The MeidasTouch Podcast - Fox Gets Broken on Live TV as Trump Gets Outplayed

Episode Date: June 12, 2025

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Fox News literally breaking on air as Trump gets outmaneuvered by California Governor Gavin Newsom and the pro-democracy forces. Don’t wait until the next bite—protect your home with Bzigo. Go to https://bzigo.com/discount/MEIDAS to save 10% off. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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known as Fox was. I think California governor Gavin Newsom literally broke Fox because the whole day yesterday, you had like Fox propagandists like Jesse Water saying, so what, governor Newsom's calling Donald Trump a strong man? Isn't that a compliment? Strong man, that's a good thing, like being super strong.

Watch what Fox propagandist Jesse Watters says here, play this clip. So he's calling him a strong man. I think that's a compliment for Donald Trump. I hear strong man. The guy's in a bunker like Biden with a prerecorded video. Oh, this is an attack on democracy. They're really going to go with a dictator hoax.

They got more desperate than that. And you had Jesse Waters go, you know, you know what? Because of what Newsom said, I think Trump should go harder. He needs to break the break the back of these people break the back of these ice resistance or here play this these ICE resistancers. Here, play this clip. Maybe the crazy base on the left thinks it's good because they love to see the country burn, but it's not good. These illegals, Jessica, think they're living in Mexico. They're waving the Mexican flag.

They don't like America. They love living in LA because LA is great. It's nicer than Mexico and you get free housing, free healthcare, free food. They don't even lay a finger on you. That's the problem here. They think they own the country, they don't respect the laws, and they don't respect the law enforcement.

I think Trump should go harder. He needs to break the back of this ice resistance and make sure everybody understands that this thing's not going to slow down. You can't be held hostage in your own country by foreigners because that's what this is. It's an extortion attempt. Every time you try to enforce the law, we're going to burn stuff. That's not how it works. And then I love this where you have the only pro-democracy voice on Fox, Jessica Tarlov

on that show, The Five. She does a great job. I'm a big fan of Tarlov. And she goes, you do realize, Jesse, that Gavin Newsom is speaking to the majority of Americans. You saw the recent Quinnipiac poll, which has Donald Trump at a negative 12 approval or a negative 11 approval on, total approval of Trump negative 12,

negative 11 on immigration, negative 16 on deportation. Watch Tarlov put him in his place. Gavin Newsom is speaking for a majority of Americans right before we came on air. There was a new Quinnipiac poll that was released. So Donald Trump negative 12 on approval in general, negative 11 on immigration and negative 16 on deportations. He has taken his best issue and decimated it by making these deportations in a hasty way. It used to be go after the criminals.

That's what we heard was going to happen. Now it's go to the nail salons, go to the job sites, go to birthday parties, go to immigration courts. There is now no right way to do it. There is no way to be part of the system, pay your taxes, make a better life for your family and hopefully get citizenship. Stephen Miller is mad because they were deporting

less people on a daily basis than Joe Biden was. So he went and he said, go to 7-Eleven and you go to Home Depot. And now Americans and illegals who, yes, they're here illegally are living in fear of what the government is trying to do. And just one more thing, the GOP caucus, like Valadao, Gonzalez, representatives, they know that this is bad. Valadao saying, please prioritize removal of known criminals. Gonzalez, focus on convicted criminals, not farm laborers. Okay, so then Jesse Waters comes back and he's like, I'm not a moron. I'm not stupid. I'm not a moron. Play this clip.

I just use one of these little scissors. I'm very dexterous. How do you know what a cuticle is, Brett? Ask me, I'll not stupid. I'm not a moron. Play this clip. I just use one of these little scissors. I'm very dexterous. How do you know what a cuticle is? Brett asked me to ask you. A cuticle is the part of the nail that meets the skin. Okay? I'm not a moron, Jessica, despite what I sound like. This is how you know California Governor Newsom and the majority of Americans, the pro-democracy forces who have now woken up how they're winning this debate. So then Jesse Waters and then Fox, they have to pivot. What are we going to talk about?

What do we talk about? Simone Biles. Let's talk about Simone Biles apologizing to Riley Gaines, this stupid dispute that Fox has been manufacturing and talking about. Simon, Simone Biles, that's what we talk about. Let's focus on Simone Biles. Like there's about to be a major war in the Middle East. Donald Trump has destroyed American economy. But let's talk about Simone Biles here, play this clip. First of all, is it ever a good idea to get in the middle of two women having a conversation like this? No, no. That's why I just want to lay back and hope she trains for LA.

If we start messing with her head, she's mentally weak. Remember the one time she, we have to make sure she metals. Okay. So I'm going to lay off her, but I will say this. She pulled a knee log. Oh, I'm sorry for some of the things I said. Come on. You remember the days when PR teams would have to like walk back something that you said that was based. Now they walk back when you say stuff woke. I love it.

