The MeidasTouch Podcast - George Conway TORCHES Trump after TOTAL COLLAPSE

Episode Date: August 11, 2024

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unwell press conference by Donald Trump. Well, I think you just summed it up there. I mean, I think this is the part of the campaign I've been so looking forward to, which is when people actually get to see Donald Trump again. I think it was a great advantage for Trump for essentially the last three and a half years to be off of a lot of people's radar screens. the pandemic and what happened during the pandemic but let's leave that aside they forget his craziness they forget the chaos they forget the reason why he just exhausted the american people and and and so now they're seeing that again and he's much much worse now he's much worse because these people with you know malignant narcissists these narcissistic sociopaths only get worse over time, as history has shown. And he's getting older, and he's obviously suffering cognitive decline. And he's under so much more pressure than he has been over the past few years, because now he realizes he's, he, you know,

he stands convicted of 34 felonies, he stands charged with 54 more. And if he's not elected president, there is going to be nothing that's going to prevent him from going to prison. Maybe he'll get lucky in one of these in one of his appeals. But, you know, he's not going to go four for four. And so he knows he's looking at a prison sentence. It stresses him out. he doesn't know how to combat it he's also suffering narcissistic injury because he he is get he is watching kamala harris get the acclaim and the praise and the applause and the crowds that he can't get and she's basically trolling him just by being a happy warrior and he's miserable so. So, you know, it's not, it's interesting that he's decided to stop campaigning over the next couple of weeks. I think he's done that. He's doing that because I think to protect his own fragile ego, he can't compete with her. So right now he's not going to try. He's going to sit there and sulk and he's going to start pointing fingers at his aides and he's going to start lashing out. And we saw a lot of that yesterday. So talking about that narcissistic injury,

there was one part during the press conference where he was bragging about his crowd size, which he of course lied about at the January 6th insurrection. And he was saying how much bigger his insurrection crowd was than Martin Luther King's crowds were. Let me just show you this moment. And because the anti-psychopath pack goes into the pathology of Donald Trump, I want to get your take right here on what he said. Let's play it. Never see the picture of the crowd. The biggest crowd I've ever spoken. I've spoken to the biggest crowds. Nobody's spoken to crowds bigger than me. If you look at Martin Luther King, when he did his speech, his great speech, and you look at ours, same real estate, same everything, same number of people.

If not, we had more. And they said he had a million people, but I had 25,000 people. But when you look at the exact same picture, and everything's the same because it was the fountains, the whole thing, all the way back from Lincoln to Washington, and you look at it and you look at the picture of his crowd, my crowd, we actually had more people. They said I had 25,000 and he had a million people and I'm okay with it because I liked Dr. Martin Luther King. Yeah. Look, extra accordion hands there, piano, tiny piano fingers. What's your reaction? I'm not even sure what he's talking about there.

Is he really talking about the January 6th Ellipse event because that was not in the same location as the I Have a Dream speech. The I Have a Dream speech was at the Lincoln Memorial, not to get too technical about this, but it was at the Lincoln Memorial and by the pool there. And then the Ellipse speech was, you know, about half a mile or a mile away. And I don't know how you, you know, I mean, obviously his crowd then was too large, but not nearly as large as what Dr. Martin Luther King had that they saw, I really have no idea what he's talking about on any number of levels. I mean, he is just delusional. I mean, he, he said

a lot of other bizarre and delusional things where he's remembering things that didn't occur professing to describe things that didn't occur. For example, he had that crazy story about, I mean, the Republicans are fixated on Kamala Harris's relationship like 30 years ago with the California legislator, Willie Brown. And Trump goes on about being in a near helicopter crash with Willie Brown. And Willie Brown said, never been on a helicopter with him. And then it turns out that, yeah, he was on a helicopter with Jerry Brown, who's a different Brown. They don't look, there you go. They don't look much alike. And Jerry Brown says, yeah, we went on a helicopter, but we didn't crash.

So it's just the stuff that goes on in his brain. You know, he's a pathological liar, but he can't separate in his own mind truth from falsity, from what he wants to be true, what he just wants to say, and things that just randomly pop in his mind. His mind is just an absolute mess. And we saw that yesterday. Couldn't even answer a question. It's just, this man is in no condition to run an ice cream stand, let alone the United States government. You know, as you were telling that helicopter story, it's interesting because there was an incident in the late 1980s, I believe, where someone from the Trump organization died in a helicopter crash. And then Donald Trump lied and said he was supposed to get on that helicopter.

