The Megyn Kelly Show - Vaccine Mandates, Supply Chain Crisis, and CRT in Middle School, with Eric Bolling and Ramona Bessinger | Ep. 184

Episode Date: October 19, 2021

Megyn Kelly is joined by Eric Bolling, host of "Eric Bolling The Balance" on Newsmax, and middle school teacher Ramona Bessinger, recently suspended for speaking out about CRT-inspired, race-based teachings at her school, to talk about vaccine mandates, those who are being fired for their vaccine choices, the supply chain crisis, the state of the economy, the state of schools in America and the obsession with race and gender today, and more.Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at: https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow

Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We have a great lineup for you today. Later, we're going to be joined by a middle school teacher who says she is being punished, harassed, and now threatened for speaking out against critical race theory. She says she's seeing an increased hatred towards America in her school by design, and she's refusing to remain quiet about all of it. And it appears that her school is retaliating against her for being so outspoken. She will join us in a fascinating interview. And speaking of refusing to back down in the face of pressure, the stand against vaccine mandates is spreading. Americans in all different types of jobs are saying enough is enough. And it's time now for them to either get the vax underneath these mandates or be fired. And more and more folks are choosing to walk or to force their employers to make them walk. Joining me now to discuss it and all the day's headlines is my pal Eric Bolling, host of The Balance on Newsmax.

Eric, great to have you here. So there's so much to go over. I want to get to definitely in a little bit the supply chain problems and the inflation and the money, because you always explain that to me in ways that even I can understand. But let's just start with the crazy vaccine mandates, because it's happening, right? They're kicking in. And now we're seeing people meant it when they said they weren't going to be bullied by their employers into getting these. Let me just start with Chicago cops. The vaccine deadline was Friday for them to disclose their vac status or be vaccinated. 30,000 city employees. There are 10,000 cops.

And according to the latest numbers, less than 65 percent of the cops have met the reporting requirement. Some 35 percent of the cops have let the deadline pass without complying. And now there's a real question about whether the cops are not going to be on the job in Chicago, one of the deadliest cities in America. My hometown, Megan, it's sad. I watch what's going on week after week prior to this announcement by Mayor Lori Liefeld, who, by the way, has violated her own mask mandate countless times, including this past weekend. Yep, Chicago cops are told that they're likely going to go on unpaid leave, which is basically taking their livelihood away from

if they're not vaccinated and they can't prove it. And they, like you said, somewhere around a third to a half of them said, we're not going to do it. John Cantanzaro is the head of the police union in Chicago saying, we're not going to be told what to do, what to put in our... These are the same people, Megan, who were heroes a year ago. Remember, they were the frontline workers, the first responders. They're getting fired. Nurses are being pulled off the floor if they don't have a vaccine passport. They fired 120 nurses in a hospital group right here in New York City.

It's incredible. These people have put their lives on the line for America to save our lives, get us back on our feet. And now the Biden administration is pulling their reasons to live, to make a livelihood. It's insane. Across the board, we just heard a cop in Washington state resign on his microphone on his he's calling into it for his very last time. I'm resigning because Governor Inley from Washington governors mandating cops be vaccinated. Why do we have that? Let's hear that. That's Washington state trooper. His name is Robert LeMay. He went public with his opposition to

the vaccine mandate in August. He's skeptical about the safety of the vaccine and long-term effects and so on. And here he was, peacing out after 22 years as a state trooper. This is my final sign off. After 22 years of serving the citizens of the state of Washington, I'm being asked to leave because I am dirty. I'd like to thank the citizens of Yakima County as well as my fellow officers within the Valley. Without you guys, I wouldn't have been very successful and you've kept me safe

and got me home to my family every night. Thank you for that. Wish I could say more, but this is it. So so state 1034 this is the last time you'll hear me in a state patrol car and jay ansley can kiss my ass jay ansley governor there and remember he went and he ran for president at one point lemay is on my show today and and he you know not only was he a state trooper for, I believe, 17 or 22 years, he delivered a child on his first shift ever. He said he embraced young officers, young troopers who wanted to come in. He taught them the ropes, kept them safe, kept the people of Washington state safe.

And now after all this, as he points out, Governor Inslee thinks he's dirty. Trooper LeMay is dirty because he won't take a vaccine, take a vaccine that he and his wife both choose not to take. They just don't want to do it. We should make people do things they don't want to do. I would recommend it. I've been vaccinated. I clearly talk about it. But I have a real problem with being mandated.

I did it because I'm in this city, this godforsaken hellhole, New York City. Sorry, New Yorkers. I'm in the city and I can't even go to a restaurant unless I show a vaccine passport, a vaccine passport in my pocket. You go anywhere and they want to see it. They want to make sure you're vaccinated. It's really incredibly against our Fourth Amendment rights. It's just incredible what they're doing.

Did you laminate your little card? I'm impressed. So CBS, when you get the second person, second shot, you can buy this little. OK, so I will show you mine. I keep all my cards in the back of my my phone and mine is just like crumbled up in a little. Yeah, that's me. That's and I only even have that because Abby made me because I traveled to Chicago this past week. And she's like, take it with you. You'll never eat out.

But actually, they were a lot more lax in Chicago than they were in New York, where they really do make you show that vaccine card. Megan, they're like, make sure you're not faking it. But yes, it's just incredible. I mean, yeah, you come across a southern border and you're not required to show a vaccine card, nor are you required to get vaccinated that's a okay that's fine and they'll fly people in the middle of night into our u.s cities quietly under the guise of darkness um and drop illegal immigrants off that's happening right now that's happening between between you are in new york city and where i am right now in connecticut at westchester airport uh which is this small sort of under the radar um. And the reports are by the New York Post that they've flown some 2000 illegal immigrants up there in the in the dark of night between midnight and 6am. I'm sure somebody just tipped off the post because they saw these,

you know, undocumented immigrants coming in. And they say, Oh, no, it's all families. It's all children. But those on the ground are saying no, it's all families, it's all children. But those on the ground are saying, no, there were plenty of young men in their 20s. Technically, somebody's child. Yes, that doesn't make one a child. And the Biden administration is seems to be awfully sneaky about it. Ron DeSantis in Florida said, if this is all on the up and up, why so sneaky? And none of those people has had a vaccine. They've been open about the fact that they're not vaccinating these migrants. They're not requiring that of the Afghanistan migrants. They're only requiring that of folks like that trooper and these cops and people who have been

helping the country survive this pandemic for the past 18 months. You know, Trooper LeMay, and again, he's going to be on. We have a show at four o'clock. I'm not pitching him. No, but you should watch it. It's a good show. It's going to be on. We have a show at 4 o'clock. I'm not pitching him. He's staying. No, but you should watch it. It's a good show. It's Newsmax, 4 p.m., Eric Bolling. Thank you, Meg. But he says he and his wife have chosen not to. They have three young kids.

They have three young babies now. Their dad's not making a living. His wife works part-time. They don't know what to do, but they did know that they didn't want to be told to take a vaccine that they didn't agree with. They didn't know whether it was vetted enough. Who knows? I'm not making a commentary on whether or not a vaccine works or not. I'm saying the mandate. So I'm pro-vaccine, anti-mandate. And this guy, this trooper is putting his career on line, his family's livelihood on the line, as is Megan, the ESPN reporter who said, you know what? I don't want to take the vaccine because

I'm trying to get pregnant. My doctor said, don't. And Disney who owns ESPN says, okay, for a while you can object medical reasons, but then they said, either you get vaccinated or you're going to have to resign or they'll fire you. Yeah, or you're out. So now you know me, I don't follow sports that closely, but I do know my fellow reporters. And she's been at ESPN. Her name's Alison Williams for about a decade now, faithful servant on the sidelines, reporting the games and so on. And now she and her husband are trying to get pregnant with their second baby. And there are a lot of women who are pregnant or trying to get pregnant who have some vaccine hesitancy for obvious reasons. They're amongst the lowest when it comes to the vaccinated in our country. According to stats,

my team gave me less than 26 percent of pregnant Americans have received at least one dose of the vaccine because they're worried about their babies. They have a higher calling to protect the unborn and figure out what's safe and what's not safe. There haven't been that much that many tests on them. But here is Alison Williams of ESPN saying this is a little long, but she's basically saying, I'm done. I'm not doing it. My ethics require me to walk from this job I love. Watch. I have been denied my request for accommodation by ESPN and the Walt Disney Company and effective next week, I will be separated from the company. I am also so morally and ethically not aligned with this. And I've had to really dig deep and analyze my values and my morals.

