The MeidasTouch Podcast - All Hell Breaks Loose in UK Parliament Over Trump and Epstein

Episode Date: February 5, 2026

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on hell breaking loose in the UK Parliament over Trump and Epstein’s connection with Peter Mandelson, the former Ambassador to the United States, and the growing scandal could topple Prime Minister Kier Starmer’s government. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Jeffrey Epstein's closest friends who was all throughout these files. He sent his underwear and photos with girls, engaged in some of the most disgusting communications with Epstein and likely some of the most grotesque behavior. And it turned out that the government, under Prime Minister Kierre Starmer, when they were vetting Mendelsohn who became the UK ambassador to the United States, the vetting showed these relationships with Epstein. And apparently, Mandelson said, ah, what you're hearing is overblown.

And I didn't really have these extensive relationships. And the government brought in Mandelson and kept him as a lord, kept him in these positions, kept him as the, and pointed him as the ambassador. And now this is like toppling the government in the UK right now. Prime Minister Kier-Starmour did his best to try to defend the fact that he, appointed Peter Mandelson to be U.K. ambassador to the United States. But unlike in the United States, where this Trump cabal just says, whatever, you know, we don't care. We're just going to ignore the fact that Donald Trump appeared 38,000 times in the United Kingdom. It's a big deal to have

affiliations with the world's biggest pedo in Jeffrey Epstein. And so we're seeing the domino effects of the Epstein files in every other country other than in the United States government under the Trump regime where they just deny that Donald Trump appears 38,000 times and Trump's at the center of the cabal. This is a very difficult time for Prime Minister Kierre Starmer to try to survive this. Let me just show you what went down and you'll see the opposition in Parliament. This is very, you know, the Parliament in general in the UK, it's very combative. It's very in your face. You have to stand up there and justify yourself, you know, on the floor of parliament. But I just want to share with you, you know, the types of questioning that Kierre Starmer

was given by the opposition. Let's watch this first clip right here. It absolutely beggars belief. And if we want to clean up politics, then this sort of thing should not be being allowed to happen. Politics is a difficult place. We know that. But this, this was down to judgment. It was down to the judgment of one person or was it the judgment of others around that person? So I urge the Honourable and Right Honourable Members on the Labour Benches opposite. Do the right thing this evening. Stand up for democracy, stand up for Parliament and stand up for decency. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Liberation Day. That is how Mandelson described the day of Epstein's release for prison for procuring children to be trafficked and raped. Mandelson's next message was, how is freedom feeling? Epstein replied, she feels fresh, firm and creamy. Mandelson's next reply, naughty boy. Now we haven't seen this email, I'll admit.

when the ambassador was appointed. But let's look at what we did know when he was appointed ambassador. We knew at that point that he had consoled this paedophile, consoled him on his being found guilty and convicted for just one of the many crimes he had committed.

We also knew that while he was Deputy Prime Minister of this country and Business and Trade Secretary carrying the flag of our great nation, on an official visit to New York, he stayed in a convicted paedophiles flat. How dare he do that while representing this country? But the idea that no one in the cabinet office,

no one of the Department of Business to Trade, no civil servant, no political appointee knew that he'd said, no, I don't need a hotel, thank you ever so much. I'm going to stay at my friend Epstein's house. Oh, by the way, he happens to currently be in prison, incarcerated. but I'm going to stay at his house anyway. That to me raises serious questions about why he was not pursued for misconduct in public office

back at that point. And no one can say that the Labour government did not know because having been a civil servant, I knew where my ministers were staying, when they were abroad, not sure they always wanted me to know, but I knew, and none of them would have ever done that. This is the heart of the issue with the judgment of the Prime Minister.

Now on Monday, one of its ministers, the government's minister, said, nobody objected when Mandelson was appointed. I would say, look at Hansard, I remember objecting very, very clearly and repeatedly. Because it was very clear at that point that Mandelson had repeatedly said that Pepstein did not deserve to be in prison, that this was an awful time for him, how he was caring and thinking for his good friend. Why was there no investigation and why was the vetting not done right? Because there is no question that the vetting cannot have been conducted properly.

I have been through vetting myself. Now, I accept it was an officer minister. But as a civil servant, I've been sat in a room with a rather elderly gentleman for two hours, asked about my every sexual proclivity, asked about when I lost my virginity, asked about whether I'd taken drugs or not, asked about every single aspect of my life. Because civil servants, whether they be apolitical or politicians in this place,

should hold themselves accountable and be right to be appointed for these roles. Here's another clip right here. Let's play it. This has been an absolutely extraordinary day in British politics. It is not often that there is an audible intake of breath in this chamber, but we all heard it earlier on. That gasp when the Prime Minister admitted that yes, he had known that Peter Mandelson had an ongoing relationship

with Jeffrey Epstein at the point where he appointed him our ambassador to Washington. It is a truly extraordinary admission. And the argument that the Prime Minister is making now, and it is quite incredible, is that he did know, but he didn't know the depth and extent. And this implies that there is some reasonable extent to which you can be in a long-term relationship with the world's most famous pedophile and still be appointed to our ambassador in Washington that you can be, to a certain reasonable in depth,

involved with the world's most corrupt man and still be appointed his majesty's ambassador. And now the prime minister is asking to be taken on trust. Well, after this whole sordid affair, I'm afraid that's just not good enough anymore. The Prime Minister knew, he knew, that Mandelson had stayed in Epstein's house while he was in jail for child prostitution. Did that not set some alarm bells ringing in the mind of the Prime Minister? Or is that not deep enough a relationship to have worried the Prime Minister?

