The MeidasTouch Podcast - Furious Canada Prepares for War if Trump Invades

Episode Date: December 22, 2025

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas with Meidas Canada head Charlie Angus discuss how Canada is preparing for a possible Word War 3 with Trump and the United States as a hostile invading force.  Keep American farming going by signing up at https://MoinkBox.com/MEIDASTOUCH RIGHT NOW and listeners of this show get FREE Hot Rolls in your first box Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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right? Putin saying, this is our country. historical territorial land and Putin's pretext with Ukraine was to make up, I'm here to do denazification, which everyone's like, what the hell is he talking about? But that's how authoritarian think. Donald Trump is now saying with respect to Venezuela that they stole our land, they stole our oil. He's saying that they're shipping fentanyl and killing Americans when there's no fentanyl coming out of Venezuela. This is the same language that Donald Trump. has used against Canada. 51st state is a threat that we're going to take you over.

And just like the language Donald Trump is using with Venezuela when it comes to Canada, Donald Trump's saying people of Canada are killing the people in the United States by sending over the fentanyl and that this, if you look at this border, these are our lands and this border is just arbitrary and we should be able to take it over. That's the language of war. And I think people in Canada, their military forces, leaders are seeing what Sergei Lavrov is saying. And they know Sergei Lavrov, who's Vladimir Putin's top foreign minister, is out there saying right now, we are already in World War III. That's the

language that Russians are using. We're in World War III right now. And the question is, is where's the United States in this World War III dynamic? At least, you know, we know where Europe stands and Canada stands and Australia stands and the U.S. seems to be taking the side of Putin. So let me just show you. I think this is how the people of Canada see it. The leader of Midas Canada, Charlie Angus, I think he covered this in detail and I want to share with what he just told me. Charlie Angus talks about how Sergei Lavrov in Russia says we're in a World War III posture right now. Play this clip. Sergey Lavrov, Putin's hard man and the guy who is invited into Trump's White House, as a good friend, it seems, is declaring that the Third World War has already begun.

It's a new form of war. It's a war of pressure. And part of that war in Canada is an economic war to break us. This is what Donald Trump has stated his determination, and we aren't breaking. And then Charlie Angus, the leader of Midas, Canada, talks to us about preparedness and military preparedness and how Canada is building this civilian army, how Canada's top general says that Canada is ready for war, how Canada is looking very skeptically right now

at purchasing F-35s from the United States because, for all you know, Donald Trump in the U.S. can try to manipulate the F-35s. And so they're looking more towards Sweden's Gripens, which may not be as good of a plane as the F-35, vibes, but Elise Sweden says they're going to work with Canada to help build this together, and Canada can have some ownership over building the weapons for the future, a future without the U.S.

Here's Charlie Angus talking about the preparedness of the Canadian military right now. Let's play it. Let's talk about preparedness. General Marie Carignan, head of Canadian forces, gave some end-of-year interviews, and she says Canada is ready, ready to go if needed. Now, this woman is serious. Badass. Okay, she was born in a mining town. She's apparently an incredible dancer. She served in the peacekeeping mission. She was in Golan Heights. She was in Bosnia.

She commanded task force Kandahar. She's got a whack of metals, including some from the United States. And General Kerignan was talking about how much things have changed in terms of the threat. She says, you know, we divested air defense systems in 2000 because Canada was fighting a counterinsurgency war and we didn't need it. But she says, now the situation has changed. The air is contested, and we have to get back into the business of air defense. So is that defending our airspace from Putin? Or are we also talking about the threat south of the border? She says that Canada's regular force right now is 65,67, soldiers, and the target is to get to 71,000.

So far recruiting for the last two years has not gone badly. Last year's target was 6,400 new members. They finished at 6,600, and this year's target is 7,600. She was asked about the whole question of DEI. We see how in the United States the Pentagon is flushing pages of famous Americans, the Code Talkers, you know, Jackie Robinson, getting rid of a black head of their armed forces. But General Kerrignaw, she says, listen, in Canada, we value the differences of men, women, and their backgrounds. And in the military, conformity as part of team dynamics can be absolutely deadly.

She says that what she's looking for is to build a larger network of expertise to support the military, and that includes civil service, the emergency management, and building community resilience. I think that that's her way of talking about this Citizens Army and how they can work together with the Canadian military. We're going to get to that in a second. In terms of preparedness, she says we're ready. Who knows? I'm no expert. But Canada does have an enormous amount of experience. We were the front lines in Kandahar, which was the heart of the Taliban.