We are so back right now. This shows the power of Fox to this woman. Riley Gaines did the full kill meeting. I think maybe six shows and 48 hours and just put so much pressure on Simone. And by the way, that's what they were talking about a lot in the day. Let's focus on Simone Biles. You know what? Let's bring on Riley Gaines.

They bring on freaking Riley Gaines. I don't even understand this dispute. Riley Gaines pretends that she's like a champion athlete. I think she came in like fifth place. Simone Biles is a gold medalist over and over again. And then they bring on Riley Gaines. I guess this is the mentality of Fox to like attack the gold medalists and support people who are not like first, second, I guess,

or even third. And then like, you are an American hero, Riley. You're an American hero, an American hero. And by the way, I don't even want to really learn about what this dispute is even about because There are ICE agents who are going into factories and schools and courthouses and Restaurants and disappearing people we have the Trump regime tariffing the world We have Donald Trump holding a military parade for himself. I think there may be more important things

than what Riley Gaines is, whoever this even is, is mad about. But, okay, sure, play this clip. I just wanted to say you're a hero for young women, women, but also for men. You're an American hero. That's right. And I'm glad to be on the couch with you today. Well, thank you, Charles. That's very sweet.

That's right. And definitely, I know we all grew up with posters of athletes on our wall, and you'd be my athlete on the wall for sure. Continued champion. But okay, Riley, tell us. Tell us how you really feel. I think a lot of people took issue with the fact. People took issue? There's real issues taking place? I don't think this is one of them, play this clip.

What do you think the message is now that she has shaped for these young women that used to look up to her? I think the thing a lot of people took issue with is of course the body shaming portion of this where she's referring to me as someone with a male stature. First of all I'm five foot five. I wouldn't say that's overly tall for a woman. Maybe compared to someone who's four foot eight, that might seem like a giant. But to most women, that's relatively standard. I'm about 130, 135 pounds. Not overly big. Yes, I'm muscular. I think that's part of being an athlete. And if anyone would understand that, you would imagine it would be Simone Biles. Because I'm telling you, Fox wants to distract and trap people to talk about penises and

vaginas. Like, are you trans? Are you straight? Are you gay? Are you this or that? What are you even talking about? These Fox hosts, they wake up every day and y'all are weird if this is what you're thinking about every day.

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So then Fox, then Fox talks about the Trump's disastrous trade deals because we're what we're approaching the 90 deals in 90 days and he's done zero deals in 90 days. And then they did this embarrassing like not a deal, it's not an agreement. They called a framework with China in London, right? So back in May, the United States cave to China and reduced tariffs from 145% to 30%. Then China reduced its tariffs from 125% to 10%. And they called that a consensus. So then they said they were going to agree to have talks.

So then they talked in London over the past few days and then they said, we've agreed to a framework to implement the consensus, a framework to implement the consensus, and then watch Ingram talk to Howard Lutnick about what this is. And he's like, we ate chicken. We ordered fried chicken. These are the most unserious, excuse me, I don't mean to name call like pathetic and dumb and disingenuous people here play this clip. But I want you to know for lunch, for lunch, we had British pizza and they ordered Kentucky fried chicken. So Mr. Secretary, after spending this time with them, you trust them, you trust them?

I think the way it works with the Chinese is you have to respect them. You have to respect them and it has to be a win-win. But the answer is when you send us magnets, we'll remove our countermeasures. It balanced, that's what Donald Trump said. That's what we're going to do. So I have confidence this is gonna work.

Otherwise, they just want a plastic. We won't have magnets, they won't have plastic, they won't have planes. I have an idea. I know you have so much time on your hands. So we've got the cards. We've got green cards. I have an idea.

Why don't we make our own rare earth materials and that's going to require an industrial policy so we can compete against China so they don't have anything over us. And then I guess to her credit, and I want to give Laura Ingraham credit for anything, she points out that China actually from whatever this framework is, China outmaneuvered the United States because China basically said in six months, we will have the right to stop sending you in the United States rare earth minerals and magnets and things like that. That's why the United States trade representative and commerce secretary and treasury secretary rushed to China or rushed to cave again to China in London, because American companies were about to run out of their rare earth minerals and they wouldn't

be able to build things. So Ingram's like, so why are you doing an expiration date in six months? Doesn't that mean China can just dangle this over your head? And then Howard Lutnick in his typical snake oil salesman way is like, no, no, no, that's actually a good thing. Here play this clip. The president announced early this morning that the China deal is done, he said. And I know you just got back from London, engaged in two days of negotiating with your

counterparts. The Wall Street Journal and others are reporting that while that framework is in place and that China's supposedly going back to Xi about it, which seems a little odd. But I understand the rare earth ease up on the export of rare earth materials that we desperately need because we don't produce them here. That that has an expiration date, Mr. Secretary. Why is that expiration date there? Doesn't it give them, doesn it give them leverage over us?

You gotta realize, so what happened is they cut their tariffs, we cut our tariffs, and then they started slow rolling these magnets. What these magnets are, they're a teeny little product that goes in every motor, it's like part of the starter. It's a small business for us, but everybody needs it. So when they started slow rolling us, what did we do? We stopped delivering them ethane.

