule. Listen to Sot two.

This is Monday on CNN. Explain this notion that appears to be in conflict. There's a killer on the loose and a manhunt underway. So how can that be the case when you say there is, why are you confident there is no threat to public safety? The call came in for the shooting. 405 p.m. on Saturday. It's Monday morning, 10 a.m. Eastern, and there has not been a single, credible, or specific threat that we've received since that time. And so just because of those facts,

that's why we believe it is safe and appropriate for residents in Providence to be sending kids to school today, and to be out in the community. There has been no follow-up threat. Oh, my God. He literally said there's been, there is no threat to public safety on Saturday, Saturday after the shooting. He said, people may want to cancel their plans, but I don't feel it's necessary. And we haven't received any additional credible information that there's an ongoing threat.

The students' bodies were barely cold at that point. And he's saying there's no on. That is a liberal mania on how crime is just not a thing. You're immediately safe because the shooting event is over. Go about your lives, folks who live in Providence. Oh, and vote for me. Oh, of course. Well, I think he took the wrong lesson from the mayor in Jaws,

who's like, the beaches will be open this weekend. It's like, well, there's still a shark out. there. So maybe think a little harder about that one. I love that mayor. Yeah. I mean, Jaws is the best. That thing really holds up. But this guy, look, there was a lot of incompetence here. This is something to be fair. When you're dealing with these smaller, whether it's a law enforcement, first of all, the Brown University administration, I don't think that they could figure out how to open a paper bag. I mean, I just feel this is, these institutions have been so absolutely top to bottom

overtaken by the worst kinds of mediocrity and delusional thinking. And I mean, from the administrative side, never mind the academics and the students. So that's not a surprise at all. And a place like the Providence Rhode Island Police Department, you know, I mean, the guy who's the chief of police also, I just know if you're going to be doing a press conference, it was not that easy to understand him, which

is something that I don't think. He's been here for 30 years. Yeah, what's up with that? Hello. I don't know. You know, you can't kind of figure it out a little more. I feel like we're allowed to at some point say, you know, if you're going to be in that public-facing role, you shouldn't, you shouldn't, you should want to not sound like you got here a year ago.

And it shouldn't be so hard for us to understand. I mean, it's a public safety issue. I mean, you're sitting here. There's a reason they have people that are doing all the sign language and stuff. It's so everybody can understand. And I found myself with the Providence Chief of Police going, wait, what are you? What was that, he said? And that's just not a good...

At least they got rid of the crazy female signer who was just so obnoxious and desperate to call attention to herself. The guy who was there yesterday, the bald man was better... Yeah, no, the female sign lady who was like doing crazy, like interpretive dances. Over here.

Look at me. I'm a star as my big moment. She reminded me of that one sign language lady who turned out to be fake. Remember, she wasn't actually signed... I kind of miss her, to be honest. It was pretty amazing. But I hear you.

Like, if we're being serious here, yeah. Of course. It's best not to have her doing all the stuff. It's a distraction. Okay. I got to fire through a few more things while we're together because we have a shorter show today. Two nights ago, President Trump giving remarks from the White House on his, what he says is our hot. Our country's hot again. It's hot. mentioning the economy. Inflation indeed has gone down. He got a very favorable report yesterday morning, way better than analysts had expected and announcing that he was going to provide checks worth $1,700.76 is the number to our military personnel. It turned out that that was some sort of a housing voucher that people

got. But in any event, he chipped almost $2,000 off of bills they owed. And this is where Jake Tapper on CNN went with it. Okay? I just happened to be in the very fortunate position of seeing this. And I couldn't believe what I was watching, but here it is in SOT 9 yesterday. That kind of manic delivery was very, very disturbing, very pressure, very pressurized speech. And as the address went on, his, the cadence of his remarks became quicker. And we've never seen the president, you know, like that. He seemed almost frantic and it was disturbing to watch. Earlier today, and this is not the first time this has happened,

And the president appeared to be struggling to keep his eyes open during a public White House event in the Oval Office earlier today. If that worries you, what's your take on that? He's done this several times now in the last few weeks. He's fallen asleep in a crowded Oval Office, and he's also fallen asleep at cabinet meetings. And that's what's called increased daytime somnolence. Sometimes people with sleep apnea, people who wake up many times during the night and don't get restorative sleep have that. He has the chronic bruise. He had swollen ankles. He's had these mysterious scan.

I think all of this raises considered, you know, realistic concerns about the health of the president. And it would be great if the White House was a little bit more forthcoming about that. You know, I can't be the only person who had concerns after watching him last night. You weren't. Oh, Tapper. Oh, that's awesome. Oh, man. Can you believe?

Look, I honestly, there's a part of me that both I find I find Jake at CNN both deeply amusing and at this point a little bit sad. He is reminiscent as the serious journalist just asking questions of the imperial Japanese soldiers found after World War II had ended. I think one guy lasted 29 years in the jungles of the Philippines, ignoring the lead. and refusing to accept that the war was over. And then finally someone showed up who had been his commanding officer. I think he was willing to put down his arms. Like, Jake is the lost imperial Japanese soldier of CNN. Like, he's still keeping this whole thing going.

Like, I'm just here doing the journalism. It's like we all know what CNN is, buddy. Just like I did. Just like I've been doing. I've done this for every president. Speaking truth. It's so transparent. Oh, man.

Speaking truth of power. It's hilarious. Right. This is also the guy who has, as you well know, by the way. And look, look what they're picking up on Buck. He spoke fast. Right now. That one time, he spoke fast.

So he must have some sort of a brain disorder. This is so pathetic and it's so obvious. Like, at least, you'd love to give him points for at least being clever. You can't. It's just so on the nose. Nobody, like, I guess this is left as sweet nothings that he thinks his audience wants now. And he thinks he's got the credibility to do it since he wrote the book. He literally wrote the book, Buck, on Joe Biden's poor mental health.

I have to give you credit, actually. I don't know we've addressed this on your show again, but I came on before you interviewed Jake, and I was like, Megan, you know, you're just, you're very, like, cordial and polite and friendly person, and you were just like, I don't think that that's going to mean with Jake's book that he's not going to, and I watched that,

I watched your Jake interview, and it was really good. So you did not let him get away. You did not let him get away with a nonsense. I mean, that's a knock on me sometimes. people would be like, oh, you're too polite, you're too nice. And I'm like, well, until I get pissed off. Well, it's hard when you have people on who you, you know, have some sort of a friendly relationship with. But like that was just such an egregious, such an egregious claim.

You were totally fair. It was about the subject matter. It wasn't personal. You were totally fair to him. And the whole thing was preposterous. And you're just like, okay, I'm going to let you make the case. This isn't preposterous what you're doing, but it was preposterous. And we all saw that.

