The Megyn Kelly Show - Trump Hits Back at MTG, Wind Farm Freeze Blocked, Court Backs Trans Military Ban: AM Update 12/10

Episode Date: December 10, 2025

President Trump and Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene escalate their public feud as the President defends his foreign policy focus in a new Politico interview. A federal judge strikes down President Trump’s executive order freezing wind farm permitting, calling the administration’s rationale legally insufficient. A federal judge approves the DOJ’s request to release grand jury materials from the Ghislaine Maxwell investigation under the new Epstein Files Transparency Act - MK True Crime legal contributor Phil Holloway weighs in. A U.S. appeals court reinstates Secretary of War Pete Hegseth’s ban on transgender service members, finding the policy likely constitutional while litigation continues. A U.S. appeals court sides with Secretary of War Pete Hegseth on the transgender military ban. All Family Pharmacy: Order now at https://allfamilypharmacy.com/MEGYN and save 10% with code MEGYN10 Herald Group: Learn more at https://GuardYourCard.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Good morning, everyone. I'm Emily Dushinsky, host of After Party and the Megan Kelly wrap-up show on SiriusXM, Channel 111. It's Wednesday, December 10th, 2025, and this is your AM update. Stupid people like Marjorie Trader Green. I feel very sorry for President Trump. President Trump and Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green showing no sign of de-escalating their feud as the president joins Politico for a sit-down interview. A federal judge strikes down President Trump's executive order putting a stop to wind farm permitting. It may make people look bad. It may make people look suspicious.

A judge approves the release of grand jury materials connected to the Galane Maxwell investigation and a U.S. appeals court sides with Secretary of War Pete Hagseth on the transgender military ban. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM update. The holidays are here, which means family time, great food, lots of travel, and of course, a few too many germs. That is why I love all family pharmacy. They make it simple to stay healthy and prepared. Just go to allfamilyfarmacy.com slash Megan, place your order online, and then a licensed physician will review it, provide a prescription if necessary, and once it is approved, your medication ships right to your door, fast and secure. Whether you are looking for ivermectin,

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Taylor Green of Georgia, is getting buried anytime soon. President Trump issuing a lengthy defense to criticism levied by Congresswoman MTG, who in mid-November criticized the president for hosting the president of Syria, a man previously tied to jihadist movements at the White House. Congresswoman Green posting on X, quote, The new leader of Syria is a former al-Qaeda terrorist wanted by our government. I would really like to see non-stop meetings at the White House on domestic policy, not foreign policy, and foreign country's leaders.

Start by hauling in the health insurance companies' executives, and let's start formulating our Republican plan to save America from Obamacare and ACA tax credits that have skyrocketed the cost of health insurance. President Trump responding, I've watched stupid people like Marjorie Trader Green or some people call it Taylor Green. Some people call her Taylor Brown because green sometimes turns to brown, which isn't nice. But I've watched her say that he spends too much time on foreign. Well, by doing that, and first of all, it doesn't take a lot of time.

I made one trip. I brought back trillions of dollars on that one trip. I stopped in Japan. I stopped in South Korea. I met with President Xi and ended what could have been a big problem. Went to the Middle East. I was on that trip with you. Went to the Middle East. I brought back $3 trillion from the Middle East. The president then highlighting a list of trade deals and other agreements made with other countries, arguing that work is to the direct benefit of U.S. citizens. Dasha Burns, pressing the issue harder. That's just what some of your supporters and some others have said. Well, then, you know, I can't imagine their supporters. because I've made a fortune and spent very little time.

All of my time is spent here. So some people would say, don't focus on anything outside of our border. I like that too. But I've made trillions and trillions of dollars and solved problems and solved wars. Do you know, most of the wars that I solved were solved sitting behind the Oval Office desk

on a telephone? I think that those are worthy phone calls. Even if they didn't impact us to save million of lives from another country, and if I can do that easily because I have an ability, are pretty good. Congresswoman MTG hitting back at President Trump's criticisms yesterday morning on CNN. I feel very sorry for President Trump. I genuinely do.

It has to be a hard place for someone that is constantly so hateful and puts so much vitriol, name-calling, and really tells lies about people in order to try to get his way or win some kind of fight. And I think that's exactly what's wrong in America today. That's what's wrong in this toxic political environment that has ripped our country apart. And I personally think that that's poor leadership from a president. It's a very bad demeanor, and Americans are very tired of it.

Elsewhere in the interview, President Trump discussing his birthright citizenship executive order. The 14th Amendment of the Constitution ratified post-Civil War in 1868, reading, quote, all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. President Trump issuing a day one executive order clarifying that, quote, subject to the jurisdiction thereof excludes babies born in the U.S. to parents here illegally or temporarily. the order challenged on multiple fronts, winding through the system, with the Supreme Court last week agreeing to hear more arguments on the merits of the case.

