The MeidasTouch Podcast - Financial Monitor FINDING is BIG TROUBLE for Trump
Episode Date: January 29, 2024MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas does a deep dive on retired federal judge Barbara Jones’ report to NY Justice Arthur Engoron in the Trump civil fraud case where she identified a $48 million phantom lo...an which may be an unlawful debt parking scheme. Thanks to HumanN: Go to meidasbeets.com for a free 30-day supply of SuperBeets Heart Chews and a FREE full-sized bag of turmeric chews valued at $25! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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As we dig deeper into retired federal judge Barbara Jones's letter to Justice Arthur Ngoron
in the New York Attorney General's civil fraud case from last week, it becomes apparent that
she's actually provided a roadmap to both Justice Arthur Ngoron and the New York Attorney General's
office that there is additional fraud that needs to be looked into, serious additional fraud. Now,
we've previously have done a hot take on Judge Barbara Jones's letter in general, where she finds
that through her participation as an independent financial monitor, first appointed in November of
2022, during the 14 months where she has been reviewing the Trump
organization and preparing interim reports. She's found that there's been a lack of transparency.
She's found inconsistent reporting, improper reporting, and errors. She makes clear in her
letter that it is not her job as an independent financial monitor to adjudicate any of these things or to go
any further than flagging these issues. It's for the judge and the New York Attorney General to
take further action. But she addresses some serious, serious things. But the most serious
thing that I've seen in her letter is actually in a footnote and it seems to be an unlawful
debt parking scheme that Donald Trump tried to perpetuate for a very long period of time where
once loans were forgiven on the Chicago Tower after he was in risk of default, after he filed all these lawsuits
against the lenders like Deutsche Bank and others, he put a large sum of money, purportedly
acquired this debt so that he would not have to pay taxes on the debt forgiveness, debt that's
forgiven. You have to pay taxes on it as though
it was income. So Donald Trump filed these lawsuits against his lenders, got them to forgive
the debt that he had owed, and then created this other entity to seemingly pretend that he was
holding the debt that was forgiven because otherwise he would have had to pay taxes on it
and he created this entity called Chicago Unit Acquisitions where he has been reporting that
that's been holding 48 or 50 million dollars when it seems that it actually has no money at all.
Let's just take a look at the footnote, but that's kind of what seems to be
taking place here. Now, this idea of debt parking where debt is forgiven, but you remove the debt
and place it in an entity, but pay the debt back, that's actually allowed, but where it's phantom
debt, it doesn't exist, then it becomes unlawful, and it seems like that's what's taking place here. That could
clearly be subject to another New York Attorney General civil fraud case. It's criminal as well,
if it is demonstrated that that's what's taken place. And again, I could only kind of read the
letter here and kind of piece these things together. I would need more information to
fully formulate that conclusion, but there's a persuasive argument to be made. And I encourage
those who watch this who are tax specialists to chime in on the comments below as well.
So here's the letter from Judge Barbara Jones. Here's footnote number six.
It says, of particular note, I discussed the springing loan.
Again, this is a letter from retired federal Barbara Jones.
She's appointed as an independent financial monitor to review the Trump organization's
finances.
She did that for 14 months.
This is her report.
This is in her report.
Of particular note, I discussed the
springing loan previously disclosed as being between Donald J. Trump individually and Chicago
unit acquisitions, an entity related to the Trump Chicago Tower with the Trump organization several
times. When I inquired about this loan, I was informed that there are no loan
agreements that memorialize the loan, but that it was a loan believed to be between Donald J. Trump
individually and Chicago unit acquisitions for $48 million. However, in recent discussions with
the Trump organization, it indicated that it has determined that this loan never existed,
and thus it would be removed from any upcoming forms submitted to the Office of Government Ethics
and would also be removed from subsequent versions of the MAML. MAML stands for Material
Assets and Material Liabilities. So just what is a springing loan? Sometimes it's referred to as a bad boy loan
when certain borrowers have demonstrated a history
of defaulting on their loans.
You may want to have some punitive measures in their loans.
They're not great loan terms.
There's acceleration clauses, usually higher interest,
but these are loans for bad borrowers or borrowers that have high risk, we'll say.
But here's the interesting thing.
The lender here, Chicago Unit Acquisitions, is owned by Donald J. Trump, loaning money to himself, purportedly Donald J. Trump in the amount
of $48 million structuring it as a springing loan.
So categorizing himself or characterizing himself as a bad borrower, by the way, which
he is, but that's how he's characterizing himself. So there
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government ethics reports that Donald Trump had to file while he was in office. And you can look at any of them, but just take this one, for example,
that was filed in 2020.
Here's the form.
You go and you look at Chicago unit acquisitions.
Look, 100% ownership Donald Trump has.
If you look at Chicago unit acquisitions,
name, DJT Holdings LLC, role member.
Role, Donald Trump's a member, so he has 100% ownership of that entity right there.
And then if you go and look at the liability, so he's an owner, 100% owner of this Chicago
Unit Acquisitions LLC.
And then you go look at the section on Trump's financials that talk about liabilities.
And let's take a look at Chicago Unit Acquisitions LLC.
There it is.
You can see it right there.
It's line 11.
THT Chicago springing loan over $50 million year incurred 2012.
And it's described as prime plus 5%, and its term is considered a
springing loan term. So now you take that information and you go back and you look at
what it is in that footnote right there and what the footnote says. So the footnote says,
once again, talks about the following.
Of particular note, I discussed the springing loan previously disclosed as being between
Donald J. Trump individually and Chicago Unit Acquisitions, an entity related to Trump Chicago.
