The Megyn Kelly Show - Trump Calls Out "Pirates" and Celebrates Heroes at SOTU, and Robert De Niro Literally Cries Over Trump, with RealClearPolitics | Ep. 1260

Episode Date: February 25, 2026

Megyn Kelly discusses President Trump’s historic State of the Union address, his smart trap for Democrats about whether their duty is to Americans over illegal immigrants, Ilhan Omar’s ridiculous outbursts, and more. Then Tom Bevan, Carl Cannon, and Andrew Walworth of RealClearPolitics join to discuss their “grades” for Trump's SOTU address, American heroes honored during the speech, the notable moments about immigration and the border, Trump calling out “Somali pirates” and Minnesota fraud, Ilhan Omar’s non-stop yelling during the speech, Trump honoring military heroes at the SOTU, leftists and media slamming Trump for giving medals during the address, Erika Kirk and Iryna Zarutskas’s mother being honored by Trump at the State of the Union, Democrats refusing to stand for the two women, alternate State of the Unions held by leftists and weird people in frog costumes, Joy Reid singing and trashing America, Abigail Spanberger's charisma-less State of the Union response, comparisons of her to a cartoon character, Robert De Niro crying while talking about Trump with Nicolle Wallace, his commentary about divisiveness yet constantly making divisive comments, and more.   More from Bevan, Cannon, and Walworth - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/   Relief Factor: Break up with pain—Relief Factor targets inflammation so you can move better and feel better; try the 3-Week QuickStart for just $19.95 at https://ReliefFactor.com or call 800-4-RELIEF. Herald Group: Learn more at https://GuardYourCard.com SaunaSpace: Discover why SaunaSpace’s infrared FireLight tech is redefining at‑home wellness—visit https://Sauna.Space/MEGYN and use code MEGYN for 10% off your entire order. Joi + Blokes: Go to http://joiandblokes.com/MKand use code MK for 65% off your labs and 20% off all supplements     Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKelly Twitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShow Instagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShow Facebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow  Find out more information at:https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East. Hey, everyone, I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to the Megan Kelly Show. President Trump last night delivering the longest state of the union address in American history, clocking in it just under one hour and 48 minutes. I have to say, it didn't feel that long to me. It was long, but he kept it entertaining. I mean, as these things go. It's like, are you hot or are you Supreme Court hot? You know, like when I cover the high. Court, we used to joke. Chief Justice McDreamy, he looked great up there, you know, next to like Ginsburg, but out on the street, maybe not so much. So as the state of the unions go, it was hot. And it was long by any measure. It was vintage Trump highlighting his administration's successes

and the Democrats' failures honoring the best of us. I mean, amazing people were highlighted. I mean, hats off to the White House team for choosing truly incredible folks. Like, our war heroes, Olympic champions, of course. The guys did show out from the hockey team and our friend Charlie Kirk. He acknowledged the grief and the pain of those who have suffered losses from the Democrats' radical policies on crime and the border. That was smart and honest. And the speech appearing to be a big success, a CNN poll finding that 64% of viewers

had a positive response to the speech while showing a bump of 10% among viewers on whether Mr. Trump's policies would move the country in the right direction. They point out that that poll tends to be overweighted toward the party of the man giving the speech because those are the ones who tend to tune in. So with that asterisk, even the polls are showing a big and successful night for the president. Right here, President Trump at his best, making Republicans look good and very, very effectively making Democrats look bad. So tonight I'm inviting every legislature to join with my administration in reaffirming a fundamental principle. If you agree with this statement, then stand up and show your support.

The first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not a legal alien. You should be ashamed of yourself, not standing up. You should be ashamed of yourself. That is why I'm also asking you to end deadly sanctuary cities that protect the criminals and enact serious penalties for public officials who block the removal of criminal aliens. In many cases, drug lords, murders all over our country, they're blocking the removal of these people out of our country. And you should be ashamed of yourself.

You know who Ilan Omar reminded me of last night? that Tourette's syndrome guy at the BAFTAs on Sunday, like incapable of controlling her foul mouth. You had people kill. You killed people in Minnesota. She should be censured. She should absolutely face discipline in the House as a result of this. This is what, this is far worse than what Joe Wilson did back in 2009 when he had the temerity to yell, you lie at President Obama. That's all. He yelled, you lie. And I was there. We all melted down like this was the greatest breach of decorum we had ever witnessed in our lifetimes, we meaning the political class. She never stopped heckling him. Truly, it was like the guy at the BAFTAs.

Yelling, we talked about this the other day. Fuck you. Go fuck yourself at every turn. And some worse things than that. That's her. She looked at it and thought hashtag goals. President Trump made the case that America is on a new winning streak. It's a very optimistic speech, very, thanks to his leadership, of course. And to make the case, he brought out perhaps the most popular people in America right now, at least among us normies. Our country is winning again. In fact, we're winning so much that we really don't know what to do about it.

People are asking me, please, please, please, Mr. President. we're winning too much. We can't take it anymore. We're not used to winning in our country until you came along. We're just always losing, but now we're winning too much. And I say, no, no, no, you're going to win again. You're going to win big. You're going to win bigger than ever. And to prove that point, to prove that point, here with us tonight is a group of winners who just made the entire nation proud. The men's gold medal, a little. hockey team. Come on in. Wow, what a moment. Good for those guys for showing up. I was worried for them because when I heard

that they were going to go, I thought the odds of these guys ever having sat down and watched an entire state of the union are very slim. They're extremely busy. They're world-class athletes. And these things tend to be kind of boring. And most people just want to watch the highlights the next day. So they probably don't know, I was thinking, that they're getting themselves into at least a three-hour affair sitting there with these ridiculous people on Capitol Hill as the president wanes on and on and on. And they were way ahead of me. They decided, obviously, Team Trump, to just have the guys parade in, be honored, and parade back out.

I mean, you know, each one of these guys is incredibly hungover. All we've seen of them since they won on Sunday is video of them, swill and beer, getting bought drinks. they're having the time of their lives well-deserved. I'm sure that's not how the weeks and months leading up to the Olympics looked. And that was smart. They came in, they received their honor, they turned around, and they probably hit Old Emmett's in Washington, D.C. for a few late-night beers. There is a lot to unpack, including more disastrous moments from the Democrats.

And then there's Virginia Governor Abigail Spamberger's official response. Abigail, you know, Epigale, Epigail, Abigail, as when some Sears kept calling her in that debate, it's all I can think of when I look at her now. Although we did think of one other thing, courtesy of Margo Cleveland or the Federalist. We'll talk to you about it.

But to kick us off, we're going to bring in some of our favorites, Tom Bevan, Carl Cannon, and Andrew Walworth of Real Clear Politics. Their show now airs live on the Megan Kelly channel on Series XM 11 live every morning at 11 a.m. Eastern, there are lead-in on the live programming.

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1995. Go to Relieffactor.com or call 804 relief. Break up with pain and get back to what matters. Guys, welcome back. Great to see you. Good to be with you. All right. So, so much to go through from last night. I thought it was, let's give it a grade. I give Trump an A because he didn't get nasty. He had a couple like, you, these people are crazy, but he stayed in good humor. He was self-deprecating at times. He made some jokes at times. He didn't go after the Supreme Court in the way that he could have, you know, like I kind of expected him to in personal terms. And I thought he did a great job with the personal story. So they always do this at the, at the state of the union. But these, I thought, were especially memorable and very effective and very dangerous traps for the Democrats in the hall. Your thoughts, Tom. Yeah, I gave him like a B plus, a minus. It was a partisan speech. No question. I mean, he was a couple of times, he just turned to the Democrats. It's your fault. You made a mess. I'm cleaning it up. I mean, he was pretty direct in that sense.

But he also, he did, it was heavy on these engaging moments with these great characters. Some of them tragic, some of them heroic. You just showed the hockey team. That was a great moment. But it was light on policy. I mean, you know, Bill Clinton used to give

hour-plus long speeches, but it was just like a laundry list of policies and your eyes would glaze over. I hate the state of the union. No one wants to hear that. I only watched it because we're coming on your show to talk about it because I told the guy I'm like, I just want this thing to go away. I heard you.

Yeah. I heard you at your show. But I actually, I stayed fairly engaged with it. It didn't seem as long as an hour, you know, 40s. I kind of trailed off at the end. I was like, okay, we're getting there. But it was the stories that kept me sort of involved in the characters. And I think that his speech writers did a great job of crafting it in that way.

And so I, again, I thought, and to your point, Megan, pretty good humor. There was a lot of positivity in America winning. and he stayed on script pretty much, which that's sometimes when he starts doing the weave and gets off. So all in all, I thought it was a well-crafted event, well-crafted speech, and well-delivered. How about you, Carl? Megan, I'm stuck with the great I gave him about half an hour ago,

which was a C-minus. A C-minus. I have two. All right, you guys know me? Megan knows me. I like facts to be correct. He had the wrong. He said that the,

woman that killed the poor Ukrainian woman was an illegal immigrant led in by Joe Biden's lax borders, but that wasn't right. He's a homegrown maniac. And the speech is just too long. It's two hours. People have things to do. So C minus for me, but I will say one thing. He did make me laugh a couple times. Tom's right. He can be entertaining. That thing that you, that clip you played about, you're getting sick of winning. It finally dawned on people. Trump's joking there and he's being he's making fun of himself it's kind of it was it was a highlight for me yes yeah yep me too I laughed out loud at it and it was it was poking fun at himself like in his you know you're gonna get so tired of all the winning right which was something he said back in 16

and here we are 10 years later and he's the president of the united states again and joking around about it and obviously he means he means to do it as a way of yes promoting his own agenda but also like having a bonding moment with the people at home like I get it I'm in on it let's all have a little laugh. What'd you think, Andrew? I gave it about a B-plus, and I tell you what I was watching, I was thinking how it would be clipped together afterwards, how would appear on social media, and there I thought it was brilliant, because those stand-up, sit-down moments, each one of those will be repeated on social media, and they just sort of reinforced the idea that maybe the Democratic Party is not the party of Normies. So I thought those moments were so well-crafted.

with that in mind. There also wasn't any moment that I saw, which I thought would make a great ad for the Democrats. There wasn't anything he said that really stood out as a huge gaff. He stayed away, as you pointed out, from attacking the Supreme Court. So, yeah, B plus. My only criticism, I guess, is that it's too long, just like Carl said. I mean, I would like these things. I think Tom said the other day, they should be a half an hour, and people should to be polite. That would be a deal that I think we'd all make. Or Tom was advocating we'd go back to the letter right now. That's what he wants. Yeah, my deal. Mail it in. I'm not for that. I like the speech. I think it's important. Well, no president would ever see the opportunity to have all of the

nets on him for two hours, right? It's like all the broadcast nets, all the cable nets, not to mention everything happening online. It's a great opportunity to get your message out there. Just the day before that, Trump was having the angel parents, parents who had lost children or, I guess not just parents, but family members, to illegals at the White House and was honoring them. And they didn't cover it on CNN. They didn't cover it on MSNBC. Of course, the broadcast networks didn't cover it. Only Fox and News Nation took it. So this is a great chance for him to say, I'm going to tell some of those same stories, which he did. And now you're going to have to listen. You know, you're my captive prisoner. So that's, of course, why they all will do it and no one would ever abandon it.

I thought his use of the individual stories was extremely effective because oftentimes they'll put people up there and, you know, they're mildly interesting. You're kind of like, oh, that's sweet. But you're not like, whoa, what's happening? Who's that? What's that? Who's that guy? Like the gentleman who came out, hold on, I don't have his name memorized, but man, he was, he was amazing. The guy who led the Maduro raid. He was incredible. So he comes out there, hold on a second, and his chief warrant officer, Eric Slover. And this guy took a beating in going in on that Maduro raid as the lead helicopter.

