The Megyn Kelly Show - Trump's "Permanent Pause" After DC Attack, Alleged "Second Strike" Under Scrutiny: AM Update 12/1

Episode Date: December 1, 2025

President Trump rolls out a "permanent pause" on immigration from Third World countries after an Afghan national allegedly ambushed two National Guard soldiers in Washington, DC, killing one and criti...cally injuring the other, as well as mounting Somali fraud scandals in Minnesota. Two weeks after six Democrat lawmakers urged troops to ignore hypothetical illegal orders, the Washington Post and CNN report an alleged "second strike" order tied to Secretary of War Pete Hegseth that some say could be illegal. Senator Cory Booker caps off the holiday weekend with a surprise wedding to Alexis Lewis after a short, highly enthusiastic, engagement. Walmart: Learn how Walmart is fueling the future of U.S. manufacturing at https://Walmart.com/America-at-work All Family Pharmacy: Don’t miss All Family Pharmacy’s Black Friday BOGO—buy one get one free at https://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/MEGYN before December 2. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Neither cough nor cold nor gloom of muscle aches stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed AM update. Forgive the voice. I'm fine. I'm on the mend, at least. Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. It's Monday, December 1st, 2025, and this is your AM update. The president is absolutely determined to stop all processes at this point in time from third world countries. President Trump announcing a series of immigration restrictions following. the ambush of two National Guard soldiers in D.C. by an Afghan national. Multiple Somali fraud scandals rock Minnesota, and President Trump takes action. They may find out, you know, down the road that they did something that is illegal. It is not fair to that. Just weeks after a group of
Starting point is 00:00:46 Democrat lawmakers stirs up controversy about hypothetical illegal military orders, the media suddenly finds a story to match the fake concern. And Senator Cory Booker ties the knot after a very brief and super smiley engagement. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM update. When customers are walking through the aisles of their local Walmart, they are not just picking up groceries or supplies. They are supporting American businesses and their communities. The real story is what's behind the label. With over two-thirds of the products Walmart buys made, grown, or assembled right here in the U.S., buying local is not just stocking shelves. It's about strengthening communities. Because of that commitment, Walmart invested
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Starting point is 00:02:20 accused of ambushing two National Guard soldiers in Washington, D.C. last week. On Wednesday, 29-year-old suspect Ramanola Lockenwall allegedly shooting 20-year-old specialist Sarah Bexstrom and 24-year-old staff sergeant Andrew Wolfe, both members of the West Virginia National Guard, and what officials described as a targeted attack, just blocks from the White House. At the time, Bexstrom and Wolf were on patrol as part of President Trump's crime crackdown in the district. Bexstrom died the following day on Thanksgiving. Wolf still hospitalized in critical condition. Lockenwall shot and apprehended by another guard member after the attack, then taken to a hospital,
Starting point is 00:03:02 the Daily Wire reporting he is expected to survive. U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, Janine Piro, on Friday, announcing the suspect's charges upgraded to first-degree murder following Bextram's death, in addition to two counts of assault with intent to kill while armed. Piro also saying Lockenwall lives in Bellingham, Washington, with his wife and five children. Law enforcement carried out a raid on the property. He reportedly drove from Washington State across the country to carry out the attack. Fox News reporting, Lock and Wall worked with the CIA and other government entities in Afghanistan before the Biden administration's disastrous August 2021 withdrawal from the country.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Lock and Wall entering the U.S. the following month under Operation Allies Welcome, an emergency resettlement program bringing thousands of Afghanis to the U.S. who were at risk of Taliban retaliation due to their cooperation with U.S. forces. At the time, many critics, including then-Senate candidate, J.D. Vance, slamming the program, raising serious national security concerns regarding the lack of ability to adequately vet the newcomers. CIA director John Ratcliffe telling Fox Digital, quote, the individual and so many others should have never been allowed to come here. Reuters reports his asylum application was approved in April of this year. Secretary Nome Sunday on ABC saying investigators are working to determine the motive and sharing new details about the suspect.
