The MeidasTouch Podcast - George Conway BRUTALLY MOCKS Trump after KAMALA NEWS
Episode Date: July 22, 2024MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas interviews George Conway following the news that VP Kamala Harris is now the presumptive Democratic nominee and Donald Trump is furious. Remember to subscribe to ALL the... MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown Lights On with Jessica Denson: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/lights-on-with-jessica-denson On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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George, I have to ask you at the top, do you think that now that Kamala Harris is top of the ticket,
the contrast that now exists will show that Donald Trump is even more
of a psychopath. Absolutely. I do think that. I think it was most propitious timing. I think
this needed to be done no matter who the Democratic nominee was for the simple reason that
Donald Trump has been getting basically a double, this easy pass double standard on his behavior because we've seen so much of it.
And it's basically been normalized, even though it's completely bizarre.
We almost kind of bet don't bet an eyelash at him talking about sharks and electrocution and Hannibal Lecter.
He's been doing crazy stuff like that for years.
So he has this weird advantage.
And and that's part of the advantage.
The other part of the advantage is that people are afraid to talk about mental health issues of any sort,
lest they give offense or they don't want to stigmatize people.
But, I mean, this is just so different.
I mean, this is the man, you know, the question, this is the question of the mental stability of somebody
who would have control of the second largest nuclear arsenal on the planet.
I mean, you just can't look at it the same way.
You know, as I was hanging out with a buddy who said, you know, the thing about Donald Trump is he's probably the single worst person in the entire country to have that job. He is uniquely the single worst because of the
malignant narcissism and sociopathic behavior. And as we were driving, he said, we were in the
car together and he was like, you see that person, you see that person, they'd be way better presidents
than Donald Trump because they would take people's advice and not behave the way he does.
I thought it was an interesting framework. I think that's absolutely right. I mean, and the way I go through that is,
you know, I'm not a psychiatrist, I'm not a psychologist, I'm not a mental health professional,
I'm not qualified to diagnose people, but I can read and I can observe people.
And if you take the various diagnostic criteria for antisocial personality disorder, which is basically sociopathy, you don't have to say, oh, he meets all of these.
He's a sociopath.
I, Dr. Conway, can declare it.
No, you don't have to do that.
OK, you don't have to pretend you're a doctor.
All you have to do is look at the list and say, are these qualities,
any of them, qualities that you want to see in a president of the United States? And the answer is,
oh, hell no. Any combination of them. And that's exactly the same point that your friend was just
making. You know, one of the things he did is he looked at the DSM-5, which is how mental health
professionals, though, diagnose serious personality disorders.
And you went through each one and you said, check, check, check, check.
He fits literally each and every one of each and every one of these issues.
And it's serious stuff when it comes to making these types of, you know, life or death decisions
over our lives.
So how important was the DSM-5 in your analysis,
and how much are people paying attention to that?
Well, I mean, it's always been important to me.
I mean, partly there's an appeal to me because I'm a lawyer,
and we like to have things like nice lists of things to check off.
But the first time I ever became aware of the DSM
criteria was I read an article in Rolling Stone in 2017 that basically said,
is the explanation for Donald Trump that he has narcissistic personality disorder? And I read that
and I said, oh my goodness, he just checks every box. And so I started doing more reading. It
turns out he's also a sociopath,
which basically makes him a malignant narcissist, which basically makes him
the kind of person who would be a cult leader or a dictator. I mean, these are bad, bad, bad
qualities. And that's exactly, you know, I think that one of the things that has happened over the past several years is we haven't really focused on his bad qualities as a list and in terms of how they fit in with these psychiatric disorders.
He's the worst of the worst.
And all you have to do is once you go through the list of those qualities, you realize he's just somebody you don't want entrusted with any aspect of your life. That number can be as high as 100 million, perhaps even more than 100 million, you know, setting records.
Donald Trump up all night and then into the early hours of the morning, you know, post, post, post, post, post, post, post.
And as I've always said, you know, if anybody behaved like this and just posted on any topic, whether it was, you know, sports or whatever their hobby was, birdwatching, whatever, you'd be like, hey, that's really weird behavior.
But he's up there. But it's weird behavior and it doesn't even make any sense. He's still tweeting about Joe Biden. Say, birdwatching, whatever. You'd be like, hey, that's really weird behavior. But he's up there-
But it's weird behavior and it doesn't even make any sense.
He's still tweeting about Joe Biden.
Say, hey, guy, Biden's gone.
He's not your problem anymore.
And he can't let it go.
This was his post last night.
Who's running our country right now?
It's not Crooked Joe.
He has no idea where he is.
If he can't run for office, he can't run our country.
And the other one, my debate with Crooked Joe Biden,
the worst president in history was slated to broadcast on fake news, ABC,
home of George Slopadopoulos sometime in September. Now that Joe has not surprisingly
quit the race, I think the debate with whomever the radical left Democrats chose should be held
on Fox News rather than the very biased ABC. Thank you, DJT. You think he's afraid now of this debate with Kamala?