And ultimately, I need to put them first. And the irony in all this is that a lot of those same values and principles I hold so dear are what made me a really good employee. I don't know what it's like to run a multi-billion dollar company and to have shareholders and board members and financial quotas to answer to, and not to mention societal and I'm sure political pressures. So I respect that their values have changed. I had hoped they would respect that mine did not. And ultimately, I cannot put a paycheck over principal. And I will not sacrifice something that I believe and hold so strongly to maintain a career.

And so many of the people who are in the same situation as me are serving society and benefiting this country in ways I could never do. They are nurses, they are teachers, they are doctors, they are police officers and first responders. They are most importantly our military. And they too are pilots. They too are choosing to put their beliefs first. And I just want you all to know I stand with you. But I also want people to know who support these mandates that I fight for you. Because if this is the direction we take our country, there will come a time

when the government or corporations mandate you to get something that does not align with your values. Power given is seldom returned. And when that day comes, I want you to at least know that we fought and we tried. Wow. I've got chills listening to her. I want you to at least know that we fought and we tried. Wow. I've got chills listening to her. I want to tell the audience, Allison's doing her first broadcast interview with us on Thursday. So very happy she's coming on. We're going to talk about it.

But man, she brings it home at the end there, right? It's not just about the COVID vaccine mandate. It's unbelievable. It's so heart-wrenching the way she describes it. And she's right. It's about not, who knows what the next thing is. It's a trial balloon, a weather balloon for something else to see how this flies. They all want control. I'm struck by the way she was emotional because she said, I don't want this for the next generation. We had on a pilot. Remember when the pilot spoke out about pilots being mandated to get vaccinated or they're going to be fired? Well, the pilot came out.

He went viral with his TikTok pushback. And he came on and he said, you know, I can't really come on because my wife. And I said, well, bring her on, too. She said, well, she's watching the baby. I said, well, bring the baby on. So I had the pilot, his wife. Both are pilots. They're both pilots. And they're both refusing to the baby on. So I had the pilot, his wife, both are pilots. They're both pilots and they're both refusing to take the shot.

And they had the little baby there, the little girl there. She's about three years old, just gorgeous little family there. And I said, well, you know, here, let me play devil's advocate for a second. I agree with you, but let me just say what I'm hearing. Why don't you just take the vaccine for your family? Look at your beautiful little girl. And he said, I can't. Looked at his wife and she's nodding her way. She said, I can't raise her knowing that I came on something that I was so principled about not wanting to take the vaccine.

And that's exactly the heart of this. Whether you agree or disagree or you trust the vaccine or you don't trust the vaccine or you worry that the vaccine will cause some sort of potential birth defects if you do get pregnant or you don't. The point is, if you have a belief in something and you're willing to fight for the belief, the minute you turn that over to the government saying, you know what, I'm not willing to fight for the same, they've won. And who knows where they'll take it? What's the next level? What's the next thing they'll tell us we have to do or we have to take or we can't get into this restaurant or we can't keep our jobs. It's incredible the amount of control government wants. And this is a Democrat thing.

They want to control this aspect of our lives. And it becomes bigger and bigger and bigger. First it was, you know, whether you can go watch a game. Then it was, well, can you go out to dinner now? We're going to let you know if we're going to let you work or not if you don't take what we say you need to take. It's down to Fauci. Like, I'll decide whether you have Christmas. I'll decide whether you have Thanksgiving.

No, you won't. You won't decide. We'll decide for ourselves. We don't need you to tell us whether we should gather with our family over Christmas. I'm so sick of this bullshit, honestly, like these federal bureaucrats thinking that they can control our every move. They've already got their hand over my kids mouths all day long at school with these unnecessary masks, which the CDC's own study shows do nothing to stop the spread of covid in children in the school setting a reality they won't they won't acknowledge and the thing about allison as you listen to her is she's talking about a hesitancy from somebody who's trying to conceive a baby the vaccine's only been around for about a year we don't there haven't been that many generations born by women who have been vaccinated i understand there's just not enough data to have total

confidence for some expectant moms. They tell you, don't drink a glass of wine if you're pregnant, don't have a cigarette after years and years and decades of studies, but yet they'll tell you this vaccine is safe because wink, wink, we know. You bring a Fauci. Who in the world gave Fauci the power to tell anyone whether they can go to 4th of July, this past 4th of July, Thanksgiving, trick-or-treating for Halloween and Christmas. Are you kidding me? The guy hasn't been right about anything. First, there was no masks.

Then there was one mask. Then there was two masks. The Democrats want control of our lives and they need a useful idiot. You know who the useful idiot is? Anthony Fauci is their useful idiot because he confirms everything they need a useful idiot. You know who the useful idiot is? Anthony Fauci is their useful idiot because he confirms everything they want him to say. He says it and he pushes it and he tells us how deadly life is going to be. Can you imagine if you sit in a college stadium and watch a football game? Everyone's going to die by Christmas time. COVID, guess what?

COVID cases are going down. We have 100,000 people packed into stadiums. And he was wrong again. Yet, the media holds him up on a pedestal because the media is complicit. They have a useful idiot in Fauci, and the government wants what they want. They want everyone. They want control over what people do. Ultimately, I'll give you one derivative of this. The reason why Democrats want control, the reason why Biden and the administration and likely countless others want control is because it becomes a full circle. Follow the money. This is what I do in my life. We follow the money. Democrats push a vaccine. Vaccines cost a ton of money. We raise money. We print money. We borrow money to create this big bowl of money for fighting COVID,

whether it's vaccines or PPE, whatever. So the ton of money that we said, okay, here's a bunch of money, fight it. So the Democrats get to throw money at Big Pharma. Big Pharma gets to sell a lot of vaccines and a lot of equipment to fight COVID. What do they do in their turn? Here's the payoff. Here's the kicker. The biggest donor class to Joe Biden's run for president and to the Democrats. The number one. There's no one that spends more money lobbying than big pharma. They throw money into election coffers and they lobby.

They spend more money making sure that they're going to keep this cycle going. And that's how it works. It's all about the money for the Democrats, for the reelections. It's all about the money for big pharma because they sell a ton of stuff. Look at the best performing companies on Wall Street in the last 18 months. Moderna, Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson, and the others who provide all the stuff that Democrats tell us we need to have. In the meantime, the Biden administration continues to flout its own mandates on all of us, right? They were, the president and Mrs. Biden were in a restaurant in D.C. just last weekend where you do have to have a mask on inside at the restaurant. This stupid ass rule where you have to have it on

your face while you walk in, you walk to your table, you can take it off at your table. The virus magically knows to stay just at your table and to not jump to the people passing through, leaving the restaurant or going to the bathroom. It's ridiculous. But, hey, it's his team that's forcing these things on us. And if I've got to do it, so does he. But as it turns out, no, he didn't do it. And neither did Mrs. Biden. They were walking out of the restaurant in the plain view of everybody and they weren't wearing their masks. So Peter Doocy over at Fox asks Jen Psaki about him flouting the rules that the rest of us for some stupid reason have to follow. We'd rather be like him. Yes, we're with him. Let's take it off. This is pointless. But no, we have to do it.