We give them all of their ethane. You know what ethane makes? Plastic. So good luck running an economy without plastic. We stopped sending them plane parts. And 250 of their planes were on the ground, right? Because they need our plane parts, right? Marco Rubio said, I'm not taking your students anymore.

They can just go home. And all these kinds of moves basically equaled the nonsense that they were doing to us. We got together, the president and, you know, president Trump and president Xi, they got on the phone. President Trump took a positive view. He said, we're great friends. Come on, let's just put this negative stuff behind us and let's make the world a better place. And then Howard Lutnick tries to act like the fact that there's 55% tariffs from China into the United States,

which is a 55% tax on Americans is a good thing. The China tariffs are 10%, meaning China's only taxing its people 10%, because why are you taxing your people? And China has found export markets in Europe now and Australia and Canada and elsewhere and the United States has basically been cut out But let's see what Howard Lutnick has to say here play this clip So we said to him I said you want to stop fentanyl? Just stop it the way you did magnets You don't want to stop it. You can pay you 20% so they're staying at 30%

Stop it the way you did Magnet. You don't wanna stop it. You can pay you 20%. So they're staying at 30%. Donald Trump in the first term put 25% on. That's where they are, right? They charge us 10%. So we're in an excellent place, making huge amounts of money,

doing things correctly with China, reducing the trade deficit. And now we're gonna get on to talking to them about doing more trade. Now bring on Lori Chavez-Dreamer. And then she basically threatened, she basically says that the president's gonna have talks with the Federal Reserve Chairman

about dropping interest rates. Okay, the president needs to stay the hell out of that stuff when he doesn't know what he's talking about. Play this clip. Are we not gonna see a drop in interest rates this year? Well, the president has been again focused on how we'll have those conversations with the Fed and the reserve. The Department of Labor doesn't really weigh into that, but we'll usually when we see inflation go down, we're going to see interest rates go down.

So I'm anxious to see the conversations that the president is going to continue to weigh in on because what we want to see is more affordability in our housing market. Then similarly, you had Howard Lutnick kind of make the same threat to the chairman of the Federal Reserve play this clip. It's unbelievable that Jerome Powell is just sitting around waiting.

The president calls him too late. He's just too late, Powell. I mean, why hasn't he cut? I mean, you remember, if he cut interest rates 1% and got Europe cutting like crazy, you realize that saves America $300 billion a year. It's unbelievable how much we would save if he did his job and he cut interest rates. The economy is ready for it. It's easy.

Inflation is low. Come on. He's got to do his job soon. Oh, then bring on Tulsi Gabbard who says, you know, what we're focusing our resources in the intelligence community and the FBI is who is funding these protests? Who are the people? There are ads being put up on Craigslist thousands of dollars a week ago to be involved in riots. There's not a conspiracy that these people will not spread, but they're always telling on themselves.

Like this must be the stuff that they're actually doing. But watch Tulsi Gabbard play this clip. Can you tell us about the orchestration, the financing, and is Gavin either whether he knows it or not actually siding with the cartels here? Whether he knows it or not he is certainly again This is something that the Department of Justice and the FBI is looking into who is funding these protesters We've seen you know the ads put up on Craigslist offering people thousands of dollars a week to go out

and and conduct these violent and dangerous riots in the streets of not only Los Angeles, but we saw earlier in Chicago and New York and other cities across the country. Then by the way, did you see that Tulsi Gabbard posted this bizarre video of herself to spread Russia propaganda the other day? And she was like, she's basically implying

that if we don't help out Russia and put more pressure on Ukraine, there will be nuclear annihilation. Children's skin will peel off their faces. It will be a nuclear winter. I mean, it was the craziest video. I'll just show you a small portion of it. Here, play this clip.

Condemning survivors to agonizing deaths or lifelong suffering. A nuclear winter could follow with smoke and ash completely blocking the sun, plunging the world into darkness and cold, killing crops and starving billions. Acid rain would scar the earth, wiping out entire ecosystems. This isn't some made up science fiction story. This is the reality of what's at stake, what we are facing now. Oh, and then Jesse Waters logic. How does Trump provoke violence if he lives in Washington?

That's what you're going with. How does Trump provoke violence if he lives in Washington? Play this clip. And they can't even get their story straight. All right, first there was no riot, then there was a riot, then it was peaceful, then it was mostly peaceful, then Trump provoked the violence. Now, how does Trump provoke violence if he lives in Washington?

He wasn't out there doing anything. So the National Guard provoked the riots because I didn't see a single National Guardsman melt down a Waymo or loot a store. Not one. Well, there you have it, folks. Very strange stuff. But you see, Gavin Newsom literally broke Fox yesterday. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 5 million subscribers. Thanks for watching. Hit subscribe. We're almost at 5 million. Let's try to get there soon. Can't get enough Midas? Check out the Midas Plus Substack for ad-free articles, We're almost at 5 million. Let's try to get there soon.