And Trump called him the leader of it, and I think maybe one of the architects in the planning of it. And this guy is straight out of central casting when you think of who do I want fighting for me as an American? You know, like if you're the coach and you get to pick your teams, this guy, Chief Warrant Officer Slover, would be your number one draft pick. You know, he's like, you look at Jock O'Willink and the Navy Seals, and you look at this guy. Here's a bit of that last night, SOT 13. Chief Warrant Officer 5, Eric Slover, planned the mission and was the flight lead in the cockpit of the first helicopter while preparing to land enemy machines.

guns fired from every angle, and Eric was hit very badly in the leg and hip, one bullet after another. He absorbed four agonizing shots, shredding his leg into numerous pieces. Then even as he was gushing blood, which was flowing back down the aisle, Eric maneuvered his helicopter with all of those lives and souls to face the enemy and let his gunners eliminate the threat, saving the lives of his fellow warriors from what could have been a catastrophic crash. I would now like to ask General Jonathan Braga to present Chief Warrant Officer Slover. Again, straight at essential casting. And guys, on Twitter they were talking this morning, X, about this guy. There was one gentleman who knew him, and I think had served with him, who said he is literally the last one who would

ever want to be recognized, but the first who would deserve. it. And another guy was pointing out that all those little marks on his right forearm on his uniform, maybe we could show him, again, you guys even just roll a B-roll. Each of those is a combat mission. They got even the Democrats standing on this one, Carl, which is interesting because, you know, the Maduro raid is controversial, but they knew you do not sit down when Slover is getting his honors. Megan, you're just trying to get me to raise my grade. That's what you're doing. Okay. I'm not above it. Okay. C. Now that, you know what? Look, that was it. That moment gave me chills. It was very emotional. I thought it was, I don't, I don't know what the per, I don't know if that's what should be in a state of the union address. I think Ronald Reagan's device has gotten a little out of hand, but it was a, he's a hero. And that, and the president is trying to show people that we still have heroes in this country. They still, they still do what they're supposed to do. And it was a great moment. I can't say anything else. It was really moving, Tom.

I mean, I looked at that guy and I thought that tracks, right? That this guy, he didn't look like he was enjoying the attention exactly, but he would do what his commander-in-chief asked him to do to show up there and be part of this evening. Yeah, no, he looks like exactly the kind of person you want defending our freedoms, you know. Look, part of this is, and I think this kind of gets lost because we do conceptualize the state of the union as, okay, it's going to be a list of policies and what the president's going to do. And Trump talked a little bit about this,

but this was an advertisement for America. It's our 250th birthday. I mean, he talked about, you know, it was a display of how great America is and can be and the people that make it so. The hockey team, the soldiers, the veterans, and the awards were part of the pompant circumstance of that. I think this was, it was a special

state of the union. And I think Trump visualized it that way. And that's what we got. And then when you think about it in that context, it was fantastic. I mean, there was just a lot of America happening. I just want to amend what I said, not a combat mission, a combat deployment. Right. I counted just my quick squinting there, 10, 10 combat deployments by this guy. I mean, it makes you feel like you've wasted your life, right? It's like, good gracious what that guy has seen. And there is a guy, Dan Parker on X, who posted that thing I mentioned. There's no one on earth who wants the recognition less, and there's also no one on earth who deserves it more. I've flown alongside Eric for 18 years. We grew up in Army Aviation

and in the 160th together. We've been brand new, I don't understand all the abbreviations, but a bunch of military posts along the way. He is the consummate, quiet professional by the grace of God and the skill of the greatest team on earth, he's still with us. Eric, I'm proud to have fought alongside you and even more proud to call you, my friend. Nightstalkers don't quit. So good. I mean, Andrew, like, it is not easy to get your opponents who hate you, who won't stand for virtually anything, to stand up and clap for your mission to Venezuela to capture Nicholas Maduro, which they definitely opposed.

But it's exactly this kind of man, Eric Slover, who could make you do it. Yeah. And I'm also wondering whether the R&C is going to. got his, um, him on speed dial right now trying to figure out what district he's in, he's in because someone, someone's looking at him saying,

wow, that, that guy's got a political future if he wants one. I don't, I have no idea. Does he sound like Mark. But I think they, they also,

uh, he also got them to stand up for banning stock trading by the, uh, uh, in Congress. So, I'm into that. So there was a,

there was another moment where he got them to stand up. That was the one that made me laugh out loud. And for the hockey team. Yeah. And the hockey team. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well,

the hockey team. Oh, A team was also interesting, given the controversy that these far-left weirdos have tried to create around them trying to, you know, rain on their parade. And even the New York Times rating, oh, they gave us such a moment. And then it stopped. Then they took it away because they allowed Trump to call into the locker room. And they allowed cash Patel in there. So they ruined everything. Well, even the Democrats knew. Get up. Get the hell off your seats and stand up for these guys. Or it's going to be, it's going to come. you the midterms. And they did. They did on that one. But I do want to talk about that Pelosi moment. I mean the insider trading moment. Same thing. Here's Trump talking about this ban that's

been getting kicked around. And amazingly, you know, while they'll stay on camera, they'll stand for it in the hall saying like, oh, yay, we want to ban insider trading by any elected leader or their family members. It's having an awfully hard time actually making it through. So behind the closed doors, when it's time to vote, they don't actually want to do it. But here's that moment. As we ensure that all Americans can profit from a rising stock market, let's also ensure that members of Congress cannot corruptly profit from using insider information.

They stood up for that. I can't believe it. Did Nancy Pelosi stand up if she's here? So she says she did stand up, but it's so good. Good, right? I mean, just to refresh myself, I went back and took a look at the specifics of the Pelosi claims. And here are a couple of stats for you. She's one of the richest people in Congress. As a first-term member in 1987, she had $600,000 in stock holdings. Her husband, Paul's trades became so lucrative over the years. They spawned a cottage industry of copycats, reports the New York

Times. There's even been a Pelosi tracker app that clocked all of his trades so that people could get in on what they clearly knew was insider trading information that Pelosi had passed him. Over the past three years, he's reported a trade volume of $56.9 million. Pretty good increase from $600,000 when she first joined Congress. Josh Hawley has said Nancy Pelosi has outperformed the S&P 500 by more than double in 2024 alone. And here's a couple of other things, okay? Her husband's timely stock trades have occurred around legislative activity time and time again and made them millions. He trades stock of companies affected by the legislation that Pelosi is pushing.

Pelosi did initially oppose a ban on lawmakers trading stocks. This ban would prevent the lawmakers, their spouses, or their children from trading stocks because, obviously, we're talking about unethical people who would insider trade. And so if you can't do it, but your kid can do it, everyone knows what Nancy Pelosi is going to do. She's going to call up little Alexandria, whatever her name is, Alexandra, and tell her what to trade. Same as she clearly did with her husband. So when she was first asked about this, she said, no, it's a free market. You know, like basically, why would I support that? And then everybody started taking a closer look at how she got so rich.

And now she's been dragged kicking and screaming over to the side of, okay, I'll stand and I'll support the ban, Andrew. Well, yeah. No, I think this is one of those reforms that's, if it's not 80, 20, it's got to be 99 to 1 among American people. But you're right. I mean, both parties are guilty of doing this and it's wrong and it should stop. We'll see what happens. I think that the time may come for this to pass. I was struck, too, by all his economic reforms sort of weren't, not. of them were sort of the sort of robust Reaganist sort of green shoots, you know, unleashed the economy kind of stuff. They were all sort of aimed at tamping down commercial activity and felt very sort of socialist in a sense, I'd say. What do you mean? What do you mean?

Well, I mean, you know, the idea that stopping big banks from buying homes, which really has no effect on, but that sort of anti-bank, the sort of, he's anti-pharmaceutical, the idea that tech companies will have to build their own power sources. These are all sort of command and control economic measures and not the kind of thing that I thought he would be talking about. I don't know if he is fully free market. We know he's not free trade,

but his justifications for those, I thought, were very good. I mean, he was pointing out how these energy companies come in and they run up the electric costs some 20 percent. And why should anybody other than the companies, the tech companies, are doing that? Why should anybody other than the tech companies have to pay for any of that increased cost, like infrastructure improvements or so on? On the pharmacies, it's like that was the most favored nation stuff that, you know, that's sort of a bipartisan issue now.

I think even Republicans have realized that the cost of prescriptions. and drugs is out of control. We do nothing about it. So it's like, why should the people in Europe be paying one-tenth of what we're paying for our drugs that we manufacture? That just seems fair. And on the Black Rock thing, why do you say that, why do you say that doesn't affect the cost of homes? When you have a company like that swooping in a neighborhood, buying a bunch of homes up, how can a regular Joe, just starting his family, compete with Black Rock for a home? Well, two things. One, it's a very small percentage of the amount of homes that are bought and sold that the company. It's about 1%, I think, of all the sales. So it's a minor part of the market. And the other thing is that, well, you know, just as a free market guy, there are people actually who are selling their homes as well. So why would you deny a seller the opportunity to sell to the highest better? You know, someone's ox is going to be gourd. Whenever you try, to mess with free market forces,

there are unintended consequences. And I think the unintended consequence of something like this might well be that it actually makes it harder for people to sell houses. It interferes with the way the market works. It's kind of what Mom Dani wants to do in New York. I don't want those big banks in the housing market personally. And I think Trump definitely has a protective strain in him, Tom.

I mean, for sure, we've seen that. But we had no protective strain for far too long, under people like Bill Clinton, and we lost all of our manufacturing jobs as a result of it. Yeah. I mean, look, Trump is not a traditional, you know, free market, free trader, which has been the Republican Party for 40 years. He's, that's not, it's never been his mindset. And that's part of why he got elected in the first place. And so that's part of the tradeoff with Trump. He does have some tendencies where he's, you know, gets awfully close to or sympathico with Elizabeth. And that makes a lot of Republicans nervous. But back to the Nancy Pelosi thing, if I could just say, I mean, that was my laugh out,

love my wife and I were watching. I turned to her and I'm like, did you really just say that? I could not believe it. Look, the stock trading ban thing, it should be a no-brainer. And as you point out, Megan, like, everybody's rah-rah for it in public and then in private, it's like, why didn't this pass then? I mean, how hard is it for Congress people to put their whole whole? put their holdings in a blind trust, a truly blind trust,

so they can enjoy the fruits of the market as it goes up, but without having any sort of back doors where they can do stuff that's considered illegal or unethical. They should not be able to profit from insider information, which a lot of them have. They sit on these committees. They see a lot of the stuff coming before the public sees it coming. And so that just, it makes total and complete,

again, it's another common sense measure that for some reason we can't seem to get done. But, you know, Trump being for it, I think, might push it over the finish line. We might finally get something that the American people, as you said, like 90% of the public is for it. That'd be nice. I think most of the public also understands that there has been massive fraud in Minnesota and that it has been perpetrated overwhelmingly, almost entirely by the Somali-born community there. Just as a stat, They are so far 82 of the 92 defendants charged for this fraud per the U.S. Attorney's Office in Minnesota.

Okay, so 82 of 92, I think it's fair to say this is a Somali problem in America. So the president got into this. He announced a war on fraud. And this is where Ilan Omar got super exercised and started screaming at him. That's a lie. And more. Watch. The members of the Somali community have pillaged an estimated $19 billion from the America taxpayer.

We have all the information. I am officially announcing the war on fraud to be led by our great Vice President J.D. Vance. The Somali pirates who ransacked Minnesota remind us that there are large parts of the world where bribery, corruption, and lawlessness are the norm. Not the exception. So he said Somali pirates. J.D. Vans and Mike Johnson start laughing. They cut to Ilan Omar, who's just looking distressed in the audience.

