The Megyn Kelly Show - Trump's Momentous Girls' Sports Exec Order, CBS Reveals Kamala Edits, and RFK's Odds, with Andrew Klavan, Ron Johnson, and Chuck Zito | Ep. 1001

Episode Date: February 6, 2025

Megyn Kelly is joined by Andrew Klavan, host of The Daily Wire's "Andrew Klavan Show,” to discuss President Trump delivering on his promise to protect womens' and girls' sports, his monumental execu...tive order banning biological males from female sports, why it marks a cultural turning point for protecting women, the false divide between men and women, how Trump’s unmatched resilience changed the Republican party, his "fight, fight, fight" mentality after the first assassination attempt, what we learned from the FCC publishing the transcript and raw footage from Kamala Harris' "60 Minutes" interview, the painful moments for Kamala that CBS News edited out, how legacy media lost the trust of the public, and more. Then U.S. Senator Ron Johnson joins to discuss Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s upcoming senate confirmation vote for HHS Secretary, whether any GOP senators might vote against him and any Democratic senators will vote for him, why he’s the right person to take on corporate interests, the absurdity of RFK's confirmation hearings, and more. Then Chuck Zito, actor and stuntman, joins to discuss his experience in the Hell's Angels infamous motorcycle club, growing up and getting introduced to martial arts, the infamous altercation with Jean-Claude Van Damme, his unique experiences as a celebrity bodyguard, his decades-long friendship with President Trump, Trump's loyalty and resilience, and more.Klavan- https://www.amazon.com/Kingdom-Cain-Finding-Literature-Darkness/dp/0310368340/Johnson- https://x.com/senronjohnsonZito- https://www.instagram.com/officialchuckzito/Birch Gold: Text MK to 989898 and get your free info kit on goldJustThrive: Visit https://JustThriveHealth.com and use code MEGYN and save 20% sitewide.Byrna: Get 10% Off at https://Byrna.com/MegynFollow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at: https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. President Trump remains on offense and the results have been incredible. I just, it's, I can't get over it. The days keep passing. He keeps doing more incredible things, amazing things, gifts to us, just righting the deep immoral wrongs that were done to us during the Biden administration. And we knew he was going to, he promised that he would, but aren't you so used to being disappointed by politicians? Everything's too hard. It didn't work out. The Democrats wouldn't cooperate. We get used to like, well, I guess, you know, we tried
Starting point is 00:00:58 and what's happening. Yes. It's via executive order. Yes, it can be undone by the next president, but it's something. It's progress. He's doing what he said he would do. He's fulfilling the promises he made to us. And then he will also push for the legislation. He is doing that too. But at least we have a four-year fix. At least we have a four-year restoration to sanity and morality in some departments, like the one I'm about to talk about, such that Americans can live again in a way that makes sense, in a way that is safe, in a way that is normal. And if another president comes in after Trump and tries to undo it, they will feel the acute shift in a way that will be profound and will, I think, stop the next president from doing it. So there is real value in these executive orders. Forget, you know, that.
Starting point is 00:01:55 That's a valid point, the one I just made. But think of all, for example, with respect to the girls in sports issue. Think of how many girls are going to be protected. Think of how many girls are not going to have to undress in front of a boy pretending to be one of them. Are not going to have their teeth knocked out on the field hockey field because Trump used his pen to fulfill a campaign promise. It was a thing of beauty yesterday. He signed, it truly was beautiful. He signed an executive order banning men and boys from women's and girls' sports. And the NCAA has already said it will comply.
Starting point is 00:02:37 It was a complete victory in the war to protect our girls. Just unbelievable. The video, let's watch it. Okay. Let's watch it because it was, it's actually kind of emotional. And then I'm going to bring in our first guest. You know, if you'd like to gather around me, I think I'm going to be okay. Come on. Come on. Secret Service is worried about them? If we have to worry about them, we have big problems. Okay, do you want to have a picture? Do you want to do this?
Starting point is 00:03:20 Watch what I do, and then I'm going to give you some pens, okay? You ready? What a nice picture this you some pens, okay? You ready? What a nice picture this is, huh, Governor? You ready? We'll do a good job. Wait a minute. Let me press that. I want to make this a really good signature because this is a big one, right?
Starting point is 00:03:49 Oh, I think we have a 10. We have a 10. Surrounded by young, innocent, fresh-faced girls who just want to play their sports against other girls. That's all they're asking, just for fairness and safety in sport. Something that for many decades has been a foregone conclusion in the wake of Title IX, but wasn't recently, thanks to Joe Biden, that villain, and his sidekick, Kamala Harris, who actually tried to convince us she could do this job. You know, we've talked about this, but the night before the election, I went to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and did something I've never done before in my life, certainly not as a journalist, but not even as a private citizen. And that was I endorsed a candidate and spoke on his behalf and urged other people to vote for him. And I was there specifically,
Starting point is 00:04:41 this was my task, I wasn't asked specifically to do this, but my choice to explain my vote was to tell people that those who are mocking President Trump's promise to protect women did not understand what he was actually going to do when he took the office. That I was voting for him specifically because I believed that promise. We spoke about that night, Lakin Riley. I mentioned her by name. What was his first order of business? The very first piece of legislation he signed into law, the Lakin Riley Act, to protect other young American women and men from the crimes committed by illegals who are here, who repeatedly offend, and then in these sanctuary cities get turned right back out onto the street, which is what happened in Lake and Riley's case.
Starting point is 00:05:30 And now what? We've had three executive orders, one declaring that sex is binary. There are no trans anythings. You cannot transition from being male to female or female to male. You can pretend, you can call yourself that, do your thing. The rest of us do not have to participate in your delusion and we will not be saying your pronouns or pretending that your delusion is anything other than unwellness. Then one declaring that the federal government would not be participating in any gender transitions because that's fake too. You cannot use Medicare funds or Medicaid funds to chop off the healthy genitals of children in the name of this sick ideology, nor can any institution taking government funds in any way perform these procedures and continue to accept those funds. And now we get this one, this one that has 79% support of
Starting point is 00:06:28 the American people. 67% of the Democratic Party is on the same page as Donald Trump on whether we should have boys who pretend to be girls playing in girls' sports, men who pretend to be girls, playing in girls' sports, men who pretend to be women playing in women's sports. The answer is no. This was immoral. It was evil. And it's coming to an end. We continue to face uncertainty when it comes to the economy, with a perfect storm brewing as Social Security and Medicare hit a breaking point, as the largest generation is, of course, hitting retirement. A smaller workforce means a smaller tax base. You pair that with our growing national debt and rising cost of living, and we could have a big problem. So what are you doing right now to protect your family for the future? Gold can be a safe haven in hard economic times,
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Starting point is 00:08:12 The Kingdom of Cain, Finding God in the Literature of Darkness, which will be released in May. Wow. I love the title, Andrew. It's a similar theme to what we just saw today. Not that Trump is God, but that God was present as he signed that executive order in the darkness of these past four years yesterday. Yeah. And you're absolutely right that even though these are EOs and we'd like to see laws passed, these are incredibly important because this is not a political movement that Trump is leading. This is a cultural movement. I mean, it's even in some sense, a cultural revolution, if I can borrow a phrase from our old friend, Chairman Mao. I mean, this is the complete destruction of a way of thinking that has been imposed on us, not just through the Biden administration. He was kind of the worst of it, but he was also the end
Starting point is 00:08:59 of it. This is 30, 40 years of a way of thinking that is absolutely, absolutely makes sense. And what Trump is doing is he's doing exactly what the left has so expertly done to us. The left knows how to basically, you know, what Scott Adams, the Dilbert guy calls talk past the sale, talk past the important point. So they get us into an argument about whether a transgender person can use a girl's bathroom or play in a girl's sport. at the culture. He understood that just by gathering those little girls and young ladies around him, he was showing us a picture of what we have been told to forget, that these are our women. These are our future mothers of a generation that I won't even get to see be born. These are wives of people who haven't even met them yet. These are the people
Starting point is 00:10:02 that we cherish as women. And for years, we've been taught that we can only, that women can only feel that they've accomplished something if they accomplish something as men. And that means that somebody who is a man who dresses up like them is essentially can replace them. They've taken away these children's identities. They've taken away their achievements. They've taken away their feminine modesty. They've taken away their spaces and their safety. And when you see those girls gathered around him, you tear up, as you say, that God is present in that moment because we remember what we always knew, that these are people that we cherish.
Starting point is 00:10:37 And we cherish them in their girlhood, in their femininity, in their womanhood. All this stuff that has grown up recently, that kind of that these Andrew Tate clowns and Pearl Davis who tell us we hate each other. These are all distortions forced on us by leftist feminism, by this idea that women are not valuable as women. They're only valuable as make-believe men. And so we've kind of been taught, we've got this anger in us, especially younger men. I think they have this anger and this idea that we are at war with one another. That's never been true. That has never been true in any human civilization. In any successful human civilization, men and women cherish each other. They actually respect each other. They understand that they're different and
Starting point is 00:11:19 have different roles and different strengths. And they understand that they're complementary. And all of that was wiped away until finally we found ourselves, you know, actually allowing people with penises to walk in to girls' locker rooms and bathrooms. I mean, it was a kind of insanity. 15% of the so-called women in women's prisons are men. And I mean, this is the kind of madness that we've been talked into instead of basically living on our common sense, our ability to know what we know. I mean, it's really interesting when my friend, you know, Matt Walsh at the Daily Wire made that film, What is a Woman? The answer was not as easy to come up with as you might think, because a woman is a whole thing. You know, a woman is not just a body. It's not just a genetic code. It's not just a shape. It is actually an entire thing that we all understand in our hearts, but can't always express. And the left has cleverly used its cultural expertise backed up by a new media that supports him to to remind us who we are, to remind us that we're men and women. We're glad we're men and women. We think it's a beautiful part of creation. It's the source of all human life. And when you see them gathered around him like that, you just think, what have we done? What were we even talking about? What kind of nightmare have we been in that we have to wake up from it like this and tell people, pass orders saying you can't castrate little boys and cut off the breasts of little girls and you can't steal their spaces and their sports. And it's an amazing moment and a genuine
Starting point is 00:12:53 transition. And I think it will last far longer than the usual executive orders. I love everything you said. I'm feeling like, I feel euphoric about it. I feel emotional about it. I feel a lot for the girls who have been hurt over the past four years who, you know, all these trans lobbyists are like trans people exist, you know, don't erase our existence. They erase the pain of girls just like that. They just pretend it didn't happen. You know, I referenced that night in Pittsburgh and it was, I, for me, it was a big deal to go and do that. I I've never done that before. And it was really important to me to do it. I, if I could convince any of my fellow women, because I know that there are a lot of Democrat
Starting point is 00:13:36 women who were kind of open-minded to Trump because of issues like this, who were still being told he was Hitler, who were still being told he hated women. And I felt in my heart that if I could speak to them, if I could reassure them that even notwithstanding my weird past with Trump, I was fully on board in supporting him and that they needed to see him through this different lens. They needed to understand he really would protect us. He really would. And that absolute cretin Chris Cuomo then mocked me for saying I needed to be protected by Donald Trump. I do want Donald Trump to protect me with laws that enforce, for example, our immigration policies. And I do want him to protect my 13-year-old daughter, Chris Cuomo. So go fuck yourself if you don't understand that.
