The MeidasTouch Podcast - Charlie Angus on Canada Fighting Back Against Trump

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Starting point is 00:00:45 Canada is striking back hard and Donald Trump can't handle it. The Premier of Ontario telling Donald Trump, kiss my ass and Premier Doug Ford said, I'm a big guy. So there's a lot of ass. to kiss is what he said. He also said that we are going to unite at the premier level, and we are going to inflict massive amounts of pain against the United States. Let me show you first where Doug Ford, the right-wing conservative premier of Ontario, talks about that Donald Trump needs to kiss his big ass. Here, play this clip.

Starting point is 00:01:21 You sound a little more subdued than you did this morning on the radio when you said Donald Trump could kiss your ass. Did the prime minister tell you to ask you to tone it down a bit? No, he didn't. I'm not going to comment, but he wasn't against that. And I have a lot of real estate on my ass, so he has a lot of room to kiss my ass. So I just do. I'm a big dude.

Starting point is 00:01:45 What can I say? And Donald Trump then posted lots of bluster from Doug Ford, who is the premier of the Canadian province of Ontario. But who was better known as the less character. charismatic, intelligent, and overall unimpressive brother of the late great Rob Ford. America has been carrying Canada for decades, but no longer the U.S. will always be far bigger, richer, and stronger than Canada without the United States. Canada couldn't survive. It's where they get all their money.

Starting point is 00:02:12 And because of their current bad leadership, primarily Governor Carney is how he refers to the well-respected world-renowned leader of the Free World Prime Minister Carney. and his flunky Ford, they will not be allowed to keep taking advantage of the United States. They're key to survival. And for our Canadian viewers, the fact that they would say the right-wing premier of Ontario of the Conservative Party, Doug Ford, is somehow like tied to the hip to Prime Minister Carney. But just goes to show you that Donald Trump doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, number one. But number two, that Canada is united and ready to pummel Donald Trump.

Starting point is 00:02:54 in his despicable regime. Donald Trump goes on to say, remember, much of the electricity, oil, and gas that Canada gets is transported through the USA. Someone should get these clowns to fall in line or the consequences for Canada will be far worse. Canada's unemployment rate is now 10% and rapidly rising. Their businesses are fleeing for the United States.

Starting point is 00:03:18 And it's all because of their failed policies and inept leadership. The days of ripping off our farm, farmers and other businesses are over. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Donald J. Trump now, the United States gets the majority of its crude and a huge amount of its electricity and other critical things like critical minerals from Canada. Everything Donald Trump said in this statement is completely false.

Starting point is 00:03:45 You know, it's like when Donald Trump also says, I'm having negotiations with the Ayatollah. Oh, we have demolished them. They are begging for a deal. He's doing the same loser behavior. He's just a freaking loser. And premier Ford of Ontario says, look, I can go back and forth with this guy. But you know what?

Starting point is 00:04:06 He's a loser. The guy's an idiot. He's a loser. He's a bankruptor. He bankrupts things. I don't even want to deal with such losers. Play this clip. You know, I'm not going to.

Starting point is 00:04:17 I'm just not going to take the bait. This guy's a loser. He's going to be a loser. and simple as that. We're going to fight with everything we have. And, you know, something. I have more courage, more brains of my baby toe than he has in his whole body.

Starting point is 00:04:31 So there you go. More from Ford right here, saying, I'm not going to take any advice from the king of bankruptcies playing this clip. No, I don't respond to a dictator like President Trump, a bully like President Trump. As I said before, he's the type of guy in school that would take your lunch money one day,

Starting point is 00:04:50 take your toque off your head the next day and then steal your running shoes. But I'm not going to take any advice off a guy that's the king of bankruptcies. And he's actually terrifying his own people, taxing his own people. And I'm going to make sure I communicate through the U.S. media. I'm going to be reaching out to every single governor, every single senator, and every single congressperson. And when it comes to the midterms, I have a message to the Americans. Don't vote in a person that's going to kill your jobs. He ran on creating more jobs.

Starting point is 00:05:22 Last time I checked, jobs went down in the U.S. and Ontario created more jobs. He ran on reducing the cost of living. Last time I checked, foods are more expensive down there. Homes are more expensive. And the reason homes are more expensive because he has a tariff on our lumber, which 33% of all homes that are built in the U.S.

