The MeidasTouch Podcast - Dr. Vin Gupta Addresses Major Concerns on Trump’s Health
Episode Date: January 2, 2026MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump’s rapidly deteriorating health as Trump lashed out in public as he claims his health is perfect and Meiselas speaks with MeidasHealth chief Dr.... Vin Gupta who gives his reaction and also gives great advice about what to do after Trump let the ACA subsidies expire. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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By now, I'm sure you know that Donald Trump did not look too good at that New Year's event.
He was not really walking in a steady fashion.
You saw he's kind of carrying that leg in a heavy way.
And we've seen that before.
I mean, the photos of him at this New Year's event also, you know, just not looking great.
He's been posting today on social media that he's passed more cognitive exams.
He's taking the Montreal cognitive exam again.
Did he take it again?
Is the doctor just keeps on telling him you keep passing it?
I'm not sure why he's saying this today.
You know, when we previously talked about it.
it, he's mentioned that he's passed this exam like three or four or five or six times,
and it's, you know, a measure of someone who's potentially incognitive decline and a serious
cognitive decline at that. This is not like a brag to pass this exam. It's the fact that you're
taking this exam so many times is concerning. Here's what he posted in the morning. The White
House doctors have just reported that I'm in perfect health and I aced, meaning was correct
on 100% of the questions asked for the third straight time. My cognitive examination, something which
no other president or previous vice president was willing to take P.S. I strongly believe that
anyone running needs to take this, he goes on to say, but he goes, my White House doctors have
just reported, as though this is some sort of breaking news that he was just told again. I mean,
he said that he got this back in April. He said that he got this back in October. He said that
he got this months before that on the campaign he talked about it. Towards the end of his first term,
he kept on mentioning it. You know, there is this term in medical,
literature called anisgnosia which is this denial of having dementia or denial of having
Alzheimer's again i don't know but it is people with Alzheimer's don't say hey i've got Alzheimer's
I've got dementia everybody you know look look at me you know I thought this video was was helpful
of a social worker who does deal with people whether they have Alzheimer's or dementia serious decline
let's just play it for a second frequently the person with dementia doesn't know they have dementia
their memory is fine.
There is nothing wrong with their thinking.
Everything is fine.
What are you talking about?
They are not even aware sometimes that they need physical help.
No, no, I can do this by myself.
I'm fine.
And then when you insist, they get angry.
But it's a very important one to remember
is that the person with a dementia
truly believes that there is nothing wrong.
And yes, they do remember what they had for breakfast.
and they certainly remember that they didn't have any breakfast,
even though you were the one that gave them breakfast and they ate it all.
And 50 minutes later, they're telling you, no, I didn't have breakfast.
Where's my breakfast?
Wall Street Journal just came out with an article,
as signs of aging emerge, Trump responds with defiance, strange headline right there.
But when you go into this article, I mean, it has a lot of things that are concerning.
Trump says that he bruises easily because he takes 325 milligrams of aspirin each day.
and has rejected his doctor's advice to take less.
They say aspirin is good for thinning out the blood.
I want nice, thin blood pouring through my heart, not thick blood.
I don't want that thick blood.
Does that make sense is what Donald Trump said to the Wall Street Journal?
He also says that some of the reason you see these bandages on his hand is,
this is a direct quote.
He applies makeup to his hands after he gets whacked again by someone.
I have makeup, and that's, you know, easy to put on.
It takes about 10 seconds.
I put it on when I get whacked again by someone.
When you get whacked again by someone, what is it even?
You get whacked at it.
He says that he's not sleeping on camera when we see him sleeping, but that's him blinking.
Sometimes they catch the blink.
He says, that's just the blink they catch.
Then in terms of his diet, they talk about him eating french fries, a McDonald's quarter pounder,
hamburger, Big Mac, and filet of fish, all in one sitting.
And there was another part here.
where Trump and his doctor in this journal article and then thereafter are saying that he didn't get an MRI,
but he got a preventative CT scan of the abdominal area.
Remember before they talked about advanced imaging and they said it was an MRI.
We heard clips from Caroline Levitt saying it's an MRI.
Trump says it's an MRI, it's an MRI, it's an MRI, it's an MRI, got an MRI.
Did you want me not to get the MRI?
It's an MRI.
People said, what part of the body?
He goes, I don't know.
But then they had a doctor's note that said abdominal advanced.
and now they're saying it's a CT scan.
None of this is making sense to me.
I want to bring in Dr. Van Gupta, who leads Midas Health
about all of this new data and new information.
Doctor, what do you make of this?
Well, you know, Ben, we've been talking about this now
for the last several weeks,
and I was stunned that the president's position,
just top line, wasn't clear on the type of advanced image
that he got.
What is the point of having a physician, a personal physician to the president of the United States if you don't know the tests that that person, the president's undergoing?
So the fact that, and that it's not hard in any way to confuse an MRI with a CT.
These are very different modalities.
One takes 45 minutes, in some cases, the other takes 45 seconds.
And so the fact that there's any confusion on the part of the president, much less his own.
physician really flies in the face of what they keep talking about, which is radical transparency.
