The Megyn Kelly Show - The JonBenét Conspiracies: The Nightmare After Christmas — Ep. 1 | MK Confidential

Episode Date: July 21, 2026

“MK Confidential” launches with a deep dive into the murder of JonBenét Ramsey, the case that gripped America and fueled nearly 30 years of obsession. It is the day after Christmas, 1996, when a ...mother’s 911 call turns a quiet Boulder neighborhood into the most scrutinized crime scene in the country. Megyn Kelly goes back to the beginning: the wealthy family, the six-year-old beauty queen, the bizarre ransom note, the early police investigation, the possible suspects inside and outside the home, and the little girl found dead in her own basement. Almost every clue seems to point in two directions at once, and the questions start here. This is Episode 1 of 5 in The JonBenét Conspiracies.   Birch Gold: Text MK to 989898 and get your free info kit on gold. Supersure: Ditch the Jargon: Simplify Your Insurance at https://Supersure.com/Megyn   Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKelly Twitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShow Instagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShow Facebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at:https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In Colorado, it has all the makings of a classic murder mystery, a ransom note, a dead body, strange twists and turns. For nearly 30 years, the murder of John Bonae Ramsey has haunted America. Not just because she was a beautiful six-year-old girl. Not just because she was found dead inside her own home the day after Christmas, but because almost every piece of this case seems to point in two directions at once. Was there an intruder? Or was the fan and fob? I did not kill my daughter, John Bonnet.
Starting point is 00:00:32 What parent would ever strangle their own child? Over the next five episodes, we will go back to the beginning of the John Bonnet Ramsey case. And we'll be back every day for the next eight weeks with many more cases. This is true crime like you've never heard it before. This is MK Confidential. There have been suspects, confessions, theories, explosive accusations, and more TV documentaries on John Bonnet Ramsey than we can. count. But underneath all of that noise is the story of a six-year-old girl whose death became a
Starting point is 00:01:08 national obsession. To much of America, John Bonnet first appeared, not as a child, but as a pageant image. Big hair, makeup, sequined costumes, a practice smile beneath the stage lights. Her mother Patsy had been a pageant queen herself, Miss West Virginia, and John Bonnet was following in her footsteps. After her death, the videos played over and over on a loop. John Bonnet waving from a parade float, John Bonnet singing in a sparkling outfit. Those images fascinated the country and in some ways distorted the case right from the start because the pageant girl America saw on TV was only one version of this little girl.
Starting point is 00:01:52 She was also a kindergartner, a daughter, a little sister, a six-year-old kid who played with friends and loved to perform. She just had this effervescent personality, just like Patsy. I mean, just, ta-da, here I am, you know. That Christmas, she asked her father for one more turn on her brand new bike. She wanted to keep riding her bike, and I said, well, we'll do it later. And, of course, there wasn't a later. Within days of her killing, John Bonae was no longer simply a murdered child.
Starting point is 00:02:25 She'd become a symbol. the child beauty queen, the little girl in makeup, the face on every supermarket tabloid and television screen in America. And while the country argued over her parents and her pageants and her family's private life, the most important fact remained unchanged. Someone had killed her. Someone killed this six-year-old child. We know that. This is the story of a murdered child, and the family, the police, the lawyers, and the community forever changed by what happened inside that house. She did mean something in this world.
Starting point is 00:03:04 I'm Megan Kelly, and this is M.K. Confidential. We wouldn't be celebrating America 250 if it wasn't for a strong foundation set by the framers. Hamilton built America's financial foundation on the principle of sound, stable money, a principle later embodied by the gold standard. However, we abandoned that discipline in 1971. and have seen inflation erode the dollar's value ever since. What's the foundation of your savings? Is it gold? Is gold even in there?
