The MeidasTouch Podcast - Gov. Andy Beshear on Winning as a Dem in a Red State

Episode Date: March 18, 2025

MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas interviews Kentucky Democratic Governor Andy Beshear who shows how a Democrat can successfully lead and stand up to Trump in a red state by not sacrificing his values and always fighting for the people. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm joined by Governor Andy Beshear of the Commonwealth of Kentucky. Governor, welcome. Oh, thanks for having me. Very excited to be here. Let's start with the news of the day. Donald Trump announcing yesterday he's calling April 2nd, the day after April Fool's, Liberation Day, where he says he's imposing more tariffs on the country and he says that's going to make everybody super rich. Let me show this to you. And then let me get your reaction from the Commonwealth of Kentucky. Let's play it.

April 2nd is liberation day for our country because we're going to finally be taking in money. We're already doing it. A lot of money. As you know, we put down some early tariffs on people and countries that were not treating us well. Governor, I know the Commonwealth of Kentucky has been hit pretty hard by these tariffs. What do you make of that statement?

And is that how the people in the Commonwealth are feeling, liberation? Well, first, April 2nd is actually the day after my wife and my anniversary because we got married on April Fool's Day. I'm told that means I can forget it once for a couple of hours before I fix it. But in seriousness, this is the Trump tax day or the super inflation day. Tariffs, especially on Canada, lead to increases in the price of gas.

How much they lead to that increase is the Trump tax. You're paying it solely because of the president. Tariffs on places like Mexico increase the price of groceries, which are already too high. The extra amount you pay is the Trump tax. The tariff on lumber that's out there is gonna increase the price of new homes that are already so tough for that couple trying to buy their first home.

That increase in price is the Trump tax. And I don't say that because I'm a democratic governor and he's a Republican president. I say it because it's solely his fault. Every economist is saying, don't do it. It's slowing down our economy. It could lead us into a recession. You inherited an economy that was growing more

than most in the world and you're tanking it. You inherited an economy that was growing more than most in the world, and you're tanking it. You're wrecking it. And people in my state are going to pay more than most because our number one export target is Canada. And so whether it's Kentucky bourbon or our aerospace exports, we get hit and we get hit hard. Also, I think it's one in three people who live in Kentucky are on Medicaid, and that's being hit pretty hard as well. What's going on there with the drastic cuts that Doge and Trump and Musk are doing to Medicaid and just shutting down essential government services? Medicaid cuts would be devastating for Kentucky, but really all of rural America.

So Medicaid covers the people that we love the most, our parents and our kids. Half of Kentucky's kids are covered by Medicaid. Seventy percent of our long term care costs for our seniors are covered by Medicaid. So what happens when you cut Medicaid? Kids see the doctor less. Our parents and grandparents aren't with us as long, don't get the same level of care. But Medicaid and expanded Medicaid are critical to rural health care. If they go through with these cuts, virtually every rural hospital will close. That's typically the second largest

employer behind the public school in so many of these rural communities. And so think about it from the job loss, but think about it from this way. It's not just those on Medicaid. It's everybody else who is going to see the doctor in their community when their rural hospital closes has to drive two hours to a bigger city to see the same doctor who had to move because they lost their job.

This will be devastating, devastating across the country, and it'll make a country that needs to get more healthy, less healthy. It's not a secret that the Commonwealth of Kentucky is generally considered to be a red state. You are a Democratic governor in what would otherwise be called a ruby red state. You won your election back in 2023. You got about 53% of the vote. In 2024, Trump won the state over Kamala Harris by like 30 points. So you won the state and then he beat Kamala by 30 points in the same state where you're a Democratic. What do you think the secret is here? Because there seems to be a roadmap there. You're doing something right to be able to win in

Kentucky. So what do you do it? That's kind. I think it's three things. It's focus on the core concerns that Americans wake up with in the morning. It's talking to people like they're real people, not using all the sanitized language that's been out there. And third is sharing your why. So if you start with focusing on people's everyday worries, when most people wake up in the morning, they're not thinking about politics. They're thinking about their job and whether they make enough to support their family. They're thinking about their next doctor's appointment for themselves or their parents or their kids. They're thinking about the roads and bridges they drive every day. They're thinking

about the public school they drop their kids off at, and they're thinking about how safe they feel in their community. If you don't feel secure in all of those areas, it's really hard to reach another issue or cause no matter how much you care about it, because you're worried about your family. So for me, listen, I always stand up for my beliefs. I vetoed a lot of nasty discriminatory bills, but I'm always out there trying to create that next job, trying to make healthcare more accessible. When we built a road in Eastern Kentucky, it cut down the commute for some families by 20 minutes both

ways. People underestimate the impact on somebody's lives, 40 more minutes with your family. And so it's making sure that 80% of what I or what the Democratic Party should be talking about should be those core concerns. But how you talk about them is important too. I mean, we've gotten to a point where we use language that doesn't mean anything. We use the term substance use disorder instead of addiction. Well, the folks I know that have gone through addiction, they call it addiction or food insecurity

when people are going hungry. It makes us sound like professors as opposed to talking to people as people. And then the words lose their power and their meaning. But the last piece may be the most important. And that's, I think we as leaders need to explain our authentic why. Why we make decisions, why we do these jobs with everything you got to put up with, why we put our families through it.

