The MeidasTouch Podcast - All Hell Breaks Loose as Trump and Elon Go to War

Episode Date: June 5, 2025

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump and Elon Musk going to war in public with Elon saying Trump would not have won the 2024 election without him and Trump saying that Elon has Trump Derangement Syndrome. Fair Harbor: Go to https://FairHarborClothing.com/MEIDAS and use promo code: MEIDAS for 20% OFF your first purchase. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Dems would control the House and the Republicans would be 51 to 49 in the Senate. Such ingratitude, Elon Musk posts. Then Elon Musk stopped following Donald Trump's top advisor, Stephen Miller. It should be noted that Stephen Miller's wife left the White House to work for Elon Musk currently. No news on the status of Stephen Miller's wife, although rumors were swirling as Stephen Miller's wife left the White House to work for Elon Musk. Elon Musk continues to make posts like this.

The Trump administration should recognize Elon's point about the budget and build a bridge with him and the majority of Americans who want to see us cut spending. Exactly, says Elon Musk. Our editor in chief, Ron Filipkowski, responded to Elon Musk's post about that without Musk, Trump would not have won the election and that Trump is showing such ingratitude. Our editor in chief Ron Filipkowski writes, we need the details. Elon Musk continued to make post after post. He was reposting Donald Trump's messages from 2012, like Donald Trump saying, no members of Congress should be eligible

for reelection if our country's budget is not balanced. Deficits not allowed. Elon Musk responded to that 100%. Where is that Donald Trump? In other words, is what Elon Musk is saying, because this budget bill that Donald Trump and Mike Johnson are pushing is an absolute disaster. Now, I think it's an absolute disaster because it will take off 10 to 20 million people from Medicaid. It will attack Medicare. It will take people off their Affordable Care Act plans.

It takes away supplemental nutrition assistance program benefits, food stamps for people. It cuts people's rental assistance. It will lead to many more people, millions of people potentially becoming unhoused and attacks women's reproductive rights. It's a massive transfer of wealth to billionaires in the forms of trillions of dollars of tax cuts and it adds to the deficit trillions of trillions of dollars of tax cuts and it adds to the deficit trillions and trillions of dollars. Elon Musk hates the budget bill because it adds to the deficit trillions of dollars,

or at least that's the reason that he's giving why he hates the disastrous budget bill. Elon Musk reposts this from Donald Trump July 31st, 2012. Again, no member of Congress should be eligible for re-election. Then Elon Musk posts this video of Donald Trump and says, this is false what you're saying. This was from the press conference earlier in the day with Friedrich Maulers, the German Chancellor in the Oval Office. I did a whole other video on that earlier.

It was really deranged where Donald Trump was like, I got off the phone with Putin and I told Putin that the war in Ukraine is like two kids playing hockey against each other who get into a hockey fight. That's what, go back and watch the other video I did on this. But in this clip, I'll play it for you, Trump goes, I'm very disappointed with Elon. I've helped him a lot. He knew the inner workings of the bill better than anybody sitting here. He had no problem with it. All of a sudden he had a problem and he knew the inner workings of the bill better than anybody sitting here, he had no problem with it, all of a sudden he had a problem, and he only developed the problem when he found out we're going to cut the EV mandate, the electric vehicle mandate.

Elon Musk then writes, false, this bill was never shown to me even once, and was passed in the dead of night so fast that almost no one in Congress could even read what was in the bill. Here's what Trump said at that disastrous Oval Office presser. of this bill better than almost anybody sitting here, better than you people. He knew everything about it. He had no problem with it. All of a sudden he had a problem and he only developed the problem when he found out that we're gonna have to cut the EV mandate

because that's billions and billions of dollars and it really is unfair. We wanna have cars of all types, electric. We wanna have electric, but we wanna have gasoline, combustion. We wanna have different, we wanna have hybrids. We wanna have all, we wanna be have gasoline, combustion. We want to have different, we want to have hybrids. We want to have all, we want to be able to sell everything. And when that was cut and Congress wanted to cut it,

it became a little bit different. And I can understand that, but he knew every aspect of this bill. He knew it better than almost anybody. And he never had a problem until right after he left left and if you saw the statements he made about me, which I'm sure you can get very easily It's very fresh on tape He said the most beautiful things about me and he hasn't said bad about me personally, but I'm sure that'll be next But I'm I'm very disappointed in

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and beautiful. Everyone knows this. Either you get a big and ugly bill or a slim and beautiful bill. Slim and beautiful is the way. Then Elon Musk says, where is this guy today? And it's all of Donald Trump's posts from 2012, 2011, 2013, with Donald Trump saying, we could use the balanced budget amendment. Politicians don't have the will to cut spending. I cannot believe the Republicans are extending the debt ceiling. I am a Republican and I am embarrassed.