And listen to what Jen Psaki says. President Biden, the first lady, we're not wearing masks while walking around a D.C. restaurant on Saturday. Why? Well, I think what we are referring to is a photo of them walking out of a restaurant after they they had eaten masks in hand where they had not yet put them back on yet. So I would say, of course, there are moments when we all don't put masks back on as quickly as we should. But I don't think we should lose a force through the trees here and that our objective here is to get more people vaccinated, make sure that schools and companies around the country

can put in place requirements to save more lives and keep people safer and not overly focus on moments in time. Don't overly focus on moments in time. Don't overly focus on moments in time. And if she goes on to say moments in time that don't reflect overarching policy, that moment in time didn't reflect your overarching party or policy or didn't comply with it, because I think it reflected your policy just just perfectly. But you it didn't comply with it. And the rest of us have to. But the truth is, I had Steven Crowder on yesterday, Eric, he was saying, think moments like this, you know what they show us, they don't show hypocrisy, they show the truth, which is even he knows it's bull. Even he knows this is all theater.

They're all about it. The Democrats are all about bull or I have a hypocrisy bell on the show that we constantly want when something like this. Lori Lightfoot over the weekend was maskless in a venue when she tells us you need a mask. Every weekend. She violates every weekend. Sorry, go ahead. Every week. Gavin Newsom, one of the biggest violators.

He has the French laundry issue. We talked all about that last year. He's dining at $400 plate restaurants when he's shutting down his own economy. His daughter. His daughter is not vaccinated as he mandates every child of that age to be vaccinated in the state of California. Hypocrisy, bells going off left and right. But I believe the biggest one is safe for Congress because Congress is mandating all these liberal Democrats. All these Democrats are mandating we have to vaccine masks and all these things. You know who's exempt? Who's exempt from the vaccine? Staffers of Congress members,

staffers of Congress are exempt from having to do the things that their lawmaker bosses are mandating we do or we lose our jobs. It doesn't get any more. I did not know that. Normally, if you're a staffer, they make you do all the stuff. You're the one with the mask while the others don't. It's happening more and more. The Washington State football coach, Nick Rolovich, was just fired. The guy was making three point two million dollars a year. They fired him going to require everybody here to get vaccinated, I'm quitting. He's got 300 stations. We'll see. I mean, there's a similar policy at Fox News,. We saw the memo of, I believe it's Kevin Lord, HR, who said that you've got to be vaccinated or you can't come in the building or you're going to be tested. And that right there is, I've rung the hypocrisy bell at Fox News for that right there, because of all the people, of all the groups pushing back against this type of coercive behavior by businesses and by governments.

Fox News, I think, is one of the loudest voices, if not the loudest. And then they do have, and think about this, okay, you can't get in the building. You can't get in the building that you and I used to work in. As you know, there are cameramen, there are producers, there are lighting people who have to be in that building or they can't do their job. So stop with the, oh yeah, look at this mandate suck for everyone else, but not for us. Rules for me, but not for me. I just feel like it's, you know, so it's not like this football coach is exactly working class,

but still reportedly he was tested every day. You're getting tested every day. You're probably not a major threat and I'm sure you can keep six feet of distance out there during training. But no, it's about control. So this guy gets fired. And to his credit, I mean, stands on principle just like Allison and just like the state trooper who's coming on your show, Robert LeMay. Look, it's not that I'm anti-vax. It's that I appreciate people standing by their ethics and taking taking the cost on personally if that if that's what it requires i've been there myself in the past not on vaccines it's not easy to do go ahead you can get those fox down reporters or talent would um quit their jobs if they fox did go one step further and say you're either mandated to get the vaccine

or you can't work here at all anymore. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I will say I don't think they should be put in that position. You know, I just don't think and you should be able to speak out against the mandates without saying, OK, I've got to quit my job if they impose the mandates. I don't really understand what's going on with bongino there um because he's only making the threat in the one lane you know at cumulus but i don't think he's making the threat uh with respect to his position at fox news um but i do think you should be free if you have a microphone like i do or like you do um to speak out against mandates uh without sacrificing your job the problem is you don't have that freedom if it's about getting the actual shot.

You do have to choose between your livelihood and that needle going in your arm. And you know as well as I do, Eric, there are people out there who won't even take two Tylenol when they have a headache because they're so attentive to what they put in their bodies.

I'm not necessarily that person, but I know lots of them. Yeah. And I'm not sure you said this or I just read necessarily that person, but I know lots of them. Yeah. And I'm not sure you said this, or I just read this this morning, that pregnant women, and I said it, yeah, pregnant women, not pregnant people, pregnant women are vaccinated something like 25%. Is that what you said? Yes. Or did I read that somewhere else? Because of that. Less than 26% of pregnant Americans have received at least one dose.

Yeah. Over the years, we've known that putting certain things in your body when you're pregnant ends up affecting the pregnancy, the birth. And we don't want to do that. And they write, they have a right to say no. What if government says it's a vaccine mandates today and tomorrow it's, I don't know, cold, you're going to, we're going to mandate the flu vaccine and then shingles vaccine. And by the way, we're going to have this new thing that we're going to then mandate against another questionable affliction or disease. Once they gain control over one of them, there's likely that you open up a Pandora's box, so to speak, of what they'll try to do with us.

Well, we're there. We're there. I mean, it's happening. People are losing their jobs left and right now that these things are kicking in. Listen, there's much more to discuss. Eric Bowling knows a lot, a lot about finance and the economy and what's going on with the supply chain crisis, how it's going to affect your Christmas, how it's going to affect your paycheck, and the amount that you are charged at the gas pump and the grocery store. That's next. So, Eric, I confess for the first time ever, I actually am considering buying my Christmas gifts early. Abby's like, no, bull.

You don't believe, I don't don't she doesn't believe me but i am i'm starting to get a little nervous given all these supply chain issues um which i want to get into but so i want to talk about whether we should do that and also i need to buy a car i'm worried about that and i mentioned this last week i'm trying to build a studio and i got an estimate on on how much it would cost exactly 12 months ago we we checked back in with the contractor, it's doubled. It's doubled the estimate in 12 months. So I can feel all this inflation and so on in a personal way. I'm sure my listeners can too. Your thoughts on whether we've peaked in terms of the badness or whether this is going to go on and on? My problem is I think we've plateaued instead of peaked. So all the badness feels like prices have gone up and we know they have, but will they go back down? Everyone's

predicting they go back down, including probably the smartest man on Wall Street, Jamie Dimon, but I don't believe, I think he's wrong. I'm not smarter than Jamie Dimon, but I feel he's wrong this time. We've floated this inflationary boat and it's lasted so long. It feels like we've been probably even out for a while and then make another move up when things get even tighter. The reason behind this is mostly the reason why you're having a hard time buying a car with things you want on it because you can buy a car, maybe not get all the bells and whistles you want because of chip shortage. There's literally a chip shortage in America.

It's also the reason why you're probably, not only did your prices double for your studio, it probably pushed you back on delivery times for cameras and equipment as well, where you could have bought the stuff a year ago at a lower price and probably had it delivered within a couple of weeks. Now they're talking months before delivery of things like cameras. They're probably just going to try and do the same thing in a boat and studio right right now we went from about a five week wait for the equipment to five month wait for the equipment china has a complete stranglehold on chips around around the world they're hoarding them they're using them for themselves we all need them you can go into a car this happened as well when brought adrian a car went into a car

dealership um and they said well, you can have this car, but I just want to let you know this function doesn't work on the car. It was one of the functions like the lighting on the interior. You can't change the lighting on the interior colors, which you normally could. Well, we don't have the chips for that. We're taking that price off the car. It's still there. If we ever get chips, we'll be able to put that back in. We have a chip shortage. As far as the rest of supply chain problems, I don't see how it's going to get any better. We have energy prices that are spiking. A lot of what's going on right now is tied to energy prices. $80 barrels of crude. Do you remember two years ago, Megan, where price of crude went negative? Trump was pumping out so

much oil. We were fracking. We didn't need some of the domestic oil production we had. We were actually surplusing, and we were shipping some of it overseas. Now we are at dire needs for oil. Prices are rising because the Biden administration canceled a lot of the fracking projects. They canceled a lot of drilling projects. They canceled the XL pipeline, Keystone XL pipeline. So we're becoming energy dependent again on the Middle East. So prices of oil go up. You move everything in this country via some sort of fossil fuel. So

whether it's a truck with diesel fuel, a train with coal, it's all tied to prices of fuel. So prices of stock are going up. It doesn't feel like they're ever going to go down, especially not with a Democrat president, Democrat administration that is completely anti-fossil fuel. You have the AOC wing of the party telling Biden, who's somehow now becoming a spokesperson for their Green New Deal agenda, get rid of fossil fuels. We can't. We can't. He said that. Remember that debate with Trump? He said, I want to kill the coal industry. Go ahead. I'm sorry. No, no. I was just saying he made no mystery of his desire to kill fossil fuels, the coal industry. He said that at a presidential debate. That's what he thinks is best for the environment.