And for me, it's my faith. And so, for instance, when I vetoed the nastiest anti-LGBTQ plus bill during my election year in Kentucky, you know, I explained it, why I did it. And that's that my faith teaches me that all children are children of God. And I wanted those children who are being hated on by their General Assembly to know their governor cares for them and loves them. And my faith tells me that that's my job to do, to stand up for them. And so I'll never forget, I think the next day, a guy walks up to me and I thought, oh, you know, what's coming now? And he said, Andy, I don't know if I agree with you but I know you were doing what you think is right and so if we can explain our our why we can create hopefully the grace in the

space to have some disagreements that are out there but people still understand what you're doing each and every day and how you're going to make their life better. I just show everybody a video that you posted in the past 24 hours where you say discrimination holds our commonwealth and our country back. Put in my Kentucky accent. It just ain't right. Let me show you this video. And then I got a question. Let me play it right now. Kentucky and the rest of the United States cannot possibly reach its full potential unless our people feel supported to be themselves. Discrimination against our LGBTQ plus community is unacceptable. It holds us back. And in my Kentucky accent, it ain't right. Now, if a Democratic governor in Kentucky can do that, what are Democrats afraid about?

And the rest of the, it drives me crazy. You're in Kentucky and you're saying, look, I'm not going to let people be bullied. I'm not, I'm not okay. My faith makes me not okay with marginalized people just getting punched down. Yet it seems that Democrats are living in right wing frameworks and echo chambers and feeling, you know what, if I want to win an election, I got to I guess I got to kind of be like that. I guess I got to kind of, you know, you know, grow out and punch down and bully. And you're saying I'm in Kentucky. And you know what?

The people in Kentucky like people who stand up for what they believe in and fight for them. Right. What, the people in Kentucky like people who stand up for what they believe in and fight for them, right? Well, bullying is always wrong and standing up for people is always right. Hate's always wrong and love's always right. Judging people is always wrong and accepting them is always right. But I think what many Democrats are doing is misreading the last election. They're seeing that last ad that was played and thinking that the last movable voters voted on that anti-trans issue. I don't think that they did. I think what Donald Trump convinced them is that his opponent was distracted by other

issues while he was focused on prices and the economy. And so this isn't an either or. As a Democrat, stand up for what you believe in. Stand up for protecting people. But at the same time, the next day, be out there opening that new factory. Be in your community, cutting the ribbon on the new clinic where people are going to be able to see a doctor that are right there. Be out there making sure that public safety is improving for everybody. You know, we've got to show people that you can stand up for your principles while at the same time being there every single day for every working family, regardless of their politics. We have to do both and understand that this is not an either or. You know, some of this stuff I feel like,

you know, is a little bit of a layup too. I mean, as Americans' pensions are being destroyed, as 401Ks in the gutter, what was Donald Trump posting this weekend? I just won the golf championship at the Trump International Golf Club. Such a great honor. The awards dinner is tonight at the club. I want to thank the

wonderful golf staff and all of the many fantastic golfers that participated in the even. He doesn't even spell event right. Such fun. And he's saying such fun as Americans were suffering, by the way, as there were horrific storms ravaging the Midwest with dozens of people dead. He's saying having fun. I mean, what's your closing message right now? You know, it's your first time on the Midas Touch Network, just to the country in general. I know a lot of people know who you are, but, you know, there may be some people on this network seeing you for the first time. What's your message generally about where we're at right now as a country and what you're looking to do? Well, first, congratulations to

y'all on all this success and for being out there speaking truth and making sure people get real information. For me, I think our country is right now at a test of our humanity and a test of our empathy. The idea that tens of thousands of Americans are getting laid off from civil service, many of them veterans trying to continue their service, and Donald Trump and Elon Musk are lying to them, saying it was because of their performance. You know, you can think that the government's too big,

but have the humanity and the empathy to be concerned about these families, many of which have young kids. Have the humanity and the empathy to be concerned about these families, many of which have young kids. Have the humanity and the empathy to say it's wrong to lie to people about why they're losing their job. You know, I think that we've got to make sure as a country that we as leaders are setting the right example, while at the same time we are pushing back. What's happening through this president and out of Washington, D.C. is wrong.

It is wrong in so many different ways. And it sets such a bad example for our kids and for the people of America. But I'm convinced that we as Americans are better than this. And if we are reminded of our humanity and who we are, that we can rise above this. See, I see it after every natural disaster that hits my state. We've been hit by 13 federally declared disasters since I became governor. And what do you see? You see people pulling up into each other's driveways, introducing themselves for the first

time and saying, how can I help? You see somebody sitting on their neighbor's porch while the waters rise because their neighbor doesn't want to leave until the neighbor's ready and then carrying them out. Now, we may have folks out there that thought that Donald Trump was going to be focused on prices. They're seeing right now he's focused on anything but. We deserve a president and we deserve a government that always puts our people first and recognizes that those basic needs shouldn't be partisan. So just imagine a federal administration that every day is trying to create more jobs

for Democrats, Republicans, and independents, trying to make healthcare more affordable for every American, trying to have safe roads and bridges for every state and everyone who's out there that believes in public education instead of trying to have safe roads and bridges for every state and everyone who's out there that believes in public education instead of trying to tear it down and wants to improve public safety in every single community. Now, the answer to where we go is something that won't just win elections, but it's good for all Americans and hopefully can help us find some common ground. So I know we're going through a tough time, but I certainly haven't lost my hope. And I'm in this

fight because I refuse to leave a broken country to my kids. They deserve to have a strong, solid America that's governed by the rule of law. And I'm going to make sure I do everything I can so they get that country. Well, you pump me up for the day. You're making me feel good right now. Governor Andy Beshear from the Commonwealth of Kentucky. Thanks so much for joining us on the Midas Touch Network. We hope you come back. I'd be honored to. Thank you all so much for having me. Everybody hit subscribe. Let's get to 5 million subscribers. Thanks for watching. Can't get enough Midas? Check out the Midas Plus sub stack for ad-free articles, reports, podcasts,

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