And the idea that somehow they've like cleansed themselves at CNN or the Democrats of this, unbelievable stain on their integrity, which I don't think we'll ever go away, that we all knew Biden had dementia. I mean, we, we felt bad because it was such a frequent topic on our show on radio. You couldn't ignore it. You couldn't not see it. It was the most obvious thing in the world. And then they're going to tell us, oh, you know what? We figured it out after that debate when it was clear that Biden couldn't run really anymore. And now they want to, look, I think at some level two, though, there's a bit of trolling here.

Because they're like, well, if you did this to us, like, if you knocked our guy out because he had dementia, we're going to do the same to you. The problem is Trump doesn't have dementia. That's the problem. Trump's talking fast. He's talking fast. Oh, oh, my guess. Stop the presses. Extra, extra.

All right, let's keep going. There's more. Scott Bessent was at a D.C. restaurant and got harassed by Code Pink activists. My real question here is, how did they know he was going to be at this restaurant? It's SOT 6. Take a look at this horrible thing. We have a special guest here, and we want to make a toast to the Secretary of Treasury, Scott Vesson. So let's give it up for the man who is eating in peace as people starve across the world based on his sanctions, which are economic warfare.

Of course you're going to boo this. It's the truth. He oversees the death of 600,000 people. to sanctions annually. And this president, let's cheer to the Monroe Doctrine. Trump today says that Venezuelan

oil. And you have no idea how how important you are. Ignorant, you are responsible for the death of 600,000 people annually because of sanctions. How many people are going to die because of the blood is on

your hand? The blood is on your hand. You should be ashamed. It goes on and on and on because they want to harass the poor man while he's just having dinner, minding his own business, not bothering anybody in the corner. This is like the devolution of, like, good and decency, like goodness and decency when it comes to our societal behavior, and it does matter. Well, you're nailing it there. Code Pink is the Westboro Baptist Church of anti-war, you know, activists. They're just, thank you. are disgusting. Right. That's so good. There we go. There are vile morons. Anybody who's a part of Code Pink

is somebody you don't want to be around and you should not take seriously. I'd also note that they generally, I know people can find, they've probably yelled some things at Pelosi, but they overwhelmingly find that during Republican administrations, no matter what, you know, Trump is the guy who's like, I'm not starting any new wars. We're not, you know, we're not overthrowing Gaddafi in Libya. Like, we're not doing this stuff. And yet Code Pink is always so active during Republican administrations, we know that they're idiots. They do nothing other than get attention for themselves. I think the people who are part of Code Pink honestly have undiagnosed anxiety or other disorders. Like I think it's a mental health issue to be a member of Code Pink and to do this

kind of a thing. I would just say, I'm curious, Megan, because this is so important to me that it is the defenders of civilization in this situation who are the restaurant staff and an owner-manager. it's up to them to say you're now trespass, get out of here, we're calling the police, and to make their patron, and to make their patron feel, in this case got best. And let me say this, it's bipartisan for me. If a bunch of Republicans act like a bunch of jerks, which this doesn't happen, but I'm just saying theoretically, if a bunch of Republicans started harassing a Democrat official like this in a restaurant, I would say the same thing, which is that we can't have civilized society

if people can't have a dinner, you know, if an American can't have dinner, in the quiet of, of the corner of a restaurant with whoever, his wife or his, you know, friends' family, we've lost something really essential as a society. So I hope that the restaurant stood up for them. I remember Ted Cruz during... By the way, though, like, why the Treasury Secretary? Like, if you're going to do this to anybody, Trump, Hegseth, I don't know, but, like, why the Treasury Secretary?

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slash Megan today to get started. There is a Michigan State Senator by the name of Mallory McMorrow, and she's running for U.S. Senate. And here is what she had to say at a local town hall this week, SOT 7. So I'm a Notre Dame grad, and Amy Coney-Barrid coming out of my university makes me on a personal level. I talked to somebody yesterday who said, big, sorry. saw her with Brett Kavanaugh at a tailgate last weekend.

And I was like, I would not be able to control myself. That would be bad. But there would be fears for women people's faces. Nice. So she would like to be a U.S. Senator. Just in case you may have forgotten this buck, but you're going to remember it when I show it to you. She is the, again, Michigan State Representative,

senator, who with my note from my team reads, Lizard tongue, who spoke at the, the Democratic National Convention and had a very bad case of dry mouth, remember with the tongue? I did not remember. I had not seen this, actually. This is amazing. We're showing a 41 second. Look, so many times with the tongue, it keeps coming way out of the mouth to try to find some saliva. So she's super nervous just to give a speech in front of a bunch of party faithful people who are going to love everything she says, but she's a tough guy. She's a super tough guy, but she sees Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh.

If she saw them in public, she'd be throwing bottles of beer at them. Okay. Sure. Yeah. Sure, Mallory. That's also criminal. I mean, it's assault. You can't do that.

If you do that, you should be arrested and you should be prosecuted, right? This is, this isn't free speech. I mean, she's openly, at least bragging about how she would break the law because she disagrees with Supreme Court justices, too. I mean, that's, that's particularly agreed. Look, the left, there are some things that are just broadly true. And they really can't be said enough. And I think sometimes people are concerned about saying it. One of them is, you're looking at your background? Yeah, sorry, my back. I just, I don't know what happened here. It's like I offended the gods. My background just changed. There are a couple things. One is that the Democrat Party,

if you're going to be a criminal, if you're going to be a felon, it's the Democrat Party. that is your home. I think if you're going to replace religion, spirituality, a sense of something more important than the here and now with politics, you're also a Democrat, and that leads to a whole lot of mental illness infused into one's politics and policies. And this is why you see the behaviors that you do. This is why you have people who would not be violent at all. Like, does anyone think that, you know, whatever her name is? I mean, I'm partial to redheads because I'm married one. But this redhead is doing, she's doing the team injustice.

You know, this is not good for team redhead. Lizard tongue. You know, yeah. Lizard tongue. You know, really. I mean, yeah. You don't have to drink more water. I'm not sure what it is, but it's between you and your doctor.

Probably its behavior like that, like we just saw, in addition to just their lackluster messaging and policies and what we're going to talk about in a minute, like the DEI and its impact on actual Americans that the Dems have been pushing. that led to this situation, as outlined by CNN's Harry Enten. Watch this, SOT 7B from Thursday. Democrats in the minds of the American public are lower than the Dead Sea. The lowest ever. Look at this. Overall, they are 55 points underwater.

Their approval rating is south of 20%. It's even worse when you look at independence. Look at this. Negative 61 points. That means that their approval rating is 61 points lower than their disapproval rating Quinnipiac has been polling this question for the better part of the 21st century. They have never found Democrats, at least those in Congress, in worse shape than they are right now.

