The MeidasTouch Podcast - Furious Pope Leo Unleashes on Trump Inside USA
Episode Date: June 22, 2025MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Pope Leo IX checkmating Donald Trump by activating Bishops and other church leaders to stand up to Ice agents in the USA and help migrants during their court c...ases. Soul: For 30% off your order, head to https://GetSoul.com and use code MEIDAS. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Uh-oh Donald you pissed off Pope Leo the 14th. You don't want to do that Donald
Pope Leo the 14th is furious at Trump, and he is taking action from
the Vatican to help the migrants in the United States who are being viciously targeted by
the Trump regime, ripped away from their families, treated like trash as ICE agents tackle him
and pummel him on the ground and engage in mass deportation
in the most cruelest form.
Let me tell you what Pope Leo XIV specifically did on Friday, which is International Refugee
Day.
So, Pope Leo XIV appointed a new bishop, someone by the name of Michael Pham. Now, the newly appointed bishop, Bishop Pham,
wrote a letter on June 11th asking fellow men of cloth in the San Diego area throughout the
United States and elsewhere to come and join him on June 20th International Refugee Day.
And there were about 16 other very prominent leaders
in the Catholic Church who joined him. They went to the San Diego courthouses and they were ready
to confront the ICE agents, the DHS agents, who would normally be waiting in the courthouses
to attack the migrants like we've been seeing take place across the United States.
This operation launched by Pope Leo XIV and led in San Diego by Michael Pham was highly
successful and nobody got attacked.
Nobody got captured by ICE.
ICE backed off as a result of this operation led by Pope Leo XIV, who appointed
Michael Pham. Our friend Pablo Manriquez wrote the following,
Videos are now surfacing on social media of ICE agents quietly leaving immigration courts in San
Diego empty-handed after Bishop Michael Pham made good on his promise to escort migrants
to their appointments on World Refugee Day.
So here was the letter that Michael Pham from the Diocese of San Diego wrote to other men
of cloth after being directed to do this by Pope Leo XIV in the Vatican, who's furious at Trump's behavior,
at Trump's treatment of migrants.
Dehumanization is the word that I'm looking for.
So here was the June 11th letter. Let's go through what went down.
Dear fellow priests, deacons, and ministry leaders of parishes,
On the morning of June 20th, which is International
Refugee Day, a group of priests and faith leaders are planning to visit the federal court building
to stand in solidarity with migrants who are making their court appearances. We know that
migrants and refugees find themselves in the difficult predicament of being called to appear, which is what the
government asks of them, and then being given orders for expedited removal from our country.
This group of priests and faith leaders will simply be present during this process as it
has been experienced that the presence of faith leaders makes a difference in how migrants
are treated.
Unfortunately, it will most likely not change the outcome.
Following the court appearances, the faith leaders will have a press conference so that
the clear message is sent that people of faith stand with immigrants and refugees and that
that can be delivered to the broader public.
They will gather at 7 a.m. and conclude by 10 a.m.
If you feel moved to participate, please notify any of the following.
Being president will be a good way for us to give witness and stand with immigrants
on a day on which, across the diocese, we will celebrate a mass at our various parishes
dedicated to our immigrant brothers and sisters.
Gratefully yours, Michael Pham is one of the signatories.
Now CBS 8 in San Diego and others were there and they are reporting that due to Bishop
Michael Pham's presence in the courtroom, in effect, cases of migrants were postponed, nobody was deported, nobody was grabbed, nobody was attacked by ICE agents.
They would not go near the bishop.
Let me share with you what went down as Bishop Michael Pham, auxiliary bishops and priests in the Diocese of San Diego.
Here they are celebrating Mass before joining migrants in federal court.
Bamb was the first bishop in the U.S. appointed by Pope Leo XIV.
Let's show you this clip right here. Now, I want to remind you that San Diego has been a hotbed for ICE activity.
ICE has been trying to rip families apart in San Diego.
ICE has been trying to provoke the community of San Diego.
ICE has showed up militarized, raiding restaurants and factories and trying to attack people
on the streets, going through peaceful communities in San Diego.
Let me show you right here of what went down a few weeks back in the South Park area of
San Diego to remind you why this is a particularly important area that Pope Leo XIV has been
very focused on.
Here, play this clip. Now, here is another video right here of residents in San Diego.
This was a few weeks back as well in early June, basically pushing back on these ICE
agents and these federal military, almost look like a paramilitary group.
Watch what happens when the community confronts them.
Play this clip.
Shame!
Shame!
Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! Shame! the community confronts them. That's right! That's right! Back the fuck up! Back up!
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Now, let me share with you what has typically been going down when the bishops were not
there. What'll normally happen is ICE will send out a letter to people who have court
appearances or they will ask people,
hey, you need to show up to renew your application, or people will just show up to court.
And then maybe someone is, they have to use the restroom or whatever, but then the ICE
agents are hiding in the courthouse.
