The MeidasTouch Podcast - Federal Judge Instantly SHUTS DOWN Trump TALKING POINTS to Defendant’s FACE
Episode Date: December 16, 2023MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on a federal court hearing in a separate criminal case that took place while the jury was deliberating in the Rudy Giuliani defamation case where Federal Judge Be...ryl Howell shut down the absurd argument by a defense lawyer who tried to bring Donald Trump’s big lie propaganda into her court room. Go to https://Hellotushy.com/meidas and use promo code MEIDAS for 15% off all bidets! Visit https://meidastouch.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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them into a court of law where evidence matters?
Well, this is what happens.
I'm Ben Micellis.
This is the Midas Touch Network.
So on Friday, before the verdict in the Rudy
Giuliani defamation case, the judge presiding over that case has a docket of other cases. The judge
in that case was federal judge Beryl Howell. She was previously the chief judge, like the top judge,
top federal judge in the Washington DC district court. And in addition to hearing the Giuliani case,
she hears other cases throughout the day. So while the jury was deliberating there,
another January 6th case came before her. And the lawyers for the insurrectionist,
one by the name of John Pierce, tried to make this argument that the MAGA Republicans
on Congress keep spreading is that January 6th was an inside job
and that therefore this criminal defendant
who was on trial in this case
before federal judge Beryl Howell
needed more documents and discovery on ghost buses,
ghost buses.
And this is what these MAGA Republican members of Congress
and the House of Representatives state that
these buses were actually driving all these members of the FBI who were really involved
in the insurrection because the MAGA Republicans say that it was a Fed-surrection, not actually
an insurrection.
It was actually caused by the FBI and the FBI is to blame.
That's a completely deranged and utterly ridiculous conspiracy that
is so far-fetched that it's like a flat earther thing. And that's basically what Judge Beryl
Howell said when she was presented with this. Judge Beryl Howell said, what, ghost buses?
What is this nonsense that you're talking about? She goes to the defense lawyer. Why is it called
a ghost bus? What are you even talking about, counsel? We are not going down this rabbit hole
in this case. A ghost bus? She goes, did you come up with that yourself, counsel? And then the
defense lawyer, John Pierce, says, I think ghost buses, your honor, is a Clay Higgins term, Congress member
Clay Higgins.
And then Judge Beryl Howell goes, who?
Who are you?
Who are you talking about?
And then Judge Beryl Howell goes, what is, is this like some political weirdness?
I'm not going to waste time.
I'm not going to waste the court time on some weirdly described things.
I'm not wasting the court's time on this weirdness.
As one court observer who was there also said, I wish you could see the face right now that
Judge Beryl Howell was making.
Jordan Fisher wrote, I wish I could accurately describe the faces Judge Howell is making right now as the defense
lawyer for the January 6th insurrectionist is trying to explain his colleagues' request
to get more info from the government about their ghost bus theory, about their ghost
bus theory.
And this is all coming from the MAGA Republicans on Capitol Hill.
Specifically, as I just mentioned, the lawyers cited Clay Higgins, one of the MAGA Republicans
who spreads these deranged lies about ghost buses. Well, here's an interview. This is as
the federal judge Beryl Howell would call it, the political weirdness. This is Clay Higgins from an interview from this past week.
Play the clip.
But they're going down, these men, and their high perch, and their position of power and
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They're not going to get away with it.
They have so far.
We'll see.
Powerful people in this country, they want to make sure no one hears your voice.
They want everyone to look at you like a far-right, crazy conspiracy theorist.
Is that who you are?
No, ma'am. I'm a regular American man.
More on Clay Higgins in a moment. But here is Clay Higgins when he was questioning,
if you even want to call it that, the FBI director, Christopher Wray, the current FBI director.
Mind you, Christopher Wray, the FBI director, is a Republican.
Rose up the ranks, was in the George W. Bush administration, was a federal prosecutor,
was appointed by Donald Trump.
Christopher Wray has been a Republican his whole life, appointed by Donald Trump.
Yet he is now blamed by MAGA and Donald Trump for overseeing the FBI, which
they lie about and say caused the insurrection.
They were the actual insurrectionists, and it was a Fed-surrection.
Watch this questioning as Christopher Wray gets questioned by Clay Higgins, and Wray's
like, what?
A ghost bus?
What are you talking about? A ghost bus? What?
Here, play this clip. Director Ray, last year, you might recall, sir, our exchange regarding the FBI's
involvement on January 6th and prior. I'm happy to jog your memory to quote, according to the
record, I asked you, did you have confidential human
sources dressed as Trump supporters positioned inside the Capitol on January 6th prior to the
doors being opened? You responded, I quote, again, I have to be very careful of what I say,
to which I said, it should be a no. Can you not tell the American people no?
We did not have confidential human sources
dressed as Trump supporters
positioned inside the Capitol on January 6th.
A year has passed.
We sit here again a year later.
We the people still do not have a definitive answer from you or anyone else in the Biden administration
regarding the FBI presence and participation in the months leading up to the November election
and in the weeks and days prior to January 6th and on January 6th here in D.C.
