The MeidasTouch Podcast - DOJ opens the Floodgates for Trump’s Worst Nightmare

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Starting point is 00:02:10 Sorry, guys. Lauren Bobert wants us to refer to Republicans as ultra MAGA madness and incompetence compared with the Democratic Party's intelligent, compassionate approach could not be more clear. This is the Democratic Party messaging I've been waiting for, and it is beautiful to see. So then we go from the ultra MAGA madness on the House floor to ultra MAGA madness at CPAC, right? CPAC, which in addition to promoting that it is an organization of domestic terrorists, right? That's what they call themselves. They have a banner that says, we are domestic terrorists. Now stands for cult pack. That's the C and C pack, the cult pack of Donald Trump. This once conservative organization, I think, well, and now looks like a parody of a parody,

Starting point is 00:03:15 kind of like an SNL skit of the movie Idiocracy. It's so bafflingly bizarre to see what takes place there. I don't really know what other words to use other than to show you what is actually happening. So we will do that here on this episode. And meanwhile, while that's going on, whatever the heck that is, President Biden is delivering for the American people, right? Based on Biden's policies, for example, the pharmaceutical company Eli Lilly has capped the price of insulin to $35 a month. And President Biden delivered an incredible speech talking about that and talking to the Democratic House caucus about issues that actually matter, jobs, working conditions, healthcare, education, unions, a woman's right to control her body, equality, freedom, fiscal responsibility. Like this is America. Like that speech is what America is all about, not this ultra MAGA weirdness. And yes, speaking about ultra MAGA weirdness,

Starting point is 00:04:27 as Biden is talking about solutions and the positive results of legislation that he spearheaded and signed into law, Donald Trump spent the week raging against Fox and Rupert Murdoch because of the new Dominion filing that was released where Murdoch and the Fox host confirmed in text messages. They tried to deny it under oath, but they couldn't because it was actually their text messages and contemporaneous emails where they said they knew that Trump was a liar. They knew that their viewers were effing lunatics, but they needed to platform it all for ratings. This is the Midas Touch Podcast. I'm Ben Micellis, joined by Brett and Jordy Micellis. How are you doing, brothers? It is good to be here, brothers. Always a pleasure to be here

Starting point is 00:05:20 with the Midas Mighty Man. Just watching the past few days it's just it's so I don't know there's part of it that is very satisfying to see these Republicans who are so excited to get power and then they start launching all these investigative hearings which are just huge wastes of money and are just based on total BS and then you see them go and you see them actually face off against intellectual heavyweights and you see them just fall flat on their face every single time. You just got to laugh sometimes. I mean, it's really difficult sometimes to watch all these clips and be like, I can't believe these people have power over our government.

Starting point is 00:05:58 But sometimes you just got to sit back and laugh and enjoy the show a little bit. But that's why I'm excited that the people who can do something about it, the Democrats in power right now have actually learned how to punch back. And part of me is like, did they learn how to punch back? Or is it just in contrast to how crazy and inept the other side is? Do they seem effective? But no, I think they actually learned how to punch back. I wish it didn't take total insanity of the Republican Party for them to learn how to do it. But man, is it a joy to watch the clapbacks, to watch some common sense be knocked back into these people. And oh boy, do we have a lot of good clips and a lot of good stuff to share with you today. Jordy, how are you doing, man? Looking good, liking the shirt?

Starting point is 00:06:41 Thanks. Yeah, new sweater. I'm part of the green team today. I love green. Green's my favorite color. It's cool, right? Yeah. It's good. I wasn't sure if it was like a robe or something like a bathroom. No, it's a sweater. No, it's a sweater. It looks comfy too. It looks quite nice. What's the design on the shirt? You know, I have no idea. A little risky actually, now that you say it. Are they dragons are they flowers are they literally anything i actually i should have looked into that a bit more prior to wearing it on the show i have you know what's great audio podcast content talking about talking about jordy lux you're right you can use descriptive words i you know what it looks like have you are you guys watching the last of us you know it's i mean like there's something called audio books where people describe scenes.

Starting point is 00:07:28 Jordy's supposed to then say, well, does this look like a marijuana leaf? Well, I will tell you. Now that you've brought it to my attention, have you guys been watching the show The Last of Us on HBO? That's what I was thinking, actually. I didn't want to be mean about it. No, it's all right. This looks like that fungus. I'm wearing a fungus sweatshirt. It's the fungus that grows and makes everybody zombies.

Starting point is 00:07:44 I'm really excited for tonight's show, guys. This is going to be a good one. Real quick, I saw someone when we were teasing the Lauren Bober clip that we're playing a little bit, when we said ultra mega, say we're ultra Midas, and that cracked me up. We might need to do some shirts with that one. We might need to make some ultra Midas t-shirts. That's actually freaking hilarious. Hattip to whoever said that. I missed who said it. Hats if to you, Jordy, for while juggling kind of me making fun of your shirt about being fungus. At the same time, you were watching almost like a quarterback. That's what I do. At the corner of your eye, you saw the comments.

Starting point is 00:08:17 You captured it. You captured it. Court vision. The D.C. Justice Department captured the correct legal argument in the brief that they filed today before the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, where they argued that Donald Trump should not have absolute immunity in connection with his conduct during the January 6th insurrection where Donald Trump incited violence. And this goes back to a case called Nixon versus Fitzgerald. The law goes back to this case. It's a 1982 case, which basically says that presidents, during the time they're in office, for conduct during the time they're in office, almost regardless of what occurs, they have absolute immunity, even if they engage in unlawful conduct.

Starting point is 00:09:09 And in the Fitzgerald Nixon case, Fitzgerald was a government employee, a whistleblower who alleged that he was wrongfully terminated and sued Nixon directly. And the court, the Supreme Court, found that Nixon had absolute immunity there and dismissed the case. And so one of the things the Department of Justice argued in this civil lawsuit that was brought by members of Congress, as well as Capitol Police officers who sued Donald Trump individually for his conduct on January 6th, is that the Department of Justice argued even within the outer contours of the constitutional prerogatives of a president, inciting violence has nothing to do with the roles and responsibilities of a president, and essentially shame on Donald Trump for even

Starting point is 00:09:59 trying to argue that that conduct falls within the outer contours of the presidency. You know, it was a difficult juggling act, truthfully, for the Department of Justice, right? Because one of their jobs is to kind of defend Article II powers of the presidency. But because Donald Trump engaged in unprecedented traitorous conduct, the Department of Justice really also, in an unprecedented unprecedented fashion had to take a position that presidential powers would be limited, which is not something typically you see the DOJ do in briefs. They're supposed to kind of do the opposite. But here they said, look, on this very

Starting point is 00:10:38 narrow issue as it relates to Trump's conduct on that day. It falls outside of even the most outer contours. And they said, this is a very narrow and unique set of circumstances. And that's what you need to focus on court of appeals. One final thing, because I saw a lot of posts and people saying the DOJ ruled this. The DOJ didn't rule anything. They're not a court. They were asked by the Court of Appeals that was hearing Donald Trump's appeal from the district court order denying the motion to dismiss to file a brief on what their position was. So this still has to be ruled on by the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals. The D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals will rule and ultimately will get appealed to the United States Supreme Court. I have no doubt about that, but it is an important

Starting point is 00:11:31 step. And one of the things that the DOJ kind of put in footnote one on page three also is that this whole Nixon versus Fitzgerald legal framework does not apply in criminal cases, which is a very subtle hint for those kind of legal geeks like me to basically say, we don't want to even here create any impression that a former president is entitled to any types of immunities when we're talking about crimes. It's because they did want to talk about these outer contours where there are tough decisions where presidents can have absolute immunity. So they were basically saying, as it relates to criminal cases, this whole analysis doesn't even apply, kind of subtly hinting that presidents should not even have any types of claims to

Starting point is 00:12:22 absolute immunity when it comes to crimes. Yeah. I mean, especially when your crime is inciting an insurrection against the United States. I think if you grant immunity for that, just think of the implications of that. I mean, at a certain point, it turns the presidency into, if you lose an election, you have X amount of days from the time you lost the election, from the time of inauguration, to try to overthrow the government. And as long as you do it within that time period, from the time of inauguration, to try to overthrow the government. And as long as you do it within that time period, you're good. I mean, it would set the worst standard on the planet. I hope the courts do the right thing here. I hope the Supreme Court does the right thing here. And then in that case, I want to see all these lawsuits rain down on Trump. I know the lawsuits have already been filed from members of Congress and from, you know, families and things like that, officers.