Worst ever, Buck Sexton. So I know the conventional wisdom is the Dems are going to win the midterms, and I actually also believe that. But it's not totally lost. I mean, there is more than ample weakness on the Dems side to exploit between. between now and November. Yes, I'm concerned because when you look at what's really motivating people right now, so there's a little bit of a challenge here with, and I actually said this to the president when I saw him some months back, maybe it was during the summer, I said, sir, my complaint for you, if I could have a complaint, is that you secured the border so quickly that now

that's baked in and everyone just sort of assumes like, oh, okay, so we have a secure border now, right? I mean, it's it's a little bit of what have you done for me lately thinking on this because we're not talking about that. The deportations, which is the, the harder issue to handle and also the one where there could be more downside. That, I think, is something that's going to continue to be playing out in front of cameras and there's more challenge with that. Affordability. We're going to hear that word, right? So the immigration thing, we've got a big win, but I don't think that's going to really mobilize people in the midterms. It's going to be all about how expensive is housing, how expensive is food, and what do people feel like about their health care and their

health care premiums? And the Republicans, you know, it's their economy, right? This is the challenge you run into with, yeah, Biden had the worst inflation in 40 years. But the truth is, it's Trump's, it's his show now, and it's Scott Besson's show, and they're going to be held responsible one way or another for what's going on. Well, I think that's what Trump was doing on Wednesday night, trying to get out there and rejigger the messaging on it. I want to keep going. I mentioned it.

Did you think that was a good, that was a good, though, a good speech? I just, I was a little, I thought it wasn't really, it was like he was. No, it did nothing for me. It came across like he was frustrated with people who are frustrated with the prices. And I'm like, Trump, you are so much better on the economy than these lunatics. I know. And I also just felt like. it was so obvious. Like, again, try to make it more clever that you're not just giving a campaign

rally before people go home for Christmas. You know, it's like, I don't know, you got, you got to be careful. You got, you just got to be careful about telling them everything's great and the tariffs are wonderful and, you know, inflation's no longer a problem. At this time of year in particular, when people, everyone feels stretched, you know, where he did the speech, what, 10 days before Christmas, less than, everybody has overspent. They've probably gone out of their budget because they love their kids and everybody wants to give their kids a magical Christmas and so on and Hanukkah, all of it. So you've had holiday parties that you couldn't afford to throw and you went to ones where you, whatever. So it's not a great time to be telling everybody it's all great. I think honesty

is better, but you know, Trump is the quintessential marketing guy. He would never resort to just like cold, hard honesty. Like it hurts and I know it hurts, but I swear that part where it gets better is coming soon. There's one part of it that that Trump, Trump, Trump keeps saying things like it's a fill in the blank hoax, and I know what he is saying. He's, and then this, by the way, this is with the Epstein files. This is with affordability. What he's saying is the Democrat narrative on this is a, like that this is my fault or that I'm hiding or whatever, that they're lying to you. I want him to go back to fake news.

That's a way better shorthand because when he says the affordability, which he's, you know, they've been running with this constantly at MS now. by the way you know i watch morning joe sometimes for fun for amusement it's ms now um but but he he says affordability is a hoax megan and people go no that's not a hoax he doesn't mean that the prices aren't high and this isn't a challenge he means democrats saying that his tariffs or his choices or whatever have caused this is the hoax and i just think that's him again people think in soundbites as you know people vote based on soundbites and i think we need to clean that up a little bit i have a shocking story to tell you about joe scarborough oh he and I actually had a nice moment this week. I went to the Mediaite party for 2025. It's where

this website that writes about, you know, media clips and media personalities invites a bunch of people in the media to come to this party and sort of, it's the one time of year where you cross paths with people who you may not be able to stand, people you've been criticizing, people have been ripping you. And it's kind of like detente for a night. And it's nice. I like it. And believe it or not, Joe Scarborough came over to me. And I was like, oh, God, I don't know where this is going. It could go any number of places. And he said something really sweet about Mark Halperin, who is his friend. And it was something to the effect of, thanks for helping Mark get back on his feet. And I was like, I love Mark Halperin, you know, thanks for saying that.

and it was sincere and he was like genuinely warm and I was like you know what just a good reminder as we go into the holidays that these people who we all rip on and who rip on us were all human we're in the same game we have plenty of fodder to pick back up with tomorrow but I don't know it was it kind of restored my faith in humanity that like that was sweet and he knows I've ripped on him endlessly but he made a point of putting that to the side because he cares about his friend and I do too. So it was a nice moment. Well, I'm sure, honestly, if I, if I were able to don my zip sweater and join Joe out on the croquet field or something for a few minutes, I think we would have a great time at the country club together. I think we would get along

famously. We're two guys with side swoop hair part. He probably just like me had the same hair when he was like five years old, never changed it. You know, we've both gone through 20 pairs of top siders over our lives, lots of boat shoes. even though we don't both that much. I mean, Joe and I probably have a lot in common. But I would say one thing, you brought up Mark Halpern. It's funny because we've played a lot of his clips on radio for his analysis to just sort of work his insights into the conversation.

And if I may say so, this is, and not just because I'm in the Christmas spirit, and I'm basically on Christmas break other than doing your show, you have a great eye for talent, Megan, and no real talent. Now, of course, you are the first person to ever put. put me on in prime time at Fox News when you had three plus million viewers in the 9 p.m. It didn't take much to see you, Foxcom. It did not. I wish I could say that was my genius, but it was very obvious. Hey, your first. Number one, never, you never forget, never forget first prime time host. And no, apparently you do, you do, because I have a, I have a, I have a, I reason to

believe Ben Shapiro is not as grateful as you are. I was going to say, you have, that is the one thing that for me, I never, and I'm sure you're the same way, because I at a, at a lesser level, have been able to also now, because I've been doing this for 15 years, help people out. I never require a thank you, and I never require payback. But people who go in the opposite direction when I've helped them, Megan, I've had people who want to come on and, like, sell their book on my show, and I'm like, you unfollowed me on Twitter. What are you doing? Yeah. Oh, my God, Buck. If I could tell you, like, my basic rule is if you're going to be my so-called friend and keep tagging me on Twitter with posts attacking me, like I'll let you get away with one, maybe two. You start doing it

regularly and I unfollow you. Oh, dead to me. Why would I keep you in my timeline if you just, like you're supposed to be my friend? And there's this one particular person who I did this with, who's now out there railing, crying in his soup every day about how I unfollowed him. Guess why? You kept tagging me on attacks against me. Why would I continue to follow you? It's just, it's so pathetic. And when it's a so-called friend or somebody who you've helped, yeah, it's particularly galling. Zero loyalty. Yeah, and we all know. It's funny, too, in the business, I think everybody knows the people who are stand up and who for their people will. I have a standing rule on radio and I tell the audiences because I want them to be fully informed of this. And I'll say, because sometimes they'll send in a clip up somebody. And even people, as you know, I'm sure you have friends like this too, who have gone fully, and I would say even maybe psychotically anti-Trump, but they're friends of mine or I've known them for years or I've worked with them in the past. And I will not hit a friend of mine. on the air because if I, if I, you know, if I am going to criticize somebody in what we do,

if I see them in person, I'm going to stand behind what I said and be like, yeah, you deserve that, you know. I'm not going to see them in person and be like, hey, let's go for a drink. We're great friends. I take a hit at you. And so to keep everything on the up and up, I don't hit my friends publicly. And I note very clearly who does because if they'll do it to anyone, they'll do it to you. It's also a bit like a good rule.