Starting point is 00:14:20 But this is what I said that night, And it's why I'm so emotional today. The boys should not be in the girls sports. The boys should not be in the girls bathrooms. The boys should not be in the girls locker rooms. Peyton McNabb, North Carolina sophomore in high school, slammed so hard in the face by a volleyball hit at her by a boy pretending to be a girl. She suffered traumatic brain injury and permanent paralysis. Kamala Harris looks at her and says, be kind, suck it up. And that's what's right. Why do our girls have to face brain damage in order to be kind to boys who want to invade their sports? And lo and behold, he did it. He stepped in there.
Starting point is 00:15:15 He's been in office two weeks and two days and he signed this executive order. Therefore, it is the policy of the United States to rescind all funds from educational programs that deprive women and girls of fair athletic opportunities. I'm feeling emotional about it, which results in the endangerment, humiliation and silencing of women and girls and deprives them of privacy. States to oppose male competitive participation in women's sports more broadly as a matter of safety, fairness, dignity, and truth, directing that this Secretary of Education take all appropriate action to affirmatively protect all female athletic opportunities and all female locker rooms, and to prioritize Title IX enforcement actions against any educational institution that denies female students an equal opportunity to participate in sports or athletic events by requiring them
Starting point is 00:16:11 to compete against or appear unclothed before males. What a day, Andrew. What a day. He did it. It's an amazing thing. You know, when you really think about it, especially after the advent of Christianity, every Western civilization has been built upon the protection of women. The idea that women don't need special protections is simply a nonsense. fact that you can conceive and deliver children who need to be protected and who make you more vulnerable because you're the one who has to protect them. Entire societies all throughout the West since Christianity have been built upon protecting women and making sure they have lives. The marriage laws that feminists, you know, fall on the fainting couch over were invented by churchmen to basically say, no, you can't just kidnap a woman and carry her off and impregnate her. You know, you have to actually commit. If she's going to be faithful to you, you've got to be faithful to her. Entire networks of
Starting point is 00:17:15 philosophy and society are all based on that. And the left just thought, I will turn that off now and it'll be fine. And what of course happens, you know, of course women are victimized and it's, it's kind of, it's kind of bizarre that a guy like Trump who has been a playboy and all that and has said, you know, insensitive things should be the guy to fix it. But it's also kind of appropriate because one of the things that has happened is among the intelligentsia, the commentariat is that they make fun of Trump for the way he talks, the kind of bluntness that he has. He's not an intellectual. He has no philosophy. And one friend of mine once called him the guy at the end of the bar. And I said, you know, when you've plunged into a time of madness, the guy at the end of the bar has a lot to say because all he's doing is talking common sense.
Starting point is 00:17:59 And when Trump promised during his inaugural speech and he promised we're going to have a golden age of common sense, that's what we're looking for. Because, again, Megan, we do know these things. We do know what women are. We do know basically what they need in order to live a full, healthy, normal life. We built our civilization around that protection. It's been the wonder of the world. I mean, it is the wonder of the world the way women have been treated in modern Western society. When you compare society before that, of course, there were flaws. And of course,
Starting point is 00:18:28 there were things that had to be staggered forward toward and grasp. But it is an amazing thing that has happened, not just in America, but in Europe in the 19th century, the rights that women have secured, the protection that they have, and the entire civilizational network built to protect them. And the left just wanted to sweep it away like it was nothing. And when you see Trump with those girls around them, and I have a daughter and you do, and you understand that this is urgently important. This is the whole, all of us should be, this is not a male, female idea. This is something that all of us as civilized Western Christian based people should care about down to our toes. And it is it was a tremendously moving moment and only part of this cultural revolution that Trump is overseeing. It's a it's a beautiful, beautiful thing that he's overseeing and that ushered him into office. Here he is just a bit more from the man himself as he declared the E.L.
Starting point is 00:19:28 This was one of the big reasons that we all won. And it's one of the big reasons that we had a record, a landslide like they haven't seen before very often anyway. And who could forget last year's Paris Olympics where a male boxer stole the woman's gold medal after brutalizing his female opponent so viciously that she had to forfeit just after 46 seconds. And she was a championship fighter. And actually, they had two women or two people that transitioned, and both of them won gold medals and they won them very convincingly. But all of that ends today because with this executive order, the war on women's sports is over.
Starting point is 00:20:15 It's amazing. It's huge progress. It does not, it's not going to apply to private schools that don't take federal money or to independent sports. You know, it doesn't it doesn't govern the Olympics. It doesn't govern, you know, whatever. Pick your sport that men are invading. That's that's another battle. And it's an executive order. And we still need to sign the law, the law that we just had Senator Tuberville on the other day who introduced this legislation. And it keeps getting kicked out, keeps getting buried even by Republican leadership right now in the Senate, which we're trying to pressure them into having a vote on this thing to it's the call to protect women and girls in sports act.
Starting point is 00:20:54 So we need a law with the Republicans control the house, the Senate and the white house. There's no reason we can't have a law. This, this issue has 79% support of the American people, 67% of Democrats. Here's CNN's Harry Enten laying out the numbers yesterday. I think these numbers are really illuminating on this topic because I just think there's such a clear trend among the American public. So transgender female athletes in women's sports, only 18% of the country says that they should be, in fact, allowed to participate in women's sports. Compare this to the opposition.
Starting point is 00:21:31 I mean, my goodness gracious, 79%. You rarely get 79% of the country to agree on anything. But they do, in fact, agree on the idea of opposing transgender female athletes in women's sports. As he points out, what does this country agree on? Name another issue that we're 79% in agreement on. I don't think you can find one, really. Maybe like how we felt about Betty White, right?
Starting point is 00:21:58 Like it has to be something that generic and non-controversial. This is extremely controversial. The other way to do this is extremely controversial. And it's amazing to me. We're actually going to be joined by Senator Ron Johnson after you, because he's on our side on this. And I'm going to ask him what he thinks. But this is the fact that Republican leadership won't let this come out for a vote in a Republican-controlled Senate. Why not? What Republican would ever vote against it? And why are we afraid of making the Democrats go on record with their no votes when almost 70 percent of their own caucus, their own voters agree with you and me and Ron Johnson on it? Because the Republicans haven't caught on yet
Starting point is 00:22:40 to the fact that the media is no longer controlling the narrative. The mainstream or legacy media is no longer controlling the narrative. They're so used to being cowed and frightened and whipped by this circle of media that surrounds Washington, D.C., that they don't understand that nobody cares what they think anymore. Nobody cares what the New York Times opinion is anymore. It literally does not matter. And when you say that 79 percent, that's changed like 15 or 16 percent just in the last few months. And the reason it has changed is because Trump has given people permission to think what they already thought. No one ever, ever has believed that people could change sex bullet in the ear and spit the bullet back at the guy and say, fight, fight, fight. That was the kind of attitude it took simply to say that the emperor wasn't wearing any clothes, simply to say that all these leftist propos constrained by this empire of lies, that the empire of lies has fallen, it is gone. If they don't catch on to that, they're going to be replaced. You know, they're going to be pushed out in primaries. They're going to absolutely disappear. This is a different party.
Starting point is 00:23:59 It's a different Republican Party. There may be parts of that Republican Party I don't like as a kind of mainstream conservative, but that's fine. This is a picking up. It's a populist movement in the sense that it is following the will of the people. And in this case, the will of the people awakened by Donald Trump and other people who have had the courage to speak their minds like you, they're actually saying what simple basic truth that's right in front of them. And I think if the Republicans cannot bring this into law, they're out of their minds, because I think if they actually bring it forward, even some of the Democrats are going to have to go along. Yes. I mean, talk about a no brainer. I want to pick up on your comment about the assassination attempt in one second. But you're a screenwriter, Hollywood screenwriter, in addition to being a very successful podcaster and book writer. Your comment reminded me, back when I was much younger, I loved this movie. I actually still love this movie. I've seen it so many times now. I don't pull it up very often, but it's Far and Away by Ron Howard. It stars Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. And they're Irish and she's
Starting point is 00:24:59 sort of upper crust and he's more working class. And he shows up in her hometown to kill her father, who's the wealthy landowner who he, who had his dad, well, not killed, but like was disrespectful to their family and burned their house after his father died. So he shows up there to try to kill her father and shoots, but misses and it's a debacle. Well, so she shows up and rescues him from the makeshift prison her mother has made for this Tom Cruise character and asks him to come with her as she goes to America. She's fleeing to America to live a more independent life. But he's just tried to kill her father. So why would she do this?