But you look at the numbers now because it's on top of the grocery bill that, I mean, I don't know about you, but it's like I got the dollar signs in my eyeballs when I go to the grocery store now. And look, I can afford it. I think about the people who don't have money. Right. It's like BS. I remember it wasn't so long ago that I was living paycheck to paycheck. And that hurts the groceries in particular. You got to get them. You got to feed your family. So you got the the cost of groceries, according to Department of Labor, has gone up five.4% year over year. It feels like more than that. Oil gas is up about $1.08, $1.08 from a year ago. That's a lot per gallon, per gallon. 42% per gasoline in the 30s for certain needs. So what happens here is they remove food and energy from those periods of price indexes,

but that's all we use every day. It's food and energy. We drive to work. We drive to school. We come home. We eat food. They remove that, and it looks like 5%. But when you add in the things that we use every day, numbers are spiking. Anything that's going up here that we produce in America is going up because of energy prices. But the other stuff that's going up, the reason why we have supply chain disruption, the reason why the LA Port is backed up with 60,000 or 600,000, I'm sorry, containers that are waiting to hit port is because one simple answer, the giveaways that the Biden administration has given to people

to not work. So they can't get workers and the whole supply chain can't get workers. You can't get port workers because they don't work. They'd rather stay home. You can't get restaurant workers. You can't get truckers to truck the goods when it gets to the port in LA to bring it to the different cities around the country. So the supply chain disruptions are happening because of workers. Workers are choosing to stay home instead of going to work and earn their paycheck. They can stay home and get their paycheck. 10 million job openings. We can't even get the secretary of transportation to work. They left the job. Didn't tell anybody. Hello? Hello? Secretary Buttigieg. So yes, to your point, they say not enough truck drivers, 22,000 fewer people working in the trucking industry versus pre-pandemic. And even then, the American Trucking Association had estimated in 2019 that it was going to be short some 60,000 drivers. Welcome to the pandemic. Now they say they have one qualified driver for every nine job listings in the trucking industry. But can I just ask you about those ports? Because I don't think a lot of us pay that

much attention to the ports, you know, the shipping we get from China, all those, you know, cargo boxes that are sitting out there on the ships waiting to come in. I think about it just on a personal level. We bought a new house and we moved to Connecticut and we're waiting on a couch. And the couch was supposed to be here in August. And it was supposed to be here in September. And it was supposed to be here in October. Now they're saying maybe November. And, you know, I'm certain my couch is sitting in one of those boxes out there because they can't find a place to deliver them.

And they can't get the warehouse space and they can't get the workers and they can't get the truckers and so on. But here's what the Biden administration said. We brokered a deal. This is from National Review. We brokered a deal under which the twin California ports now operate, now operate around the clock. OK, so they're like, we're on it. The 24-7 operation began weeks ago, according to Jen Psaki. Well, it's not true. Port authorities told the Long Beach Post there is no terminal at either facility currently operating 24-7. Port authority has launched a pilot program under which one terminal at Long Beach only, there are seven, by the way, will operate 24 hours a day, Monday through Thursday. So it's more like 24,

four, not 24, seven, and it only one of the terminals, not all seven, and it only one of the ports, not both of them. And the rest of the week that they revert to their usual restricted hours. So the we've been misled by our administration on what's being done. But those ports, it seems like the problem is multifold in terms of getting the ships in, the cargo in, the cargo shipped, and then delivered. So they lied. Shocker. Shocker there. Wow. No surprise there.

So you ever know, you see the pictures of the ports and all the container ships that they're holding containers and they're called container ships because they're holding containers. Those are standardized containers because once they hit port, they're offloaded off the ships and then they're unloaded either. Well, they could be warehouse, but if they're important to commerce, they're loaded onto either train rails or trucks and they're the same equipment. It's the same box. It's filled with stuff. They put it right on the back of a flatbed of a truck and it's in wheel and it goes,

or they put it in a long string of a train and it goes. That's great if they can get the ports. They can get this stuff off the water where it's rotting and dying. Hopefully your couch isn't getting gross because it's out in the water. It's fine if they can get it to port, but then they're just going to stick in the warehouse because they don't have enough truckers. They don't have enough rail. They don't have enough workers to load the stuff onto the trucks and the rails.

We get it to people. And then once it gets there, they don't have enough people in grocery stores to unpack the stuff. I mean, it goes all the way down the line. I saw a stat yesterday, and this is another reason why prices are going up. A meat processing plant, and I believe it was Iowa, if I'm not mistaken, somewhere in the Midwest, meat processing plant, it's such a shortage for workers. They're offering $8,000 signing dogs. And some it's exorbitant number per hour, but $8,000 just to sign with them because

they need workers that badly. So if that's the case, even if they had the meat that was being slaughtered, they needed to be packaged and then they needed to be shipped again. So all down the line, this whole idea of paying people to stay home, it sounded good. And maybe the stock market goes up because people are speculating with their free money. But what's happening is the average worker, the $20, $15 an hour worker doesn't want to do it anymore. I can stay home and make $15 now. Why would I do it?

Or they'll figure out a way to go work five hours, get paid off the books, and still take their government check and cash it. That's why prices are going up. Okay, but wait. Let me challenge you on that because didn't the Biden unemployment payments stop in early September? And what I read in the papers, the papers tell me, Eric Bolling, that there's a lingering effect of COVID in terms of the reduced production of goods, that we weren't buying as many, I guess, during the lockdowns, and that personal spending on goods is up 20% this year, this August versus August of 2020. We've spent an additional 900 billion on goods this year. So we're getting our spend back on because we're out of quarantine. And we're like, yeah,

feels good. I want some couches and I want some merchandise. And that they just can't keep up. Like everything was shut down. And there's sort of a hangover from slowed manufacturing from when we weren't buying. And now there's this huge new demand. And the papers tell me it's not about oil and gas and it's not about the Joe Biden unemployment. No, it absolutely is about oil and gas. And it is about employment because we can't get people to process the good. The reason why, okay, I hate to get long of you here, but it's economics 101. There's supply and demand. And we have massive pent-up demand that's being unleashed right now because you're right. For 18 months, we were staying home. Now we want to go out and buy stuff to do retail therapy, so to speak. We want to buy stuff. We want to travel. We want to do

things. We want to go to restaurants. So demand is huge right now, given, and that's great for the economy. But the problem is supply is tight because we can't get workers to produce the stuff that we're trying to buy. We can't get workers to produce the jackets or the tires of the new car or the cars. We can't get people to produce the stuff. So supply stays stagnant or down or even because we can't produce enough to meet demand. And what does that do? A hundred percent of the time makes prices go up. That's where we are.

The problem is if prices stay high and we stop paying people to stay home and people want to go out and things start to open up, you're going to have a situation where prices are remaining high and people can't afford what they used to be able to afford. Right now, people are kind of being able to. I hate guys like me who used to come on and say, oh my gosh, the world's going to hell because prices are going up

and the economy looks so bad, yet everything got better year after year. These things are getting better year after year, but it's artificially financed by the government. We're spending trillions upon trillions of dollars. Sounds great, right? Okay, let's keep doing it. You know what?

