The MeidasTouch Podcast - GOP Event INSTANTLY BLOWS UP as SPEAKERS Attack EACH OTHER

Episode Date: December 22, 2025

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Republicans going after each other at a truly deranged Turning Points USA Event in Phoenix, Arizona this weekend. Take advantage of Ridge’s Biggest Sale of ...the Year and GET UP TO 47% Off  by going to https://www.Ridge.com/MEIDAS #Ridgepod Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:04 You had Maga Republicans who were out there screaming at one another, saying that the Republican Party is actually dead. This influencer was attacking that influencer. You had Nikki Minaj as a surprise guest, and she referred to J.D. Vance as an assassin and said that, oh, we've got an assassin, J.D. Vance here. Then everybody was like, you're out of Charlie Vance. Charlie Kirk event and you're calling J.D. Vance and Assassin. Then you had Erica Kirk.
Starting point is 00:01:35 I had this Freudian slip where she referred to somebody as, oh, your grift is just as big as Charlie's grift. I mean gift. I mean grit. And it got even worse from there. You had J.D. Vance give a speech and he's like, we no longer apologize for being white. It's white people. Really?
Starting point is 00:01:57 I mean, what in the world? Can I just show you what went down here? So, you know, here you had at the very beginning. You had Erica Kirk talk about this Freudian slip where she's like, yep, and just like Charlie, you've got all of this grift. Here, play this clip. Despite the devastating loss of Charlie Kirk, my incredible husband at UVU, Caleb has persisted with the same gift. Excuse me, gift, grit. It has been a long day.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Trust me, you're not a grifter, honey. It's all good. Then the special guest from Sunday was Nikki Minaj, who referred to J.D. Vance as an assassin while speaking to Erica Kirk here, play this clip. And you have amazing role models like the assassin. J.D. Vance, our vice president. And when I say that,
Starting point is 00:02:55 hmm. I trust me there's nothing new under the sun that I have not heard so you're fine you know what you did I love you you have to laugh about it truly I have been called every single thing and you know what God is so good you let it roll right off your back and this is what's so beautiful about this moment because if the internet wants to clip it, who cares? I love this woman. She's an amazing woman. She has a soul and a heart for the Lord. And then Nikki Minaj continues by threatening the life of California governor Gavin Newsom. She's at an event with Charlie Kirk's widow.
Starting point is 00:03:51 And she's there and they're all applauding. And Charlie Kirk's widow, Erica Kirk does nothing here. and call it out, threatening. This sounds like threatening the life of California Governor Gavin Newsom. I'll let you listen to it for yourself. Here, play this clip. Mr. Newsome. Dear Newskum.
Starting point is 00:04:16 We don't have a problem cleaning up the scum if we have to. Please tread lightly. That's what I would say to Gabby Pooh. Then you have J.D. Vance saying that, because of us, we don't have to apologize for being white anymore. I just wonder what his wife, Usha, and Usha's family thinks about all of this. And by the way, Vivek Ramoswamy was speaking at this event too. You know, and he was like trying to be like, and we're an inclusive party now.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And then you've got J.D. Vans basically up there doing this white supremacist stuff. Here's what J.D. Vance says play this clip. In the United States of America, you don't have to apologize for being white anymore. Then you have Don Jr. spending his time on the speech, just attacking the Republican Party. He says, the Republican Party doesn't exist anymore. We're now the Maga Party. here play this clip. The rhinos. You see the manufactured attacks on JD, myself, my father, anyone who understands that this isn't
Starting point is 00:05:37 the Republican Party anymore. It's the America First Party. It's the Make America Great Again Party. And we are not going back. And then more from Don Jr. over here saying that, you know, know, diversity's not our strength, and he's like, and again, he's like, the real enemies right now also are the Republicans, the GOP. They're the ones who have turned Minnesota into little Somalia. And like, everything is like racist and hateful from these, all these people do is
Starting point is 00:06:12 just seethe with hate. Here, play this clip. It falls on so many of the weak Republicans who just capitulated to the D.C. swamp. And we're going to put an end to that, too. some of the louded voices even in the republican party demanded we bring in tens of thousands of unvetted afghan refugees for years they turned minnesota into little somalia how's that working out for anyone then you have maga mike johnson his speech was like if we don't win if we don't winning these midterms, Trump's going to get impeached. This is what Mag and Mike had to say, play this clip. Everything, as has been said here, everything is on the line in the midterms of 2026. And we have much more to do. But if we lose the House majority, the radical left,
Starting point is 00:07:08 as you've already heard, is going to impeach President Trump. They're going to create absolute chaos. We cannot let that happen. And then you had this like weird idolizing of Charlie Kirk, like Maga Republican Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna said, you know, when we got to really focus on, when we get back to Congress, when we get back into town, we're going to build a statue of Charlie Kirk in the U.S. Capitol. You know, can we just get health care?
