The MeidasTouch Podcast - Democratic Whip Katherine Clark Addresses GOP Disasters
Episode Date: September 11, 2025MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on MAGA Mike Johnson folding under pressure as his cover up attempt for Donald Trump just failed and Meiselas speaks with Democratic Whip Katherine Clark about MA...GA Mike’s failures and the looming government shutdown. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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We are 20 days from a government shutdown based on the MAGA Republicans complete incompetence.
Their handling of the budget and Maga Mike Johnson darting out of a press conference when questions about Jeffrey Epstein were being asked.
You'll hear a reporter say, you want to take an Epstein question?
He got out of there awfully quickly.
Here, play this clip.
You're going to accept the January 6th, none of you?
You want to take the rest of the question?
Yeah.
Yeah, I'll just get up with that.
I run, Maga Mike, run.
And then you have Speaker Johnson, Maga Mike,
doesn't think that that birthday card
that's clearly sent by Donald Trump to Jeffrey Epstein,
which has Donald Trump's signature,
it looks like all of his other signatures.
It's his signature.
We don't even need to be, it's not a debate.
He sent the thing to Epstein.
But here's Maga Mike doing what the regime tells him to do,
saying, I don't see it.
I don't think so.
Here, play this.
Mr. Speaker, do you think the Trump birthday now to Epstein is real?
I don't. They say it's not.
I don't. He says Donald Trump told me. It's not. So why would I even ask a question?
I don't. And by the way, it's, it's all of them at this point, like Byron Donald's and
all of you. Watch this, this brief montage of all of them saying the same thing, basically.
Let's play it. I mean, anybody can do a signature.
You didn't really someone might just forge this somehow and say?
Yeah, I mean, somehow it's so easy to do. For what I see, it's not a signature. I've seen Donald
I'm saying a million things.
This doesn't look like his signature to you?
Nope.
I highly doubt that it is.
I mean, how could someone could afford this?
Well, are we talking about, are we talking about the birthday card?
The letter, the Trump apparently.
Oh, you know, I would, you know, that's new for me.
I've not seen that.
We'll let other people decide whether it's real or not.
What does that even mean?
That's new to me.
You were the one who brought up the birthday card.
That's new.
That's new to me.
I didn't see it.
You said, you said, what were you thinking they were talking?
about when they were talking about forgery and birthday card as much again it's the most ridiculous stuff
oh and then you have james comer big mad the new ranking member of the house oversight committee
congress member robert garcia pushing forward and getting all that stuff because remember it wasn't
just the birthday card in that book for epstein's 50th birthday in 2003 there was a bunch of other
documents in there sick disgusting documents of like epstein and trump friends holding
checks talking about Trump paying 22,000 for a fully depreciated woman. There's like women talking
about meeting Prince Andrew and Donald Trump, thanks to Jeffrey Epps. There's some grotesque stuff
and that. But MAGRA Republicans are pissed that Democrats are fighting back. Listen to Comer here.
Let's play it.
Chairman Comer, can you give us a comment about the Epstein documents being released and what else
is under review right now? Well, the Epstein documents are released because I subpoenaed the estate
for the documents. That's why we have the document. So I know the media has been obsessed with the
discharge petition. The discharge petition didn't even cover the estate. This is a serious
investigation, just like I said it would be. We're going to be transparent. I think we got the
documents uploaded last night on the computer. It takes, you know, a few hours. Obviously, when they
send out, when I subpoena documents, they send them to the Republicans and the Democrats.
Of course, you know, the Democrats, they, they find one thing in there and they promote it and try to get a narrative.
This investigation is about providing justice and accountability for the victims.
And the Democrats, you know, it's really disappointing to see how they back it.
I mean, Garcia, he's been on the job for about two weeks.
He's proven to me to just be a real big drama queen because this is all about providing transparency of the American people.
and justice for the victims. It's not about scoring political points. So hopefully he'll mature up
and get serious about the investigation. We've got a lot more documents we expect to get in.
We're going to bring a lot of people in for deposition. So I mean, that was the guy for three years
holding up nudies of Hunter Biden in the hearing. And then he's calling Robert Garcia a drama queen
to which Congress member Garcia is like, are you just saying that because I'm gay? Like, what,
what a drama what are you talking about like we got the book because democrats pushed for it you
didn't want that to be released we push forward we released it and then you're like oh they're cherry
picking it and all of these things are absolutely ridiculous let's bring in democratic congresswoman
katherine clark the democratic whip and a big deal coming uh in the very near future 20 days of course
is that if a budget doesn't pass we're in a government shutdown so i want to talk about
that but i think showing those epstein clips though uh show that we're not dealing with you're not
dealing with like serious people who are in in the world of reality like i don't even know what
that was so let's address first like what they've been saying just get your reaction to that
but i just want to talk about it's in everything they exist in this maga club rose garden world
I mean, I don't know where to begin.
I mean, how can you look at these documents that came out in this Epstein birthday book that are disgusting?
They are vile and there are multiple ones and just say, oh, that's some sort of democratic hoax.
They have one master and that is Donald Trump.
And they are willing to throw the American people to throw just a, just,
investigations, transparency. They will do nothing but raise costs on Americans. And he says jump
and they just say, how high. And it just makes them not only look absurd, but they are just
barreling towards disaster for people at home who are unable to make it in this economy
that Donald Trump and his, you know, devotees have created for them.
It's a co-equal branch of government.
And our founders, constitutional framers, believed that even out of self-interest,
the other branches would want to defend its turf to push back and being a congressperson's
like a big deal.