Starting point is 00:04:31 And now since he's been here, we believe he could have been radicalized in his home community and in his home state. So as we continue to talk to his family and his contacts, more details will be revealed and we'll release those when it's appropriate. So he came from Afghanistan and was radicalized in America? That's great. Just great. The Associated Press reporting Saturday, Lockenwell had been struggling for years, quote, unable to hold a job and flipping between long, lightless stretches of isolation and taking sudden weeks-long cross-country drives. The AP also reporting that a community advocate once contacted a refugee organization due to fears that Lockenwell was suicidal. President Trump
Starting point is 00:05:16 responding to the attack with a series of orders aimed at cracking down on immigration, in addition to the deployment of 500 more troops to D.C. From Palm Beach, Mr. Trump posting this video Wednesday night. As president of the United States, I am determined to ensure that the animal who perpetrated this atrocity pays the steepest possible price. This attack underscores the single greatest national security threat facing our nation. The last administration led in 20 million unknown and unvetted foreigners from all over the world from places that you don't want to even know about. No country can tolerate such a risk to our very survival. On Friday, the Trump administration reportedly halting all asylum application processing.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Secretary Nome Sunday on NBC asked if President Trump is planning to end all immigration into the U.S. The president is absolutely determined to stop all processes at this point in time from third world countries until we can have a thorough opportunity to go through these individuals, know that they're here for their right intentions, and that they even should be in our country to begin with. He's putting Americans first, their safety first. President Trump's immigration crackdown taking specific aim at the Somali community in Minnesota. In November, reporting from the Manhattan Institute's City Journal, alleging that networks within the Minnesota-Somali community ripped off state Medicaid and
Starting point is 00:06:47 social services programs of more than a billion dollars, with millions reportedly sent back to Somalia via remittances where the al-Shabaab terrorist group then takes a cut. In the wake of that reporting, President Trump announcing the termination of temporary protected status for Somali nationals in Minnesota, a move ultimately only affecting a few hundred out of tens of thousands of Somalis in the U.S. But the president's crackdown escalating sharply in the wake of the attack on two National Guardsmen in D.C. Mr. Trump posting on Thanksgiving to True Social, quote, I will permanently pause migration from all third world countries
Starting point is 00:07:25 and remove anyone who is not a net asset to the U.S. or is incapable of loving our country. And all federal benefits and subsidies to non-citizens of our country, denaturalize migrants who undermine domestic tranquility, and deport any foreign national who is a public charge, security risk, or non-compatible with Western civilization. Then, on Saturday, the New York Times with its own lengthy report with the headline, quote, how fraud swamped Minnesota's social services system on Tim Walz's watch.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Way to get scooped by City Journal, Times. The Times detailing federal prosecutors charging dozens of people with felonies for their alleged roles in the feeding our future fraud scheme, which involved COVID-era programs meant to feed hungry children. According to the DOJ, the money instead was used by mostly Somali immigrants, to funnel hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars into luxury cars, homes, and even overseas investments. Prosecutors so far convicting 59 people across three major schemes, the Meals Program, a program
Starting point is 00:08:30 for individuals at risk for homelessness, and an autism therapy program with losses totaling more than $1 billion. Of the 86 people charged in connection with these schemes, all but eight members of Minnesota's Somali community. Governor Waltz gently asked about the reporting Sunday on NBC, deflecting the criticism. Do you take responsibility for failing to stop this fraud in your state? Well, certainly I take responsibility for putting people in jail. Governors don't get to just talk theoretically.
Starting point is 00:09:02 We have to solve problems. And I will note, it's not just Somalis. Minnesota is a generous state. Minnesota is a prosperous state. A well-run state where AAA bond-rated. But that attracts criminals. Those people are going to jail. we're doing everything we can, but to demonize an entire community on the actions of a few,
Starting point is 00:09:19 it's lazy. That is totally disconnected with demonizing an entire group of people who came here fleeing civil war and created a vibrant community that makes Minnesota and this country better. But that's Donald Trump. Deflect, demonize, come up with no solutions. He's not going to help fix anything on fraud. My God, there's a big difference between fraud and corruption, and corruption is something he knows about. The White House rapid response account on X pointing out these are all federal cases and the governor's not involved in the prosecutions. Ignored by NBC's host, the Times reporting that Minnesota's nonpartisan auditor found state officials were reluctant to take forceful action due to fears over litigation and negative media coverage involving racism allegations. In other words, they knew and did nothing because they didn't want to be called mean words.