We can't get a straight answer, although we have a tremendous amount of evidence harvested and reviewed over the course of the last year, which you will see.
In September, Stephen D'Artano, formerly in charge of the FBI's field office in Washington, D.C., testified to the House Judiciary Committee that he was aware the FBI informants would attend the Stop the Steal rally thrown on January 6th.
You confirmed that the FBI had confidential human sources at the Stop the Steal rally on January 6th here in D.C., sir?
Congressman, as we've discussed before,
I'm not going to get into where we have or have not used confidential human sources, but what I can tell you...
Okay, we'll move on.
You asked for a definitive answer.
We'll move on. It's my time.
You said no, you're not going to answer.
That's cool. We're watching.
Mr. Chairman, may I answer the question?
The moment will come. This is my time.
Earlier this year, an FBI informant who is reported to have, quote, his quote, under oath, marched to the U.S. Capitol with fellow Proud Boys members on January 6th.
Close quote. He said he was communicating with his FBI handler while people
were entering the U.S. Capitol. Can you confirm that the FBI had that sort of engagement with
your own agents embedded within to the crowd on January 6th? If you are asking whether the
violence at the Capitol on January 6th was part of some operation orchestrated by FBI sources and or agents, the answer is emphatically no.
You're saying no?
No.
You're saying no?
Not violence orchestrated by FBI sources or agents.
Are you familiar with, you know what a ghost vehicle is?
Director, you're a director of the FBI, you certainly should.
You know what a ghost bus is? A ghost bus? Ghost director of the FBI. You certainly should. You know what a ghost bus is?
A ghost bus?
Ghost bus.
I'm not sure I've used that term before.
Okay.
It's pretty common in law enforcement.
It's a vehicle that's used for secret purposes.
It's painted over.
These two buses in the middle here,
they were the first to arrive
at Union Station on January 6th, 0500. I have all this evidence. I'm showing you a tip of this
iceberg. Mr. Chairman. These two buses are painted completely white. Point of order.
Point of order. Sure. Just run over the time. I understand, but you'll recall that Ms. Jackson
Lee's been allowed to go two minutes before. I've been very fair in letting people finish their questioning throughout my
tenure as chairman, and I'll continue to be fair on that regard. But I will make a note to the
members, if you could stay as close within your time as possible, we have a lot of people that
want to ask these gentlemen questions. So with that, the gentleman yields. But your point,
I've been very fair in this, Mr. Ivey,
with everybody on this side of the aisle just as much. I don't think I accused you of
being unfair, Mr. Chairman. You're making a point. Okay, thank you. I now recognize
Mr. Gray. May I close this statement, Mr. Chairman? No, I think your time is
expired. I note that other members across the aisle have been granted time, and I object to my question being closed.
This is a very significant hearing, Mr. Chairman, and these buses are nefarious in nature and were filled with FBI informants dressed as Trump supporters.
Deploy it onto our Capitol on January 6th.
Your day is coming, Mr. Wright.
Major point, Mr. Higgins.
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background, just so you all know who this individual was. Served in various police
departments, but resigned before he faced discipline for excessive force and other
violations. The way he kind of rose to MAGA fame is he would make these videos of himself with this
kind of tough guy act, you know, the kind of this kind of threatening persona, but was never really
able to hold a job as a police officer because of all the misconduct he would engage in. And then
right before he would be terminated, he would resign. Here's
one of those videos that he made. And this is kind of how he rose in the ranks of kind of the
MAGA world. Play this clip. You think men like these are afraid of an uneducated 125 pound punk
like you? That's never won a fair fight in your life and hold your gun sideways. Young man,
I'll meet you on solid ground anytime, anywhere,
light or heavy, makes no difference to me. And by the way, this is how you rise in MAGA world.
So for example, this MAGA Republican Congresswoman, Anna Paulina Luna,
if you can, like these are the photos that she would kind of cosplay herself as, and this was the image that she cultivated for herself, and that's what appealed to MAGA.
I mean, meanwhile, you have the Democratic members of Congress who usually come to Congress not as a kind of a cosplay whatever, like they usually have backgrounds as being former federal prosecutors, as top lawyers,
as having prior successful careers. But for like MAGA Republicans, it's all this, you know,
routine right here. I want to show you this though, because I talked about Judge Beryl Howell,
no nonsense law and order judge. And Judge Beryl Howell, again, previously the chief judge of all district court judges in
Washington, D.C., but Elise Stefanik, who is supposed to be more of a moderate person,
but she really isn't because she has to fit in with MAGA. She's a MAGA Republican in the
leadership in the Republican Party. She sent a letter to the judicial, she filed a judicial complaint against Judge Beryl
Howell to the Judicial Council. Here's the letter, December 15th, 2023. And this is what
Elise Stefanik's been doing over and over again for Donald Trump and in order to help the
insurrectionists. I mean, this is what the MAGA Republicans care about.
You may recall that Elise Stefanik previously sent a letter and made a judicial complaint
against Justice Arthur Ngoran, the judge in New York overseeing the New York Attorney
General civil fraud case.
She brought that letter.