You know, when you and I had this conversation a few weeks ago on December the 1st when they
issued that memorandum, I remember feeling very strongly then just released the actual report.
We don't want to summarize manicured note on their letterhead because it was hard to trust
that. And it proves that, actually the last four weeks it proves out that we were right to
question whether they're being totally transparent because they got a CT and an MRI supposedly
mixed up. On the substance of what was put in the Wall Street Journal report, a few things.
One, it never made sense that they released the results of an MRI of your torso arguing in
the doctor's letter on December 1st that somehow this is something you do for long-term prevention
or health prevention as you age. That's not true. Yes,
there's this fat of MRI's full body for those that can afford it, fine, let's just leave that
aside. Nobody gets an MRI just of the torso. And so when you and I had this conversation
for our listeners, the question was, are they just releasing the abdominal and cardiac findings
and somehow hiding other findings like what's happening in the brain, for example, just didn't
make sense. So now they're saying it's the CT, a cat scan of his heart and maybe of his abdomen,
Again, why are they getting this?
As we age, sometimes we get a CT of your coronary arteries, coronary calcium scan,
which he actually had in 2018, according to his prior doc, Ronnie Jackson.
And at the time, in 2018, there was some evidence of calcifications in his coronary arteries,
which is not abnormal as we age.
It pretty much happens to all of us.
Now suddenly it's completely normal.
That doesn't make a lot of sense.
One, two, his doctors are right to tell him that he shouldn't be using aspirin 325 milligrams every day.
They're correct.
It should be a baby aspirin every day if this is for prevention of, say, a stroke or a heart attack.
And so the fact that he's doing 325, there's no medical justification for that.
There's really very few indications for 325 of aspirin long term.
There are some childhood indications, some short-term indications for it in an adult say that might have had a heart.
attack or a cardiac procedure, you get 325 maybe for a few days at most, if not just a
one-time dose, and then quickly start 81. And yes, it can cause bruising. Absolutely can cause
skin bruising, 325 vasparin. But this notion that it causes some of these other potential
sort of bleeding of a skin when Pam Bondi gave him a handshake, that feels a little speculative
and a little unclear. I'll lastly say, so there's the issue with his imaging, how could they
possibly confuse or mix up CTMRI, and I look directly at his physician when I say that,
that is not something any personal physician should be confusing or misinforming the public
on, especially when it comes to the president's health. Disasperine issue doesn't make a lot of
sense, and his doctors are right on that to call him out. And then last, if you really look at his,
what they're sharing in this Wall Street Journal article about his cardiovascular health, he
doesn't exercise. He says he doesn't want to exercise because he finds it boring.
so he doesn't really do aerobic activity uh he walks on the golf course that's kind of the
most that he does and two he eats frequent hamburgers and french fries according to this
article which when if somebody has a personal chef as he does and he can eat anything in the
world that he so desires and that specific person is not relying on fast food and yet he's
eating uh something that one sitting with a hamburger and french fries that's 80 percent of your
sodium intake, up to 80% of your saturated fat intake just in one sitting, one meal, that's
not healthy.
So when you take together the aspirin dosing, the questions about his prior CT scan in 2018 versus
now his current CT scan, the fact that it was previously abnormal, now it's normal, doesn't
make a lot of sense.
And the fact that they're just obfuscating, I'm not surprised this causing everybody
to ask questions because they're creating these problems for themselves.
you know and then there's just the way that donald trump presents to the public you know when you go
through medical records as i did when i was a litigator the doctors also make observations how the
patient presents and their appearance like did they show up physically looking a certain way
and was their physical appearance in contrast to their words or were their words um you know steady
were they rambling how do they literally present during the checkup and when donald trump here
again, says that he doesn't know the difference between a CT and an MRI, or if it is an MRI,
he doesn't know which part of the body an MRI was performed on. And when Donald Trump goes and
says that my hand got whacked, it's whacked. That's not even, that's not a thing that exists,
what is it even referring to? Your hand gets whacked and then you need bandages. That's not a,
like he's not speaking in complete sentences. And so for me, I view this.
as totally non-political, and I just try to look at a sentence where I go, I don't think he's
speaking in sentences that have beginning, middle, and ends.
He's not completing thoughts, and that raises alarms just in it of itself, considering this is
a guy who has access to the nuclear codes.
You know, something that keeps coming up, and we've talked about this, and he keeps citing it,
is this constant passing of the Montreal cognitive assessment test, MOCA.
And just for everybody out there, this is not a test.
This is a screening tool for mild cognitive impairment.
Say, if you're having memory issues,
just sort of linear thought is difficult,
you're not able to kind of put basic thoughts together as we age.
This is something that we utilize in medicine all the time
for basic screening of mild cognitive impairment,
mild dementia, in other words.
He keeps talking about that.
And I think in doing so, he's confusing the public
because this is not a tool that the general public
should be utilizing with that level of frequency,
unless there's a reason to do it,
which is, in other words, to assess and monitor
the evolution of mild dementia or mild cognitive impairment.