Do you think this adds an extra? Yeah, no, I think it adds a great deal of uncertainty.
They had a specific game plan for dealing with Joe Biden. And I think one of the ways that they
tamped him down to some extent was to say, listen, we got this great plan. We got this perfect plan.
Just stick to the plan. And sometimes you can persuade him to behave. I'm not normally, but he can tone it
down for periods of time. That's what happened during, for example, the first impeachment trial.
And I think they had, they had him told like, we've got this plan to deal with Joe Biden.
You don't have to do anything. It's easy. You don't have to go to any of the debates for the
primaries. It's all fine. It's all taken care of. And that's how they calm him down. Now the plan is kaboom. They can't tell him what to
do. They don't, they, he knows they don't know what they are trying to do. And I think he's
panicking. Absolutely. Here's a meme that's been circulating. The mind of a toddler, the Republican
National Convention, you have Donald Trump falling asleep the way you observed him fall asleep all the time during the trial where he was convicted of 34 separate felony counts.
When his son's speaking, he's falling asleep the whole time.
Then you have Hulk Hogan giving one of the kind of prime spots, one of the big speeches at the Republican National Convention is Hulk Hogan ripping off his shirt, George. And he goes,
oh, I'm the hoaxster. And if you don't vote for Trump, I'm coming to get you. And he smiles and
he claps at that. And to me, that photo right there, watching that is kind of the anti-psychopath
pack in a nutshell though, right? Absolutely. It's sad and pathetic. I mean, it is sad and
pathetic. This used to be an actual political party it used to be the party of lincoln it was the grand old party it had some dignity and now
it's just a personality cut cult to a guy with personality disorders it just it's just it's just
such an embarrassment and what what kills me about it is that how many people are just going along
with this i mean how can you not
hang your head in shame after watching that spectacle if you call yourself a republican or
ever have called yourself a republican i don't know um i guess our standards have just dropped
beneath the floor what do you think i mean you know some of these people i mean you you you knew
them before you know and so when when when they do that, I mean, what do you think is behind it?
I just think it's just the whole they've fallen into what psychologists or sociologists would call a malignant normality.
Things that would not have been normal would not have been reasonable, would not have been reasonable, would not have
been acceptable 10 or 15 years ago, they've gotten used to. And that's the corrupting influence of
Donald Trump. Now, that said, I mean, it's as much as we like to blame Trump for things, it's like
there had to be a receptive audience to it. So there's plenty of blame to go around but he you know he he created this
permission structure for people to be their very worst selves and that's what we're that's what
we're seeing and or their most least serious selves and that's what we saw at the republican
national convention let's show everybody the ad that was just released by the anti-psychopath
pack take a look at it let's
press play donald trump has never ever been right in the head the late great hannibal lecter
he's a wonderful man
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We've endorsed
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I immediately went to psychopac.org and this appeals to me.
You know,
we have our whole team here at the Midas touch network from peace and
clipping these things.
And I watch every one of those events and my thing after us,
I'm like,
yes,
they're like,
this isn't even political.
This is just weird and not normal.
Oh,
absolutely.
And you guys have been pointing it out really,
really well for quite a while.
So maybe,
maybe we can wear out a deal where we can borrow some of your stuff and repurpose it.
And we got to get we got to get this is the whole point about the guy. The guy's nuts. So where do we go from that? Where do we go from here? Seems obvious that Vice President Kamala Harris, the presumptive Democratic nominee, the endorsements are all kind of lining up. We got the convention
pretty soon. Where do you think we go from here first? And then kind of as a strategist,
what do you suggest? I mean, I've always thought this election was relatively simple.
2016, Trump won because Hillary became the issue. Somehow they got Trump to read off a teleprompter for a few weeks at the end.
2020, Trump was the incumbent.
He was the issue because of his behavior,
because of Clorox, because of everything.
And what happens again this year
is whoever becomes the issue loses.
And the problem that we were having
over the last three or four weeks
was that Joe Biden was becoming the issue when Donald Trump has to be the issue. And now Donald Trump isn't going to be able to avoid being the issue. I think his campaign has been very wisely trying to keep him under wraps as much as possible, which is hard to do because of his narcissism. And you can't tell him, guys, you're better, you dude, you're better off if
nobody sees you. So what, you know, that's what they did during the primary. And then during the
trial, the trial in New York actually enabled him to stay off the radar screen. But now he's back
on the radar screen. And now people can see him, people can judge him. They saw him Thursday night. He had a good night at the debate.
Now he's the old man in the race. Now, after having raised the issue of cognitive decline,
he's the only one left to that argument applies to. And so he's got a big problem.
And the other thing is, is now that the Democrats have a nominee and are united behind a nominee, this is the time to go right back on offense. This is the way that Trump loses. Trump loses if he is the issue. And the other thing, Trump helps us on that because Trump is a narcissist and he can't help but make himself the issue. He wants to be the issue. He wants to be the center of attention. And that, in the end, I think is what would defeat him. Psychopac.org is the website. Everybody check it out. George Conway, thanks as always,
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