The MeidasTouch Podcast - Congressman Brendan Boyle Calls out Trump for Economic Disaster

Episode Date: September 13, 2025

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump forcing the government into a potential shutdown as his lies about bringing in $17 trillion have been utterly exposed and Meiselas interviews Democratic Congressman Brendan Boyle who is the Ranking Member of the House Budget Committee who discusses the economic disaster Trump has caused. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Despite Donald Trump saying he's completely eliminated inflation, that couldn't be further from the truth, but that's not a shocker. He lies about everything. Inflation came in hot earlier in the day. We got the August numbers. Core inflation was 3.1% year over year. And then inflation in general was up 2.9% up significantly from the prior readings. When you start to look as well into some of the other kind of. of indicators like the inflation of like coffee up 21% since last August. Audio equipment

up 12% since last August. Living in dining room furniture, 10% tools up 6% jewelry and watches up 6% of 6% and men's pants up 6% and 4% toilet paper up 5%. And then you go into all of your other groceries and it's up significantly. And this doesn't shouldn't come as a shock to most Americans. I mean, you go to a supermarket, you go out and about, and you know, things are significantly more expensive than they were last year, despite Donald Trump making posts like he did yesterday, saying, no inflation, exclamation point, exclamation point. Too late must lower the rate big right now. Powell is a total disaster who doesn't have a clue, President D.J.T. And he's attacking the chairman of the Federal Reserve there, Jerome Powell, who Donald Trump himself,

appointed and those attacks further erode confidence in our markets where your independent central banker is under attack by your executive branch. That's what we see in what Trump would call third world countries. But who could have predicted this? Who could have said that we would be in this situation? I don't know. 16 Nobel laureates and or pretty much all the Nobel laureates and economics and former Vice President Kamala Harris during her debate with Trump. Like literally predicted exactly where we would be right now. Huh? Well, when you follow. the data. Wow. Here, play this clip. What Goldman Sachs has said is that Donald Trump's plan would make the economy worse. Mine would strengthen the economy. What the Wharton School has said is

Donald Trump's plan would actually explode the deficit. 16 Nobel laureates have described his economic plan as something that would increase inflation and by the middle of next year would invite a recession. You just have to look at where we are and where we stand on the issues. And I'd invite you to know that Donald Trump actually has no plan for you because he is more interested in defending himself

than he isn't looking out for you. And now Donald Trump says, we're not going to, he goes the real numbers. This is what he said the other day. The real numbers, they're coming 2027. So that's when he says things will start looking really good. 2027. Then you had Howard Lutnik moving the goalpost. He was on CNBC earlier in the morning. And he said, it's going to happen in 2026. We're going to see an explosion of growth. Here, play this

clip. So now everybody knows their tariff. Right. So now you're going to see factories built in America at a scale that you have never seen before. Okay, 10, more than 10 trillion dollars of factory build coming. All right? And so there's huge amount of construction jobs. So I would say the first quarter of next year will be the best quarter of construction jobs this country's ever seen. And that's going to roll all the way through 26. So I think you're going to see GDP growth next year over 4%. You do. Four percent. Ten trillion over what period of time, Secretary? Mr. Donald J. Trump, the President of the United States during his term. They're just making stuff up. Donald Trump says he brought in seven.

$17 trillion. If you brought in $17 trillion, why did you need to increase the debt ceiling by $5 trillion? Why are we right now confronting another government shutdown? If you brought in $17 trillion, everything should be great. Let's bring in the ranking member of the Budget Committee, Democratic Congress member Brendan Boyle. Congress member Boyle, obviously bad economic data seems to be coming out every single day now. What seems to be even worse, though, is that the regime isn't acknowledging what's happening and they're just lying about the numbers and saying, we're in a golden age and this is great when that's not a way to address the problem by pretending it doesn't exist. What do you make of it? Yeah, well, first, let me commend you.

That was a great imitation of Howard Nudnik. Boy, the moment that guy opens his mouth, You know not to trust anything he says. So in many ways, he's the perfect spokesperson for Donald Trump. You know, former Vice President Kamala Harris in that clip you showed of the debate last year, she was exactly right. She said recession by the middle of next year, which is now. Sure enough, what we're seeing, it's incredible how many job losses we are seeing far more than we fought. and at the same time, costs are going up, not down.