By the way, this is a rule for everybody, not just for people like you and me who work in media. people that do this thing of sharing publicly private text messages when they get into a spat with somebody, dead to me. Yep. Dead to me forever. Never again. Never again.

No, honestly, like, there are some people who are coming for me right now who I could totally humiliate with their prior texts, but I won't. I won't because I agree with you. That's just bad form. What's meant to be a private text should stay a private text. It's like, come on, grow up. But yeah, no, it's very annoying. And it's just part of our life.

Now, we will say this. Government officials are different. Like, I'm rooting for everybody in Trump's government. I am. Like, I love cash. I love Dan. But they have to get ripped on every once in all because they're in, you know, these public positions. So that's a little more complicated. But we have to do it. If we don't do it, then we're Jake Tapper. Then we're MSNBC. We're Rachel Maddow. Right. So it's like it gets trickier. And hopefully those guys are all big boys who understand that's the nature of our business. And in my experience, they all have been very fine with that. They understand it. Yes, no, I think that is, again, there's, there's criticizing the roles that some, or rather the actions that somebody takes in a role and how their decision making has gone in that context. And then there's going after somebody sort of personally are trying to humiliate them. And I think that you do have an obligation when somebody has the kind of power, I mean, look, Pete Higgs-Sass is a friend of mine, right? It's a friend of yours. Pete is the Secretary of War and they're blowing up boats full of people. Now, I am not opposed to their rationale for this, but I'm just saying, that's a lot of power to have, right? So if somebody's doing, if you think somebody has erred in their decision making and they have the power of life and death over other human beings, I'm just using this as an example, you know, you have to hold that to account at some level, right?

And, and, you know, if let's say, if they blew up the wrong boat, I'd have to say, guys, this is a really big problem, right? I couldn't just say, oh, you know, stuff happens. Yeah, or you're a shill. You know, you're a shill, so you can't become a shill. Okay, I want to keep going, because I really do want to get to this. It was published in Compact Magazine on Monday. It's almost 9,000 words in length. It's entitled The Lost Generation, and it's by Los Angeles-based writer Jacob Savage. He tried to publish it in the Atlantic, but they demanded changes to it. So he said, no. He said they were interested, but then they came back and were like, it has to only be about you and your experience in Hollywood. You could do some stats or whatever. They didn't want him. him to make it more broadly about the plight of white men. Like, it can just be a personal story. That's it. Beyond that, no. So he said no, and he published it in contact. And it's devastating. And what the heart of it is is that white men have been utterly devastated, especially millennial white men by DEI, that this is not just some term, as J.D. Vance pointed out the other day that means extra, you know, sensitivity sessions on implicit bias at your workplace that you

roll your eyes at. No, a generation of white men have had their career prospects obliterated, not to mention their self-worth, because of this pernicious ideology that was accepted at every level of society, from schools to colleges to sports, to corporate America, Hollywood media, you name it, and they go through, yes, this writer, Jacobs experience as trying to get a job in Hollywood, but also that of multiple other men who, here's one that that jumped out of me. His name is Ethan, and he's an Ivy League educated social scientist. He couldn't get a job in academia because of DEI. He was a finalist for a 10-year track position five times, flown out again and again for interviews and meet and greets and departmental dinners, always the brides

made never the bride. At a certain point, he began to see himself the way this search committees did. Listen this, Buck. Other identifiers or other things I valued about myself have receded. Being a white man, meanwhile, moved into the foreground in a way that I didn't expect. He was taught to loathe it. He was taught to see it as something for which he needed to apologize or feel bad about, which is disgusting. And now the roosters are coming home to roost. The chickens are coming home to Roost with the real-life toll of this hideous ideology becoming more public. Well, Megan, I'm a white male millennial, actually. I qualify as somebody in this in this cohort. And so this is very personal for me. This is very personal for a lot of my friends, for my

brothers who were close to my age. We saw this. We dealt with this. And people need to speak about this. You have to remove a lot of the enforced dogma and doctrine, and you have to sort of brush away the nonsense from your mind on this. This was just explicit discrimination. I mean, this was actually, and there's been this thing for a while, well, they'll say reverse discrimination, or oh, it's so hard to be a white man or whatever. No, it's not so hard to be a white man. If you're a boomer who's already got, you know, enough stock options to retire, is working on the Aspen Skihaus, or the equivalent in academia, you're already a tenured professor at Harvard. You've already had your career.

They fed white millennial men's futures into the wood chipper, and they felt righteous doing it. And we all saw it, and we were all being told, sorry, we have to, we were like the human sacrifice in order to atone for America's history of racism. But it wasn't even just racism. It was, they were doing this to benefit Latinos, and they were doing this for Native Americans, and they were doing this for women in fields, you know, STEM, where there weren't enough women, and they were doing this in all these different contexts. You sit here and you say, how can it be moral to tell somebody, I was going to hire you,

you're the best person for the job, but you're white and you're a guy. So no, this happened, and one of the ways that you knew that it was immoral, by the way, this is how I, my first realization, I was in. in like eighth grade, but my first realization, like, I'm a conservative or I'm a Republican, was around this issue. And honestly, it had to do with the double standards that I saw playing out over and over again through institutions for behavior, for college admissions, and then later on for jobs. I mean, what year would that have been, Buck, just to give me an idea of where we are? I mean, I graduated college in 2004. So I'm, I would have been old, you know, I'm at the very

oldest edge of millennials, but my brother is five years younger than me, for example. He went to Georgetown. And I mean, it was just known on campuses during the hiring. And remember, this is for people, your early trajectory can make a huge difference, not just in your career, but also your earning potential, your ability to build a family and, you know, live in a major American city and support that family. We were just told, like, look, if you're going to try to get a job at Goldman Sachs, like, they're going to hire. women and black students way before you because they've got now people would say but Goldman Sachs is full of white guys or you know Morgan Stanley same thing yeah at the partner level

and at the VP like they already had you know been at the trough for decades it was the people the millennials who were coming up and this is what this piece gets to and and there were real consequences for this two TV writing turned into garbage in the last 10 years garbage top to bottom all over the place and it's because the writer's rooms were full of second and third tier skilled writers because they were the preferred

ethnicity or gender or sexual orientation or they were trans or whatever it may be the reason this has been such a phenomenon in this article and I've shared it and I've talked to my family about it and J.D. Vance and everybody is that this is a truth that

we were all observing but we weren't allowed to say you weren't allowed to say this I wasn't allowed to point out that I went to a college that turned down 85% of the applicants, Megan, but they had to have a special summer course for basic math and basic reading for black and Native American and some other groups of students. I mean, I had friends who got like 1550 on the SAT and at 4-0s. They didn't get in, but we're doing basic math. Still happening.