And nobody gave us anything there. It was full at war from the get-go, and we have a lot of people who had experience there. We've been on the front lines in terms of the Russian threat with training in Latvia and Ukraine. So you can be rest assured that Canadian training. are coming back having also been trained in what 21st century hybrid warfare looks like. And we also have an enormous amount of expertise in places of conflict like Yugoslavia. So we bring a lot to the table in terms of that. You know, I don't want to be talking about this, really, but this is the state of the world

that we're in, is starting to assess where Canada is going to be in times of increasing threat. from Charlie Angus talking about this civilian army, this 300,000 strong civilian army and how the ingenuity of Canada needs to really be tapped into here, play this clip. What we need to be doing is looking at local teams who bring a lot of expertise with them. You know, first aid, IT, radio dispatch,

training people in search and rescue, evacuation, traffic, you know, in case of an emergency to have people trained at the ground level to help do that, that will make things move a lot faster. In terms of reaching out to the civil service, we have people with enormous amount of expertise because if this is run by the HR of the Canadian military, it's going to move as slow as molasses in January and it's not going to happen. Think of what happened during COVID when they were initially going to use the existing programs like EI to get money to people who been forced off work. Certainly my party, the New Democratic Party, were saying this will take

forever. It's way too cumbersome. It's too high bound with the bureaucracy. And over the Easter weekend, Canada's Civil Service created the Serb program that got $2,000 to every person who wasn't able to work and got it out the door quickly. That's what happens when you think outside the box. So that's what we need to be doing here, is thinking outside the box of thinking of this as not simply, you know, boots on the ground and uniforms and marching, but thinking of creativity and using the strengths of Canadians. All right, let's talk some facts here. Four companies control over 80% of the U.S. meat industry, not good. And China now controls the largest portion of U.S. pork, not good. These companies are using really awful tactics, in my opinion, to crush American family

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The same way everyone would be like, it's preposterous. The United States not going to seek to invade Canada. The U.S. isn't going to be doing this. Of course, that come on. What happens after Venezuela? What happens after Colombia? Right? I mean, after Trump's bloodlust, you don't think it's a possibility that he'd be, the language that

he's using, 51st state is, as Canadians recognize it, war language. And that's what infuriates Canadians more than infuriates. So this is an important point that Angus talks about. And he says, look at what happened in Sumi. Look at what happened in Sumi in Ukraine. Here, listen to what he says. Here, play this clip. I want to read to you a section from this new book by Tom Mood.

the dogs of Moripal about the opening days of the Ukraine war. It's one of the reasons I've been so obsessing about the need for us to be thinking of preparedness is because the Ukrainians didn't quite believe that in the 21st century, their next door neighbor would just come across the border with tanks. And so when it happened, they weren't quite prepared. And it was the ordinary citizens of Ukraine who basically put themselves in the past. of the Russian advance that slowed it down and stopped it before it got to Kiev. And the Battle of Sumi is something that's really an important but overlooked moment. He writes, the Battle of Sumi comes the closest to the image of a desperate bedraggled civilian

guerrilla army fighting overwhelming odds. When the Russians marched in, even the Ukrainians expected to be overwhelmed here. Many of the city administration fled, but the ordinary people of Sumi did not. When the Russians attempted to encircle and then bypassed Sumi with a massive armored column, they were met by small teams of defenders who sallied forth and knocked out their logistics. There were only about 50 professional soldiers in Summi with very little in the way of heavy weapons. So light were the forces that the Russians did not even bother to bring air defenses to support their troops here. Yeah, and then they ran into the drones.

But in Sumi, the effort was almost entirely led and self-directed by the citizens themselves. becoming a true people's defense force. There were only a few thousand civilians with rifles, a few dozen anti-tank weapons, and no armored vehicles or heavy weaponry. But by mid-March, the Russians were scared to enter the city. Here's the thing. Canadians understand the mission.

Canadians will do what is necessary. And I am hoping against hope that Lavrov is wrong, that this new global conflict hasn't begun. I'm hoping against hope that Donald Trump will be defeated in the midterms and we will somehow go back to whatever. But I don't expect that. And when I see the situation in Venezuela, where Trump is now threatening the people of Venezuela and he's not,

you know, America has a long history of interfering in Latin America with CIA coups and Guatemala and Chile and other places. But what the language about Venezuela is a total shakedown that he basically says the Venezuelans stole our money and we're here to get it back. This is the kind of language of gangster gunboat diplomacy and we see from the Trump doctrine, he believes he can apply that to Canada.