Starting point is 00:10:11 The Times, speaking to a former investigator in the state's Attorney General's office, who said, quote, forcefully tackling this issue might cause political backlash among the Somali community, which is a core voting bloc for Democrats. One career prosecutor describing the situation to the Times is, quote, a huge part of the problem. Allegations of racism can be a reputation or career killer. Last night, President Trump aboard Air Force One expanding on just how much of a pause Americans should be expecting. We don't want those people. We have enough problems. We don't want those people.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Is that a year, two years? No time limit. But it could be a long time. We don't want those people. Do you understand that? What do you mean by those people? Can you clarify? The people from different countries that are not friendly to us and countries that are out of control themselves. Countries like Somalia that have virtually no government, no military, no police, all they do is go around killing each other. Then they come into our country and tell us how to run our country. We don't want them.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Coming up, shortly after a group of Democrat lawmakers warns military service members to ignore hypothetical illegal orders, and after two weeks of criticism for their failure to cite even one allegedly illegal order, their buddies in the media do their best to find one. And sorry, ladies, and others. Senator Cory Booker is officially off the market. The Black Friday, Buywomen. one get one free sale is here at All Family Pharmacy, and it's a big one. From November 22nd through December 2nd, when you buy Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, or mebendazol, you will receive
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Starting point is 00:12:35 Buy one, get one free deal now. Two weeks after, a group of six Democrat lawmakers stirred up controversy by urging U.S. service members to ignore hypothetical illegal orders from President Trump and on the heels of even left-wing media outlets embarrassing Democrats by asking them to name the illegal orders at issue only to be met with crickets in response. The Washington Post and CNN now reporting on aha, a potentially illegal order allegedly given by Secretary of War Pete Hegseth. Fortuitous timing.
Starting point is 00:13:10 According to the Post on September 2nd, a U.S. surveillance aircraft struck a suspected drug-running vessel off the coast of Trinidad, leaving two survivors clinging to the wreckage. The Post claiming on orders from Secretary Hegseth to leave no survivors, the Special Ops Commander overseeing the mission
Starting point is 00:13:26 ordered a second strike. The Post quoting a former military lawyer and U.S. congressman from Massachusetts Democrat Seth Moulton, both suggesting the second strike constituted an illegal order because the survivors were incapable of fighting against the U.S. and no longer posed a threat. Joint Special Operations Command or J-Soc, the group executing the mission, briefing the White House that the double tap was necessary to fully sink the vessel,
Starting point is 00:13:52 clearing a navigational hazard, according to the post, which reported the commander of the operation determined, quote, survivors were still legitimate targets because they could theoretically call other traffickers to retrieve them and their cargo. According to the post, Post's unnamed sources, the boat was struck a total of four times, twice to kill everyone, and two more times to sink it. Congressman Moulton telling the post, quote, killing survivors is blatantly illegal. Mark my words, he continued, it may take some time, but Americans will be prosecuted for this, either as a war crime or outright murder. Secretary Hegeseth defending the mission Friday on social media, quote, our current operations in the Caribbean are lawful
Starting point is 00:14:32 under both U.S. and international law, with all actions in compliance with the law of armed conflict, and approved by the best military and civilian lawyers up and down the chain of command. CNN reporting the DOJ produced a legal opinion over the summer, arguing the president is allowed to authorize strikes against certain cartels and criminal organizations in self-defense because of the imminent threat to Americans posed by said groups.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Both House and Senate Armed Services Committees led by Republicans, moving to open inquiries. U.S. Senator from Arizona, Democrat Mark Kelly, who participated in the video urging military members to ignore illegal orders, and also a member of the Armed Services Committee Sunday on Meet the Press expressing his concern. Would you refuse that order in real time?
Starting point is 00:15:19 Well, let me start by saying, I've sunk two boats, two ships. Never once did I question whether those orders were legal or illegal. People can tell the difference, should be able to tell the difference between something that is unlawful and something that is lawful. And if I was ever given an unlawful order, I would refuse.