Starting point is 00:13:05 And so, I mean, there has to be justice. And I think to be able to hit Trump in this way, you know, I think we all should hope for justice for everybody who was affected by his insurrection. No, absolutely. So that's really it for that development. The other development that I think we should just touch on briefly is that Kellyanne Conway went before the Manhattan District Attorney's Office. She had actually two meetings. She met twice with them. Trump made to the porn star Stormy Daniels to cover up his five seconds of sexual intercourse

Starting point is 00:13:48 with Stormy Daniels, where he paid her off and then recategorized the payment as legal reimbursement to Michael Cohen. But Kellyanne Conway was the one who called up Cohen. At least Cohen wrote this in his book. And Cohen confirmed today that what he wrote in the book is accurate. He just couldn't talk about it because Cohen's the main witness now in front of the Manhattan district attorney. But she called Cohen basically and was like, good, thank you for doing this for him. Basically, Trump was too cowardly and wanted to hide behind it. So Trump had Kellyanne make the call. So that's why she's even in the mix of that. And also, you know, it's possible that the Manhattan District Attorney is asking her about a lot of other financial misconduct by Donald Trump that she may have been. Do you think she's giving facts or do you think she's giving alternative facts when she meets with these people?

Starting point is 00:14:40 Well, I think, you know, when I did a video that described that breaking news, and I just watched that clip of Alternative Facts, and I saw Chuck Todd, Chuck Todd actually did a pretty good job pressing her in that 2017 interview. But what I noticed, and I reflected upon this after watching that and making that video, and I talked about it in the video, there was a lot of fight by the media very early on, but when the alternative facts like the fungi growing on your shirt started and it kept on growing and growing and growing, the media kind of gave up and they got exhausted by it. And that's one of the things about fascism you have to guard. And that's one of the things we talk about a lot here on the

Starting point is 00:15:24 Midas Touch Network. Fascism is relentless. Fascism wears you down. There's a reason that in fascist ruled countries, the fascist faction is never 80% of the population at first. It's always 25, 20% of the population who are just relentlessly annoying. And so you have someone like a Chuck Todd there who does a very good job pressing, pressing, pressing. And then after a while, the media is just like, all right, they're just going to lie to us. So just let them say their thing and let's go on and we'll go home to our families and things are just, I don't even want to deal with these idiots. But that's not how you deal with fascists. The way you deal with fascists is what we're about to talk about,

Starting point is 00:16:02 about what actually happened on the floor of the House of Representatives. Brett, you want to start maybe going through some of these clips. And I think you got to start with, I know I'm hogging it right now. Can I start? Then I'll toss it. Why don't you kick it off, Ben? And then after the clip plays, why don't you give your thoughts? Then toss to the next clip and then give your thoughts. I really like talking about these clips. I'm like, I want to give it to Brett. And I really want to talk about it.

Starting point is 00:16:31 I got to say, though, it's why that exact reason that you just brought up about Kellyanne Conway, though, it's why we speak about all this stuff so often. And people are like, you'll get occasionally, why are you playing these clips of these crazy people? Because we refuse to get exhausted by it here. I mean, it is exhausting, but we refuse to let it get us down. And we think that it's really important for the average American out there for the people who are pro democracy, and whether you're independent or Republican or democratic, to look at what is is going on and this end of the party, which has become the mainstream of the party and say, that's not for me. I believe in actual

Starting point is 00:17:11 American values. So that's why we think it is so important to show you these people. And the moments we pick are very deliberate in order for you to see the full spectrum of what is actually going on. I mean, the worst thing that you could possibly do is close your eyes and ignore it and pretend like this is a normal time in our politics. It's just not. And that is so epitomized right now by what we are seeing on the House floor, by what we are seeing at CPAC. And it's why we got to talk about it all. Ben, where should we start right now? And our thinking behind this is just not kind of an arbitrary and capricious, hey, this is what we feel in our gut. This is actually what the

Starting point is 00:17:52 literature on authoritarianism and how to combat propaganda, this is all what it reflects. I mean, what we do when we're not recording videos is we're having lots of conversations with preeminent experts in the mindset of malignant narcissists, authoritarians. We speak to culty programmers. We steep ourselves, if that's even the right word, in the literature to learn about how in the past this disinformation is combated because what is taking place with this ultra MAGA movement, as they call themselves, is a modern incarnation of fascism that has repeated historically, that has precedent, and that actually has antidotes of how you address it.

Starting point is 00:18:41 With that said, I want to set the stage for this clip where Lauren Boebert ultimately calls the MAGA Republican Party ultra MAGA. And it's because they keep on referring to the Democratic Party as Democrat Party, Democrat Party, Democrat Party. So finally, Jamie Raskin just says, look, I get it if you make mistakes the first few times, but can you just do your best to try to say it correctly? So for example, we are the Democratic Party. I don't call you the banana Republican Party. We call you what your actual party is. So play this clip because then Lauren Boebert responds that. So first, let's play Jamie Raskin talking about the Democrat Party instead of Democratic. Play

Starting point is 00:19:29 this. I also wanted to make just a brief semantic point because the gentlelady was making a grammatical error that I heard some of her colleagues make before. I believe she referred to a Democrat solution. I heard another member talk about a Democrat member and a Democrat plan. I just wanted to educate our distinguished colleagues that Democrat is the noun. When you use it as an adjective, you say the Democratic member or the Democratic solution or the Democratic plan. And so I assume it's a good faith grammatical error the first few times, but after people are corrected several times

Starting point is 00:20:09 and they continue to say it, it seems like it's an act of incivility as if every time we mentioned the other party, it just came out with a kind of political speech impediment like, oh, the banana Republican party, as if we were to say that every time we mentioned the Banana Republican member or the Banana Republican plan or the Banana Republican conference. But we wouldn't do that.

Starting point is 00:20:32 So out of pure political courtesy, when it's an adjective, refer to the Democratic congresswoman or the Democratic member. It's like watching LeBron James in his prime. It's like a version of that with all these Jamie Raskin clips we're going to show. So in response to that, though, Lauren Boebert makes fun of that and mocks that. It's like it's also then to my LeBron James analogy, like the middle schooler, then like going and challenging LeBron James like and taking the bait. So then she's like, well, then we want to be called. I won't ruin the clip for you. So she says this, but then

Starting point is 00:21:09 Hakeem Jeffries responds and then Raskin responds. So watch the whole clip of the Democratic leader, Hakeem Jeffries, then watch Jamie Raskin just kind of eloquently do this takedown. Watch it. Here's the clip. That was that was great you know we are addressed as MAGA extremist extreme MAGA Republicans and I would like to make just a clarification point it's ultra MAGA that's what we prefer yes and Yes. And we get three pages calling for reports. The so-called. Reign in. Act. Here's what we should be reigning in. We should be reigning in the extreme MAGA Republican effort to cut Social Security. We should rein in the extreme MAGA Republican effort to cut Medicare. Rein in the extreme MAGA Republican effort to

Starting point is 00:22:11 criminalize reproductive freedom and impose a nationwide ban. Rein in the extreme MAGA Republican effort to crash the United States economy and default on our debt for the first time in American history. We should be reining in your effort to hand over sensitive security footage from the January 6th violent insurrection to an avowed conspiracy theorist. That's what we should be reining in. And yet the general lady from from Colorado said if I understood it correctly that she would continue with her deliberate mispronunciation of the name of our party in its adjectival form and by the way she took the opportunity

Starting point is 00:22:58 to raise the whole question of mega which I had not mentioned and she said and when you call me mega don't call me mega call me ultra mega So when the minority leader referred to the extreme mega element, which appears to be driving the train over there He should have called it the ultra mega element out of deference to the gentle lady from Colorado And I certainly will be able to honor her wishes in the future as she chooses to be described as Ultra mega and with that i'll reserve you know that's like you know the like in the rap and like in the rap battles like it's an actual oh yeah raskin's face as he's finishing saying that line too, he's most incredible speeches out there, protecting our democracy, being a true patriot.

Starting point is 00:24:09 And every day he has to go to work and deal with these freaking clowns, these clowns who are just there because they want to be famous. Like all these people want, I made this comment the other day, I think it was to you guys. I'm like, all they want to do is be content creators. And like, I mean that. Like all Lauren Boebert and Josh Hawley and Matt Gaetz. You have the photo of Hawley after. So they spent their time.