I mean, Maga Mike's the Speaker of the House, but he's.
He may as well be, you know, Donald Trump's golf caddy, you know, from, you know, as a summer
job based on the way it's just so strange to me that people with important positions to
protect the people have been so willing to give it away because of Donald Trump in the
White House behaving in such a bizarre and erratic fashion that that, like, I'm just trying to
even understand how that works.
Like, how does that appeal to them when you know tariffs are attacks on Americans and they go,
oh, it's not.
It's like, yes, it is.
That's his signature.
Tariffs are attacks on Americans.
You're taking away health care.
How do you work with delusional colleagues, I guess is my question.
And how do you maneuver people who are so maggot up that you can't do deals with these people?
Yeah.
I mean, how do you do deals with people who, one, won't come to the table.
When they do come to the table, they then go ahead.
and undermine and go back on everything they said,
even if it makes it through Congress,
they stand by a president who shreds everything they just did,
whether it's projects, economic development,
keeping hospitals open in their own districts.
They, you know, they just will do anything that he wants.
And the point we're making 20 days out from,
from a shutdown, which is 100% their responsibility.
They have the majority in the House,
the Senate, and Trump is president.
So it is up to them to fund the government
and keep it open and working for people.
And what are they doing instead?
They are taking away people's healthcare.
So whether it is the half a trillion dollars
in Medicare that this bill will trigger,
and cuts, the cuts they've already done to Medicaid, the 300 rural hospitals that are going
to close, and every single day, we are already seeing hospitals close in states due to the
big, ugly law. This is coming true for people right now. I had farmers in my office this
morning, who we're talking about not only what is happening to them with the tariffs and how
bankruptcies for farmers are up 95%, but that they have no place to go to get health care.
So they want to go ahead with this agenda, taking away the fundamental, you know, the fundamental
need of American people that when they are sick and they need to see a doctor, they should be able
to do that and be able to do it close to their home, they can do that on their own.
We are not going to rubber stamp this extremist agenda.
So for our audience to know, the position of Democratic whip is whipping up the votes
and coordinated and organizing unified positions amongst the party in terms of a vote
and making sure the people show up to vote, it's a lot more common.
complicated than that, but at a high level, it's a big, important job. So when it comes to this
government shutdown that is looming, can you articulate for our audience the Democratic
position because people, I know our audience says, do not support this MAGA desecration of our
health care, shut it down. And our audience was very upset at what happened in the Senate
before when that happened.
So what do you say to our audience right now?
That Democrats in the House are crystal clear.
We are not supporting a budget that decimates health care for Americans.
That's where we are.
And if they want to go ahead and do a spending plan to pass a budget that continues to make
these cuts, and just this week, they're talking about more cuts.
to mental health, to our public health infrastructure.
They are not stopping.
They are doubling down.
They want to do that.
They can do it without a single Democratic vote.
In other words, we're willing to shut it down, right?
Shetting it down is up to them.
We're telling them we're not voting for a budget that doesn't make sure that people can access health care.
The fact that they are barreling.
and notices are starting to go out.
They've gone out in my home state of Massachusetts
telling people the premium increases they are going to experience
because they are refusing to renew tax credits and support for the ACA
so that people can afford to get health care.
So they are looking at increased premiums,
taking away the help that they rely on and need to get health care.
and these guys are running around saying, well, we don't care about that.
We care about one thing.
And that's tax cuts for our billionaire friends.
And at the same time, utterly denying that Donald Trump had anything to do with his billionaire friend Jeffrey Epstein.
I mean, you cannot make this up.
So we're going to stay focused where we are.
And that is, you cannot get away with doing these health care cuts at historic levels without a fight from House Democrats.
I just have one procedural question because I think maybe the audience, I think if I'm confused, the audience probably shares the community.
So there's a, there's the budget bill they called the big, beautiful, blah, blah, it was a disastrous budget bill that passed.
Before that, there were all of these CRs that I would talk about, like a continuing.
doing resolution. Then they do the disastrous budget bill. How come then there's like another
budget that needs to be passed? Like what's the, why do we even come close to a shutdown when
they forced this other one through just in terms of the like the procedure of it all?
Yeah, the procedure is very difficult and complex. But in the simplest terms, our fiscal year
in the federal government ends on October 1st. So every year we have to have a budget.
it in place. And in the last two years of Republican control, seven times they have brought us to
this place. And Democrats have had to come in and say, we're going to, you know, try to come together,
find some common ground. We're still at that place, but we are clearly telling our Republican
colleagues and the president that they cannot count on a single Democratic vote if they are
going to rip health care away.
Fifteen million people are going to lose their health care in this country.
And premiums for 20 million people alone, just under the ACA, are going to soar probably
out of reach for most people who need it.
And we cannot just sit by and rubber stamp their agenda.
They want to hold the American people hostage by saying, well, if you don't go along with
our agenda of taking health care away, we're going to be in a shutdown and those are painful.
You just can't negotiate with these people anymore. And so we are very clear. You want to come and
talk to us about how we can make health care accessible and affordable to the American people.
We are here to listen. We are ready to go negotiate with that. If you want to proceed doing whatever
it is you want, imposing illegal tariffs, taking away Medicaid and Medicare and veterans' health
programs, children's insurance, food from hungry people. We're out. We're out. You cannot rely on
our votes. We will not help you succeed in that kind of harm to American families. Democratic whip.
Catherine Clark, thanks for joining us, as always. Thank you. Everybody hit subscribe. Let's get
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