I know it's still happening, but at least now we can talk about it before it was. What we were being told was this was making no difference whatsoever to the quality of the applicant, to the skills of the, or, you know, to the skills of the person, and therefore it would make any difference in these institutions. That is a lie. It is obviously a lie. And you've seen this now. And you know what else? You know what else? This is an important point. It's illegal. Yes. It's totally fucking illegal. And the great piece of this story now, today in almost 2026 America, is, well, I'll just play it. The chairwoman of the EEOC, Andrea Lucas, has something that you need to hear. Take a listen. I'm Andrea Lucas, chair of the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

Are you a white male who's experienced discrimination at work based on your race or sex? You may have a claim to recover money under federal civil rights laws. Contact the EOC as soon as possible. Time limits are typically strict for filing a claim. The EOC is the federal agency charged with enforcing federal anti-discrimination law against businesses and other private sector employers. The EOC is committed to identifying, attacking, and eliminating all forms of race and sex discrimination, including against white male applicants and employees.

Check out EEOC.gov to learn more and read our one-page explainer about DEI-related discrimination. That's fantastic. Hallelujah. That was insane. That was great. That was like a Christmas miracle. Everybody who's been, every white male listening, if you've been discriminating, please, Sue, please do this. Because, by the way, the next administration, they're going to, all of a sudden, you're going to have to use the preferred pronoun.

If it's a Democrat, but you're going to have to use the preferred pronouns and we're going to go back. They're going to try to find ways around this and all this other nonsense. They need to feel the pain of the discrimination that they engaged in. And everybody needs to be willing to go back and say, why weren't more people vocal about this? Why weren't more people willing to say, clearly you're taking people with lesser skills, with less impressive credentials,

whether it's for academia, for writing in Hollywood, for, you know, big law? I mean, just go down the list. And I mean, this was what was going on. And it was systemic across the whole country. And finally now, someone says, And the problem was, Megan, they kept saying, oh, well, look, these institutions still, it's still 80% white or it's still, you know, 65% white men or whatever. At the top, maybe. But this is where the millennial aspect of it, this policy was instituted in a way where the people who really suffered were roughly my age cohort within 10 years.

So, again, I saw this up close and personal. I mean, I saw who was getting jobs out of Amherst at all these top firms. And if you were the right ethnicity, you got a job offer from everyone. Mm-hmm. Oh, I mean, of course. We all see it's still happening. And it's breeding race resentment. Well, of course. Truly. It's bringing a complete backlash. The very thing they claimed existed that didn't. They've created it. They love this story at CNN where they'll go, oh, you know, here is like, here is a student. And it's generally, you know, a student who is black, usually a black female, who got into every Ivy League school. And we're all supposed to clap. And I want to be like, okay, what were her SATs? I'm just wondering, because I had friends who got perfect SATs, perfect SATs, who didn't get in to, you know, any Ivy League school on the first go-round.

A lot of them don't get in anywhere, and they don't even just apply to Ivy Leagues now. I mean, I've seen it happen. There was that article in the New York Post a couple months ago from the Asian kid who, like, literally had a perfect score on the SAT, had a perfect GPA. Asians get it even worse than whites. Yes, that's true. And didn't get in anywhere because they really don't like the Asians. I mean, it's blatant race discrimination.

And this is post the U.S. Supreme Court decision saying, that's illegal. You can't do that. This is just like a mirror image of the civil rights. You have to actually enforce, which means you have to sue. And I know, I know Harmy Dillon at the Department of Justice has got our eye on this. We need more people to take action here because, yeah, they're just ignoring it. These institutions are trying to ignore as much as they can. If you look at the admission rates at Harvard for different ethnicities, they've stayed pretty static.

And we know that they're playing games with this stuff. So this is a, it's a hugely important conversation for the country. It has created a tremendous amount of resentment, and rightfully so. And, you know, the thing that I think galls a lot of people, Megan, and this is for all the white guys around my age listening to this, is that you were, you were kind of ridiculed in the most surly and condescending fashion. Like, oh, it's so hard to be a white male. It's like, what? I went to school with people, I went to a scholarship high school, and I went, there were plenty of white kids. there are plenty of minorities there.

But we're told that it's so easy for us. How is it easy if you're being discriminated against when you're applying to college, you're being discriminated against when you're applying for jobs, being discriminated against when it comes to promotions? Like, where does this white privilege thing kick in exactly? I mean, you know.

And on top of it, you're being blamed for all society's ills for nothing you've done. Nothing you've done sins of the father, the grandfather, the great, great people who were here when you weren't here, to whom you have no relation. Everything's your fault. Well, this is also ties directly into why the Democrat Party is in such a bad position right now

because men have just men who have like normal testosterone levels and see reality for what it is are just fed up with the Democrat Party. There's like this is this place is a joke. And it's in part because of this because Black men too. Yes. Not just white men. Black men. They're done too.

Across the board. But they realize that this is just the Democrat Party lives in this weird fantasy land where you're not allowed to say what the most obvious. You're not allowed to observe. The Democrat Party is engaged in a constant war on observation, and people get tired of that. Yeah, big time. All right, I got to go, but I want to end on something positive. And it is a story out of the Bondi Beach shooting that happened in Australia.

There were at least two civilians who tried to fight back against that father-son execution team, waving the ISIS flag all over their cars as they took the lives of Jewish gatherers trying to celebrate Hanukkah on the beach. And one of the men, one of the civilians, you see it here, who attacked one of the shooters is named Ahmed al-Ahmad. He tried to get the gun away and did get the gun away and eventually wound up losing the gun and he got shot himself, unfortunately. And he's okay. He's in the hospital. So people are hailing this guy as a hero because at least he tried.

You know, eventually we would see video of female cops cowering behind their cars. And here you have a genuinely brave, heroic civilian doing the right thing. He had no gun. Just charged the guy and got his gun. Anyway, there's been one of those public campaigns to get him something, like a check or a donation. And they did really well. $2.5 million has been raised, and they presented to him. This was posted on TikTok.

Take a look at SOT 15. I came here with news of people around the world. 43,000 people. They're in the hospital. They raised you $2.5 million. I deserve it. Every penny. My pleasure.

Thank you very much. If you could say one thing to the people, I'd donate, what would you tell about? Stand into each other, all human beings, and forget, put everything back, behind the back, and keep going to save life. Save life. When I do save the people, I do it from the heart.

this country, best country in the world, the best country in the world. But you're not going to stand and keep watching. Enough, it's enough. That's enough. Amazing. Amazing. You've got Ahmed al-Aqmed, working against these ISIS terrorists to save Jews on a beach. and then says, I deserve this? I said, 2.5 million, and reminds us all to stand for life.