There's something to be said about keep doing it. If no one says, hey, enough, you guys. We're not going to loan you any more money like China, then everything's fine. But here's the risk, and there is a risk. China plays the long game. We play the very, very short game with what's happening this week, this month, this year. China plays for 5, 10, 15 years down the road. China builds cities in anticipation of an industry being strong and the industry will

grow into the cities that China's already built. China plays the long game. They're holding a lot of our debt. If there were a case where they go, you know what? You guys are fiscally ridiculous. We would not. It wouldn't be smart for us, China, to continue to invest in your country by buying your debt. We're going to severe, severe shock. We can't sell this thing.

And if we don't have China to keep buying our stuff. Now, there's another theory that says, well, China better do that. Otherwise, we're their biggest customer and they would blow out our customer. It's almost like a wink and a nod between the two to see who's going to blink first. Problem is we don't have any of the cards. We don't have the cards. Well, it certainly doesn't suggest that we're going to get involved to save Taiwan or Hong Kong if China decides, right? It's like they decide to do the Pac-Man gobble of those cities, countries that then forget about it, like we're not going to intervene. Now, in the meantime, you've got real life prices going up, bacon up 19%, steak 22, lettuce 15, eggs 13%, washing machines up 19%, TVs 13%, kids shoes 12, hotels 20%, used cars 24%. And on and on it goes. And, you know, I had Glenn Beck on the program not long ago, giving me 101 too on economics.

And we were talking about how normally if you've got inflation that stays up, and the economists on average see inflation that's staying around 5.25% as of this coming December, which would mark the longest inflation has been above 5% since early 1991 and that terrible recession back then. So it's not good. These numbers are bad in terms of inflation that the Fed will step in, will hike interest rates. And that that's, I guess, not good for us. This is where I won't be able to reproduce what Glenn was saying. But he was saying that he sees the Fed stepping in potentially. Do you think that they will and raise interest rates? If it stayed elevated, but we saw the Fed chairman about six months ago saying that they would not raise interest rates before the end of this year and likely not before the end of 2022 unless something dramatic happened. And yes, inflation is strong and prices are going up. But again, the difference between inflation being this high now and the last time it was this high in the 90s was the economy was severely on the way down. We were having an inflationary period.

At the same time, we had unemployment spike, and it was a slowing economy at the same time. And so all things were bad, and that became a recession, almost a depression. Here, for whatever reason, we're still confident. Consumers are still spending. We're still spending every dime we have. Isn't it crazy, Eric? It's crazy that we're still thinking about putting another $3.5 trillion, $3.2 trillion. They say it's going to have to be lower because of Manchin and Sinema, but $3.2 trillion in this sort of social spending bill out there, in addition to these so-called infrastructure that's just more they're going to pump more money into the economy that will fire up that'll keep

the that's why i'm saying will it go back down like jamie diamond says i think no because i don't i don't if it's not a three trillion maybe it's a two trillion and then there's is there another two trillion dollar spending package behind that what that does, that funnels. It's a big firehose of money into the economy. That means people will buy, whether it's direct payments to people, which is likely they'll figure out a way to do that, or it's subsidies or paying family, child credits, money thrown into families. That's money that gets into people's pockets and goes right back out of the economy. The problem is we're running a deficit of the country. But again, it's protecting the downside of whatever this inflationary spike is. Home prices are up. You talk about one of the strongest markets of all these things, stock, other, used cars. Used car prices are through the roof. You're paying 20%, 30% more for a used car than ever. And that's a really good indicator of average Joe.

It's not the Uber wealthy. It's the average Joe. So he has more money. He's spending more. Things feel better until they don't. Yeah. All right. So wait.

So to wrap it up, what does that mean for my Christmas shopping and the Christmas shopping, everybody listening? I mean, those toys could be on those cargo ships. And I don't know. Like, what do we do? Two words. Gift certificates. That's your only answer. I hate when somebody gives me a gift certificate.

It feels like a homework assignment. You know, your little niece or nephew, you're like, really? Can I tell you? This is one of my pet peeves. I don't like a gift certificate because it feels like a to-do list somebody's given me. In the same way, this is my number one, maybe my top three, top three pet peeves. When somebody sends you an email or a text, hey, how's it going? What's new? Who is it?

Basically, what they're basically saying is, entertain me. Like, you know what you don't you give me nothing about your own life you'd like nothing you didn't earn it at all you just want me to dance for you i refuse yeah they're scrolling up their their text list and oh there's megan kelly hey what's new no stop i ignore ignore ignore i ignore most texts anyway never mind people who do that to me eric bowling i never ignore you and, ignore. I ignore most texts anyway. Never mind people who do that to me. Eric Bolling, I never ignore you. And you guys should not ignore him at 4 p.m. on Newsmax. The show is great.

It's doing great. And I look forward to hearing your interview with the cop, the state trooper, to whom this should not have happened. Thanks, Meg. Good talk. Love you, miss you. Likewise. All the best. Coming up, we're talking to a middle school teacher who is speaking out about critical race theory in her school and the school now punishing her. She just got pushed out. We booked her before. This happened to her overnight. So

we'll get her reaction on what they're now doing to her. It's time now for a feature on our show called Thanks But No Thanks, where we introduce you to some concept that is circulating on social media, in politics, or in the press that we would like to say, we're good, actually. Thanks, but no thanks. Today, we are taking a look into the world of climate change and the amplification of a certain book by The New Yorker that's raising some eyebrows. Andreas Mom's book is called How to Blow Up a Pipeline. Can you guess what it's about? You'll be shocked to learn it's about how and also why you should blow up a pipeline. The New Yorker was very intrigued by this eco-terrorism.

Should the climate movement embrace sabotage? Asked the headline from the podcast interview with The New Yorker editor David Remnick. Here's a little of that exchange. Listen. The book became a product of the moment of 2019, but it's also a call for escalation, a call for the movement to diversify its tactics and move away from an exclusive focus on polite, gentle, and perfectly peaceful civil disobedience. What actions are you recommending for the movement? Well, I am recommending that the movement continues with mass action and civil disobedience, but also opens up for property destruction. So I am in favor of destroying machines, property, not harming people.

That's a very, very important distinction there. And I think property can be destroyed in all manner of ways, or it can be neutralized in a very gentle fashion as when we deflated the SUVs, or in a more spectacular fashion as in potentially blowing up a pipeline that's under construction. That's something that people have done. So you are recommending blowing up a pipeline. Oh, would you look at that? The guy who wrote a book called How to Blow Up a Pipeline is in fact recommending blowing up a pipeline.

The New York editor seems surprised. How about instead of normalizing this climate terrorism, we talk about how absolutely insane this is. To the author who wants to blow an English middle school teacher in Providence, Rhode Island, and a mother speaking out against critical race theory and its tenants making its way into her school. Her story has garnered national attention and local criticism from her colleagues and now even some of her students. And as of last night, she is now suspended without pay, she believes, because she has spoken out about this. Ramona, thank you so much for being here. How are you doing today? Thank you so much. I'm doing very, very well. Thanks for having me.

Of course. So I have to tell you, I related so much when I read that you said in the 2020 slash 21 school year, so last year, Providence's K through 8 teachers were introduced to, quote, one of the most racially divisive, hateful, and in large part, historically inaccurate curriculums you had ever seen. I feel like I lived this firsthand the year prior in my own school in New York City. And I was one of the parents who got an up close look at it, thanks to the quarantine. But I had been seeing it there even prior to that. So how did you how did you start seeing it? Because I think critics get hung up on the term critical race theory, saying that's a law school thing that's taught. And I've conceded, just move off of that. That's

a red herring. It's basically race based obsession working its way into the school system, saying the white kids are oppressors and that the kids of color are the oppressed. They're the victims. White supremacists everywhere, patriot, whatever. You could go down the list, but it doesn't have to be classical critical race theory. What did you see? Well, I'm glad you first of all, I'm glad you bring up the critical race theory. I don't use that term either. I call it a racialized divisive, you know, curriculum. And this is exactly what I what I saw happen in my school and in seems, last September. And there were questions right away. This was, you know, we were mandated to teach social studies in relationship to and abandon our English curriculum, our vetted English curriculum materials. In fact, all of our books, starting with last year, were vetted by, it seems anyway, the New York Times.