Starting point is 00:24:36 We may show some of these clips of Merrick Garland, but they spent their time yelling at Merrick Garland the whole time. And Brett, to your point at content creators, they don't even ask the questions and get the answers. They just go, and you, and you do this, and you do this. And Merrick Garland's like, do you want me to respond? No, I just want to yell at you. So then they do the content. Legitimately, that happened. Garland said, can I answer the question? And Ted Cruz goes, you may not. And then Holly memes himself. Do you have the photo of him memeing himself yeah so then he josh holly makes a meme of himself like okay what what in the world sorry brett but that that that's

Starting point is 00:25:12 them being a content creator just so weird this is what they do it for and look there's like always there's like a sketchy web address that like kind of looks like a news website but it's always like a fake pseudo news website that they link to that's done by somebody they're with. It's like they do it to get on Fox News. They are just content machines to deliver content to these content aggregators, whether it's Fox News, whether it is these random sketchy websites, which they then promote, whether it's their podcast. That's all they care about. They don't care about governing. They care about making a piece of content so that they could sell advertising on it or do

Starting point is 00:25:48 whatever they like. It's a really just pull back for a second and think about what they're doing. And they are doing that as they push forward fascism, which is like, just like the weirdest combination of things that they are doing by like trying to, I don't know, make a profit off this, trying to- Yeah. Well, that's what it is because fascism for them pays. Fascism and the destruction of democracy, those are their sponsors. You won't see those sponsors on the Myest Touch podcast, I guarantee you that. Honestly, what they're doing is not in the realm of trying to help people, trying to help the average American citizen. No, they could care less about that. I say this a bunch on the pod. It's really just ultimately them trying to pocket money, doing things in their own best interest. They could care

Starting point is 00:26:33 less about governing, less about putting policies that help. Could you imagine how great this country would be at its peak if you had both parties working together to just in the advancement of the country and advancement of the average American citizen. Instead, you have an entire political party that just wants to pocket money and cave to Putin. It's bizarre. And when we talk about what takes place at this CPAC convention, it's like, as weird as it gets on the House floor, they go ultra, ultra, ultra in CPAC because that's now them talking to their base. Like what goes on in the House floor with all this ultra MAGA madness, this is them believing that they're moderating their normal positions. And watch what happens when they go on CPAC.

Starting point is 00:27:20 But I want to show you one more Jamie Raskin take on that. I want to show you some of the things that happened in these committee hearings as well. And so Scott Perry was under criminal investigation for aiding and abetting the insurrection. And there's a number of court of appeals cases over his phone that was seized by the FBI and connect a search warrant that was lawfully issued to him. But Scott Perry made fun of Maryland and made a demeaning comment about Maryland and the economy of Maryland. That's the thing they always do also. They always just crap on every other part of the country that leans somewhat Democratic. Just imagine for one second if Biden came out and was like,

Starting point is 00:27:59 screw Idaho. The Republicans do this every day. They go, real America, fake America. If you're in California or New York, F you liberals. If you're in the middle of the country, that's real America. You are what America actually stands for. And it's really amazing that they don't get dinged for that. Imagine if their whole political ideology is bashing half of America. And then when they show a photo, like when they show a photo of like farmland and they're like, this is the real America. Then like the person points out, yeah, that's in California in a Democratic district. Maybe you want to actually know the areas that you're posting photos of before you do it. But here's Jamie Raskin defending Maryland

Starting point is 00:28:42 from the attack by ultra MAGA Republican Scott Perry. I did hear my colleague from Pennsylvania make some sort of disparaging remark about Maryland and about how he didn't live in Maryland, where apparently we don't understand the value of money. Well, the land where we actually are standing today used to be part of Maryland. It was ceded by Maryland to Congress for the purposes of creating the District of Columbia. And when our Capitol came under attack by violent insurrectionists and those who were chanting, hang Mike Pence, and who were determined to overthrow the 2020 presidential election, there were hundreds of police officers who came from Maryland to join the Metropolitan Police Department and the Capitol officers in defense of the Capitol of the United States.

Starting point is 00:29:25 So I take umbrage at any insinuation that the people of Maryland need to take a backseat to anybody in terms of the defense of the principles of this country. So I would thank Mr. Perry for a correction about that, and I'm happy to reserve the remainder of my time. He just stands there and he's just like, all right, who's next, who's next? It's like uh it's like neo with all the agents like you know right you know just just ready to go as they keep throwing more and more i've been i've loved when you bring the matrix references you know a movie from the 2000s and just always make it so you know top last movie ben's actually seen it might be it might be

Starting point is 00:30:01 the only time ben has had three hours to go sit down somewhere. He's been making YouTube videos ever since. There may be some truth to that. Okay. Now, during a hearing on Ukraine, here is a clip of Matt Gaetz, who's speaking to someone in the Biden administration, who the Biden administration designated to give congressional testimony. I think it's like an undersecretary of defense, but someone who knows the area, knows about American policy there, and is the person designated by the Biden administration. And Gaetz literally reads Chinese propaganda. He's quoting a Chinese propaganda daily newspaper that is put out by the Chinese Communist Party and enters it into the congressional testimony as evidence. Play the clip.

Starting point is 00:31:00 Is the Azov battalion getting access to U.S. weapons? Not that I'm aware of, but if you have information, I'd be happy to share it. I see the consent to enter into the record the Global Times investigative report that talks about training. It's from the Atlantic Council's Digital Forensics Research Lab, citing that the Azov battalion was even getting stuff as far back as 2018. Without objection, so ordered. Any reason to disagree with that assessment? I'm sorry, is this the Global Times from China? No, this is... That's what you read.

Starting point is 00:31:35 Yeah, it might be. Yeah. Would that be a reason? As a general matter, I don't take Beijing's propaganda at face value. No, no, yeah, but just tell me if the allegation is true or false. I don't have any evidence one way or the other. As a general matter, I don't take Beijing's propaganda at face value. Fair enough. I would agree with that assessment. And if that was... By the way, I want to specify one other

Starting point is 00:31:54 thing that he said too. Also, the timing that he was speaking about, if you go back to the clip, what did he say? Like 2017 to 2020 or 2018 to 2021 like he mentioned a a group of years that were mostly during the trump administration which is something that we're going to see a few times throughout this where they try to say that this was this whole scandal on this whole issue that happened and it happened under president biden in 2019 and you're like um excuse me uh it's just one note please the look on matt gates's face when he realized that yes it was in fact a direct chinese propaganda source was pretty priceless and he was like he just conceded the point at that point but this happens a lot with i mean the fact is and and i'm not going

Starting point is 00:32:39 to pretend like this affects um that on this only affects republicans because i know there are a lot of actors out there pushing similar stuff on democrats but i think the people who are kind of in power who keep falling for this sort of propaganda just so happen to always be those republican members of congress and i think it's because they are fed by these foreign sources, like you see. Jordy's doing a circular logic here. He's doing the cyclical. He's doing the cyclical. He's doing the cyclical. Listen, I'm not even saying that, though, about their insanity cyclical. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt here, Jordy. And I'm going to move your face away from

Starting point is 00:33:21 the screen because you're distracting. I'm not even giving them the benefit of the doubt here because, I mean, I am giving them the benefit of the doubt here because there are a lot of these news sources that are designed by foreign governments and foreign entities that specifically are pushing propaganda in order to divide, in order to separate Americans from one another. What they have learned is that if they feed specific narratives to Republicans, they could reach Republican members of Congress, Republican presidential candidates, and that's exactly what happens. So this example where you have a Chinese propaganda paper that's named something that sounds innocuous, that's the perfect kind of poison pill to get your anti-Ukraine message to Republican members of Congress who you know will take the bait. And that's not the only version of these papers. There are so many of these papers out there, online digital publications, that spread

Starting point is 00:34:17 the same kind of propaganda from whether it's Chinese points of view or Russian points of view, and they direct it because they know they're going to take the bait. And you see it time and time again. Even the Epic Times, which is one of the most watched right-wing outlets out there, and they deliver the paper of the Epic Times to people's homes. I've gotten it at my home sometimes delivered to me. It is literally like a product of the Chinese government. And it's a far-right paper that spreads far-right beliefs. You have to know where the sources are coming from. That's why like we

Starting point is 00:34:48 all need media literacy. It's one thing though, when it's a random person at home behind their computer, who is falling for it. It's another when it's a member of Congress or a president of the United States like Donald Trump falling for this stuff or a former president. You know, that's when it gets highly dangerous and you just got to be looking out for it. Can I say this? That was, yes, you're 100% right. And that moment needed the severity and the seriousness of which you brought to it. But that clip is the funniest fucking clip I've ever watched. I could watch that clip over and over and over and over again and laugh at Matt Gaetz without it getting any less funny.

Starting point is 00:35:26 The look on his face when he confirms it in his own mind, and he probably knew maybe he didn't make it. It's just, it is the single perfect clip on the internet right now. It's amazing. I may have one to one up that clip. And it also involves Matt same on the same day. So you know how Matt Gaetz wanted to and did introduce this like performative amendment where you have to now say the Pledge of Allegiance like multiple times, like it's not good enough just to say it in the morning, you then have to say it right before the Judiciary Committee starts. You got to say it before you use the restroom. You guys on the Democrats, the members of the Democratic Party basically said, well, can we at least vet the people who were going to lead it to make sure they're not insurrectionists?

Starting point is 00:36:13 And the Republicans are like, well, we're not going to call in a murderer here or anything. So the first person that Matt Gaetz called to do the P of allegiance at the house judiciary committee is just someone that matt gates met at a gun club and on very basic diligence of this person he's an accused murderer who led the pledge of allegiance in our house of representatives someone who had just killed somebody then went to the house of representatives by the the way, where the MAGA Republicans, I'm sorry, the ultra MAGA Republicans, ultra MAGA, whatever they call themselves, have now removed the metal detectors. And they invited a accused murderer to do the pledge. And Representative Eric Swalwell, by the way, who's a former prosecutor, brilliantly points out what took place. Play this clip.