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Starting point is 00:04:26 Boulder, Colorado, less than four degrees outside. Candy Canes line the winding walkway to the Ramsey House at 7.5515th Street. It's a large brick, Tudor-style home in a well-to-do neighborhood, elegantly decorated for Christmas. John Ramsey is up before dawn, puttering around. He talked about that morning with CNN. We were planning to get up early and fly to Michigan to meet my older kids for like a second. Christmas. Our normal routine like that if we're going to go somewhere is let the kids stay in bed. And then when we're ready to go, we get them up and then we go. They might stay in their pajamas
Starting point is 00:05:09 in the car. The Ramsey's private plane is prepped for the trip to Michigan, loaded with presents. John's a tech entrepreneur and CEO worth $7 million. His company accessed graphics just cleared $1 billion in annual profits. John met his wife Patsy in Atlanta back in 1979. They married a year later. He hesitated at first due to their 13-year each gap, but he eventually asked the beauty queen out for a date, and the rest is history.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Patsy was a former pageant queen crowned Miss West Virginia in 1977. Their six-year-old daughter, John Bonae, seems to be following in Patsy's footsteps and is already active in child beauty pageants. John had been married before. for Patsy. He was divorced and brought three kids into their marriage. When John Binae was born, she had four siblings, two older sisters, Beth and Melinda, and an older brother, John Andrew, all from John's first marriage. Patsy gave birth to John Bonae's older brother, Burke, in 1987.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Burke is nine years old at Christmas time, just one month shy of the big double-digit birthday. That night before bed, Burke asks his dad to help. put together one of his new toys. John sits with him and the two build it together. The Ramsey family had already endured extraordinary loss. John's eldest daughter, Beth, died in a car accident a few years earlier. I spoke with John about this. I got a phone call from my brother and he said,
Starting point is 00:06:45 John, Beth is gone. She's killed. And there's nothing I could do. I couldn't get her to the best doctors. I couldn't rush to her side. It was over. More of that conversation as we move deeper into this case. Shortly after Beth's accident, Patsy received a life-threatening diagnosis.
Starting point is 00:07:04 She spoke with Barbara Walters about it on ABC back in 2000. I'm a cancer survivor of stage four cancer. John has lost a child in an automobile accident. That completely changes your outlook. When you are standing on the brink of death with a terminal illness, your priorities suddenly line up in a row. And you know exactly what the important thing. things are in life.
Starting point is 00:07:26 John elaborated on that when we spoke. Patsy didn't say it, but I know she was trying to pack a lot of mother-daughter time into what she maybe felt was a limited lifetime. Patsy underwent a grueling course of experimental chemotherapy. At a time when few women successfully fought off ovarian cancer, she beat the odds and went into remission. By Christmas of 1996, the Ramses see themselves is fortunate, healthy again, financially secure, surrounded by family, and preparing for another
Starting point is 00:08:01 Christmas celebration in Michigan. That is the life they believed that they were waking up to. But downstairs on a narrow back staircase near the kitchen, three sheets of lined white legal paper are waiting. Patsy spoke with CNN a week after the murder. It was quite early in the morning, and I'd gotten dressed and I was on my way to the kitchen to make some coffee. And we have a back staircase from the bedroom areas. And I always come down that staircase. And I'm usually the first one down.
Starting point is 00:08:44 And the note was lying across the three pages across the run of one of the stair. treads. And it was kind of dimly lit, because it was very early in the morning. And I started to read it, and it was addressed to John. Here's how John told it to me. You know, I was getting ready to get dressed, and she screamed. I could tell from the scream. It was a, something was very, very wrong. And I ran down and she had this, ransom note and you know it was just a unbelievable thing the ransom note is incredibly long one of the longest in the history of kidnapping mr ramsay listen carefully with an exclamation point we are a group of individuals that represent a small foreign faction we respect your business
Starting point is 00:09:52 business is misspelled but not the country that it serves At this time, we have your daughter in our possession, also misspelled. She is safe and unharmed, and if you want her to see 1997, you must follow our instructions to the letter. Patsy's reaction was one of sheer panic. I can't remember exactly what the first few lines said, but somewhere it said, we have your daughter. And it clicked, you know, your daughter. And I just bounded back up the steps and threw her door open and she was not in her bed. The note continues, you will withdraw $118,000 from your account.
Starting point is 00:10:44 $100,000 will be in $100 bills and the remaining $18,000 in $20 bills. Make sure that you bring an adequate size attaché to the bank. When you get home, you will put the money in a brown paper bag. I will call you between 8 and 10 a.m. tomorrow to instruct you on delivery. The delivery will be exhausting, so I advise you to be rested. If we monitor you getting the money early, we might call you early to arrange an earlier delivery of the money, and hence an earlier pickup of your daughter. Any deviation of my instructions will result in the immediate execution of your daughter.
Starting point is 00:11:23 You will also be denied her remains for proper burial. The two gentlemen watching over your daughter do not particularly like you, so I advise you not to provoke them. Speaking to anyone about your situation such as police, FBI, etc., will result in your daughter being beheaded. If we catch you talking to a stray dog, she dies. If you alert bank authorities, she dies. If the money is in any way marked or tampered with, she dies. You will be scanned for electronic devices, and if any are found, she dies. You can try to deceive us, but be warned that we are familiar with law enforcement countermeasures and tactics.