But she was yelling, that's a lie when he said they've been plundering America. There's no more stunning example than Minnesota where members of the Somali community have pillaged an estimated $19 billion, billion with a B from the American taxpayer. Well, here again, the federal prosecutors say it is at least nine billion up to 18 billion. They said they're still trying to determine just how much of that remaining nine billion was part of this same Somali fraud scheme where they used these 14 Minnesota programs meant to help people but abuse them and didn't help anybody other than lining their own pockets

for fake programs involving nutrition, housing, and autism research. Remember that one? It was all bullshit. And that's just scratching the surface, as Trump said, because the, But the fraud went well beyond that. If you want to go back a couple of years to COVID, they're looking into that now at the federal government level, not just in Minnesota, but in many states. But there's nothing he said that was false at all, Carl. And this was a moment I would suggest the president welcomed. Yeah, I agree with you. There's two things about this story that I don't understand when it comes to Ilya and the first, well, the first, I don't understand why she would defend this.

I think, to me, she ought to get out in front of it and she ought to go back to her community. and she has to say, we're better than this. We don't want to be known for this. We need to root this out. You need to help the government. She's not acting, like, to my mind, like a member of Congress who's protective of the Treasury, but rather like an agreed minority who feels she's being singled out. And I don't think that's the right move because this fraud is real.

The other thing, looking, and I don't think it's just going to be Somali in Minnesota. I'm in California this week. And I can only imagine the fraud that's been going on here. and that these stories are starting to come out. But remember this, Megan, years ago, when I first started an immigration issue, people who wanted to become legal immigrants had to sign that they would not be a burden on the taxpayer. It wasn't that they were eligible for poverty programs, but the expectation was you sign a paper that you wouldn't do it. You would work.

You had to take these pledges. You had to have a job. a plan. And somewhere along the line, that just got thrown out. And these Somalis who came to Minnesota as refugees, their country was just in a terrible shape, they went on the dole immediately. And they apparently encouraged to do so. And apparently that's common across the country. And I wonder when we got away from that ethic. Because we never had a conversation about it. No president ever talked about it. We never said, okay, we're taking. And no citizen would have a vote for it. That's right. And it wouldn't to be a popular thing and it would it and i'm talking about legal immigration and and so during the

biden administration we went from that new norm where legal immigrants are expected to be able to you know go on welfare and take other poverty programs too then illegal immigrants are also allowed to do this this was this was a bridge that i mean no nobody ever voted for that and i i don't understand how we got to this place and i think that i think defending it makes the democrats look makes them look bad. But can I just say, Carl, part of the problem, the reason she's defending is because she's tied up in it. I mean, let's not let the Democratic politicians in Minnesota in particular, but in any of these other states, off the hook. I mean, Tim Walls, Keith Ellis, and all these folks, because the Somali community became a powerful voting block. They were funneling this money back to politicians in the forms of contributions.

And oh, by the way, anybody who criticized this was labeled a racist. And so nobody wanted to do that. And so they looked the other way, while they, this went on and ballooned into this extraordinary scandal. And so she has to, I think, say, you know, instead of saying, look, we got to get to the bottom of this. She's saying, you know, well, it's not true. Trump's a liar and he's a racist and try to deflect because I think the truth is she's received contributions and she's had her picture taken with a lot of these people that are now on trial. The, um, the, the, the, the, the, the, Ilan Omar moment was capitalized on by her. She did it for effect. She wanted her little viral moment to look like a badass. And she

posted a clip of herself during the State of the Union yelling, you've killed Americans. Here it is in SA8. Permanalties for public officials who block the removal of criminal aliens. In many cases, drug lords, murderers all over our country. They're blocking the removal of these people out of our country and you should be ashamed of this. Okay. You guys, you were there. You remember 2009. You lie.

Joe Wilson was admonished by the house. As a result, we were all shocked and horrified in the political class that somebody would do that at the state of the union. She was, she did it over and over and over. She was desperate to get that clip so she could post it. And then brags about it. Do you tell me, Tom Bevin? Is she going to be admonished by the house?

Are they going to be as outraged? about this as the left was about Joe Wilson? Look, you would hope so. I mean, but I think there's probably a double standard. I don't know that Mike Johnson is going to push this the way this is, unfortunately, I think this might be the new normal, you know, that that particularly when it comes to Trump, that Democrats just think that they, you know, it's okay to mix it up with the President United States in the middle of the State of the Union address.

Again, not too long ago, that was considered a brief, a brief. a horrible breach of decorum. And now it's like, not only are they not ashamed of it, they're bragging about it and raising money off of it. Well. And Joe Wilson did it one time. He yelled out one time. You lie.

That was it. It was over. She was a heckler. She was Don Rickles out there last night, Carl. Yeah, well, the thing is that I don't think Mike Johnson should do anything about this because the last time he censured a Democrat for bad behavior was Adam Schiff. And they got him elected to the Senate. So I, maybe it would.

I think it was his lies that got him elected to the Senate, his many lies about Trump and Russia. Right. But what if they censor her and she decided she's going to run for the Senate in Minnesota, then where will we be? Yeah. Yeah, 2009. I mean, that just can't happen. 2009 was a long time ago. I agree with you.

We were so cute back then. Yeah, but it was a long time ago. I think this is the new normal and I just think it continues. And I think if anything, it gets worse. Speaking of so cute, my daughter, who's only 14, she just kept saying that about Mike Johnson. She's like, he's just so adorable. He does have a very nice face, you know, like he has just the right amount of smile on for Trump's quips and just the right amount of serious. And his tan tie grew on me. First, I was like, who wears a tan tie?

Nobody wears a tan tie. Certainly not to the state of the union. But it had a little sparkle in it. I think it had a little sheen. And over time, I kind of fell in love with it. It was like kind of a bold fashion move. I really like Mike Johnson. I know he's controversial, but you really will not meet a more affable person on Capitol Hill. I was funny you say that because I turn to my wife and I'm like, Jady's tie is just like this much too short. He just needs it to come down to the belt buckle. It was.

And it's a blue tie. And I love the baby blue tie. I think I have the same tie, but it was just a little too short. Just a smidge. Yes. And what else? As somebody who's got a mild touch of OCD, Trump's hair. when he walked into the chamber.

You can still see it a little here, but when he walked into the chamber, it clearly got messed up by the part, right above the part. And I was like, some woman needs to do him a solid and just, you know, pat it down, like lick the fingers and pat it down.

I was saying that same thing. And as he was like, being a germapho, I'm sure he'd love that if someone reached over and did that. Oh, well, just pat it at least. I'm like, Amy Cody Barrett, Elaine Kagan, it's up to you. He's almost on stage.

Can you imagine if a lady cake? That would have been awesome if Kate was in a moment. Right? No one did it. They let him go out there with a little bit of a mess. Mr. President, I would have had your back. I've touched his hair before on camera in an interview. So I would not have been shy.

Someone should have done him that solid. Very sad. So on immigration, can we talk about the moment that we played in the intro where he said that the first duty of the American government is to protect American. citizens, not illegal aliens. And he said, please stand if you agree. I mean, that's like an open trap, Andrew, right? Like, do it. Stand or don't stand? There's really no good way out of this for you, Dems, because immigration enforcement is so hot and it's so controversial right now. They didn't stand.

And I do think there's a risk because, yes, I know the Democrats at home are like, right on, don't stand, Minnesota. But those pesky independents, who also have been watching Minnesota, I don't think that they would find that statement inherently controversial. And I do think that could wind up in a few ads as we, you know, treads forward to November. Yeah, no, I had a sort of thought experiment. What if someone had stood up, because the applause, you had to cut the applause. It was about a minute of applause there during that thing. What if about the 32nd mark, a couple of them had sort of stood up reluctantly and started to clap and, you know,

give them the sort of like, you know, that golf clap kind of thing. I think that would have been a powerful moment for the Democrats and would have shown that, yes, you know, we can be bipartisan on this because it was, in some sense, it was such an obvious trap and they fell into it so hard. And then the fact that it was a minute long really sort of gave it the power that, so I just wonder if the Democrats could have played it differently. But that would have taken someone with some presence of mind and some independence.

And I don't think that's where the caucus is right now. I think that they're pretty much, as you saw, in lockstep. And they've decided that this was going to be the way they were going to handle it. I think it was wrong. I think they should have stood for that. Well, Hakeem Jeffries had ordered silent defiance. Which apparently, Rashida Talib and Ilan Omar did not get the memo. And I don't know how they work it.

Maybe you know, Carl. Like, is there, like, follow the leader? If Hakeem stands, everybody stands. If he remains seated, everybody remains seated. Or is it an individual judgment call? And they just kind of know, you got to stand for the hockey team, but we're not standing for virtually anything beyond that. Megan, they know.

They don't need Hakeem Jeffries to tell them any. I love Andy. He's as naive as I am sometimes. But any Democrat who would have stood for that would have been primaried, like tomorrow. So that's just not where the party is. Yeah. Can I just say, too, we did a national poll a couple of weeks ago, and then we just had a poll come out in Pennsylvania.

And the data on this remains pretty clear. The public is they don't like what they saw in Minnesota, right? On this chaos on the streets, they think that ice went too far. But when you ask people, do they believe in abolishing ice, still a vast majority of folks, 58, 60% say, no, they do not want to abolish ice. And abolish ice used to be sort of a fringy position for Democrats. And now it's sort of a main, much more of a mainstream position for Democrats. And that could get them into trouble because people don't, they don't want to see chaos in the streets,

but they also didn't like seeing chaos on the border. And they don't like seeing, you know, these stories in the news about people who are here illegally of committed crimes. They also don't want to see KKK come out of one of their, elected representatives mouths when the entire chamber is chanting USA. Rashida Talib is a national disgrace. She clearly did it. Here's the video in SOT 19. Everyone's cheering USA, USA. Look at her. KKK. This is a sick person. This is a sick person. And by the way, speaking of which, Trump just truthed out the following message. He wrote, Okay, hold on.

When you watch low IQ Ilan Omar and Rashida Talib as they screamed uncontrollably last night at the very elegant state of the union, such an important and beautiful event, they had the bulging bloodshot eyes of crazy people, lunatics, mentally deranged and sick, who frankly look like they should be institutionalized. When people can behave like that and knowing that they are crooked and corrupt politicians so bad for our country, we should send them back where they came from as fast as possible. They can only damage the United States of America. They can do nothing to help it. They should actually get on a boat with Trump-deranged Robert De Niro, another sick and demented person with, I believe, an extremely low IQ, who has absolutely no idea what he is doing or saying, some of which is seriously criminal. When I watched him break down in tears, I've got to show you that clip.

Last night, much like a child would do, I realize that he may be even sicker than crazy Rosie O'Donnell, who is right now in Ireland trying to figure out how to come back into our beautiful United States. The only difference between De Niro and Rosie is that she is probably somewhat smarter than him, which isn't saying much. The good news is that America is now bigger, better, richer, and stronger than ever before, and it's driving them absolutely crazy. President Donald J. Trump. Wow. Everybody's shaking their head, no, for different reasons on this panel.

What I was thinking, he doesn't even drink. It's all natural. Yeah. I mean, in that way, Mike Johnson should not move to punish, admonish, Talib, or Omar, because this, they wanted it in a way. Right.

Like they made fools of themselves. How is it bad for Trump or team Republican to have Rashida Talib saying KKK while the chance in the chamber were USA? She's so inherently unlikable. I'm sorry, Rashida Talib is disliked. I look at her and I think you're a disgusting fool. All the shit she did after 10-7, she was basically ready to go sign up for Hamas. It was very clear to me. And Elon Omar,

the same. I mean, she's worse. She married her brother. She's a Somali fraudster leader. She doesn't seem to have any problem with all the billions of dollars that have been stolen by her people from her state. So there's no downside to Trump in sending out a truth like that. And we'll get to Robert De Niro in a minute who is crying too much. for somebody who started in the Godfather. Tom? Yeah, look, I was thinking about this, you know, there is this, and we saw this on display last night, and that clip just accentuates it. I didn't even see that last night, the KKK thing. But there's, there is this sense that, you know, Republicans are proud of the country for what it is

and what we do and what we accomplish in our history. Democrats only seem proud of the country when it's, you know, parts of it are being changed to their liking, when aggrieved classes or victims are being celebrated. And that's a real difference in viewpoint. And I think it's, I think it was really on display last night when, you know, again, we talk about the people that were honored, our military, the Olympians, like it was a very American, a celebration of America. and Dems could hardly rouse themselves out of their seats for any of it.