So now you know that Trump owns Chicago Unit Acquisitions 100% and did a loan with himself,
with the Trump organization,
several times.
When I inquired about this loan, I was informed there are no loan agreements that memorialize
the loan, but that it was a loan believed to be between Donald J. Trump individually
and Chicago Union Acquisitions for $48 million.
And by the way, they may be misrepresenting that number to Judge Barbara Jones because
I just showed you on the financial statements, they claim that that loan is over $50 million.
However, in recent discussions with the Trump organization, it indicated that it determined
this loan never existed, that this loan never existed.
By the way, there are forms here of the Chicago unit acquisition.
We take a look right here.
Here's the LLC form that was filed on November 15, 2019.
Limited liability company, Chicago unit acquisitions.
Let's take a look at the address of its place of business.
Oh, look, it's 725 Fifth Avenue and Allen Weisselberg.
So it's Trump Tower. Allen Weisselberg.
So it's Trump Tower.
Allen Weisselberg is the vice president who's signing these business forms on behalf of this entity.
So what in the world is going on here?
Let's take a look at what Mother Jones had to write in 2019 as we piece this together.
Donald Trump has never explained a mysterious
$50 million loan. Is it evidence of tax fraud? A Mother Jones investigation has uncovered new
information about a puzzling Trump deal. And this is from 2019. And here's what Mother Jones found
in 2019. It says, Donald Trump's massive debts, he owes hundreds of millions of
dollars, are the subject of continuous congressional scrutiny. But for years, one Trump loan has been
particularly mystifying, a debt of more than $50 million that Trump claims he owes to one of his
companies. According to tax and financial experts, the loan, which Trump has never fully explained,
might be part of a controversial tax avoidance scheme known as debt parking.
So here is what we know about this loan.
We've talked about what a springing loan is and how it's being characterized there. And when Donald Trump was trying to finance
the Chicago Trump skyscraper, the majority of the hotel was bankrolled by Trump's lender of choice,
Deutsche Bank. But a significant amount of money was also contributed by Fortress Investment Groups, which provided an additional $130 million in financing.
Trump's Chicago project quickly became a financial debacle.
So then Donald Trump started suing everybody, which is what he does.
He then reached a, you know, to try to avoid defaulting, he then reached a settlement agreement
with all of the parties and a lot of the debt was forgiven. So Donald Trump bullied, sued
Deutsche and all of these lenders that gave him the money to build the Trump skyscraper in Chicago. Rather than pay back the money,
he sued them. He used the financial crisis as a way to claim that they were at fault for the
financial crisis and that they defrauded him. He reached a settlement agreement with them
where they basically forgave a huge amount of the loan that they gave to him.
And because he got the benefit of the loan to build the skyscraper, what the IRS says
is that if someone's going to forgive all of this loan that you owe them, that could
be treated as income and you would then have to pay
income tax on it. Unless you could try to come up with this tax avoidance scheme and there's
a legal but controversial way to do it, debt parking, where rather than have the debt forgiven,
you acquire that debt from Deutsche Bank or from Fortress. You put it and park it in some LLC, but you pay
it off. You have to pay off the debt. It has to be a legitimate transaction. You can't just park
it in a self-controlled LLC and then do nothing with it. It has to actually exist so that there's
a taxable event at some point in time. But here, that doesn't seem to be what took place because
as Judge Barbara Jones is showing, seems like that never even took place. So what seems like
actually happened here is that Deutsche Bank and Fortress, as part of this settlement agreement,
forgave the debt or a significant portion of the
debt, entered into a settlement agreement. Then Donald Trump created this Chicago unit acquisition
and claimed that it had been holding this debt, that it was parking this debt, and it was going
to service this own debt in an arm's length way that it was
legitimate that it actually but it seems like it didn't do that at all that it never acquired the
debt the debt was forgiven the Deutsche Bank and Fortress were never seeking it anymore but then
Trump was claiming to have acquired it if since it's claiming it doesn't exist, so that he didn't have to pay taxes
on that amount.
And then he could kind of further avoid taxes, potentially, if he's calling this a springing
loan and claiming that these terms here are incredibly punitive and setting high, you
know, whatever the interest rates are.
And then he could be trying to claim other deductions based on the nature of the springing loan on his other taxes. So by
characterizing it as a springing loan, when there's no loan that even seems to be existing
in the first place, he's double and triple dipping in what seems to be this scheme, if you will.
So that's why, if you look at what Judge Barbara Jones is saying here,
it has these more profound implications.
Now, of course, I think that Judge N'Goran is going to issue a ruling for $370 to $500 million,
and that's going to be the headline. But look at this. This Judge Jones
letter is going to find its way into Justice and Goran's ruling in a big way. And here's what Judge
Jones says also. Look, my duties include reporting any unusual and suspicious activities, she says. But she goes that I'm not in a position, though,
to, like, it's not her position
to conclude whether fraudulent activity occurred.
That's your job, Judge.
That's your job, New York Attorney General.
I'm just flagging the suspicious stuff for you
and giving you a roadmap.
And by the way, folks, I hope you understand now
what that Chicago unit acquisitions
LLC, why it's so shady and how Trump seems to have engaged in this debt parking scheme,
which may be improper. And it certainly seems to be, doesn't seem like the loan even existed in
the first place that it was never even acquired. Chicago unit acquisitions, this deal between Trump and Trump
seems to be riddled with problems.
I'm Ben Micellis from the Midas Touch Network.
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