Starting point is 00:37:10 One of the very first committees, the very first committee hearing of this Congress, Mr. Gates, after we'd all agreed on what the committee's plan was going to be, it was going to be voice voted, everyone agreed, Mr. Gates wanted to offer an amendment to say the Pledge of Allegiance. That's great. Every single person on our side supported that. Now, I don't think he really, genuinely cares about saying the Pledge of Allegiance, but he wanted to do it, again, to own the libs and to see if we would vote against it. We didn't. But who did he bring in here to say the Pledge of Allegiance? Who did he parade in here in a uniform? Somebody that he met at a gun club, he said, locally. Okay.

Starting point is 00:37:48 Mr. Cicilline had the crazy idea that maybe we should vet the people who come in here, make sure they're not insurrectionists. Mr. McClintock, I am not kidding you. Mr. McClintock said, well, it's not like we're going to invite somebody who committed murder. No, he literally said that. It's not like we're going to invite somebody who committed murder. No, he literally said that. It's not like we're going to invite somebody who committed murder. Okay, well, who did Mr. Gates bring? He brought Corey Beekman.

Starting point is 00:38:14 Corey Beekman, in 2019, was in a standoff with the Michigan police after he was arrested and charged with murder, assault with the intent to commit murder and two counts of felony firearm possession. The family of the victims said, Mr. Gates doing that, it was like getting a dagger stuck in our heart again. We were infuriated when we first saw it.

Starting point is 00:38:40 I was disgusted with the whole thing. That's why there's a trust deficit here. You'd pull off a public stunt to try and own the libs. And what you did was you brought in a guy who allegedly shot two people and killed one of them. That's where the trust deficit is. So you can play your games, conduct your stunts. We're here to get shit done. I like at the end, it kind of cuts up and he's like, we're here to get i like at the end it kind of cuts up and he's like we're here to get shit done and that's you know another slogan in addition to ultramitus we're here to get shit done another t-shirt that's a great one right to work that clip was fascinating swalwell

Starting point is 00:39:18 crushed that just like raskin that was i actually haven't seen i'm embarrassed i haven't seen that clip brothers that's incredible it's fascinating to me that the camera never cuts the gates. Brett, why do you think the camera never cuts the gates? Well, the house controls the cameras now. So it's not what they had during that incredible marathon night of Kevin McCarthy being humiliated over and over where nobody controlled the cameras. Now the party in power controls the cameras now the the the party in power controls the cameras so it's a lot less crazy is that yeah i know it's upsetting honestly

Starting point is 00:39:50 and that's a critique i'll have both parties open up the cameras let the c-span people run the cameras because that is um in addition to being highly entertaining which it certainly is and was um it reveals a lot and you see a lot of nuance and you really, and there's not as much room for these politicians to hide. And I think that kind of transparency is a good thing in my view. And finally, on the topic of disinformation and calling these ultra MAGA Republicans out for it, here you got Marjorie Taylor Greene, who calls a witness, and it's a very tragic situation. The witness is two sons passed away in 2020. But of course, Marjorie Taylor Greene doesn't mention that no one mentions that in the questionings,

Starting point is 00:40:42 it has to be later exposed by Democrats and fact checkers to say this, but it's an important conversation that we all need to have. I did a whole video on it that was released this morning where we need to, as a nation, this should be a bipartisan issue, tackle drug addiction in a very intelligent and a very compassionate and in an intelligent way that really addresses the root causes that we know that the war on drugs as it was previously and presently constant, we know it doesn't work, but every time the Democratic Party tries to introduce legislation that could potentially help, what do the MAGA Republicans do? Oh, you're putting drugs on the street.

Starting point is 00:41:32 You're giving drug addicts drugs. You're just trying to get everybody high. The Democrats support drugs on the street. It's like we need to come together. And instead, though, it's all performative, right? It'd be one thing if Marjorie Taylor Greene and the ultra Republicans, MAGA Republicans truly cared about this issue, but they don't. And how do you know they don't? Because you put someone on from 2020, and then you say President Biden killed her children. Here, just play this clip.

Starting point is 00:42:06 Should never have happened to you. It should never happen to any family. It happens to families at home where I live. It happens to pretty much everyone we know. And I want to ask you, and first I want to thank you for being brave to come here and share your grief with our committee. But Ms. Kiesling, would your sons be alive today if our government would secure our southern border? The year Caleb was born, 2000, there were 20,000 drug-related deaths. And the year they died, it was five times as many.

Starting point is 00:42:40 And I appreciate you using the term fentanyl poisoning because that's what it was it wasn't an overdose they had no idea that they were doing anything that could kill them and it's because fentanyl got into this country listen and the death occurred in 2020 and there really is a serious issue that needs to be confronted with seriousness, not with Marjorie Taylor Greene doing those types of stunts. It doesn't benefit anyone, Brett. And I think it's really appalling to use somebody like that who clearly suffered and is suffering for political purposes. I think it's disgusting to use it also to stoke anti-immigrant sentiment um and to blame biden for killing this

Starting point is 00:43:27 person's children when her children died under trump i mean these are the kind of performative stunts that are just so gross and abhorrent to me and just keep sending us backwards and something i find also that the republicans often do is they'll like make fun of people addicted to drugs they'll make fun of drug addicts and i think that's really horrific as well and does nothing to help solve the problem and this this constant efforts by them like you said ben for them to go oh the democrats just want all the drugs on the street then all right it's it's kind of the same thing that they do with like immigration also now that we're talking about both it's always like an all or nothing thing with them and anytime there are any sort of steps kind of designed to you know know what, let's get together, let's solve

Starting point is 00:44:08 this problem in a nuanced way. Families across America, almost like I'm sure every family out there knows somebody struggling with addiction. Like I would guarantee 90 plus percent of families know at least somebody. And to shame those people and to not lift a finger to help and then to use one of those people's pains against immigrants and to blame Biden for something that didn't even happen when Biden was president. It's just absolutely despicable, appalling. And you notice it really is despicable to just use another person like to use somebody like that for your own political gain what it really also does remind me of is how trump throws actually babbitt's mother out there at his rallies and things it gets them it gets her all riled up um for something that trump in fact caused the death of like there's there's no other way to to put that and so seeing time and time

Starting point is 00:45:04 again who's doing this? It's always the Republican Party. You know, they try and play to people's emotions and it's very sad. But ultimately, all these Republicans don't care about that family. They're using them in really just such a, right, you said it right, a disgusting way. And Ben, real quick, your video on this, i want to tell all of our followers all of our listeners everyone watch that video after ben that was after this episode that was really beautifully done big bro that you said some incredible stuff in that video and it was it

Starting point is 00:45:34 was awesome and by the way i and by the way like honestly like ashley babbitt's mom also i don't think she i think she's complicit in it i i think this woman who went to Congress to use her son's death is complicit in it as well. Like, I don't think they're just innocent bystanders. I'm sorry. Like I'll have to take a controversial stance. I,

Starting point is 00:45:52 but it's, it's, it's really messed up to use your own kids death as a political prop to try to take down a political party who you disagree with. I mean, to me, that's just like, and I understand that they're, you know, facing trauma and whatnot. And there's this like gross combination that you

Starting point is 00:46:10 see between the kind of recruitment process by these Republicans, by people like Trump and Marjorie Taylor Greene, but also the acceptance on their side to go along with this BS narrative. You know, it's all- I disagree with you there. I'll take the contrarian view and I'll put it back on the MAGA Republicans there. And in my practice as a civil rights lawyer, seeing people who are going through a lot of trauma, there oftentimes is a, you need closure, and where the closure requires, in many cases, accountability and justice somewhere, you need to sometimes put the blame in a specific part. and provide an answer when actually that's not what the answer is and then creates and encourages certain things. So in no way, I don't agree with you there, but it only is informed by the experience I have on why you need good counsel in a situation when dealing with someone who's experienced that utmost trauma and how you handle it is so delicately. And this is using people as props is the exact opposite way to handle it. You mentioned Ashley Babbitt, Jordi. Her mother met with Kevin McCarthy and a number of leaders from the ultra

Starting point is 00:47:39 MAGA Republican Party, the same Republican leaders who refused to meet with Capitol Police officers, that probably tells you everything you need to know there. And then as I look at that video, also, again, the very fact that it's not mentioned that the incident happened in 2020, I know the point I wanted to make, the person sitting next to the individual in that video is the Pinal County Sheriff, Mark Lamb, who's an ultra MAGA sheriff, who goes out and gives the Trump rallies, who, by the way, was caught off guard by Dan Goldman, Democratic member Dan Goldman, who basically asked him, and Mark Lamb was not expecting the question, was the election a free and fair election in 2020? And Lamb said, as a