Starting point is 00:07:36 Can you just make things more affordable? Can you give people affordable health care and not rip away their Affordable Care Act subsidies? Can you make housing more affordable? Can you make sure that people can get paid with dignity and afford homes and afford their rent, Charlie Kirk statues? Here, play this clip.
Starting point is 00:07:54 More importantly, I want to record this and send it to him, so I need you guys to get a little vocal. Do you think the Speaker of the House should put a statue of Charlie Kirk of the U.S. Capitol because we've been having issues, getting it done. Then Mag and Mike runs within, and Mike's like, and we're going to do the Charlie Kirk
Starting point is 00:08:10 statue at the Capitol. We're no longer in a battle, no longer in a contrast, just between Republicans and Democrats. We're in a contrast between, two completely different diametrically opposed world views. Charlie stood for that. I knew I'm a long time and yes, Andy Biggs, we're going to work on that statue in the Capitol, okay? Charlie Kirk statute, look, as I've said before, we've condemned political violence. What happened to Charlie Kirk was absolutely horrific. The shooter, by the way, as you know, who's on trial, comes from a Republican
Starting point is 00:08:44 MAGA family. It wasn't like a leftist liberal person at all. It was like these people come from maga families. They're gun totin, gun, you know, God fear, you know, they're like gun people who talk about, you know, their love of Mormon, Mormons with guns, whatever it was over there. It was like a religious family, you know, and this is not at all what Mormonism teaches. I want to be very clear about it. It's the religious family that was, whatever. And this is what, and this is how they attack, you know, leftist liberals, so ridiculous. By the way, they then have a tent area at this event that recreates where Charlie Kirk was assassinated. Here, play this clue. And you can see from behind me this is a recreation of the tent where Charlie Kirk lost his life
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Starting point is 00:10:46 After the purchase, they'll ask where you heard about them. Please support our show and let them know Midas Touch sent you. Then you had, you know, different people attacking each other. So you had Steve Bannon saying that Ben Shapiro is a cancer. Play this clip. Shapiro is like a cancer and that cancer spreads. It's a cancer and it metastasizes. He tried to take over Breitbart and I ran him out of there.
Starting point is 00:11:17 He tried to take over David Horowitz, who was his mentor? Don't ask me, ask the guys associate with David Horowitz, what he did there. He tried to take that over. And mark my word, he will make a move on turning point because he's always been envious of Charlie Kirk. You had Ben Shapiro attacking Candice Owens and Steve Bannon and Tucker Carlson and saying that they spread conspiracies and that they're charlatans and that the MAGA movement shouldn't trust them. Play this clip. The conservative movement is also in danger from charlatans who claim to speak in the
Starting point is 00:11:56 name of principle, but actually traffic in conspiracism and dishonesty, who offer nothing but bile and despair, who seek to undermine fundamental principles of conservatism by championing enervation and grievance. These people are frauds, and they are grifters, and they do not deserve your time. and they are something worse than that, a danger to the only movement capable of stopping the left from wrecking the country wholesale. Then you have Candice Owens responding right after Ben Shapiro's speech,
Starting point is 00:12:26 and she says, truly Ben Shapiro, I don't even want to read what she says. Just I'll let you listen to what she says, play this clip. I'm here to let you know that I'm done with it. I am done with it. This one is so fully off of the mother-effing plantation, truly Ben Shapiro, fuck you and the midget horse that you wrote in on. And then Ben Shapiro says that anybody who's out there and denies what the regime is saying about the Epstein files, if you're denying what cash, if you believe that Cash Patel is lying and Dan Bojino was lying
Starting point is 00:13:01 and Trump and Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche, and there's something wrong with you. What's, what are you saying Shapiro here, play this clip. They are seeding distrust in the world around you, and they are, enervating you in the process. So, for example, if many speakers, including Tucker Carlson and others, get on stage here at TPUSA, and claim, without proper evidence, that Jeffrey Epstein was running a Mossad rape ring being covered up by the Trump administration, they are not actually uncovering a conspiracy or effectuating a solution. They are claiming a special provenance to information they won't let you see, which builds their power and leaves you with none.