But it wasn't really until January that I noticed something was really wrong. When box loads and box loads of very bizarre cartoon-like paperback books landed in my classroom. And I had to color, you know to color code them, level them. So I took a good hard look at those books and noticed right away that there was something very, very wrong with those books. The themes, the characters were all the same. White people, historic figures all look like buffoons or aggressors. The imagery was the same, the characters were the same, there was that victim and victimizer narrative very present between white and Black folks historically. And although this is an important part of our historical narrative, it is certainly not the only narrative.

And that's what these books were saying and telling us. And then, of course, the projects were all race based. And, you know, so this alarmed me quite a bit. And so you were a teacher, you've been a teacher for 22 years, past seven in Providence, but we were we were blending social studies and English together, combining it for what was called a humanities department rollout. And, you know, it sounds great. Humanities where you're teaching this, you're teaching literature, but providing the social context. Will we do that anyway as teachers? So I don't know why we even had to have a mandate to do this. But this is, so yeah, we were first told to blend our English literature with social studies to teach with the social studies department, which wasn't in itself shocking. It was the actual projects and books that were shocking for many of us. One of the things I read is you said the stories in book, you said you noticed the timeline on the Revolutionary War and the Civil War, that the stories and books seem to focus almost exclusively on slavery and racism, while also excluding many other aspects of our history. Now, can I tell you

this? My son, I've experienced this firsthand. My son, when he was in fourth grade, learned about the Revolutionary War and came home after a week of this saying that he could name 12 slaves who had helped the American side in the Revolutionary War. And we said, that's great. And he could say, like, somebody wound up in Harlem and blah, blah, blah. And he knew where everybody had gone on and what they'd done and how they'd. OK, great. And after a while, I said to him, did they mention anything about General George Washington? And he said, no. OK, so he's kind of important to to the revolutionary. It's been a while since I've been in school, but I think, I mean, that's the point you're making. So this isn't made up.

This happened in my school and it happened in yours. That is correct. You know, historical figures are mentioned, but very briefly, mostly the narrative and the characters are, you know, surrounds this, you know, students are surrounded with this narrative from a enslaved person's position. And it's hard to speak out against these sorts of things because you don't want to sound insensitive to that narrative that is very much a part of our U.S. history. And so many of us were sort of like, well, how do we how do we speak about this publicly without getting attacked? Well, you know, there's no way around it. I mean, not to speak out is to really, you know, to deny students and children that very crucial, you know, comprehensive education that really they're entitled to as American children. Did you experience the obsession with trans issues as well?

I mean, was it all critical race theory or did they do the gender stuff too? Yes, there's quite a bit of that. More on the social realm. So in my classroom, I had literature that I was contending with and sort of sifting through these hundreds of books. But there was a big push. And in fact, there are posters all around my school. And I teach middle school, so 12 and 13-year-olds. Posters supporting pride, supporting any movements, different types.

I don't even know the different pronouns. I can't even name them all. There's so many. And it's so changes on a daily basis that I couldn't even tell you. But this whole push to embrace any child who wants to be pansexual, transsexual, multisexual, who the heck knows, you know, it's like they're made up names and we can't even keep up with it. But this is what I noticed in my classroom. Children were identifying with different sexualities, I suppose. And for me, it's shocking. One is a mother and two is a teacher. I'm not interested in talking to children about their sexual preference, especially at the age of 12. So it escapes me as to why an adult would want to have these private, you know, sort of intimate conversations about sexual preference and why I was given a list of

approved pronouns so I could start this discussion with students. So I wasn't reading any literature per se, but the whole movement was being pushed in a very strange way. In fact, this year, we were told and mandated, and by the way, reprimanded if we didn't do this, to hand out pride tickets. Nothing wrong with being gay or choosing to be trans. But that is a private decision between a young person and their parents. It is not a decision for teachers, veteran teachers or new teachers or guidance counselors or whomever might be in the building circulating, you know, to have with minor children. This is a dangerous, dangerous, slippery slope, because now you have adults having conversations about

sexual preference with a minor child. That's one, disgusting to me as a teacher. And two, how dare, you know, how dare a school board assume that they have the right to have these sorts of conversations with children? You know, they know that developmentally, middle school children want to fit in more so than probably elementary or secondary. And so they're preying on that psychological phase that kids go through. They want to fit in. And if they feel it's going to please an adult, they may even pick a pronoun so that that adult applauds them and gives them a pin. They are ideological predators. No, are you kidding me? I loved every word because I've lived it and it's so cathartic to hear somebody else give voice to it, too. You know, you're not alone. You sometimes feel like you're nuts. But I'll tell you a story. I've never revealed this before, Ramona. I've never talked about this. But at our school, which, again, was one of the top all boys schools in one of the top schools in the country. And we chose it because it was traditionally it was more traditional it wasn't this far left place it is now um on our third grade boys

okay so they unleashed a three-week experimental transgender education program on our boys and but that i've revealed but what i didn't reveal yet is this the way we found out about it was we went to parent teacher night and we're sitting there and one of our fellow parents, a man, raised his hand and said, why did my son come home? These are third graders, eight, nine year olds. Why did my son come home and ask if it's true that he can take a pill to prevent puberty and then when he turns 18, can have his penis

chopped off if he wants to become a woman. We were all like, what? Say what? And we know this guy. We know his son and the teacher. It was the science teacher who was standing up there. She was nine months pregnant at the time. So we were gentle with her. But trust me, we were angry. And the teacher acknowledged it. She didn't deny it. She said, because we take the conversation where the boys want to take it. And of course, we were like, that's bull. No eight year old was asking that question. And even if they were, are you telling me that if my son comes in here and says, hey, my mom's pregnant with another baby, I don't know that my parents want another baby. What are their options? Are you going to get into that? Or what if a teen in today's society says, I'm really depressed and I'm wondering what the many ways are one can commit suicide. There are things that are inappropriate to discuss with children, certainly third graders, as it was in our case, and teenagers down the line for all sorts of reasons. And the teachers who are bent on this ideological just torment refuse to acknowledge

any of those limits. That is the problem, because maybe certain teachers might truly believe that they are helping, but it is not our position to subjectively and arbitrarily decide to help or counsel children who may express that they want to wear a dress or that they are curious about. I'll burst out laughing if I say it, but, you know, your son's comment about chopping his penis off. Not my son, but another son. And I'm sure, by the way, I'm sure that the teacher in explaining this did not go into the harmful effects of puberty blockers and the people who detransition and the psychological torment of the whole thing, right? It's like sold like, hey, it's an option on a menu that's available to you. It's wrong. It is very wrong because kids glom on to various identities, especially at that

middle school level there. They want to fit in. So they're going to try different hats on at that age. Literally, they may try purple hair and different funny things. And they may at that point express to an adult, oh, yeah, I want to be pansexual or I want to be a girl or a boy or I like to dress up in various clothes. Oh, says that adult, come with me. conversation with a minor about taking pills and and and asking personal questions and maybe referencing one of those panorama you know surveys that children are made to take or um you know some one of the other different surveys that they're made to take where they're asked similar questions about their home life about their sexual preference about whether they're supported sexually this is i've never seen anything like this as a mother or an educator and it's disgusting. Yeah, really. And there's one

thing I want to share. Yeah, go ahead. Recently in one of my classes and several of my classes, actually, there are children who are young girls talking with very deep voices. So I don't know if they've been given medication already to transition, or if they're just sort of trying on this other identity. And it's kind of, it's just disturbing. It's not appropriate for school. And it lends itself to potential abuse or worse, you know, predatorial, you know, predator behavior in the schools. We send our kids to be safe and to be educated. This could be exploited by a teacher who's not well-meaning, who's got designs on a child.

