The MeidasTouch Podcast - DESPERATE Trump LOSES Key Motion IN THE MIDDLE of DISQUALIFICATION Case

Episode Date: November 2, 2023

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump’s attempt to get the constitutional disqualification case against him in Colorado thrown out in the middle of trial.  Upgrade your sleep with Miracle Made! Go to https://TryMiracle.com/MEIDAS and use the code MEIDAS to claim your FREE 3 PIECE TOWEL SET and SAVE over 40% OFF. Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The plaintiffs, the petitioners seeking to disqualify Donald Trump, rested their case. Some of their high profile witnesses include Congress member Eric Swalwell, who was there the day of the insurrection and was able to testify about what he observed. Also, the petitioners put on a number of experts who both talked about the text of the United States Constitution, how the 14th Amendment Section 3 does not only apply to the Civil War, but was intended to be forward-looking to imply to future insurrectionists and those who aid and abet insurrection. Then there was another expert and historian who testified for the petitioners that indeed January 6th qualified as an insurrection

and Donald Trump as someone who aided and abetted the insurrection. Then Donald Trump and his lawyers moved for what's called a directed verdict. They try to get the case dismissed in its entirety. In a directed verdict, you tell the judge that the petitioners have now rested and that they did not carry their burden. And the judge, Judge Sarah Wallace, ruled that the petitioners did in fact carry their burden. So then the burden shifts and now the defense has to put on

their case. In this case, the respondents have to then put on their case and argue that, well, they're going to try to argue that the 14th Amendment Section 3 does not apply to Donald Trump, that there are things called the political doctrine, which political question doctrine, which basically states that this should be non-justiciable, that the 14th Amendment Section 3 is not self-enforcing, and that the judge doesn't have the ability to do it without the authorization of Congress. So they'll make those legal arguments with their experts and their witnesses. Interestingly, they called Kash Patel to testify, who was the former National Security Council senior director. He was inextricably

involved in all things that were happening before and after the insurrection. He was inextricably involved in all things that were happening before and after the insurrection. He was also an individual who was listed as one of the kind of custodians of records for the classified documents that Donald Trump took and kept at Mar-a-Lago. So Kash Patel is going to be a critical witness as well in special counsel Jack Smith's prosecution of Donald Trump in the Southern District of Florida case for the willful retention of national defense information. Now, Kash Patel basically regurgitated this, you know, I think propaganda that he believed that, well, he testified that Donald Trump wanted 10,000 National Guardsmen to be present on January 6th and that that was stopped somehow by the deep state or it was stopped by other forces. And, you know, that's completely false.

And how do we know that the acting Secretary of Defense at the time or the Secretary of Defense at the time, or the Secretary of Defense at the time, who testified about this, Chris Miller, testified that no, there was never a request made for 10,000 National Guardsmen was in relation to this idea of donald trump's mind like mussolini or like napoleon or like an authoritarian or dictator in the past to use the national guard in trump's own mind as part of a procession as Trump would march to the Capitol building when he was believing that the members of Congress were going to get rid of Mike Pence and then declare Donald Trump the emperor and that the National Guardsman would be part of this procession with Donald Trump. And we know that from reading the January 6th committee's report and a number of people who reported that that's what Donald Trump had told them about.

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not just say okay Ben you know that's great that you're telling that to me can you please play the tape on what uh the Secretary of Defense actually testified to well here it is right here here's the audio recording play the clip it's going to be clear here that since then, in February of 2021, Mark Meadows said on Fox News that, quote, even in January, that was a given. As many as 10,000 National Guard troops were told to be on the ready by the Secretary of Defense. Is there any accuracy to that statement? Not from my perspective. I was never given any direction or order or due of any plans of that nature. So I was surprised by seeing that publicly. But I don't know the context or, you know, where it was.

No, there was no, we obviously had plans for activating more folks, but that was not anything more than contingency planning. There was no official message traffic or anything of that nature. Just so we're clear, you did not have 10,000 troops to be on the ready for January 6th, prior to January 6th? A non-military person probably could have some sort of weird interpretation, but no, to answer your question, that was not part of my plan or the Department of Defense's plan. And just the rest of his statement was, quote, that was a direct order from President Trump,

and yet here is what we see, all kinds of blame going around, but not a whole lot of accountability. And to be crystal clear, there was no direct order from President Trump to put 10,000 troops to be on the ready for January 6th. Correct? Yeah, that's correct. There was no direct, there was no order from the president. So, look, Kash Patel doesn't have a great deal of credibility. So next up, we'll see who Donald Trump calls as a witness in that case. But Donald Trump is not intending on testifying. We know that the judge has already rejected the directed verdict request. And it is possible that this week, even, or next week, there could be a verdict where the judge makes a ruling disqualifying Donald Trump. I mean, that's here. And by the way, these 14th Amendment Section 3 cases are heating up across the country and the cases are moving

forward in states like michigan as well and there donald trump filed a lawsuit this week to try to block the efforts or the ability of the secretary of state in michigan Jocelyn Benson, from disqualifying him. And so a petition was filed already back in September to disqualify Donald Trump. That proceeding is moving forward. And then in the meantime, Donald Trump filed his own lawsuit requesting injunctive relief to block the Secretary of State from removing Donald Trump. And just so you get a sense of what Donald Trump's lawyers are arguing, quote, an insurrection, that's an attempt to take over the government. I've never seen a government taken over without guns.

There was not an attempt to overthrow the government. No one took anyone hostage. No one had firearms, rifles, or anything along these lines. This was a riot. So they think that that is going to be a helpful line of argumentation. And they also argue in their lawsuit, quote, Secretary Jocelyn Benson's failure to respond to a letter asking whether or not Trump will be on the ballot is creating uncertainty, which impacts how Donald Trump will allocate resources. This uncertainty is compounded by the fact that Secretary Benson is an active member of the opposing major political party and has publicly weighed in

with her negative views of Donald Trump and they continually refer to him as President Trump even though he's not. So there are your updates. Donald Trump's directed verdict motion denied, motion to dismiss denied. Case is gonna proceed to verdict. The judge will reach an order. That may be a disqualification order,

a verdict coming this week. At the same time, Donald Trump filing that lawsuit in Michigan to try to block the Secretary of State there, Jocelyn Benson, from removing him. We'll keep you posted on all of these developments and more. Hit subscribe. We're on our way to 2 million subscribers thanks to your support. Check us out at patreon.com slash MidasTouch and have a great day. Hey, Midas Mighty.

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