President Trump offering more on his interpretation of the amendment to Politico. The case is very interesting because that case was meant for the babies of slaves. And if you look at the dates on the case, it was exactly having to do with the Civil War. that case was not meant from some rich person coming from another country, dropping, putting a foot in our country, and all of a sudden their whole family becomes, you know, United States citizens. That case is all about slaves, the babies of slaves, and it was a good reason for doing it, and that's all it was about,

and people now are understanding it. It's been explained to them, and I think the court understands it too. That would be a devastating decision if we lose that case. Because our country cannot afford to house tens of millions of people that came in through birthright citizenship. Arguments on that case will likely be heard in the spring with a decision coming later in the summer. A federal judge on Monday blocking President Trump's executive order halting new wind energy

projects requiring federal permits. The order signed on day one of Trump 2.0, freezing new or renewed offshore windle as the administration launched a review of federal permitting. Secretary of the Interior, Doug Bergam, also called on to review existing wind energy leases per the order. Since taking effect, many offshore wind developers and projects on federal lands stuck in limbo, awaiting the necessary permitting or outright canceled. Monday's ruling is the result of a lawsuit filed in May by a group of 17 states, Washington, D.C. and the nonprofit Alliance for Clean Energy, New York, led by New York,

York Attorney General Letitia James, calling the order, quote, arbitrary and unnecessary and arguing it created a, quote, existential threat to the wind industry. The Trump administration countering that the lawsuit amounted to a policy dispute over wind versus fossil fuels that federal courts cannot referee. Clinton appointed Judge Patty Saris of the District of Massachusetts, citing with the states, ruling that the administration never provided the, quote, reasoned explanation required under the Administrative Procedure Act to halt wind leases, saying instead the Interior Department acted only because President Trump ordered it to. President Trump, a leading critic of wind energy, attacking it repeatedly throughout the campaign, and increasing the pressure once retaking office.

Here, a moment from the president's September address to the UN General Assembly. The wind doesn't blow. Those big windmills are so pathetic and so bad, so expensive to operate. then they have to be rebuilt all the time, and they start to rust and rot. Most expensive energy ever conceived, and it's actually energy. You're supposed to make money with energy, not lose money. You lose money. The governments have to subsidize. You can't put them out without massive subsidies.

A.G. James, responding to the ruling on Monday, quote, this is a big victory in our fight to keep tackling the climate crisis and protect one of our best sources of clean, reliable, and affordable energy. The broader impact of the ruling is uncertain due to the complex web of agencies, executive orders, and policies involved in the permitting process. It is not yet clear if the administration plans to appeal, but a White House spokesman issuing a statement in defense of the president's executive order, quote, under Joe Biden's green news scam, offshore wind projects were given unfair preferential treatment while the rest of the energy industry was hindered by burdensome regulations. President Trump has ended Joe Biden's war on American energy and unleashed America's energy dominance to protect our economic and national security.

Coming up, a judge agrees to allow the DOJ to release grand jury materials related to the Galane-Mexwell investigation, and an appeals court keeps the Trump administration's ban on transgender service members in place. As President Trump is settled, into his new administration, one of the top Democrats in Congress aiming to undermine the Trump agenda is Senator Dick Durbin. And according to our sponsor, the Electronic Payments Coalition, Senator Durbin has a new scheme, a government takeover of your credit card. Today, Americans have

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denied earlier this year due to grand jury secrecy protections. A.G. Bondi requesting the release again last month on an expedited basis following the passage of the Epstein Files Transparency Act, which requires the DOJ to release all materials in its possession relating to the Epstein and Maxwell cases, with limited exception, by December 19th. Obama appointed Judge Paul Engelmeyer for the Southern District of Manhattan, citing the newly passed act in his decision to now approve the release of the records. A separate judge in the Southern District of Florida last week

approving the release of grand jury materials from that jurisdiction's investigation into Epstein. That investigation beginning in 2005, leading to his conviction on state charges in a highly controversial plea deal. A. G. Bondi also seeking the release of materials from a third judge relating to the 2019 sex trafficking charges against Epstein. That judge has yet to issue a ruling. Judge Engelmeier, writing Tuesday, the grand jury materials, quote, do not discuss or identify any client of Epstein's or Maxwell's. They do not reveal any heretofore unknown means of methods of Epstein's or Maxwell's crimes. Prior to releasing any of the newly obtained records,