They're wearing their masks because now in the United States we have Masques stop Oh Allah the KKK Allah Nazi Germany and these ice agents are waiting in bushes
They're waiting in bathroom stalls
They're hiding in communities and they tackle you and they throw you to the ground
They beat you even if you're an American citizen if you look a certain way. We've been seeing that happen I'll show you with an American citizen, if you look a certain way, we've been seeing that happen.
I'll show you with an American citizen in a second.
But here's what went down when ICE agents were waiting outside of a bathroom.
A woman shows up for court.
She's going through her paperwork and the ICE agents wait for her and then arrest her
and then get ready to send her out of the country and separate her from her family.
Here play this clip. Okay, compa, fuerza, okay?
Yeah, so you're just going to go in the bathroom. Cool. Here's the going inside. Now, here's just an example of ICE going after American citizens. This isn't in San Diego, but this happened the other day.
But this is like what they'll do.
They'll go after, they'll try to beat you.
And then if you like speak English and then you show them your ID, what they'll do. They'll go after they'll try to beat you and then if you like speak English
And then you show them your ID then they'll like just walk away
They wear their masks after pummeling you to the ground here watch this clip
He said he's a US citizen
He said he's a US citizen I thought I was fair, man. Why don't you do the same to me? I've been making headteens all day. You don't want to be messing around too,
but you should.
Exactly.
I don't beat you, bro.
No.
Here's how The Times of San Diego reports it.
On World Refugee Day,
masked immigrant agents weren't leaning against the off-white walls
waiting to grab people.
They scattered Friday after seeing a clergy delegation led by Bishop-elect Michael Pham. Ken Stone from the Times of
San Diego, hat tip to you, Ken, for covering this. Eight immigration courts lined the fourth
floor hallway of the downtown Edward Schwartz Federal Building. On the walls, boot prints
of ICE agents, but on World Refugee Day,
masked immigration agents weren't leaning against the off-white walls waiting to grab people.
They scattered Friday after seeing a clergy delegation led by Bishop-elect Michael Pham.
Like the story of Moses and Exodus, the Red Sea parted, said observer Scott Reed on the immigrant-aiding San Diego
organizing project.
Said another observer, we've never seen the hallways cleared out so quickly.
The result?
Nobody was detained as immigration lawyers said it would happen.
Two cases were heard Friday morning by Judge Catherine Kate Holliday Roberts, a man whose
case was continued and a woman whose case
had been administratively closed for 20 years and reopened by the government.
Her case also was continued.
Jesuit priest Scott Santarosa, pastor of Our Lady of Guadalupe Parish in San Diego, brief
camera crews and other media members who weren't allowed into the federal building.
Several reporters entered, including me, but didn't view the court proceedings.
Our presence made a difference, Santa Rosa said, quoting an immigration lawyer saying
their client was given more time to prepare for another hearing.
Any other day, said a local activist, two to four immigrants would be detained by immigration and customs enforcement and
taken away in vans operated by Private Prison Corps Civic.
In fact, at least two white vans were parked on an adjacent street with no license plate,
but padlocks on the side doors.
Bishop Pham himself, a Vietnamese refugee as a child, said ICE agents were standing
there covered with masks as
we walked toward the courtroom.
Eventually, the agents scattered and went away.
No wonder people come in fear.
Pham continued the mission of his predecessor, Cardinal Robert McElroy, also an outspoken
advocate for immigrants, before leaving to be the Archbishop of Washington, D.C.
Pham said a government lawyer struck up a chat in the restroom.
He introduced himself to me, Fahm told reporters.
He feels conflicted with the situation.
He knows his morals and his values."
Goes on to talk about how the Reverend Santarosa said,
"...Mass ICE agents were an intimidating presence despite the fact that federal court
staff were very accommodating.
Immigrants said they came with great fear and trepidation.
The Reverend Manny Del Rio of St. John of Cross and Lemon Grove echoed others.
It was evidence that our presence made a difference.
That was one of the last peaceful times in a long time with no immigrants being detained.
Besides 10 clergy members and the press, at least a dozen activists assembled outside
the building and handed out sheets in English and Spanish titled, Know Your Rights.
All things are possible with God, Santa Rosa told the Times of San Diego.
This is a need that arises.
I think we could conceivably come up with a schedule where some priests could be court witnesses and accompany immigrants.
Very powerful, powerful stuff right there.
And to our international audience who's witnessing the fascism in America as masked agents are all throughout our streets now looking at people who with brown skin or black skin or whatever and tackling them,
pummeling them to the ground, disappearing human beings off the street here in the United States.
There's full-fledged fascism taking place in our country, full-fledged authoritarianism. It's not a
constitutional crisis. We're beyond that. America is ruled by a dictator, an idiotic one too.
I mean, not all idiotic, but a specifically stupid dictator. And we have a Gestapo, we
have a secret police, masked officers attacking communities and going in and conducting raids.
And no wonder tourism to the United States is plummeting. And, you know, obviously you see a furious pope at the
Vatican who's always been someone, Pope Leo XIV, outspoken and very supportive of immigrants taking
decisive action here, which is always appreciated. We appreciate all of our support here at the
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