Unfortunately, we've seen scandals like this where there are schools that have teachers who are, there's a reason they went to work with children all day. This is not the vast majority of teachers, but it happens. There was a huge scandal in New York at Horace Mann decades ago, back in the 70s, late 70s, I think it was. But the point is, any opportunity to open up a discussion about sexuality and gender and genitals, that should be discouraged. I don't want anybody talking to my kid about that. So you, you as a teacher and as a mother, see all of this happening. And, and by the way,

before we get to what you did about it, they're making you go through all of the, the training and you know, you're, you're a white supremacist or what, what did they, what sort of the dividing of the teachers based on race? What did you experience in that lane? With a professional development, honestly, it makes you sick when you look at all the different offerings for professional development. Last year, one of the things that was pushed to us as educators was to participate in this white affinity group and black affinity group. So, of course, I thought, well, this is an opportunity to see, you know, be happy, open minded, you want to be open minded. And then I looked at the reading materials. And I could see that we were being we're instructed to participate in this white

affinity group to read materials around white supremacy in the classroom. And I thought, oh, no, no, no, no, I'm not going to participate in something that is labeling me what I am absolutely 100% not. And so I didn't participate in that I opted out. But this year, at the beginning of the year, the first week of school, we were, we had our entire professional development around this uh this idea or bias training they call it and we were made to do privilege walks and we had to talk about our white privilege and all these ridiculous notions that they've just pulled out of the clouds from somewhere and somebody what's a a teacher's manual. It's really horrible. What is a privilege walk? Oh, well, I didn't participate. I opted out. I was the only teacher.

Really, I think that the staff, the faculty was shocked. We were taken outside. This is quite interesting, actually. And the entire faculty at my school was made to line up in what I feel what you know was a military style you know lineup the principal stood in front of us but two principals stood in front of the lineup and fired questions out at us yelled them out because we were outside. So there was this like, take two steps forward if you have a parent that graduated from college. Take two steps back if you, you know, were ever discriminated against in a store or whatever. Like ridiculous, stupid questions that led, you know, separated the faculty by, I don't know, race potentially, or separated the faculty by

economic class, education, et cetera. It was really offensive. It was stupid. And and and just, you know, sending a very, very inappropriate, dangerous message that divides and promotes racism. Gosh, can you imagine how the teachers of color felt, too, who had parents who were well educated? Like, what do you what are you expecting that I'm just going to be in the back row because I'm at the lowest on all of these metrics? I have you know, I mean, it's just it's offensive on every level. And the thing about being followed around a store, I've talked about this before, but I realize that sometimes black people get followed around the store in a way that a white person might not, because, you know, they'll just some racists would assume you're a shoplifter. Guess what happens to most women, too? I mean,

irrespective of color, because women are the ones who shove the things in their bag. Men aren't generally doing it. I mean, this is the truth. It's like, all right. So it's all fraught and it's complicated and it's got a lot of layers on it. But one thing's clear, and that's it's wrong. And it's wrong to punish a teacher who speaks up against it, which is clearly, in this reporter's view, what just happened to Ramona. So, Ramona, what was the first way in which you spoke up against all of this? Well, I just I'm not I've never been politically active. So it was an uncomfortable thing to to sort of talk about. I just want to say that.

At first, we didn't really know what the heck was going on. But I went to a meeting with a group of parents about seven months ago and shared some of the reading material. That was the very first time Nicole Solis was there and several other parents in our group, NK parents. We all were very concerned. We knew something wasn't right. And then I spoke at a community-based meeting and discussion on critical race theory and in the schools shortly thereafter.

I also spoke out at the Senate Ethics Oversight Hearing on education, which seemingly fell on deaf ears, go figure. And so this all has sort of come to light in the past seven months and taken on momentum and of it, you know, taken on momentum, sort of culminating with that legal insurrection blog in July. Doing the full story. So what sort of alleged retaliatory behavior did you start to see once you started speaking out? Oh, my goodness.

Well, right away, I was taken to human resources for ridiculous things, things like teaching the Declaration of Independence, pronouncing a student's name wrong, walking out of the building during a fire alarm, incorrectly, just crazy things that I simply, you know, just harassing me constantly at me. So, and then, of course, the harassment continued at the start of this year. I was attacked verbally by a, in a very angry way. This is a colleague who I respect. She was my friend. And to be spoken to in such a disrespectful way and called a name, I thought was uncalled for and shocking to me. Then at a faculty meeting, the math teacher, a math teacher lashed out at me as well, and told me to shut up. He didn't want to hear anything that I had to say. I was only making, talking about a reading assignment or a reading mandate

that we were discussing very friendly, you know, everybody in the faculty meeting, he did, he did apologize though. I guess that makes it okay. And then various other, you know, sort of like outbursts. And I really think that this is the way this left wing mob likes to behave when they see that they are losing the battle. feel this way, or have an open discussion with the faculty and perhaps even children who might have a discussion, they go behind your back and they undermine you. They make things up about you. They harass and bully you and they gang up on you. And they silence the majority of teachers who are silently with me, you know, but this is the way they behave in the hopes that I would just back down and cower away and remain silent. So not true. Why not do it right? Why not just go along to get along, keep your job, keep your head down. Don't make waves. Why did you keep speaking out?

What was the message and why was it so important? Because I love my children and I love the country and I believe in this country. And I also care a great deal about education. I care a great deal about my students and this is wrong. And what kind of a human being would I be if I said nothing? I know that sounds very cliche, but this is the truth. I'd rather lose my job, get suspended, be, you know, they can harass me, do whatever they want. It's not going to stop me from speaking the truth and getting the story out there. I'm speaking the truth. I have all the evidence to back up what I'm saying about this terrible, egregious curriculum. And they can bully me and harass me all they want, have at it. So,

you know, it's, and also, I just want to say that if somebody doesn't speak out for educators, and I know there are many of us who are listening, many educators who are listening, then they win. They get to bury this and use our students and my children as their personal political weapons against the nation. And I can't allow that. Can't do it. Love my kids too much. What do you think they're doing to the children? What effect is all of this meant to have on children and having? Well, the effect is this. Children at my school actually believe that many white people are racist, myself included, because I spoke out against this curriculum. Children said to me, Miss, why don't you want black books to be taught? Of course, my response was, what are you talking about?

Why would you say that? There isn't a lesson plan that I've ever created that hasn't been filled with diversity and multicultural literature. So I was curious, where are you getting this message from? Of course, young people can't really speak to exactly where they're getting it from, because it's most likely an adult who is saying it to them. So the kids are seeing the United States as something to be feared, as a racist and unfair country. At one point last year, kids weren't standing anymore for the Pledge of Allegiance, not all kids, but the majority of one class in particular chose to sit down and protest. And then there were comments made to me and little persnickety

comments about the country, about my political affiliations, of which they know nothing about, because I don't believe teachers should be talking about politics to minor children, but things like that. So kids are starting to believe that this country is bad and that they need to fight for what is right, you know, fight for justice, social justice. They they're being taught, you know, so that is what I'm seeing a great divide and hatred for the United States. So your teacher or your principal, by the way, why did you get in trouble for teaching the Declaration of Independence? Oh, well, at the time, I had no idea why I was getting in trouble, because this was back in November when it all started, when it was just first rolled out. When we received the curriculum materials, I was trying to be positive about everything. And I

thought, oh, great, I might as well start with the Declaration of Independence and teach an essay around it. Maybe the kids would like to learn how to write a reflective essay on the Declaration of Independence. Well, hell broke loose, apparently, because I was pulled to human resources and allegedly they like to use this legal googly gop language to scare you. Allegedly, I had taught a piece of literature that my students were going to be where that was supposed to be taught for a writing assessment that, by the way, wasn't true and never actually happened. But allegedly, I had taught this, the Declaration of Independence prior to a writing assessment. So my kids were privy to this secret information that maybe some other child in the school wasn't privy to. So I don't know. So you felt clearly like it was thing after thing, like you didn't follow the protocol on the fire drill or what have you. And any of these things normally just if you