That is stagflation. That's what happened in the late 1970s. When inflation was going up, at the same time, joblessness was also going up. And once that starts, it's actually very difficult to reverse the trend. So all of the data is pointing in the same direction. President Trump's response will probably be to fire yet another person that the Department of Labor fire the folks who are keeping the accurate stats in order to cook the books. But the reality is most people, when they go to grocery stores, when they do

their shopping, when they're on Amazon, or in Target or any of the more commonly shopped at stores, they see with their own eyes that costs are going up. And it is specifically because of the policies of Donald Trump. Let's not forget, we were close to the tariff. target 2% low inflation in the early part of this year. Since then, though, we have seen inflation spike because of Donald Trump's economic policies. This is his economy, and he is driving us into a ditch. You know, in the House Budget Committee, you see the budget. You see the money coming in.

You know the money going out. It's literally the job of the Budget Committee and the power of the Per. is the power of Congress. Article 1, despite the fact that your Republican colleagues seem to not want to be a co-equal branch of government. So when Donald Trump is out there, though, and saying that he's brought in currently $17 trillion, that's what he says right now, and that he's ready to invest the $17 trillion right now and pour it into the economy. me yet. Your colleagues have to increase the debt ceiling by $5 trillion. Why would you need to increase the debt ceiling by $5 trillion? If someone's brought in more than 3.2 X that amount,

you know, you do serious work, very serious work. And your colleagues on the Republican side are supposed to be doing serious work. So why is this behavior like some, and I wouldn't even want to offend middle school students involved in, like, mock government debates. But like, why are they cosplaying fake numbers of $17 trillion when it's not even one trillion? It's, it's nothing, none of that's happened. It's just, it's all a lie. Look, Donald Trump lies as easily as you and I breathe. It's such a spectacular lie, though, 17 trillion, just to give people an idea because I know sometimes, you know, these numbers float around and it's, they're so mind-bogglingly large. It's sometimes hard for people who don't do this day in and day out to keep track.

So $17 trillion is approximately the size of the entire US GDP. So it would be, you know, roughly three times the size of the entire federal budget, everything we spend on per year. So the idea that suddenly there was this surge of $17 trillion is not just a lie or an exaggeration. It is so laughably false. But the reality is Donald Trump knows he won't be called on it by Republican members of Congress because they're so afraid of him, because they are petrified of one tweet from Donald Trump causing them to lose a primary.

That's why he's able to get away with it. That's why under Republican control, the House of Representatives has ceased to be a co-equal branch of government. It is absolutely remarkable, with maybe only one or two exceptions, the way every single House Republican and most Senate Republicans fall in line like robots. They care more about pleasing the toddler in the Oval Office than they care about actually bringing costs down for the American people. where once again on the precipice of a government shutdown, Republicans have not put forward cogent numbers. They've not put forward, they've not gone through the normal process in a diligent manner. I think they're more focused on their January 6th subcommittee or covering up the Epstein files for Donald Trump. And here we are again, just based on their sheer

incompetence and their refusal to even negotiate or have conversations with Democrats on the edge of a budget shutdown. So where are we right now? What's the game plan? And how are we here after a disastrous budget bill passed? Like how do we even get? Why with them does it always seem like we get here every six months? And it's like, oh, here we go again.

We're on the verge of Armageddon. It seems like every six months, you and I have this, Jeff. It seems like it because we do. It is every six months under a Republican control that we're facing a government shutdown. And let's just be clear. Republicans control the House. Republicans control the Senate. Republicans control the White House.

If there is a government shutdown, it is because Republicans want a government shutdown. And all the evidence so far is that they want a government shutdown. We are just, as you pointed out, only two to three weeks before government funding runs out. and before we would be in a shutdown situation. And Republicans have yet to even sit down and negotiate with Democrats. So I judge people by their behavior. I think it's pretty obvious they want a government shutdown. And I'm fully telling my staff and anyone who will listen to be prepared for this

because actually there's a lot of work ironically you have to do to prepare for a government shutdown. on it's pretty costly for the American people, huge inconveniences. So we're already just internally prepping to do the work we'll need to do over the next couple weeks in order to properly prepare our own constituents back home. When's the day again, remind our viewers? Yeah, so midnight, September 30th is when government funding runs out.