She filed that judicial complaint against Justice N'Goran on
November 10th, 2023 on Donald Trump's behalf. And then once again, she's just filed another
judicial complaint on Donald Trump's behalf against the renowned Judge Beryl Howell.
And what she's complaining about with Judge Beryl Howell is that on November 27th, 2023, Judge Howell and a current Biden
Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco received an award, the Champions Award at the Women's
White Collar Defense Association ceremony in Washington, D.C., which is a significant award, and it's promoting successful women
litigators, successful women in white-collar practice.
And so they received an award from this very renowned and prominent bipartisan state bar
association.
And here was the speech that Judge Beryl Howell gave. And this is what the
complaint is about. This is what Judge Beryl Howell said during the speech at that event on
November 27th. And this is why Elise Stefanik is writing a judicial complaint against Judge
Beryl Howell. My DC judicial colleagues and I regularly see the impact of big lies at the sentencing of hundreds,
hundreds of individuals who have been convicted for offenses committed on January 6, 2021,
when they disrupted the certification of the 2020 presidential election at the U.S. Capitol.
Goes on to say, we are having a very surprising and downright troubling moment in this country when the very importance of facts is dismissed,
Howell told the annual gala of the Women's White Collar Defense Association
at a downtown hotel.
That's very, she says, that's very risky business for all of us in our democracy.
The facts matter.
And then it goes on to say, I mean, Judge Howell's fuller quote is this line. She goes on to say, roads teetering on the brink of authoritarianism. And she echoes this thought in her closing line
that we are at a time of testing and how it comes out is in our own hands. So on that basis,
Elise Stefanik, MAGA Republican, is seeking the judicial oversight, which they're not going to do
anything, but she's writing this letter and issuing this formal complaint against Judge Beryl Howell.
That's how the MAGA Republican Congress members are spending their time cosplaying, coming
up with deranged conspiracies like ghost buses, and then attacking law and order judges who
stand up for democracy and follow the law.
It is a very sad time in our country's history
that that is all taking place.
I'll show you this clip of Elise Stefanik right here.
And this is where Elise Stefanik was asked a question
about the impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden,
which is not based on facts.
And Elise Stefanik gives a roaring support of Donald Trump here. Play this
clip. I'm wondering, comments from Elise Stefanik, you supported him during his campaign. Do you
regret supporting him? Do you regret his introducing the donors and fundraising for him
now that he's admitted to many of these laws? Sure. Like all of my colleagues, particularly in New York State, I supported George Santos as the nominee,
and the people of his district voted to elect him.
Now, we just got out of conference, and George has voluntarily removed himself from committees as he goes through this process.
But ultimately, voters decide.
And I'm very proud that
in New York State, we flipped five districts to help deliver us the majority. And ultimately,
voters make this decision about who they elect to Congress. Again, this process is going to play
itself out. I've already commented on this numerous times. And again, it's going to play
itself out. But ultimately, voters are going to make that decision, whether it's in the primary election or in the general election. Thank you. So folks, that is the modern day
MAGA Republican Party for you. And just as a timeline cleanser or YouTube cleanser, if you will,
right here, I want to show you my interview portion of it with Congress member Jared Moskowitz.
And you'll see when I asked Congressman Moskowitz
about the utter weirdness and just talking about political weirdness from the outset of this video,
the weirdness and the grift of MAGA and Donald Trump. And now he's selling NFTs. And if you buy
47 NFTs, he'll cut off a piece of his suit and he'll sell it. He'll give you a piece of the
suit that he wore during the, when his mugshot was taken he's so absurd here play the clue you talk about silly season but this is this is some next level stuff
you and i both went to george washington we're familiar with capital l but this is some next
level weird stuff you've got donald trump if you buy congressman 47 trump nfts he cuts off a little
piece of his suit and he will sell you the piece of his suit
with a commemorative card. And he made a video about that Donald Trump did, that he's selling
this to the people like this. Could you imagine for a second if you or President Biden or anybody,
this is just embarrassing stuff, huh? Oh, listen, I expect him to start selling
Ivana Trump's tombstone.
You'll be able to write a little signature
on her tombstone for $10,000.
You too could have something on Ivana Trump's tombstone
at my golf course.
My beautiful golf course buried her on hole seven.
She looks great.
This is literally what we're gonna get ourselves back into
if we elect him again.
Okay, it is just, it's unexplainable
how people are just drawn to this guy.
I mean, he's a televangelist president, right?
I mean, he's the best QVC blender salesman we've ever had.
Okay, and you know, look, would you like the lapel? We'll cut off the little lapel part of the suit. He's the best QVC blender salesman we've ever had. Okay.
And, you know, look, would you like the lapel?
We'll cut off the lapel part of the suit.
Two grand.
And you can have the lapel part.
And someone right now is going, honey, get the Apple Pay.
I'm going to get the lapel.
The same person complaining about the economy is saying, hey, it's a tough economy. However, I'm going to spend the $2,000 to buy the lapel.
So make decisions for yourself, folks.
Do we care about facts?
Do we care about intelligence?
Do we care about the law?
Or are we going down this MAGA Republican rabbit hole, which will be very dangerous for us all?
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