And it's just because they don't see the country in the same way that Trump presented it last night and that I think most Republicans see and are proud of. I remember this is what I was thinking about. After 9-11, if you remember, there was some gnashing of the teeth in the media and we got these think pieces because everybody had put out American flags, right? Everyone. And there was like some liberal folks who said, you know, It made me uncomfortable.

There's too much jingoism in the country. And that, that to me, like that unity and solidarity that comes with patriotism, it makes Democrats uncomfortable, unfortunately. Mm-hmm. I think I've told a story before, but we have a friend from Argentina. And he was at our beach house on 4th of July last year and could not believe the number of American flags that people had out on their houses during the summer. in the lead up to July 4th, it's extra.

But, you know, every neighborhood in America pretty much does it. He was like, I've never seen such a thing before. Like the way you Americans take pride in your country, this is incredible. He loved it. And of course, then we had our colonial party with everybody wearing the colonial outfits and took it next level. But yeah, you're right, Tom. And I think Trump's very into masculine energy. You know, the Democrats are into more feminine energy.

And I don't mean that, you know, as a disparagement of, women, but I'm just saying he's like strong, robust, aggressive, winners. And Democrats are more like, soft, you need hugs, everyone's a victim, mommy's here. And I think the country's in the mood, and still, even though Trump's numbers are going down for that sort of masculine winning energy. Stand by. More ahead. Quick break with the RCP guys next. Our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition says Washington politicians are always getting in your wallet, and now they're messing with your credit card. They say you're credit card and the security offers are under attack and that Senators Dick Durbin and Roger Marshall

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So I'm going to go back to U.S. hockey because there was a particular moment with the goalie, Connor, Hellebuck, who was just a stalwart of that game. And most of the guys, would tell you the main reason we won. Just a brick wall. Nothing got past him. And President Trump was very impressed with him. By the way, I've actually been at an NHL game with President Trump. He was just Donald Trump at the time. But the guy is a genuine hockey fan. I can speak to that personally. The audience knows I don't know anything about sports, but I do get occasionally dragged along to them by my husband. And Trump's big into NHL hockey. So in any event, you could see his respect for Connor was genuine. Trump loves a winner. He was.

really does. He loves a winner. He loves anybody who's the best in their craft. He respects it. Even if they're opposed to him, he respects it. So he gave Connor Hellebach the presidential Medal of Freedom, which he pointed out, has been given to 12 other athletes, guys like Muhammad Ali have gotten it. And so this was really an elevation of him to, you know, vaunted status. And we actually did a little deep dive onto, into Conner's background. Listen to this. He was not like a child prodigy. He was a child prodigy. He was a was more in like the Tom Brady camp where nobody really saw him amounting to much and then, you know, like until somebody did. And then there was no stopping him. But listen to him on his,

this little bit from SportsNet on his origin story. Sot 4. Coming out of Wald Lake Northern High School in Michigan, Connor Hullabuck's hockey path was as clear as Texas crude. Undrafted in every junior league and not a single call from any NCAA school. He loves it! His only option was an invite to camp from the North American Hockey League expansion, Odessa Jackalows. Craig Sarnert, who was a scout, calls me, and he says, okay, I found you a goalie. I said, who is it? He said, Connor Hellebuck.

So we go to the computer and type his name in the computer, and he's not on there. I mean, he's not on the top 500. We don't even have to draft this kid. No one even knows he's alive. I really didn't know where to go. I don't know how to continue to play, and I just knew I wanted to. Right after the draft, they called me and said, hey, we want you to come out to Maine Camp. So that gave me a little hope.

And I told myself, I'm going to make it no matter what it takes. And he did. And now as a national hero, standing there, getting the congressional, the Presidential Medal of Freedom. A very cool moment, guys, right? I mean, like the stagecraft of that, very nicely done. Even you have to admit it, Carl. The grade is the inch of back up. Can I hear a B-min?

This guy, he gets an A plus. Think of that, Megan. That's the quintessential American attitude. I'm going to make it in a matter what it takes. And if you watch that game, I guess you didn't. But he made some miraculous saves. I did. Yeah.

I did. Every once in a while I'll watch him. That second period was so amazing. I was at a hotel, Megan, in Los Angeles. And there was a Canadian at the bar drinking beer, like at 6.30 in the morning. and guzzling beers and rooting very loudly for Canada. I didn't begrudge him that. That's his own country.

And he said, we're dominating this game. Why isn't it four to one? And it was one to one. And I remember thinking, you know, the Americans, I think we can pull this out because, you know, in sports, Megan, as in life, if you let somebody hang around and hang around and hang around and they're determined enough, they can prevail. It's a great American story.

I don't give Donald Trump the credit. Did you lean over and whisper, Connor Hellebeck. It's Connor Hellebeck. That's the reason, sir. I'd never heard of him, Megan. But then when he had that save, I turned to the guy and said, what'd you think of that? And he says, I was a hell of a save. So.

Yeah, you got to give it. I mean, he is another example of that sort of strong masculine energy, you know, that I think Trump responds to. It was one of the things I think got Trump elected. It's not, I'm not just talking about like, I'm going to say controversial things, you know, that are going to upset everybody. I'm talking about like being bold, being brave. being unapologetically a striver, you know, somebody who pushes for excellence, who masters their field, who, you know, gets ahead just by sheer will, determination, hard work. Like, that's all very, very American.

Trump loves it. It's one of the things, I think, subliminally, that makes us love Trump. And I saw that theme in the guests that he honored last night. You had Connor. And then we've got to talk about the Coast Guard, Scott Ruskin, the member of the Coast Guard. Remember, when these girls were hurting at Camp Mystic that those terrible floods went through and killed all those little girls, not to mention others in the region. And this guy came out of the sky like an Adonis, like some sort of actual angel sent from heaven. Like, what's the word?

Not parachuting, but when you go down on the rope from the helicopter. Repel, thank you. Like rappelling down from the heavens. Saving over 140 people, including the little girls. girl Millie, and they made a moment. He, he too, just like Eric Slover, straight at a central casting. Here was that moment in Sot 5. 11-year-old, Millie, Kate McCleamond, closed her eyes and prayed to God. She thought she was going to die. Those prayers were answered when Coast Guard Rescue Swimmers Scott Ruskin descended from a helicopter above. Nobody knew where he came from. It was Scott's first ever rescue mission, a young guy, but very brave, very, very top, always top in his class, and he lifted not just Millie Kate, but 164 others to safety.

Tonight, Scott and Millie Kate are here together, reunited for the very first time. Thank you, Scott, Millie Kate. And Petty Officer Ruskin, I'm pleased to inform you that I am now awarding you the Legion of Merit for Extraordinary Heroism, which is what it was. Extraordinary heroism. Thank you. So great. Okay, Megan.

Just exactly the kind of guy you want to see. Yeah. C plus. Go for it. You know, as you're talking about. The extra credit always good. Yeah, that's right. Well, and also, Megan, you know, you got me thinking about something that I wasn't

thinking about last night. So these stories are, they seem isolated. some way and some of them were partisan. They illustrated a particular policy point he was making that the Democrats couldn't stand for because they don't believe in that policy point. But there was a bigger picture there, as I see now. Franklin Roosevelt called it, I think, the can-do spirit of America. And that's what, that's what, and that's not necessarily just masculine, but it is, in this case it was, but he's, he's portraying a country that still can do great things and has great people. And it's the, it's the answer to people who are all wringing their hands and

talking about America's sins and faults. And so in that sense, I, I, I, it was effective. Yes. Wait, I got another one for you. And then I'll bring you guys in as well. We've got to talk about our 100-year-old Navy fighter pilot, Royce Williams, who has done everything. I mean, he was in World War II. He was in Korea. He was in Vietnam. He flew these secret missions that Trump was talking about, which apparently were largely kept a secret even by Royce from his wife up until more recently. And now, of course, he's a hundred years old. So it's like, now or never. And he had Royce sitting with the first lady in the first lady box. And she, flawlessly, as she does everything, pinned the medal on. I was like, only Melania could like in the perfect suit with the

perfect hair and the perfect close-up on her 55-year-old skin. She looks stunning. I was like, few of us could withstand a close-up that close that they kept doing on her face, but she's Melania Trump. She pinned it on perfectly. It went on just right. And it was such a sweet moment when he honored Royce Williams, who, no, he's not young and robust, but it's another badass story spanning the generations. He loved, Trump loves military heroes for all of his bones for issues and all that. He loves and respects the military. And here is a bit of that in SOT 14. In disguise over Korea in 1952, flying through blizzard conditions, his squadron was ambushed by seven Soviet fighter planes. Despite being massively outnumbered and outgunned, Royce led the takedown of four enemy jets and almost destroyed the others, vanquishing his adversaries while taking 263 bullets to his own plane and being seriously hurt.

His story was secret for over 50 years. at 100 years old, this brave Navy captain is finally getting the recognition he deserves. Royce, please stand up, and I will ask the First Lady of the United States to present Captain Royce Williams with his Congressional Medal of Honor. I teared up a little bit at that one, you guys. And let me just give you a little addendum. Okay. Royce Williams enlisted after Pearl Harbor in 1941. For 35 minutes, he and engaged solo in an aerial dogfight with seven Soviet-MIG pilots, downing at least four jets before escaping to land his heavily damaged F-9F-5 Panther jet on a U.S. aircraft carrier.

His aerial heroics have been a legend for decades among pilots coming up through the Navy's top gun school. He is the real-life Maverick who lives in like respect, forever respect and heroism status, within top gun as a result of that incident that was recorded in Soviet Union military history. But no trace of his daring flight on November 18, 1952 exists in the U.S. military archives. Like I said, he didn't want it. He kept it a secret. He didn't even talk to his wife about it. The fact that it happened and he made it happen was enough for him. But as he ends the, you know, it gets near the end of life. People are thinking about how they can pay tribute to this guy.

and asked in 2022, when Joe Biden was the commander in chief, how it would feel to be awarded the Medal of Honor now, Royce Williams took a few seconds to consider his answer. Quote, if it happened, I'd be awed. I wish my dad could know. It would mean even more to my friends to know that I finally received it. All of his friends are probably gone, long gone. Of course, his parents are probably gone. Of course, his parents are. long gone. Virtually everyone he grew up with and fought in wars with and participated with and who made him the man he is is probably gone. And President Donald Trump said, Royce Williams, you're getting your honor and not just any honor, but the highest honor you can get, the Congressional Medal of Honor. I'm sorry, but if that doesn't move you, you have no heart. Tom, that is one for the storybooks. Yeah. No,

for sure. And I mean, it was chilling last night. And then even watching it now, again, you get chills. The stories of heroism and bravery are spectacular. And they are the best of us. And that's why Trump highlighted them. And we recognize them. Can I go back to the hockey team for just a second? You talk about masculine energy, getting your tooth knocked out and then skating around with a bloody mouth and scoring the winning goal. Teeth. Yeah, I mean, talk about an iconic photo of him with, like, the flag draped over and with a, you know, smile and he's missing, he's missing his main tooth. That guy's a stud. And you talk about, like, the 1980 team and Mike Rizzioni and all those guys. Oh, my gosh. I mean, so those guys are going to go down in history. And it's nice that Connor

Hellebuck's going to get an award. But, and apparently, as Trump told the story, they all said, you know, raised their hands immediately and said, yeah, he should get it. But what a remark team. The other thing, you know, Trump complimented the Canadian team about what a good team they were and how tough they were and but we prevailed. So, but the other stories are just remarkable as well. And as I said. And Trump also pointed out that the women's team has accepted an invitation to go to the White House. So good for them. Yes, yes. And that was obviously the they were. They were. Megan Keller. Go Megan Keller. I just hate it when when politics invades, sports. Sports is like, I grew up playing sports. I played sports in college. There's my Princeton football helmet right there. And I loved the fact sports is the purest meritocracy there is. It doesn't matter what color you are. It doesn't matter what religion. None of that matters. It matters.