Starting point is 00:12:03 You stand a 99% chance of killing your daughter if you try to outsmart us. Follow our instructions and you stand a 100% chance of getting her back. You and your family are under constant scrutiny as well as the authorities. That was the worst moment. It was suddenly realizing that someone had your daughter, your child. and it's taken her and she was gone and we didn't know where she was and it was dark it was cold outside don't try to grow a brain john you are not the only fat cat around so don't think that killing will be difficult don't underestimate us john use that good southern common sense of yours it is up to you
Starting point is 00:12:49 now john the note is signed victory with an exclamation point and then the letters s bt c Just told Patsy to call the police, call the police, call 911. At 5.52 a.m., Patsy calls 911 from the Ramsey Homeland line. We have a kid and why not, okay? There's a note left in our daughter's called. Is it say who took her? What? Does it say who shouldn't her?
Starting point is 00:13:19 I don't know. Patty. John's heart sank. You have this instinctive, just horrible feeling in your stomach that, you know, where's my child? After hanging up with nine. 911, Patsy calls two couples who are close to the family and asks them to come over. I called our friends that we had had dinner with the night before. And just in a, you know, a jobena is missing, you know, can you come over or help, you know?
Starting point is 00:13:59 And then I called another couple close friend of ours. And they came right over. Within minutes of the 911 call, the first Boulder PD officer pulls up. in front of the Ramses. Officer Rick French shuts off his engine in the pre-dawn dark. John and Patsy meet him at the front door and tell him what's happening. They show him the ransom note which now lays on the wooden floor outside the kitchen. Their son, Burke, is still sleeping upstairs. Officer French later describes Patsy as visibly shaken and frantic, while John seems calm and under control. That morning with John Meney, it wasn't over yet. I could get her back if I
Starting point is 00:14:41 kept my wits about me and focused on getting her back to whatever I could possibly do. I didn't, I was focused on getting her back and I felt I could get her back. Officer French conducts a quick search of the house looking for a possible exit route the kidnapper might have used. In the basement, he comes to a door secured with a makeshift latch. He stops in front of the door and studies it. He stops but does not open it. He will later defend that decision by saying he did not think it was a way out of the home. Police ask John and Patsy if John Bonae could have just run away from home. But John is adamant.
Starting point is 00:15:24 She's six years old. It is dark and it's freezing cold outside. No, she did not just run away. John and Patsy are thinking we need to close the roads. We need to deploy roadblocks, close the airport. But they assume the police know what they're doing. The Ramsey's friends arrive. Fleet and Priscilla White, John and Barbara Fernie.
Starting point is 00:15:45 The women take the nearly hysterical Patsy into the sunroom. Victim advocates arrive at the house as well, bringing bagels and coffee. They all try to help the Ramses, washing dishes, cleaning countertops, anything to help pass the time while waiting for the kidnappers' promised phone call. John talked about this moment with Barbara Walters back in 2000. People were making coast in the kitchen. And yes, a kidnapping is a crime scene, but we were so focused on getting Jominee back. That was the task.
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Starting point is 00:17:43 He calls in the FBI. John takes Burke to a nearby friend's house. He phones a banker friend who raises his credit limit to $118,000, the exact amount of the ransom, and they wait. Hours go by, but no word from the kidnappers. If you're with your child and you're in a department store or grocery store and you look around and the child's gone, it's a terrible feeling.
Starting point is 00:18:07 I think all parents have experienced that, and that was the feeling we had. And it went on until 1001 in the afternoon. From the road, the Ramses is kind of a deceiving house. Outside, it doesn't look that big, but inside it's huge. The house sprawls across more than 6,500 square feet with multiple floors, additions, staircases, narrow hallways and rooms that do not connect in any obvious way. John and Patsy had converted the top floor into their master suite. John Bonaise's bedroom is one level below, near Burke's room, and almost across the house from her parents.
Starting point is 00:18:47 A sound in the middle of the night would be nearly impossible to hear. Soon more police arrive, including detectives and a forensics team. They dust the house for fingerprints and search for other clues, but find no obvious signs of a struggle and no clear crime scene. A phone calls made and police put a canine unit with a tracking dog on standby. The dog is never called to the house. Sergeant Robert Whitson goes upstairs and looks in John Bonaise bedroom. It appears largely undisturbed. Her clothes and toys are there.
