The MeidasTouch Podcast - Furious Canada Strikes Back at Trump Over War Crimes

Episode Date: December 7, 2025

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas and Meidas Canada head Charlie Angus report on Canada’s response to Donald Trump’s war crimes. Order now at https://drinkwillies.com and use code MEIDAS for 20% off of your first order + free shipping on orders over $95 Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast⁠ Legal AF: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af⁠ MissTrial: ⁠https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial⁠ The PoliticsGirl Podcast: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast⁠ Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan⁠ Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen⁠ The Weekend Show: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show⁠ Burn the Boats: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats⁠ Majority 54: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54⁠ Political Beatdown: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown⁠ On Democracy with FP Wellman: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman⁠ Uncovered: ⁠https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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They don't view the United States as an ally. or a partner or a friend anymore and for good reason. And Canada is responding now to Donald Trump's and his regime's war crimes off the coast of Venezuela. We hear from individuals like Charlie Angus of Midas Canada the way Canadians are discussing these despicable war crimes taking place. Charlie Angus, again, who leads Midas Canada, contextualizes it in the history of other war crimes during World War. He talks about how Canada and the United States, of course, have been allies in World War II and World War I and throughout history. And now the perspective of Canada, seeing the United States as this essentially Nazi fascist

regime is something that Charlie Angus and Canadians never could fathom. But that's the reality right now and the dynamic that exists, unfortunately. Charlie Angus from Midas Canada, take it away, sir. These extra judicial killings are very serious. These are war crimes. their crimes against even the United States military code. But what was really concerning was how Hegesith, when he was challenged on this, he put out this imitation cartoon of the Franklin cartoon.

Now, Franklin is a Canadian cartoon character that children love. And Franklin teaches kids how to be nice and how to be good neighbors. And instead, Hegseth turns Franklin into this happy, murderous, killer, killing people who are defenseless. You know, Adam Sewer wrote the book about Trump, that cruelty is the point. And he writes, that once malice is embraced as virtue, it is impossible to contain.

What we're seeing in this age of gangsters is that the crimes that have been committed by military in the past are now being bragged about and celebrated on social, media. And it's about dehumanizing our enemy. And it's about embracing the cruelty and the viciousness. And also laughing at the fact that these are breaches of international law. You know, there was a photograph I saw when I went to the Museum of Terror in Berlin that really struck me, that shocked me. And I thought about it for a long time. And it's about German soldiers, male and female at Auschwitz in 1942, singing and laughing.

And you're seeing this photograph of people who are completely disconnected from the fact that they're running the world's most notorious murder camp. And I thought about that photograph a long time and the dehumanizing nature of the violence that allows people on one hand to hang out and have a good time and on the other hand go in and pull people off the trains and murder them. Daniel Goldhagen in his book on Hitler's willing executioners, his claim was that the reason this was possible was because the Germans had some innate murderous anti-Semitism

was something in the German character. And he wrote about the German police battalions that did the horrific mass shootings in Ukraine and Eastern Europe and took photographs and didn't seem to think it was a big issue. I think Goldhagen's thesis is just wrong and we see it's wrong because it's been proven wrong by subsequent atrocities and nowhere has been proven more than in Israel where we see soldiers of the IDF who come from all manner of

ordinary backgrounds in Gaza doing selfies involved in mass killings, killings of civilians, killings of children. I think one of the most frightening things that really shook me up and it literally made me rethink everything I thought about the world was the murder of that six-year-old girl, Hind Rajab, who was in a car with her family trying to escape the bombing. Her family were murdered in the car. She was left alone. She was on the phone begging people to come and help her. And every time someone from the Red Crescent tried to come and help her,

Israeli sharpshooters killed him. The Euro-Mediterranean Peace Monitor investigated and ruled it a planned execution. the murder of a family and the murder of a child, this kind of dehumanizing violence is becoming the face of the era of gangster threat. We see it with Putin and Ukraine. We see it with Netanyahu and Gaza. And now we're seeing it with the United States under Donald Trump.