Starting point is 00:05:42 use Canadian lumber. So I'm not going to take lessons off President Trump. He's the last guy that I would take care. any lessons off. And it's about Team Canada. We'll see how this goes, but he wants to put pain on Canadians. We'll leverage every bit of pain we possibly can on Americans. And you know what I feel bad for? I've always said I love the American people. I still stand by that statement because there's a lot of people in the U.S. that are calling me saying, way to go,

Starting point is 00:06:11 keep going. You know, your own people, President Trump, don't even like you. And they're going to speak loud and clear when it comes to the midterms. If I was allowed to, I'd be down there door knocking. And then he starts to roll out the plan that Canada can do as a United Canada, that the premiers can do together with Prime Minister Carney. He's like, we could put massive pain on the United States, play this clip. But we could put massive, massive pain on the US. The underest- President Trump underestimates us.

Starting point is 00:06:45 And that's the biggest mistake, underestimating your opponent. He further lays out his plan. and right here. I think we start off with a surcharge. If it escalates, we have to use every tool in our toolbox. We aren't the only one that sends electricity down to the U.S. New Brunswick does, Quebec does, B.C. does, Manitoba does, just to name a few. So we need to get together, all together, and decide if we're going to put surcharges on

Starting point is 00:07:12 the electricity. How can we let them take really inexpensive electricity to, make goods to compete and take jobs from Canadians. You know, you can't square that circle. So we'll use every tool in our toolbox. Then we'll see if President Trump says, do I need Canada? Watch how he does cartwheels and he shouts and screams and we put the surcharge on. Matter of fact, I can't wait.

Starting point is 00:07:38 I cannot wait. Let's be clear. I don't like the guy. Simple. And then again, conservative right-wing premier, who I probably disagree with on a lot of. of stuff. But when it comes to how he's fighting Donald Trump and when it comes to Canada's standing strong together and being united right here, you've got Ford on the right wing in the premier level.

Starting point is 00:08:01 You've got Eby, you've got canoe, NDP, right? On the left, you've got Prime Minister Carney, center left liberal. I mean, you've got a United Canada. Play to do that clip, right? The Prime Minister has my full support in this decision to walk away from a back. deal that would have hurt Canadian workers and undermined Canadian sovereignty. And he has my full support to hit back tariff for tariff, dollar for dollar. But let's be clear, this will not be easy. To stand up for Canada, to stand up against President Trump, we have to withstand the economic pain that will come with this fight.

Starting point is 00:08:45 I want to bring in Charlie Angus, the head of Midas, Canada, to get his reaction. Canada to get his reaction to everything that's going on. Charlie, of course, this weekend, you have Donald Trump's trade war against Canada escalating last-minute demands by the Trump regime while engaged in horrifically bad faith negotiations with Canada. Carney just said to the negotiators, let's get back to Ottawa, we can't deal with these people, you know, and we've learned what those series of additional demands are, including Canada can't do trade deals with other countries unless they get the approval.

Starting point is 00:09:18 of the United States. And then over the past 24, 48 hours, we've seen Trump regime officials, J.D. Vance, Bessent, like, whining. Like, they're being mean to us and they like Canada better than us and they're being so rude. And if we just hurt them more, they're going to come back to the negotiating table and they're going to be, and that's what's going to make them want to do a deal with us. Charlie, talk to us about what's going on. Well, Ben, the straight of your booze is now closed and it's going to be closed for a long time.

Starting point is 00:09:48 and this is going to really hurt because what we saw this past weekend, this had nothing to do with trade negotiations. Donald Trump's team put surrender documents on the table and thought we would sign it. I don't know who was advising them that they thought they'd get away with this. But the idea that in order to be able to access a market, which we had access to based on a trade agreement that was signed with Donald Trump, that we would have a limited tiny access to a market that we would give up, our sovereignty over negotiations of treaties that we would give up the canadian constitutional