Starting point is 00:48:32 law enforcement officer, I see no reason why it was not a free and fair election, which totally caught Lamb off guard. But the reason they positioned Lamb, who has this anti-immigrant rhetoric right next to her, was to push a political agenda and not actually solve the problem. I want to then show us a video that we did about Marjorie Taylor Greene when she also tried to blame Biden because there were more seizures of fentanyl at the border. But before doing that, I want to take just a quick message break right now. And then I got to show you the ad done by the Midas Touch Pack. Here, before you play the ad, let's go to a quick commercial break. And now let's take a quick break to talk about our next partner, Roan. If you're like me, you understand the pains of finding out what to wear. Let's face it,

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Starting point is 00:51:30 go like I do? First off, your ad reads are absolutely phenomenal. Second to none. Let's go. We're going to show you what happened at the CPAC, which is, as I said, bizarre doesn't do it justice so we're going to have to just show you some of the clips because it escalates what we just showed you on the uh floor you ain't seen nothing yet and then we're going to compare that to president biden's speech in the world of normalcy but first we got to show you an ad that was made by the political action arm of the midas Touch Pack. And so we saw that-

Starting point is 00:52:08 We show her comments first. Yeah. Let's show Marjorie Taylor Greene's comments first, and then let's show the ad that we did. So first play Marjorie Taylor Greene's comments. I want you to know that in 2020, there were 4.8 thousand pounds of fentanyl seized by cbp but in 2021 fiscal year 2021 it increased to 11.2 thousand pounds of fentanyl was seized by the cbp that is a direct result of biden administration so brett you saw that and take us through because let's be clear, Jordy and Ben are not the ones actually editing that. Walk us through the process. So no, so I saw that clip and it's been something that I know we've wanted to do a while is figure out a way to hit these ridiculous arguments about, oh, look, President Biden is seizing

Starting point is 00:53:00 so much more fentanyl now than Donald Trump was. It's like, yeah, isn't that a good thing? Don't you want to not have that go across the border? Don't you want to be seizing it? So I've been thinking in the back of my head, how do you get that across? Because they're usually tweets and offhand remarks. And so I was like, the tweets in a video, that's not going to be fun. When she said this, I was like, she just absolutely teed it up for us. And it happened to be that she said that within 20 seconds. And I was like, well, that'sed it up for us. And it happened to be that she said that within like 20 seconds. And I was like, well, that's the ad. That's a 30-second ad right there.

Starting point is 00:53:29 I was like, here's what we got to do. Just literally, this is it. You take her exact words, you play them, you put positive patriotic music behind it, and then you say, President Biden protecting our border or something to that effect. And you know what? And then you say President Biden protecting our border or something to that effect. And it's exactly what we did because I think we all want more seizures of fentanyl at the border. I think that is a good thing at the end of the day. So we put together this ad. I'll play it for you right now.

Starting point is 00:53:57 Let me know what you think. In 2020, there were 4.8 thousand pounds of fentanyl seized by cbp but in 2021 it increased to 11.2 thousand pounds of fentanyl was seized by the cbp that is a direct result of biden administration policies president biden protecting our border keeping our country safe Midas Touch is responsible for the content of this advertising I gotta say when I played it back like with the full edit for the first time I started hysterically laughing I mean it's I and and I also know deep down in the back of my head I'm not even gonna lie I know how upset this ad is going to make her, which makes me even happier. And let us know what you think of the spot. I love it. Let us know if you think we should play

Starting point is 00:54:52 it on any of the networks or anything. We're open to your suggestions, where, when. We want all the feedback in the world. But I mean, to hammer them home on it. I also want something every time that they go and they say the same argument, you could just drop that in the reply. Now, you know, you could just drop that video in a reply. We could just troll them, you know, every single time with this spot. So it'll last and it'll be something that you could consistently go back to. I think that's an important point you make there too, Brett, about the interactive nature of the Midas Mighty and the community here. Because whenever we're asked, what's the most powerful ingredient of the Midas Touch Network?

Starting point is 00:55:31 We just asked that question earlier today by someone in a meeting, and we said, it's the Midas Mighty. It's the fact that when these videos are made, the Midas Mighty, everybody watching it shares it, they send it to friends and coworkers, and they post it wherever they can post it. And that's how collectively together we can actually combat the disinformation. Honestly, that has more of an influence probably than running it somewhere. Like you sending it to your friends, you sending it to your family, you posting it on, I don't know, Reddit or wherever, Facebook, whatever. That is all super helpful in spreading the message. And it ultimately ends up oftentimes reaching far more people. And so this video right now, as of the time we're doing this, I know it was earlier, it

Starting point is 00:56:14 was like a top five trend in the country, over a half million views. I think by morning, I think we'll probably get up to a million hits on that video. Maybe Marjorie Taylor Greene was just like, maybe she doesn't know the word seize. Maybe she thought it's like, I seize a lot of fentanyl. Like I seize it. Interesting. I like when you make the videos more than when you come up with- Yeah, than the jokes. You're way better at making videos than you are jokes. But let me just say- Maybe she's like, I really seize a lot of fentanyl out there. Truly. I actually think- They seize a lot of fentanyl. Truly. I actually think. They seize a lot.

Starting point is 00:56:45 Okay. I think you've, I think you've now actually taken that talking point away from them. I don't see them going back to that, at least on a mic or on a camera anytime soon. I think what you just did is the ultimate mic drop for that dumb. Jay, you know,

Starting point is 00:57:02 you know, you know better, you know better of these MAGA Republicans. How about these ultra MAGA Republicans? That video is so funny because it just really goes to show a proactive approach that the Biden administration is taking in trying to keep our border and keeping our border safe. It's like the Trump approach with test. Don't test. If you don't test for COVID, nobody's going to have COVID. It's like they like the inaction. They love the inaction. So they don't actually have to solve the problems because these Republicans, these ultra-mega Republicans, they don't want to solve the problems. Let's go back to what we were talking about earlier. They want to pocket

Starting point is 00:57:36 money any way they can. Don't test. That's going to take our money away. Put the money in our pockets. For that video, for those who want to see it, I do see people asking if you want to be able to replay it and share it. It's on our YouTube as a YouTube short. It's pinned to the top of our Twitter feed. You can see it there. It's on our Instagram. It's on our Facebook. It's everywhere we are. Just go to our page. You'll see it.

Starting point is 00:57:56 It's pretty prominently featured. Before we move on, I don't know if you have a point. I think we just have to see Marjorie Taylor Greene attempting to read numbers. It's just the icing on the cake of the Marjorie Taylor Greene stuff. It's enjoyable to me, and it's the perfect bow on this gift that Marjorie Taylor Greene delivered. So here's Marjorie Taylor Greene attempting to read numbers over a million, and she doesn't go well. What it did to our children's math and reading levels is horrific.

Starting point is 00:58:27 School closures brought them to the lowest levels in years. England eighth graders, math proficiency dropped by seven points. Reading levels dropped by two points. There are 1,524,481. This is over 1,000,000. 1.524,491. This is over 1,000,001.5. I like that she just gave up. You know in the old John Stewart. It's over a million.

Starting point is 00:58:53 You know in the old John Stewart daily show days, that would be the moment of Zen right there. Just go out on that one. Because it's the perfect joke. It's the perfect joke because she sets it up speaking about reading comprehension and math skills. And then she proceeds to just fall flat on her face doing exactly that. It's the perfect joke because she sets it up speaking about reading comprehension and math skills. And then she proceeds to just fall flat on her face doing exactly that.

Starting point is 00:59:13 She does this every hearing, though. That's not an isolated incident. We did go back to the last time we did a review of the hearings where she confused. She's like, and you gave that one school $8 billion for gender studies, like $8 billion to one school got these things matter, especially where we're talking about the need to raise the debt ceiling and the terrorists who want to, I'm sorry, the ultra magas who want to hold us hostage are the people who you are seeing right here. These are the people that can't count, who actually caused the United States to incur 25% of its current debt during the Trump administration, who are refusing to increase the debt ceiling as they did every time in the Trump administration when they raised our deficit up to

Starting point is 01:00:22 by like $7 trillion. Yes, that's the actual number, $7 trillion. Meanwhile, Biden has decreased our national deficit by like $2 trillion. Those are the facts. And as we'll show you clips later, Biden's talking about fiscal responsibility. Democrats are talking about fiscal responsibility and that we're fiscally responsible. It is not fiscally responsible to cause the United States to default on its debt. And Jordy, when you were giving too

Starting point is 01:00:50 much credit to these ultra MAGA Republicans and you said, this ends it. Look, Jordy, you would think it would end it when they invited- How is that me giving them credit? I was giving Brett credit for a knockout blow. Yeah, now there's nothing though that could end. Jordy, they're still talking about Hillary's emails. They're still talking about Hillary's emails. They're still talking about Bill Clinton's impeachment. I mean, let's be honest. They're talking about George H.W. Bush's documents. But don't lawyer me. Don't lawyer

Starting point is 01:01:16 me and say what you gave the ultra-maximum credit. I want to talk about CPAC. So last year, they featured Viktor Orban, the far-right, essentially fascist leader of Hungary, prime minister. That was their big speaker last year they featured Viktor Orban, the far right, essentially fascist leader of Hungary, prime minister. That was their big speaker last year. So, Jordi, this year, who do you think they brought in? Fresh off the insurrection in Brazil, they brought in Jair Bolsonaro as the speaker.