Starting point is 00:25:36 And there's a great line where she's up on this ladder trying to rescue him from this second floor bedroom saying, boy, come with me. And he's looking at her like, you're out of your mind. And she says, what I saw you do out there, you spat on that guy's face, you stepped on his neck. That could be very useful to me. Boy, you said you wanted land. If that's what you want, then come with me. Great ships sail out of Dublin and Liverpool, but a woman dare not travel alone. No, you're brave. You shoot men, you step on their necks. When I saw that, I realized you could be very useful to me. And that's how you have to look at Trump, even if you hate him, which I don't. But I'm just saying, like, this is what people need to recognize.
Starting point is 00:26:25 He is the guy who spat out the bullet all but and said, fight, fight, fight. He's the guy who was told by everybody that Brett Kavanaugh was a gang rapist. And he said, no, he's going on the U.S. Supreme Court. He's the one who, after January 6th, when the whole nation was like, you're gross and we never want to see or hear from you or your entire family again, was like, no, you will. And actually, I will be your next president and I will never concede anything about January 6th. I did win. Never, never budge. That could be very useful to us in fighting the vicious, deranged far left that wants to erase what it means to be human.
Starting point is 00:27:09 They want to erase truly humanity. The difference between women and men is as fundamental and basic to who we are as anything else. And yet they insist that we forget it because of this small, not particularly well group of people who happens to be extremely vocal and politically active. Yeah, this is the exact reason I voted for Trump the first time, the first time he ran, even though when I first saw him, I was shocked. I made an extremely viral video attacking Trump the first time he ran because of his attitude and his ill manners and the cruelty of calling people names and all this stuff. But as I watched him, I began to realize that we were wrapped so thick in a network of lies that it actually was going to take a man like that to speak the simple truth. You know, I believe in being polite. I love being polite. I
Starting point is 00:28:03 think it is a wonderful way to treat other people. But in being polite, I love being polite. I think it is a wonderful way to treat other people. But in being polite, I've always said exactly what I thought, and I've always told the truth. I think for most people, it takes a certain amount of just belligerence before you can break through this network. I've had conversations over the last 8, 12 years that I cannot believe, where you'll talk about transgenderism as a good example, and you'll say, you know, they're cutting up the bodies of young people. That's something out of Nazi Germany. They're always talking about Nazi Germany. That's actually something they did in Nazi Germany. That is Joseph Mengele level evil. And people go, well, you know, there's this theory, this woman at a college with
Starting point is 00:28:40 this book and you think like, you know, and I've been kind of like, what on earth are you talking about? And I think this is the personality it took to basically bowl them over and knock them down. And it has been, you know, they threatened to put him in jail. They convicted him of a felony. I was watching him during that bogus trial in New York, perhaps one of the worst miscarriages of justice I've ever seen in an American courtroom where they were accusing of something nobody knew what it was. I was watching him and thinking, you know, I consider myself a fairly hard character, but I do not know if I could just spit in their eyes like this day after day while they're threatening to put me in jail for a crime they can't even name. And it didn't even stop him when he saw his mugshot. He looked at it and said,
Starting point is 00:29:23 that would look good on a t-shirt. Yes. And then his presidential portrait is almost the identical image of it. He totally leaned in. Somebody probably said, you know, it looks a little like the mugshot. And he was like, great. Then that's the one. That's a wrap of this. I mean, just, just remember, like that could be very useful to me. That could be very useful to me. Trump is very useful to all of us who have been trying to fight these fights, but without his steely resolve, without his power, without his never say die temerity and energy. And it's just such a gift to have him in there here. He on the subject of the assassination attempt and all he's been through. Um, and you know, there's just strength of this man. He was at the national prayer breakfast this morning and said the following
Starting point is 00:30:08 listen to Saudi. It didn't affect my hair. Can you believe that? Might've touched it, but not where it counts. Not, not the skin part, but it's no, honestly, it's a very, it changed. It changed something in me. I feel, I feel even stronger. I believed in God, but I feel, I feel much more strongly about it. Something happened. So thank you. So first of all, just love his sense of humor and when it's at his own expense, so much the better. But second of all, Andrew, I think you appreciate the second soundbite because he went on and I think, you know, it doesn't seem to me that Trump
Starting point is 00:30:48 is a particularly religious man, but I know he did grow up going to church on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. We know the church that he used to go to. And he mentioned God and the role of God in our nation this morning. Appropriate place to do it, but take a listen to the messaging on it. America is and will always be one nation under God. At every stage of the American story, our country has drawn hope and courage and inspiration from our trust in the Almighty. Deep in the soul of every patriot is the knowledge that God has a special plan and a glorious mission for America. And that plan is going to happen.
Starting point is 00:31:35 It's going to happen. I hope it happens sooner rather than later. It's going to happen. And it's his hand that guides us every single step of the way. How about that? I mean, of course, we've heard that many times in church and so on, but the, he, it's his hand that guides us every step of the way. I feel like Trump is the one being guided. He's like, Trump is the one being guided by that hand on a daily basis, setting an example for us all and improving lives for us all.
Starting point is 00:32:06 It was just, to me, it was like very meta, you know, that he was saying those things, given all that he's doing. You know, I was at the first two Trump prayer breakfasts and on the first one, he really didn't know what he was doing. It was kind of embarrassing. He was talking more about himself and his success. I once called him back in those days, and I think I was right. I once called him the first post-Christian president in the sense that he wasn't even pretending to believe in the Christian verities. He would make fun of people for being poor, which is the opposite of Christ. When he was asked if he needed God's forgiveness, he said, no, I just try to live so I don't need to be forgiven. He really didn't know what he was doing. And when he would
Starting point is 00:32:45 start to pick up the evangelical language of some of his supporters, I didn't believe him. Since that assassination attempt, his tone has changed. I can tell that he's, you know, as you say, I don't think he's a tremendously religious person. I don't think he's, you know, studying theology or reading the Bible every night. But I think he suddenly does get the fact that these people who talk about God, like me, you know, are not talking about empty space. They're talking about something that is really there. And his tone has definitely changed. And the things he's saying are things that he has learned from hard-won experience. And I think it really is different and it does make a difference because that as I've, I know I've said to you too many times, that too is something that we have to learn to talk about
Starting point is 00:33:28 with courage and boldness and not be talked out of the things that we know are there. It's great to see him think about it and lean into it. I agree with you. There's a difference. Trump hasn't changed his basic nature, which is good because that could be very useful to us. Um, but there's, there's definitely been a softening, I think of him as a human in that he's, he seems a bit more loving. He seems a bit more serene. He's still a fighter, all the things, but he has this other side now that we never saw much of publicly, even if we were trying to cover him fairly and not part as part of that, you know, fake news, hating media. He's just getting, he's more generous with showing that side of himself at a minimum. Okay. I want to shift
Starting point is 00:34:08 gears because it was just a wonderful, wonderful 24 hours and worth the first half hour of our show. Okay. But something else significant happened yesterday with respect to CBS news. So the audience may remember that CBS interviewed Kamala Harris right before 60 Minutes and, yeah, on 60 Minutes right before the election. And they put out this interview, which they sliced and diced. And you weren't quite sure what was, you know, was this the natural, like, was this a full interview or wasn't it? And then somebody online on Twitter was smart and pointed out that the tease that they had aired the day before on Face the Nation showed the interviewer's question, something like Netanyahu doesn't appear to be listening, and Kamala's answer. And then the next night when they aired the full thing or that, whatever, yeah, the Monday night, it was the same question with a different answer. And that led to this whole thing where Trump wound up suing CBS news for $10 billion for fraud, consumer fraud, defrauding consumers to win an election. And the FCC demanded a transcript
Starting point is 00:35:19 of the interview, which for some reason, CBS would just would not release. It became a big public firestorm. People said, just release the transcript. They said no. Well, now they've had to. They were forced to hand over the full raw video and transcript to the FCC this week. So it turns out now we know the full sit down with Kamala was just over 50 minutes. And what they ultimately aired was a cut down version that was about 20 minutes in length. Now that is typical for 60 minutes. They don't normally air their full interviews and they don't typically release the raw videos anywhere. But having said that, they've done it before. They released the full transcript, I think, or video of JD Vance.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Catherine Herridge was pointing that out. They've done it before. So once it became a controversy, why wouldn't they have done it, right? The preview clip hit Face the Nation. It didn't match the version we saw the next night on 60. And watch, you can see that discrepancy in this clip here. But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening. Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted in a number of movements in that region by Israel that were very much prompted by or a result of many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region. But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening. We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for the United States to be clear about where we stand on the need for this war to end. Not much better, but slightly more clear.
Starting point is 00:37:00 With the release of the full video, now we know how that whole thing actually took place. First, the question from Bill Whitaker was actually edited down and the part taken out was was more pointed than the way it aired in either version. And you can see the full Kamala answer to. Seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening. The Wall Street Journal said that he, that your administration has repeatedly been blindsided by Netanyahu. And in fact, he has rebuffed just about all of your administrations and treaties. Well, Bill, the work that we have done has resulted in a number of movements in that region by Israel that were very much prompted by or a result of many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region.