It's fantastic, and I would just say I would like to see this become a bit more of what the standard is. It's not the standard of action, which is that people run to save their fellow human beings in a situation like this, but also that as societies, we should absolutely reward bravery, courage, saving the lives of fellow human beings in a situation like this. I mean, this should be the standard. So I'm happy to see that this guy, you know, certainly has enough money to, I think, retire comfortably in Melbourne or wherever. And he deserves it. And there should be, there should be more of this. And it's, you know, there's a whole lot to talk about with Bondi. We'll talk about maybe another time.

But in the meantime, this was the one bright spot of what was a horrendous day. And this guy deserves every penny. Yeah. Merry Christmas, my friend. Happy New Year. Thanks for everything this year. Always. Thank you so much, Megan. See you the new year. Yeah, see you then. Buck Sexton, everyone. Before we go, a word on what we're doing here. We are going on vacay with my family. And we have a bunch of good content for you next week, which I think will be new to you if you don't watch all of the MK media shows. And then the second week, that week from Christmas into New Year's, we have all new content for. you. It's our true crime Christmas week, which always does well because nothing says Christmas like true crime. It'll technically be post Christmas, but you get the point. So that'll be all new

content Monday through Friday of the second week, and I hope you enjoy it. And I really hope that you enjoy your time with your families, with your loved ones, with your friends, around the Christmas tree, around church on Christmas Eve, which is so magical, and that you get back to what matters, which is not online stuff. Stop focusing on the darkness that's been in the news lately. Just try to spend real time with your loved ones and the things that make you happy and make you, you, right? Who makes you you? It starts within you, but it's definitely got massive deposits every day from the people you surround yourself with. So choose well and amplify what's good for you. Minimize what's not. Have some downtime.

some quiet time, offline with a book, with some music, in church, get back in touch with God if that's for you. And in between now and then, I will see you tonight from the stage in Arizona at Turning Point USA, where I expect to make some news. Before we leave this program, we're going to play for you an interview we did the other day with Peyton McNabb. She was the teenager who was hurt by a boy pretending to be a girl in North Carolina in that volleyball game in a moment that changed the world. It was one of the seminal moments in the fight for girls and women's rights in sports and in this entire area. And she for years now has become the butt of a joke. People think she made it up, made up her injuries. There's been questions about whether the kid

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Real Clear Politics, and many more. It's bold, no BS news. Only on the Megan Kelly channel. Series XM 111 and on the Series XM app. We have quite an update for you now in a story that we first brought to you years ago about a female athlete whose life was turned upside down following a head injury she received after a male competing against her during a high school volleyball game back in 2002 spiked the ball in her face so hard she actually suffered. a brain injury. Peyton McNabb joined our show back in 2023 to share that story, describing how that injury impacted her everyday life. Well, over the past few years,

Peyton, who has continued to speak out to protect women's sports as an ambassador for the group Independent Women, has gotten abused repeatedly by the hateful left. Everyone from John Oliver to many others, including a comedian who just this month went, viral for making fun of Peyton's injury, decided that she was fair game, that she overstated the extent of her injuries, and that the trans athlete, so-called trans athlete, male to female, is really the one we should feel sorry for here. Some have even questioned whether she even got hit in the face by a trans player. Well, today she has, for us, exclusive video of this athlete, who is a man pretending to be a woman who injured her years ago while in high school who shows

zero remorse for the pain he caused her. Peyton, welcome back to the show. How you doing? Hi, Megan. Thank you so much for having me. I'm doing well. Of course. So you were in high school in North Carolina and just remind the audience what happened.

You were what year in high school and we'll show the video, but tell us what happened. Yeah, so it was my senior year of high school. I went into this game. There was a guy on the other side of the net. I'm trying to be as encouraging and motivating as I can. I've played against him for four years at that point, but it was completely allowed in North Carolina because nothing had happened for them to ban it.

So I went to the game, and I get completely knocked out unconscious for about 30 seconds. While the other team laughs and I'm in a fencing position, the trainer comes up to me, ask me if I know what just happened to me, and I said, yeah, the boy on y'all's team just knocked me out. He rushed me off the court.

He did one little finger test on me and said I was good and can go all back into play. Thankfully, I did not go back into play because I ended up going to the doctor and finding out that I had a concussion, a partial brain bleed, and permanent whiplash. Oh, so awful. So this happens to you, and you found the temerity, the guts to speak out about it, and then instead, of calling you and apologizing, you told me this the first time you came on with your story, the male, pretending to be a female who did this to you, was very snarky to you behind the scenes. He was, showed absolutely no remorse and said that he's living rent-free in my head, which, you know, my whole life had changed at this point because of him and for him to have no remorse,

of course, which is what we see time and time again. I don't expect anything less of him, but for that to happen, you know, I was 17 at the time and I'm, I didn't know what to think and it was such a different time for me. And how far I've come in the past few years, even from the first time I spoke to you about this, I've grown so much and I know exactly what I'm saying and I'm confident in what I'm saying because I know that I'm right and the other side, you know, as much as I want to tear women like me down and silence us, we're just never going to because this fight is worth way more than that. And I've known that from the beginning. there's there's a reason this happened to you because you you seem so earnest to me like

i've of course believe you 100 but like you also i think are a very effective messenger because because you do seem just like a regular person you know you don't you don't have like an extra level of media polish you just seem normal and like a normal girl to whom this happened who found the guts to say something about it while this guy was remorseless you say behind the scenes. And now you contacted me privately to tell me that you had, but no one else had seen two videos of this guy talking about you and himself. These videos show how sorry he is for himself and the disdain for you, still remorseless. Now, when were these made? I'm going to show the audience, both of them, but when were they made? They were made shortly after all of this happened,

probably like a month or two, maybe. He posted them on TikTok, which we got right off of there, and then he shortly after deleted them. And I've been holding on to these because, you know, no one believes me. They say that I'm lying or that it was actually a girl or whatever, and that there's no proof that what I'm saying is even true. And I've felt no need to explain myself or to prove myself because I know what happened and everyone else knows what happened,

to the public, I'm lying and I'm covering it up. So I just thought, I wasn't, I wasn't planning on sharing these, but if they don't believe me, maybe they'll believe him, saying it himself. Let's watch. Okay, we're going to play the first one here where this is him, lamenting what's, what's happened to him in his senior year as a result of all this. Senior year recap. If you want to have a senior year just like me,

follow these steps. One, endure the hell that is school volleyball. Two, hit a girl in the face and make national news getting national hate. I was on Fox News twice. Number three, find out that your athletic director and your coach have been outing you to every school you played since freshman year against your will. Number four, get kicked off your old club volleyball team that you've been playing on for seven years. Total Drama Island style. I got voted off by the parents. Number five, try out for the only other good club team near you, and you get cut because of the national news that you're a faggot. Number six, contemplate quitting volleyball. Number seven, don't quit volleyball. Number eight, commit to the Kennesaw State on a full scholarship. Number nine, get your scholarship. And get your

taken away, because you told the coach that you're a tranny. The level of what appears to be some sort of mental break there is alarming. This person has made himself the entire victim. There's a, you lost your scholarship because it's for girls. That's a scholarship for a girl, which you're not. And he's lamenting that the coach is told opposing players he was on the team. that these players were going to have to face. Meanwhile, it's a question of safety.