There was actually a book that was written by Wayne Barrett who happened to write, Donald Trump did not hesitate to use that helicopter crash in the late 80s for his personal advantage. He planted stories suggesting that he had almost boarded the chartered copter himself, though he's never ridden to Atlantic City on one. Just an interesting anecdote that he lies about the same types of things in helicopter crashes over and over again, because that pathology I think had,

it's historically been there, but it's getting worse, right George? It absolutely is. And the pathology is his, first of all, he's a sociopath who pathologically lies, but the narcissistic aspect of him is that he engages in self-aggrandizement. That's an example, like I almost was killed and I defied that. And then he's done that in the past. For

example, after 9-11, he said that he had been down at ground zero with the first responders. There's no evidence he was ever down at ground zero in 2001 or 2002 with the first responders who were digging out the rubble. And also at the same time, though, he didn't have any empathy for the people who suffered that day, because he remember that, that video of him on the on the morning of January, I mean, excuse me in the morning of September 11. He they're asking him about what unfolded down there because he owned 40 Wall Street, which was right down the street from the World Trade Center, he said, I now have the biggest building in New York, which wasn't true, by the

way, but that's all he cared about. So he basically, it didn't matter to him that his colleagues died in that helicopter crash in Atlantic City. It was just an opportunity for him to say, oh, look at how I survived. You saw the same thing with the shooting in Pennsylvania. You know, he gets clipped by something. We're not really sure what. And of course, that becomes a big deal. And look at me. I took a bullet for you. And at the same time, he didn't really have much to say about the guy who was killed, the fireman who was killed until basically it was pointed out what you didn't call. You didn't call the man's widow and you didn't

do anything about him and you didn't say anything about him. It's just classic Trump. Everything is about him, about his self-aggrandizement. Nothing is about anyone else. Nothing is about anybody else's suffering or problems. And that's not what we want in an American president. We want somebody who actually cares about something other than himself. I mean, granted, you're always going to have politicians, you know, they're going to be self-centered to a large extent because that's the kind of character you the American people. But at the end of the day, he did the right thing because he understood it wasn't about him. And then he went up to Wilmington yesterday to to say thank you to all of the people who are working. I mean, imagine being in Wilmington, Delaware for that long, who are working hard to get him reelected. And then then then they had to go through this trauma of switching candidates. And he wanted to express his gratitude. Donald Trump would have never done that.

Donald Trump would have blamed them for the for for his own failures. And Donald Trump is I mean, he is just everything you do not want in a public official and everything you do not want in a human being. He is absolutely, he's everything you want, you tell your children not to be and not to do. And he is, he is the, you know, I mean, not that all of us are angels or perfect and not that we don't do selfish or bad things from time to time, but at least we have consciences that keep us, keep us in check and make us feel bad when we don't do what we should do. And he has none of that, in addition to the fact that his brain is just a scrambled mess. George, within 48 hours of the Butler, Pennsylvania incident, Donald Trump started selling assassination edition sneakers.

This is not parody. He sold them. And then he rolled out four or five other additions of this, a boot, a black sneaker. It's the fight, fight, fight edition. He signs 10 and he's selling them for $299. And there were only 5,000 of them available. So trying to make about $1.5 million, like who does that? I mean, could you have them? Yeah, those sneakers will be a big hit at the prison commissary, I'm sure. But it's just crazy. I mean, it is just, and it's sort of interesting because I wrote the forward to a book lately, recently by Joe Connison, a a longtime antagonist of mine. He used to write bad things about me in the 90s when I was working on the Paula Jones case. And we've become good friends.

And I wrote the foreword to his book, which is all about how the Republican Party and the conservative movement, the right generally, has become a giant engine of grift. And that's one of the reasons why it glommed on to Donald Trump, because they could sell him. They could sell him to some people who would buy these this crap. They buy the, the Trump NFTs. They buy these coffee table books of Trump waving at the helicopters or whatever they buy. You know, they, they just, they're just, it's, it's just a weird, weird, sick industry. And Trump is there to profit from it. And he's, he's there to profit from it. He's there to, to, to aggrandize himself from it. And, and that's, you know, that that's, we don't want that in the president. We don't want, we don't want somebody who's just out there to benefit himself. And that's what he is. So yesterday, Donald Trump made about a posts, post, post, like post after post. Within one hour, he posted 27 separate memes like this, a very racist meme where he like imposed Vice President Kamala Harris's face and like darkened it extra black and like

different colors and put it on a beetle and said, are you buying our bullshit? This one where he makes himself into a cowboy and says, you tell him I'm coming and the American people are coming with me. Another one where he puts himself in front of a cross and says, put on the full armor of God. One where he quotes QAnon. I mean, these are reposts by him, but he's posting these things where we go one, we go all, which is the death cult cult slogan yet when you take a look at all of this the new york times headline um was trump reinvents platform in a bid to court voters from texas to tick tock and you know the the normalization of this behavior i got to get your reaction to that before we go i mean it's something I've been yammering about for a long time. I mean, there should have been at some point the front page story about his mental