Starting point is 00:10:25 rights on provincial jurisdiction on language rights on diversity all these things that are fundamental they think seem to think we're defeated people well we've never been defeated in any battle that i've ever heard of so in canada right now uh there is a sense of unity that is beyond anything we've ever seen and and people i know around the world have been watching this with the boycott and that I mean, I'm even watching right-wing pundits saying there's nothing to be had with these guys. But what I think on the bigger picture, Ben, is that what Donald Trump has sent to the world is a clear message that America's word means nothing, that they can't be trusted on anything, that if you pick a fight with your number one trading partner and treat them as though they were a defeated captive nation and think that you can get away with that, the only thing I'm wondering is at what point is the rest of, the political, media, economic class going to speak up because Donald Trump has now picked the fight that I believe is going to do him in. Talk to us about the unity you're seeing amongst the

Starting point is 00:11:31 premiers, amongst the people around Prime Minister Carney. I know we had heard from the Premier of Monitoba, Wab Canoe, even earlier last week. He was worried when there was going to be a deal that seemed to be, you know, not the greatest deal for a lot of Canadian companies, but was a compromise. And he said, look, I get it. We're Team Canada. We're united. And we'll do it and we'll stand united. But, you know, Cano's like, I see a very weak, pathetic loser in Trump. We see Iran beating the crap out of him. And, you know, he's a flawed person. Cano is putting it nicely. You can't do a deal with a bad person, Cano said. But he goes, look, I'll be united, team Canada. But then the Trump regime did what bad people do.

Starting point is 00:12:15 And perhaps Carney, who's been in the highest level of negotiations, knew that that would happen no matter what. And so rather than it being, you know, him who, you know, just let Donald Trump be Donald Trump. And Trump and Lutnik and all of them did what we expected that they would do. They engaged in heinous conduct at the very end. And it provided Carney with the out. I think Carney knew was my own views.

Starting point is 00:12:40 I think Carney knew that was going to happen. happened eventually. And then Carney said, all right, let's go. And then he was able to deliver that speech to Canada that addressed all the different constituencies or even somebody like Daniel Smith of Alberta, you know, who still is somewhat both sides in this. And we obviously know she's Maple Maga, but it almost puts the Pierre Poliev Maple Maga kind of cornered because it's like, we did everything. What more would you have done other than sell out Canada and take away our sovereignty. Well, I think what was really fascinating over the last week was that Canadians, everybody was on edge because we didn't, I don't think Canadians wanted a deal.

Starting point is 00:13:24 Canadians felt if we gave a deal, if we gave up too much, they would be back the next day demanding more. But there was a sense, well, our prime minister is going to go into this and we are all going to hold the line. And Wob Canoe, he's really, he is Captain Canada. You know, he reminds me the great Phil Esposito and the night. We do everything in hockey. All metaphors in Canada are hockey, but Phil Esposito in 1972 against the Russians when Phil Esposito rallied the team.

Starting point is 00:13:51 When you put Wab Canoe on the ice, he rallies the nation. So he came out first and he said, this is not a good situation, but I'm sticking with the captain here. We are sticking together. And so Canadians were watching those negotiations. When the prime minister called our people home

Starting point is 00:14:09 at midnight on Friday, my phone started to go off, just started to just go crazy. And what I was hearing from people is, thank God. Thank God we knew we were in a war. We knew they were coming for us. We knew that if we signed in good faith because the prime minister said he'd go that extra mile. But then the prime minister said,

Starting point is 00:14:29 you can't trust somebody who signs agreements in pencil. So, you know, this isn't a trade dispute between the prime minister and Donald Trump. This is not Magin, Canada. right now this is the word of the United States is not worth anything. So from the moment that we came home, you've been seeing this sense of, yeah, we're in this, we're in this for the fight. And so Donald Trump's now threatening extraordinary new tariffs and he's going to do this.

Starting point is 00:14:59 And, you know, they're all shouting at us about what they're going to do to us and how much it's going to hurt us. But what we're watching is we're watching the economic crisis unfolding in the United States. the massive debt levels, the fact that on aluminum alone, the Canadian aluminum industry is working at peak production and every American manufacturer is paying an extra $1,500 to $2,000 a ton because of what to punish us? So we're not shouting what we're going to do. Prime Minister Carney said it's going to come down Labor Day.

