The MeidasTouch Podcast - Congressman Seth Moulton Reacts to Trump’s Disaster G7 Appearance

Episode Date: June 17, 2025

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump lasting less than 12 hours at the G7 Summit and running away from the summit like a coward before President Zelenskyy showed up on Tuesday and Meiselas interviews Democratic Congressman Seth Moulton about his reaction to this and his reaction to Trump’s disastrous dictator parade. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I go back to a June 8th, 2025 post to President Zelensky of Ukraine and how important this G7 meeting was to Ukraine and to our allies. On June 8th, President Zelensky posted, in the coming weeks, important meetings and negotiations will take place in Ukraine. And we're doing everything to ensure that the June summits, the G7 summit in Canada and the NATO summit in the Netherlands are not hollow. Russia only truly understands one language, the language of force. That is precisely the language that must become the working one across all formats of international engagement in the coming months. And then, of

course, on Monday, Donald Trump left the G7 after being in Alberta for about 12 hours, not to meet with President Zelenskyy on Tuesday. Then throughout Donald Trump's brief time in Alberta, he kept on basically acting as like Putin's agent. And he talked about how the G7 should really be called the G8, remember this, let's play it. Together very well. I look forward to that.

The G7 used to be the G8. Barack Obama and a person named Trudeau didn't want to have Russia in, and I would say that that was a mistake because I think you wouldn't have a war right now if you had Russia in, and you wouldn't have a war right now if Trump were president four years ago. It didn't work out that way, but it used to be the G8 and now it's, I guess, what's that, nine years ago, eight years ago, it switched over. They threw Russia out, which I claimed was a very big mistake, Then he says that Putin speaks to me and nobody else he bragged about how Putin speaks to him and praised Putin as the very first thing he did when he showed up in Alberta here play this Well, it's not a bad idea I don't mind that if somebody wants to suggest China coming in

I think we suggest but you want to have people that you can talk to, you know, they, they don't talk to Putin speaks to me. He doesn't speak to anybody else. He doesn't want to talk because he was very insulted when he got thrown out of the GA as I would be, as you would be, as anybody would be. He was very insulted. And I mean, he was thrown out by true dough who convinced one or two people along with Obama.

And then here's the moment where he says that he's leaving and it kind of reminds me of like, like, like, like a little boy like a sleepover and the other kids are like don't want to hang out with him. And so he comes up with an excuse why he had to call mommy and daddy and leave. But anyway, how weird is this when he leaves here? Play this clip. But you probably see what I see and have to be back as soon as I can and have dinner with these wonderful leaders. And then I get on the plane and I have to be back early.

I loved it. I tell you, I loved it. Let's bring a Democratic congressmember, Seth Moulton. I mean, whether he was going back to meet with the National Security Council regarding Iran, but Congressman, he's with all of our top allies there who are trying to coordinate a strategy at the G7 for de-escalation and trying to work together. It just seems very uncomfortable with them. He's now going to miss the meeting with Zelensky. What are you making of this all?

I mean, it's typical Trump. He is uncomfortable with our allies. He doesn't like our allies. And obviously, the feeling is mutual. But this is a guy who has spent his career siding with Putin. He sounded like a Putin puppet, a Kremlin spokesman, in those statements that you played earlier. And it's kind of amazing that Trump just genuinely seems to enjoy spending

time with dictators more than spending time with our allies in Europe and around the world. You know, he posted right before that disastrous dictator parade that he had this great call with Putin. He's like, Putin called me. He wished me a happy birthday. He was talking about Iran, that he knows so much about Iran, like bragging about this conversation. Then shortly after, Zelensky posts, today the Russians launched a stone cold combined

attack on our energy infrastructure. This is a spit in the face to everything the international community is trying to do to stop the war. And it happened right after Putin's conversation with Trump, after the Americans asked us not to strike Russian energy facilities. At the same time, as Putin tries to portray himself as a mediator for the Middle East, and attempts to somehow assist his accomplices in Tehran. The level of cynicism is staggering here. And again, it does seem though that with Zelensky, you just put this together. Donald Trump shows up in Alberta,

serves as the agent of Putin, says all of those things that we hear. Tomorrow or today, Zelensky is supposed to show up on Tuesday. And then before that, Donald Trump jets. He makes all of these incredibly irresponsible posts. What does it even mean? Everybody in Tehran, a city of 9 million people, leave right now, exclamation point, leave right now.

Without a plan, what are we doing? How is this gonna, are our troops, no one knows what's going on. I mean, I think that's problematic. No, I mean, you know, we know that Trump conducts foreign policy by social media, which is not a good practice. It doesn't usually go that well. It doesn't serve our allies well. It doesn't send a clear message to our enemies. But if there's one thing that you can predict about Donald Trump, I mean, we know he's unpredictable, right?

And his friends will say, oh, this is one of his strengths, you know, they never know what he's going to do. Well, if there's one thing that is predictable, it's that he's going to support Vladimir Putin. It's unbelievable how many different things, situations he's been in, terrible things Putin has done, and Trump is always there backing him up. That's the one predictable thing here. He's the commander inin-chief the United States. I mean if a general officer under him were to say these things, he would immediately be labeled a traitor. That's what we call

people who aid and abet our enemies, traitors. And yet the commander-in-chief just keeps on doing it. You're a veteran. You served in the Marines, multiple tours of duty in Iraq. So I got to ask you about what you thought about that disastrous dictator parade. And, you know, one of the things that I talked about on our show last night is, I think it also just made the troops look bad. I mean, I thought it was disorganized. It was low energy.