Starting point is 00:13:38 They are also implicating in their speculation actual human beings, good human beings, like Cash Patel, and Dan Bongino, and Pam Bondi, and yes, the President of the United States, even if they're too cowardly to say President Trump's name. And that means you won't trust those good people in the future. You haven't gotten smarter, you've just been manipulated. When forced to demonstrate their evidence, these same people will often refuse to provide it. They'll claim ignorance.
Starting point is 00:14:04 They'll pretend they're outside the system. and they don't have access to actual information. You know, they're just asking questions. But many of these same people have direct pipelines to informational sources. So, for example, if Tucker wants answers to his questions about, say, Jeffrey Epstein, he could call the vice president of the United States. He's quite close with him. But he won't because that might undermine the empty speculation.
Starting point is 00:14:27 More from J.D. Vance, where J.D. Vance says that the only thing that our nation is truly anchored in is being a Christian nation. that's the only thing our nation is anchored in J.D. Vance. First off, who are you, J.D. Vance. You've had three different names. Okay, J.D. Vance is your third identity. You grew up and said you were gay. And then you said that actually you got conversion therapy or you're not gay anymore or that you thought you were gay and it was mistaken. And then you said that you were, you know, this guy from Appalachia and you were representing just the hard workers of Appalachia. And you were an anti-Trumper and you hated Trump. You said Trump's like Hitler. That was, you know, you compared
Starting point is 00:15:09 him to that. And then you're a pro-Trumper. Then you've changed your name and identity along the way. You said you were gay now. You're anti-gay. You know, you said you afford diversity. Now you hate diversity. Just such a phony here. Play this clip. More than any time, I can recount, people are talking about American identity and figuring out what it is that unites us. But I want to say something here. The only thing that is truly, served as an anchor of the United States of America is that we have been. And by the grace of God, we always will be a Christian nation. Then J.D. Vance refers to Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett as her street having a quote, street girl persona, just like obvious, heinous racism.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Street girl persona? What the hell are you talking about? These are such vile people here play this clip. And Jasmine Crockett, oh, Jasmine Crockett, the record speaks for itself. She wants to be a senator, though her street girl persona is about as real as her nails. Then J.D. Vance's rally calls. to the audience was, do we all want faster deportations? Anyway, here play this clip. Do you want faster deportations?
Starting point is 00:16:44 So go to ice.gov slash join because we're building an army of patriots and we need good people who care about the country to help us secure the border and do it even faster. Nikki Minaj here, and Nikki Minaj is like, you know, one of the important things that we should realize as black women is, why are we making white women with blonde hair and blue eyes feel bad? Why? Why should we make the blonde hair, blue eyes ladies feel bad? If we love ourselves, what do you even talk? I don't even understand what do you mean? Who's making blonde hair, blue eyes people feel bad? What are you talking about? Play this clip. Why would we now need to make other people downplay their beauty so that we can feel, no, that's not how it works.
Starting point is 00:17:42 I don't need someone with blonde hair and blue eyes to downplay their beauty because I know my beauty. Do you understand? And then Donald Trump couldn't be bothered to even be at this event. So Don Jr. had them like on speakerphone. And this is what an adult Donald Trump sounded like play this clip. Oh, I want to be with you, but I'll be with you soon. And I just want to say that nobody did more for me than Charlie, and there's nobody better than Erica, and you are the greatest people in Earth. We won in a landslide, and we're going to continue to do it.
Starting point is 00:18:19 And I just want to thank everybody you got out there, and they voted, and they trust doorbells. And I just want to thank you all, and I hope my son's doing a good job representing me. Otherwise, I have to say you fired, Don, you're fired. And then Nikki Minaj finished her, whatever you even want to call this, by saying, my message to young men is, don't be a new scum, don't be a new scum, be like the dashing. She like professed her love for Donald Trump. Here, play this clip. People with heart and soul.
Starting point is 00:18:52 And they make me proud of them. our vice president he makes me well i i love both of them but they're they're both powerful men smart strong all of that just i want to mention as well that at this turning point event you had the department of homeland security they were advertising uh job recruitment there so you have all of that kind of radicalization that you saw, right? And then as they get the people to get all fired up and say, this is a white nation and all these things, then the Department of Homeland Security is there.
Starting point is 00:19:37 And they go, DHS is at turning point in USA's Amfest. We're looking for American patriots willing to defend the homeland and honor the vision of America Charlie Kirk fought for. Swing by our tables to learn more than as Seth Kotler says. Nothing to see here. Just a right-wing hyper-nationalist government going to their party's youth events.
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