That was 2013. We need a balanced budget amendment am embarrassed. That was 2013. We need a balanced budget amendment because Congress has no fiscal discipline. July 25, 2011. The Republican should not give Barack Obama the authority to raise the debt another $1.2 trillion. January 13, 2012. It should be noted that this disastrous budget bill that Trump's trying to push raises the debt ceiling by four trillion dollars. I could go on and read those posts, but you get the point.

It's Donald Trump saying the exact opposite things about what he's doing right now. This is Donald Trump in the Oval Office attacking Elon Musk. He says, I think what's really going on here is that Elon Musk misses the place that Musk wants to be here in the Oval Office. And that Musk has Trump derangement syndrome here play this clip, embrace it. And some of them actually become hostile. I don't know what it is. It's sort of Trump derangement syndrome, I guess they call it. But we have it with us too. They leave and they wake up in the morning and the glamour is gone.

The whole world is different and they become hostile. I don't know what it is. Someday you'll write a book about it and you'll let us know. Yeah. Donald Trump says that Elon Musk wore a hat that said Trump is always right. And so since Elon Musk wore the hat, once you wear the hat, there's no going back So what Donald Trump was saying with the German Chancellor Friedlich Mars next to him I'm just thinking if you're like in Germany and you're watching this And you have Donald Trump's like he wore the hat Once you wear the hat, there's no going back. You wear a hat that says MAGA you're in the cult your play this clip

Elon and I had a great relationship. I don't know if we're well anymore. I was surprised because you were here. Everybody in this room practically was here as we had a wonderful send off. He said wonderful things about me. You couldn't have nicer said the best thing. He's worn the hat.

Trump was right about everything. And I am right about the great, big, beautiful bill. We call it a great, big, beautiful bill because that's what it is. And again, biggest tax cuts in history, biggest economic development moves anywhere. We've never done anything like it. Business is spurred. And I don't know if you've seen the numbers, but the numbers And not just people in Germany, people all around the world, of course, watching this going, what the hell is happening in America? I don't know. I'm, I'm opposing this. I'm resisting this. We're not all we're not all like this. I promise you. Okay. Donald Trump then says,

I don't know what happened to Elon. He was very happy, very happy man. He stood with me in the Oval Office. He had that black eye. Remember everybody when he had a black eye. I was gonna give him makeup I told him Elon you should use some makeup, but he didn't want to wear the makeup here play this clip He wanted that person a certain person and we said no and Yeah, I can understand why he's upset. Remember he was here for a long time. You saw a man who was very happy when he stood behind the oval desk and even with the black eye I said you want a little makeup we'll get you a little makeup but he said no I don't think so which is

interesting and very nice he wants to be who he is so you could make that statement too I guess. Look Elon.— Oh my gosh, this whole feud between Elon Musk and Donald Trump is one of the most humiliating things. Then Elon Musk reposts an account called Autism Capital that says, Elon continues to mount the high school pressure campaign. Meanwhile, Tesla stock was tanking as a result of this fight. The Wall Street Journal headline from last evening, yesterday evening, Trump is losing patience with Musk's outburst over Megabill. So I suppose it was just a matter of time. We now see that reeling House Republicans are now terrified that Musk is going to target them next.

So now you have House Republicans worried that Elon Musk is going to fund primary challenges to them. And then I go back to Botox, Mag and Mike Johnson. Remember what Botox, Mag and Mike had to say? Botox, Mag and Mike Johnson back in March said that Elon's algorithms figured this all out. It was going to make the budget amazing. Elon's a genius. And Elon is basically the brains behind everything that's going on in

the Republican House and Senate. Well, now Elon is at war with y'all. So what the hell is happening? Play this clip. We wanted to pass a resolution that would effectively free spending so that the administration can continue its incredible work through Doge and through the other efforts of the administration to go in and root out the fraud, waste and abuse that we've been trying to target in Congress for decades, but we haven't been able to get to it because we didn't have the algorithms that Elon has. We didn't have the access to all the data and the funding. And so now the game has changed.

So we needed to hold the line in what we're doing right now so that when we get to the next fiscal year, FY26, which we will begin work on immediately now that this is done, we'll be able to incorporate all those savings and all the new transformational kinds of policies the administration is working with us to bring about. So this bill effectively does freeze funding,

except that what you said, it adds a little to defense. That's what Pete Hegseth said he needed the Department of Defense, some flexibility and $6 billion additional dollars for the immediate needs. And it reduces non-defense discretionary spending by 13, about $13 billion. So overall a $7 billion savings to the American people. And Mark, we are just getting started. That's why I call him Botox Mega Mike. That was the Botox Mega Mike. Thanks for watching. We'll keep you posted on what's going on here. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 5 million subscribers. Can't get enough Midas? free now at MidasPlus.com