And he's talking about, like, what he lost academic or athletically after he injured you. Why do you think that is? You think, like, parents have a right to know. Girls have a right to know. This is, like, he's trying to make himself look all feminine in that clip, but this is a, isn't he very tall and obviously very strong? Yeah, exactly.

And for him to turn this around, and he's the only victim in all of this, I mean, my senior year was completely ruined, too. I couldn't drive for several months. I never played volleyball again. And for him to be the victim, and of course it is, because that's what we see over and over again. And he's upset because he can't get girls' opportunities anymore. Like, that's what happens when a guy is on a girl's team.

And I hate to break that to him, but that's just the way it is. And you had to get a reality check somehow. And if you wouldn't have completely altered my life, then you probably still would have had that scholarship, which is unfortunate for me, but all things work out and happen for a reason. And I truly do believe that it did happen to me for a reason because I continue to say something about it. And I'm not going to stop. And because he shames me on TikTok and publicly as much as he can, I really don't care.

And I, you know, I'm sad that I felt bad for him because he's lost and there's something wrong. and I pray for him, but ultimately he's not the victim here. I was, and every single girl in that court was the victim that day. And here's a newsflash. You're not a woman, sir, and you never will be. It doesn't matter how much makeup you do, how much you inflate your lips, what you do to your hair. You are male, and you will stay male, no matter what hormones you inject, what surgeries you have, or how much you try to act when you get in front of a camera.

You're a boy. You're a man. That's what you should deal with. That's reality. Here's the second clip, equally infuriating, and he addresses you directly. Watch. Number 29, the girl you hit in the face goes to North Carolina General Assembly and speaks about her experience. Trying to get anti-trans legislation passed. The whole situation of you hitting her in the face is brought back to life. great. That is exactly what I needed in my senior year. Thank you, Peyton. So no question. There he is on camera admitting he was the one who hit you in the face. No denial. And blaming you for testifying about it when asked on the should we ban boys from girls sports bill. Yeah, like, thank you for completely altering and ruining my life at the time was what I thought.

Um, you know, I, I, it's not my fault that you got your stuff taken away. That's, that's what you, that's, you know, what comes with pretending to be a girl and invading a girl's space and they're fraud. So, like, actions have consequences, and I hate that, like, he had the reality check so early, but that's just the way it is. And it's not my fault that your senior year got ruined. That's your fault for pretending and staying in this lie. And everyone else around you who continued to lie to you instead of telling you the truth. And, you know, that's not love to me. Loving isn't lying. And I feel bad for him that he didn't have people that were willing to tell him what the truth was.

early on. He's got a lot of anger in him. I mean, I would stay away if I were you. This person seems somewhat unhinged to me. But he's not the only one. Like, when John Oliver did that hit piece on you, Peyton, I almost fell out of my chair. It was so unfair. And John Oliver has an executive producer who's trans male to female.

And so everything John Oliver says is out of this world off. Off the rails. Just completely unhinged in favor of trannies. That's who's running his programming. That's what explains all of his commentary. He does not give a shit about young girls or women who are getting hurt. He couldn't care less to the point where he actually came for you in a monologue he did in April of 2025, which we got into at length at the time. But here's the piece that touches on you and your injury, SOT 39. The most famous example concerns Peyton McNabb, a three-sport high school athlete who was hit in the face by a spike during a volleyball match. She suffered injuries, including a concussion, and started speaking out against the policies that allowed the trans player who spiked the ball to play. A concussion is genuinely traumatic, though for what it's worth, she did go on to play softball in the spring and did pretty well, judging by her school posting this image about her making the all-conference team, and a local paper pointing out she helped her team to a 5-0 start. And I'm not saying she wasn't injured, or that it didn't have some impact on her performance. But a lot of the groups heavily pushing this story seemed to be overselling it. Hmm. Thoughts on that.

I mean, a grown man who is talking down on, I was 17 at the time when this happened to me, and I'm trying to live a normal life the best I can. I'm very thankful and blessed to have come from the community that I came from, who my whole team, all the teams that I played, my officials, coaches, everyone knew what was going on with me, and they were very, very considerate on, you know, if something happened to me, the whole game is stopping to see if I'm okay. And that was a really dark time for me and my family and my community as a whole and something that I would never wish on anyone for them to go through. And this grown man is getting on here and making, like, making fun and light of my situation. I could never imagine my dad getting on online and on his show and saying that about a 17-year-old girl's injury.

Like, I genuinely can't think of that. And he is so deranged, and it's just so stupid to watch that. I didn't even, I couldn't even watch that whole thing because when this all aired, I was also, it was kind of rough because I had just gotten back from the State of the Union. And I was getting attacked. Like, I had gotten attacked earlier on, but it had kind of. You know how it comes in waves and people don't really say anything for a little while, but I was getting really beat down. I was having to stay with my sisters because in a different state because people were trying to find out where I lived. And then this just added more flames to the fire.

And I was clean and I'm like, like, I did not know how to do what to do. And for him to like be taking joy, like there's joy on his face for talking about me that way. Like what is wrong with you? I would never, I could never imagine. Disgusting. What is wrong with him? Something seriously and deep is wrong with John Oliver. He's being programmed by his tranny producer who's calling the shots over there.

And he's too much of a weak P-word to stand up to this person and shares the ideology. He'd love to see my daughter and everyone else's daughter get the same injury you had and worse, just as long as he feels good about what he's done for the trans community, the ones who are hurting our girls. You mentioned the State of the Union. Here, that was a crazy moment where Trump mentioned you. This is March of 2025. And the Democrats refused to stand.