Starting point is 00:38:01 And we're not going to stop doing that. We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for the United States to be clear about where we stand on the need for this war to end. Okay. So what we learned is that the first half of that inane answer was aired on Face the Nation as a tease and on actual 60 Minutes, which aired the next night, they used the second half of the answer, which was more succinct, though I don't know that it was more clear. I'm going to have to say 60 might have just been shooting for something that was a little closer to comprehensible, if you want to
Starting point is 00:38:39 give them the benefit of the doubt. Neither answer was good. They both sucked. But now we do know that there wasn't more inanity stuck inside the answer. There were just those two bits of inanity and they chose one for face the nation and one for 60. Okay. But there's more because now we've seen the raw footage of the interview and we learned that the next 10 minutes of Q and a was edited out entirely. Again, this is always going to happen. It's not inappropriate to edit an interview with a presidential candidate. That is the format of 60. And most of us, if you know, have limited time and limited airspace to, to put our interviews up in this kind of thing. And I like a pre-taped setting with somebody who's important, not now, cause I'm on
Starting point is 00:39:19 podcasts, but back when I was on, you know, the cable news or the broadcast news. But look here at what we never got to see. We are a people who have ambition and aspirations and dreams and optimism and hope. If you look at the character of who we are and how we have achieved the strength that we have achieved, I believe in large part it is because of our character and our belief in the promise of America. And I'm running for president because I want to do everything that is possible to create an opportunity for people to achieve those goals, those ambitions, and those dreams. Okay. So she, she said absolutely nothing. You guys all know how many times we heard those stupid phrases, meaningless out of her mouth. You can make the argument that, okay, they didn't need
Starting point is 00:40:16 to include it because everybody's heard her say it. But you tell me whether it's putting the thumb on the scale editorially to take that out. In essence, you could make the case that you're running cover for her because she is showing what an empty vessel she is, that this is all she's got. This is a major, supposed to be substantive sit down. And that's what she fills it with? This completely empty calorie-less filler that she says everywhere. Like you'd have to have the debate internally about whether you're running cover for her in taking that out. Later in the interview, Kamala went on a bizarre side about picture day in school
Starting point is 00:40:57 in Ohio on the subject of the eating of the dogs and the cats in Springfield, Ohio, which they also saved her from. You know, when I was attorney general, the words I spoke could move markets. So the idea that the former president, who, again, is running to be president, would use that microphone in a way that is about vilifying and demeaning a whole population of people. You know what has happened because of that? One day when this happened was a school day, picture day for an elementary school. Picture day. You know what picture day is for our children?
Starting point is 00:41:40 Oh, gosh. They get excited the night before. We put out the clothes they're going to wear. They go to school making sure their faces are clean and their hair is done. And they go to school for picture day. You know what happened to these children? They had to evacuate that day. Because of the fear of the threats that were being issued in Springfield because of the words of Donald Trump. So I say that I'm glad you are pointing these comments out that he has made that have resulted in a response by most reasonable people
Starting point is 00:42:15 to say it's just wrong. It's just wrong. Unbelievable. That's where she went. Words have such power. What could happen to the children? Well, let's look at what did happen. Picture Day got spoiled. It got spoiled, I'm telling you, Bill. And by the way, then she references the bomb threats, which we know and knew were international. Some came from Russia. It had nothing to do with America. It was just shit-stirring from out of the country. But somehow that's Trump's fault, all of which would have led to criticism of Kamala Harris. And it got omitted from the interview. All they included was that last sentence. I'm glad you're pointing these comments out that he's made. They've, you know, led to a response from
Starting point is 00:42:58 people saying it's it's wrong. It's just wrong. All right. Another one. Now I'm going to get Andrew to comment on all this, but we had to get this to you. In another section, a substantive discussion on the border. And this part was edited out. There are a variety of factors that relate to what we have seen globally and what we are not immune from at our own border in terms of what we have seen in terms of surge of immigration and irregular migration. And there are solutions at hand, but we've got to have leaders who are solution oriented, which we've been and are, and I am going forward instead of leaders who want to make it a problem they can run on. She's a know nothing. So, Andrew Klavan, was it election interference, as some on the right claim, including President Trump this morning?
Starting point is 00:43:59 Just your typical 60 minutes cut down or them? I mean, my own vote is like. It's it's not I'm not surprised that all the edits they made were to her benefit. Well, I dozed off during those last two clips, so I can't really say too much about them, but I I think, look, you're right, it's subtle. And what they did is they turned her from the babbling idiot we know she is into a faintly coherent presence on the screen. And they did that because they all vote for Democrats and they want to support the Democrats and they hate Donald Trump. That's why they did it. But it's so subtle.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Can Trump win a lawsuit? Probably not. Maybe they'll settle, but probably not. But that doesn't matter. These people need to be shamed. There is no bigger criminal element in our country than the American legacy news media. They have really done us dirt. And as far as I'm concerned, each and every one of them should be paraded naked through the streets like in Game of Thrones while we throw rotten vegetables at them and cry shame, shame, shame.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Because what they have done is they've made it almost impossible to hold anybody to account. They have basically cut off the flow of a politician does something wrong. The reporter exposes the fact that he's wrong. He has to pay price for it, either legally or at the voting booth. That's the way a democracy is supposed to work. And it can't work without a free press. And we simply have not had a free press. If you look at this country since Obama was president, there's just been no penalty for bad actions. I mean, the IRS takes after Republicans, conservatives, nobody gets fired. Oh, there was not a scintilla of corruption there. You know, forget about it because the
Starting point is 00:45:38 press isn't looking into it. The press isn't exploring anything except how bad Donald Trump is. Most of and most of those stories were lies. So now you have the press that isn't exploring anything except how bad Donald Trump is. Most of and most of those stories were lies. So now you have the press that isn't even held to account. You know, they tell us that Biden is sharp as a tack. Nothing. Nobody quits. They tell us that, you know, there was Russian collusion. And then they give themselves Pulitzer Prizes for essentially elevating a Hillary Clinton dirty trick. They tell us that the Hunter Biden laptop isn't real and we have to therefore, you know, censor any reporter who
Starting point is 00:46:10 explores the fact that it is real. All of this stuff has been going on to cut off the people from any sense of reality. And I think it has played into the left's ability to tell us that boys can be girls. It's played into the left's ability to basically do terrible, the kind of terrible things that Elon Musk is exploring in our U.S. foreign aid. All of those things they've been allowed to do because the press just will not do its job. You actually have young reporters saying, we don't need to tell the facts. We need to tell the truth. And you say, honey, if you don't know the facts, you can't get at the truth. You don't know what the truth is until you get the facts and until you report the facts and let the people figure out what the
Starting point is 00:46:53 truth is. They've been demonizing Fox. And I know you've had your experiences with Fox News, but there is more real news on one hour of the Bret Baier special report show than there is on the rest of the media for a week. And the fact that they have been able to do these things without ever being held to account, it is to me glorious to see people being fired now, reporters being fired and replaced because they truly deserve it. These guys truly deserve to be shamed. So can Trump win this suit against CBS? I kind of doubt it, but it doesn't matter. Expose what they do. They're going to settle it. These guys truly deserve to be shamed. So can, can Trump win this suit against CBS? I kind of, I kind of doubt it, but it doesn't matter. Expose what they're going to settle. Yeah, they may well, they're going to settle it because CBS News Paramount is trying to merge
Starting point is 00:47:33 with this other group and they need government approval. So he's going to wind up getting another donation to his presidential library. I'm sure. Listen, I got, I've got to get to this before you go. You predicted the Bianca Sensore nudity at the Grammys. I mean, almost exactly. Here you were January 3rd, long before the Grammys aired, on your show, The Andrew Klavan Show. Watch. I predict that a starlet will show up at a French film festival wearing a completely transparent dress and a news site will describe the outfit as shocking, even though no one is shocked or even particularly interested. How did I mean, you said exactly what she did, a completely transparent dress. Yeah, I apologize to France for thinking that it would be them instead of us.
Starting point is 00:48:23 But I think I think the thing is, you know, listen, this is, this is my thing. If I have any superpower at all is that I follow the culture really closely. And because I am an artist and because I create things, I can actually tell where things are going simply by watching movies and watching TV shows like this. And it, it, it actually, it's actually not that hard once you're paying attention to that, instead of who's winning a congressional race in Ohio.
Starting point is 00:48:46 You can actually see where things are going. And this idea that, you know, it's kind of it's kind of a symbiotic relationship. These women dress in less and less and the media can basically get clicks by showing these half naked women. So they have to be shocked by it. But at some point, you know, we've seen what there is to see. We're not that shocked. And so it was kind of a natural conclusion that this was this was the way it was going to go. And I have to say, if at some at some point, I just feel pity for these girls. You know, I mean, I just feel like this is what they've got. You know, I mean, instead of showing up beautifully dressed and, you know, elegant and elevated so that we actually admire them, they just have this kind of thing we stare at, which is nakedness. And it's really kind of sad, actually. I know.
Starting point is 00:49:33 I'm waiting for somebody to show up dressed like a normal person and just holding up their SAT score. Wouldn't that be great? That's it. That would be shocking. Then even I would be shocked. Why? Who has the confidence to do that? It really like it doesn't take a lot to get attention, especially as a woman who happens to, in her case, be beautiful. Though my husband, Doug, was like, I'm like, she looks she has a beautiful body. He's like, she does not. She looks totally
Starting point is 00:50:01 manufactured like a Mr. Potato Head with all these huge parts added onto her. Fair point. But I'm just saying it's not hard, not hard to get attention as a nude woman at a public event if you want it. It's sad that these two felt it was their only way of getting their name in the news. Andrew Klavan, thank you. Great to see you, Megan. Thanks a lot. All right, coming up, I would say the man behind the RFKJ
Starting point is 00:50:26 nomination and pushing other senators to get on board, Senator Ron Johnson. And then Chuck Zito is here. Now's the time to prioritize gut health. Daily exposure to processed foods, work stress, fluoride in water, and environmental toxins, which are everywhere, can overwhelm your digestive system. The body faces constant attacks, but there's a way to fight back. Just Thrive Probiotic is a clinically proven probiotic and antioxidant with science-backed strains designed to keep the gut healthy and balanced. Unlike most probiotics that die in stomach acid, Just Thrive survives, delivering real results without gimmicks. Better digestion, a stronger
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Starting point is 00:51:44 We will scrutinize the chemical additives in our food supply. We will remove financial conflicts of interest from our agencies. We will create an honest, unbiased, gold standard science at HHS accountable to the president, to Congress, and to the American people. We will reverse the chronic disease epidemic and put the nation back on the road to good health. Godspeed, Bobby Kennedy. Let's hope you can do it. Welcome back to the Megyn Kelly Show. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was voted through the Finance Committee this week along party lines 14 to 13. That means he will be headed for the Senate floor for a full vote,
Starting point is 00:52:26 though that vote has not yet been scheduled. Reports are that it will likely happen next week. Will he make it? Joining me now with his prediction, U.S. Senator Ron Johnson of the great state of Wisconsin. Senator, welcome back. So this is important, and I know it's important to you personally. Our audience actually is very familiar, I think, with the roundtable you did on Maha issues with Casey and Callie Means, with so many people who are in support of RFKJ because they care about chronic disease in this country, an issue I know is near and dear to you. So your prediction on whether he makes it? Well, Megan, first of all, thanks for having me on. I'm optimistic now. I know that Dr. Cassidy, Senator Cassidy had some concerns. Those concerns were alleviated. So he voted for Bobby in committee. And I think that'll probably be the last hurdle. So I'm quite optimistic. And because you mentioned that panel, I thought that the most important snippet of testimony came from Dr. Chris Palmer. He was a psychiatrist and does a lot of
Starting point is 00:53:32 work with nutrition and mental health. And he made the point that they, whoever they are, they don't want to know the root cause of chronic illness because they are, interests. And if one of their ingredients, a herbicide, a pesticide, a pharmaceutical, a drug, if it's a contributing factor or a cause of chronic illness or autism, that will disrupt their multi-billion dollar business model. And of Bobby's testimony, I thought the fact that he said he spent the last few decades suing these agencies. He has a Ph.D. in corporate capture, which is why he is exactly the right person at the right moment in time here, because the American public in a completely nonpartisan fashion, they want to know what is causing chronic illness. They want to know what is causing the devastation of autism. I am I was thrilled to see Cassidy vote yes.