Are you good? And if you're good enough to play and you can help the team, you're on the field and you are a brother or sister with everybody else who's out there working toward a singular goal. And that's what made this hockey team great. I mean, these guys were not the best players in the world, but they played together as a team and were able to achieve their goal.

And that's what makes it such a great story. Yeah. I think also, I mean, the degree to which the hockey team themselves have kept this above politics is noteworthy as well. I think that they've really sort of framed this all, as a political thing, but as they're proud to be Americans, they're proud to be invited by the president, and they're proud to... Yeah, but it's the media that does it too. Yeah, but, you know, it's the disgusting sports journalist. I didn't quite realize how disgusting leftists,

the sports journalism industry was. I should have just assumed, but since I never read those articles, I wasn't totally tuned in. They're the ones who laid all these traps for these athletes and who had the most negative takes on everything the athletes did, especially this hockey team. F those guys. Keep going in. Well, I was just going to say on the Korean warfront, people should take this as an opportunity to think a little bit about the Korean War as well. People don't think about it that often. But it is interesting. Just people should note that the aerial war in Korea was really between the Soviet Union and the United States. And it doesn't get that much coverage. But it really was U.S. and Soviet pilots facing off in these dog fights.

And it's a remarkable story. And this is obviously a very important chapter of it. But the entire story of the aerial war of the Korean conflict is worth... But imagine this guy, having laid it all on the line, having risked his life, having taken down four Soviet Miggs, legend at Top Gun, not talking about it, not telling his wife about it, but secretly when asked, you know, just a few years ago, so he must have been, what, 96 at the time,

what would it be like to get, you know, a mess? Oh, gee, you know, it would mean so much. I'd only wish my dad could see it. Of course, then Joe Biden didn't give it to him. But President Trump does it. And he, any sane human is deeply moved by that story and by watching that happened. And yet here was the Democrat reaction. Okay, here is Democrat representative Robin Kelly on a YouTube channel where they were having state of the people, the state of the people and live reaction to what Trump, was doing, look at this abomination. I was there. I was there. And it was

as horrific as I thought it would be. Did you leave early? Absolutely. It was like an award show. You get a medal. You get a medal. You get a medal. That's literally Moj just said, you get a car. You get a car. Y'all are on the same page. That is so disgusting. She wasn't the only one. Look at 35, CNN. Abby Phillip. But he utilized almost like these game show type moments where you're seeing awards being presented to really bring these moments of togetherness that otherwise might not have been

there. Game show. Fuck her. I'm sorry. That enrages me. That deeply enrages me. She's never done the uniform. She's never risked her life for her country.

Did she ever repel out of a helicopter and save 146 people? I don't remember seeing that. Did she bring down four Soviet migs over Korea after having fought in every war during the course of her lifetime? I don't remember that. Did she even make a U.S. gold-winning sports team of any kind when the odds were stacked against her and the score was tied and all the pressure was on and save the team from certain defeat? She's never done anything. She sat in that fucking anchor chair. That's all she's ever done.

or she called a game show. How dear this representative Robin Kelly, thank God, no relation, mock the Medal of Honor as it's like the Oprah. You get a medal and you get a medal. Perhaps we should have waited longer, Robin, you know, to like when poor Royce was 200. Maybe that would make you happy. Like the nerve of these people, and I just have one more I've got to show you because I listen to The New York Times, the Daily podcast. I like to keep my finger on the pulse of what the left is saying and doing. They did it in a more clever, tricky way, but the message was exactly the same.

Listen here to the chief Washington correspondent, David Sanger, speaking with, I think was Michael Barbaro today, SOP 36. I'm curious, David, as a veteran of State of the Unions, and also as someone who's covered military affairs in your day, how you thought about all of the military awards that the president bestowed during this speech.

I tend to think of those as awards typically given in solemn, much more intimate ceremonies. This is the most public, possible venue, a president's state of the union and thus has a bit of a partisan tinge.

A Purple Heart was given out. Congressional Medals of Honor were given out. Was that celebrating American heroism? Was that in some ways exploiting it? I think there was an element of showmanship and an element of exploitation to it as well, because what he was doing was combining the experiences of these people in just wars, World War II, you know, and so forth. Korea where we were fighting for a nascent democracy and managing to try to merge that with what many would argue were less clear uses of American power. And potentially even illegal.

and potentially illegal, and we're headed to that debate about Iran, for sure, if you went ahead. So this is sort of taking the Ronald Reagan idea of putting prominent guests and heroes in the State of the Union audience and moving it to the next level by awarding them these medals in front of the entire Congress. Yes, it would have been much better if we had hidden them. into private medal ceremonies that no one other than the core military brothers would have been allowed to see. That would have been much better for Royce Williams and for Eric Slover and for Scott Ruskin to have no one see them receive these honors. These incredible feats of courage should have been dealt with behind the scenes so that they couldn't actually be appreciated by

the American public. Do you see how insane that is? Carl, I ask you to speak for these moronic journalists. Yeah, I will. What David's Singer is, he's specifically thinking not of the guy, a hundred-year-old hero, but he's thinking of the pilot who, you know, led the raid that got Maduro. He's thinking, okay, we're going to venerate this guy so that maybe you won't think about Maduro and his wife are in a prison in New York and, you know, who's running that country. And oh, and by the way, Trump did volunteer that we've stolen $100 billion of their oil.

That was just so leading with his chin and nobody said anything about it. I think David Sanger's point is right. Trump's not dumb. He's making, he's trying to get support for the military. And so you have to cheer this hero. And maybe you won't notice over here. But I don't know, you know, you have misgivings. Tom is literally moving in his CDK.

You see what I have to deal with five days a week, Megan, do you see this? He's a lot, Tom. It's a lot, Tom, Evan. Sometimes it's two-on-one. I mean, I just got to battle with these guys. I love them. I love them.

My brothers, but, you know, I think I should get a battle. You should be getting a purple heart. Yeah, because, look, there's no accident that Carl seized on David Sanger and tried to zero in because that was the least offensive of the three. But it was, in a way, the most offensive because it was the largest platform. Right. It was in the New York Times. Times Daily Podcasts, which is a huge podcast. And he's laying the foundation for all the other leftists to object to the metal giving.

It should have been done in private. That's how Michael Barbaro set it up. Normally, this has done in a solemn, much more intimate venue. This was much more public. That's a dumb thing. A celebration of American heroism, you know, was it, right? But it's like they objected. You know, why they objected?

Because it led to applause to the Trump administration. Because in Trump's presence, Andrew, people were applauding. They appreciated that he pinned the medal on Royce Williams, and they didn't like it. The New York Times didn't like it. This creep Robin Kelly didn't like it. And neither did Abby Phillip, who doesn't like anything that reflects well, I'm sure, on the military, but certainly President Trump. Yeah, I love Carl like a brother, but I totally disagree with him on this one. I mean, this is just Trump. I like to disavow Carl. This is just Trump derangement syndrome. That's all it is. If any other, if a Democratic president had done this, they would have no problem with it whatsoever.

Exactly. And they would never use the word exploitation to attach to it. And I find, I mean, you know, I find it offensive what Sanger said, at least in this regard. I mean, there was some real heroism in Vietnam, whether you agree with Vietnam or not. But those Vietnam veterans, we finally have come and it took too long to honor them for their effort on the part of the country, even if you disagreed with the war. most people, I think 99% of Americans view that the Americans who serve there and served honorably are heroes and deserve our support and our respect. And I feel the same thing about any military deployment. These guys and women who go out and do this are serving our country. And whether you agree with the policy of the moment or not, they deserve to be honored for their effort and their sacrifice. And that's all there is to it. I cannot, I cannot believe that saying or say something Game show. It's like Oprah.

Like, why don't you sit there and say, well, deserved? Wow. So proud to be an American. How is that not your reaction? Go ahead, Tom. No, I was just going to say, I think there's just this different mentality and different lens. Some of it has to do with Donald Trump and just TDS in general.

You know, it's like anything he does has to be demean, discredited, discarded, all of that. But there is this broader sense that, you know, celebrating. these folks is is somehow inappropriate or maybe because they think that, you know, the state of the union, you know, is, should be above that or beyond it or whatever. But it's also, look, Robin Kelly is, she's a congresswoman from the state of Illinois. She's running for Senate here. She's in third place. She's probably not going to win, but the primary is a couple weeks away. I mean, these folks are all, there's a, and this goes back to the Ilhan Omar stuff. I mean,

there's just a sense of like, you know, if I'm shown to be fighting against Trump, if I'm, if I'm shown to be standing up to him, uh, in any circumstance, that's a badge of honor. And that's, that's going to, you know, help them with their individual races or with raising money or with their stature with the base of the Democratic Party. Because that's where the Democratic Party is. I mean, they just are blinded with rage about Donald Trump to the point where they can't even acknowledge these examples of, of heroism and sacrifice, with. without, you know, falling into these kind of traps.

It's remarkable. These Republicans should put all of that in an ad. All three of those examples should go into an ad. And it should get played on loop. These are the Democrats. This is how they view our American heroes. They didn't have the reaction of tearing up. They wanted to tear it down.

That's what they saw somebody like Royce Williams and wanted to mock the moment as a game show. That is so incendiary. but it dovetails perfectly with what we saw earlier in the speech when he was going through because Trump did the masculine energy heroes and so on. But he also did people who had been victims of left-wingers and or their policies. And that was equally moving in its own way. First and foremost, I'll start with Erica Kirk, who was there. She was in the first lady's skybox. It's not a skybox at the U.S. Capitol, but she was in the first lady's box.

And it was an interesting thing because Trump mentioned Erica and called her wonderful and she stood up and the Republicans were standing for her, understanding full well that they may or may not know Erica. I think they are getting to know her, but this is about Charlie. And they were clapping for her for Charlie. And then the Democrats did not stand. And then Trump said there should be no political violence. And they did stand. they knew they had to stand for. I mean, like, there was no way they couldn't stand for that.

But Erica Kirk was a bridge too far, apparently, because they've decided to bastardize Charlie's legacy and say he's a racist and so on. So you can't, like, I guess you can't stand for a grieving widow. Is that, I'm not sure exactly what was going on there. But there was that moment. Here I'll show it. It's not 10.

I'm very proud to say that during my time in office, both the first four years, and in particular, this last year, there has been a tremendous renewal in religion, faith, Christianity, and belief in God. Commendous renewal. This is especially true among young people, and a big part of that had to do with my great friend, Charlie Kirk, a great guy, great man. So last year, Charlie was violently murdered by an assassin and martyred, really, martyred for his beliefs. His wonderful wife, Erica, is with us tonight.

Erica, please stand. Thank you, Erica. This is amazing. Erica looks at the woman next to her, who we later find out, is the mother of Irina Zeritska, the Ukrainian refugee, who was killed on that train and says, love you. This is, Erica always does that. She's constantly telling everyone who supports her, I love you.

She's told me, she loves me. I've told her I love her many, many times. We talk regularly. She's holding it together. but man, this has been a very, very rough five months for her. And the fact that the president honored her in this way and honored Charlie was, it spoke volumes. No matter what you may hear about Erica Kirk, the president loves her. J.D. Vance loves her.

And I love her. And she's doing very well in keeping it together and forging a very rough battle and keeping a massive organization together and now being a new single mom and just missing her husband. You know, the first year, you guys all know, we've all probably lost somebody in our lives. The first year is always the roughest. You know, you got to get through the birthdays and Christmas and we just had Valentine's Day. You know, I mean, all those things we all forge on with our lives after we pay our condolences. And people have the tendency to forget the person who's back there grieving still and really hurting.

So I was thrilled to see Trump invited up. It seems like so long ago, but it was only six months. I mean, it's only been six months. It's really remarkable when you think about it. And in the way that she, not only when Irina's mom was, when Trump was talking about her story, and she was standing and she was not holding it together, she was crying, sobbing, and Erica was in frame, just put her hand on her shoulder and was saying, God bless you, and was just trying to comfort her.