And we've already seen multiple threats of what we owe America and what we are doing to threaten America. So am I saying that what's happening in Venezuela will happen to Canada? No. But we can't. take anything for granted. So I believe that there's a huge opportunity by building resilience

because it sends a message. It sends a message, don't you think about it now. Don't you think about it ever. We have managed to throw MAGA back this year again and again because they continually underestimate us and we continually stand up and show up. You know, I will end with what Winston Churchill said to Adolf Hitler. You, sir, you do your worst. We will always do our best. Now, in this past week also, we heard from Prime Minister Mark Carney, who talks about the relationship that they're building in Canada with the rest of the world other than the United States. You play this clip. When I go or the Minister of International Trade or Minister of Finance goes and meets with any country in the world, with one exception, any country in the world, they want to do more.

business with Canada. They are desperate to do more business with Canada. And we, yeah, because we have, because we have much of what they want and they respect us. They respect us because we respect the rules of rule of law. We have the right values. We're good partners. And it's just an enormous amount of opportunity. So I am hugely optimistic and I'm optimistic because these opportunities are being created by people like the people in this room and across this great country. A recent press conference was just held with Prime Minister Carney and the Premier of Ontario, Doug Ford. And here's how Doug Ford refers to the position of Ontario relative to Donald Trump whining

about the ad, like they're still whining about the ad, Trump and Pete Hoekstra, who's the United States ambassador to Canada, watch what Doug Ford, the Premier of Ontario. says, here, play this clip. By not backing down, are you putting your own interests ahead of people in the sector? And what sector? I believe you just can't roll. I'm in a different position. I'm not speaking for the prime minister.

I'm speaking for the people of Ontario. We're getting hit the most out of any single province in this entire country. He's attacking our steel industry, attacking our automotive sectors, attacking our manufacturing, our pharmaceutical, our life sciences. I'm not going to sit back and roll over and, you know, not fight back to protect the people and their jobs of Ontario. It's as simple as that. That's my job to protect the people of Ontario.

I'm going to continue fighting to make sure we get a fair deal with the U.S. I can tell you one thing. I talk to God. I'm going down to sign a deal with a governor in New York tomorrow. I can tell you I talk to governors almost every week, almost every single day, a senator or congressperson, or Democrat, even Republicans say they don't agree with the deal, but they're too scared except four of them that cross the Florida vote with the Democrats, I don't know, about three or four weeks ago. So I'm going to, I'm going to fight like I've never fought before to protect and protect the

communities in Ontario, protect their jobs, and protect the people. And then you had the U.S. Ambassador Pete Hoekstra recently whining about the ad. He's still complaining and like cry. This guy's like a cry baby. He's still crying about the Ad, dude, getto grow up. I mean, just the amateurist, the immaturity, the hatred of Canada by the U.S. ambassador to Canada. People in Canada despise this guy. Despise this guy. Here, play this clip.

Why does the, I don't know if it's the White House, Donald Trump, or Americans in general, took such offense to that ad? It's never happened before. Foreign governments do not come into the United States of America. and run political ads during our election campaign season. If they want to do that, they are, as we've said, they are setting precedent. No one has ever tried this before. And it's not, you know, people have said, Pete, why are you upset? It's kind of like, think about it.

Okay, the president mentions an election in Canada. And I think there have been reports that says Canadians weren't happy. about that. Okay? This is taking a comment by a political person, whether it's the president or the prime minister, but then the government making a conscious decision to take taxpayer money significant, $75 million, and say, we're going to run on the world. series. We're going to run out on Fox News. We're going to run it on NFL Sunday football. And the intent is to influence it and divide the Republican Party, a specific political objective. There is also the distinction, though. That was a provincial ad. That was sponsored by the

government of Ontario, not the government of Canada. The level at which the United States is, is engaging in these discussions yeah it was we know that okay but no distinction you know when i was in congress and you'd like to think that everybody that is in your congressional district knows you uh in america it is in my congressional district and it's it's this way for every congressional district you know about 50 percent of our constituents could not name who their congressperson was They don't live and breathe politics each and every day, like those of us who are involved in that business. The, you know, Americans saw an ad that at the bottom of it says, you know, paid for by maybe the, you know, the province of Ontario or whatever. But it's very clear.

This is an ad run by coming from a government institution in Canada. and then also later in that interview and in more recent interviews as well hoaxstra's being well Canada if they don't want to buy our F-35s good luck look look bottom line is that there's a there's a trust factor here and I think you know one of the things that Canada's learning from Ukraine as well is how to build this drone this drone army up and we've reported on this before but focusing on the heck having drones ready to go at the border in case there is a U.S. invasion. No one knows.

I mean, Trump's behavior right now is dangerous. It is that of an authoritarian. It's that of Putin. And so Trump's, and let me ask it to you this way, do you think absent a forceful international pushback? Do you, what do you think Donald Trump would do to Canada? You have any doubt that he would invade Canada? He said that he said as much.

So I think Canada is beginning to take this very much, much more seriously. You tell me what you think. And hat tip to Charlie Angus for reporting on, you know, it's not hyperbolic. I think that this is a strong possibility. I think people need to take this seriously. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million. Thanks for watching.

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