Starting point is 00:54:28 I want to say, again, thank you to the audience of this show because we gave out his contact information. And I'm sure his phones were ringing a lot. But I think they made the difference because it's not that often that a barrage of people start calling a U.S. senator's office or emailing the office. And indeed, Politico has a report out this week saying Cassidy acknowledged that his phone was ringing off the hook with calls from supporters of Kennedy and his Maha movement. So right on our listeners and viewers, you made a difference and America and your kids hopefully will be healthier as a result of it. I want to ask you about Cassidy, though. He sure did say that he extracted a lot of promises from Bobby in order to get the yes vote. We have some of this on camera. Let's watch. He and I would have an unprecedentedly close, collaborative working relationship.
Starting point is 00:55:23 We will meet or speak multiple times a month. He will maintain the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices recommendations without changes. CDC will not remove statements on their website pointing out that vaccines do not cause autism. But my support is built on insurances that this will not have to be a concern and that he and I can work together to build an agenda to make America healthy again. So he seems to be saying there that they're going to be super close or they're going to talk several times a month, that he promised that the immunization schedule recommended by the CDC will not change. That is controversial, just the schedule, not pulling
Starting point is 00:56:05 vaccines, but the schedule. And lastly, that he will not pull down the statement that the vaccines don't cause autism. So what do you make of that? Well, first of all, Senator Cassidy is chairman of the Health, Education, Labor, and Pension Committee. So I would expect the chairman of the committee would be in touch with the secretary of HHS frequently. So as I listen to what, you know, supposedly concessions, I don't really view them as many concessions whatsoever. You know, I know Bobby quite well. I've gotten to know him. We fought the same battle in terms of bringing truth to the American public during COVID. And he's very science-based. So he will, I think his first task is to restore integrity to science. We heard President Eisenhower in his farewell address, the second
Starting point is 00:56:51 warning after the military industrial complex was public funding of science. It was going to create a scientific and technological elite that would drive public policy. I would view that as corrupting science. Science has been corrupted. We have all kinds of evidence of that. And so Bobby's first task is to restore integrity to science. Make sure that the data is transparent, that you have everybody at the table. Now, you know, science sometimes is black and white, but often it is not, particularly when you're looking at cause and effect in the complexity of a human body. So again, my guess is, you know, Dr. Castie
Starting point is 00:57:27 is a doctor. He can look at evidence. Bobby Kennedy looks at evidence. He knows how to read science. So we will, our policies will follow where the science leads us, where the truth leads us. And I think both men, Dr. Castie and Bobby Kennedy, are going to come together on those points. So it shouldn't be controversial. You know, I think what Bobby's saying, he's not going to push getting rid of the MMR vaccine. Sorry, go ahead, Senator. Again, he's not going to do anything precipitously. He's going to become secretary and then he's going to restore integrity to science and let science guide his actions.
Starting point is 00:58:04 And my guess is Senator Cassidy will also allow let science guide his actions. And my guess is Senator Cassidy will also allow science to guide his action. And the fact of the matter is, we have not ever tested any of these childhood vaccines against true placebos. The ingredients, for example, the aluminum adjuvant, you know, I've learned was based on a study with four rabbits. You know, one of the rabbits, they lost the data on. The other ones were killed after 28 days. Autopsies performed, and the aluminum was still in their systems, in their organs. So, again, that needs to be looked at.
Starting point is 00:58:34 These are legitimate questions that we haven't even been allowed to ask. So Bobby Kennedy is still going to be able to ask these questions. He'll still be able to drive the science and then restore integrity to it. So again, I just don't view these as the serious concessions he's making. He's going to be very open. He's going to be transparent, which these agencies have not been because they have been captured. They have been corrupted. And I don't think Senator Cassidy is going to have a problem with the transparency within these agencies. Good. Well, good on him for coming to the right decision. And sorry for all the phone call centers, but you did the right thing. Not really. Sorry,
Starting point is 00:59:10 but I'm sure it was kind of annoying. OK, a couple of things to get to here. When I sat in that hearing, as when I sat in the Pete Hegseth hearing, I could not believe the performance by some of these Democrats, Senator. And as a member of the committee that was listening to the first day of RFKJ, I wonder what your reaction was when it spiraled down into moments like this one with Bernie Sanders. Are you supportive of this? I've had nothing to do with leadership.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Are you supportive of these onesies? I'm supportive of vaccines. Are you supportive of this clothing, which is militantly anti vaccine? What did you make of that? Well, you heard my reaction during my time to comment and question. First of all, it didn't surprise me, but it really disappointed me that the severe, extreme hostility of Democrats. Again, particularly knowing, you know, with the events I did on COVID and on, you know, nutrition and health, how completely nonpartisan it is. You know, most of the doctors in my panels were Democrats. They voted for Obama,
Starting point is 01:00:16 they voted for Biden, but none of that mattered to any of us. I mean, we were focusing on an area of agreement. That's what Bobby Kennedy wants to do. So it was very disappointing from a standpoint that Democrats couldn't recognize the moment that the American people are hungering for the information. They don't want to be ill. They don't want autism rates to continue to skyrocket. They want the truth. They want solutions. And there's nothing partisan about it. And let's face it, as Bobby Kennedy said, these people used to be my friends. I mean, his name is synonymous with the Democrat Party, but they have just turned on him viciously. And that's just disappointing, particularly in light of the fact that President Trump, Bobby Kennedy set aside the differences, focused on an area of agreement, chronic illnesses, and in so doing, demonstrate not only how you solve a problem, but how you heal and unify a badly divided, a horribly divided nation. There are reports out this morning that the Democrats are now getting ready to vote no
Starting point is 01:01:14 uniformly, all of them, on all of Trump's nominees, because this is their way, this is their new hashtag resistance effort, because they're angry about what he's doing with executive orders, with USAID and Elon. And so now there's a movement by Chuck Schumer to have them say no to everyone from this point forward. If so, it would mean the Republicans really can't lose more than three. So to get RFKJ or anybody else through, you'd have to make sure that Cassidy stays steady and that there's not another Cassidy lurking. We all know that possibly Murkowski, possibly Collins, possibly McConnell could be no's. So first, let me ask you, what do you think of that plan? And secondly, do you think that there is a different Cassidy who might surprise us and vote no against Kennedy? Because
Starting point is 01:01:58 we are going to need all the Republicans, I think. No, I don't think so. And I've had conversations with others. And again, I'm pretty confident that Bobby will be confirmed because most Republican senators have the same attitude as I have. We respect the convincing victory of President Trump. He's the one that decides who he wants serving his administration. Our job is to investigate, make sure there's nothing disqualifying in the background, but if not, vote to confirm. And I think that's what will end up happening in these cases. Plus with Bobby, I did the initial whip count on him. And it's really interesting how the conversation went with Republicans and Democrats. They would always start out saying, we know there's a lot that Bobby's doing that I really agree with, that I
Starting point is 01:02:41 really love. But, and he's alleviated those concerns, those butts. He's answered those questions. And people do realize I think even Democrats in their hearts realize that what Bobby Kennedy wants to do is unbelievably popular with the American public. But you don't think he's going to get any Democrat votes, do you? What's that? Will he get any Democrat votes? At this point, probably not, which is disappointing. You know, maybe John Fetterman. John is, you know, comes from a purple state. He's understanding the moment he's he has voted with Republicans when no other Democrat has.
Starting point is 01:03:17 So so possibly that. But it'd be nice. I think early on I was a little more hopeful. But again, based on the hearing, the hostility shown from from even members that are generally more moderate in their in their, you know, at least presentation came out pretty hostile. Well, I really hope that these Democrats, whether they vote for him or not, can get behind the Maha movement, which is not political, political at all. There are Democrat moms and Republican moms and dads for that matter, who want their kids to be safer and who want themselves to be safer. It's silly for people to prioritize this piece of our national conversation. It doesn't need to be politicized. Okay. You talked about these elites in the scientific field and how they've had a we know better than you approach and how this has been a longstanding fear in the United States. I've been watching as you have been over the past many months trying to get documentation from the CDC and the FDA and the National Institutes of Health on what was said internally when Fauci and the others were there
Starting point is 01:04:25 about myocarditis and pericarditis and other side effects and serious risks or adverse consequences of the COVID vaccine. And I have been watching as you've been getting stonewalled and stonewalled and documents that are supposed to look like this, but instead look like this because they've been so redacted, totally whited out as, as an effort to comply with your request.