That was really, that also got me. I mean, she's a pretty remarkable woman. Me too. I mean, just to see the two of them up there, I mean, both, the surviving victims of a terrible, terrible crime. And what's interesting, too, is that Irina was killed the day before. It was the day before Charlie. Charlie was killed on September 10th, and it was a Wednesday. And I think Arena was killed, she was killed this Saturday before. But we were talking about, I remember we had a panel of great guests. We had Megan Basham.

We had Allie Beth Stuckey. We were talking about Heather McInty. Donald, we were talking about the crime against Arena on this show that Wednesday that Charlie died. And it was a great episode. It was very in-depth on poor arena and the crime problem in North Carolina and the soft-on-crime judges and DAs and so on. And then we got off the air and Charlie was shot and came back on the air. And so to see Charlie's widow and Arena's mom, like holding each other, comforting each other, oh, my, it's like too much to bear. But, of course, you have to understand the stagecraft of it too. you know, somebody had to think about it and make that decision on Team Trump and what a wise move it was.

Wise move for the women and wise move for giving us the moment. And the arena Zerutska thing, it was crazy that the Democrats did not stand. I don't, I genuinely don't understand why they did not stand. Like, who would be in favor of a criminal who killed Arena, a Ukrainian refugee? Here's the moment, and it's the one that really, like, I think Trump had genuine disgust at the fact that they sat here. Sot 11. Last summer, 23-year-old Irene was riding home on the train when a deranged monster who had been arrested over a dozen times and was released through no cash bail stood up and viciously slashed a knife through her neck and body. No one will ever forget.

there were people on that train. No one will ever forget the expression of terror on Irene's face as she looked up at her attacker in the last seconds of her life. She died instantly. She had escaped a brutal war only to be slain by a hardened criminal, set free to kill in America, came in through open borders.

Mrs. Zaretska tonight, I promise you, we will ensure justice for your magnificent daughter. How do you not stand? How do you not stand? Motioning to the Democrats, that was genuine disgust on Trump's part. How do you not stand? Well, he had blamed the Democrats for her death. And I, you know, I don't know if they knew what to do. But, but, you know, why didn't they, why not stand for Erica Kirk? By the way, Megan, I don't know if you know, we, we give this prize, the real clear foundation does. It's called the Samastat Prize to Heroes of the First Amendment. And we awarded it to Charlie Kirk and, well, to Erica on behalf of Charlie Kirk this year.

And, you know, he was, among other things, a champion of free speech. He was, you know, he was killed exercising his First Amendment rights. And it's why he was killed because he was willing to speak on college campuses. To me, every American should mourn the death of Charlie Kirk. I don't care what your politics are. You know. Absolutely right. Again, last week, I think it was, or maybe the week before, I was asked to moderate an interview

with Joe Abraham. And Joe is a, he's an angel father. His daughter, Katie Abraham, was killed a year ago in January at, in Champaign, Urbana. She was down there visiting French. She was 20 years old. And a guy who was in the country illegally rammed into her, the car she was in at 80 miles an hour, they were at a stoplight. She was killed instantly. And part of what we talked about, he's become an activist now. And part of the reason he's become an activist is because he could not get J.B. Pritzker, the governor of the state of Illinois, to respond to him in any way. And he was at a congressional hearing in June of last year. J.B. Pritzker was there. Kathy Hokel was there and Tim Walsh was there. J.B. Pritzker walked right by him, feet away, never acknowledged his existence. To this day,

has never spoken Katie's name, never even a word of condolence. And I asked him, I said, why is that? It would cost him nothing to just say he could still be for all of his policies, but why can't he turn to you and just say, I'm really sorry for your loss? He hasn't done it. He won't do it. And nobody knows why. There's something about Democrats and like there's all this compassion for the Renee Goods of the world, the Alex Pretties of the world. But for the people who are killed, the Lake and Rilies of the world, there's no compassion going in the other direction. and I don't understand it because it really wouldn't cost them anything.

And to not do it is it's like it shows their inhumanity. It's inhuman. Yeah. The guy who murdered allegedly, we all saw with their own eyes, arena, De Carlos Brown, had been arrested 14 times in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina before the stabbing, with criminal charges dated back to 2007. It was a team of Democrats that kept putting them back out on the streets. That's why they didn't stand.

Right. They didn't stand because they know full well. It was basically an indictment of their own soft on crime policies. And while Trump did then ad lib in that the guy was an illegal, which was incorrect. He was not an illegal. It doesn't change the facts, which is this guy was on the street able to kill because of Democrat policies. We went through it in great detail at the time it happened. And just to make clear, she was killed on, I think, August 11th or in August, or was it 22nd, August 22nd. It didn't remember the videotape didn't hit until the week. that Charlie died. That's why it became a controversy that week. Remember, it was all like, wait a minute, this didn't just happen. But it was amazing to see those two next to each other. And what a sad confluence of events. And President Trump is, he is changing the way we approach crime. And he definitely is calling attention to political violence, having been the victim of it himself, having seen one of his close friends Charlie Kirk killed in the name of it. And it's another thing he doesn't get credit for. You know, I mean, he does speak out about that stuff. He's

pretty vocal on it, and he's leading the charge. And whether it's a strongly worded true social post, or it's him at the lectern, shaming the Democrats for not standing for a crime victim and basically making them promise to do better, that using that soapbox to call attention to these issues is important. Okay, I want to talk about some of the other Democrat reaction, because that was the infuriating stuff. Then there's the fun stuff where we saw inflatable costumes. We saw lots of profanity. And I've got to show you the Robert De Niro crying thing, which I'm dying to get to. All right, standby because we've got to do a quick break, and then we come back with you guys from RCP. Maybe you've seen those red light panels that are all the rage now. Well, this is totally

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They're crazy. We're lucky we have a country. With people like this, Democrats are destroying our country, but we've stopped it just in the nick of time, didn't we? Okay, let me just show you Caitlin Collins' reaction to that, Sot 34. But these moments as he was in there, and at the beginning, obviously, getting started, he was largely looking over to the left side of the chamber where a lot of the Republicans were sitting. Then he began looking at the right side as Democrats, obviously, were not standing for what he believed should be applause lines during his speech.

And he was getting increasingly irritated by it. At one point, stopping and saying, these people are, I can't believe they're not standing for this. Yeah, oh yeah, he was increasingly irritated that they wouldn't stand for it because he really needed the accolades. That's not what it was. He couldn't believe that they wouldn't stand and clap for these basic principles of here's Irene's mom who's in tears a Ukrainian refugee killed by a criminal here in America. And she's crying and you're sitting. Here's Erica Kirk who's crying and you're sitting.

And now here's this young girl who was having some gender confusion who basically got stolen by the state of Virginia, the Commonwealth, away from her parents who were in the dark completely about what was being done to her. And only far late in the game did they even find out when they were about to lose custody of this girl for not affirming. It was crazy that story. And Trump's saying, we've got to stop this. You can't take kids from their families, from their parents over this issue. and they wouldn't say. It's a disbelief on the president's part, like on these basic principles.

But we saw time and time again the Democrats would not stand. And outside the chamber, Tom, we had even more absurd behavior by these guys. I don't even know which one to start with. Maybe we start with tough woman, Congresswoman, Maxine Dexter. She's a Democrat from Oregon. She really wanted the crowd at like the counter programming event, which is like the people state of the union.

to know she was tough and she's defying Trump and his authoritarian project and take a look at who was with her. It's not 28. I'm a mother. I'm a physician and I have a flag. It's a bunch of inflatable frogs. And I am the proud representative for Oregon's third congressional district. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. And tonight, I defy Trump and his authoritarian project by standing in a and joyful, radical, peaceful resistance with the Portland Frog Brigade.

Oh, my God. Yeah, so. These are not serious people. No, it's, well, so it looks silly, and it is silly. But David Marcus, who's a contributor to Fox News and who I follow on X, said, he's great. He says, reminder that the Portland Frog Brigade is literally Antifa. I saw them in action on the ground.

They wear the costume to evade being identified and to pretend to be playful and wholesome. They are neither. So a little bit, when I first saw this, and I'd seen the fraud, you know, the stuff going on in Portland, but I didn't make that connection. And so it's a little less, you know, silly and goofy and crazy. Yeah, and joyful. She's in joyful, you know, opposition, whatever. But yeah, and we talked about this a little bit on our show, like the juxtaposition between the State of the Union and that venue and the Joint Session of Compton, Congress and all of that. And then you switch over and you've got people dancing wearing frog costumes and the guy in the giraffe. I mean, it was it was insane. I mean, it was crazy. And yet, that's what, that's what, at least part of the Democratic Party, that's where they are. This is where they play on their flag. Exactly. We had the frogs. Here's the giraffe that you mentioned. Some guy named Robbie Rhodes. I mean, he was nuts. Decide to put on a giraffe costume. But he, they had him. Here he is. Watch, so 29. I've been arrested three times by ice over a

absurdity, over us being ourselves, over me, singing songs like, hey, Mr. Tangerine, man, get rid of brown people for me. I'm airy and white. There ain't no place I'm going to. And then all of a sudden, he's not ready for primetime player ice agents with two weeks of training come after me. I got arrested in Portland. I got arrested in Minneapolis

in the last three weeks twice. Okay, we've seen enough. But they can't. Robbie Rhodes Steamer. That's his last name. Robbie Rhodes Steamer. I saved that one for you, for you, Andrew.

I thought you'd want to weigh in on the dignity of the Democratic counter program. Well, I played that clip on our show as well because it's so outrageous. I mean, I like political theater. I'm for. I think that peaceful, you know, a little bit absurdity is not a bad thing. He wasn't very good.

I guess that was part of the problem. And he should be arrested. He should be arrested just from how he sings. Yeah. I mean, so it's not clever. It's not smart. It's not really fun. It's not on key.

Yeah. I'd give this a D, frankly. I thought that. Who says they're going to counterprogram with Robbie Roadsteamer in a giraffe. costume following the inflatable frog act. I mean, this is the state of the Democrats. While on the other Zoom call, they're ripping on the Medal of Honor winner. Great, terrific, great job. Inside the chamber, you know, they're shouting, you kill people and you lie and all the things. And then you've got Joy Reid, who was the master of ceremonies of

the counter-programming event at the People's State of the Union, speaking of terrible singing. Sat 25. Just try reading some other. You did amazing. You did amazing. Yes. You get an A.

You get an A. I don't give grades, though. We just go on vibes, and the vibes were immaculate. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you very much. Of course she doesn't give grades. She doesn't believe in grades because she's a failure.

She's the opposite of all the guys that Trump showcased winners, right? I don't do grades. I just do vibes. We give them here. We've been doing it all show. It's an F, madam. It's an F on every level. Carl, care to defend?

No, I can't defend. them. We got it. I won't even try. Actually, Megan, there's a serious point here. And people can have demonstrations. They can have counter-programming. They do anything they want.

But there's a serious point here. And I remember that the day after Trump's inauguration, there was a rival inauguration. You know, pink pussy hats or some ridiculous. I can't even. Wait, let's pause it there. Let's pause it on the P-word from Carl Cannon. We're coming back right after this. Yes, we're not done.

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Okay, so you were, yeah, that's right. You were responding, Carl, to the ridiculous clip of Joy Reid singing and failing and making a comparison to the women's march with the infamous pussy hats. Right, right. So that was really a rival inauguration. And I wasn't covering it, but I was supposed to give it talk down that day. So I was found myself literally got off the subway in the middle of it, surrounded by millions. Well, not millions, but you get the idea. Anyway, but there was one woman, college age, young woman, 20 years old.