Starting point is 01:01:39 And they wear these red hats. I mean, it just it has such a fascistic vibe because that is the vibe right there. And let's just go through some of these clips. So the CPAC is run by Matt Schlapp, who has been sued by a Republican male staffer who worked for the Herschel Walker campaign, who's accused Schlapp of sexually assaulting him and grabbing the staffers genitals and schlapp is the one who is hosting uh this event who's accused of groping the male staffers genitals and by the way there's like contemporaneous text messages where schlapp saying he's like please call me please call me immediately like all of these things around that time and the victim took a contemporaneous recording of the situation and said exactly what took place there. But let's start off with the video of Schlapp telling Jim

Starting point is 01:02:32 Jordan that you're the most powerful man in Washington, D.C. Play the clip. There's a lot of chatter in the media about who's here and not here. I'm really proud to be standing alongside someone I think might just be the most powerful man in Washington, D.C. Because who's not there is Ron DeSantis, who's not there is former Vice President Pence. And the reason that they're not there, though, specifically, and Mitch McConnell isn't there and Kevin McCarthy McCarthy isn't there, and Ronan McDonough. Let's be clear. They are not taking some stance that they're against to slap, okay? They're using that as an excuse because they always want to come up with excuses. They are all worried. Everybody in that picture, you could pull up the picture.

Starting point is 01:03:20 And by the way, some of them aren't. Some of them are just saying like, oh, I have a conflict. I got this other thing. It's like a week-long event. I got this other speech I got to do that whole week. Yes, that whole week. I can't do it. Because CPAC now is cult PAC, and Donald Trump knows it. Donald Trump's basically, he writes a bunch of posts on his social media platform mocking the individuals who don't show up, who aren't showing up. And they're not showing up because they are going to get booed. They know they're going to get booed. They aided and enabled the cult.

Starting point is 01:03:52 The cult is now the party. And these individuals are afraid that they're going to be caught on camera getting booed at Yale. That just like when DeSantis was at a book signing the other day in Florida, the Trump cultists showed up to protest the book signing. And DeSantis then sent first the the the the shopping, the shop officer, and then the actual cops to basically kick them out. Anybody who wears a Trump shirt. So it was just so interesting seeing that. So the people who are at.

Starting point is 01:04:24 Let me. Sorry, Ben. Let me. I really just want to emphasize, you're so right. And it is driving me crazy watching the quote unquote legacy media cover this because they're letting DeSantis, they're letting all of these people off the hook as if they're taking some high moral ground on this, that it's a Schlapp thing, that they're offended that Schlapp was doing something inappropriate. That's not it at all. Nobody's looking at it. I was going to say something bad, so I really held my tongue on that one. Nobody's actually looking at that under that critical lens, Ben. I think that's a really important diagnosis that you have there. It has nothing to do with the Schlapp situation, nothing to do with it at all. It has everything to do with the fact that all of those people

Starting point is 01:05:08 would get booed incessantly by this cult, by the cult that they created and enabled, because all of those cult members have now turned on them. And they don't want that footage out there. They don't want that known to the larger public, but it is fact. Schlapp. And here's what I'm going to say, though. It is indicative, and it's a great rant, Jay, but it's indicative of why none of those people in that photo who are considering running for president or why nobody else in the Republican field, personally, I don't think they even have a shot of coming close to beating Trump for the primary nomination. I mean, even the more I see DeSantis

Starting point is 01:05:46 out there try to battle with this Trump thing, even though he hasn't announced, this guy's going to take on Donald Trump. Trump is going to absolutely destroy this guy, which you have to realize about the party. It's exactly what Ben said. We're looking at a cult right now. We're looking at a cult. You think they're going to go against their cult leader? They're not going to go against their cult leader. Are you kidding me? And this CPAC event, or really at this point, it's a MAGA rally. It's a MAGA convention. And they are celebrating it by bringing in the craziest of the MAGA politicians in Congress. They are bringing in the craziest MAGA figures. They are bringing in literally Bolsonaroaro and i mean just to show you they brought another

Starting point is 01:06:25 bolsonaro they brought bolsonaro like and our next guest is bolsonaro it's an snl skit what they're doing their conduct though to cult members makes sense jordy you use the word critical lens because to non-cult members when you look at a cult and they're like, oh, we need to engage in these acts. And so what you see at cult pack is the cult performance. Like if you remove for a second that this is a political party, right? And just assume that this is going on in Jonestown, right? And you said, this is a group of people, they're meeting, and here are the things that they are talking about. So let's do this hypothetical with me for a second, right? Remove the idea that this is even a political party, because there really isn't, it's a cult,

Starting point is 01:07:42 and put yourself that you're watching this play out in an island where the cult lives, and it's a cult retreat. And now watch what Scott Perry, one of the cult elders, has to say. Play this clip where he says, I don't even know what he's talking about, but just play this clip. That you can't buy a gas stove, but that you must buy an electric vehicle. That you can't go a gas stove, but that you must buy an electric vehicle, that you can't go to work, but you must put some experimental potion in your arm and then keep showing up to do that, to visit your church of worship. Our personal sovereignty is what this nation was built on. And it's the foundation. It is under assault by every single facet of the

Starting point is 01:08:22 government. And as Ralph has said, we are going to create a firestorm. Look, if it's up to me, there's going to be a firestorm. These leftists, these Marxists that have prevailed upon the American people and used the awesome power of the federal government to cow us into fear in our homes, they've got to be put on notice. They've got to be quaking in fear. They've got to be worried. They've got to be losing weight because they're not eating because they're worried that they're gonna end up going to jail

Starting point is 01:08:49 For using the awesome power of the federal government and if they're not interested in showing up in mr. Jordan's here You know what? I'm in charge now and the Transportation Committee of federal leases, huh? Huh that that's something I wonder whose leases might be coming well we're taking a look at the list it's going to be awesome when they go from a big building to about oh i know that space on the square there uh todd that'd be awesome wouldn't it i love it like we got a fight on every corner ladies and gentlemen uh scholars have described the theology of heaven's gate that's what i was referring to, as a mixture of Christian millennialism, New Age, UFOlogy, UFO religion.

Starting point is 01:09:31 Like, if you think about the kind of stuff that these people are saying here on CPAC, and again, play out this hypothetical with me that what you're watching is in an island or in some compound, and that these are the types of things that the cult elders are saying and so let me show you what the cult elder uh john ken i hate calling him john kennedy but that's uh purportedly his name that's that's kennedy from louisiana the ultra mega republican from louisiana this is what he uh says to the congregation if you will play this clip americans do not deserve to be governed by deeply weird nauseously woke people who hate george washington thomas jefferson abraham lincoln dr zeus and mr potato head okay a when we do when I do that

Starting point is 01:10:28 stick that I do right where I go the wait what are you talking about oh that's great do you upload that tape every day do you upload that clip every episode yeah i don't leave it i leave it in mr potato head you know this and that like you know if you start understanding it right through the prism of of cult behavior counteracting it through the prism of cult deprogramming and the bubbles that they live in, the only way it actually perfectly fits the prism when then they're like, these leftists, it's the same way a heaven's gate or a cult looks at the outsiders. When the cults think of the outsiders, it's all these outsiders who could be just normal it's like scientology that's a suppressive person you can't talk to that person that person is evil i

Starting point is 01:11:29 mean it's the same concept and then when you guys because it was i'm like oh this is some leftist radical stuff and i'm like what jobs increasing your wage like increasing your wage making sure that you get health care by the way it's a setup for another ad also. I'm just saying. I usually don't say ideas that I have in my head in case I don't do them or whatever, but you can just envision this for yourself. When he goes, America doesn't want these deeply weird people, and then you just flash cut to all the deeply weird things that Republicans do because it's all projection. We did an ad also called Weird GOP, which I can literally just replace. I think there's James Carville speaking about how weird the GOP was,

Starting point is 01:12:10 but I could literally just replace him with that clip of Kennedy and re-release the ad, and it would work just as well. That's the thing too. When you're in it, the normal people seem weird to you. It's's just the biggest projection ever. I mean, we show you all these clips. Are these normal people? Are these American values? Are they threatening to lock up leftists and that they're going to be quaking in their boots because they're so hungry because they're going to go to prison? Is that a normal way to speak? Is any of this normal? It's just not normal. So we have to expose the weirdness of it for everyone to see. Ben, let's take that analogy even further there, Ben.