Starting point is 01:04:50 So what happens now, Senator, because now we have president Trump's team going into those organizations, of course, RFKJ ideally at HHS. And then we're hoping Jay Bhattacharya at NIH, and we're hoping Martin McCary at FDA. So are we about to get the full disclosure on what they knew and when they knew it? You're aware of the fact that I have now issued what I'd consider a friendly subpoena for documents that, again, I've written over 70 oversight letters during the Biden administration and been basically given the middle finger. So top of the list was the last 50 pages of Anthony Fauci's emails unredacted. He released 4,000 through FOIA. They were heavily redacted, but even those were quite incriminating. We narrowed our search down to, or request down to 400. We've been allowed to go into reading room, take notes, but make no copies. And we got down the last 50 pages. They have not shown those to us. We've been looking for those for years. So
Starting point is 01:05:48 those should be produced unredacted. That'll be interesting. Plus the 17 pages of talking points, instead of issuing a warning on the health alert network on the myocarditis that they were getting reports on from Israel, for example, in the early months of 2021, right after the rollout, they were going to issue an alert on that health alert network. Instead, they came up with a 17-page talking point memo. It'll be really interesting to put together all the timelines of what these federal officials were telling the public, what lies they were telling the American public versus what they actually knew behind the scenes. But we should get those 17-page talking points. That should be pretty interesting as well.
Starting point is 01:06:26 But also, you know, their proportional reporting ratios, their empirical Bayesian analysis, which should be public information, but they've kept hidden, should also be pretty revealing. So again, we already know people like Fauci, Francis Collins, you know, these federal health officials lied to the American public repeatedly about their injections, about COVID. They didn't base things on science. They just pull it out of the air. I think there's going to be a reckoning. I think there's going to be a lot of truth being exposed here in the next couple of months. I'll be very interested to see what you guys find. Please keep us in the loop and we'll have you back on once you get your your information back. All right. Last but certainly not least, this historic executive order by President Trump today on women's girls, women's and girls sports,
Starting point is 01:07:13 keeping men and boys out of them. And we spoke with Coach Tuberville, Senator Tuberville, last week about why he can't get a vote on the Senate floor on his bill that would turn this exact executive order into law. We all love the four-year reprieve from this madness, but we'd much rather have it written into a law where the next president, if it were a Democrat, could not just revoke it with a different executive order. So what is your take, Senator, on why John Thune will not schedule a vote on the Protect Women and Girls in Sports Act? Oh, my guess is merely a timing issue. And again, President Trump has acted boldly, swiftly, decisively to make sure that girls
Starting point is 01:07:57 aren't going to be harmed by male athletes now. They're not going to be in their locker room, their bathroom, or they're going to risk, those organizations are going to risk loss of federal funding. So I think we have time to actually put this for a vote. Now, it'll be interesting to see whether Democrats will join us. Of all the crazy, I mean, just gobsmackingly crazy agenda items of the Democrat Party, the fact that they promoted this transgenderism agenda and allowed male athletes to compete against our girls is the most, like I say, just jaw dropping of all of them. So let's hope Democrats have seen the light and we can codify this so that the next crazy Democrat president doesn't go back to this transgenderism and put our girls and women at risk.
Starting point is 01:08:43 All right. When you say you think it's just a matter of timing, what does that mean? Because, you know, we don't want to wait until after the midterms when we might not control both houses of Congress with sane people who will vote for this. So what does that mean? I mean, are you confident that Thune will bring it to the floor for a vote in the Senate? Yeah, I'd be shocked if he didn't. Again, Democrats are not cooperating on nominations, so we're having to run the clock. And we have limited time for legislation right now. It's all about confirming President Trump's nominees so they can start getting in there, cleaning out the deep state. Again, I think the confirmation process is completely out of control. I would dramatically reduce the number of confirmed
Starting point is 01:09:19 positions for both Democrat and Republican presidents, but that's not the state. And so right now, top priorities, get these people in place. And we'll turn our attention to this. Again, this would be a pretty, I think, a high priority bill to get on the Senate floor to at least put Democrats on notice, put them on record that they really want biological males to harm our girls. I don't think that's a good vote for them. 67% of Democrats are in favor of Trump's policy. 67% of Democrats, 79% of the electorate as a whole. So you should bring it to a floor. Make them say no. Make them say no before the midterms. That would be really fun to watch. A couple of things. You mentioned you're in a big push to get Trump's nominees through. Well, in the wake of the funding freezes that
Starting point is 01:10:06 Trump issued early last week, both with respect to some foreign aid, now we've got the USAID controversy and other issues. The Democrats have decided to make Russ vote the nominee for OMB, Office of Management and Budget. They're a new fall guy. They they don't want him to get through, but they can't stop him because he does have the votes. So they're doing like a sleep in. I guess they can they can delay the vote by 30 hours. Here is Chris Murphy, Democrat senator from Connecticut, on the on this sacrifice he and his staffers have made. I took the 2 a.m. Actually, I was on the floor about 1 a.m., so about 1 a.m. to 5 a.m. shift. I slept on my couch for about two hours of fitful sleep. I'm back up and headed off campus right now to talk about the danger of Trump's foreign policy. We
Starting point is 01:11:00 don't rest. We don't rest. This is an urgent moment. We have days or weeks to be able to mount an effective opposition to stop this slide away from democracy. And so I thank all my colleagues who have been part of this important night, and we're going right back at it today. They don't rest. Senator, your response? Big whoop, huh? What a charade. Again, they're not cooperating. They're dragging their feet. They're making us round the clock. But Russ Vogt, by the way, one of the better, if not best, nominees for President Trump
Starting point is 01:11:34 because Russ is head of OMB. He writes the rules, the regulations to implement a lot of what President Trump is trying to do. And so he's just a key figure, highly experienced, very conservative. So I'm a big Russ Volt supporter. Are you resting on the GOP? Did you sleep on a cot? We've done some of that stuff, too. But again, really, I'm not into feudal in general. Every now and then you just got to show your supporters you're willing to fight. That's what Democrats are doing. Like I say, big whoop. It's no big deal. Right. They're yelling into the wind, which is a cleaned up version of the way that saying normally goes. Senator, it's a pleasure. Thanks so much for being here.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Thanks for having me on. Have a great day. You too. Ron Johnson, everyone. Okay. Up next, Chuck Zito is here, superstar, former Hell's Angel, bodyguard, stuntman, actor, friend of Trump. I mean, he's a man of many trades and he is here in his full glory right after this break. These days, personal safety is not something that can be left to chance. Whether at home, on the road, or just living everyday life, having a reliable way to protect yourself and your family is crucial. This is why Burna is the choice for so many. Burna is a game-changing, less lethal self-defense tool.
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Starting point is 01:15:10 Stuntman, actor, celebrity bodyguard, martial arts expert and former Hell's Angel. That is just part of the colorful resume of my next guest, Chuck Zito. You may remember Chuck caused quite a stir back in May when he was spotted at Trump's business records trial in New York. He was part of the Trump entourage. The media had a field day reporting that a former leader of the Hells Angels joined Trump in court. We've got a verdict. Breaking news, a verdict has been reached in Donald Trump's criminal hush money trial. Whether or not they were focusing on Trump's entourage, it's hard to tell. I will say just as an observer in the courtroom, the entourage today is colorful.
Starting point is 01:15:51 You know, if you look at the entourage today, you see Alan Dershowitz, you see Chuck Zito, the former president of the Hells Angels. This is a show of force. This is deliberate. And quite frankly, this is genius. The Hells Angels leader is a very large man wearing a very flamboyant suit. Donald Trump had a new entourage supporting him in court today. One of the people who showed up, actor Chuck Zito,
Starting point is 01:16:12 used to lead the New York chapter of the Hells Angels. That is amazing. A large man in a flamboyant suit. That clip is from a forthcoming documentary called Chuck Zito, An American Story. Chuck, welcome back. Great to have you. Thank you for having me. How can people watch the documentary, first of all?
Starting point is 01:16:30 Well, it's not finished yet. We just had the premiere at Mar-a-Lago last week. We're going back to change a few pieces in it. Okay. Because so many people are interested in it, like Netflix and Amazon Prime, so many people. So I was told by one of the networks to just, there was a couple of repeats in it.
Starting point is 01:16:57 So we're going back to- Tighten it up a little. Drawing board and tighten it up. And we're going to have a premiere in April in New York. Okay. So it'll be perfect then. I love it. What do you make of that description of yourself?
Starting point is 01:17:09 Flamboyant man in a suit, former Hell's Angel. I mean, yes, somewhat. Yeah. Well. You look good. Thank you. Thank you. All right.
Starting point is 01:17:18 So I learned something in preparing for this interview that I did not know before. I didn't know that. I mean, I knew Hell's Angels. I always knew that they were kind of like bad boys, kind of cool, badass. But I didn't know that there's some rumors that you like might have to kill somebody to become a part of the Hells Angels. That's a myth. That's not true.
Starting point is 01:17:36 That goes along with everybody. Of course not. So what's, like, what are the Hells Angels? It's a motorcycle club. Guys who get together, ride motorcycles. You have to be admitted? Well, you have to... There's a hang around process, then a prospecting process before you become a member.
Starting point is 01:17:53 So you have to know someone to hang out first and then prospect and goes down the line. Is it all Harleys? Well, in the United States it is, but overseas, a lot of guys couldn't get Harleys. And then now a lot of guys I've heard are using, some guys are using Indians and some guys BMWs. But back in the day when I was there, it was all Harleys. So you grew up where? In the Bronx. I was born in the Bronx, then moved to Brooklyn. Yep.
Starting point is 01:18:27 My dad grew up in Brooklyn too. And so, but, and we both lost our dads at young ages. You were only 12. Well, no, no. You were young in that? Actually, when I say I lost my dad, it was when they got divorced. Oh, okay. So. Okay.