The member for Skipton earlier on told the House that the British government was warned by one of our closest instance. national allies about their deep concerns before his appointment. Did that not set some alarm bells ringing in the mind of the Prime Minister? No, instead, he appointed a man who had twice had to resign over corruption, and now, unbelievably, his argument is, if only there had been some sign that Peter Mandelson was like this. Unbelievable, Madam Deputy Speaker, and this may just be the beginning. We really need to hear an answer now from the Minister on a specific point, which, which ministers ducked and refused to address earlier on. The whole house will hear if he does not answer.

Will the government agree to our full investigations into Mandelson's behaviour while he was our ambassador in Washington? Because on 27th of February last year, Mandelson arranged for the Prime Minister to meet Palantia, a client of Mandelson's company Global Council. That meeting was not recorded in the PM's register of meeting. It only emerged later. Palantir will then awarded a 240 million-pound contract by the government on a direct award rather than a competition.

We need the Cabinet Secretary to examine the circumstances of that contract. Will a minister agree yes or no? And I asked the minister, why wasn't that prime ministerial meeting recorded in the normal way? How many more such lobbyist meetings were there? What other inside information was shared with Mandelson's quiet? And will he now agree to a full inquiry into Mandelson's time as our ambassador? Yes or no? Can furthermore the Minister reassure the House that the proper process has been followed for all number 10's other appointments recently?

Can he say that very clearly to the House and give us that reassurance? Now before I come to the manuscript amendment, Madam Deputy Speaker, let me say something positive about some of the contributions we've heard today from the Labour back benches. the member for the Forest of Dean gave a genuinely superb speech in which he said he would not be able to look victims in the eye if he voted for the government's amendment. He was alone, it was a brave speech, he was not completely alone because we also heard sensible comments from the Labour backbenchers, including from Oldham West, Ashton under Lyme, Witness, Millswood-Thornby,

pointing out that the government's cover-up amendment was simply not going to fly. I think the member for Liverpool Wavertree actually said that she would be ashamed to vote for it, and she was totally, totally right. All those Labour backbenchers have shown their character today. But what a contrast. What a contrast with the behaviour of the Prime Minister, who isn't here, he still hasn't apologised for appointing Mandelson.

And a few hours ago, he was telling this House that these documents couldn't be published. He was saying at PMQs that the leader of the opposition was outrageous and silly for even asking. And here we are, just a few hours later, and the government has added to a total U-turn because they know that they can't get their own people to vote for this shameful proposed cover-up.

The Prime Minister has not been decisive. He only sat Peter Mandelson because we forced him to do. He said again and again that he had full confidence in him. And I think many voters will be thinking, why on earth was the Prime Minister so deeply in hock to this man? The truth he was not out on a limb over in Washington. He was a deeply embedded part of the Prime Minister's operation. He was involved in the selection of some of the MPs here today.

He was involved in the Prime Minister's reshuffle. He was part of the toxic culture that the health secretary, the Labor Health Secretary, has warned about in number 10. And most shamefully of all, we had a former Labor Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, whatever you think of him. He tried to get a document about someone thinks that Peter Mandelson had done. He was really buff. Funnily enough, the documents couldn't be found. Madam Speaker, whatever you think of Gordon Brown, when you choose Peter Mandelson over Gordon Brown, you are making the wrong decision. And here is another clip of what went down. Let's play it.

Directly, could he tell us, did the official security vetting that he received mention Mandelson's ongoing relationship with the paedophile Jeffrey Epstein? And he replied, yes, it did. Now the point is that when the minister says he lied to the Prime Minister, but the Prime Minister knew that the relationship was ongoing. So even if he lied about some other aspects of the relationship, cannot the minister see that the fact there was any ongoing relationship at all with a man who'd been imprisoned for paedophilia and prostitution,

can he not see that that was an impossible position to defend? And no subsequent lies or revelations alter the fact that the prime minister appointed him. When he knew the team. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now here's the exchange involving Prime Minister, Kierre Starrmer.

Of course, for those who aren't in the UK, Labor Party, that's the governing party right now. And you'll see Kierre Starrmer get questioned about what did you know, when did you know it. Does this, you know, what kind of judgment is this that you brought in Mandelson and what does this say about your judgment in other areas? And, you know, and look, here's. Starmor and lots of people who support Starmor, you are like, you know, he's a well-intentioned, you know, and decent, decent human being. So he's trying to address it honestly. And it's a very difficult situation for him to weather.