Starting point is 00:19:24 The bed is not made and has clearly been slept in, but no John Bonae. He shuts her door as officers seal it with yellow and black crime scene tape. and tells John Ramsey, nobody goes in there. The police do not cordon off the rest of the house. Below all the bedrooms lies the main living level, the kitchen, dining areas, and the back spiral staircase the family uses every day. And then there's the basement,
Starting point is 00:19:52 a maze of storage rooms, utility spaces, and passages. Burke keeps an electric train set in the basement in what's known as the train room. Nearby is a small windowless storage room the family calls the wine cellar even though no wine is kept there. This is the room Officer French passed in his early morning search without opening the door. Officers ask for handwriting samples from John and Patsy to compare to the ransom note. John provides two notepads, one with his writing, one with Patsies. The Boulder PD handwriting expert, Detective Jeff Kithkart, finds something.
Starting point is 00:20:31 immediately interesting. Behind the obvious sample of Patsy's handwriting, one page of the notepad contains a partial phrase, Mr. and Mrs., followed by a black vertical line. To Kithkart, this line looks very much like the beginnings of an R, and like this page is the first draft of the ransom note. Suddenly, it seems the ransom note was written inside the Ramsey home, using the family's very own scribble pad. The ransom note had promised that the kidnapper or kidnappers would call between 8 and 10 a.m. 8 a.m. rolls around. 8.30. John paces the floor. 9 a.m. comes and goes. The mood in the house becomes increasingly tense. 10 a.m. and still nothing.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Patsy sits with her friends in the sunroom. At one point, I said, well, what are we doing here? You know, what's the plan of action? You're so frustrated because you don't, I mean, you want the whole world to just stop right there so that you can go find this baby. It's now early afternoon. The forensics team and other officers have packed up and left. Detective Linda Arndt finds herself the only law enforcement officer at the house to control seven civilians, John and Patsy, four family friends, and the Ramsey's.
Starting point is 00:21:56 pastor, the Reverend Roll Hoverstock of St. John's Episcopal Church. These people have been in and all over the house. You've got bagels everywhere, orange juice, coffee, people preparing food and drinks throughout the day cleaning up the place. John paces around the living room and Patsy sits virtually motionless in a chair. Arndt calls for police backup to help control the scene, but no one arrives. She expressed her frustration to ABC. in 1999.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Both times I was told everybody's in a meeting. They got your message, and that was it. Around 1 p.m. in an effort to keep John occupied, Art pulls him and one of his friends aside. She tells them to conduct a top-to-bottom search of the house to see if anything is amiss. We went to the basement, which to me was a logical place to start. Third floor, you couldn't get into the third floor from outside. So we went to the basement and went into what we called the train room where the kids had a train setup. And there was an open window and a suitcase propped up under the window as if it were to be a step.
Starting point is 00:23:13 And I told my friend, I said, that suitcase should not be there. That's way out of a place. We wouldn't have put it there. The only other room in that basement was this, we called it a wine cellar, but it was an old coal. stellar dark one door going in to do it, no entrances from the outside. And I opened the door and, of course, immediately found John Bonae. John Bonae's body lies in a pile, covered with a white blanket. There's duct tape over her mouth. I knew instantly, instantly what I'd found. I'd found my daughter. John pulls the tape off and throws it aside. His friend bolts up the stairs yelling for someone
Starting point is 00:23:54 to call 911. John tries to loosen the bindings on John Bonnet's wrists, but they're tied too tightly. So I just picked her up and carried her screaming, actually I was screaming to upstairs, to take her to help. Detective Arndt hears John scream from the basement and runs to meet him at the top of the stairs. She quickly tells him to put John Bonnet's body down.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Then she moves it next to the Christmas tree. And he asked if she was dead. And I said, yes, she's dead. John stays close to John Bonnet, repeating the phrase, My little angel, my little angel. The Ramsey's pastor sees John Bonnet's body and begins praying aloud. Patsy heard John scream from the basement and her friends held her back. And I said, what?
Starting point is 00:24:46 You know, what, what is? And, and Barbara, my friend, just, grabbed me and said, no, just stay, just stay right here. And I kept saying, what, what, what is it, what is it? And I think we walked into the living room and she was there. And John said she's... Patsy throws her body over John Vene's. I remember walking in and seeing her lying there in front of the Christmas tree.