Starting point is 00:15:33 My feeling is with these latest threats now he's going to destroy our auto sector, Donald Trump hasn't realized what he's done. It's going to make the prime minister target serious, serious retribution. They're going to target red states. We're coming into the midterms. You put an export tax on potash and you are going to destroy the American farm economy in no time. And all those red state governors are going to be freaking out. So I see potash.

Starting point is 00:16:00 I see electricity. Premier Eby's talked about the key critical minerals that are essential to Silicon Valley. Donald Trump has forced this fight. You're seeing from our prime minister, he's just carrying on. Canadians are hunkering down. We are ready for this. We are unified in a way we've never been before. And I will also say, Ben, the decision at the last second to pick a fight over French language rights in our country,

Starting point is 00:16:25 that's the political third rail in Canada. We've survived for 250-some years by this delicate constitutional dance on language. And Donald Trump decided to stick his finger in that socket. Well, every Canadian that I know is doing a little bit of French today. Maitre Sheenou, we are masters of our own house. It's a great French slogan and every Canadian is using it. So he's unified us in a way that nobody else could have. So for that, Donald, we're going to drink some Canadian whiskey tonight.

Starting point is 00:16:54 Then you've got the idiot Treasury Secretary in the United States, Bessent, who couldn't run his own $5 billion fund when he was in the private sector and ran it into the ground. and he wants to make today the day of economic D-Day. And so he shows up and gives this press conference. And he says, the world, you're going to have to choose the United States or Iran. And as I was watching that, too, I was reflecting. I'm like, do you also realize what a sign of weakness that even is that you now had to tell the world you need to make the choice?

Starting point is 00:17:29 Is it going to be the U.S.? Or is it going to be Iran? And you already have, you know, China's foreign ministry spokesperson put out a statement saying, Iran, Iran, let me. Iran, you want us to say a letter? You know, I mean, they said it more diplomatically. They said, we don't support any of this economic coercion, you know, internationally. And then Iran's parliament leader, M. B. Galabov put out a statement saying, we've already heard from a lot of our own allies and no one takes the United States seriously. But, you know, you need alliances.

Starting point is 00:18:00 If you're going to go and do things, you know, whether it's actual kinetic war, although I don't like the term, it feels like it reduces the war crimes that are being used, you know, and the horrible, whether it's an actual war or whether it is a trade war or whatever you're doing geopolitically, you need friends, you need allies, you need to move together and Trump's isolated himself. And so it's just like the weakest, you know, it's like, what do you even doing, you know? And it's like, we're super serious when it comes to China this time. We're going to be, really? You're going to pick that fight too? Okay, you're going to fight. You're going to fight everybody? It's just, it's, you know, look, Trump was ranting and raving like a lunatic, Charlie,

Starting point is 00:18:41 in the 70s and the 80s about, and he was viewed as a loser lunatic. All these MAGA people who are running the government are all loser lunatics, whose MAGA arc were being outcasts because they were horrible humans, and they couldn't, they didn't do things good. So it's ironic that they call this Operation Outcast regarding Iran right now when they're all outcasts and they've like, then these losers have taken over the U.S. guy. Just a bunch of losers, Charlie. It sucks.

Starting point is 00:19:07 Well, I mean, but the problem is, again, you know, when is the American political, economic media machine going to stand up? I mean, I heard someone on the news today talking, well, Prime Minister Carney blew off some steam on the weekend. And now Donald Trump's blowing off steam. that's that's BS. This was a unilateral attack on a neighbor that has been a loyal ally forever. And now this loyal neighbor and friend is going to fight back and is going to hurt you in a big way because we are in the fight for our lives. That's what's at stake here. The fact that they're using the term D-Day against Iran, I think is also really offensive to Canadians because we were at D-Day. And at D-Day, we were there with our allies and we were fighting fascists.

Starting point is 00:19:58 And, you know, Dwight D. Eisenhower, we respected him as the global leader at the time, not because he was an American, but because he was a good general who understood how to work with people and how to work across really diverse lines. So for us, D-Day has a really sacred meaning. So we see this as our D-Day. Donald, you're picking a fight with the Canadians who landed at Juneau Beach and got further on that first day than any of the allies while you were still trapped on the beach, our American friends. We were pushing into the Nazi lines. So we see this as an existential threat because it is an existential threat.