problems, his mental illnesses and his cognitive decline. I don't know. It's incomprehensible to me that so many parts of the mainstream media just will not talk about this. And I think the most interesting discussion of it is something that I mentioned in the launch video for our political action committee, which is there was a memoir written by a recently retired executive editor of the Washington Post. He had been executive editor for many, many years. He basically ran the newspaper. And in 2019, he began having, the colleagues began trying to impress upon him the need to start talking about Donald Trump's mental state. I mean, he was particularly unhinged, if you recall, in the late summer of 2019. I think

it was in part because he realized the Ukraine scandal was about to hit him. But also he was falling behind in the polls, and he realized that he might not be reelected. And he realized that he was subject to potential criminal liability. And, you know, he started really, really, he had a bad few months of late 2019. And then he got boosted again in 2020 with the impeachment acquittal. But this executive editor of Washington Post wrote about how, okay, Conway wrote this article in The Atlantic, really well written article, he says, about Trump's mental state and people were saying that we should follow up on that. And a former editor urged me to do it, but I decided that that's not for us to do. It's like, this is the same media that talked about Joe Biden's word slips for weeks on end. And they're, you know, that's the same reasoning that they,

the reasoning that they didn't, the reason that they didn't talk about Trump's mental state back then, even though he's slurring his word, he's been slurring his words for years, was basically, well, we're not doctors or we're not experts. Like, well well you're no more an expert in cognitive decline and dementia and other um diseases uh possible uh manifestations of old age than they are of mental health and so it's like you cover that stuff if somebody if the president is ill he has cancer he has a presidential candidate has some to undergo treatment, you get doctors on and you start talking about it so that you can explain to the American people what's going on with this particular public official and in the national press about depression and whether somebody with depression who's treated for it can serve as a United States Senator. But this is a man who has a mental disorder that is 100 times worse than about with depression and a lot more dangerous to the country. Abraham Lincoln actually was he would have been on Prozac, they say today,

if he were alive. But we got to talk about these things. It goes to qualifications. It's not something that it's not some side issue that doesn't matter. This goes to the core of how he behaves, what he's important to him, whether he can process information, whether he can exercise judgment on behalf of the country and to preserve the Constitution and whether or not he places any value in anything that doesn't assuage his ego. George, I'd be remiss if i didn't ask you what's

in the background right there those little dog statutes in the background this these are corgis they are they are porcelain corgis and there are about five of them i've collected like two or three sets of them and and also here is a real corgi. This is a real current corgi down there. You see him? I see him and it brings a smile to my face. And George, I just think people, we want to go to the parks with our dogs and hang with cats and not have people call others childless cat ladies. Like joy is a real thing right now. And the fact that that's being injected back into it, that we can have a realistic, you know, approach to the challenges we face, but actually recognize that, you know, we could unite and do great things for the country. I think

that's catching on. Yeah, I think that's, I mean, that's right. I mean, you know, we can disagree on things like, oh, what's the proper marginal tax rate and whether or not we should spend money on X or Y or not at all. But we're all in this together and we have this system that forces us, at its best, forces us to talk about these things, maybe resolve them imperfectly. It's never going to be perfect. And the government can't fix everything, which is why I became a conservative. I thought that, you know, I thought the liberals in the seventies thought that they could fix everything with the right laws. Now the Trumpers are basically the people who want to enhance the government because they think they can force everyone

to behave the way they want or to do harm to other people and to subjugate them through the use of the government. And that's not the purpose of the government. The purpose of our democratic government and the rule of law is to provide a system whereby we can resolve disputes about how we use public resources and what freedoms we have without, you know, in an amicable, not perfectly amicable, but in a cooperative way that allows us to maximize our well-being. And, you know, whether or not we agree on every issue or disagree, we should agree on that. And that, frankly, should be 90% of the ballgame. That's what we're, that's what we're here for. That's why we stand for freedom, whether we're Democrats or, you know, now Republicans don't really do that, which is shocking to me.

But whether or not we're right or left, we should be standing for freedom and standing for people's ability to live their lives as best they can and to help and to show compassion to others and to help other people in the world, you know, aspire to the same goals. Everybody check out psychopack.org. When George Conway launched it, he put his money where his mouth was and made a big contribution to launch the pack. And everybody, you should support it as well. Psychopack.org. George, thanks for your time. Appreciate that. Thank you. Hit subscribe. We're. George, thanks for your time. Appreciate that. Thank you.

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