Starting point is 00:25:38 I knelt down over her and just laid my body on her body and my cheek against her cheek. And it was cold. Father Raw was there. And he started saying the last rites, I believe. And I just kept saying, no, no, you know, ask God, askotch. Detective Arndt asks John to call 911 and then calls it. herself. She declares a code black. In other
Starting point is 00:26:21 words, a murder. The ambulance arrives about 15 minutes later. Law enforcement and the forensics team rush back to the Ramsey House, though moving the body twice presents a unique challenge for evidence collection. Officers hurry to clear the scene so John and Patsy
Starting point is 00:26:39 relocate to a friend's house in South Boulder. We rush it out of the house pretty quickly and we never went back in that home. That was the last time we were in that home. Past Santa Claus in his sleigh and a double row of candy canes. Deputy coroners brought the body of six-year-old John Bonnet Ramsey from her upscale home. Someone inside this house had made a 911 call saying that little John Bonnet had been kidnapped. Well, when police got here, they went
Starting point is 00:27:08 inside the house, and a short time later, they found the little girl's body. The Boulder County coroner arrives at the Ramsey home around 8 p.m. on December 26. His examination is short, lasting about 10 minutes. But several things become clear right away. According to the autopsy, whoever killed John Bonnet took white olefin cord and tied her wrists together. The person used the same cord to make what's commonly known as a garot or a ligature to strangle John Bonnet. A garat is a brutally simple mechanism. It uses a cord around the neck and some kind of handle.
Starting point is 00:27:47 to twist that cord tighter. The more it's twisted, the more pressure it puts on the neck, cutting off air and blood flow. It's similar to a tourniquet, but with a deadly purpose. Police say the knot on this garot was tied by someone who understood how a garot is made, and the fact that her hair and her gold cross necklace are tangled in it suggests that John Bonnet was alive when it happened.
Starting point is 00:28:14 John Bonnet also has very distinct red marks below her throat that match the shape of her own fingers. It looks like she tried to claw on the cord wrapped around her neck as it choked the very life out of her. The cord is wrapped around John Bonnet's neck so tightly that it has cut a deep furrow into the skin. It was so deeply embedded in her skin that I didn't see it. The cord is nodded and attached to a broken stick at the back of John Bonnet's neck. That broken stick was part of a paintbrush hand. from Patsy's art supplies stored in the basement near the room where John Bonnet's body was found. The coroner performs John Bonnet's full autopsy the following morning at 8.15 a.m.
Starting point is 00:29:00 He lists two causes of death, either strangulation or a blow to the head. He can't determine which happened first, but either would have killed her. You can't comprehend that anybody would be that evil. There are also microscopic fibers of the body. of the paintbrush handle from the garot found in John Bonnet's vagina, as well as signs of injury to the interior tissue. This leads investigators to believe John Bonnet was sexually assaulted with the paintbrush handle. The tiny blood vessels inside John Bonnet's eyelids had burst, and investigators find surprisingly little bleeding from the massive wound to her head.
Starting point is 00:29:41 There's an eight-inch crack in her skull attributed to blunt force trauma, putting those two facts Together, some experts believe the strangulation happened first, meaning that by the time she was struck in the head, her heart may have already stopped or was barely pumping. Boulder police find two items that they think might be involved in the head injury, a baseball bat found outside the Ramsey's house, and a maglight flashlight found in the kitchen. But there is no physical evidence on either one, no useful fingerprints, no DNA, nothing. It's two. It's two. It's two. weeks after the murder and Boulder chief of police Tom Kobe holds a town hall to answer reporters questions about the ongoing investigation. John Bonaise's death was the first murder reported in Boulder for
Starting point is 00:30:28 1996 and it happened with just five days left in the year. That lack of homicide experience matters as there have been major mistakes at the crime scene, mistakes that cannot be undone. Did police search the house after the 911 call, but before the body was found. They did a preliminary search of the house, and remember this is a very big house. Did they look in the room where John Ramsey said the girl's body was, or did they not? It doesn't appear that they got down. That room was down in a part of the basement. It doesn't appear that they got to. But one person has zero doubt in her mind about who the killer is. Boulder detective Linda Arndt.
Starting point is 00:31:16 And John leaned down opposite me and his face was just inches from mine. And we had a nonverbal exchanged that I will never forget. As we looked at each other, I remember, and I wore a shoulder holster, tucking my gun right next to me, and consciously counting I've got 18 bullets because I didn't know if we'd all be alive when people showed up I knew what happened you were afraid because you thought the killer was still in the house
Starting point is 00:31:55 I knew it absolutely absolutely and she's not the only one join me tomorrow for the next chapter in our story on mk confidential

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