Starting point is 01:12:48 And the Heaven's Gate folks, didn't they all wear like the same white Reeboks or white Nikes or whatnot? Well, everyone at the CPAC convention, man, they got their MAGA hat going on. Just like we said before, it's total Trump territory. But these people just overplay their hands. They're lunatics. Like, there's no other way to say it. And you shouldn't be ashamed to say that. You could watch this and watch what's going on and say,

Starting point is 01:13:10 hey, that's not healthy behavior. And we need to call that out. And because they masquerade though with the labels that they're a political party, they use the words conservative. They use those terms, right? The media only sees things in a very kind of confined box, right? And the media through its own laziness, large media networks want to keep labels because it's easy and organized to keep the labels. And if there's a complete restructuring of the labels, then how do you even have daily programming and what do you do? So it's just easy to say those are conservatives. This is a conservative convention. These are Republicans. When actually the more complicated

Starting point is 01:13:58 explanation, but actually becomes much simpler, is to say there's nothing conservative about anything that you just watched at this convention and that what you just watched is a combination of some of the most bizarre stuff and some of the most dangerous stuff. I'll leave you with this one more. I mean, this is J.D. Vance, who pointed an AR-15 up at the sky when the Chinese spy balloon was over a journey. You mentioned testing, right? The Trump policy to the Chinese spy balloon, I was just thinking about this, is the same kind of view of, if we don't test, we don't know that there's even COVID. If we don't even have the infrastructure to test the spy balloons, we don't even know that the spy balloons are coming over the United States of America. So that's why they don't know because they were just so incompetent.

Starting point is 01:14:47 But this is what J.D. Vance says as well. And he's complaining about the hospital taking precautions when his wife had COVID. Here, play this clip. My wife gets COVID and she actually I got for me, it was like a mild cold for her. She got actually pretty sick, which maybe has something to do with the fact she was 39 weeks pregnant. Nine days afterwards, she starts going into labor. And we called the hospital and they said, try to wait another few hours. Because if you come in now, you're going to have to wear the full mask, body gear set up, complete quarantine. Your husband can't be in the room with you.

Starting point is 01:15:22 But if you wait a few hours, then you've reached the quarantine period. This was in December of 2021. So we ruined, I mean, all of us have a crazy COVID story. I think mine is better than most. In other words, there were a lot of people, of course, who were prevented seeing loved ones in their final moments, and that is heartbreaking. But the failure to be honest about this virus with the American people ruined a lot of lives. What ruined a lot of lives was the deadly pandemic. It killed a lot of people. What ruined a lot of lives was the disinformation. And I am very confident, very confident that if Obama was still the president, if Hillary Clinton was the president, the moment there was any sign of what was going on in China,

Starting point is 01:16:10 the moment something happened, there would have been an international effort. The way we do everything here, we used to do everything to try to address it. It's not a coincidence that when America said, we don't care about the world under Donald Trump, America didn't say it. Donald Trump forced the country in his predatory ways to say it. And when America ceded its leadership because of Donald Trump, that's when a global pandemic. It is not a coincidence that those two things happen. Let's look at what a real leader does, President Biden, just right after this one more quick message. Let's play it.

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Starting point is 01:18:23 So this is President Biden giving a speech at the Democratic House caucus meeting. Here's the first clip I want to show you where Biden says, here's the deal. I called on the prescription drug companies to bring down the price of insulin. And here's what happened. Play this clip of Biden from his recent speech. I called on the prescription drug companies to bring down the price of insulin to $35 to everyone, not just seniors. And today, Eli Lilly, the largest manufacturer of insulin in the United States of America, agreed to do just that. $35.

Starting point is 01:19:03 But guess what that means? Every other company making insulin is going to have to lower their prices to 35 because they can't compete here's president biden saying i i telling the house democrats i love your republican colleague colleagues you have to work with they're they're really amazing in their calculations here play, play this clip. The mega Republicans, they're amazing. They're really amazing, their calculations. They say Biden and the Democrats, because they brought down the price of drugs, they're increasing inflation. Well, it has the advantage not only of people being able to live longer and better and be able to afford their their prescription drugs but guess what it reduces the deficit 158 billion dollars

Starting point is 01:19:52 and here's president biden calling out marjorie taylor greene for the disinformation that she spread and he's it's it's so good he goes the more marjorie taylor greene speaks the more people are going to come running to us. Play this clip. A little bit of more Marjorie Taylor Greene and a few more. You're going to have a lot of Republicans running our way. Isn't she amazing? I was the reason she was she was very specific. I shouldn't digress.

Starting point is 01:20:31 Probably. She was very specific recently saying that a mom, a poor mother who lost two kids to fentanyl, that that I killed her sons well the interesting thing is that fentanyl they took came during the last administration yeah i mean very powerful and then finally here's what he has to say about rick scott we're all kidding aside it was it was amazing and then there's senator rick scott the guy who's been saying for a year he wants to cut Social Security, Medicare, now says, never mind. So he's saying. And he says he actually agreed with us all along. He really didn't mean what he'd been saying. Well, like I said, I believe in conversion. Maybe they found religion. I sure hope so. But i'll believe it when i see it i'll believe it when i

Starting point is 01:21:28 see it too but the contrast there and this is going back to the hypothetical i gave you basically saying not the hypothetical just the scenario of remove republican conservative and remove Republican, conservative, and that that's a cult. The fact that they can view what President Biden just said as being radical or leftist or problematic. I mean, when you're talking about things like getting more jobs for Americans and improving our infrastructure and improving working conditions and making sure that America could have the best semiconductor jobs here and high paying jobs and capping the price of insulin and doing so in a way that then encourages private businesses outside of Medicare to do the same thing, which is such a huge benefit across the board to Americans.

Starting point is 01:22:27 When you talk about education, I mean, these are the issues that Democrats are talking about. And these are the issues that on a day-to-day basis, I don't know about you, but when I wake up in the morning, I'm not thinking about Mr. Potato Head as an adult. I don't know about you. When I wake up in the morning, I'm not thinking about pronouns and that making me sad or upset. I don't know about you. When I wake up in the morning, I'm not thinking about Dr. Seuss. I don't know about you. When I wake up in the morning, I'm not thinking about Dr. Seuss. I don't know about you.

Starting point is 01:23:09 When I wake up in the morning, I'm not thinking about the green M&M versus the purple M&M. I don't know about you. Those are not things that when I wake up in the morning, I'm thinking about. I'm not thinking about, oh all that Disney movie is so whoa it's so freaking whoa what am I gonna do honey honey have you seen this woke this woke Disney movie sorry that's that's not what I'm thinking about. What I'm thinking about is jobs for the American people. What I'm thinking about is when I drive and I'm going over the bridge, has our country invested in the right infrastructure where that bridge isn't going to

Starting point is 01:24:05 collapse? What I'm thinking about are the working conditions of my neighbors, of family members, of community members, of people in this country. I'm thinking about equality of people. I'm thinking about treating people with dignity. I'm thinking about a woman's right to control her body. I'm thinking about education for people. I'm thinking about, are we going to empower democracies abroad or are we going to let fascists try to take over the globe? Those are the issues that I think about because ultimately those are the issues that actually are worthy of thinking about and Democrats are confronting those issues. So do I agree with Democrats on all of the issues? No, I don't. But do I respect that they are acting like adults

Starting point is 01:25:10 and that they are confronting those issues and they are not trying to feed me a fascistic diet of bullshit to focus on Mr. Freaking Potato Head? That is what I care about. And I hope that's what you all care about. And that's why you watch this network. I mean, I don't know how either me or Jordy are supposed to top that one, Ben. That was one of the rants of the ages. But I will just let you know that I am absolutely 100% clipping that portion out of your little woke rant. And I will just let you know that I am absolutely 100% clipping that portion out of your little walk rant. And I will be playing it on a future show. I'm excited for that one. And can I just say to the Biden clip too, specifically, just before we move off this

Starting point is 01:25:53 completely, that's great right there. That's Biden at his best, man. When he's able to go full dark, Brandon, I mean, those clips really resonate with the American people because it just shows just what a natural person he is. He's like, all right, y'all want to act crazy, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gaetz, bet. I'll let you. I'll let you. Go ahead.

Starting point is 01:26:12 Take the mic. Take it. Please. Please. But I'm going to go and I'm going to tell people exactly what you're doing. And he doesn't have to make anything up because it's beyond parity at this point, because what these ultra MAGA Republicans are doing is dangerous and just completely idiotic the Democratic Party on the planet. So that's why – it's funny because it goes full circle to what we were saying in the beginning, which is I want everyone to see these people. We need to be talking about it. We need to be exposing it.

Starting point is 01:26:55 And President Biden basically made the same exact point there, that the more people see her, the more they come to us. And it's true. It's true. It's true. It's true. And when you see Biden ad-lib like that, kind of be a little more off the cuff, unrestrained. I agree. It's the best.