the DOJ stating it will coordinate with victims and their legal teams about any redactions to protect their identities and privacy. We spoke with MK True Crime, legal analyst Phil Holloway, on what the public can expect with these coming disclosures. Grand jury proceedings are traditionally secret for several reasons, primarily to protect innocent people from reputational harm. If it becomes public that a grand jury is representing someone who, for example, turns out to be innocent, sometimes the stigma from that investigation will just never go away. But it's also

important to keep grand jury material and investigation secret to protect the integrity of the investigation because you don't want to have people who are targets of these things, perhaps destroying evidence or fleeing from the jurisdiction and anticipation of an indictment and things of that nature. So what Congress has done is they have taken that traditional rule that goes back to the English common law flipped it on its end and say, okay, now the DOJ can disclose all of this stuff. Holloway contends most of the major facts are already known, but whatever is left to release may pull back the curtain on elements of Epstein's world. I think they're going to reveal a lot into the sort of the lifestyle that Epstein and those in his orbit were living. I think it's going to

reveal financial information about Epstein and a lot of people in his orbit. And it's also going to reveal communications, which a lot of people might find very interesting, salacious. It may make people look bad. It may make people look suspicious. But we have to remember that there's people that this grand jury looked at that the grand jury decided not to charge with anything. So we have to take it all with that idea in mind. Holloway outlines some possible unintended consequences of Congress's intervention compelling the release of the grand jury materials. One of the reasons grand jury proceedings are secret is to encourage candor, and by that I mean witnesses are more likely to speak freely and truthfully without fear or fear of retaliation or any kind of pressure if they know and believe going into it that their testimony is going to be confidential. if Congress turns around and basically removes that confidentiality every time there's public

outcry, then nobody is going to feel comfortable enough to really go in and be truthful and perhaps entirely candid when they testified a grand jury. So this particular case needs to be seen as an isolated incident. We're not going to see the Congress basically opening up all grand juries in the future. Overall, Holloway expects the upcoming document dump may disappoint those hoping for shocking revelations. I think that there's so much speculation already circulating in the public discourse. There are people who believe that there are, say, client lists.

Okay, there's this like one master list of all of Epstein's clients. Well, that doesn't exist. What we're going to get is we're going to get raw material. We're going to get transcripts and things like that. And it's going to be probably very dissatisfying for a lot of people, I think. And so there's going to be people because of that who will believe that there is still some type of conspiracy, some type of cover-up, even after everything is released. There will be people who will be very dissatisfied once all is said and done.

Hopefully, at some point, we can move on from Epstein and learn from this. We need to, I think, overall, maybe have some more transparency in the criminal justice system at large. But I don't think it needs to go so far as to opening law enforcement case files every time there's a high-profile defendant. A federal appeals court yesterday allowing Secretary of War, Pete Hexas, ban on so-called transgender men and women from serving in the U.S. military to go into effect while a challenge to the policy plays out in the courts. In a 2-1 ruling, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit ruling the ban is, quote, likely constitutional because it reflects a considered judgment of military leaders and furthers legitimate military interests. President Trump signing the executive order in January called prioritizing military excellence and readiness, citing DOD policy ensuring service members are, quote, free of medical conditions or physical defects that may reasonably be expected to require excessive time lost from duty

for necessary treatment or hospitalization. The order directing the Pentagon to update its medical and personnel standards within 60 days. Hagseth, then updating guidelines, effectively banning individuals who identify as transgender from military service. U.S. District Court Judge Honoréz, a Biden appointee, ruling against the Trump administration and issuing an injunction blocking the order from taking effect after an opponent sued to halt its implementation. The Trump administration took the case to the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, and yesterday Trump appointed judges Gregory Katzis and Naomi Rao finding the ban to be consistent with past military standards. Noting it has been changed before, writing, quote, the United States

military enforces strict medical standards to ensure that only physically and mentally fit individuals join its ranks. For decades, these requirements barred service by individuals with gender dysphoria, a medical condition associated with clinically significant distress. This bar was partially relaxed in 2016, revived in 2018, partially relaxed again in 2021, and revived again in 2025. The judge is also determining the judiciary branch must, quote, tread carefully when asked to second-guess considered military judgments of the political branches. Obama appointed Judge Cornelia Pillard, writing in her dissent that banned, quote, brands all transgender people without regard to individual merit as unworthy to serve in our armed forces solely because they are transgender. The underlying

lawsuit now continuing, where it's expected to again reach the D.C. Court of Appeals and possibly even the U.S. Supreme Court before it concludes. That'll do it for your AM update. I'm Emily Dershinsky, host of After Party. Catch the Megan Kelly show live on SiriusXM's The Megan Kelly Channel 11 at noon east on YouTube.com slash Megan Kelly and all podcast platforms.