They're against young girls who get hurt by male players standing up for themselves. Here's what happened. Three years ago, Peyton McNabb was an all-star high school athlete, one of the best, preparing for a future in college sports. But when her girl's volleyball match was invaded by a male, he smashed the ball so hard in Peyton's face, causing traumatic brain injury, partially paralyzing her right side

and ending her athletic career. It was a shot like she's never seen before. She's never seen anything like it. Peyton is here tonight in the gallery, and Peyton, from now on, school, will kick the men off the girls team or they will lose all federal funding. It's such a play. Like everything's so fake and for all of them to be wearing their pink suits and trying to signal to everyone that they're the party for the women and then they refuse to

even look at me when I'm getting mentioned for having a brain injury because of a guy in spandex. how can you even claim to be the party of women, and then you do that? Like, actions speak way louder than what you're wearing, and you prove it time and time again that you're not for women. And, like, we've begged and pleaded for you to be on our side, and there's women all over the country who are begging for this. Like, everyone's tired of it. The American people are tired of it, which has also been brought up in multiple, multiple

cases, because it keeps happening. And you can't even look at me when I'm getting. recognized and like how sad is that you have to be so sad and deranged but I can't even be like I'm not surprised about it I wasn't surprised about it at the time either because I mean they've they've proven themselves over and over again um but they didn't even just stand you're too threatening exactly like they're not going to stand for me they didn't even stand for Lake and Raleigh's family when they got recognized and like what is wrong with you there is something evil and and like mentally just deranged about them and they they hide behind the colors that they're wearing

like that just makes no sense to me and it infuriated me it's amazing how the bullying continues like you got bullied by this trans player you've been bullied by some of the biggest names in media and now you get bullied by half of the democrats or more than half of the democrats at the state of the union and it goes on so this happened back in 2022 here we are in 2025, almost 2026. I mentioned this in the intro, but here's this so-called comedian, Stacey Kay, who is also a trans person, right? I'm told that this person is also trans. And this is what Stacey Kay said about you just like a few weeks ago, and it just, it was filmed in September, but it went viral in December at the Denver Comedy Underground here. The whole argument is she

suffered catastrophic brain damage, right? That she'll never recover from, she'll never be able to have a normal life. And this is with her in the room. They're just, they're like, look how slow she is. She'll never be able to drive. And they don't, they don't ever want to show

the clip of what happens, because it's pretty funny, actually. It's a seven-second clip. And it's a girl, it's a trans girl, presumably, I'm told, goes up to do a spike and I can't tell she's trans her form is perfect she looks good at sports right and then there's Peyton sitting back like I don't know six feet from the net flat-footed with her hands down like this and then she just gets hit right in the head and falls over like a toddler

and I'm like oh she was really like this before I don't know if there's a nice way to say this but she should have been wearing a helmet She should have been out there with the normal people. That guy wants to make a pronouncement on normal, on what's normal and what's not. Take off your dress, sir, put your pants back on, and stop trying to co-opt our identity. That dress does not make you a woman. Nothing ever will. See point earlier in response to the trans player who hurt.

Peyton, unbelievable. What did you think when you saw that? Well, I mean, how desperate for laughs do you have to be for a grown dude and a dress to be making fun of a girl who was 17 at the time who literally suffered a permanent brain injury? Like, how sad is that, first of all? But it is all deeply rooted from a hatred of women, which is the common theme here. You know, like, I have things that he'll never have. One, I'm actually naturally hilarious. But two, I'm an actual woman, and he will never, ever be able to have that.

He never will. It does not matter how many push-up bras you wear, how many dresses you wear. It's not going to happen. And there's literally you can do to make it happen. And I was also thinking, like, the people laughing behind the scenes, that was what was kind of upsetting to me at first. I'm like, first of all, who's bored enough to even go to a show like this? Like, I genuinely never think of a time where I would have nothing better to do than to go to one of these shows. But then to actually be laughing at a joke like this, at first I was convinced It was a laughing track because I'm like, it wasn't even funny. I'm all about a good joke in making light of a situation, and I'm not soft by all means on making fun or a lot of stuff.

But that's when it's actually funny, and there was no punchline. Like, they're genuinely, it wasn't even a joke. It was just him making fun of a girl who was 17 who got injured by a dude in spandex, and now a dude in a dress is laughing about it. Like, make that make sense. It sounds like a parody, but that was real life. and that's who's coming after me for telling the simple truth that you will never be a woman. You will never be like me who is an actual woman. And that's what you hate.

So that's what you're attacking. And that's sad for you, but there's nothing anyone can do about that, including you. And they want it all. They want to have a monthly cycle. It's a no. They want to get pregnant and have a baby. You can't. They want to nurse the baby.

Also a no. They want all the things that women come by, thanks to go. God that will never be available to them. They want the softness of our skin. They want the lusiness of our hair. They want the beautiful sense that come with a woman's body. It's all a no. You're a man. You're going to be a hairy, large person with shoulders and hips and legs that we would never have. And you will never have a baby. You will never be able to do the miracles that God allowed us to do. Deal with that. Get off the stage, take off the dress, and deal with that instead of attacking a teenager for her brain injury, you sick, M. F her. Okay, I stole the last word on that,

but I do want us to get you to say quickly before we go, are we feeling good about what's happening with Olympic sports now and the trend, we're not there yet, but the trend we're seeing on this issue in America? I think so. I think more people are willing to stand up and say what they actually feel and what they actually think. And there was a time where no one could say what we were saying or they would get canceled or fired or whatever. And I think it's gotten to the point where parents and dads and just everyone in general is just sick and tired of it because it's been going on for way too long. And the Olympics, the IOC, actually making lie. I mean, they said because of scientific studies that men have more biological strength

than women, like obviously. That's what we've been saying for years. So, It's not the rocket signs that they just came up with, like, obviously. But at least they're saying it. I would love for them to give back the medals that the men took last year. Because, like, what are you doing? Why was a man allowed to be able to be in a ring and punch a girl in the face and then get a gold medal for it? Like, that is so sick. But at least things are finally turning.

More and more people are willing to stand up and say something about it, which obviously wasn't happening. very much before. So I'm thankful to see the tide turning and I really do have high hopes for it as long as more people are, you know, waking up to the fact that this could happen to anyone. This happened to me in the middle of rural North Carolina and that's what woke me up. I'm like, we shouldn't have waited until it happened to me to say something, but the fact that's happening here is happening everywhere because that's not something that we ever saw. So I don't want this ever to be a possibility for my younger sister who I'm doing this all for. And if I get blessed enough to have a daughter one day, like, she should never even think it's a possibility

for a man to be on the other side of the net, because there was a time in my life where I thought that, too, like, I didn't think that would ever be allowed in that my parents, or the parents, all the parents in there wouldn't allow that to happen, but the fact that actually happened, and it was celebrated, and it's still happening in some places in some states, and it's just so crazy, but I really do think that we're going in a good direction, and more and more people are saying enough is enough because it's just everyone has a woman in their life and whether they want to admit it or not like it's happening in every every way well thanks to you uh you and others like you who have found your voice and used it Peyton all the best thank you so much for being here

thank you and thank you for for telling my story from the beginning like I've never really had the opportunity to thank you for that so thank you so much oh my honor I'm sorry that it happened to you but I'm super glad with what you've done with it. Thank you. You're a heroine. Peyton McNabb, everybody. See you soon. Thanks for listening to The Megan Kelly Show.

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