She had two buttons, one on each lapel, and one said, imagine a world without misogyny. And the other one had a picture of Trump with an extradson, not my president. And we're on that thing where you're crossing a street and you almost run into the person and I stopped her. And I pointed to her button. I said, that one, good. That other one, that's not right.

he is your president and and she kind of i think she oh boy i'm no she kind of appreciated it she she didn't travel in circles where she was hearing this and but but this has been for 10 years now almost going on 10 years he's the president and there's this idea of a segment of the democratic party and a segment of progressive america that they that they don't have to accept him as their president that's what's manifest manifested by these rival you know rival state of the union events. And I don't think it's healthy for our country. I think if you vote and you lose, that's a person still your elected representative. He's still your senator. He's still your governor. Still your president. And I think this is a dangerous thing that we're doing. So I look at those events

and they can be funny and people have a right to do it. But I think it's a bad precedent. Wait till President Vance gives the state of the union. Oh, my gosh. I mean, listen, if you're a Democrat and you're going to do this kind of stunt, you don't do it with frogs in a giraffe felon or whatever that guy. I don't know how many times you'd been arrested. You, if I were running it, I'd get a couple of my maybe most prominent Dems, maybe not the 2028 crowd, but like the most prominent ones. Chris Murphy's never seen a camera.

He doesn't want to put himself in front of. And I would parade a couple of, like a parade of people hurt by Trump's policies in front of them, you know, like some farmer who's upset about the tariffs, something like that. And just go through it one by. I won. This is how Trump's hurt America. Like, whatever, you're going to do it. Do it in a way that actually might move voters, not with the freaking inflatables. I mean, it's just, I felt like I walked into some weird non-binary sex party. Furies. Okay. Can I get in the Star Wars bar scene? Yeah. I have a solution to the state of the union.

I'd like to run by you guys quickly. And that's, what if everyone had to stand for the entire thing? So there were no chairs. So you couldn't stand up and sit down. Here's a trade-off. You couldn't play that game. You just had to stand for the whole thing. But would that also mean maybe it's a little shorter because people like don't want to stand for that long? I like this.

This is an excellent idea. I mean, the president had to stand the whole time. Right. And he's one of the old-oose ones in there. If he can do it, everybody else can do it. I like that, Andrew. I'm going to submit that in the suggestion box. I got one more on Joey Reed before we move on.

Classy, as always, here she is, top 24. Attention to all Maga Trolls. And with apologies to the pastor who gave the invocation, your bullshit is not welcome here. And to paraphrase one of my favorite actors in the world, Robert De Niro, I'm going to slightly paraphrase him. Fuck y'all. We're here to hear the truth and to hear from impacted people not to see or hear from you. So go back and pay attention to your orange lying friend. I mean, that's rich coming from the Democrats who infiltrate all these Republican town halls

and hijack them, what they've been doing out in Minneapolis, with cops just trying to make arrests, the nonstop harassment. They couldn't take a couple of pro-Maga folks yelling a few lines at them. I mean, take it up with Ilan Omar inside the chamber, screaming at the president of the United States. Like, pathetic. All right, I've got to talk about the following person. Who am I talking about? let's play SOT 21. This is the introduction to our next topic.

Abigail. Abigail. Abigail. Abigail. Abigail. Abigail. Abigail. Abigail. Abigail. Abigail. Abigail. Abigail. It's all I can think of whenever I say Abigail Spamberger. My daughter's name is Abigail. Abigail Adams, too. Come on, she tried to ruin it, Tom. Oh, I know. I know. She tried to ruin it, but she failed. Abigail gave the rebuttal, the little scene, little talked about rebuttal for the Democrats, and the reason it's a little talked about is because it sucked.

It didn't move the needle at all. I suppose she didn't, like, fall down drooling, so that's a win. I'll just give you a taste of what she sounded like. Sorry, but I must. Sot 20. Our president has sent poorly trained federal agents into our cities, where they have arrested and detained American citizens and people who aspire to be Americans. and they have done it without a warrant.

They have ripped nursing mothers away from their babies. They have sent children, a little boy in a blue bunny hat, children too far off detention centers, and they have killed American citizens in our streets. And they have done it all with their faces masked from accountability. Okay, if we had an honest snopes, all of that would be fact-checked, grossly out of context. But okay, this is all I can think of now. I saw it, and now you guys are going to have to see it, too. Margo Cleveland of the Federalist with a rather clever tweet.

I don't see the Dem's response going well. As Abigail Spamberger's been in a bad mood, ever since her middle school classmates tagged her with the nickname Snowmiser. Kids can be cruel, accurate, but cruel. That's why she never wears hats. None of this appears to be true. It was just a clever little, like, take from Margo. And our crack producer, Jake Whitman, put the following together. Watch. Mr. White Christmas, I'm Mr. Snow. In November, I won my election by 15 points. I'm Mr. Ten below.

Friends call me Snowmiser. Whatever I touch. Turns to snow in my clutch. And we won 13 new seats in our state legislature. I can't unsee it now. Look at them. Yeah, I see exactly where Margo was going. Is Abigail Spanberger really the future of the Democrat Party? Because typically you give that job to someone who you see as a contender. And I mean, I would venture to say, Andrew, not it. No. Well, we talked about this on our show. I thought it was an interesting choice that they chose her to do it because her brand is that she's more moderate than a lot of the Democrats right now.

And so I thought it was a conscious choice to try to do that. She's not, Carl will know more because he's a Virginian now, but she's not sort of running the state as a moderate. No. And so, but I will say this about, about, she was in, in front of the flags for her states. She looked gubernatorial at least. She wasn't in some strange setting. Like her kitchen?

Yeah, and that's a good thing to get through these responses without it making much of a ripple. That's the best you could hope for. Most people have done this. A lot of people have done this, and it's sort of been bad for their political plan. I'm thinking of... The Katie Britt one two years ago. Marco Rubio with the water. It's horrifying.

There are a couple others. So those are the ones we were. remember this one will be forgotten and it should be and that's a good thing for her politically. Yeah. I don't think Abigail Spamberger has any shot at national politics at all. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Charismalist. Well, but think about this. Think about this, Megan. I don't think the Democratic Party is ever going to have a ticket with two males on it again. I think they're going to bounce that. They're always going to have a man and a woman.

That's, I think, the energy in that party. So then you start to think about. whoever the nominee is, Andy Bashir, Gavin Newsom, whoever it is, who would they pick? And then you start to come up with a list and Gritchin-Whisman's on it. Now Abigail Spanberger's on it, but it's a pretty short list. So I wouldn't rule it out. Okay. You're very smart when it comes to politics, so I won't rule it out. But I still have to put my money on no.

Because I watched her in that gubernatorial debate, and she was terrible. She was so bad. The reason when some Sears in her defense kept saying Abigail, because it was like she wasn't even there. She wouldn't comment on any of the controversial issues. Yes, it was a winning strategy. That's because the Commonwealth was over the Republican governor, Glenn Yonkin, who we loved, but who they hated. And a potted plant with a Democrat sticker on, it could have won that election. So it was not because Abigail Spanberger had some superior skills.

It was because she had the right party ticket, and it worked for her. And on the national level, you cannot get away with just standing there, saying nothing about the trans issue. Like, it was crazy what they let her get away with, but that's Virginia for you. Enjoy your new state, Carl. You thought you were going from, like, the People's Republic of California to something that was more, you know, slightly, slightly moderate. No, not anymore. Okay, I want to spend our last couple of minutes on media. Okay.

Stand by. What's, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, we got to get to David Muir and Jonathan Carl. ABC News covering the president's state of the union. As he walks in, no one would fix his hair, but they were shaking his hands. And listen to this blunder, these two made. And I will submit to you, there's a reason they made this blunder, which they then had to correct. SOT 32.

Freeze was seated. We just saw the president, obviously, shake the Chief Justice's hand. There's Justice Elena Kagan, Brett Kavanaugh. Amy Coney Barrett. Of course, he chose Amy Coney Barrett for the bench. She was one of the justices who did not vote in his favor and did not shake her hand there. Did interact with the Chief Justice, but then with none of the other justices. And John Carl, this was a question for the president today, but it was clear to us at the White House that he didn't quite know how he was going to handle the justices when he got there tonight. Yeah, interesting, that shake, very quick shake with John Roberts, and then going to do that.

right by Amy Coney Barrett, who he put on the court. Choosing to interact only with the Chief Justice. But Trump felt particularly betrayed by the justices that he put on the court that ruled against them. All right, these little drama queens. Here's the video. He shook everyone's hand. Everyone. Here's the Chief Justice. He did shake Elena Kagan. Here goes Brett Kavanaugh.

And there's Amy Coney Barrett. All of them got their hands shaken. to the point where they had to come back on the air and say this in SOT 33. But we should point out as he walks in, he's pretty close to the justices again as he comes down on the floor, that he did shake their hands there this evening. There were a couple of shots that they showed, one of them making it very clear, that not only did he shake the Chief Justice's hand, but the others who had gathered there, including Amy Coney Barrett,

who did not rule in his favor on the tariffs, though he did appoint her to the court. Oh, they thought they had such a juicy, moment. The president's snubbing his own appointee. No, that's not what happened at all. And they should be embarrassed. Clearly, they had to come back on the air and correct that because a producer got in their ear and said he did shake the hand of every justice of every justice who was there. The chief justice and the other three associate justices all got a handshake. Even the leftist, Elena Kagan. So he embarrassed himself. They both embarrassed himself. And they loved it. They saw what they wanted to see Tom, and they gave them a chance to lean into a negative narrative about Donald Trump.

Isn't that always the case? And the apology comes two hours later when the audience is probably a third of what it was when Trump was coming into the chamber. You know, it's like they put out the tweet or the post and it gets 10 million views and the correction comes, you know, hours later and it gets like a thousand views or something. I mean, it's just, it's the same thing over and over again. But clearly they wanted that in their minds, right? They had, had already had already had this narrative. And that was one of the things. We talked about a little bit earlier.

Trump actually was very restrained, I think, to his credit in terms of the way he dealt with the court, he was very cordial with them on the way in. Totally. He didn't attack them. He called it unfortunate, I think, the ruling, but didn't attack them personally. And so I thought he actually handled it much more

deftly than most people, including all the media. They were all hyped up for him to attack the court. He didn't do it. Yeah, me too. I actually predicted that he would attack them because, you know, he had. So he's not, like, afraid of doing it in somebody's face. But, you know, he went with decorum to his credit on the night in question and handles himself quite well. And it's amazing to me because those two clearly wanted their little catty moment of, ah, ha, ha, he hates and they hate and see, it's all falling apart, the Supreme Court. And they hate him now, too. And Trump blew it. And he's such a jerk. He didn't shake the hands. And he did shake the hands. even though his own justices whom he appointed Gorsuch and Amy Coney Barrett, at least, were two of the three. I was reliably informed. I was reliably informed by the media for months at the court was a rogue institution corrupt. Right.

And of course this will gain them no, no chips in the bank with the left anyway, Tom. You know what I mean? Of course not. They did. Three conservative justices decided with the liberals to strike down Trump's tariffs. And do you think this is going to make the liberals be like, you know what? but maybe we don't have to pack the court or, you know, dissolve it or what, no, they won't give them any credit. They'll paint them as just a group of partisan hacks like they always do.

All right. And now we end with the peace de resistance. This is the thing I've been promising, all show, and the real reason I had to hold you guys over to get to this, Robert De Niro. And we've all seen Robert De Niro go in his foul mouth rants about Trump now. Like, that's been happening since 2015 or 60. But we haven't seen him crying. with Nicole Wallace over Trump. Now, we did check. He was at one of these events, these counter-programming events last night.

We do not think he cried last night. It could be wrong, but we did a quick check. We didn't see that last night. I think Trump was referring to this clip. I'm about to show you when he talked about Robert De Niro crying. I'm going to play the longer version of you guys.

Let's watch SOT 44. You're always about lifting up everybody around you, everybody. Yeah, of course. Why is that? Is he? You have to. You have to lift people up. Why?

You have to bring them together. Period. You can't divide people. You can't win that way. It's a no-win situation. And look what we have. Look who we have there. It's almost like a destiny to have this thing there,

destroying, attempting to destroy this country. And maybe not even understanding why. So it's up to us to protect the country. That we love. Yes. You weren't supposed to make me cry. Thank you so much. Thank you for this.