If that's what he's been diagnosed with,
then sure, that's an indication to do these serial
tests, absolutely. But if he's not been diagnosed with that, or if they're trying to, again,
it's hard to know now what they're being transparent on since they're fundamentally walking back
CTMRI, these findings, hard to trust anything now from his personal physician. But especially now,
the question is, why does he keep citing this cognitive tool and the results from it? I suspect
he's doing it despite his doctor's best advice. This is where I'll get his doctors and his medical
teams back here is I'm sure many of them are saying, don't talk about this, or this is not
something that we're actually saying we want to administer with this level of frequency.
Perhaps this is him just doing what he thinks is best.
But it's not, again, the flex that he thinks it is.
Passing this assessment proves nothing.
It proves nothing.
And if anything, it raises more questions.
While I got you on here, I want to just change topics just briefly because there's so many of our
subscribers who are very worried right now that they haven't been able to afford a health care plan
on the Affordable Care Act exchanges. Now they don't have health care and they don't know what to do
or maybe they have a family member who's now been kicked off of their ACA plan because without
the subsidies they can't afford it. And I know we've gotten so many comments. What can we do? What can
we do? So what's your guidance to people right now who have been thrown off their health care plans
because of Trump and the Republicans are refusing to have this vote to extend the ACA subsidies.
No, Ben, thank you for that T.F, a critical topic.
And as you pointed out, we've gotten a lot of outreach from Midas Touch,
Midas Health View, listeners and viewers on, can we do something here to just put good information out?
As everybody knows, January 1st, first day where the lack of subsidies to make healthcare affordable
for those 24 million Americans who get their health insurance on the end.
affordable care act exchanges throughout the country. January 1st yesterday was that first day where these
prices are taking effect. These are having real world impacts on people and families. So what can you
do? If your health insurance premium now is unaffordable, in many cases, we think for at least
five million people, they're going to go uninsured, many more underinsured with the type of plan
that's going to be high deductible, will basically just cover catastrophic health care expenses,
but difficult to really forward anything else.
What should you do?
I should say none of these pieces of advice
substitute for federal action on just extending the subsidy.
So I hope that happens.
And I hope this guidance ultimately proves unnecessary,
but what can you do?
One, go to healthcare.gov.
If you're in this situation with unaffordable health care premiums,
you can still go to healthcare.gov.
It might seem counterintuitive,
but there's a special enrollment period
where you can look and compare for so-called bronze-level plans.
These are plans that tend to be high deductible,
are less generous in terms of what you can get,
but the premiums tend to be lower.
In some cases, the premiums for the bronze-level plans
will still exceed what somebody say in a silver-level plan got in 2025,
but it's something to at least look out for.
And you have 60 days after saying,
say you didn't really enroll in coverage.
is you have 60 days in the special enrollment period.
So through March 1st to switch to say a bronze level plan.
So that's something to consider.
One, you might be newly eligible for Medicaid then.
And so whenever there's a premium redetermination,
if premiums increase, people might now be newly eligible for Medicaid.
And I should emphasize Medicaid has a year-long enrollment period.
It's not open enrollment just for, say, six weeks.
towards the end of the year, which is typical of most health insurance plans, Medicaid,
you can enroll at any point in the year. So something to keep in mind, maybe you can actually
qualify for Medicaid, a question to ask your physician, your clinics, social worker,
if you don't know where to go, do you now qualify for Medicaid? Number three, federally qualified
health centers across the country, FQHCs, for short, and these are places, bedrocks of care
in communities across the country that essentially provide care to those on Medicaid,
those that are underinsured, those that have no insurance, and usually the price of that care
is tied to their ability to pay. The price of that care is tied to their ability to pay.
So if you haven't ever looked at an FQHC and you're in this position where their health insurance
has become unaffordable, perhaps now is the time to look to your federally qualified health
care center in your community. And there's usually one not far from where everybody that's
listening to us is living, go and consider that. And usually they tailor their fees to ability to
pay. So something to look at. And lastly, medications. I get a lot of questions, Ben, from folks
wondering, well, gosh, doc, I'm worried about my meds. What should I do about my meds? One thing you can do
is ask to switch from a 30-day refill on your meds, your chronic meds, your inhalers, your
blood pressure medications or diabetes medications to a 90 day.
That tends to actually save money, going from 30 to 90, so you can do that.
There's a lot of generic alternatives for branded inhalers on the pulmonologists.
Ask for a generic alternative, ask your prescriber, your medical provider.
Can they prescribe a generic that might do the same medical benefit as a branded medication?
And then usually, you know, I look at cost plus drugs.
I look at entities like Amazon Pharmacy.
These entities, Walmart, now have cash pay options that don't utilize insurance spend for chronic medications that tend to actually be lower for medications than somebody's co-pay.
So now actually circumnavigrating around your insurance and just paying cash for your blood pressure medications, your diabetes medications, your asthma inhaler.
Frankly, in many cases through Mark Cubans Cost Plus, Amazon pharmacy, Walmart, other entities like this can save you money than applying.
your insurance so something to consider i think all very important practical advice i mean it's uh shameful
that we're here where that advice has to be you know given but um it's it's stuff that people can really
take with them into the new year and um and and and and implement in their day to day life
dr vin goopta thanks for sharing all your knowledge thanks for leading midas health we appreciate
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