I'm not sure he's going to be able to survive this. Watch what happens when he's questioned. And you'll see this exchange right here. Can the prime minister tell us, did the official security vetting he received mentioned Manderson's ongoing relationship with the paedophile, Jeffrey Epstein. Prime Minister? Yes, it did. As a result, various questions were put to him.

I intend to disclose to this House, all of the national security, prejudice to international relations on one side. I want to make sure this House sees the full documentation, so it will see for itself the extent to which, the extent to which time and time again, Mandelson completely misrepresented the extent of his relationship with Epstein and lied throughout the process, including in response to the due diligence.

Then there was another line of questioning about a Keir Starrmer meeting with Palantier in the United States. Peter Teal, Teal's in the first. you know, is in a lot of instances in the files as well. And Mandelson, Peter Mandelson, his company, you know, has a lot of links with Palantir as well, as pointed out here. And so it's like you met with Palantir and Mandelson as the Palantir connection with Peter Thiel. And they're all speaking with Epstein in the files here.

Play this clip right here. Briefly, Mr. Speaker, before I hand over to other members of the house, to the conduct of Lord Mandelson whilst he was our ambassador in Washington. And I think that this is very relevant for our debate today, because it exposes again the Prime Minister's lack of judgment in appointing Peter Mandelson as our ambassador. There is obviously now very strong evidence to suggest that Mandelson behaved entirely inappropriately

when he was a Secretary of State in the last Labour government. But there are now equally big questions outstanding about what was happening in 2025 in Washington. And this, as I say, is relevant now. On the 27th of February 2025, the Prime Minister, whilst in Washington, visited the American Data and AI Company Palantir at its headquarters.

The meeting did not appear in the Prime Minister's Register of visits. It only came to light later. Now, Palantir, we should remember or remind ourselves, was a client of Global Council, the company in which Peter Mandelson had a commanding share. Later that year, Palantir received from this government a 240 million pound deal. British companies couldn't compete. That deal was granted by direct award.

Given the allegations now coming to light about Mandelson's conduct, can the minister assure the House that the Cabinet Secretary, will review the circumstances around the award of that contract and assure himself that there are no other such contracts, no other undisclosed meetings, that the government is going to go through all of the communications that Mandelson sent out whilst he was ambassador, messages we must assume, some of which were sent to old business contacts, potential few business contacts, and so on. In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister knew that Peter Mandelson had maintained an unhealthy

relationship with a man who was a convicted Peterfile, and he appointed him to the role of ambassador anyway. Everybody in this House should be shocked by it. It must be concluded that had the Prime Minister been pressed on that point at the time, the appointment would not have been made. But the Prime Minister knew, his aides knew, and the appointment was made. anyway. What else did he know? Only after this humble address, only if the government treats with it in good faith, will we know that? I very much hope that it is not the case that

we find that there are gaps in our security and vetting process. If there are, the government will be able to fix them. But I think it's also likely that we'll see that there were reports that consistently raised concerns that were swept away. And it will then be the duty of the government to disclose who swept them away and why. Ultimate responsibility must rest with the Prime Minister. It is time for him to take responsibility. Yeah. Yeah. And finally, where this kind of netted out is Prime Minister Starmers forced to give the files relating to Mandelson's appointment as the UK ambassador to the United States to Parliament's Intelligence Committee. And, you know, you'll see that there's a rebellion, not just by the opposition.

I want to be clear as well from Labor Party members of Parliament as well. The Labor Party doesn't support, you know, the Labor Party doesn't know what to do because they clearly don't support this. They don't support Mandelson. And it puts them in a difficult situation. Here's what went down. Let's play this clip at the very end when that final order was made. The question is that amendment be made since when an amendment. to the amendment has been proposed as follows that amendment at the end of the amendment

and which shall instead be referred to the intelligence and security committee in parliament the question is the amendment be made and proposed amendment be made as many of that opinion say aye aye the goddrey know i think the eyes habit the eyes habits right the question is that amendment a as amended be made as many of that opinion say aye. Aye. Of the contrary, no, I think the eyes have it. The question is that the motion has amended to be agreed to, as many of that opinion say I.

Ah! Of the contrary, no, I think the eyes have it. The eye have it. Right. Complete. Are you ready, Caroline? Yes. Right? Sorry, point of order, Simon Hall.

Speaker, it's in relation to the point that the Minister made with which would come. the Minister made with regards to the Metropolitan Police asking that certain documents are not released in case they prejudiced a trial or an investigation. You know as well as I do, sir, the importance of privilege to this place. Will your office and Council be working with the Cabinet Office to ensure that the rights and privileges of members of this House are protected? can just say, we're not going to continue the debate, but just to sum up, the question with the Metropolitan Police, the Metropolitan Police have no jurisdiction on what this House may wish to do. It will be whether the government provides or not, but just to let you know, they cannot

dictate to this House. There you have it. Let me know what you think, everybody. That's why I want to show you what's going on in the UK Parliament so you see what's happening, you know, outside of the United States. Let me know what you think hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million and thanks for watching. Thanks for watching. Be sure to add the Midas Touch podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast for new updates every single day.