We talked about how this is the moment. This is the moment that it goes one way or the other. That's right. You think it's going the other way? I don't know. All I know is people have to have to resist, resist, resist, resist. There's no easy way. It's not going to come to you easy.

There's a time when you know in your own life and your own survival. You better do this. let it jump and run through the fire. Because if you don't run through the fire, you're not getting out. And that's what we have to do. I'm glad I get to run next to you. Oh, oh my God, I just threw up in my mouth. Everything about it makes my skin crawl.

The worst, though, is that she's not crying. She wants us to believe that she's crying, like in solidarity with him, with her very nasal delivery. Like, you weren't supposed to make me cry. You weren't supposed to make me cry. So glad I get to run with you. It's so weird. Who does that?

Who that's not crying? Pretends they're crying when, let's face it, Robert De Niro is an elderly man now. And a lot of times when men in particular become elderly, they get a lot closer to tears very often. You know, we saw it with H.W. Bush. We've seen it with quite a few men. It can be kind of sweet.

It's not sweet here. But I think Robert De Niro, he's emotionally unregulated, all right? And there becomes almost a responsibility by the news anchor not to put this person on. Really, truly. I trust me, I'm not going to name names, but I've had this experience where I then say, we can't book that person again. Because they just, they're emotionally unregulated or and or they've crossed over to a place where some sort of like dementia has slipped in.

I say that about Carl like once a week. And you're not getting the actual full person. You can't have him on. He's too emotional. Megan. This is like almost elder abuse. Megan. Not for you,

girl. No, he was, he played the Southern Catcher and Bang the Dremsouly who dies with cancer. He played the Jake Lamata, the great boxer.

He, of course, you mentioned her. Yeah, Raging Bull. And you mentioned earlier. He was the godfather. he's a young Vito Corleone. So he's a great actor. He can cry on Q.

I think you're missing the point. Well, I'll say this. He's crying for a fact. He too was acting. Yeah. She was definitely acting. To me, it seems sincere on his part because he's deranged. He really, truly, has Trump derangement syndrome.

There's no one who has it worse than Robert De Niro. I mean, truly, Rosie O'Donnell and he, they're tied. And the nerve, Andrew, of him to lecture us on not being divisive. literally says you can't divide people. Let's run SOT 46. He's a dog. He's a pig. He's a con, a bull-h-artist, a mutt.

Well, I'd like to punch him in the face. This is somebody that we want for president? I don't think so. I'm going to say one thing. Fuck Trump. He's a sociopathic, psychopathic, psychopathic, malignant narcissist. He's got to be stopped.

If he gets in, I can tell you right now, he will never leave. He will never leave. You know that. He will never leave. What does that mean? Is that the country we want to live in? Do we want him running this country and saying, I'm not leaving? I'm dictator for life.

You can't divide people unless you're Bobby De Niro, in which case you can do. it all day every day if it's about Donald Trump, Andrew. Yeah. Well, I will say this about Nicole Wallace before we leave it. It takes some discipline when someone's crying on camera not to break in. And it's something that interviewers kind of learn to do. When someone's having an emotional moment, don't do the natural thing, which is to try to relieve the stress in the room. So give her some credit for that. Can someone please cut Andrew's mic? You know what I'm But I

Can't listen to this What? But I Yeah. I mean, what do you want to say about Bobby Ninn? He was at the The state of the

Swamp event yesterday And he did say on camera Because we played it in our thing That America is not very He loves his country But America is not lovable right now. So that was fairly mild for him.

Don't divide people. Yeah. But, you can't divide people. Look, you just can't. It's just the wrong thing to do, tell me. It just shows, though, like, I can't even imagine. And I think most people can't even imagine, like, getting, getting that emotional and having all these emotions of anger and the rage toward a politician.

Like, there are politicians that we don't like. And, you know, if, like, if AOC becomes president, she wins the next election or someone like that, Like, are Republicans, are they going to be, you know, crying about it? I mean, there's just this emotional level that the Democrats have, and it's driven by Trump, mostly, that it is. It's like a mind virus that causes them to get just so emotionally invested. Their hatred of him is, like, all-consuming. And I just don't understand it.

I think most people don't understand it because we just don't get that worked up over politicians. You like some. You hate some. like the country's going to survive one way the other. It's not like they've convinced themselves that like he's the end of times. I mean, it's really weird. But why do we care?

Although I will tell you, Tom, last night, Doug and I had like a serious conversation of how we would divide the United States if we needed to. Like, if blue needed to separate from red, what would be meaningful lines? And we decided that we'd have to give the West Coast to the Libs. We'd have to give the East Coast to the conservatives. then we're going to have to fight over Vermont and Massachusetts because it's going to be like the Israeli settlements. Like people got to get out. Sorry, we know you've been living here,

but you got to go west. Get out. You're going to have to go. We stumbled when we got to Illinois because, you know, I know that's where you live, but like, Illinois, that's all the lives now. But like, we need a contiguous landmass for both the right side of the country

and the left side of the country. And we're probably going to have a fight over Illinois. We kind of need that on Team Red, but it's so blue. But we definitely need my... Montana. We need the Dakotas on team red. So maybe there could be like a swath across the middle that we could give to the left that comes up and like kind of grabs Illinois. I think we'd go over the top of Michigan, the conservative. I don't know. We could work it out.

They need the southeast. Yeah, yeah. There's all that sunshine and good golf down there. Republicans have to have that. And we're going to get that. Megan, did you get to this point? That's going to be ours. Because I floated this idea.

We could trade Minnesota to Canada for Alberta. What would you think? In a heartbeat. Yeah. What would you think of that? I love that. Or we can just take it. Well done.

And I think, or we could just like give it to Somalia. No, we can't do that because my, I bet they pay us some modest amount. She can be Canadian. She can't be Somalian. So we can't do that. We're going to send our hockey team up to Alberta and just take it by force. Yeah, yeah, yes. Play a match, one match for all the country.

If really pressed on the national divorce, there might be a way to do it. You know, some people are going to be unhappy. but I think net net, it actually could be done. But you look at somebody like De Niro, I'm being facetious, of course, but you look at somebody like De Niro, Carl, and you think he would do that in a heartbeat. Like that, he's deranged.

You know, that Trump derangement syndrome. We say it is joking kind of thing, but it truly is like an affliction. And when you have it, it dominates your life. I remember thinking about this with Rob Reiner when he met his terrible end. And, you know, of course, you felt nothing but sympathy for Rob Reiner and his wife, Michelle.

But the truth, about Rob Reiner is he was a very angry man, and he had had this lifelong struggle with his son, but he, public-facing, when it came to anything political, was always very angry. It consumed him. And I think Robert De Niro is the same. He can't speak anymore about politics in a rational way where, like, you can really hear him and, like, take his points into consideration. He's just too far gone. You know, you're right. And it's sad because he wasn't always like that. There's a great scene in a book I was about the Hollywood. I can't, it was William Goldman, but it wasn't him.

It was another one. It will come to me. But it was the making of Raging Bowl. And the first script was so awful. And the producer said, I'm not going to make this movie. I can't, in the opening scene, he's beating up his pregnant wife. He's a monster. I can't make a movie where the protagonist is a monster.

And De Niro was there, I think was, was it Martin Scorsese? De Niro was there in the room. And he didn't even, he was like 20, in his 20s, thin, thoughtful guy. And he finally just said, he's no monster. He said, well, give me another script. And this guy didn't even know it was De Niro. And he helped, he helped write the script and shape it so that this very troubled man was a sympathetic character. And that's how he used to have, he used to be able to see the good, the bad and people. And somehow, maybe Tom is right. Maybe it's, maybe it's, maybe it's an actual mind virus. But this thing that's happened to him,

it's happened to millions of Americans. And it's sad. And it's not, it's not really. the best way to live. It's not the best way to think. And it's not how De Niro used to be. So the whole thing makes me sad. And I don't, I hope we can turn the page sometime without dividing the country literally. I just think we should ignore what Robert De Niro has to say. I don't understand why anyone would give a damn what he thinks about politics. What has he ever done that would give you an idea that he has an insight into how the country should be run? He's an actor. And, you know, God bless him. Yes. But I swear my plumber would know as much. Right. If he wants to tell us about how the Godfather was made, we're all ears.

I'm interested in that. But I'm not interested in this politics. And I don't think we should be either. And you can sense his frustration that people aren't listening to him. And instead of like getting the message, you know, remember that clip of Jennifer Lawrence back in the fall where she was like, I think I need to stop talking about this because I think I should just speak through my art. I run the risk of alienating a large portion of the country, and they won't want to go see my movies anymore, and I speak through my movies. So maybe I should just let that be my message. You could see the light bulbs trying to go off for her. Like, yes, that's all we've been asking.

Like, make woke movies if that's what you want. Then we can at least choose whether to go see them or not. But like, stop lecturing us on something you know nothing about. On your soapbox, and he doesn't get it. Like he continues to proselytize. We're not listening. You know, no one was worse than Robert De Niro over the past 10 years when it comes to Trump. We haven't listened, you know.

We keep re-electing him. His approval rating is struggling right now, as it has virtually all of his time as president. But he can't seem to break through. And it's driving him crazy. I'll bet it's terrible to live with him. I bet I don't know if he's married, but I'll bet if he is. She's like, shut up about Donald Trump. Shut up.

Like, think about it. You guys are all in politics full time. So am I, basically. Do you spend your evenings talking to your family about politics? I'll say politics takes up maybe like 15 to 20 percent of what is discussed like in my home. And only when it's like in the news, something big. We're talking about like our lives. We're not talking about Donald Trump over the dinner table.

Like there's something wrong with people who do that every night, every night obsessively with this much emotion. Totally agree. Totally agree. And but it seems to it, it affects some. people more than others. I mean, it's weird. And he's clearly, it's affected him like he's among the worst of anybody. I mean, it's just, it's consumed his life. And as he said, look, we've talked about this before. I mean, politics has replaced religion. It's replaced a lot of things in our society, particularly for progressives and folks on the left. It fills the void that they have and it gives

them the sense of community and all that. But it is, it's a corrosive force. It's destructive. It's not the as religion and and people who just build their lives around it and center their lives around it wind up looking like you know like Bobby De Niro sad, bitter, angry, resentful, resentful of the country, resentful of anyone who voted for Donald Trump, you know, looking at the country through a political lens all the time and that's just it's, I wish we could do less of that but unfortunately these are the times that we live in and it's affected. It's infected everything from, you know, what restaurants we eat at maybe to the, you know, the sports that we watch and all these other things.

Some of the places we shop and it's just, it's, I wish we could roll it back, but I don't know that we can. Yeah. If I were his daughter or wife, I would say, you know, you put that down. Right. You put down that phone. Detox. You put down that remote control.

You step away from X. step away from the screens, go fishing, go for a walk in the snow, go sit with your granddaughter, like touch grass, as they say, but you need to step away from politics because you can't handle it. Like, not everybody can handle it. You know, it's like, like the drink. Some people can have the drink. They can have a couple glasses of wine a few times a week and they're fine. They never get addicted. Others cannot. They've got the gene. You know, like one is, what is it? Like, one is too many and a hundred is not enough. That's Robert De Niro and politics right now because of Trump. It broke him.

It broke his mind. He's to step away and maybe focus on, like, making movies, something he at one point was great at. Maybe he still is. I'd love to find out. In any event, that's it. I've taken you far too long. It's not like you guys are making a fortune off all these hours for serious X-M. But you're doing your civic duty.

So thank you for being here, you guys. And thanks for everything. Thank you, Megan. Oh, what a great crew. right? Tom Bevan, Carl Cannon, Andrew Walworth. What a fun addition to the MK channel. I hope you love their podcast as much as I do. Be sure to download it as well. Tomorrow, Tucker Carlson will be here. He's been getting in trouble as usual. And we'll talk to him about all the news. Thanks for listening to The Megan Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.