Starting point is 01:18:40 I was, then my dad lived to 78 and he died in 1998. But when I say I lost my dad, it means that when they got divorced, I was always looking up to my dad and I tried to follow in his footsteps, being a boxer and everything. And that's when I say, I should have made a little clearer on the thing because people think I'm 12 years old and I lost my dad. I know, it was sweet. Even my sister says, what do you mean? Well, it sounded like you really looked up to him. Oh, absolutely. You followed his footsteps into the boxing world.
Starting point is 01:19:08 My father was a great fighter back in the day in the 30s and the 40s. Years ago, guys had hundreds of fights. My father had 228 fights back in the day in a 12-year career. And won most of them. He won a lot of them, absolutely. He lost 20. But he used to get paid $10 a fight. Now today they're making $400 million in one fight.
Starting point is 01:19:32 That's like Jimmy Braddock type story. Yeah, James Braddock, yeah. There's great fighters like Floyd Mayweather. He's 50 and 0, but he's fighting like 28 years. There's a guy named Harry Greb back in the day. Floyd went 50 and 0 in 28 years. Harry Greb went 52 and 0 in one year. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 01:19:55 So it's a big difference. So you decided to follow the old man's footsteps and get into fighting boxing? Yes, of course. Growing up with my dad and his, you know, I had I was living in the Bronx on Beretto Street and Hunts Point at the time. And even in my documentary, I was five years old and this guy Butch, like from the Little Rascals, used to beat me up every day. So I went crying home with my dad one time. He said, don't ever come crying home to me. He's going to teach you how to defend yourself. So he pulled out his trunk and he had all his, you know, his gloves and his robe and his head gear and everything in there.
Starting point is 01:20:28 And he put the gloves on me, you know, my, the gloves went up to my elbows and he got on his knees and started teaching me how to box. You learn from the best. Yeah. So, so I noticed too, because there's a lot, there's a big group today that's very into mixed martial arts and jujitsu in particular yes people are loving i know joe rogan loves it i know um jaco willink he came on the show and said he believes we should all have our kids learning jujitsu not just for the physical you know nature of it and its self-defense but the discipline the mental discipline that comes with it and the respect and you how many black belts do you have? I've trained eight different styles in martial arts.
Starting point is 01:21:09 I first, after seeing Bruce Lee and the Green Hornet, I said, I want to be like Bruce. So I went down to Aaron Branks' karate studio in New York City and started taking white crane and tiger claw kung fu with Mr. Chin. You're very impressionable. You saw the dad do the boxing. You did the boxing. And you saw Bruce Lee.
Starting point is 01:21:27 I'm glad you didn't watch Tootsie too many times. Every time I saw someone like Steve Reeves, he was, I think, the greatest body. I saw him in Hercules. Hercules Unchained. I said, I want to look like Steve. And you love Superman too, right? Superman.
Starting point is 01:21:44 Mighty Mouse. I used to watch that Superman show every you love Superman too, right? Superman. Didn't I read that? Mighty Mouse. I used to watch that Superman show every day after school. It was in black and white. They'd run the reruns. Yes. With the original. You know, now it would look so dated to us, right?
Starting point is 01:21:54 But it was great at the time. All right. So you start doing the jujitsu or you start taking the martial arts? I started boxing for a long time. After seeing Bruce Lee, of course, like I said, I started taking martial arts. I've trained eight different styles of martial arts. I went from white crane and Thai claw kung fu to Chiquita Jiu-Jitsu, Komiti Ryu Jiu-Jitsu,
Starting point is 01:22:15 BNS Jiu-Jitsu. Oh, wow. I never even heard of that. And I trained with Henzo Gracie in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Do you have a favorite of those? Like, if I'm going to have my kids take Jiu-Jitsu, which one would it? Well, you know, I, I also did a Japanese jujitsu,
Starting point is 01:22:32 which is a form of everything, you know, ground grappling, boxing, everything, but a Brazilian jujitsu, let's face it. They, the ones who brought it to the Octagon, you know, the Gracies, you know, they first brought it here before, you know, Fatidus bought the UFC and Dan White became president. So it was guys like John Milius, the director. He designed the octagon. And a guy named Mark Davey who had the Tough Band concerts back in the day. So it was those three, the Gracies and Art Davey and John Milius started the UFC.
Starting point is 01:23:02 So if you've got all these black belts and all this discipline in the martial arts, how long would it take you to knock me out if you wanted to? You? I've never hit a girl in my life. If you had to, let's say like 30 seconds, 60 seconds. Boom. He's flicking his fingers. Actually, that's what, well, his show he did. So, he asked me how long would it take him to knock me out.
Starting point is 01:23:30 I said, it'd be over by now. It already would have happened. Yeah, yeah. Well, you're not afraid of, not a girl, but you're not afraid of punching a celebrity because I've heard there was an incident with Jean-Claude Van Damme. I've had a few. What happened with him? That's why I don't work that much. What happened? I was just, you know, we got along real well. I was his bodyguard in 1992. And we went our separate ways. And I didn't see him until six years later. And he came
Starting point is 01:24:00 in with Mickey Rourke and my five guys and Scores I was having dinner. I'm familiar with scores. Scores. That's where all the beautiful women went to dance. That was back in the day. So we had a little argument and, you know, I felt bad because I got so much publicity from somebody else's misfortune. How did he upset you? He just said something to one of the attendants in the men's room when he was in there. Said disrespectful. So I went up to him and...
Starting point is 01:24:32 About you. You know what? It happened... Yeah, yeah. It's a long time ago. 29 years ago. Almost 30 years ago. But I like to talk about it.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Is it like an Italian thing? Like you got offended. He offended you. He insulted you. Of course. I mean, you know, you got to, you know, back up your words. So, and that's what happened. So you went over and gave it to him.
Starting point is 01:24:51 Yeah. And he did not. But it took 17 years for us to talk again. So we're friends now. And like I said, it happened so long ago. Right. He goes down. No, it's like, you don't want to insult him.
Starting point is 01:25:04 I understand. That's sweet. Yeah. But most of us, the thought of punching Jean-Claude Van Damme is horrifying. We'd get punched back and it would not go well for us. You have a lot of experience. He insults you, you take him down. And then there's actually a really fun epilogue to the story 17 years later. 17 years later. Yes. What happened? I was actually at a Floyd Mayweather when he fought, uh,
Starting point is 01:25:26 Pacquiao, Pacquiao Mayweather fight. And, uh, Floyd got out of the ring, went to his family first. I was the second one he came up to. He hugged me and they had the camera on me.
Starting point is 01:25:38 So Jean-Claude was home with his, with his, um, daughter and, uh, Bianca. And he goes, that's Chuck Zito. She goes, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:47 He goes, invite him to my documentary. Invite him to my movie. He just came out with a new movie. So I went and we saw each other. And he says, thanks for coming. I said, thanks for inviting me. And we hugged and kissed each other. And it was over.
Starting point is 01:25:59 What? After 17 years. Good for him. Yeah. So we're friends. That's great. I hate to bring it up because it was so long ago. No, you didn't. I brought it up. It for him. Yeah. So we're friends. That's great. I hate to bring it up because it was so long ago. No, you didn't. I brought it up. It's not your fault. So you, but the reason he knew you
Starting point is 01:26:10 prior to that whole incident, you pointed out was you were his bodyguard. So you took your background and learning self-defense and so on and parlayed that into like being a celebrity bodyguard. You bodyguarded some of the best. Everybody you can think of back in the day. Liza Minnelli was my first client. She's amazing. So, of course, being around Liza, when I met President Trump,
Starting point is 01:26:35 we were at the same restaurant, same clubs, and of course, we became friends and we've been friends over 40 years now. She's in one of my and my husband's very favorite movies,
Starting point is 01:26:43 Arthur. Oh, that's great. She's hysterical. That was amazing. In that movie., Arthur. Oh, that's great. She's hysterical. That was amazing. In that movie. Yeah, she used to be a huge, huge star. Yeah. So that's interesting.
Starting point is 01:26:50 You got like one foot into the celebrity world with her and that opened up lots of doors. Yes, a lot of doors, a lot of doors. And she was doing a play called The Rink with Chita Rivera at the Martin Beck Theater years ago. So everybody came to see Liza. I mean, you know, Elizabeth Taylor, Liberace, Don Rickles, you know, Robert De Niro, everybody. You know, Al Pacino, everybody came to see her. So they had to go through me to get to her. Wow.
Starting point is 01:27:19 So, of course, I met everybody and we all became friends all these years. Who stands out as like a particularly great person? You know what? Everybody had their own character because everybody says, who was the best one you worked for? Everybody had their own character and their own, you know, their own way. And so. Was there anybody like the guests who came to visit her who you didn't like?
Starting point is 01:27:40 Well, no. Well, they were all, you know, superstars at the time. But you know, you're a superstar. You can see the ones who are super nice even to the bodyguard and the ones who aren't. Well, everybody was. Well, they were all, you know, superstars at the time. But, you know, you're a superstar. You can see the ones who are super nice even to the bodyguard and the ones who aren't. Well, everybody was nice to me. I have to admit it. That's good. So if they weren't, then we took it to the next level.
Starting point is 01:27:54 But I remember I used to wear rings when I was in a club on every finger. And I was Liberace came in and we were comparing rings. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. What is this ring? This is actually Elvis Presley's exact copy of Elvis Presley. Can you guys see it here?
Starting point is 01:28:10 See if you can see it. TCB. What does that stand for? Taking care of business and flesh. Oh, it's beautiful. It's very gold. It's got,
Starting point is 01:28:18 it's very large and it's got a diamond front. And I got to show it to you. Okay. Thank you. Oh my gosh. Must weigh five pounds. It's, I just showed up
Starting point is 01:28:30 to the camera, can see it. So this is Elvis Presley's? It was, exactly, his is in the Graceland, of course, but that's exactly the same.