Lieutenant Colonel Benny Aharon, his name has been brought forward to the International Criminal Court for the allegations that he ordered, the killing of this young girl and her family. And this is a thing that Hegsseth and the rest of the need to understand. The work of the criminal court goes on. Donald Trump is trying in his deal with Putin, the capitulation agreement he's trying to foster on the world,

is to claim that after this illegal invasion and after all these killings and the stealing of children, that the world will somehow agree to let Putin and the war crimes go on answered, just like he thinks that that's going to happen in Gaza. Sometimes it takes years, sometimes it takes decades, many decades, but the work of the international criminal court must go on, and it must go on in Russia, it must go on in Gaza. And that brings us to Pete Hegzeth and the killing of these civilians. We don't know who they are. We don't know what they did. We don't know if it was a drug bust or not. And what kind of drug bust you just blow people up without even stopping and searching?

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The Pentagon law of war manual is clear on this. Attacking defenseless people, they say, persons who have been rendered unconscious or otherwise incapacitated by wound sickness or shipwreck, such as they are no longer capable of fighting or the combat, meaning they're out of fighting persons who have been incapacitated by wounds sickness or shipwreck are in a helpless state and it would be dishonorable and inhumane to make them the object of attack the intercept has done a study on hegsith who's now trying to blame an admiral for ordering the killings after he was bragging and posting pictures of the cartoon with franklin and the intercept says that hegsus actions could result in the entire chain of command being investigated for war crimes or outright murder. But I want to go back now to Canada because when our foreign affairs minister, Anita Anand, was asked in the early stages of these extrajudicial murders off the coast of Venezuela

if they were a breach of international law, Ms. Anand said that it was really up to the United States to decide if it was a breach of international law. I mean, this is an outrageously dumb thing to say. In what world would you say the perpetrator? the crimes gets to decide whether those crimes are crimes that's not how it works and canada has a long-standing tradition of our work on dealing with international war crimes crimes against civilians crimes against humanity and that work must continue but i want to take you back historically on why canada has played such a role in this on june 27th 1918 there was a hospital ship

the Landovery Castle heading from Halifax to Liverpool as part of the medical convoys that the Canadian Army had for the wounded and the sick and while they were just off the coast of Ireland they were sunk by U-boat 86 as part of the U-boat campaign against the UK and against Canada and on that ship there were many doctors nurses military personnel sailors and what happened next shocked the world because the u-boats saw the survivors in the water they rammed the the life boats and then they machine gunned the survivors killing nurses killing 234 people and Canadians were outraged and Canadians demanded international law step up which hadn't really really stepped up on something like this before on the murder of helpless people at sea and i think

the the killings of the people on the land overy castle set canada on a path that it has never turned away from which is that those with the guns don't get to shoot those without guns on the high seas those who are helpless those who don't have power those who are like little king rajab who's left in a car as bait while the Israeli soldiers killed those who came to save them. These are war crimes. These are the act of monsters, and we are in an age of monsters. And we're in an age of monsters when people like Pete Hegg says, one of the dumbest, most incompetent losers who's ever been appointed to anything in the United States

can put out cartoons bragging about murdering defenseless people on the high seas. It's not just, it's about the war crime, but it's about trying to desensitize us, to make us go along, to think it's okay, and it's not okay. So now we see Trump's backtracking. We see Hegseth's trying to throw the admirals under the bus. We have to stay focused on these. We cannot let our humanity break down like this. We cannot let these gangster criminals like Hegsith and Trump and Putin and Netanyahu and Benny Aharan, who's now, name has been put forward at the International Criminal Court.

There has to be accountability. Otherwise, we go into a very, very, very dark place. So, my friends, we got to keep kicking at the darkness and we got to keep calling it out and we got to keep insisting that people have to do better in the age of these gangster monsters. So Charlie Angus from Midas, Canada, thanks so much. Hit, hit subscribe. Help us to get to $250,000. We want to keep telling these stories.

Thank you. Merci and maguitch.