The fiscal year, I don't know why in the world this ended up being the case because no other business or country I know has the kind of a fiscal year we do, but for whatever reason going way back, our fiscal year begins on October 1st and goes through the following September 30th. So we're under a continuing resolution right now. It expires at midnight on September 30th going into October 1st. I mean, do you think that this is their just incompetence that rears its head, someone like Mag and Mike Johnson and his crew spending all the time at what they call club Rosegarded now and partying with

Trump and doing all of that, that their eye is not on the ball, or you think it's actually they are pushing for chaos. They think that they could be blaming Democrats. They know where the economy is headed right now under Trump. So they're looking for a scapegoat. And they actually want to tank. They know the economy is tanking. So now they were. want the scapegoat and Trump saying, look, just shut it down, that I'm going to say, look, I was going to, we were in a golden age. I reduced inflation, but then the Democrats shut it down and now they screwed me. It's their fault. Is it, you think it's a setup? You know, so first, I don't know. This is speculation. It's not like they've let me in on

what their strategy is. If they have one, that's the other thing. Because right now they have some fissures on their side, where there are members, you know, the two dozen or so who are the most vulnerable next year are pushing to try to claw back the devastating health care cuts they just literally voted for. Yet at the same time, they have some hardline conservatives who were saying no. So it might be that they recognized there's going to be no way internally to deal with that. And so Mike Johnson just wants to sit on his hands and punt. That could be the situation, or it could just be as simple as you described, that Donald Trump knows that this economy is heavily moving in the wrong direction. He also knows, by his own

admission, and has undertaken a rebrand of what he used to call the big beautiful bill, it is so deeply unpopular with the American people by about a two to one margin that he's actually doing a rebrand that's going about as well as Cracker Barrel's rebrand when and trying to come up with a different name, and here I am an elected official, do this for a living. I can't even remember the name of the new name they came up with with their bill. That's how poorly it's catching on. So it would make sense if they want to distract people from the fact that the economy is declining and that they just passed the most unpopular major piece of legislation of our lifetime, one that according to the Congressional Budget Office

will cause 15 million people to lose their health care and health care costs for tens of millions more to go up. Before we go, you have access to more information than any of us have here. Is there any other things that you're seeing that you think deserves more attention than it's getting right now that you want to bring to the attention of our viewers, whether it's regarding the budget or otherwise? I have to say, I mean, the inflation spike is deeply worrying, especially because this may not be the peak of it.

It actually could just be the very beginning of inflation going up dramatically. When again, we were so close toward the end of last year and beginning of this year to finally taming it. Obviously, the initial cause of this was the post-pandemic era when inflation spiked all around the world. We had finally gotten that back all the way, almost all the way to normal, only for Donald Trump to take over and actually ruin the situation. Another thing I would point out to people, which I think is getting lost a little bit when we talk about the 15 million people who are going to lose their health care, the Obama subsidies, they go. away effective October 1st. So while everyone's focusing on the Medicaid cuts, which it's important to focus on them, they take effect next December. So we have a year in a couple months.

Meanwhile, right now in a few weeks staring us in the face is the biggest cut to Obamacare in American history. And that will be followed three months later come January 1 by devastating cuts to Medicare. So there was a lot of conversation about Medicaid, again, appropriately so. But actually, we have these huge cuts to Obamacare and huge cuts to Medicare coming first. One of them in a few weeks, the other in a few months. So I'm trying to remind people, even in the middle of all of this talk about whether or not the government will stay open, we are facing a major health care crisis in the United States. We need to address that Republicans who caused it are absolutely adamantly opposed to it.

Congressman Brendan Boyle, thanks for joining us, as always. All right. Thank you. And everybody, hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million subscribers. Want to stay plugged in? Become a subscriber to our substack at Midasplus.com. You'll get daily recaps from Ron Filipkowski, add free episodes of our podcast, and more exclusive content only available at Midasplus.com.