Starting point is 01:28:38 I had it made in gold and everything, like his, the original one. That alone is self-defense. Yeah. That right there. But I would never. Yeah, but if you needed to. Oh yeah, there's another one. What alone is self-defense. Yeah. That right there. But I would never. Yeah. But if you needed to. Oh yeah. There's another one. What's that?
Starting point is 01:28:48 Boxing glove. That was my, my father's ring. Oh, wow. So there's a scene in the movie where Sylvester Stallone, who I know you also bodyguarded, but it must feel like a very big responsibility. I mean, if he can't take care of it himself, it's a serious threat. So it's gotta be. I bodyguarded for Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, Mike Tyson. Wow. They could take care of themselves, but they're not in a position to get involved with somebody, of course. Yeah. Look what happened to Mike on a plane and everybody else.
Starting point is 01:29:16 And we saw Conor McGregor at the inauguration. He had a bunch of bodyguards too for the same reason. It's not that they can't protect themselves. Look at Floyd. He walks around with 10 guys. I mean, you know, you don't want to get sued. Uh, here's a bit from Sly, uh, and brother Frank in your documentary, South 44. I guess it was at pretty much the height of my popularity. So they overdid it, you know, with security thing, you know, at the time, whoever was in charge of security said,
Starting point is 01:29:46 oh, well, we need more people. And then Chuck and a few of his friends volunteered. And being a very outgoing guy, he struck up a conversation. I noticed, you know, we kind of looked like very similar, like brothers in a sense. Of course, he looked just like him. He looked more like him than I did. I was being hunted, and since we looked alike, I was hoping they'd shoot Chuck.
Starting point is 01:30:06 That was actually the motivation. I gave him a t-shirt with a bullet on it. Nice. Now I know why he hired me. Is he not a great guy? Yes. He's a true gentleman. He's brilliant. He wrote
Starting point is 01:30:22 Rocky back in the day, and nobody could do it but him. And he was, he was brilliant. He came, you know, the franchise, Rocky, Rambo, uh, uh, Expendables. He's just a great guy and a very talented and a great writer. Absolutely. He's, um, as he was speaking there, we heard a soundtrack pop in from Joan Jett. Joan Jett.
Starting point is 01:30:43 And there's a reason we have Joan Jett. She's also in the documentary talking about her relationship with you. Here's a bit from Joan. This is great. And the next time we saw him was in Japan. That whole tour that we did, we went to tour in Japan in 1985. We had them in our crew. And the way I looked at it is they were doing security and had to do it for us at some points. Okay, so just the fact that you know Joan Jett is so cool. She's just cool. She's, you know, she's the queen of rock and roll.
Starting point is 01:31:19 Yeah. She started at 15 on runways and then broke off and did Joan Jett and the Blackhearts. All of her music is still Turn Up the Diode. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. She does all the music for my documentary. These people must really like you to have appeared in the film, you know, because it's
Starting point is 01:31:36 one thing, like, I've had lots of bodyguards here or there at various events. I'm not sure, like, they'd ever call me to be in one of their movies. So how do you maintain it? Like what happens there? Well, you know, every, like I said, everybody I worked for, we had a great relationship and we became friends. Like, like I said, Liza was my first, my first client. Sly Sloan became my friend. We became good friends. And I just asked these people if they would come on and do my documentary. And not one hesitation. Wow.
Starting point is 01:32:10 Everybody came and did it. Because in between the boxing and the martial arts and the bodyguarding, there was a stint, she mentioned Japan, where there was some brief time in the slammer. It was brief. I spent four months in a Japanese prison. Okay. Wasn't good. But I was locked down 23 hours a day.
Starting point is 01:32:33 And they put you out in the cage. In Japan. And then you had to come back here and go to jail. Then I came back here. But the worst prison in the United States is like a country club compared to Japan. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:44 That was like my first time in jail Japan. Oh, really? Yeah. That was like my first time in jail. I said, well, I hope they're not all the prisons like this. They were accusing you of a drug crime. Yes. Okay. I was indicted for making a telephone call to a guy who sold a pound of methamphetamine. I never made the phone call. I was in British Columbia making a movie called Year of the Dragon. I showed them my receipts, my phone bills, everything. But they wanted me because at the time I was the president of the club, my club, you know, Hells Angels Nomads. And the government wants you, they're going to get you. Yeah, that's absolutely right.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Of course, they want you to, you know, talk on your friends and all. Of course, you know, I wouldn't. And I wound up getting a phone count is four years. The judge gave me 10. Wow. So i wound up getting uh a phone count is four years the judge gave me 10 wow so is it true you went to like 18 different prisons though in that 19 why so many well i had a few uh problems with some people and uh every time you have a fight they transfer you because they didn't want retaliation shock so i had probably 10 good fights in prison. Whoa. Yeah. You're one of the few people who wasn't afraid going in.
Starting point is 01:33:48 Yeah. But this becomes kind of relevant to your friendship with Trump. I mean, when he got indicted on criminal charges for his alleged bookkeeping errors, that must have struck home in a particular way. Like I said, I went to his trials and we've been friends for a long time.
Starting point is 01:34:06 And what they've done to him, you could never, I would never imagine it in, you know, a hundred years that they could do that to a former president and one who's, you know, running now. How'd you guys meet? We met at a, basically, we met at a restaurant at first and then I was with Liza and they've been friends for a long time. And of course,
Starting point is 01:34:29 3054, we saw each other. So everybody used to go there back in the day. Everybody. Yep. Somebody was always there. So,
Starting point is 01:34:38 and I used to work also at Cafe Central, uptown. And every, no matter what night it was, you'd see 10 actors there. You know, Eliza Minnelli and Bruce Willis was the bartender. Oh, no way. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:53 He used to make me eight creams. You're kidding me. Yeah, before he was a big star. Sure, sure. And everybody was there. Eliza Minnelli, Cher, Peter Riegut, Treat Williams, John Goodman. Yeah. De Niro, Pacino, Joe Pesci.
Starting point is 01:35:07 Everybody used to go to Cafe Central. And Trump. And Trump. So you maintained a friendship all this time. He's in the documentary. We have a little bit of him. Do we? Yes, I think we do.
Starting point is 01:35:19 I saw him. Oh, we don't have the clip, but I saw him. And he goes on and on about you and how much he likes you. He is so great. I mean, I am so blessed and honored that he did it for me. You got to realize he's the president of the United States, the most powerful man in the world, and he opens and closes my documentary.
Starting point is 01:35:35 He's loyal. So I am so honored and humbled that he did that. And he's loyal. So why did you feel it was important to go to the trial? Because he was getting railroaded, and I wanted to stick up for him i stick up for my friends and i want to show my support and uh you know support him i mean uh they charge him with all these you know phony charges and everything and we know that so uh and we know i don't care what they say when he was that that that um was fixed you know when he when he won the election 20 absolutely you do not believe it
Starting point is 01:36:14 we all went to sleep president trump was winning we woke up and biden was a president who never campaigned so it was all fixed. I say that and I still say it. And what did you think on November 5th when you saw the returns coming in? Oh, I was there. I was at the. Mar-a-Lago? No, I was at in Washington for when he won, of course. I mean, we're all just.
Starting point is 01:36:43 He's as far as I'm concerned, he's the greatest president we ever had in the United States. He, he, he, you know, promises and keeps it. And he's just great. You spent a whole life between the Hells Angels, not to mention the prison time, the boxing, the mixed martial arts, the bodyguarding. Yes. How does, I mean,, the bodyguarding. Yes. How does, I mean, Trump's also extremely tough.
Starting point is 01:37:09 Yes. So you know about tough guys. I call him a savage because he is. Who, any other president or anybody else who gets shot, they'd be under that counter there. And he got up, he's, wait, wait wait when he put up fight fight fight he's just i mean there's nobody like him he's just so so nothing fazes them i mean uh and they tried and you know what to get when i'm crazy it gets me that people say it was staged oh it's infuriating
Starting point is 01:37:41 you know what cory comparatory lost his life shielding his family that's right the other two two guys were shot also and they think he's going to say do me a favor just nick my ear i know it's ridiculous and that's how some people think and that's what gets me furiated it's such an insult it's it is an assault and uh it's people stole a lot of he's doing the first hour he was elected. I mean, he started signing the orders and he's going to change this country around back to the way it was. Have you seen like a big change from the Donald Trump you knew back in the day at, you know, the cocktail lounges and the one who you see now? Well, you know what?
Starting point is 01:38:22 He's the same guy to me, but he's just so strong. Like I said, he's resilient. He's nobody like him. And, uh, I love the guy. I mean, I'd do anything for him, but, uh, we've never had a president like him. And you gotta realize years ago, I never got involved with who was the president who cared. It wasn't to President Trump. It was the first time I ever voted. Really? First time. I never cared before. And until the day he became president,
Starting point is 01:38:54 I mean, all those other people, all those woke people, all those phony people out there, I didn't like them. But like I said, I never cared about who was president before, but they talked since the day he became president. They have not stopped talking about him all these every day. You heard president Trump, president Trump and everything else. But as far as I'm concerned, he's the greatest president we
Starting point is 01:39:15 ever had. Well, he obviously, and he's for the American people in America. And he's for you because I mean, he's very busy man to take the time out to appear in this film. All these people, I think that's something extraordinary about you, Chuck. And I really enjoyed the story. You are a colorful character. I can see why so many have gravitated towards you. All right. So keep us abreast on when it's actually going to hit and where. And we will update the audience so that they can enjoy what I enjoyed.
Starting point is 01:39:40 So nice to have you here. Thank you. I'm a big fan of yours. Thank you. You remind me of me because you say exactly what's on your mind, no matter who likes it. I'm the same way. I'm honored. I've been a fan, big fan of yours for years.
Starting point is 01:39:51 Thank you very much. I really appreciate it. Thank you for having me again. We'll do it all over again when the actual film hits. Wow. Right. Chuck Zito, everybody. We're going to be back tomorrow, but I do want to tell you before we go, you got to go to megankelly.com. All right. And there you can sign up for our once,
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