Starting point is 01:27:10 And he also, just like Jamie Raskin in those clips, he has a way of really cutting deep with a smile. And that's such a skill. Ben kind of has that skill. You could cut deep, you could break some skin and do it while smiling at the person. And it's seeming like you're giving them a compliment. It's really powerful. But here's the thing. You mentioned Scott Perry. I'm not sure if that's a compliment. You mentioned Scott Perry. See, I just pulled it on Ben. He didn't even know it. He did it with a smile, so y'all have no idea you mentioned marjorie tallagreen you mentioned scott perry you mentioned rick scott but frankly you want to show me the roster you want to show me all the all these mega republic who lauren

Starting point is 01:27:57 bobert comer i mean the show could be three hours of just me going through each person's insanity. You know, who? Chip Roy? Who are we talking about other than Mitt Romney? Other than Mitt Romney that has integrity and decency right now? I'm sure there's perhaps some that just aren't out there speaking publicly because they're too afraid to, which I'm not sure if that just makes them equally complicit. And by the way, I disagree with Mitt Romney on a lot of issues as well, but I at least think he has the best interest of the country at heart. But if I'm

Starting point is 01:28:34 going through the ultra magas in the House of Representatives, who are we talking about that isn't like that? And then finally, I want to just talk about this, which is this Trump versus Fox feud now. See, one of the things that Trump realizes after, I think he knew before, but you see it so crystal clear, is how terrified Fox is of him. I mean, you literally have text messages from Tucker Carlson saying, Trump is the best destroyer that there is. I refuse to let him destroy me. So I'm going to spread lies. I'm going to spread disinformation. I know that the election wasn't stolen. I know that there was no fraud capable of overturning the election, but screw it. I don't want to lose viewers. I think Tucker says something about the stock price. Our stock

Starting point is 01:29:23 price is going to go down. So they're like, let's spread lies. And here's the thing. It's not like they wanted to tell the truth at their depositions, right? Just while this was happening, they are so privileged that they didn't even think that there could be any accountability. So they're text messaging. This stuff is in emails. This stuff is in text messages that Dominion got through Discovery. So even when you read the Rupert Murdoch depositions, it's not like Murdoch's like, yeah, we did it. He's trying to like duck and dodge it, but they just go back to the documents. So Murdoch has to admit that in the documents, he is admitting that any of the people who spread the big lie are liars and he knows that they're lying. And by the way, he says privately that, you know, I'd probably like if they told the truth,

Starting point is 01:30:19 but it's going to hurt our viewers. That's like direct communications, our viewership, that's direct communications with him and the CEO of Fox, Suzanne Scott. So when you watch it, he's trying to avoid telling the truth, but the Dominion lawyers who deserve so much credit here masterfully bring it right back to the documents, exactly what you're supposed to do in depositions and just show them the documents, admit it, admit it, admit it, admit it to the point where once you do that and then the person doesn't even know what documents you've had or what they've said, they then just start training their minds. Oh crap, I just better tell the truth because they're just going to pull out another doc that's going to show what I said. I don't even know what I said, so I'm just going to have to tell the truth. So that's the strategy that was being used.

Starting point is 01:31:06 And Murdoch just admitted it. But it's so interesting that what pisses Trump off is that Murdoch didn't just completely lie in the deposition, right? Like, it's not like this is new data that Murdoch is now saying now, right? The issue is, is that Murdoch and Fox are now platforming DeSantis. That's their new propaganda is trying to prop up DeSantis and not prop up Trump so that they can gain all the access and benefits and financial remuneration from DeSantis. So they are all in on DeSantis. They feel like they'll get all the benefits from him. And he's the type of person

Starting point is 01:31:42 who will play favorites and kind of anoint the Fox oligarchy. So that's what they are doing. And then these messages come out. And then so Donald Trump is basically saying to Murdoch, he goes, you are throwing you. One of the things he goes is that you're throwing your anchors under the table, which I think he means under the bus. But in this one, Rupert Murdoch, well, I think it's a Freudian slip too about like giving cash under the table or doing something shady. And then it's also under the bus and it makes no sense. But anyway, Rupert Murdoch should apologize to his viewers

Starting point is 01:32:17 and readers for his ridiculous defense of the 2020 presidential election. How many forms of cheating and rigging does he have to see? He should also apologize to those anchors who got it right and fire the ones who got it wrong or were afraid to speak up, of which there were many. It's time to get rid of fake news and call it like it is. And so he's really trying to create this division here between Murdoch and his anchors because he knows that that is what worked last time. And when he extorted Fox the last time and Fox was complicit in it for their viewers and their perceived ratings, that's how they then spread the big lie. So he's going all in on those same tactics. And here's the thing. and this, I think, makes this episode go full circle.

Starting point is 01:33:06 We need to live in a world of facts. That is why when we showed you what went down on the House floor and in these committee hearings, the MAGA Republican tactics in that format don't work. It works in the lobby of a hotel when you hold fake kangaroo court hearings like they tried to do, but it doesn't work in a court, right? It works at the Four Seasons car wash or whatever the hell that they did, right? But it doesn't work in the Fourth Circuit, right? It doesn't work when you have to be in an evidence-based system. And Donald Trump and all of the ultra magas had ample ability if there was actual evidence to prove their case. But yet they espouse the cultish indoctrinated concepts of no.

Starting point is 01:34:00 Every court, state court, Trump judges, everybody, the media, Trump's own lawyers, Trump's Department of Justice, Trump's FBI, everyone was part of a globalist rhino cabal and everybody, every single person anywhere covered it up. And Donald Trump, who's lied his entire life, who actually can show no affidavits, can actually show no actual evidence. They just have secret evidence that nobody knows about. And that's what they're using in support. And they're going to do it in front of the Four Seasons gas station across the street from the sex shop. And that's the truth, not what actually is presented in court in front of Trump judges,

Starting point is 01:34:40 in front of all different types of judges, which are rejected because there actually is no evidence. And it is so despicable and so disgusting when you see the state of all of what's going on right now in what used to be the Republican Party and is now ultra MAGA with Fox and these messages. They're all post-truth. They're all in the cult, and they're at various layers of fighting each other within the strange and bizarre and dangerous cult. So when I watch these Fox or I read these deposition transcripts of them knowing that they are lying to people, that they are calling their own followers and supporters effing lunatics, loons, kooky, all of these things, but that they need to keep the viewers so

Starting point is 01:35:24 they don't go to Newsmax. And then you see Donald Trump attacking Murdoch. And then you see DeSantis sending the cops or the store security on Donald Trump, whose cult supporters are going to book signings. I say this, that is not the America I love. And for far too long, large media networks have just ignored it. For far too long, the majority of people, decent people, people who love this country have just been exhausted and turned off by this whole process. That's why I call it the exhausted majority. It's a broad pro-democracy coalition, right? Of people who are really actually conservative, who aren't the

Starting point is 01:36:14 performative BS fascists. It's of independents. It's a people not affiliated with political parties. It's of Democrats. It's of liberals. It's of progressive. It's of people who are pro-democracy, who know that America isn't perfect, that there are improvements that are always needed. But we love our country. We love our constitution. And we don't just use slogans, America first, this and that. We show by our conduct each and every day that we do love our beautiful country and that we do want to make our beautiful country even better and that we do support democracy here and that we do support democracy abroad. So the exhausted majority is exhausted no longer. And that is the most important thing here about the Midas Touch community, about the Midas Mighty, about the pro-democracy community in general. And when I see

Starting point is 01:37:18 Democrats and pro-democracy members pushing back eloquently, intelligently, passionately, compassionately. I love it. I love it. And I want to make sure each and every one of you know that you are the solution. Don't wait for the magical force or this or that to fix it. You are the ones who can fix it. You are the solution. And you are the reason that the country has moved and the arc has moved in the right direction and that there was a victory for democracy in 2020 and that we did fend off a red wave during the midterms in 2022 and why we are going to win again in 2024. And when I say we, I don't mean a specific political party like when Fox uses the term we. I mean the United States of America.

Starting point is 01:38:14 Thank you, everybody, for watching this episode of the Midas Touch podcast. Jordy, Brett, any final words? I just said that was like an Al Pacino any given Sunday inch-by-inch speech right there. I want to run through a brick wall right now, Ben. Let's go. Brett's on mute.

Starting point is 01:38:28 I'm just going to shout us out if that's all right. Ben just does that straight from the dome. It's not like he had that written out. That was a beautiful speech, Ben. I think I bet everybody at this point is like, Ben, please run for president of the United States. But it's true. We are one part of this.

Starting point is 01:38:43 You are an essential part of this. So take what you hear in every episode, share this content, share the videos, do everything you can to spread the message. We are not limiting ourselves here to just Democrats, to just Republicans, to just independents. This is about all of us here, anybody who believes in normalcy. So let's get it done. Let's keep pushing. Let's keep fighting. Quick note for everybody out there. This is really exciting. This weekend on our Patreon Saturday morning, we are doing a Zoom. So no matter what tier you sign up for on our Patreon, as long as you do it by this Saturday, you'll be able to meet us live on a Zoom Q&A. We'll be taking questions for as long as we could go. Last time we went for three hours.

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