Starting point is 00:15:39 My concern is with the service members that we're going to put these individuals in a really, really tough decision, in a tough place. And, you know, they may find out, you know, down the road that they did something that is illegal. It is not fair to them. Last night on Air Force One, President Trump pushed back on the reporting in the post. If there were a second strike that killed wounded people, wounded in the first strike, are you thinking that would be legal? Number one, I don't know that that happened.
Starting point is 00:16:07 And Pete said he did not want them. He didn't even know what people were talking about. So we'll look into it. But no, I wouldn't have wanted that, not a second strike. The first strike was very lethal. It was fine. And if there were two people around, but Pete said that didn't happen. Does that make you mean?
Starting point is 00:16:26 I have great confidence. He's got a second strike? I don't know. I'm going to find out about it, but Pete said he did not order the death of those two men. Amid all the uproar sparked by this story, senior writer at Real Clear Investigations Mark Hemingway urging caution, posting to X, quote, based on what we know so far,
Starting point is 00:16:45 a whole lot of people are outraged and energetically pretending to be experts on obscure aspects of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and International Law, when the known facts just aren't credible enough to speculate. U.S. Senator from New Jersey, Democrat Cory Booker, surprising the nation this weekend with news of his wedding. The New York Times exclusively reporting on the 56-year-olds, quote, intimate Saturday ceremony in D.C., tying the nut with 38-year-old Alexis Lewis, following a Monday courthouse ceremony in Newark where the couple's parents served as witnesses. They were reportedly engaged just three months ago. Lewis is a director of investments at a real estate investment firm
Starting point is 00:17:27 Los Angeles and former staffer for the Democratic mayor of L.A. Eric Garcetti. The pair met in May of 24, according to the Times, on a blind date, coordinated through a mutual friend. Senator Booker emailing the Times that, quote, the second date was even more magical, detailing an evening of tapas, followed by tickets to the Broadway show, Suf's, a musical based on the women's suffrage movement. Senator Booker popping the question in Hawaii after native Hawaiian musicians played Mariah Carey's dream lover, magical, Broadway, women's suffrage, and Mariah Carey. Okay. Lewis telling the performers, she had always wanted the song to be played at her wedding, Senator Booker reportedly replying, quote, well, honey, this is the song that's playing at your proposal.
Starting point is 00:18:17 That moment captured in images shared by Booker on social media on September 2nd, showing the extremely, extremely happy couple with eyes wide, mouths agape, as in like publisher's clearinghouse showed up at your house with an enormous check mouths agape in full theatrical excitement. HBO host Bill Maher describing the scene this way. We congratulate Senator Cory Booker on his recent engagement. He has to explain why his engagement photos look like an ad for prescription drugs. Because these three structures don't make me think, great, now we can run for president without the stigma of being a bachelor. They make me think, don't let moderate to severe ulcerite of colitis standing your
Starting point is 00:19:03 way. Ask your doctors about so laxia. Speaking of presidential runs, the times going out of its way to include this little detail, quote, the couple's wedding comes eight months after Mr. Booker delivered a 25-hour speech on the Senate floor, opposing the Trump administration's policies in March, setting a record. His stamina and tenacity drew renewed attention from Democrats, who have largely been sidelined in the Capitol since President Donald J. Trump's inauguration in January. The moment reignited speculation about a potential presidential run. Mr. Booker last sought the nomination in 2020. When Senator Booker dropped out of the 2020 race, he was polling at 2% nationally. 538 reporting at the time, quote, after the first debate in late June, he didn't surpass 4%.
Starting point is 00:19:51 in a single national survey, and he continued to lose steam, failing to qualify for the December and January debates. Preliminary polling ahead of 2028 showing the same story, the Real Clear Politics polling average showing Senator Booker at just 2.5%. But at least he's totally and authentically halffully married now. And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megan Kelly. Join me back here for the MK Show live on Sirius XMs, the Megan Kelly Channel, 11 at noon east. YouTube.com slash Megan Kelly and on all podcast platforms.

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