Starting point is 00:20:36 But right now, this fight is unifying us, whereas Donald Trump is creating chaos. We are going to take hits. We know that. But I think what the American people need to consider is what happens when we come back and decide that, hey, what's the electricity rate you're paying at Trump Tower? Well, maybe we'll add 25 or 30 percent on that. What's that going to do to the cost of living? What's it going to do to the cost of living when potash gets hit? Critical minerals start shutting down Silicon Valley because you threaten our auto sector.

Starting point is 00:21:09 We've got to come back. We've got to drop the gloves. We've got to go for this. And so at the end of the day, you're doing this, Donald. to the neighbor that was the most trustworthy that you could have had, we would have had your back on anything. And it really sends a message like, who is this guy and who are his friends other than gangsters,

Starting point is 00:21:30 other than criminals, other than sexual predators like Epstein, other than, you know, despots like Putin and the head of North Korea, Netanyahu, you would choose them any day over Canada? We'll go for it, Donald. We'll see how this ends at the end of the day. Before we go, your message right now to the Trump regime, we know they watch this very, very carefully. Donald, in Canada, we know who you are. You're scum, Donald. You are the scum of the earth.

Starting point is 00:22:00 If you treat people like that. And I think of Canada and the incredible lands that we have here that we have to protect. And I think of our communities that stick together, our multicultural, diverse identities and our language issues. we are a nation built, not on bluster. We are a nation that had to be forged through hard compromises of being able to work together because, you know, there's no such thing as a Marlboro man in Canada. You don't survive as Marlboro man here. It's minus 45. You've got to go to your neighbor.

Starting point is 00:22:32 You've got to knock on their door. And you've got to trust that your neighbor will help you, whether they agree with you or whether they don't. That's what makes Canada who we are. We've had to stick together. We've had to work together. and we love, we love, we love the diversity of this land. And man, we will do anything to protect it. And the other thing, Donald, you've never shown up for a fight.

Starting point is 00:22:56 You've always had people go and die for you. Well, Canadians show up and we don't stop until the job's done. So you think this is going to be a fight you're going to win? You've already lost Donald. You lost because you have no moral character. You have no moral fiber. And when you are down, Donald, and when you are finally in jail as the predator criminal that you are, Canadians will be toasting each other and celebrating with democratic allies around the world because your days are numbered.

Starting point is 00:23:27 Charlie Angus, leader of Midas Canada, catch Charlie Angus traveling around Canada giving speeches as part of the resistance tour. Charlie, great to see you as always. Thank you so much, I can't wait to Canadians get a copy. though of WTF America because there's a whole chapter on Midas Canada and everybody out there. Well, Ben, I just want to thank you. And, you know, we're coming up to our one-year anniversary of Midas Canada. And people say, why'd you go with Midas Touch? Well, once we started talking about fascism, I don't think we were on a national news show ever again in Canada. And you guys reached out from the get-go. And we've been working ever since because you're not afraid to say what

Starting point is 00:24:06 has to be said. We were calling out fascism from day one. And here it is, the gangster fascist. And at the end of the day, we're all going to be celebrating when they go down. So thanks so much. And we can't wait for that book to get out. Everybody subscribe to the Midas Canada YouTube channel. And Charlie, that's the point I make in the WTF America book. Is that what this is about is it's about international solidarity against fascism. The forces of fascism are aligned internationally.

Starting point is 00:24:33 Trump is a vessel of that in the United States. But we see what was emerging in Canada. We saw what was emerging in Austria. We see it internationally. Absolutely. And so if we want to be equipped to fight it, we've got to form these alliances. Frankly, the way Canada is reaching out and forming alliances internationally and is becoming the leader of a new shaping order in the world.

Starting point is 00:24:57 Thank you, Charlie. Everybody subscribe to Midas Canada. Thanks so much. Before you go, our book, WTF America is available for pre-order now. It's the story of how we got here and how we fight our way back. To pre-order, scan the QR code, or click the link in the description. Let's do this.

The MeidasTouch Podcast - Charlie Angus on Canada Fighting Back Against Trump

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