I personally do not support Trump co-opting the 250th anniversary of the Army and doing dictator parades through the center of Washington, D.C. But also it was just so poorly exit. Like it just looked bad. It was bad to watch. And now I think people have certain perspectives on what they what they observed. What's your overall view? Yes, it makes it makes everyone look bad. And it turns out that the US Army is not great at doing Soviet style, North Korean style parades.

Cause that's not what people sign up to do. That's not what they're trained to do. And it's not what they want to do. This is an important point that I think is often lost on people who haven't served, is the military hates parades. That's why the Army didn't want to do this. It's why Trump's first chief of staff, Marine General John Kelly, shut him down when he suggested this in his first term. So it's bad for the troops. It's bad for the country. It's a bad look for a democracy.

And it also, by the way, costs a lot of money. I mean, upwards of $40 million. Imagine how much veteran housing you could buy for $40 million. You could help a lot of vets with that kind of money. And this parade helped nobody. Talk to us about that, because I haven't heard the analysis about the military hates parades. They certainly looked like they hated being there.

That was for sure. And we did a video on that. Talk to us about the culture inside the military, about why just even asking them to do a parade like that, if you had the most basic understanding of military culture, you would know in the United States, you would know that that ask would have this result. Yeah, it's like the worst thing you get asked to do. It's the thing you dread in basic training is have to march around and get screamed at when you're out of line, you're a little out

of step or whatever. I mean, this is the hell they put you through in basic training and you go through it because you don't want to have to do it again. You get out of that, right? That's the whole point. And so no one in the United States military signs up to be marching around. You sign up to serve your country. You sign up to go overseas. You sign up to, to make sure that other people don't have to fight in your place.

There are a lot of different reasons people join. Marching in parades ain't one of them. And by the way, another reason you don't join the military is to go fight fellow Americans on the streets of Los Angeles. Talk to us about that, because obviously we see the National Guard being federalized, you as a former member of the Marines, a veteran serving the way you did in Iraq, I'm sure you know even the division that's there and what must be going through their minds being sent to LA

as Donald Trump uses the language of an invader, of invasion. And then Donald Trump has like the Putin's, you saw his post where he goes, we're gonna expand basically this war against all democratic cities. And he goes, because they are turning everybody trans, like everybody's becoming trans.

So we need to stop that. And I'm, and I'm reading this thing. I mean, turning everybody trans in rescinding Marines to stop everybody becoming trans. What the hell am I reading? I mean, you're tempted to laugh, but it is actually deadly serious because he is undermining our democracy by politicizing the military. You know, if one leader, one political party controls the military, then you don't have a fair and equal democracy anymore.

Now what do the Marines think about this? Well, I have heard that a lot of officers are considering resigning their commissions because they question whether this is constitutional constitutional whether they are violating their oath To protect and defend the Constitution not the president the Constitution by carrying out these orders These are active discussions going on among marine officers today, and it's not even the first time I mean I had for all my time in Iraq, in a war that I disagreed with, led by a president I voted against twice,

I never questioned the lawfulness of orders we received. I didn't hear of that going on. And yet in Trump's first term even, I heard from a lot of junior officers who were asking that question. They've had their Resignation letters already written much like General Mattis did when he served as Secretary of Defense Knowing that President Trump was likely to do something or ask them to do something unlawful

So this is a this is a dangerous time for our country, but I do have Confidence in the Marines at least you least as much as you can have a confidence in any military unit to do their very best to uphold the law. So what do you say to those military officers right now who are being ordered to patrol American cities as Donald Trump uses the language of invasion and conquest against American cities, and these are Marines that you've heard from or you know, who are considering resigning as officers.

How do they, if they're watching this, how do they think about it? How do you balance that? How do you work through that, given that if you're in that position? I just have three words. Remember your oath. Remember your oath. That's what these officers, these Marines need to think about every single day. Trump doesn't care about his oath to the Constitution one bit. He's proven that over and over again. But these Marines have their honor, their integrity, and our country to remember when they're put in these situations. So, I mean, it'll be difficult.

But another question I frequently get these days from younger people, including people who haven't signed up for the military yet, but are considering it, is can I do this? Should I serve under this commander in chief? And my answer is always, actually, this is the most important time to have smart, honorable, courageous young Americans serve our country because you might have to have the honor and courage

to actually disobey an unlawful order, which is not an easy thing to do. It's not easy for anyone to do in those shoes. It's horrifying, shocking that we're here having these conversations, although I do think the contrast in seeing the peaceful protests, those no-kings protests, I believe really showed the very best of America, seeing in cities people showing joy and love and seeing diversity, you know, and just seeing, it was almost 3% of the population out there,

which is a big number for mass mobilizations. Before we go, I'd love to get your take on the no-kings protests. Yeah, I mean, a hell of a lot more people than showed up for Trump's birthday parade, that's for sure. And I was proud to speak at a couple of parades up in my corner of the world and in both places, you know, Beverly, Lynn, Massachusetts, two small cities on the North Shore. I was just so impressed by the crowds. You know, actually really Swampskate, I was kind of a Swampskate Lynn thing, a small town on the shore and about a thousand people showed up.

A huge percentage just of the people who live in that town came out to just say, you know, we remember that we're Americans. We're Americans. We're Americans. We believe in democracy. We don't support gangs. Congress member Seth Moulton, thanks for joining us. Great to see you. Everybody hit subscribe.

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