actually had done something wrong, probably would have resulted in like a warning, right? I mean, it seems like they went to DEF CON one very fast with you. And then last night, what happened? Oh, well, yesterday I went to school and very, you know, like any other normal day, walked into the building and the secretary said, Miss Bessinger, you're going to the faculty lounge for the day. And I said, why? And she said, I don't know. That's just where they they want you to go for the day. So I said, well, who are you know, who's they and, and why would I be spending the day in the faculty lounge? I don't know. But that's where you have to go. So of course, I went down to the faculty lounge, where it was, you know, subzero temperatures freezing, and sat there and waited for someone to tell me why I was down there. And nobody ever told me, nobody ever gave me any explanation. And there I was, left for the entire

day. And in fact, it wasn't until I was that this five-day suspension without pay for this other ridiculous allegation was rendered and that I would be now moved out of the school and involuntarily transferred to another school to be announced, by the way, because I had said that I was concerned about hostility in the school towards me, rightly so. But I wasn't concerned about the entire faculty. I'm not afraid to walk into the building. I'm concerned about legitimate, you know, things that are said at meetings, legitimate being legitimately being called privileged, or, you know, people commenting on the way I look or dress or speak or whatever, those things are not appropriate, and they need to be addressed by the professionals in the building. I shouldn't be further punished by being moved out of the building now and

silenced from speaking out about what is happening at my middle school. But that is, in fact, what they did. Five days suspension, which I'm going to fight. Instead of fixing the problem, they're moving you. They're not concerned with any retaliation you may have gotten or behavior by the other faculty. They're just going to me by being really mean to me and, you know, not paying me for five days for who knows what, you know, I've done a very good job. I'm a very good teacher. My teacher evaluations will speak to that, but I don't even want to have to defend myself. I shouldn't even have to say that, you know, but it's, they know that they hold all the cards, that I am vulnerable to their whatever they want to do. I'm a pawn on a chessboard for this administration. And they can harass me, they can weaponize the children, they can move me to another school, they can take away my livelihood. They can do whatever they want, harass and harangue me for as long as they want, and just get away with it. Because that's what these bullies do. They're doing it to teachers across the nation. That's why, that's why, by the way, there's a teacher shortage in many urban

school districts. And currently, I think 200, maybe more teachers have resigned from the private providence school district and why is that well because many are choosing to do that rather than fight and i don't blame them it's not easy it's not easy i've had to really you know put that armor around me meanwhile meanwhile the date like the stats out of the providence school suggest they need to be focused on keeping good teachers who want to really teach kids. There was a Wall Street Journal report July 7th, 2019. This is how it began. Peeling lead paint, brown water, leaking sewage pipes, broken asbestos tiles, rodents, frigid and chaotic classrooms and student failure were all documented in a 93 page review by the Johns Hopkins Institute for Education Policy conducted at the request of the Rhode Island Education Commissioner, saying this is an example of government failure. Five percent of Providence eighth graders on average scored proficient in math in 2015 through 2017 school years. Five percent. Take a look at Newark, which is not exactly Newark for its grade schools. They're at least at 21 percent. Worcester Mass, not far away, twice as proficient as those in Providence.

And instead of focusing on the 5 percent, I guess I should say the 95 percent of Providence eighth graders who are not proficient in math, they're focused on you. They're focused on you they're focused on you and privilege and who's oppressed and who's an oppressor i mean you tell me whether they've got their priority priorities straight that would be a hard no they do not they're not pushing children to to to teach they're not demanding of children you know or teachers to teach reading and writing. I have students who are illiterate in my classroom. And I know that that's not going to make a lot of, you know, my colleagues happy to say that. But they know this is true.

Children are not learning how to read and write. And nor is my child in his school currently. What we were mandated to do last year was, we don't, you know, tell your students they shouldn't have to read the book that we were reading at the time. It was called Bull Run, vetted by the New York Times. They were told to listen. We were told to provide audio recordings of this book so kids wouldn't

have to actually read the book read the literature they could just listen now we always have audio to accompany reading so it's not that so I know there are going to be teachers out there saying wait a minute wait a minute no it wasn't that We were specifically mandated to tell kids not to read and to listen on audio books. And I know this is happening at my son's school because he had that diary of a part-time Indian with all the pornography in it that he was told to go home and listen to on audio books as well, because they don't want kids to have to skip through those important sections about race, those important sections in my son's case about sex and pornographic sections in my son's case. And at my school, it was all race-based.

They don't want kids to miss a moment of that. They want them really tuned in. And rather than read and write, by all means, have them listen all the time. What grade is your son in? 10th grade. He's in an American literature class that is really actually not American literature at all. The literature is actually printed and written in America, but there's no historical basis for any of the literature except for To Kill a Mockingbird and The Crucible. So I love the fact that The Crucible is taught at the end where the people who speak out against the establishment and speak for truth are burnt at the stake. Hello. Ramona, so what, because now we see the DOJ cracking down or threatening to crack down on parents who speak up about exactly these issues at their school

board meetings, because parents are figuring it out and getting louder in a great way. But they're going to intimidate them too. So you're right in the mix of all of this. You're on the teacher and parent end of it. What do you want parents out there to know? Because I'll tell you, some people who I really love and care about recently were saying to me like, this is critical race theory is not really taught in these schools and this isn't really an issue. And I'm jumping up and down having lived it saying, I'm telling you it's a thing and it's dangerous. That's what you're doing to in a way that may actually cost you your livelihood. What do you want people to know? What's the takeaway?

We must intervene. We need every single parent in this country to speak out and to continue to speak out, not only at their school board meetings, but we need teachers to feel emboldened and brave enough to speak out against what is happening. Because if we do not speak out, we will not recognize this country in eight years. They're starting with our children, but they're going to end with our homes, our culture, our history, our way of life as we know it. That is what is happening. And I hope I don't sound like I'm exaggerating, but that is the end game with all of this terrible, terrible material. So I would encourage parents to attend school committee meetings. I would encourage teachers to quietly shut their door and teach the truth, teach about

the Holocaust, teach Frederick Douglass and all the multicultural literature that is actually vetted, not by the New York Times, but in the canonical texts. And also, I would encourage parents to feel comfortable about asking this question, what book is my child reading this quarter? And what project is my child mandated to complete? Because in that book, and in that project, you will see all of the things that I'm talking about, the racialized material, in some cases, the pornographic material, it will all be there. So what school districts like to do is send parents links to 500 pages of curriculum because they understand it's overwhelming. I'm recommending this as a teacher. Ask a teacher about the book and project that is being taught in their English class, and there you will find all of it. And just to put a period on the end of that,

we didn't get to this, but you were told you would no longer be able to teach the Holocaust when you asked why. You were told, you allege you were told, we do not teach the Holocaust because kids can't relate to the story. Okay. That's a reason not to just skip right over that whole World War II thing. And then the book that you were tweeting about was called Sex Plus by Lacey Green, finding in your school library, I understand. And we had to look at this talking about what is kink? And it goes into kink. And I'll just give the viewers and the listeners a little sample so they understand what you're objecting to. In sex toys, a chapter, they talk about vibrators, then and now. What's your sex toy made of?

Visiting the sex shop, cleaning sex toys, talking about the various sex toys in great detail. I mean, just I can't even repeat some of these terms in here, but it's not something you'd want your middle schooler having anything to do with. It's insane what's happening and it's past time to pay attention and speak up. Ramona, we'll continue to follow this. And if they fire you, please let us know and I will be the first to publicly humiliate everyone involved. It's a pleasure talking to you. Thank you so much for having me on your show. Thank you. Of course. We're with you. We are behind you. Listen, don't miss tomorrow. We're doing a deep dive into the deep state with Glenn Greenwald and go to youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly to watch the show. Subscribe now. I appreciate it.